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Monday, March 16, 2015

TNT CHAT UPDATE & NEWS, 16 MARCH

TNT:

Rrrr: RV Groundhog Day starts out with the exact same line. “We weren’t supposed to be here today” and “Let’s go East to West”… This Journey been so long as I repeat the same day, but I learned how to ice sculpt and the piano I can now play… I saved many a life… tried to help those in strife. My soul’s grown so much in waiting for that “Next Day”. Me thinks it was planned, from above, just this way… But.. Now it’s THE Next Day, and it’s our time to be paid!

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SassyD: Zim meets IMF targets -- March 11, 2015 --

https://www.newsday.co.zw/2015/03/11/zim-meets-imf-targets/

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DC  [via Adept1 on the Mon, TNT CC]

We’re all a little frustrated it didn’t come out this weekend. They have started to pay people out in areas of Iraq, in a planned way.

We are all taken aback by how methodical and slow they are doing this in Iraq.

They have started paying contractors owed money by the country and by provinces...Some everyday citizens have also been paid... Tension is rising, and part of the country is still 1166, some is at $3.91, and they wonder what the heck is going on.

 I am being told every eight hours that they are getting their act together and preparing for rolling it out to everyone in the next few days...it’s being actively managed by the CBI and the Finance Ministry. That is good.

The US and the rest of the world are in lockdown, in ‘hurry up and wait’ mode.   Bankers have been told strictly not to talk to people like us;  they don’t want their employees talking about their process.

Several times they have been flashed that this is ready and then it hasn’t gone through – on all levels, from bank executives and wealth managers down to the tellers.

I know we are all frustrated that it continues to inch ahead, but  the RV process has actually begun. Everyone is just waiting.

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BlackeyedP:  My Banker Story Continues .... Just want to encourage you further.

Ok, TNT Folks - here is a little more encouragement.  It really does help to have someone on the inside.

My Banker and I have been txting each other back in forth over the past few days.  So today - after the call - I sat down after I sent out notes and call link to my group - to contact him.  Instead of txting - I decided to call - since it was quicker.

First thing he said - "What is the latest?" I updated him as to the details on the call.  I told him about Iraq's situation at the moment and like DC told us - US's situation as well.

Well, he was interested to hear about Iraq's situation at the moment but what was most encouraging - what DC said about US - he already knew and confirmed that to me.  He said he had been checking CBI regularly.  He said he would keep checking and if he heard anything - he would let me know.

Then we discussed the subject of many of the pm's I gotten after after my last three posts.  He trying to work a way to help everyone.

That is all I can say.

Please trust Tony and DC - they are telling you the truth - I promise!

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The end of the periodic consultations to Iraq with the International Monetary Fund

16/03/2015 15:40:00

Yesterday ended March 15, 2015, in Amman periodic consultations to experts of the International Monetary Fund IMF with the Iraqi government representatives and agree on a number of recommendations on improving the performance and growth of the Iraqi economy.

Participated in these consultations, which lasted several days, Minister of Finance and Minister of Oil and the Governor of the Central Bank and representatives from the ministries of trade, electricity, education and BSA.
During the 14-15 of March talks to discuss the challenges faced by the economy and the law and the 2015 budget and fiscal policy and reduce costs and avoid any unnecessary expenses and to address the effects of financing from the banking system and the central bank.

And recommended that the final statement of the Fund need to take government action to increase state revenues from taxes and tax collection and improve the management of customs and tax, as the Fund has recommended a number of reforms in the field of expenses in cash flow management and better control of the implementation reports, financial situation and better management of debt and close coordination between the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank and government banks .

The IMF experts are expected to achieve a positive gross domestic product growth rate of 1.2% in 2015.

Participated in these consultations, experts and the Ministry of Finance and Accounting of the budget and the Iraqi Fund for Development and Foreign Economic circles specialists and experts from the Ministry of Oil and the Central Bank and the Office of Financial Supervision departments officials.

It is worth mentioning that these consultations precede the annual international ministerial meetings (Conference spring) to the Member States in the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank in Washington in mid-April 2015.
PUKmedia




http://pukmedia.com/AR_Direje.aspx?Jimare=63558#

BLACKEYEDP POST FROM TNT, 16 MARCH

Ok, TNT Folks - here is a little more encouragement.  It really does help to have someone on the inside.  My Banker and I have been txting each other back in forth over the past few days.  So today - after the call - I sat down after I sent out notes and call link to my group - to contact him.  Instead of txting - I decided to call - since it was quicker.  First thing he said - "What is the latest?" I updated him as to the details on the call.  I told him about Iraq's situation at the moment and like DC told us - US's situation as well.  Well, he was interested to hear about Iraq's situation at the moment but what was most encouraging - what DC said about US - he already knew and confirmed that to me.  He said he had been checking CBI regularly.  He said he would keep checking and if he heard anything - he would let me know.


Then we discussed the subject of many of the pm's I gotten after after my last three posts.  He trying to work a way to help everyone.  That is all I can say.  Please trust Tony and DC - they are telling you the truth - I promise!!


BlackeyedP

SUNNY POST FROM TNT: TONY'S CLIFF NOTES, 16 MARCH

Highlights of Tony's CC.  Updated as call progresses.  Everyone of your comments is appreciated.  I read them all - Sunny

Tony:  It could happen in a day or two.  We know it was scheduled for Saturday night.  Having Parliament meetings, banking laws passed, budget passed and paying out of it and loaded the cards. 

DC:  It was prepared to go this weekend and at last minute said "No," We want to roll out the provinces."  To be perfectly blunt, I think this is an any minute time frame. 

CURRENT WINDOW:  DC:  RV process has started and people are getting paid in Iraq.  Their main decision is when to release this to the rest of the world. . .They are saying it could go down anytime. 

 We are in the middle of the RV process. It has not hit our shores yet. 

. . . the fact that everyone was setup through out the world for it go go down Sat. night and Fri. night and Abadhi and Shabibi got together saying they wanted to keep pushing the issues. They have criteria they want, but keep changing the criteria.  

Tony:  We know the exact time it was to go on Friday . . . on Saturday.  Can't say some things.  We know that all the banks connected internationally a week ago Sunday, with the Swift codes being issued.  That means the system is free-flowing.  We know people have sent and received international funds.  The system has already been approved, and we are in the middle of the RV process.                It hasn’t hit our shores yet.  

IRAQ:  Everybody on lockdown

Exchanging is methodical, measured albeit slow.  They have started paying in unoccupied areas of north and south Iraq, in Basra and Kirkuk and southern parts where the pipelines are and will bring it into Baghdad from the outside regions. Contractors and provincial governments, past debts, pensioners were paid.  Some everyday citizens in regions are being paid.   Baghdad will be the last area to exchange, be paid.
This is confusing to everyone because contractors getting paid in one area when the job maybe in an area not covered by  the exchange plan yet.

CBI and Finance ministry is administering the exchanging within Iraq.  Rate $3.91 is rate in some areas.  Some parts of the country on $3.66 and some still on 1166.  DC: CBI driving this bus. . . Dr. Shabibi will be pushing the button assisted by Dr. Abadhi.
Parliament is scheduled to meet this week and refine export with Turkish pipelines and who to do business with in the old administration and work on reconstruction in Bagdadi and Tikrit.  Nothing in this that will hold up the RI or  laws that need to be passed.
Celebrations planned for Wednesday with announcement to be jointly around RI and Tikrit. DC: The average Iraq citizen is mad about this process so they trying to keep it calm and telling them it's about Tikrit 
Frustration level running high.  Very confusing situation.  Some citizens paid, some not.  Saying ER completed and done when in some areas it is not.  Rates still different in different areas.  The average citizen does not care about banking laws and bankers.  They just want out of their horrible situation. DC:  (They) Want results and not a lot of talk. Tension is very high
ISIL:  Iraq does not have to be totally free of ISIL to have the RI/RV.  There are pockets of resistance still in Tikrit.  Lot of ISIL fighters are leaving, as they're relatives are getting paid and they cannot see a future with ISIL.  It is a factor in the RV/RI but not a driving function.
INTERNATIONAL:  The whole world is still waiting.  Banks, agencies, governments all in alert mode.

IMF - no deadline for Iraq where IMF would come in and do it.  Also because Iraq is in the process.
Rates: In Iraq being rate at some banks and used to pay citizens is $3.91.
UNITED STATES:  Homeland Security, agencies sitting and waiting.  Getting excited.

Banks:  on lock down from executives to tellers. Ready for people to make appointments. Banks have received multiple timelines.  Banks can see International rate at some locations, not system wide.  Banks had option to do what they wanted this weekend and processed some people.
MCA - Multi-Currency Accounts:  fluctuate rapidly through the day.  Can you get a hold of your bank in time to take advantage of where the rate is?
App’s to monitor stocks, currencies, etc.:  Yahoo finance is free.  Brokerage firms offer their own.  E-Trade and Ameritrade, Charles Schwab.  Most trading platforms offer app's as a service with accounts.  

TNT Post-RI Events:  Vegas is planned to be a 4 day event and other smaller events will be 1 day.  Tony said we will not be talking about Dinar.  That event will be over.  It's just an opportunity to get together and celebrate and hear what the banks can do for you/us.
Memorable Comments: 

DC: Oftentimes, Tony and myself are actually just a shoulder to cry on. I would say most of intelligence is therapy. . . you just sit their and listen. We hear different sides of the story.

DC - I assure you Dr. Abadi doesn't give a rat’s ass what is going on in Atlanta, Georgia or elsewhere in the states.

DC: To be perfectly blunt, I think this is an any minute time frame. They have to solve this problem pretty quickly. They are jacking up the entire, darn country.

SUMMARY:  CLOSING STATEMENTS:

DC:  Know your frustrated.  We are inching ahead. . . the RV process has actually begun. . . waiting for the cross over point where it's impeding business, process and commerce.   They are doing it methodically. Not doing it to hurt you or be jerks.  Moving it forward. . . my understand they are having meetings 2-3 a day and assessing, judging the entir process. . .Could mean tomorrow morning, today, Wednesday or Thursday.  Day to day process.. .  throughout the world everybody ready.  Implementation plan is 24 hours.  Could happen as easily at 4 pm as 2 am. 

TONY:  Not looking at the clock anymore.

PAM:  Get vetted professionals, established, in business and cater to customers you are going to be.  If you’re a billionaire you need Oprah and Bill Gates professionals.  May take a while to be introduced to the.  You have plenty of time.  We are here.  This has been worth the wait .  Worth waiting another day or two.  Stay in it.  Don’t give up.

RAY:  Who would want to give up now, after this call.  This is it. Don't . . . plan on going backwards. Stay calm. Enjoy marvelous Monday.  Tuesday might be more terrific.

TONY:  A lady showed up at the cigar event and you left your make up bag there. Come back and get all your make up. Say thank you to DC, Pam and Ray. We are just waiting. I know bills are due.   Let's just wait. Having faith in them. Hopefully we won’t be here. All other guru's saying Tuesday, Wednesday. We heard Friday and Saturday, too.  I'm still right at that right now. . . . everybody was told to be quiet and don't be talking.  We heard years ago, "Quiet before the storm" Get ready for it. Enjoy your day.

 You know far more than you know you know.  Never ask, "Can I do this?  

Ask instead, "How can I do this?"

TLAR , RRRR & KTFA CHAT UPDATES, 16 MARCH

3-16-15 Tlar: All indicators point to the fact we should know the truth of this investment this month. There appears to be no more stoppers, but remember it is Iraq and there are people who don't want to see Iraq prosper at all both inside and outside of the country starting with Maliki. Some will do anything to stop this. 

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3-16-15 KTFA:

harvestime :Does anyone know what Frank might be saying when he said this in his Blue Post? "THE PAGE IS NOT THE PAGE BUT U CAN TOUCH IT."  He said we could play with it via posts.

Frank26:  There is something special ..... Different about this Excel Spread Sheet.

If I would have told You last night ......... Could have been a mistake via me.

24 hours may not have been enough time.

THEREFORE: As You know we wanted to do the PRESS RELEASE this Monday about Your Bill Rasmussen and Frank Villa hour show that has been introduced to our KTFA FAMILY.

Yet due to the significant steps by the GOICBI in the last few days and hours we are considering to cancel this FIRST HOUR SHOW and use all of our allotted time to share with You our IQD Studies with TEAMS.

The decision will be made by 5 pm est today based on REPORTS and other Factors.

As You saw last night ........ Our forum crashed a few times due to the acute influx of many coming in to read us. May we strongly suggest that You join us early on Your Monday Night CC tonight. Prayer is what Unites and Bonds us as Christians ......... Be Constant about it. C U on Your CC in ........... 9........ Aloha. Comment

3-16-15 Rrrr: What’s with all the negativity…. Do you not see what’s happening?... THE RI IS IN PROGRESS… it has been verified… Provinces are being paid one, by one at the new rate of $3.90. QI-Cards are loaded and being used by, at least, Students overseas, Retiree’s pensions, Contractors, etc. The New Bank codes (BIC) have been assigned so all banks can communicate via the swift software system that all of the IMF uses…. Our Blessing is arriving any time Now!.. CHILL!

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 16 MARCH

Stage3Alpha:  

LVegas: March 16, 2015  So for once can you now say HCL is passed and verified EXO?

EXOGEN > LVegas  SOME COMPONENTS OF IT HAVE BEEN ACTIVATED BUT NOT ALL.

THE HCL WAS AGREED UPON LAST YEAR

KURDISTAN IS NOT 100% HAPPY YET

ALL SHOULD BE REVEALED ABOUT THE HCL THIS WEEK IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED!!

HOPEFULLY  OTHER GOODIES WILL BE REVEALED THIS WEEK AS WELL!!!

IS THE SYSTEM NOW TURNED ON & IMPLEMENTED & ACTIVATED FOR IRAQ TO DO INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND GLOBAL BANKING-100% YES
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wilbur grodan MARKET ACTION supporting RI WEDNESDAY and RV APRIL 7

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Ian H > Don I read exo's post of Ben F and it makes me think that Iraq is waiting for the the change of financial systems to happen on the 20th. It looks to me that will be the death knell to the cabal

Don > Ian H It makes perfect sense to me as well. If this is indeed the case, we should all be thrilled and happy the worst banking elements have been moved out of the way.

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Serendipity March 16, 2015 at 5:18pm  Can some one please explain something to me? I thought when the Dinar RI/RV happens it will not make the average Iraqi citizen rich. It will just make it a lot cheaper for Iraq to buy goods from other countries.

Just like if our USD increases to $1.20. I wouldn't be able to go to the bank with a $1 an expect them to give me $1.20?

Therefore, why is DC and other Gurus saying that the Iraqi citizens are angry, because other people besides them are being paid in country?

I am very confused. Will the average Iraqi citizen be getting a good sum of money from the RV or not?

EXOGEN > Serendipity THE HCL IS WHAT PAYS THE CITIZENS

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Don March 16, 2015 at 5:41pm This may be the missing piece to the puzzle?

mdj wrote moments ago:  He said Kurdish source told the Euphrates News} {today that "high-level Kurdish delegation will visit Baghdad tomorrow, to complete the negotiations on outstanding issues with the Government Center and the most important of which the conditions of the Peshmerga and exports of oil and financial benefits to the region."

EXOGEN > Don  THEY ARE ALREADY THERE

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shaman March 16, 2015 at 5:46pm

High-level Kurdish delegation to visit Baghdad today

BAGHDAD / follow-up justice - 03/17/2015

 Scheduled to begin a Kurdish delegation 

Tuesday's visit to Baghdad for further talks on outstanding issues between the center and the Kurdistan region. 

Kurdish source said that "high-level Kurdish delegation will visit Baghdad today, to complete the negotiations on outstanding issues with the government of the center and the most important of which the conditions of the Peshmerga and exports of oil and financial benefits to the region."  The Kurdish delegation had visited Baghdad in the last half of the month of February, headed by Barzani to complete the discussion of the outstanding issues between the center and the region. 

The Cabinet has approved in {2 from last December 2014} on the oil agreement between the federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government, which provides for the delivery of the Kurdistan region of at least 250 thousand barrels of oil a day to the federal government; for the purpose of export.

EXOGEN > shaman THEY HAVE ALREADY ARRIVED

EXOGEN  March 16, 2015 at 6:18pm


Poppy3  FOR THOSE HAVING DOUBT ABOUT YOUR INVESTMENT ---7 TIMES IN HISTORY WHEN COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN LIBERATED BY WAR THEY HAVE HAD THEIR CURRENCY DROP TO PRACTICALLY NOTHING DURING THE WAR AS IRAQ HAS. 

THEN USUALLY WITHIN 4 YEARS AFTER LIBERATION THEY HAVE REVALUED THEIR CURRENCY TO AT LEAST WHAT IT WAS PRE WAR.  

 KEEP IN MIND ALL THESE COUNTRIES STILL HAD A WORKING GOVERNMENT WHICH IRAQ DIDN'T HAVE.  

THEY HAVE HAD TO FORM A COMPLETE NEW GOVERNMENT...  

PLUS THE REASONS A VERY LIMITED PEOPLE EVER MADE MONEY OFF THESE EARLIER REVALS IS ONLY HIGH RANKING OFFICIALS KNEW ABOUT THEM.   

THERE WASN'T THE COMMUNICATION WORLD WIDE AS TODAY. 

I TRULY THINK THEY HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB THUS FAR...MY THOUSANDS INVESTED AND MY 11 YEARS OF FOLLOWING PROGRESS HAS BEEN VERY WELL SPENT.  POPPY3

THEY HAVE ALL PM (Prime Ministers) AND PRESIDENTS WITH OTHER LEADERS CBI GOV. ETC TOMORROW .

LETS ALL PRAY THEY ARE FINISHING UP AS THEY SAID THEY WOULD AND THAT THEY FIND FAVOR WITH ONE ANOTHER. POPPY3

TNT CC NOTES, 16 MARCH

3-16-15 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):

Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#

http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=67233945

Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Monday, March 16, 2015.  I hate every time Pam reminds me of the date… we are really on that date again??  DC has been in meetings today, so he doesn’t know what I’m going to say. Today I want to go as far as we can go without crossing the line, so I may stretch it a bit. Before that, thank you to everyone who came and met with me on Friday – I was expecting about 15 people, and 30+ showed up.   I did say between 5 and 6, and apparently some left before I arrived.  I met a lot of great people, and it was a good experience… they got to meet each other and had a great time with stories of what they would do with their money and how to protect it.  The guys who own the vineyard were there, and a brain surgeon, a bank executive (which surprised me), people from all walks of life.  I appreciate it.  The highlight of the evening was getting to meet living history… We had a lady showed up who was the first black chief Master Sergeant in the Air Force.  In the military you can only stay in until you are 31, unless… and she was an ‘unless’;  they kept re-enlisting her because there was no one to replace her in that position, which they created for her. Once she quit, they stopped that position. So it was cool to meet her, take pictures, etc.

A lot of  stuff happened over the weekend, and a lot came to light as well. A lot of people put out information that we announced early last week!  It’s like people don’t believe what we say until they see it in print, like it’s brand new information once it is printed.  All our people were saying, “Didn’t Tony and DC say that last week?”  I know we talked about the Swift codes and the provinces being paid in Basra and Kirkuk.  I like that they came back and gave the same information, because all that happened on Tuesday.  However, we still haven’t seen the RV, even though that info came out anew on Sunday…

DC:  Hope everyone’s having a great day.  We’re all a little frustrated it didn’t come out this weekend;  there is good news, but it has not been declared. There is more good news in Iraq, everyone is locked down and ready to go.

Tony:  You might want to hear the details today.

DC:  They have started to pay people out in areas of Iraq, in a planned way.  We are all taken aback by how methodical and slow they are doing this in Iraq.  I would have thought they  would do it faster because of the state of their finances.  In most areas, it’s pretty safe.  They have started paying contractors owed money by the country and by provinces, starting in Basra and Kirkuk.  If you are looking in Iraq, the northern and southern reaches are paying contractors and past debts, plus some pensioners. There are also many folks who have damaged property that the government owes money to, as in knocking down the odd house or fence as they move into a town.  The best thing is to pay reparations, and those payments have been building up for years.  There has been some resentment there, but  most have now been paid.  Some everyday citizens have also been paid, calling their friends and families and now those others want to be paid.  Tension is rising, and part of the country is still 1166, some is at $3.91, and they wonder what the heck is going on. They are learning as they go, being methodical, and it’s being actively managed by the CBI and the Finance Ministry. That is good.

In the northern and southern parts of Iraq, they have started exchanging at $3.91, but not in Baghdad or ISIL-held areas.  This has been changing day by day.  Many are shocked and there is tension because it’s not consistent throughout the country yet. At what point do you roll it out to everyone at the same time. They are feeling that out several times per day.  I am being told every eight hours that they are getting their act together and preparing for rolling it out to everyone in the next few days.  Soon the snowball will start rolling on its own.

Tony: They have started from the outside in, with Baghdad being the center.  We would have expected it the other way round, with Baghdad first, but they are doing it in the provinces first.  We know it was supposed to go Saturday night, and we expected to have a great weekend, but they didn’t get that far.

DC: That’s right, they said they wanted to get a bit further along in the provinces. This is driving the rest of the world crazy, and the contractors also don’t get why they are being paid at one rate here and another rate there.  They are being cautious, to make sure it comes off right. I would argue that as an engineer, Abadi is walking very slowly, together with Dr Shabibi.  We are taken about by how methodical and how slowly they are doing this, but it’s their country.

With ISIL, they are doing good work in Tikrit, with most of the town squared away but still a few pockets of fighting. Given the rumors and the family/tribal connections, many ISIL fighters are walking off the job as their relatives are getting paid.  No good comes from ISIL because you end up dead, so their families are getting them to come to back to the fold very quietly, saying they were on a foreign trip or something like that. The tide of judgment and public perception is changing in a positive way.

Parliament is meeting as usual this week, and the main topics are about refining export agreements with the Turkish pipeline, and what to do with some bad guys, plus who to do with business with (such as Maliki’s goons). They are looking at reconstruction around Tikrit as well. We are not waiting on this;  it nearly went through several times last week, so we are not waiting on anything for the RV.  It has started and ridiculous sums have been moved. Pam has mentioned blank sites and documents, with 1166 being removed as the rate. Some cards have $3.58 and some have $3.91.

Tony:  Do we have to wait until ISIL is completely removed from Iraq?  A year ago, ISIL only had 1,500 people in the country and if they had RVed then, they would not have had a problem.

DC:  They have already started the RV process;  they are adjusting it, that’s all. Their main judgment on when to roll this out to the rest of the world, they have meetings every eight hours, and they keep checking the different areas and seeing how it’s working in practice.  ISIL enters into the mix, yes, but getting them out of the country is not really a factor.  They are not going to give a terrorist organization a lot of money, and they already have planned how to prevent that.

Tony:  Parliament is meeting. We know that the budget has been passed and all the relevant laws have been passed.  Why are people still saying laws have to be passed?

DC:  I don’t get what the gurus are saying.  You can listen to everyone and form your own opinion.  Our sources say that we are good enough.  Just like any other government, some parliamentarians are using this situation to apply pressure to get what they want.  But they don’t control it.  The CBI is driving this bus. They are keeping the Council of Ministers every day, but what I see is that MPs are horse-trading to get their favorite projects funded, or whatever.  We are getting a lot of information fed through that kind of lens.  The parliamentarians are blatantly using this, although they don’t control it – an I would do the same.

Tony: We know that all the banks connected internationally a week ago Sunday, with the Swift codes being issued.  That means the system is free-flowing. We know people have sent and received international funds.  The system has already been approved, and we are in the middle of the RV process.  It hasn’t hit our shores yet.  In Iraq, they are paying from the top down, starting with the government, then the contractors, then those owed money by the government.  The citizens will be last, like we are last.  They are starting with the outer provinces, and they will bring that gradually into the center, which is Baghdad.  That’s Iraq.

DC: The US and the rest of the world are in lockdown, in ‘hurry up and wait’ mode. All governments are trying to get a heads up on the  real plan, and they are not getting anything. They have done a few exchanges throughout the world.  Bankers have been told strictly not to talk to people like us;  they don’t want their employees talking about their process. Several times they have been flashed that this is ready and then it hasn’t gone through – on all levels, from bank executives and wealth managers down to the tellers.  The FBI and security are twiddling their thumbs, waiting.  There is no longer an anticipated time.  Some banks have said, “Don’t call us until it actually pops”.  Everyone is just waiting.

Tony:  It’s started.  The banks can actually see the international rate, and they know the system is working.  They processed a few people this weekend. They had the option to do what they chose over the weekend, but they don’t want to bring in a million people and find that Iraq has changed its mind.  They are fully capable as soon as this is made public.  I like that the banks are locked down.  We were told over the weekend, “Don’t ask;  we are not allowed to tell you.”  Even the guy doing your exchange is saying “don’t ask” because they are nervous their phones are being tapped.  Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do!  We know that’s where we are.

Tony: Someone who has good information wants to know why bank screens are blank right now.  That is, they could see the new rates before but now there is a system-wide blank.

DC: In different locations, they have been removing the information from the screens so that they don’t talk to us or anyone else. When it comes back up, though…  We are not saying this is happening today;  they could stay blank for three days.  But everybody’s ready!

302 caller:  I’m in a real quandary.  I think sometimes you are acting as intelligence operatives, especially DC.  The thoughts causing me confusion, and it’s like we’re there every call.  If the information you’re getting is not giving the answers everyone wants to hear, maybe you need to turn an operative on the other side to give better intel.  I see what you are doing is like the announcer at the ball game, rather than telling us the score.  Are you reporting what happened?  Or telling us what will happen?

DC:  We do both.  The bottom line is that we don’t know. This entire game has been ad hoc, rule-by-committee meeting.  It could have gone a hundred times since October 31, 2013. It could go right now!  They continue to add “good ideas” and changes;  powerful people keep saying “Woudn’t it be a good idea if we get back Tikrit?”  Where did that come from?  Why didn’t they say that a month earlier?

The person pushing the button is Dr Shabibi with the support of Dr Abadi.  They need world support and confidence, and they are trying to get it done in the midst of a minor civil war.  There are emails and calls going back and forth saying “Tonight!” and then Maliki would try and get some third cousin appointed as a general and the US would flip its lid… and that kind of thing happens over and over again.  Yes, it should have gone on Friday night and then on Saturday, but there is not a set plan or playbook.  It’s all ad hoc.  Abadi and Shabibi wanted to get other issues taken care of, and they keep changing the criteria.  We get information from many different places and levels, but even with all that information we still don’t know when it’s going to happen because Dr Shabibi doesn’t know.  I cannot get into his head!

We absolutely understand everyone’s frustration, which we share. We want to get off this ride and get on with our lives.

Tony: We know what time it should have gone on Friday, and it didn’t. They then said, we’ll do it the same time on Saturday – and it didn’t go.  I cannot tell you those times, and a memo went round with those times, but we are told NOT to say that on the call.  They trust us to help the process, not hurt it.  If we tell you the times, they will almost certainly change them, plus it gets our sources into trouble.

Caller:  Thank you for your efforts.  I hope this comes soon!

DC:  This is stuff I deal with on a daily basis.  I deal with a lot of folks who don’t even want to be in the same room with each other.  They are saying, “That so-and-so wont’ do this” and then here the exact opposite from the other side.  Sometimes Tony and I have to just sit there and listen, like therapists.  No one person, including me and Tony, has the entire picture book.  They don’t!  Dr. Shabibi doesn’t care what is going on in Georgia, and that person waiting at the airport doesn’t care what Shabibi is thinking – he just wants his money!  There are different cultures clashing here as well.  One of my Iraqi contacts said this morning, “You Americans are too uptight about time – we will get this done” while I am saying, “Buddy, you’re a day late!”

574 caller:  Like DC, I grew up on a farm, and I got up when the sun got up, and went in when the sun went down.  I looked outside this morning early, and two robins were chasing a female robin – that was their time!  I have given gifts of currency to several people in the past, in the US and Canada.  I gave them copies my original receipt and a gift letter, and I can’t think of anything else.  Is it too late to email them as one more thing showing the date and time?  If they have started the RV, maybe it’s too late.

Tony: Sure you can email – any documentation helps.

Caller:  I will send out some emails right away.  Thank you.

423 caller:  I’ve been trying for two years to get on the line with you.  I’m a first time caller!  I’m in Tennessee. All the states around us have state income tax, and TN does not.  If I go to another tax and exchange, do I have to pay their taxes?

DC:  I don’t know.  I’ve asked that question, and keep getting “wait and see.” If I go to California, I am not happy paying 13%.  Sometimes if you do business in a state, you may have to pay tax there.  I have a small stake in a company in CA, and have to pay tax on that part.  Chattanooga or Knoxville both have plenty of exchange centers.  Even if you don’t have any of the big five in your town, the tier 2 banks may have contract rates.  Basically, any bank that can handle foreign currency will be able to exchange.

702 caller:  Are you saying that the reason we are being held off at this point is because Iraq wants to pay their people in a slower rollout, and they also want to contain ISIL?

DC:  Sort of;  it’s a day-to-day thing.  They want to control the payouts to contractors.  ISIL is a factor;  they don’t want ISIL to be able to take back territory, but that’s not really a driving force here.

Caller:  Sometimes I wonder if they are just playing you… the way.

DC:  There are those who want to discredit us, but I don’t think we’re good enough or important enough to be a major factor.  There are people all over the place giving us information.  Yes, there are people who have to say “Winston, you’re wrong, you’re a disgrace”, etc.   Today is a perfect example.

Caller:  So you are getting memos with dates and times, but you are also saying that Shabibi doesn’t know the date and time… so which is it.

Tony:  Let’s say the memo says “We’ll roll this out publicly at 12.01 on Thursday, and before then we’ll do 12 provinces.”  And only eight provinces got done… so we’re not doing it.  These things happen in real life.  They then say, “We’ll do it the next day.”  Every week the bank brings in security people and staff, and they think “this is the plan.”   We get it all planned for this to happen, and we’ll see if Shabibi pushes the button. They tell the banks to be ready, and the banks get ready, and then it doesn’t happen.  It comes from them, not from us.  When they say to get ready, we get ready.  Everything is done, the banks are ready, the Swift codes are done – why would we not get ready?

We are giving you information you should never have!  You should be reading the articles saying that this won’t happen for another year – we are giving you stuff you should never have learned about.

Caller:  I know it’s frustrating for you, too.  I just wonder how long they can drag this out.

Tony:  If they want their country back, they will have to do this. When they can see it on their cards, when people are being exchanged and telling their families, then I don’t see how they make this go much longer.

Caller:  Do you still think that the market rate will go up? And if you have an MCA, and we put the currency in that, will you be able to exchange at a higher rate?  Would that be contract rate or international rate.

Tony:  Yes, you could, but the rates change very quickly.  It would be better to have the currency in your hand, so then you can either walk into the bank and exchange right away, or set it up with your dealer to exchange when it hits the rate you want.  If you have it in an MCA, you have to get hold of your banker, and he may have many other millionaires to deal with.

707 caller:  I have been playing with the numbers about the contract rate.  If I have 100,000 and they want me to keep all their money in the bank, is that before or after tax?

DC:  It’s always post-tax. If the bank wants you to keep 20% of your money in their bank, you can still invest that money and have the bank look after it.

Tony:  So if you have 100K dinar, and the contract rate is $10, that’s a million.  Set aside 50% for taxes, and you have $500,000.  Let’s say the bank says you have to keep 20% in order to get the contract rate – that means you leave $100,000 in the bank, and you can do whatever you want with the remaining $400,000.  If you don’t take the contract rate, and the rate is $1, then you only get 100,000 total, and $50,000 net.  So it’s very much worth taking the contract rate.

Caller:  What is the HCL?  Before that, let’s do a PSA to all the gurus.  We have to wait until Wednesday and that is a long 48 hours to play with our emotions. You have said many times that the RV is not dependent on more laws, on ISIL, or anything.  I wish they wouldn’t add in all that, because it just keeps us discouraged.  It’s just crazy!

Tony:  I have a hard time responding to what I deem to be nonsense, especially when we have explained things several times.  However, it’s their privileges to say all that.

DC:  HCL is the Hydro-Carbon Law. Iraq has a lot of oil, and HCL describes who owns it, the revenues shares, and where the tribal lines are drawn (which have never been defined before).  It’s a complicated situation, and those lines mean millions of dollars to different tribes and groups, in terms of what gets credited to whom.  Iraq had to negotiate all that with Kurdistan and other parties;  they’ve been debating that for ten years, and publicly for the last 3-4 years. It’s a fluid environment. For example, there are a lot of fields being developed in the North, but also some fields in the south that need some work. As the situation shifts, Kurdistan may want to renegotiate X% overall for more from this area or that one.  They have got to a point where it’s ‘good enough’, and they will keep discussing that for the next 100 years, probably.  Now, this is where the money is coming from, so it was important to get that done.

Tony:  They have done it, agreed it, signed and announced that, based the Qi cards on that rate, etc.  Even though articles said that was still being decided, in time it was announced at the exact same rate we mentioned a month before!

775 caller:  I recently lost my job and I’m on the verge of being homeless, so if anyone has a right to **** and moan, it would be me.  But I do not have that right, because I have hitched my star to this opportunity.  I haven’t sold a single dinar back, and I feel so blessed to have this opportunity.  My heart goes out to Iraq, and pray that they stand strong in support of their democracy, because we are losing many of our freedoms.

You have mentioned some apps that will give us alerts.  I haven’t have a lot of success with that.  Can you recommend any that are easy to use?

DC:  I like Yahoo Finance.  Some investment brokers have their own apps, like Ameri-Trade and Charles Schwab.  Most trading platforms offer that as part of their service.  Yahoo is free;  others you have to have a trading account with them.  If you are trading options, then you will want a different app than if you are trading oil/gas futures.  Most have free apps, and maybe you pay a small amount for more/better information.

Tony:  After the RV, you won’t have to worry about those minor fees.  You do want to call each bank and find out when they update their rates.  Choose your banks, and see what their new rate is shortly after they update their rates.

Caller:  I spoke to Sterling recently because I thought you said that Sterling would be selling their orders on the Forex rate?  When I spoke to Sterling, they said they would be ‘competitive’, but not using Forex as their baseline.

Tony:  They have always said that they would be competitive with the banks on the international rate.  Sterling doesn’t believe in the contract rate.

Caller: [Appreciation]  I look forward to Iraq’s golden future.

404 caller:  Other folks are suggesting we will be in the banks tomorrow or Wednesday;  what do your sources saying along those lines?

DC:  A lot of  people are preparing for tomorrow, but it could go down any time. The banks are prepped for tomorrow in the US and around the world, because that is the information they are getting out of Baghdad.

Caller:  Are celebrations being prepared in Iraq, as I have heard?

DC: Celebrations are planned for the success of Tikrit, but it could serve a dual purpose.  Champagne was chilled around the world in the past, but that has failed to materialize so many times that everyone has got jaded. Now they are trying to keep everyone calm. Let’s hope this is the real deal.  Many dignitaries are arriving in Baghdad for Wednesday.

Caller: If Abadi/Shabibi get too slow and methodical, will the IMF step in?

DC:  No.  The biggest issue is the tension inside Iraq, with many citizens frustrated at how long this is taking. They are still seeing a rate of 1166, without having a job. A lot of them are losing faith in Abadi, although he is doing a stellar job, because they just want to get out of their horrible situation now.  They want results, not a lot of talk.  Tension is very, very high.

Tony: There is no need to threaten Iraq when they are already doing it right at this moment. It can only be so many days before it is done. We just have to wait.

Caller:  What about your events in Las Vegas, Atlanta, etc.?

DC: We just don’t know.  It depends on our NDAs.  Some people just don’t want dinar to be talked about.  They are not trying to be punitive;  they have ground rules they feel are indisputable, and we have to see what those are.

Tony: We just want there to be a chance for you guys to meet each other, as rich, like-minded people, if it’s only for a day.  We are not going to talk about dinar at the events, because it will be over with by then. It’s not about book or movie deals;  it’s a celebration and a way for the banks to help you deal with this money.  Most of the events will be one-day events, with hopefully four days in Vegas so we can rotate people through the bank trainings.

Caller:  May this be the day!

856 caller: How would the Swift codes affect the RV/RI?

DC:  Swift codes means that it’s possible to send money internationally;  it makes it easier to pay and be paid.  You could do business in Iraq now off the 1166 rate, but they are talking about bringing back the original status and economic drive.

Caller:  How many provinces have to be paid before this goes?

Tony:  Wait, I was only using that as an example.  I don’t know how many have been paid, although some people have been paid in at least two provinces.

DC:  Not everyone in those provinces has been paid;  some have been paid, including contractors, but that puts them on a short clock, when your friends have been paid and you are still eating rice and beans. They have been paying at the $3.91 rate. There are still several rates in different areas and banks. However, the CBI is paying out at $3.91.

Caller:  So if someone is in Baghdad wants to do international commerce, they have to go to the north or south to do their business?

DC:  Yes, and it’s a mess that they cannot continue this weird system for very long.  The cards where at different rates for 1.5 years, and mostly the VIPs were at the higher rate.  Most people in the country don’t know that some areas are now at $3.91. They are saying that in some parts of the country it is complete, and in other parts it is being tested or partially done. It’s confusing and frustrating.

Tony:  The Qi cards are one things, and Visa/MasterCard is at another rate. They have loaded the Qi cards first, but they are not able to use them until the citizens have their cards at that rate as well. However, our friend in the US has been able to use his Qi card at $3.91.  They are just connecting the banks and training them how to use the system.  The people don’t have confidence in the banks yet, so the citizens are having to learn as well.  Bank of America has four different systems in the US, and it can take two days for a wire to show up in the same bank, sent from CA to Washington.  That is not about the distance, it’s about different (separate) regional systems.

Caller:  This meeting on Wednesday – what is that about, do you know?

DC: ISIL and the reconstruction – but it would be  nice to have the RV by then and have a party afterwards!  I think this RV will happen at any time. It’s not easy to do work in Iraq right now with this messed up system.  Everyone has to get onto ONE system;  when you are trying to build confidence in the country and government, this will have to get sorted out in very short order.

Caller:  I would think you’d want the people in Baghdad taken care of before all these delegates arrive.  DC, what would you ask Tony?

DC:  Tony, in this process, how many contact know what is going on every day?

Tony:  Just like in the US, we have bank people and Parliamentary people telling us what is going on, plus people from other countries who have contacts in Iraq.  We have people who are very involved in the actual process, at both high and low levels.  A long time ago, these people decided they wanted to help up and send out information so that it couldn’t be hidden any longer. People were getting doors kicked in, their computers taken away and some even went to jail, so they sacrificed a lot to inform us.  Some where on Saddam Hussein’s wanted list.  Since he’s gone, they should be okay.

When we tell people the cards are loaded at the $3.91 rate, they don’t understand why we are giving a dollar rate when Iraq is de-dollarizing.

DC:  When we give that rate, we are saying that they are supposed to receive a certain number of dinar, which is then worth heaps more than the dinar @1166.  It doesn’t say $3.91 on the card, it’s in dinar, because they are getting away from the dollar.  That is the international rate.

DC:  I know we are all frustrated that it continues to inch ahead, but  the RV process has actually begun.   When does it cross over to the point where it is impeding business and commerce?  They are doing it very methodically – not to hurt us, but to move it forward as methodically as they can.  With 2-3 meetings per day, they are judging where they are in the process. Throughout the world, everyone is ready and also pretty frustrated.  It is now 24/7;  they don’t care what time it is announced, and the US is not concerned about it messing up the markets. They are not looking at the clock anymore.

Pam:  Get professionals that you have vetted that cater to the customers you are doing to be – gazillionaires rather than mom-and-pop investors.  You probably won’t meet them at church or even at the bank. You have time, and take that time meet the right people.  It’s worth the wait – stay in it, it’s worth it. Don’t give up!

Ray:  Who would consider giving up based on what they heard today?  This is IT!  We are already rolling, it’s just a matter of when we see it.  Enjoy your Marvelous Monday!

Tony:  There was a lady who showed up at the cigar event, and you left your makeup back – they are holding it for you. Thank you to DC, Pam and Ray.  We are just waiting.  We do still have to pay the bills, but we will hold on and see what happens.  Hopefully we won’t have to be here on Wednesday. The other gurus have been saying that, but we heard Friday and Saturday, too. We were told to be quiet and mind our business today.  We heard a few years ago that there would be chaos, and then there might be silence before the storm.  Would that be Hurricane Pam?  We may be in that now, get so ready for it!  Enjoy your day!

EXOGEN & OOTW UPDATES, 16 MARCH

3-16-15 EXOGEN: AS PEOPLE LOOK AT INTEL DATES AND RATES, AND HOPIUM, THEY OVERLOOK GLOBAL BUSINESS REALITY AND HOW THE GOLD BUSINESS CHANGES NEXT WEEK................

THIS IS HISTORIC!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP IQD LAND!!! LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.............PLEASE!!! WAKE UP!!!!

DO YOU KNOW WHAT RUSSIA DOES TOMORROW [MONDAY] IN CONJUNCTION WITH CHINA & CURRENCY AND FUTURES CONTRACTS?

An electronic auction run by the Intercontinental Exchange is due to take over from the gold "fix" on March 20.

WE TOLD YOU THE NEXT WINDOW WAS LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO 22 WE WERE WATCHING.

3-16-15 OOTW: Something to consider - private sector development and solidity would help sure up/stabilize the currency - and remember a WTO requirement is to have an internationally traded currency - so I would suspect they want to perhaps get their private sector solid, then change the value and ascend to the WTO near the same time. 

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 16 MARCH

Stage3Alpha:

EXOGEN > EXOGEN March 15, 2015 at 11:46pm

AS PEOPLE LOOK AT INTEL DATES AND RATES, AND HOPIUM, THEY OVERLOOK GLOBAL BUSINESS REALITY AND HOW THE GOLD BUSINESS CHANGES NEXT WEEK................

THIS IS HISTORIC!!!!!!!!!    WAKE UP IQD LAND!!!

LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.............PLEASE!!!

WAKE UP!!!!

DO YOU KNOW WHAT RUSSIA DOES TOMORROW IN CONJUNCTION WITH CHINA & CURRENCY AND FUTURES CONTRACTS?
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Dr. Mark > EXOGEN Change the game to impact all gold markets, currency values (Basel III impact) worldwide and for Dinarland increase the value of the soon to be launched currencies. Or something to that order...

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EXOGEN March 15, 2015 at 11:59pm

An electronic auction run by the Intercontinental Exchange is due to take over from the gold "fix" on March 20.

Yoni Spumoni > EXOGEN Is this what you were referring to last week when you asked us to investigate the global effect China would have in the coming days? 

Quote: “ EXOGEN March 8, 2015 at 9:00pm  PAY CLOSE ATTENTION THIS WEEK AS TO HOW THE INSIDERS WILL FLIP FLOP & WILL TRY TO SAVE FACE BY SAYING THEY ARE ANGRY ABOUT ISIS DESTROYING ARTIFACTS.    ALSO FIND OUT WHAT CHINA IS NOW AUTHORIZED TO DO IN REFERENCE TO GETTING BAD GUYS GLOBALLY”

EXOGEN > Yoni Spumoni WE TOLD YOU THE NEXT WINDOW WAS LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO 22 WE WERE WATCHING

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Dr. Mark > Imagine the impact if on that same day or close thereafter the gold process changed the currencies are changed...I believe the true term you all use is BOOM... But more of a financial nuclear type!

Janie > EXOGEN so let's see if I "get" this. Replacing the gold fix now allows gold to free-float in the market, thus opening the door to the rise in price that everyone is expecting to show the true value. And thus increasing the value of individual countries' asset-backed currencies.

Yoni Spumoni > Janie GREAT JOB, JANIE! THANK YOU!

Don > EXOGEN In Layman's terms, what does this mean, exactly?

Vinman > Don Allen Gold will be priced at it's highest auction rate.  Therefore not controlled by the 4 major banks as in the past.

ace waterman > Janie Yeah, gold has to hit it's true value before us slaves can load up on it.

Janie > ace waterman  no, this is all good.... it means the banks are now powerless to control the money system. And it means that gold will indeed rise to its true value, having been suppressed for so many years, and it means WE are going to the bank really soon :) - we are NOT slaves. Not anymore.

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EXOGEN March 15, 2015 at 11:39pm

HKEx suspends gold futures contract as London gold 'fix' gets makeover

Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:45am EDT

LONDON, March 13 (Reuters) - The Hong Kong Futures Exchange Ltd. (HKFE) on Friday suspended its thinly-traded gold futures contract ahead of next week's replacement of the century-old London process known as the "fix", against which the gold futures were priced.

An electronic auction run by the Intercontinental Exchange is due to take over from the gold "fix" on March 20.

HKFE, owned by the Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing Limited (HKEx), introduced the dollar-denominated 100-ounce contract in October 2008, settled on the morning version of the twice-daily gold benchmark.

"HKEx will review its precious metals strategy from a group perspective and redesigned gold futures contracts may be added to the HKEx Group's product list in the future," it said in a statement.

It noted that the contract, which failed to gain traction among investors, had no open interest at Friday's market close.

The move to an electronic auction for gold is part of a wider precious metals benchmarking reform that started in 2014, which stopped daily conference calls between representatives of a handful of banks, who agreed a price referenced by producers, consumers and investors to trade and value gold. (Reporting By Clara Denina; Editing by Elaine Hardcastle)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/13/gold-hkex-idUSL5N0WF2U320150313


MONDAY (I.C.E.) INTEL UPDATE!!!

Posted by EXOGEN on March 16, 2015 at 12:05am

Intercontinental Exchange (NYSE: ICE) is the leading network of regulated exchanges and clearinghouses for financial and commodity markets.

11 Regulated Exchanges

7 Central Clearing Houses

12,000 Traded Contracts & Securities
Across All Major Asset Classes

ICE futures exchanges in the US, Canada, Europe, and Singapore*

New York Stock Exchange

Equity options exchanges

OTC energy, credit and equity markets

ICE Clear Europe

ICE Clear U.S.

ICE Clear Canada

ICE Clear Singapore*

ICE Clear Credit

The Clearing Corporation

Holland Clearing House

Energy

Interest Rates

Credit

Currency

Bonds

Agriculture

Precious Metals

Equities

Equity Indexes

Exchange Traded Products (ETPs)

Equity Options

*Launching 1H 2015, subject to regulatory approval from the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS).

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SLH 1812 > EXOGEN March 16, 2015 at 12:16am

ICE announcement brings us to: 
On high alert/watching for on or before the 22nd
Watching for asset backed system/change from old to new

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Mr Virtue > EXOGEN The 100 year old London Fix on Gold & Silver are moving their offices to China.  China has proven to be #1 in economic activity in the world, so UN, BIS, IMF, World Bank are to be established in China by January-February, 2016.  Read this last year.

Janie > this is big picture thinking here. Lifting the gold fix means the banks are no longer in control of the price suppression of gold. It means the currencies of the world are about to be backed by something solid. It means the free-float of gold, and you'll now see the price begin to climb to where it "should" be in the market. AND, it'll bring on the GCR, because all those emerging countries will now have more stability and value as gold increases in the markets. 

Janie March 16, 2015 at 12:57am This was THE BEST intel in days, Exo.... even if it isn't dinar intel. Great article about the gold auction. We are so about to see the changes we need in the financial system. Great way to end my Sunday evening. thank you, sir.