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Friday, May 16, 2014

BIG SKY DJ POST FROM TNT FORUM: "SOMETHING TO CONFIRM WHAT TONY HAS SAID", 17 MAY

I heard from a friend out of country 1 hour ago that the Dong and Dinar are both showing on bank screens in that country with exchange rates very close to what Tony said they would be.  Sorry, won't give specifics, but I trust this person implicitly.

OKIE TWEET TONIGHT AT 8:44 PM EST, 16 MAY

Okie_Oil_Man: ALL I KNOW IS WE ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THIS COMING TO FRUITION. THE TRADERS ARE ALREADY TRADING THE DINAR.
#wearethepeople

OKIEOILMAN SHORT POST, 16 MAY

.okieoilman] FROM SOURCES--

WITH THE VAST AMOUNTS OF TRADING INTER-BANK AND FOREX WITH NUMEROUS CURRIENCIES IT IS A STRONG INDICATOR OF FORTHCOMING EVENTS. WITH P.O.#13303 EXPIRATION DATE OF 5-22-14 TO COMPLY WITH OUR OPPORTUNITY,  IT WOULD FOLLOW THE 21ST OR THE 22ND OF MAY WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT TIME FOR THE R/V TO OCCUR.
THIS ADDITIONAL TIME WILL ALSO FIT INTO THE DISPENSING OF THE NEW U.S.T. DOLLAR.------- BLESSINGS GALORE

[..okieoilman] CLARIFICATION--THE R/V CAN OCCUR ANYTIME UP UNTIL THAT DATE------BLESSINGS GALORE

INCOGNITO POST FROM STAGE3ALPHA FORUM, 16 MAY

Stage3Alpha: 

From a Friend...

Posted by Incognito on May 16, 2014 at 11:57am

The new treasury notes have already been released here in southwestern Ontario Canada. I live only 2 hrs east of Detroit - I was at my little credit union {consisting of 6 employees} and saw for myself the new hundreds that the teller was counting.

I asked her if it was the new UST note and she said yes, so I was able to see it and EVEN TOUCH IT.

I asked how long have they been out and she told me the beginning of this past week, but have had them in the vault for some time just not allowed to distribute them until they got the go ahead, which was this week. So I'm confused as to why you all down there in the USA don't have them in circulation yet.

TNT CHAT WITH WETHRIN, 16 MAY

from Wethrin in TNT Chat

YALL BEST BELIEVE! YOU ARE IN THE BEST PLACE EVER. HUGE WONDERFUL PROGRESS, AND NO HAS NADA TO DO WITH OL JACKIE BOY!

he says something happened at the close of day with the hedge funds

In 46 yrs working in this market, he says the world is changing today.


He advises a normal day trade for any major currency is 50,000 trades, Today they averaged 350,000 trades by 10 am central time.

They can not in any shape, form, or fashion, keep up today. They said more money movement by 11am today than in any other full week in the history of the forex.

MUST HAVE BEEN WHAT HAD RAY SO EXCITED LAST NIGHT

TNT CONFERENCE CALL NOTES, PART.1, 16 MAY

TNT Call 16-May-2014 Notes
Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Friday, May 16, 2014.  Mr. Adonis is here, still sweating and shining all over the place... <laughter> We’re going to go through a couple of things quickly.  We are recording this…
We’ll have to be quick because there is another announcement/call at 2pm.  DC will explain this. 
There is a blog called #wearethepeople; it is not us, needless to say, it’s someone using our name for their own agenda.  It has nothing to do with TNT, Tony, DC or Pam. We are not responsible for anything that happens there!
There is also a fake twitter site.  If it’s not OUR twitter site -- @THE_TNT_TEAM – then ignore or block what they are saying because it’s Baghdad Invest or someone similar. They are sending out tweets that say the RV has occurred and call these numbers. I can just program my phone to ignore everyone but the people in my contact list.  It doesn’t harm me but it’s getting people over-excited, so please report them to Twitter.  They are just stupid like that.
Also, I want you to be aware that there are people advertising on OUR site that they can get you $4 for your dinar if you send them in, that they have a contract with the UST.  I would stay away from them as far as you can be when this thing happens.  Don’t come on our site and try to get people hooked up with your shenanigans!  Don’t use our site and our influence to try to do something you cannot do.
DC, let’s tell everyone where we are, and what happened yesterday, and what they can expect in the next hour…
DC:  Bottom line starts on Wednesday. WE didn’t have the call because things were extremely sensitive and we were asked by someone highly influential;  we were happy to oblige because of his level.  There were some folks telling us to burn the house down, and because some of the things we confirmed were incendiary, we went back to them, they asked us to hold on a little longer, and life is good.
The US finally agreed to accept the rate after a LOT of back and forth. It was put back in Iraq’s hands.  CBI and Maliki wanted to do some last minute announcements, and they did some grandstanding that took up most of yesterday.  Now, today, live rates have been popping up through the world since yesterday morning, even down to the teller screens in different parts of the world.  They have been turning on and off all afternoon and evening. Through this morning, we have had folks checking in many different countries, and some have seen the rates at the CBI, at the bank level, and occasionally at the teller level.
There have been announcements in Iraq but there have been too many in the past, and people want them to stop talking and get it done.  They announced in the  mosques that they were opening the banks at 6 to allow folks to do some exchanges and for lower denominations to get out.  That has been successful, although it is stopped for the date because it’s late there. One friend did exchange himself in Baghdad, and others have reported currency at a higher rate.
Tony:  Basically, yesterday evening when we did the call, everybody had agreed.  The asked Maliki to do some things.  He was grandstanding but did send the last few things to parliament, and it was turned over to CBI yesterday. We thought the IMF would take over form there and get it going, but they have handed it over to the CBI who is now coordinating how this is getting out.  There have been reports in different countries, and in the US, some banks actually had it live at the teller level.  We know that yesterday it was trading on forex on a whole different level – they were excited at the sheer level of trading that occurred yesterday.  We have verified this in four or five different levels.  We know the new rates.  We cannot affect things now because what’s done is done.  We know they were at $3.71, then we heard they want to go out at $3.23 and go up from there. We don’t’ see how they can backtrack on that.  DC’s guy got offered $3.78 at a particular bank in another country, and that was this morning.  That was a direct connection there, that he actually walked in and did that.
We heard about all this trading, although we couldn’t see it at the bottom level of forex. You had to be at a certain level. They had people come in, buy dinar, offer $4 and they were to be paid within 30 days.  If it is not live in 30 days, they will pay it out themselves.  Also, their people can borrow money on that contract, as a security blanket.  What this did was to prime the market, so that when the announcement is made, they are getting buyers interested.  We are the sellers.  They started out at four dollars, and yesterday evening it was over seven dollars.
We’ve heard that this is being stalled because the government doesn’t want us to have all this money.  You might think that they are running it up, and we’ll get it as it comes down.  Another thing we have heard is that the admin recognizes we have suffered through this, and now they are trying to get us a higher rate.  If they actually push it up to seven dollars or higher, they will get more than they expected to get. The people will run to the bank because you are doubling what you would have got, in a shorter period, and everyone is happy.  Both sides work for us, no matter what the original intention.
I am not a financial adviser, but I do hear the rate will go up to a certain level, but that would be too risky for most.  This is a way of guaranteeing a reasonable rate, so I look at it as a good thing.  Again, everyone has signed off, it is in the CBI’s hands to release it.  We have heard of a day, time and minute, but it’s hard to believe because they have been pushing to get this done. I don’t see a reason for delay, as in days from now rather than hours from now.
President Obama, VP Biden and Jack Lew are going on television in 40 minutes to make an press announcement. 
DC:  Do we believe the announcement is about the RV? I have no idea.  They know that there will be the gentlemen there, and so we know it will be serious business, but that is all that we know.
Tony: We don’t know what it’s about, though we do know where we’re at. Everything has been finalized at this point and it’s been handed back to the CBI. That’s where we are, and we will be listening to that announcement and hoping it’s what we want.
520 caller:  I’m alive and grateful! [appreciation]  We are the people!
Tony:  We appreciate it.  I am glad you addressed the patient people, not the idiots. 
520 caller:  I am technically challenged; can you keep my number?
Tony:  So long as you stay on the Twitter list and also the tntsuperfantastic.com (or .net or .info) site, we’ll stay in contact.
303 caller:  So… if there is a seven dollar rate, do we still need the 800 numbers?
Tony:  This higher rate was on forex. The bank is making money on every trade, whether you make money or not, so there was trillions being made with all those trades.  Also, they are creating a pipeline, so that there is someone on the buying side when we sell our dinar. In order to create confidence in what was going on, they had to guarantee them those higher rates, which works for them.  That means that they will push out even more when we go into the banks to sell.  It doesn’t do anything directly for us and our rate;  we are not getting guarantees.  The contract rates are still there for us.  We already know what the rates are.  They only gave those guarantees to certain people.
Caller:  How can they guarantee that higher rate?  Someone has to pay for it!
Tony:  Have you ever heard that the US rate is over 70 dollars?   Then you know where they are coming up with the $8 rate.  If they can offer us a rate of $30, they can certainly offer these others $8. They are establishing a base for us to do the exchange.  I am ready to go, just don’t know when.
313 caller:  Hopefully we’ll be getting those 800 numbers today or this weekend?
Tony:  That’s what I’m hoping, too!
Caller:  I didn’t want to go on Twitter for information because I get all these tweets on my phone, and there is so much crap on that that I won’t mess with any of that.  I just want to make sure I go on the website so that I can have the vacation of a lifetime this summer.
Tony:  As soon as we put up a new Twitter account and new websites, we’ll just talk about how to make money from our money.
415 caller:  Are there still groups of people trying to put a stop to this, even after the US has signed off?
DC:  I think some people will argue this until the day they die, but most of the bosses have let go of their ferocity.
Caller:  Are the ones blocking this the same ones pushing for this in early December?
DC: I’m going to step away from that. I’m not trying to avoid the question, but everyone seems to be acting great and I’m not going to make anyone mad right now!
404 caller:  What time should we expect your secondary call tonight?
Tony:  I don’t know.  I would like nothing better than to do one in 15 minutes.  I just know where we are – everyone says we’re on plate, they opened the bank this morning, they are handing out the lower denoms again, and it has even been live on the teller screens in one state in the US.  We don’t’ know if it’s the system, how they are breaking it out.
Caller:  How much lead time can you give us on your meet-and-greet in Atlanta?
Tony:  I want this to get done today and hope to be in Atlanta on Monday, but that is Ray’s birthday, and he wants to be in Cancun!  Also there are 1,200 people in Atlanta, and we have to find a location and let those people know the details.  So it might take a few days, but Atlanta will be first, okay?
Even so, you guys have to go in the forum, on Twitter, and tell the mods you want them to be there!  You tell Pam, Ray, and all the Mods that you want them to be there, so you can meet them.
903 caller:  Are you bruised?
Tony:  What?  I’m ready for this to happen;  let’s hope it does!
503 caller:  I’m waiting here in PA for the RV, with my brother;  the sun is shining…
Tony:  It would be a great day for an RV, eh?
Caller:  Earlier DC was explaining how Iraq is going paper-free;  is that why there are fewer lower denominations?
DC: They have threatened people who are taking pictures because they don’t want the Americans to know.  We do know they exist, but are respecting their wish for them not to go public.  They are going to a more electronic system;  they have great technology, and will have a lot less credit card fraud and such because of these new systems.  They are trying to get out of paper currency because electronic funds are easier to track and harder to counterfeit.
Caller:  have you received your invitation to the Bilderburg meeting in Copenhagen, to rub shoulders with the Rothschilds?
Tony: Only if that invitation doesn’t have a target on the back…
Caller:  My informants tell me this is a super-fantastic day…
Tony:  Just got a text saying it went live in Germany after the banks closed.  If anyone is on the call from Germany, can you confirm that, please?  Send it to Pam real quick.
505 caller:  Did they make accommodation for the reserves?
Tony:  I believe they do have something in line for reserves.
Caller:  Will they allow some time for us to exchange those reserves?
Tony:  I understand you make your appointment with the 800 number, tell them your reserves, and you will then have a second appointment.
Caller:  Are there limits on the amounts?
Tony:  Not that I have heard. Whether they’re funning the rate out high or it’s just coming out high, either way it stops them from double and triple dipping.  I don’t see any reason for us not being at the bank right now, unless I find out something.
Caller:  My wife and daughter go to sleep listening to your voice on the recorded call.  Can you give a shout out for Stacie?  We say, “If it ain’t from Tony, you know it’s phony!” 
DC:  If she has nightmares because of us, I’ll feel real guilty!  <laughter>
617 caller:  That speech you’re expecting, do you know what channel it’s on?
Tony:  We’re not even supposed to know about that announcement, so I have no idea what channel.  They may not have it now we’ve announced it!
830 caller:  You were talking about them expecting this in a few days;  can you clarify that?
Tony: We heard one part of the info… it’s past Monday, but it doesn’t make sense to me after all the pressure to get this done.  Now they’re going to wait another week?
DC:  It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, especially with the propensity to screw things up with time. That was just from one source, uncorroborated. Everything else points to this being done NOW, as in Germany and the other countries.
Caller:  Do they expect the dong to go with this, too?
DC:  It was on and off for a long time, but now it’s back on.
Caller: You’re anticipating a strong rate on the dinar, right?
Tony:  That is what we are anticipating. We don’t’ have all the answers, all we’re doing is putting the info together, presenting it to you and saying why it makes sense to us.  It all works out for us.  DC and I will keep doing the calls if they want us to, and until I have to sign my NDA.  If they are not right on it, DC and I will do our own call.  If I have to sign an NDA, I will tell you what they think.
281 caller:  Can I buy 275 Ugandan widows new clothes and shoes next month?  And the same for the 360 orphans we support year-round?
Tony: We cannot guarantee you anything, but what we are hearing says “Yes, you will”.
Caller: We are going on a cruise tomorrow.  Should I upgrade and bring my mother-in-law along?
Tony:  Does taking your mother-in-law feel like an upgrade?
Caller:  No, I meant bring my MONEY. <laughter>
Tony:  Just do what you think it safe.  WE are in a good situation.
DC:  I think things look phenomenally good.  Even the US has signed off now, and everyone wants this to get done. They have so much that points to the fact that this thing is right upon us and expected to go down now.  Whether that’s enough for you to buy a ticket for your mother-in-law…
Caller:  We need to get away by ourselves. We are supporting four churches whose buildings have been destroyed in the Philippines, and I’m gnawing at the bone to get it done. All we’re waiting on is the fulfillment of this blessing.
Tony:  There are many countries that could use our help, and many have humanitarian projects.  There are trillions of dollars going overseas to people who need it.  AND there are people on the streets in this country who also need our help, even people here in CA whose houses are burning as we speak.  We will help many overseas, just remember that we also need to spend time and money here, helping some of our own who need a blessing also. 
Caller:  Yes, we do, and yet our primary function and calling is to the nations of the world.  “The light that shines brightly at home shines brightest abroad.” I definitely do a lot of good here, too. We do need to be mindful of the people here;  there are many in need here, and we need to help them physically and spiritually.  I just want to make sure I can upgrade this trip on my cruise. Blessings to everybody on the team. Let’s go Jesus and let’s go RV!
Tony:  They say this is a closed press meeting, that Jack Lew is doing a live press conference right now on whitehouse.gov.  Pam says it is time for an announcement – oh, you meant what Jack Lew as doing?  Also, she is saying that 15,000 children need homes in Michigan alone.
Caller:  We have a lot of people in Michigan, so let me know what city that is…

TNT CONFERENCE CALL NOTES, PART.2, 16 MAY

Part 2
443 caller:  [thanks and appreciation] About two weeks ago, someone asked what you and DC will do as far as the rates are concerned.  You answered then.  Has anything changed the direction you are going?
DC:  I’m going to take the highest rate I can get, then I’m out!
407 caller:  Are all the currencies we’ve been hearing about in the first basket?
DC:  I understand all the currencies are back in the first basket now.
716 caller:  It’s a beautiful day for an RV!  NY isn’t quite as warm as California.  About the IQN and VNN – are those phrases still to be used when you go to the bank for exchange?
Tony:  So far as we know, they are.  If they are not the rates you think they should be, then ask for the other ones! 
There is some confusion on this news conference by Jack Lew or press secretary Jay Carney, but you can go to the whitehouse.gov site and see it there.
313 caller:  Is there anything you can say without creating uproar that we can hang our hats on, to know that everything is alright.  The last few times you cancelled the call, and you explained the scenario today, but…
Tony:  We were being asked to tell you some things that people thought would make you angry and that would make a difference. On the other side, they said they were trying to work it out, and it would be okay.  We just needed to have faith in that person.  We were told to do that, and asked to stand down, and I’m sure they were familiar with who was asking us to do that.  And it worked out! Everyone is happy, everyone is doing the right thing, and it all worked out.
Caller:  I’m not asking for your advice, but I have banking sources in Dubai, and I was planning to go there is things kept being delayed. Based on what you know today, am I better off staying here to make my exchange, or continue with my plans?
Tony:  I cannot advise you what to do. This is how to phrase a question that I can answer:  “If this were you, Tony, what would you do?”  That is a question I can answer.
DC:  What I would to would be to stay in-country;  everything will work itself out alright.
Caller: Do you think that would be before the 30 days Tony mentioned earlier?
DC: That was in reference to the forex loading it up so there is a lot of demand in the market.  That is not about US waiting 30 days to exchange.
Tony:  No, I said that IF it doesn’t go within 30 days, they would PAY that higher rate anyway, within 30 days.
Caller:  DC, you should be on Dancing with the Stars, because you know how to dance around the question, and give the impression that you said something but didn’t actually say anything.  I appreciate that sometimes you cannot give information as blatantly as you would like.  However, perhaps you could slow down a little, and walk us through it rather than doing the cha-cha.  That would give us at least something!  I’ve been on this ride for eight years;  people need to take a leaf out of our book. Patience is a virtue, and if you don’t have patience on this journey then you won’t have patience for dealing with it after the RV. This is a once-in-a-lifetime windfall, and if you don’t treat it like this, it could be your down-fall.  You need to treat it right.
DC:  Of all my wealthy friends, those are the wealthiest that have the most patience.
Pam:  And DC looks really good in a tutu!
954 caller:  [thanks and appreciation to the team and the Mods] We have to keep the positive attitude.  I’ve been in this a long time, and if it weren’t for you… look forward to having THE call to bless all of us.
Tony:  The Mods take care of the forum, spend all that time;  Pam will tell you to be kind to them, and she is absolutely right, and also to the members who keep things calm and in perspective. DC has great contacts but doesn’t know every detail.  I can’t make the decision, despite what people think.  We try to provide intel and understanding for you, and that part you can count on.
585 caller:  DC, you say this has now been turned over to the CBI;  didn’t they have to have already released this if it is turning up in Germany?
DC:  Our understanding is that the UST has already signed off, and life is good. We are watching this process as we speak.
Tony:  It is different from what we expected two weeks ago.
DC:  It appears that it’s being coordinated throughout the world through the central banking system. How long it’s taking and what is being switched on and off… we only found out about that this morning.
Caller:  Is this the central bank of Iraq, or all the central banks?
DC:  The CBI is talking to the other central banks, and to the Fed, IMF, etc. The CBI is talking to 4-5 systems as well as the CIX. This weekend looks really phenomenal to me.
407 caller:  Are the bank personnel sequestered yet?
Tony:  Depends on which ones you’re talking about. Bank in February when all the banks were bringing their people in every day, certain banks said that was enough.  In April, they brought their people back in. They did tell their people it wouldn’t happen until April, and then they brought their people in again. Then they sent them home until it has officially happened.  There are some people at (possibly) one bank, but the rest are not playing any more.
Caller:  DC said we should expect a 2% spread fee;  is this in  addition to the 1.4% fee from the Fed, or is this inclusive?
Tony:  I don’t know that the UST has a spread fee in there.
DC:  I’ve only heard of the 2%;  I don’t know about any UST spread fee.  It could be something we don’t know about, but I think we would have found out about that by now.
Caller:  If you had any accounts in the big four, would you be hesitant to put your exchange in those banks?
Tony:  I don’t’ think it would make any difference. When I say I’m using multiple banks, it’s about competition, and what the best deal they can offer. Different banks offer different deals depending on their special areas of interest.
Caller:  Will we be able to exchange one 25K dinar note before the appointment? Will the person need an appointment for the international rate?
Tony:  So far as we know, that is still possible, but if we are getting appointments within a day or so, then it makes much more sense to wait and get the higher contract rates.  If they just want the international rate, then they can just go to the bank.
[chitchat and joking;  Pam called DC a ‘sissy’ instead of an idiot.]
Caller: Remember what Roosevelt used to say about diplomacy?  “Walk softly and carry a big stick.”  That what you did, and we appreciate it.
770 caller:  It sounds like we should be super-fantastic today.  You guys believe that this is imminent, correct?  What does it mean that the UST is signed off? Does that mean they are out of it, and now we are waiting for the CBI to pull the trigger?
DC: The UST is now in a support role rather than a blocking way.  They finally said, “Okay, we agree with the latest round of negotiations” and that they will not attempt to stop it again. 
Caller:  One of these days they’ve got to let it go.  I have concern about putting my money in the US banking system because of the government’s ability to go into my account and take money from it.
Tony:  I’m going to cash out and put my money in the bank because I don’t think we as dinarians will feel the effect of the dollar going down and I don’t’ think the banks will take it.  Where else can you put your money?  If you put it in stocks and such, the money is still in the bank. Unless you stuff your mattress or bury it in the back yard, your money will be at risk.
DC:  I think there is a concern in having it in only one bank, so I’ll spread mine throughout the banking system including international banks.  It’s good to have metals as well, but in the grand scheme of things, you have to put your money in a bank.  You can open accounts in many international banks here in the US.  Walk into any international bank, look at the ratings, get to know the ones you like… Banking is personal, and you need to get along with your banker.  If you don’t, change your bank or your banker!
319 caller:  [thanks and appreciation]
321 caller:  Went through the books and the other great information…what are you thoughts about becoming ‘patriotic hitmen’ through our electoral system in November?  I’m talking about using the system, not about violence, of course.
Tony:  You’re the guy they are scared of, and why they are having conflict letting us in on this blessing.  We might discuss this after this happens, not before.
504 caller:  Is there anything else that could push this back a couple or three months?
DC:  I think it’s going to be the next few days, 95-99% chance this will get done, maybe 4% of it getting delayed again. Yes, it could get screwed up, but there has been so much effort gone into this, so really it’s 99% there.  I have to go – hope this is the last call before the RV, so have a great day!
602 caller:  It’s 105 degrees in sunny Phoenix!  Just wanted to say thanks.
214 caller:  So basically to clarify when this RI is out and back to an RV, is that correct?
Tony: Part of the discussion since the RI, was that no one believed Maliki would do it, then they didn’t want that rate, and especially they didn’t’ want people to exchange their dinar and then buy lots more of the other currencies. That is what they wanted to wait so that the RI and RV can go through together. Otherwise we would all be trillionaires rather than billionaires.  You can’t hand out billions and trillions of dollars to everyone and keep society the way it’s supposed to be.  Everything had to be recalculated, and that’s why people were holding back. The numbers have been changed again, some as a gift and some as a fine, so things are done and we are just sitting here waiting.
Caller:  that earlier caller needs to book his mother-in-law on a trip, just on a different boat! Everyone, remember to pay it forward;  remember there are other people out there and it’s really about them as well. 
936:  Has anything changed in the banking process?
Tony:  We haven’t gotten the package yet, but as far as I know it’s the same and the banks are ready to go!
Caller:  If the announcement today is about the RV, how long will that take to filter down?
Tony:  I don’t know, because I don’t know that it has been announced.  I don’t’ even know if it is required, what with it coming up in Germany after the banks closed.  That was the plan for last Friday here.  I hope they would give us the information a few hours in advance so that I would at least know what we are talking about before making the announcement, but they may release it all at the same time.  We’ll give you the information as soon as we know. 
Tony:  I have a text… A few minutes ago, Karney congratulated Iraq for moving forward – maybe that is it.  I hope so.
Caller:  If you get the package and take a couple of hours to review it, will you put out a tweet to let us know a few hours in advance.
Tony:  If allowed, I will tweet the 800 numbers, and when to expect the information call. Those ready to jump can then call immediately.  We will post the numbers on all the sites and the forum as well as Twitter.  We have heard they want people in the bank within two hours, so…
301 caller:  There will be multiple rates for the contracts… for the noncontract rates, too?
Tony:  There are three rates:  China rate, US rate and international rate. 
Caller:  You only get a contract for signing an NDA?
Tony:  Yes, if that is the rate you take…
281 caller:  If we prepare a gift letter for every person we give dinar;  does that apply to cash as well as dinar?
Tony:  That’s for if they are going to exchange.  If you give them the cash, they can just exchange it themselves. You can give a gift of up to $14,000 per person per year, and you can just right them a check.  The gift letter is for the foreign currencies so that YOU don’t have to pay tax on the PRE-exchange value of that currency.
Yes, we will have meetings in various places, and you can sign up on the new sites.
409 caller:  Earlier you said about IQN, and how the forex is using the numbers going back and forth.  Has forex said anything about the VNN rates?
Tony:  They say the VNN Is over two dollars at this point.  We have received that intel from several sources.  I don’t know if those rates are staying there or not.
Caller:  I’m lifting Pam from under the bus… everyone have a good day!
425 caller:  Breathe.  Breathe.  In and out, nice and calm. I am truly excited as the call goes on.  I’m sure others on the calls have kids who were initially excited, then they lost faith because it’s been taking so long.  I’ve had to make adjustments in how they live, and buying bit by bit, and with reserves as well.  The only thing I haven’t decided is whether to hire a private plane or to show up in a limo with a fur coat and cigarette holder, just to show my kids this wasn’t a joke!
Tony:  They laugh now, but we get to laugh forever, unlike those who sold their dinar back when they lost faith.  My kids don’t want to talk about it either. Mind you, they have their own dinar, they just don’t want to discuss it.  My wife is the same, and some of my friends, too.  They think I’m crazy!  But soon it will be that I’m crazy like a fox.  I could have gone in a lot of different directions, but I sacrificed so that I could enjoy the rest of my life, and so that the next five generations of my family can enjoy life.  They will look at the whole situation and learn a lesson they can apply when they take this gift you are giving them, and make it multiply.  They will see that they need to look longer term, like those of us who believed in this. We are teaching them a life lesson, that’s how I look at it.
Caller:  [thanks and appreciation]  I hope we never have to get on a conference call again!
Tony:  Me, too!  Pam is telling me TIME. Thank you, transcribers;  to our mods, thank you for being there for the people and keeping control of the room.  Ray, thanks for doing Open Mike;  Pam, you can crawl out from under the short bus now.
Pam:  Thank you, Renfrow brothers, for throwing me under the bus, and thanks everyone else for getting me out.
Ray:  I truly believe this is the end;  I’ll miss a lot of you.
Tony:  I didn’t get to hear the conference but he did congratulate Iraq and maybe that’s what we are waiting for.  I’m going to be positive and say we’re on our way. Be ready!  I would like to cancel the rest of my day to do these phone calls. Enjoy the rest of your day!

TEXASMOG POST FROM TNT FORUM: "YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHEN TRADES AT THE NEW RATES HAVE HAPPENED", 16 MAY


Brought this over from Okie Oil Man's web site thought you guys might like this.

Ive done some snooping through the forex today and found you can actually see when trades at the new rates have happened. the IQD has been traded for the GBP (pound) at over 2 pounds per dinar. This also applies to the VND showing trades around $0.70 per VND. Seems like we are really almost there. Dont know how much longer the US can keep this quiet.

IRAQ DINAR & DONG VIETNAM POST FROM FACE PAGE: "MONETARY CHANGE IN OR BEFORE JULY 2014", 16 MAY

Monetary Change In Or Before July 2014!

1. 60 day window still intact.

2. Iraq wants in GCC but not at 1166 per US dollar with a common currency.

3. They will raise the value first and then seek full membership in GCC.

4. Monetary change in or before July still believable
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5. The Ministry of Finance said, it would not seek renewal of American protection to Iraqi funds deposited in their banks; They will assume responsibility.

6. This report tells us: the coverage of funds will not be extended and Iraq wants the globe to have confidence in the country and their ability to maintain their own funds understandably.
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The Ministry of Finance said, it would not seek renewal of American protection to Iraqi funds deposited in their banks; They will assume responsibility.
This report tells us: the coverage of funds will not be extended and Iraq wants the globe to have confidence in the country and their ability to maintain their own funds understandably.
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Another thought is it has nothing to do with the currency and more to do with the relations of the banks and the CBI. It also could be related to 13303. That maybe the World Bank does not agree with the release of the funds and ending of protection. And if the CBI goes forward with this, it will put Iraq’s money at risk and thus collapsing the economy. This may be nothing more than the WB asking the GOI to ask the CBI to ask for another year of protection of funds.
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[if their funds are no longer protected by the USA...can they be sued?] THEY WILL BE SUED BY THE COUNTRIES THAT THEY OWE THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE PARIS AGREEMENT. FROM A VALUED SOURCE FROM WASHINGTON…THESE COUNTRIES MET IN WASHINGTON THREE WEEKS AGO WITH THE IMF AND REPS FROM THE CBI STATING THEY WANT THEIR MONEY NOW (REVALUED). THESE COUNTRIES GOT PISSED WHEN THE PARIS GROUP WHERE PAID 90 BILLIO...N A FEW WEEKS AGO AND THEY WHERE NOT PAID ANYTHING. THEY HAVE DEMANDED IN WRITING I AM TOLD THAT THEY BE PAID NOW, NOT LATER.

I ASSURE YOU IF THE DFI FUNDS ARE RELEASED THEY WILL BE CLAIMED BY THESE COUNTRIES. THERE ARE MANY COUNTRIES THAT WHERE NOT PART OF THE PARIS AGREEMENT BUT THEY HAD ALSO FORGAVE CERTAIN %’S OF THEIR DEBT AND ACCEPTED DINAR FOR THE BALANCE TO BE PAID UPON THE RV OF THAT DINAR. THEY ARE WAITING AND HAVE BEEN JUST LIKE WE HAVE BEEN. THIS IS THE VERY REASON THE DFI FUNDS HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED BEFORE AND WHY THEY WHERE PLACED UNDER THE PROTECTION FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

ALREADY BLESSED UPDATE, 16 MAY

TONY WILL SEND A TWEET IF THERE IS ANY CHANGE IN CALL SCHEDULE FOR TODAY! I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH TONY AND DC AND WE ARE ALL SUPERFANTASTIC!

GIZ- I HOPE TODAY IS THE DAY GOING SOUTH- THERE ARE A LOT OF REAL BANK STORIES OUT THERE.

FLASHING POST, 16 MAY

Flashing Thursday Night - sent by MarineMom
 [6:31:42 PM] flashing:  Hi good evening.  Just a few words and some information that may be useful for you:  Please stay calm and confident since everything is great and moving in the right direction.  The real economic variables are falling into place.

[6:32:27 PM] flashing:  Beside that, here is some good information that you may consider in your future.

(*) ARTICLE:  PUERTO RICO Tax Incentives Defined

Few places on earth offer a return on investment the way Puerto Rico does. With an ever-growing array of services and emerging industries, part of your success will be directly attributable to the incentives available. In order to bolster the manufacturing sector as well as other strategic areas, the local government has created an aggressive economic and tax incentive program with the purpose of helping operations on the island become more profitable to those companies who manufacture here.
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Puerto Rico, the smallest isle of the Greater Antilles and with a population of approximately 4 million, boasts one of the most dynamic economies in the Caribbean. With a GNP of approximately $64.84 billion, the island has the highest GNP per capita of Latin America. For the past 50 years, the island has been a manufacturing powerhouse.

Many of the top prescription drugs in the U.S. as well as medical devices are manufactured in Puerto Rico. In the financial sphere, Puerto Rico is home to one of the most sophisticated financial markets in the hemisphere.

The island has a vibrant mutual funds market of $14 billion and financial firms on the island manage client assets that exceed $34 billion. Yet, as a place for doing business, Puerto Rico is still a well-kept secret.

As a Commonwealth of the U.S., Puerto Rico enjoys fiscal autonomy, which means that it can offer very attractive tax incentives not available on the mainland U.S. Yet, all federal laws apply to Puerto Rico.

We share a common currency, common military defense and citizenship with the U.S. No passports are needed to travel to and from the U.S. mainland.


This is a formidable combination in which the investor has access to alluring incentives, while the investments are safeguarded by:

The prevailing rule of law.

The lack of currency risk.

Puerto Rico’s political stability.

Low country risk.

Individual bona-fide residents of Puerto Rico are not subject to federal taxes on income derived from Puerto Rico sources.

How Puerto Rico is Enticing High-Income U.S. Residents to move to the island

For more than 60 years, Puerto Rico has been an alluring destination for American travelers; in fact, in its golden age of tourism, the island was a haven for A-list movie stars, billionaire tycoons with names like Rockefeller, and a wealthy elite.

In the last few years, there's been a strong push to return to that model. With top-class hotels like the St. Regis Bahía Beach, the Ritz-Carlton Reserve, and the rebirth of the legendary Condado Vanderbilt Hotel to complement properties like the W Retreat in Vieques and the Horned Dorset Primavera in Rincón, the island is making a strong push to become a destination for the wealthy.

And it's not just targeting wealthy tourists. A recent NPR report explains that laws enacted in 2012 are making it more than enticing than ever for U.S. millionaires to pick up and move to the island. Why? Here are three simple reasons:

When you move to the island, all of your investment income, (capital gains, dividends, etc.  are completely tax-free.

Your service income (a hedge fund's management fees, for example) is taxed at only 4 percent.

There is no federal income tax for Puerto Rican residents.


Of course, merely having a mailing address in Puerto Rico isn't going to get you all these breaks. You have to live here at least 183 days a year with your family (your kids need to be enrolled at local schools, if applicable.

The idea is to bring some needed capital to the island; after all, Puerto Rico has offered similar tax breaks to U.S. corporations; why not try it at the individual level?

An influx of high-income residents who live and spend money on the island should be a good thing for the economy.

But beyond the math, does it make sense for a millionaire in the U.S. to move to Puerto Rico? I'd argue that those who have never visited the island aren't fully aware of all it can offer them.

Puerto Rico can provide a terrific lifestyle. The Caribbean and Atlantic are never more than a short drive (or walk) away

 And then there's San Juan, a bustling capital city with high-end condos and lovely homes available. Many Americans also relocate to Vieques Island and Culebra Island; I've had a chance to tour some of the spectacular mansions in Culebra, and I wouldn't mind calling one of them home!

[6:33:58 PM] Marine Mom: Thanks flash

[6:34:05 PM] flashing: This law could  be very attractive for you.

[6:34:29 PM] flashing: As per this lawINDIVIDUAL INVESTORS:

The Individual Investors Act 22 (Act 22 of 2012) seeks to attract new residents to Puerto Rico by providing a total exemption from Puerto Rico income taxes on all passive income realized or accrued after such individuals become bona fide residents of Puerto Rico. To qualify, the new resident must not have been a resident of Puerto Rico at any time from January 16, 1997 through January 16, 2012.

The Act provides the following benefits to new Puerto Rico bona-fide residents on qualified investments:

•100% tax exemption from Puerto Rico income taxes on all dividends

•100% tax exemption from Puerto Rico income taxes on all interest

•100% tax exemption from Puerto Rico income taxes on all short-term, and long-term capital gains accrued after the individual becomes a bona- fide resident of Puerto Rico (“Puerto Rico Gain”).
http://m.puertoricosothebysrealty.com/eng/tax-incentives

:34:54 PM] flashing: I hope this information will be helpful for you.

I wish you the best in your future
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TNT CHAT UPDATE, 16 MAY

TNT:

[daz] Already Blessed:  YES....I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH TONY AND DC AND WE ARE ALL SUPERFANTASTIC!

[chillimac] Guys look at this

 [chillimac] Jack lew meeting with o

http://politics.suntimes.com/article/washington/obama-guidance-press-schedule-may-16-2014-sec-jack-lew/fri-05162014-905am

[KIRKWOOD] chillimac THIS IS THE KEY FOR THE RV..

[Pam D.] chillimac - Well, Mr. Lew is all over the Oval Office today! That looks hopeful!

[KIRKWOOD] chillimac what time did they say ???
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[chillimac] Kirkwood 930 am

[Pam D.] chillimac He goes back at 2pm and meets with Prez and VP

 [chillimac] NOPE 2 EDT

[KIRKWOOD] chillimac this will be the key to open the rv for all of US...HE will say to the world we are using new money,,,,gold back no more towlet PAPER (

[chillimac] Kirkwood closed press

 [KIRKWOOD] chillimac THIS WOULD BE RIGHT... ALL BANKS WILL BE OPEN,,, YES THIS IS IT (IMO)

[chillimac] Kirkwood praying it is so

[KIRKWOOD] chillimac WAIT AND WE WILL SEE …..CHINA AND THE WORLD ARE VERY MAD AT BOTH OF THEM

KIRKWOOD] there are so many being arrested ,,, i was told 1000 were this week.. They cannot go public... There are lots of people that would go crazy and start problems because they would think different... We win

[VictoriousSecret] KIRKWOOD I believe! I just hear all of these heartbreaking stories and I just want justice served for all of these innocent people caught in the crossfire of greed and corruption. Please, God, let this be soon!

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[sandytob] From what I understand, we are going through the process to complete the necessary steps to bring the RV/GCR to fruition. This does NOT constitute a delay. People find it difficult to wait, but that's what we have to do. There are many articles on Dinar Recaps that explain this. And we have never been told when an actual deadline is. That's all guess work or false information passed onto to gurus

All the intel providers have been asked to be quiet at this point, not just Tony and DC. No one is supposed to know the exact date and time of the event. Pinpointing the time/date can have serious implications on the markets and encourage corrupt behavior. All is as it should be and Tony knows that.

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[patcat151] Everyone is having problems dealing wth this silence. There are moments that tax our patience, In the overall picture, once this thing does folllow through you will need your wits at that moment and every moment to come. We will have to be sharper, cooler and able to handle so much more than this mere silence we are experiencng.. How you allow yourself to act now is a good predictor of how you will handle future situations,. My advice would be train yourself now to have a calm cool, millionaires countenance and nerves of steel. you will need them.

[patcat151] Without information that we can gather on our own, this situation is basically open to virtually every possible case scinerio possible. We don't know, what we don't know. I can understand trying to get a handle on it.Being aware of possibilities is important. Putting alot of energy into possibilities that might not even be a factor is a waste of your time and energy
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JOHN MCHAFFIE UPDATE, 16 MAY

John MacHaffie:

RENO RUMORS

ALL LOOKING FOR RV CURRENCY RATES TO SHOW UP ON THE FOREX.