Thursday, June 19, 2014


One of the things I learned from 20 years of political campaigns is mud slinging will come out in the last few days before the election.  Friends and companions will turn on each other and will do whatever it takes to win, because in elections, there are no 'red' ribbons, only one person wins.

As we approach our dream of the RV/GCR becoming a reality, some have started the dirty work.  Myself, Mark/Piff, Okie and others on this team have been called liars, scammers, cheaters, and had our lives threatened.  In most occasions we are willing to let it go, as blatant attacks are indications of deep fear and insecurity by the attackers.  As they learn the truth that they are going to be left out of the private exchanges, they start doing whatever it takes in their eyes to recoup their position and prestige.  That's why you are seeing last gasp efforts to put together private deals that are not legitimate.

On such occasions, if the lie is told often enough and loud enough, the observers/readers will not know the difference as they have no other information.  There are times the truth needs to be told so individuals can do their homework and make their own good decisions by not being pulled into such false private exchanges.

Yesterday, Okie, who is apart of this PIF team was asked to make an authorized statement declaring there is only one official group.  We are that group.  I was sitting with Mark in his home as he was on the phone with Okie discussing this situation.  Some of you were concerned by that statement as it was not clear who was a part of that official group.  Okie's statement is our statement.....we are all apart of this team.

For over 2 1/2 months we have been open, transparent and clear about who we are and our endeavors to make this private exchange available for you.  All of that information is on my website, been in my newsletters, in my videos and on my radio programs.  Anyone can go and listen, read, or watch how we have been as open and transparent as we are allowed to be.

In the last few days an organization has arisen that is saying they are an official group.  They are copying what we have been doing for months.  They are asking forms to be filled out, blue thumb prints to be submitted, and have put together a private dong transaction.

Today, this organization has called Okie a liar, that he has false info, is not authorized to do what he says and has no idea what he is talking about.

There comes a time to tell the truth for the sake of us all in this endeavor.

Our exchanges have been closed and we believe this organization is taking advantage of those not in a private exchange and luring them into a false one.

Brian Fogel, as known as Blaino is falsifying the information. Brian was an Okie protege, broke off and developed his own site.  On multiple occasions he was caught lying for the sake of money and prestige.  Here is a link to the article where his former webmaster called him out for such actions.

Click here if you wish to see the article.

Brian.....you need to do your homework.  If you listen to my radio programs you will see that Okie is telling the truth.

Brian's recent article posted on various websites states they are the ones who have the official contacts.  For months I have been saying, ask the bottom line questions; who is paying for your exchange, and in what currency are you being paid.  Anyone can go back and listen to the past month or so of my radio programs and can hear the truth for themselves.  We have clearly said to never turn your currency over to anyone except the bank at the time of your exchange.  We have always stated this is a voluntary private exchange and no one has to participate if they are not comfortable doing so.

While we do not like making these kinds of statements, we want to tell you the truth so you can be informed and make your own decisions.

As stated, our private dinar and dong exchanges are closed.  That's why we urge you to exercise caution in joining any other private exchange.  Because ours is closed there can be an urgency to try and 'get in on a deal' that sounds great, but can be filled with severe problems.

We urge you to read Okie's statement again and consider it's caution. We are the authorized group Okie refers to.

Click here for the link to the post on Dinares Gurus

Thank you for understanding!




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White Hats Fact Check #122 Q & A With Comments Updated
June13 - June 17 Part 1

David says:
         June 13, 2014 at 12:14 pm   RE: “It occurs to me that perhaps the only way to regain our power is to refuse to participate in theirs. Turn off the TV. Talk to your neighbors. It’s amazing how many understand the nature of the problems within our country. Buy local. Encourage community interests and commerce.”

I’ve seen similar strategies posted on the internet for several years, but I still fail to see how this can truly shift “the power” on this planet.

The “powerful” people have already stolen Trillions of dollars from the masses, so I doubt they will care about increases in local buying and community gatherings. And until the most heinous criminals are properly indicted and imprisoned, they will forever be able to POISON our air, land and water… and the MINDS of the masses… and in high-tech ways that we may never detect in time!

My hope has been that the “good guys” in our military, legislative and judicial systems, will SOON rise up and expose the truth behind all this global insanity. At the very least, there has been enough hard evidence gathered on the 9/11 inside-job tragedy, to send a loud message to the masses about how much they have been lied to.

There is definitely an intriguing 2nd-half unfolding for 2014. By year end, we will all know a lot more about where this all is heading.

luckfully says:    June 13, 2014 at 1:03 pm  David-you are correct. Economically they couldn’t care less what we do locally. It’s about empowering the community. It’s about breaking the bonds of dependency on the politicals and their corrupt structure. It allows for open discussion instead of media fed opinion.

It causes us to grow concern for individuals as opposed to demographics. We begin to help one another and find solutions that don’t involve governmental agencies. That’s the concept of grassroots efforts. It takes us out of being disenfranchised and puts us into the realm of being part of the bigger picture.

Community is key. You can’t change the world by starting with the world. But you can change it one community at a time. Have you ever attended a small town council meeting? The citizens name names.

They expose issues. Opinions are formed and challenged and discussed. Political correctness was designed (yes-socially engineered) for us to build walls not bridges. It was quite effectively and deliberately introduced by the political spin doctors. Every time someone criticizes Obama they are overwhelming labeled a racist. It’s done to nullify any possibility that criticism is justified.

 Pick a subject….almost all socially relevant topics are socially unacceptable to comment on. And thus, the seeds of social isolation are sown. It becomes Us against Them…whether we feel that way or not.

Eventually we go to our corners where resentment, fear and hatred live. We have been engineered into this behavior.

Buy food from local farmers. Yes, it puts money into the community…but it lessens the spread of GMO’s. I knew years ago that all these vaccines were toxic-but it wasn’t something that was openly discussed among Mother’s in the 1990′s.

Talk about it now and you will be labeled a conspiracy theorist nutjob by the medical community, What if you were Texian and you were sharing information at the community park with other Mothers. What if your experience was heard-without the doctors whose education was financed and shaped by Big Pharma?

The examples are endless. Community involvement provides access to unfiltered, unmonitored information. It stimulates individual thinking as opposed to group mentality. If the BIG financial/economic crisis comes (and I do believe it is inevitable)…it will be necessary for us to learn how to depend upon and help one another. Not so easy in a community divided. But it will be easier if we already know and support each other. That’s why community matters…

Sorry Tony-I stay quiet for weeks and suddenly I have a lot to say-guess the caffeine is kicking in….

David says:         June 13, 2014 at 3:38 pm  Luckfully,  Regarding: “If the BIG financial/economic crisis comes (and I do believe it is inevitable)…it will be necessary for us to learn how to depend upon and help one another.”

I am already a part of two groups that are doing exactly what you are referring to, and there are thousands of these already evolving all around the world.

We have already learned to depend upon and help one another… we just weren’t expecting to have houses repossessed because of bank loan corruption, the vitality of our soil destroyed by chem-trail poisons from the sky, our heath insurance rates DOUBLE while insurance execs extort multi-million dollar bonuses, etc. etc.

I honor and support your vision, and will stand by your side BUT I also have a math calculation that is stuck in mind: How long will it take to empower Billions of people -vs- the challenge of removing the 742 corrupt individuals who are forcing havoc into billions of lives??

If we wipe out a small cartel of demonic predators, there WON’T BE a big financial/economic crisis! And after studying this carefully for over ten years… I honestly would rather remove these bloodsuckers, than try to outlive them.

luckfully says:    June 13, 2014 at 7:43 pm  David-we agree, I have walked the same path as you and yours. Removing the problem is the more effective (and preferable) course long term. In rereading my responses I realize at some point I mentally abandoned the possibility of removing the culprits and began focusing on displacing them.

I know that removing them is what the White Hats are working on (and I’m appreciative). The conventional wisdom doesn’t apply. I’ve lost faith in our electoral process, our laws and our media, but I haven’t lost hope. Apparently what I lack is direction-lol. Thanks for making me think!

David says:         June 14, 2014 at 3:00 amIf you enjoy “thinking”, you might want to hang out on this site for a while:  http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/toc.html

This “contest” (http://www.truthcontest.com) is seeking and compiling submissions with direct answers to the big questions of life… where we come from, where we are going, why we are here, and the truth about life and death.

And the link above represents the top submission to-date, based on evidence, critical reason, logic, common sense, and scientific methods.  Rock on!

whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 13, 2014 at 11:11 am  Hello,  Thank you. If I knew how to make a living with simply blogging, I would. But, with this particular blog, it would be inappropriate to monetize it. That is not the focus here, and the White Hats would probably look quite dimly at me if I started off extolling their virtues and then started slipping in ads and such later on.

The blog hosting is free so there is no need to cheapen our motives, thank goodness! Besides, if all those gurus were to believe their posts, why would they even want to plaster their blogs with ads? Seems a bit of a conflict of interest.

But, yes, I would love to earn as a writer. However, my background is more along the lines of investigative/technical, with some writing, but not as a main focus.

Post RV I am heading into new directions.

For now, I am here until the deed is accomplished. Thank you, and I am sure the White Hats appreciate your support as well.
Gazza says:         June 13, 2014 at 4:11 pm  Hi all ok let me clear some things up….

Terrance R – look, it’s not about negative energy, please don’t talk to me about energy (!) it’s more about keeping it real. If this doesn’t work out the way we ALL want it to (yes, me too!) then there will be a lot of unhappy, disappointed people around who won’t have another dream like this ever again.

Best to prepare for it to fail yet hope it won’t. Now, normally I wouldn’t take that attitude but the white hates told us owon are high up in the know and owon says dinar is very risky and it seems he is saying it is the worst bet you can make amongst other things like other currencies, precious metals etc.

To be honest, there seems to be other currencies which offer better chance AND better payouts than the dinar and the dinar slips down in likelihood of being the big winner with each new owon post concerning it. So why defend it like your life depends on it, why not just cash some out and make some other plans.

I still have some dinar!!! Shocker!! I hold a little bit now. Before, I had gone in heavier and I needed the money back (some of it). I also hold a little bit of other currencies as does someone else I know.

Also, I am male not female. And I am not in the US, but the UK. I also know somebody else who has posted on here (no, not Abby before anybody starts!).

I am not trying to crush your spirits. I want the dinar to RV and we all to make something from it and do the right thing with it. I get up some days, down the next, and sometimes I feel like commenting, some days not. Someone told me to stop posting so much as I was annoying people so I did…

I stopped for a bit and post much less now. Not trying to be a troll. I guess if one person reads my comments and then decides to thrown some dinar back and get something else, then I have helped somebody. The dinar is growing more like the less attractive sister of a good looking woman.

The good looking woman is other investments at this time. The dinar was attractive but I was wet behind the ears and went in heavy without knowing what I was doing. Now I know better and so I have only a little bit left. I found my money better invested elsewhere plus I needed a little back personally.

So yes I am still a dinarian just in case. But I am expecting to keep them as a novelty when all this is over; a painful reminder of a broken dream. Yet, I am expecting to make a decent profit elsewhere and so will hopefully walk away happy.

The financial crash: hmmmm, you cannot deny it. It is coming. The white hats will likely not be able to stop it, even if we get a GCR. It’s just a fact. If you disagree, I feel perhaps you don’t really know what is going on in the financial world right now. The debts are too high and the interest rates are too low.

 A crash will happen. If it is soft, then ok, great, and you will hopefully do well with the GCR too and the government may let you keep the profit less tax. If it is hard, then the country will need your money OR the banks will bail it in. You will, then, lose your profits from the RV.

 I do not know which way it will go, but it’s looking likely the banks will steal your RV profit (or the gov, or both) based on the horrific numbers in western debts and the fact the laws have been re-written to allow it. Hmmmm. Think about it.

I hope we all make a bundle of profit, change our lives, keep the money and then spend it on the poor too. That means you, me, Tony, owon and all of us. I honestly feel you should sell SOME dinar back now, diversify and also get some silver in case we hit a biblical scale meltdown in which case silver may save your life. Dinar won’t help you then.

 But if it is a soft crash, and the GCR comes soon enough, then yes dinar will increase in value but then you have a headache trying to offload it “quick” because banks will likely need time to accept them.

Hence why other currencies, again, seem better. It’s another red X against the dinar. But yes, I have a few left, and I hope to turn them into profit.

 But I probably will end up profiting elsewhere and leaving the dinar to gather dust in the loft as a memory of this whole journey until the day I die… again, because banks may not take them in time, Iraq is falling apart, they have vast overprinting, etc etc no need to keep repeating it. It’s very risky.

Don’t live on hopium and tell me to stop with reality. Instead, consider it and then slightly steer your ship into a different direction with a reduced holding of dinar and a wider net. That’s all.

Else Tony’s great site may start to become another DINAR HOPIUM site (too many of those) rather than a realistic level headed site based on fair discussion and reason.  Time for bed.

whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 13, 2014 at 6:09 pm And remember, while many are all in with dinar, you know better to spread it around for a better chance at some stable gain. Not many guru sites are sharing what we have been fortunate to know, right from those who know it.

I don’t think that is being negative, really. It’s being prudent to act on advice that is well known to be from someone who is in a position to know it. Just because the dinar is reported to be in an awkward way does not make reporting such “negative”.


White Hats Fact Check #122 Q & A With Comments Updated

June13 - June 17 Part 2

Texian says:        June 13, 2014 at 7:21 pm  Gazza…You’re not “bad” at all. Many of us have despondent days when we see the suffering of so many everywhere we look. You have been wise to diversify which is the first investment principle according to my smarty pants son-in-law with Economics PhD.

All eggs in same basket is never a good idea. From what I can tell none of us here “in the public sector” know much about this scenario so we have to rely on trial and error method.

Hopefully we’ll all get some of it right by keeping ears/eyes open!

Andrew says:     June 14, 2014 at 12:46 am  I like JC Collins’ take on the Iraq situation, and post it as it sheds light on the strategic situation, that the cabal is desperate and that its death is therefore underway.

 I doubt that anything major will occur and that the US sponsored ISIS will be brought under control with the help of Iran. It’s the cabal laying down fire as they are forced to retreat IMO. What’s the bet US involvement in ISIS will be leaked??


whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 14, 2014 at 1:14 pm  All delays lead to Bush.

Terry601 says:   June 14, 2014 at 1:44 pm  Tony,  All delays may lead to Bush but he can’t hold this up by himself. He is no longer in a position of authority so his instructions have to be followed by someone else.

It seems OWoN is trying to pressure others to do what is right. Bush will never change, but maybe some of his accomplices will realize they have more to fear than just Bush.

If our economy fails because of Stumpf’s decision to follow Bush’s instructions, hopefully the people will hold him and others accountable.

One question, when you speak of “the event”, are you speaking of the release of the WGS or the RV of a particular currency? I thought they were related, but after reading OWoN, I am not sure.

whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 14, 2014 at 2:18 pm I refer to the entire thing as “the event”. The moment we see the first signs to the process, it all should follow.

Loyd says:           June 14, 2014 at 2:07 pm  I agree Tony ,yes that bunch is evil but something tells me he is a front man for the true controllers,albeit a front man that really enjoys his job.

I was watching a golf tourn on tv about three weeks ago and course the network was pumping up how great he is then they showed a picture of him setting next to the CEO of the company sponsoring the event and he had deer in the headlights look on his face like what the he’ll is going on and the bush next to him looked to be old veido placed next to the CEO.strange things going on prolbly going to get stranger pretty exciting time to be alive I think.

Herbert says:      June 14, 2014 at 10:18 am  Hope this finds everyone well   Just would like to say Praise GOD for all of our Fathers and hope the have a blessed weekend with thier families. Take this time and hug your dad and tell him you love him and how much he means to you.

 My earthly dad has passed on and I miss him daily and time with flew bye however GOD the FATHER is always with me every moment leading me and protecting me and loving me and saying you are always going to be my child and I will never for sake you.


rockville2 says:  June 14, 2014 at 1:51 pm  Hello Tony :  In response to a question to Canauzzie regarding the validity of the FREEDOM program, the following is the response I received:-


To Me  Today at 1:11 PM

It’s Broker backed fantasy and won’t happen. Nobody is throwing an unearned ticket to ride for life to the masses. Won’t happen. Hype and dreamland.  Sorry but that is the reality. We wish it were not so.


Does your contact agree with this assessment ? What more can you add to this ? Thank you.

whitehatauxiliaries says:  June 14, 2014 at 2:03 pm  Hi, It would help me if you post the link. Thank you.

Texian says:        June 14, 2014 at 3:15 pm  What is the FREEDOM program that you refer to that isn’t happening? Every day there’s more that I learn I don’t know or have never heard of about “the Event.”

whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 14, 2014 at 3:39 pm  Freedom was a private, invitation only program last offered in 2002. It is classified as a “Prosperity Program” and is anticipated to be disbursed when the WGS is released.  Thank you.

rockville2 says:  June 14, 2014 at 2:17 pm  How can a link be posted to a question and response that was sent completed in email ?

whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 14, 2014 at 3:36 pm  I see.  My reply to this is, first, the Freedom Program was a private, limited, invitation only arrangement last offered in 2002. It was not “for the masses”. The number of people was very small overall.

Secondly, our WH contact confirmed that “prosperity programs” are on the lists to be paid. Why would such a thing be on their lists if it was “never going to happen”?

Do these people not know what their own lists should contain that is viable vs. what is not? How can they even list such a thing if it is “fantasy”? MTN programs are very real, and that is what Freedom was based on. Bush and his minions stopped the payouts.

I am thinking there is a big disconnect in understanding here. As a member of Freedom I have done some digging and it is not anything near being described as “unearned fantasy for the masses”. Masses? Not even close. It was very limited. We will see how all this plays out very soon.  Thank you.

Keezy says:         June 15, 2014 at 4:09 am  Aren’t the FREEDOM packages derived or funded by the FARM CLAIMS?

whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 15, 2014 at 12:22 pm  Nope

ming says:          June 15, 2014 at 3:23 amare you still taking to your WH contact? or are you just waiting like us till this “event” starts?  thanks!

whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 15, 2014 at 12:24 pm  Hello,  I can contact him any time. We are waiting, but will post anything important should it be necessary.

Gazza says:         June 15, 2014 at 9:54 am  Tony  Have you any thoughts about the price of gold on the day the GCR/RV is announced? Obviously gold is priced generally in USD (of course that is likely to change in the future but it remains for now) and I keep hearing the USD will lose around 30% overnight in the RV.

If so, 30% in relation to …. what? I heard Jim Willy say the same thing in a recent interview; you can’t just say a currency will lose/gain you have to say in relation to something, and he thinks gold. So the USD falling 30% won’t be against, say, the GBP as the GBP will likely fall too… and again, I ask… against….?? Gold I guess?

If so, then are we believing gold will jump overnight, literally, to a new fair value upon the RV/GCR announcement, quite high above where it is now? No steady climb but just a sudden RV of gold literally in the blink of an eye?   Thank you!

whitehatauxiliaries says:               June 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm  Hello,  I am not a qualified gold analyst, but I would encourage you to follow Dr. Willie’s advice on gold as he is qualified to speak on such.

Personally, if you keep about 10-15% of your portfolio in a well diversified metals position, you should be very safe. Adjust to your tastes and position.

I have not been told that gold and silver will “jump” over night. I would suggest a moderate approach, never heavy in any one sector.  Thank you!

Biff says:             June 15, 2014 at 12:43 pm  I’ve never picked a GCR date before; however, I have to imagine the best window is between now and July 1st due to the ISX launch and the FATCA deadline. Just a thought.

Gazza says:         June 16, 2014 at 12:27 am  What is all the controversy around this FATCA? I admit it has kind of passed me by somewhat. How would this speed up/affect the gcr?

Also, i still maintain gold would have to jump overnight if the USD was cut down overnight. Cant see how it couldnt be…

No Dinar says:   June 16, 2014 at 2:04 pm  The FATCA controversy is that the US is requiring FOREIGN financial institutions to report transactions of US citizens to the IRS for tax purposes. Institutions may be required to withhold and remit the taxes as well.

 Huge headache and some institutions will avoid dealing with US accounts and the US dollar altogether. As an example, Banamex in Mexico is closing all of their US accounts. As other countries scramble for tax receipts FATCA may be adopted globally as GATCA if it survives the coming mess. Here is a good article:


Gazza says:         June 16, 2014 at 3:19 pm  Thanks  So then FATCA may lead to another huge blow for the dollar and bring on the quicker demise?

How many more blows can this currency take before it’s finally officially taken off reserve status… or… until other countries finally see it dying a death and run away fully?

Joe B says:          June 17, 2014 at 5:54 am  http://www.vox.com/2014/6/17/5795000/reasons-the-fed-should-reconsider-taper. Apparently, not everyone feels the same about QE.

David says:         June 17, 2014 at 8:34 am   Still wondering why this is taking is long? Here’s the BIG PICTURE outline of what we need to overcome, in order to re-balance and stabilize the global economy:

-$1,280,000,000,000 – Most people are really surprised when they hear this number. Right now, there is only 1.28 trillion dollars worth of U.S. currency floating around out there.

-$17,555,165,805,212.27 – This is the size of the U.S. national debt. It has grown by more than 10 trillion dollars over the past ten years.

-$32,000,000,000,000 – This is the total amount of money that the global elite have stashed in offshore banks (that we know about).

-$48,611,684,000,000 – This is the total exposure that Goldman Sachs has to derivatives contracts.

-$59,398,590,000,000 – This is the total amount of debt (government, corporate, consumer, etc.) in the U.S. financial system. 40 years ago, this number was just a little bit above 2 trillion dollars.

-$70,088,625,000,000 – This is the total exposure that JPMorgan Chase has to derivatives contracts.

-$71,830,000,000,000 – This is the approximate size of the GDP of the entire world.

-$75,000,000,000,000 – This is approximately the total exposure that German banking giant Deutsche Bank has in derivatives contracts.

-$100,000,000,000,000 – This is the total amount of government debt in the entire world. This amount has grown by $30 trillion just since mid-2007.

-$223,300,000,000,000 – This is the approximate size of the total amount of debt in the entire world.

-$236,637,271,000,000 – According to the U.S. government, this is the total exposure that the top 25 banks in the United States have to derivatives contracts. But those banks only have total assets of about 9.4 trillion dollars combined. In other words, the exposure of our largest banks to derivatives outweighs their total assets by a ratio of about 25 to 1.

-$710,000,000,000,000 to $1,500,000,000,000,000 – The estimates of the total notional value of all global derivatives contracts generally fall within this range. At the high end of the range, the ratio of derivatives exposure to global GDP is about 21 to 1.  Party on!


@THE_TNT_TEAM: Congrats Iraq- We understand you completed all the docs and processes required for the RV. #wearethepeople

 @THE_TNT_TEAM: Looking forward to the growth and success of your country! #wearethepeople



[Silvereagle7] Just got a phone call from a close friend, said he was a realestate office today and a regular comes in and started talking and shows a VNN note, said that he was informed that it was going this weekend at $1.17. Don't know where he got his info from so treat as rumor, but praying he is right.

[Duguid] Silvereagle7 : That's as good as what we've been getting for a long time.....I'm going with it !....Thank you......

[hoot2602] Silvereagle7 THat's about a reliable source as any of the others

 [Silvereagle7] hoot2602 Found out that there are some very big currency holders in this small town, and some are government, blew my mind. lol

 [hoot2602] Silvereagle7 That would be fabulous to find a source in your own backyard and, surprise, it was accurate

akalurker]   Markz:  If I have to disappear for more than a day you all should just start partying. (Why do you have to disappear?) Once this passes a certain point I am certain that intel people will be ‘asked’ to be ABSOLUTELY SILENT while it finishes out. They may even close all the chatrooms.- MARKZ

[sandytob] akalurker yes, but nobody else has disappeared...they are all still posting and no chatrooms have closed...so I don't think this applies



New Iraq PM is announced.. Confirmed


6-19-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar    The Sunni rebellion is the same. In Mosul a Sunni city supposedly held by the the insurgents...People are coming and going crossing two check points. No shots being fired. No fighting. Life has pretty much returned to normal for Mosul.  This my friends is a CIA operation pure and simple the purpose of which is to remove Malki under the guise that terrorists are over running the country The net result, the map of Iraq has been redrawn. Things that would have never been done through negotiation with Maliki's government are now corrected.  [post 4 of 4]

6-19-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar 
   So what's really going on? The Kurds have recaptured what was the Kurdish territory...Maliki has occupied this Kurdish city since the beginning of his reign with the Iraqi army...This is the major city in the disputed territories rich in oil and is the fundamental reason for the fight over the disputed territories (article 140). The Iraqi army that was stationed in Kurkut that was there to "defend it", just dropped there weapons a fled. The big question is, who ordered the Iraqi army that was there to defend Kurkuk to lay down there weapons a leave? Simple answer. It was the CIA. Today the issue of article 140 has been resolved.   [post 3 of 4....stay tuned]

6-19-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar 
   The US does not want to be seen supporting the Maliki government, so you will not see any help until the new government finally announces itself.  So look for Tuesday to see this new government meeting, and look to Friday to see it come together enough to be announced to the world. Maybe sooner.They want everything to be done constitutionally. No short cuts. No mistakes. Follow the constitution. They want to make sure there is no SOL or wiggle room for Maliki or any legitimate challenge.  [post 2 of 4....stay tuned]

6-19-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar
    People in dinar land are scared that their investment has gone in the dumpster. I don't want you to think what you are witnessing in Iraq is total chaos or anything close to that.  In the beginning this was never a take over by the ISIS....this is not what you are seeing in our press. This is not and has not been an insurgency of terrorists...The Obama administration is trying to remove Maliki.  Maliki was strongly advised to leave two days ago. To date he has not heeded that advice.  Maliki just announced today that the elections are now on hold. Nothing could be more further from the truth. Saleh Mutlag followed up in an article with a call to hold the first parliamentary meeting this coming week stating that they will elect a President and his deputies followed shortly by the announcement of the PM position.  [post 1 of 4....stay tuned]

6-19-2014   Intel Guru Frank26   

6-19-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   "A source familiar with the Presidency of the Republic, on Wednesday that Vice President Khodair al will call the new parliament to hold its first session next Tuesday."   it looks like they have moved it up a WEEK -- HUGE NEWS they have so much planned and they have moving alot up in the past week.

6-19-2014   Newshound Guru Stryker
   Article:   "Lawmakers, allies reportedly press White House to withdraw support for Iraqi PM"   Article quotes:  "The Wall Street Journal reports that U.S. officials have indicated their desire for Iraq's political parties to form a new government without Maliki that would comprise representatives of the country's Sunni and Kurdish communities."   "The Shiite Maliki's party received the most votes in Iraq's parliamentary election this past April, but it did not receive enough to form a majority government. Maliki's efforts to find partners in a coalition government have so far been in vain."  FINALLY THE U.S. MEDIA STARTS REPORTING THE REAL NEWS IN IRAQ...IT TOOK YOU GUYS LONG ENOUGH...

6-19-2014   Newshound Guru Enorrste
   ...the CBI continues on its merry path toward moving from Article 14 to Article 8, as is evidenced by Turki’s statement yesterday that he is preparing to bring the dinar to the world stage.  Maliki is using this "crisis" to get exactly what he wants:  a continuation of his role as PM.  He will promise these people anything they want, and then do whatever he wants afterwards.  That has always been his modus operandi.  The "crisis" will be shown to be his ticket to a third term.  [post 2 of 2]

6-19-2014   Newshound Guru Enorrste
   Article:  "Iraq To Be Partitioned Into Three Independent States?   I just don't think that a partition is even on the table at this time.  What is on the table is to solve the insurgency crisis.  You don't have to partition the country to do that. The entire idea of a 3 state or 3 country solution is “pie in the sky” talk.   It will not happen...there is no majority will for this to happen. That in itself is necessary.   Maliki receives no benefit at all from a breakup of his country.  ...things like the breaking up of a country into 3 parts is not easy.   In Yugoslavia it tooks years and UN intervention before anything was accomplished.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

6-19-2014   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG
  White House calling for Maliki's removal today.   [Removal, as in voluntary or  involuntary?]  involuntary.  [when are they looking to force him out?]  Sounds like soon.  [Do u think they will press charges against him?]  The UN will - I am fairly certain.  [So, if M is forced out in the next day or so, how long afterwards till the CBI decided to RV?]  they just said early 2015, Maliki inner circle says before Aug - I don't think there are any hard answers just yet.  [Will Turki even be there next year? I highly doubt it.  [Maybe this is the smoke they said would come right before the rv?]   not impossible. 


Stagealpha forum:

VINMAN:Media/government manipulation and misdirection has not stopped.
GCR switched ON

DENNIS B. DRAKE:RV Done go to the Banks tomorrow to Cash out