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Friday, August 23, 2013

JESTER CHAT, 23 AUGUST

Jester: WEDNESDAY WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WOULD BE A SHUT DOWN OF THE SYSTEM... WE BLEW THAT OFF BECAUSE WE JUST COULD NOT BELEIVE THEY WOULD DO IT... AGAIN... MY BAD.... BUT I THINK TONY KNEW IT TOO... AT LEAST ACCORDING TO A POST I SAW.... AND HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING EITHER... SO ALL OUR BAD I GUESS...

Jester: SO THEN WHEN IT HAPPENED WE WERE ALL WONDERING WHAT THE HECK WAS GOING ON... HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR...

Jester: APPARENTLY THIS WAS A SCHEDULED EVENT TO TRY AND DO A COUPLE THINGS... THE WORD WE GOT TODAY WAS TWO FOLD... TO RESET THE SYSTEM AND TAKE CARE OF INTEGRATING SOME EMERGING MARKETS AND TAKE OVER THE SYSTEM FROM THE DARK SIDE...

Jester: AND WE ARE NOW AWARE THAT THIS WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE NEAR AS LONG AS IT DID... BUT THERE WAS A PROBLEM... AND THE SYSTEM HALTED AND WAS DOWN FOR 3 HOURS.... 
Jester: SO THERE IS YOUR GLITCH... THERE WAS APPARENTLY SOME SORT OF BLOCK IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY HAD TO WORK THROUGH THAT... 

Jester: BUT HERE IS ANOTHER POINT TO CONSIDER... AND THANK REDWOLF FOR THIS... BECAUSE WE WERE WONDERING WHY IN THE WORLD THEY WOULD ACTUALLY TRY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN REAL TIME...

Jester: WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON IS NORMALLY A SLOW TRADING TIME FOR SURE... BUT EVEN SO... NOONE EXPECTED THIS TO GO 3 HOURS EITHER... 

Jester: SO... IF YOU ARE ON A DEADLINE... WHICH WE WERE ALSO AWARE THAT EVERYONE WAS ON HIGH ALERT AND EXPECTING THINGS TO HAPPEN LAST NIGHT.. AND YES I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE YOU THINK I AM TALKING ABOUT... THEN THEY WERE TO DO IT... SYSTEM COMES BACK UP CHECKED OUT.... AND NOW WE ARE REALLY READY TO ROLL...

 Jester: THE OBJECTIVE WAS TO SEE IF EVERYTHING CAME BACK UP ALL RIGHT.... AND THE OBJECTIVE IS TO TAKE OVER THE SYSTEM TO ADD THAT TO THE THINGS THAT WERE MOVED FROM THE DARK SIDE TO THE TRANSPARENT SIDE... AND TO INTEGRATE THE EMRGING MARKETS AS WELL...

Jester: AND THEY HAD RESET ON THEIR MIND... THAT WAS THE REASON THEY DID IT LIKE THAT... IF IT HAD CAME BACK RIGHT WE WOULD LIKELY BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT NOW.

Jester: BUT THE SYSTEM DID NOT COME BACK UP PROPERLY... AND THINGS HAD TO BE FIGURED OUT AND REPAIRED... I AM TOLD THAT IS DONE NOW... WE ARE NOT SURE ABOUT THE TIMING ISSUES AT THIS POINT BUT ARE AWARE THAT THINGS ARE STILL ON HIGH ALERT FROM OUR SOURCES AT THIS TIME.. 

Jester: I AM SURE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF SPECULATIVE REPORTS ABOUT THIS AND THAT TECHNICL ISSUE THAT WILL COME OUT AND COVER THE HANDS OF THE NASDAQ... BUT I AM PRETTY SURE THAT IT WILL BE A COVER STORY TO EXPLAIN IT TO THE MASSES.... 

Jester: THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT REALLY HAPPENED FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW FROM THE SOURCES THAT ARE INVOLVED...

Jester: I THINK THAT WE ARE STILL ON TRACK... BUT NOW THEY HAVE A COUPLE DAYS TO THINK ABOUT THE NEXT GOOD TIME TO SPRING THINGS...

Jester: THERE ARE STILL TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ON WHEN IS MORE LIKELY...

Jester: THE WEEKEND SCENARIO WHERE IT ALL HAPPENS ON THE WEEKEND AND "WAKE UP ON MONDAY AND HAVE A NICE DAY"... AND THE BANKING THEORY THAT NOTHING HAPPENS ON FRIDAY BECAUSE EVERYONE GOES FOR DRINKS EARLY AND THEN ON MONDAY THEY ARE RECONCILING FROM FRIDAY.... SO WE WAIT AND SEE...

I LIKE THE WEEKEND THEORY BECAUSE HIGH ALERT IS HIGH ALERT AND THAT IS WHAT WE WERE HEARING TODAY... BUT THAT IS JUST ME...

 pb: Jester who is on high alert?

Jester: pb IMPORTANT PEOPLE...

Robertprofessor: Jester Did we hear what's needed from Christine LeGarde today?

Jester: Robertprofessor WELL... I WAS TOLD THAT THEY WERE HAPPY WITH JL AND CL SPEECHES.... DIDN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH TO ME BUT I GUESS ALL THE PROPER BUZZ WORDS WERE IN THERE...

dave_144: Jester Sounds very similar to what MtnGoat was describing. Do you know if it must be tested "Live" again?

Jester: dave_144 THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION... YOU CAN BET THE FARM IF WE GET THAT RUMOR AGAIN WE WILL TAKE IT SERIOUSLY... 

gramps77: Jester [fhdinar] We heard about announcements, any word on #3 tonight guys?

Jester: gramps77 AS I TOLD YOU GUYS BEFORE.... THAT IS NOW A POST RESET ACTIVITY... WE ARE STILL MONITORING IT BUT NOT FOR THE SAME REASON...

Jester: I REPORTED LAST WEEK THAT THEY ARE AWARE WE ARE FOLLOWING THEM CLOSELY AND WERE LOOKING TO CHANGE THINGS TO THROW US OFF... MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER TO PREDICT BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE...

peachestenn: Jester was it just me reading into it too much or did CL seem to be setting the stage for country leaders to be the hero's when they allow their own currency to reset?

Jester: peachestenn WELL WHY NOT? EACH COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PRIDE IN WHAT IS GOING ON...

pokerbrat: Jester any thoughts on Wells not being completely ready for the Dinar crowd busting down their doors?

Jester: pokerbrat THEY DON'T WANT THAT... AND THE WORD WE GET IS THOSE PEOPLE WILL GET AN 800 NUMBER AND BE ASKED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TOO... JUST NOT THE SAME ONE THE EMAIL WILL HAVE... THAT IS STILL YOUR BEST BET IN DINAR LAND....

Shivohm: Jester The NASDAQ CEO kept saying "we need to do a better job of defensive driving"! I translate that to mean they got something they were totally not expecting! And I don't think this was a Security / Firewall type of issue

Jester: Shivohm I AGREE... I DO BELEIVE THIS WAS DONE ON PURPOSE...

Jester: OK... RAN LONG AND WE ARE ABOUT OUT OF TIME... HAD A GREAT NIGHT AGAIN... THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING... I AM SURE WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TOMORROW... SO WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS THEN...

Jester: HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.... YOU TAKE CARE... GOD BLESS YOU ALL.. AND GOD BLESS AMERICA..

EAGLE1 POST, 23 AUGUST

Eagle1 » August 23rd, 2013, 11:23 pm 

Good Evening, Family:

With all of the hullabaloo over yesterday's Nasdaq outage and a bit of misinformation that's circulating and causing undue worries, it seemed appropriate for me to take everyone through a lengthy series of events that have been unfolding during the past few weeks.

Let's begin by going back to June 27th when the UN lifted the sanctions on Iraq and Chapter VII was signed off. There was strong expectation that we would see the release of the IQD, along with the Global Currency Reset, and behind-the-scenes intel said that things were moving forward for the imminent release. We learned that the Iraqi Stock Exchange (ISX) was integrated into Nasdaq on July 1.

We had reliable release date information that came from credible sources actually involved in the process, and yet those dates came and went without any visible change.

We learned of multiple efforts to load the FOREX screens along with the administrative FX bank screens and had reports from officials within WF and Chase that they could see the new rates on their screens; and yet we saw no RV or GCR.

On July 23rd, we had confirmed eyewitness reports that Dr. Shabibi signed off on the new rate for the IQD/IQN and sent his paperwork to the UNSC. On July 24th, Ban Ki Moon signed off on that same paperwork and the following day, July 25th, rang the closing bell on the NYSE and at the same time introduced the president of Euronext. 

The president of Euronext welcomed Iraq and four other ME countries into the Stock Exchanges. Everything seemed to be set for the immediate release of the IQD/IQN and the GCR.

Now we come to August 1st. The IQD ceased to trade on FOREX and flatlined. We learned that it had now officially become the IQN, marking what should have announced the Dinar's move to the newly revalued rate.

Still we saw nothing on FOREX and bank screens continued to display the old rates. I began to hear rumblings in the background that Wells Fargo was behind the delays. Because WF had been assigned the lead role in the GCR, I frankly dismissed the reports as bad rumors and pooh-poohed them.

Turns out I was wrong. We could have seen the RV on July 25, and should have seen it no later than August 1 when the IQD became the IQN.

However, as I have learned, WF's management (or at least a significant portion of it) was holding out for a larger spread after they had already agreed many months before to the fee structure in a meeting with the Secretary of the Treasury and the Managing Director of the IMF.

It has been reported by another blogger (whose name I will omit in this report) that because of WF's significant IT department, they were given the lead role in that same meeting to initiate the GCR.

That brings us to yesterday.

We had been hearing multiple and credible reports of Christine Lagarde's frustration over the delays, and a report was issued which indicated that she was at the end of her patience with WF. According to intel provided to us, Jack Lew stepped into the picture and met with WF's management.

They were advised to "stick with the agreed-upon fee structure" or WF would not be permitted to continue in its role as lead bank.

I'm told that the threat even included WF's removal from the exchange process. A threat like that would have meant the loss of multiplied billions of dollars in revenue to the bank. Wells Fargo quickly capitulated.

Now, let me change horses in the middle of the stream for just a bit.

For those of you who don't understand the makeup of the IMF it basically works like this. 24 Executive Directors make up Executive Board. The Executive Directors represent all 188 member-countries.

Countries with large economies have their own Executive Director, but most countries are grouped in constituencies representing four or more countries. Eight countries each appoint an Executive Director: the United States, Japan, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, China, the Russian Federation, and Saudi Arabia.

The remaining 16 Directors represent constituencies consisting of 4 to 22 countries. Christine Lagarde, as you all know, is the Managing Director of the IMF.

The way I understand the inner workings of the Executive Board, the aforementioned eight countries with their individual Executive Directors form the final authority.

When there is a major event to take place, such as the GCR, each of them has a coded "Key Card" with an electronic code which is transmitted to some unspecified central computer.

Each of them must "swipe" their card in order to activate an agreed-upon event. As long as the testing of the system has gone on, each of the eight countries has swiped their cards without hesitation.

However, as we have approached the completion of the testing phases and prepared for the final implementation, China has been the lone holdout in this process, objecting to WF's press for a higher fee structure.

China finally reached the end of their frustration and filed a lawsuit against WF's management. This was the point at which Jack Lew intervened. Once WF's management team capitulated, China swiped their card and things began to move yesterday.

Today, in televised interviews given on both FOX Business News and Bloomberg News at the Jackson Hole Conference, Christine Lagarde made it clear that "The banking system needs to be unclogged, and liquidity as well as "instruments" need to move fluidly throughout the system, which has not been the case."

Just prior to her television interviews she said the following as part of a prepared speech to the entire symposium, "Global policymakers—all policymakers, within countries and across countries—have a responsibility to take the full range of actions needed to restore stability and growth, and to reduce imbalances."

Got the picture? Think she means it?

Now, let's get back to where we were before we changed horses.

Once the decision was made to press forward with the GCR, the process began and the trigger was pulled. Ooopssss!!!! Somebody forgot that no tests had been run using the Nasdaq Exchange.

The Security Information Processor (SIP) had never been reprogrammed to allow for changes as massive as this. You understand that the SIP was designed to deal with stock movements within a given trading period.

Maximum increases and Maximum losses are set for the various stocks as a percentage of their value, along with actual dollar fluctuations. The SIP was never programmed to deal with the kind of changes that would come along when the value of the currencies being used for trade suddenly changed -- in some cases by more than a thousand percent!

The SIP was programmed to reset itself after a thirty-minute wait to allow trading to resume. Normally this processor would stop certain trades with certain stocks or funds -- not shut down the whole exchange.

When all of the new numbers were pushed into the system, the SIP crashed. It reset itself and then crashed again.....and again.....and again -- six times!

Apparently it took that much time for some brilliant IT guy to figure out that the parameters had to be reset. And that process has been ongoing since.

Yesterday's Nasdaq activity, however, was not without other consequences -- and interesting activity otherwise! When the Nasdaq went down, the ISX went with it. Six minutes later, the NYSE went down, followed by the Toronto Stock Exchange. That was followed by other exchanges in other countries. The other exchanges did not stay down for long, having the ability to disconnect from Nasdaq and restore their own trading.

Here's the peculiar -- and verrrry interrrresting -- thing that took place on FOREX during this Nasdaq outage! The IQN, the VND and the IDR all moved suddenly. They rose together, mirroring each other's movements and spreads, then sank together -- again mirroring each other -- and finally returned to the previous programmed rates.

As the FOREX team noted, "this was manipulation! Somebody was trying to force these currencies to a whole new level." In truth, it was a reflection of the effort to move the GCR along to its conclusion.

There is a whole lot more information I could share but this is a good place to leave it. Let me end this post by saying that our intel from the IMF and the UN is telling us that they want this thing finished no later than September 1.

That's the end of next week. That doesn't mean they will wait until September 1 to implement the GCR. In fact, the evidence suggests that they will continue to work at this until every single programming parameter has been resolved. 

If they push this thing through over the weekend, you won't get to do much in the way of exchange before Tuesday.

Don't forget the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday international banking rule. No major movements of funds take place on Monday or Friday. Friday is bank tabulation day for the week's business. Monday is audit day. New business is conducted on Tuesday through Thursday when it affects the global economy.

Hope this little discussion will be of help to all of you and help you understand the magnitude of what is taking place. The RV is not a local event: it is global!

Blessings on you.

(By the way, my apologies for not responding to some of your PM's before now. My telephone has become a mirror image of Frank's and it has been hard to get anything done.)

Eagle1

LOECHIN MORE UPDATE, 23 AUGUST

08/23/13[loechin] There has been a ton of information today. We are in a great great great position for the RV to finally make it's apperance. Remember to watch your back and make smart decisions. At this very moment things are ready so let's pray that all is alligned and in order for our Blessing.

TIDBITS FROM TNT FORUM, 23 AUGUST

[crossways] from Aggiemaniac: My close brother in God 12th Man called and said to convey a message....All is on for this weekend. All final tests are being completed. International release sometime mid afternoon CST on Sunday. Call centers open at 6pm Sunday night.

[tbones] I think they release the RV tonight. Think about 190+ currencies and the number of contracts and trade agreements that are riding on numbers that are about to change. I think they must notify us about changes, even if we can't cash till next week. How many countries will have significant changes? The 2 days of notice would help. Maybe they will update the UN operational rates with the 9/1 as cash-in. GO RV!

[crossways] okay, I wasn't able to capture mort's post..but here is basically what mort said: CL said she wants this to happen tonight...asap...he said two of his sources said this. Just trying to share some intel

[BRO] The audio of Christine LaGarde on Bloomberg TV a few minutes ago - 8 minutes http://kiwi6.com/file/xxlcp0tehz

[RAJAF] Christine LaGarde, her speech was very coded. She spoke about unconventional monetary policies and that policy makers, both globally and locally not waste the space provided by unconventional policies and that they have a responsibility to take the full range of actions needed to restore stability. The world has done enough treading water. It is time now for policymakers to swim to the shore. Take this as some wisdom from a former synchronized swimmer!" 
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EXOGEN POST: " DIRECT INTEL 4:57 PM", 23 AUGUST

PER CONVERSATION THE CIX INTEGRATION WAS COMPLETED ON YESTERDAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH ARCA & EURONEXT,AND AS OF 3:00 PM EST TODAY, THE PROCESS IS IN MOTION ONCE AGAIN, AND THE ALGORITHMS ARE SET FOR THE RELEASE.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 23 AUGUST

8-23-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony     [Does it appear the person in charge is willing now to pop this baby before we lose what we've been trying to get?]  That's what I was hearing last night and this morning there is a definite cut off date.  At 7PM last night they felt it would go down, 11PM they were giving folks a 10-15 minute warning, but we're here today.  It's an ego thing, but it's ready.  [How fast do you see this getting done. "A" by end of weekend, "B" by end of next week, "C" September?]   I take "A".

8-23-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony    [Are the call centers manned? The rumor out there is they were called in at 5AM this morning.  They already had a 3rd shift there so don't understand that, why they came in and we still don't see this. I don't know.  The VND will RV, it's in the system & we have a rate for them already.  I am not supposed to say but some people are getting SKRS for $3.68.  Our country, US, wanted double digits higher than $14 for IQD for a reason, if we get a higher rate our country gets a higher rate too.  The more dollars we have the more we fuel the economy.  $14 was authorized months ago, then $18 now trying to get something in $20's.  No we are stretching to the breaking point, at least they say we are. There is a method to the madness it's not about just being greedy.

8-23-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony    Anybody who thinks that (NASDAQ) didn't have anything to do with the global reset is a complete idiot.  It had everything to do with it.  People in DC are highly upset this hasn't happened yet.  NASDAQ has never been down for 3 hours before.  This was a bigger project than they ever imagined. It became a complex situation. US wants all problems fixed first, but rest of world saying it's not realistic.  I talked with someone who was told 3 days before it was going to happen, it was part of the plan and  it did happen.  That is what we needed to happen in order for CIX to work and integrate with all the others, it would have to be connected to that system. Last night they did 3 hours of testing on entire system.  Supposedly all came out right but we're still waiting.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

8-23-2013  Intel Guru Mnt Goat    So they are still working on the situation.  This was not the RV rollout they hoped for ...believe me.  No timeline given to me since this is critical that they do this NOW. So I was told as soon and they can run tests all the way through and it works they will move on to the next step and get it live. They are close and yesterdays fiasco with NASDAQ proved that fact. We should all be feeling kind of nice right about now..... !   [post 3 of 3]

8-23-2013  Intel Guru Mnt Goat   So WF has realized this was a larger undertaking than expected since they could not get the changed rates of 190+ currencies to integrate down to the banks and FOREX all at once with any reliabilty and consistency. They also met with some high level officials in the UST and IMF and decided to integrate this with CIX. So in summary the project is failing, they are over budget and very late on their schedule. So where is now the issue. We are seeing they are down to the last piece in their integration testing effort between systems...they made an attempt again to do an integration test with NASDAQ that has no test environment setup do this kind of test. So it took down NASDAQ production... NASDAQ was down for a couple hours while they worked on it.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

8-23-2013  Intel Guru Mnt Goat    I wanted to pop on and give you a quickie update from the news I received last night from my new IMF contact.  The UST does not have the manpower and other resources to make the changes needed to roll this out internationally and do the RV. There are many different vendors involved...the contract was awarded to...Wells Fargo. One of the problems they are now aware of is that they did not hire a specialized Quality Assurace (QA) test group but are now finding that this is needed...They have since hired some QA specialists and a QA manager.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

8-23-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   BGG AND I BOTH THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD WINDOW BUT I SAY IT IS A VERY NARROW OPENING FOR THIS WEEK PERIOD BUT SHOULD OPEN WIDER LATER NEXT WEEK. POPPY3

8-23-2013  Intel Guru TD   Things are status quo as outlined yesterday, confirmed everything once again. September is still opening up as a realistic possibility of Iraq entering international status...yes, the stock market had a disruption, so what? IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GLOBAL RESETS OR THE DINAR.  

8-23-2013  Intel Guru  REDWOLF  [via Jester]   TODAY'S [THURSDAY'S]  EVENT WITH NASDAQ WAS RESET RELATED. THE DARK LIQUIDITY...FITS PERFECTLY WITH THE NEARLY THREE HOUR SHUT DOWN. NOW I AM NOT SURE IF IT WAS TO CATCH TRADERS DOING BAD THINGS OR WAS IT TO ALLOW A CLEAN UP TO HUSTLE IN THE REST?  EITHER WAY IT WAS NEEDED TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

8-23-2013  Intel Guru Jester   THE SIMPLE FACT WE WERE TOLD YESTERDAY THAT THE MARKET WOULD SHUT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND IT DID IS HUGE!  THE MAIN POINT IS WE NOW KNOW IT WAS PLANNED... WHATEVER THE REASON IS IT WAS DEFINITELY SET UP AHEAD OF TIME.  IT CAME FROM ONE OF MY INTEL SOURCES IN THE RESET WORLD... SO WE KNOW IT WAS THEM DOING SOMETHING TO PREP THE RESET. 

8-23-2013  Intel Guru Loechin    I waved goodby to the last of the Business Class people last night. They have now moved us the Best Class of people into position and we are about to begin our process...it's our turn. Yesterday the final position was taken and all seems to be in place now.  I am hoping to get a two hour heads up but with all the changes that have taken place who knows if that will even come... Until then I don't know..

MNT GOAT POST, 23 AUGUST

Hi Everyone,

I know I just did a post yesterday but I wanted to pop on and give you a quickie update from the news I received last night from my new IMF contact. I am very excited and glad we are getting to the bottom of this mess...and I mean mess. I will explain below.

I do not intend this to be a "hopium" post but just to give you the facts. You can see it is close at hand. This is almost exactly what I was told so I will try to type from my notes as much as possible. It was a long call for me. I hope its okay with you.

 First let me say I do not usually have many bank contacts and do not try to get info from banks as my source of info since I feel they are at the bottom of the food chain and just get the final result. So much of their info does not mean much to me but its interesting but could be misleading at times too.
  So I snooped around a bit and through a little networking and calling on owed favors ....lol.... I was able to dig up a source who gave me a run down of the situation.

Here it is:

The UST (US Treasury) does not have the manpower and other resources to make the changes needed to roll this out internationally and do the RV. There are many different vendors involved.

They put this out for bid. First Bank of America (BOA) as the lead took the bait but realized it could not supply the resources needed to do the job. They simply did not have the level of technical expertise needed in their limited IT department and did not feel they could do it in the time frame needed and with the budget offered.

 So Wells Fargo came into the picture since it had a larger IT shop and worked with an excellent, skilled  IT outsourcing group, So they showed they could perform and the contract was awarded to them.

One of the problems they are now aware of it that they did not hire a specialized Quality Assurance (QA) test group but are now finding that this is needed and should have been done. But they had to go back for more money since their orginal contract did not include funding for these resources.

They have since hired some QA specialists and a QA manager. They also took for granted the changes needed since the specs handed off to them were incomplete. The specialized test group is finding the developers went right to Beta test without doing much Unit testing (I think I go it right? ).

Are developers the coders? Just curious..anyone? They are now moving on in the right direction but there is more testing to do. They are working late hours and weekends.

So WF has realized this was a larger undertaking than expected  since they could not get the changed rates of 190+ currencies to integrate down to the banks and FOREX all at once with any reliability and consistency.

So they backed off and met with the company that controls the FOREX system  (which they would not tell me who and I really don't care) and re-strategized this mess and how they would proceed going forward.

They also met with some high level officials in the UST and IMF and decided to integrate this with CIX. you know this story already so I will not repeat it. Go read some of my last posts. (This in my opinion only added yet another layer of complexity but they said it didn't and actually simplifies the process, but what do I know about these things) .

They again received more funding. This has been going on now for the last 3 weeks.  This tells me proof this should have been done at least a month ago maybe a couple months ago. So please don't anyone tell me these techincal fixes are just excuses, a scam and this is false intel just to pacify us. 

So what is the current status of the system today?

As part of my career I have been in project management so I can relate to what is happening here.  So in summary the project is failing, they are over budget and very late on their schedule. These are their issues. This was a much bigger undertaking than they planned for.

Someone or some group did not do such a great job with the requirement specs, something the contractors relied on too much to be correct. All the typical nightmares associated with a large project that was interpreted as a small undertaking. A lot of invalid assumptions were made,  I am sure right from the very beginning.

I know how these situations can get out of hand if you don't have someone strong to step in and take charge and mange it properly. From what I heard they did not.

We keep hearing its fixed, they move the code to production and it runs. Again it fails and they go back in to fix it. Do they have a test environment, I asked ? Yes they do I ws told.

I was told it is a very limited test environment since the data must flow through many different applications in systems residing on many different platforms on may different enterprises. They must hand off data (the train I used in my analogy) and hope the receiving system can receive it and process it correctly. So where is now the issue.

We are seeing they are down to the last piece in their integration testing effort between systems. They rely on this other team to do their job and do not manage them. So this too is just another issue. Multiple and separate independent vendors working to get this done. You get the point? 

Yesterday I believe they made an attempt again to do an integration test with NASDAQ that has no test environment setup do this kind of test. So it took down NASDAQ production as they had to test live in production. This was not intentional.

It was a huge mistake but they had to back it out since it did not work. NASDAQ was down for a couple hours while they worked on it. Imagine that? They are sooo sloppy!  Or are they?  Not to bash them cause I think this is a very complicated integration going on here. I do wish them good luck ! How about you?

So they are still working on the situation.  This was not the RV rollout they hoped for ...believe me. It was just another headache in the process of trying to roll this new coding changes out to live production. So relax !  If it was successful we might be at the bank right now and I would not be writing this post.....lol...maybe?

I am now hearing that they are again rethinking and going to begin a new test strategy and compartmentalizing their testing. In other words they are going to conduct integration testing and watch the data flow downstream to each vendor to see how it effects each piece separately.

They  have some test tools for this purpose. They have some help now from other companies that stepped in to give advice and some testing resources. I surely hope they can kill this beast soon.

That is all I have. No timeline given to me since this is critical that they do this NOW. So I was told as soon and they can run tests all the way through and it works they will move on to the next step and get it live.

They are close and yesterdays fiasco with NASDAQ proved that fact. We should all be feeling kind of nice right about now..... !   My champagne is already back in the frig.   Wir feiern bald.

Peace and Luv to ya,   mnt goat

OKIEOILMAN POST, 23 AUGUST

3:38 PM [..OKIEOILMAN] GOOD FRIDAY AFTERNOON. I HAVE PURPOSEFULLY BEEN QUITE THE LAST FEW DAYS TO KEEP MY TAIL OUT OF A SLING. AS IT NOW STANDS THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THE R/V IN EFFECT WAS AND HAS AND IS BEING TRYED SEVERAL TIMES. 

THERE ARE SO MUCH INVOLVED IT HAS BEEN A DAUNTING TASK. AS I NOW UNDERSTAND IT WE ARE NO LONGER DOING ANY TESTING AS IT WAS ALL SETTLED YESTERDAY. 

THE SYSTEM TEST YESTERDAY (NASDAQ FREEZE) WAS THE PRECURSOR WE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON AND WERE UNAWARE OF IT BEING OF NECESSITY AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMPLETION. 

THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT AND THRU THE WEEKEND (IF NECESSARY) SEEM'S TO BE OF A PRIME TIME TO BE AWARE OF THE NEWS. THE RATES ARE STILL VERY HIGH AND THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN SURPASSED SEVERAL TIMES LATELY WITH THE LATEST DEADLINE BEING SOONER THAN EXPECTED.

 LISTEN THIS AFTERNOON ON BLOOMBERG FOR A PROJECTED ANNOUNCEMENT FROM C.L.--REGARDING WHAT?-I AM UNAWARE BUT FROM HER POSITION I AM SURE IT WILL RELATE TO SOMETHING INTERNATIONAL ON THE FINANCIAL FRONT. KEEP THE FAITH AND PRAYERS GOING UP-----BLESSINGS

TONY CC NOTES, PART 1, 23 AUGUST

OFFICIAL CALL NOTES, TNT Dinar
By: Montana

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OK NEW VERSION OF THE SONG TODAY?

RAY: YES

I HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD IT MYSELF  TURNED ON Q & A OFF TO THE RACES

OK, GOOD MORNING TNT HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY

INTERESTING DAY YESTERDAY  THATS FOR SURE LOT OF PPL WERE EXCITED    GOOD REASON FOR THE EXCITEMENT
  AND I'LL START THE CALL OFF LIKE THIS ANYONE THAT THINKS THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO DO W/ THE GLOBAL RESET IS A COMPLETE IDIOT  IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT  WANTED YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT

GOT ALL KINDS OF GOOD INFO HERE TODAY IS FRIDAY, AUGUST 23RD A DAY WE NEVER THOUGHT WE'D SEE HERE NEVER EVER  - THOUGHT WE'D BE HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS  AND THOSE THAT WANT TO SAY ITS GOING INTO SEPT

PPL IN DC THAT ARE HIGHLY UPSET AND LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT TNTDINAR.COM IS A SITE THAT PPL COME TO AND WANT ALL THE INFO AND WHY WE HEAR IT AND WHY IT MAKES SENSE TO US

SEEING HERE THAT THERE ARE PPL COMING OVER FROM THE OTHER SITE TELL YOU THINGS DIFF. VARIATIONS BUT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING WE'RE TAKING A STRONGER STAND ON IT THE MODS ARE GETTING COMPLAINTS

MOST INTELLIGENT PPL CONSISTENTLY HEAR WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHY WOULD YOU GO THERE? I DON'T GO TO RESTAURANTS THAT I DON'T LIKE THEIR FOOD I DON'T PUT ON THE TV CHANNEL AND WATCH THINGS I DON'T LIKE

INTELLIGENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO W/ AGREEING WITH TONY BUT A WAY TO ASK QUESTIONS WITHOUT MOCKING EACH OTHER  - WE CAME HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE IDIOTS ABOUT THE SITUATION

WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET 8 9, PPL CONTROL THE BOARD AND RUIN IT NOT WITH 14,000 PPL THE MODS WILL GIVE WARNINGS AND THEN THEY'LL BE GONE

THIS SITE WILL BE A SITE THAT PPL CAN COME TO AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS - NOT CHILDISH STUFF

YOU KNOW WE HAVE MENTALLY CHALLENGED CHILDREN AND ADULTS AND THE CONSTANTLY BUMP THEIR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL - THEY KNOW ITS GOING TO HURT THEY KNOW ITS GOING TO BLEED SO THEY PUT DONUTS ON THEIR HEADS OR THEY REMOVE THEM FROM THE SITUATION

WITH THOSE THAT ARE IN THE SITUATION IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE SENSE TO DO IT THEMSELVES THIS SITE WILL BE A SITE THAT PPL CAN COME TO AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS NOT CHILDISH STUFF NOT ABOUT 'YOU MORON'...ETC.

IF ITS ABOUT YOU DON'T KNOW THIS OR THAT YOU DON'T BELONG HERE - THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT

HERE IS THE OTHER THING - WHAT ABOUT THE RV IN IRAQ - HOW COME WE DONT' TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE - I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING - BUT PRETTY SURE I TOLD EVERYONE THEY PAID 3.44 - 1.18 - .98  FOR 2010 AND 2011

OUR FIRST INDICATION WAS THE 3.44 ON THE CARD, WHICH WAS THE RV RATE - BUT NOW THEY HAVE DIFF. RATES - IF THEY ARE CONTRACTORS, OR GOV. WORKERS - IT WAS TO CALM THEM DOWN

NOT AN OFFICIAL RV STILL TALKING TO OUR CONTACTS $$ STILL ON THE CARDS - BUYING THINGS THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BUY BEFORE

PPL THAT COME FROM THE OTHER SITE  START SOMETHING WE LOOK AT SOMEONE AND THEY'RE HERE ONE DAY AND HAVE TEN POSTS AND THEY ARE ALL NEGATIVE  - WE KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM

FILE A COMPLAINT LET US HANDLE IT AND THAT SHOULD CALM YOU DOWN

EVERYTHING I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU WILL GET YOU EXCITED  BUT I'VE SAID CONSTANTLY DONT' BUY DINAR BASED ON THIS - WE ARE CLOSE - HEARD IT 5 TIMES THIS WEEK - BUT IT HASN'T GONE

DON'T BUY DINAR OR DO RESERVES BASED ON THIS INFO AND I CAN SAY IT FREELY - THERE IS NOT ONE SITE THAT PAYS ME TO HAVE YOU BUY DINAR FROM THEM

NOT ONE BANK IS PAYING ME TO HAVE YOU CASH OUT WITH THEM - NOT ONE SITE PAYING ME TO HAVE YOU CASH OUT W/ THEM -  I CAN FREELY SAY THAT BUT I KNOW SOME THAT ARE

( CAN'T CHECK MESSAGES WHEN I'M ON THE CALL )

GOT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FROM THE CALL SITE AND THEN WE'LL GO LIVE, PAM GAVE ME 10-15 MIN. EXTRA TO WORK WITH - I HAVE ONE GUY TO PUT ON THE CALL REAL QUICK - IT DOES PERTAIN TO YOU - HOLD ON

YOU WON'T ENJOY THIS, BUT BETTER TO HEAR FROM THE PERSON HIMSELF - THEN HEAR IT FROM ME

THIS IS MR. WHITE - HE CONTACTED ME THIS MORN. AND AN EXP. HE WENT THRU

HELLO THANK YOU TONY AND YOUR STAFF-

THIS HAPPENED TO ME PERSONALLY IN THE LAST 48 HOURS - WENT TO VISIT MY SON, IN ANOTHER STATE - TAKE MY DINAR, NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT, AND WENT TO THE AIRPORT

THIS IS A WARNING ON TAKING YOUR DINAR THROUGH THE AIRPORT

HAD IT IN THE BAG - WENT THRU THE CONVEYOR - THE SECURITY GUARD SAID HE HAD TO CHECK IT - LOOKED IN THE BAG - SAW MY DINAR IN MY BAG - HE TURNED SEVERAL SHADES OF COLORS - IT WAS A FEW MILLION DOLLARS

CALLED HIS SUPERVISOR OVER & - CAME OVER WIT 2 ARMED GUARDS - LOOKED INSIDE AND THE SUPERVISOR SAID: - "OH DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, ITS WORTH PENNIES

THE OTHER GUY KEPT MESSING WITH IT , THE 1ST GENTLEMEN THAT WAS LOOKING AT IT - HE SAID LOTS OF FOLKS WAITING ON THIS - ITS ONLY WORTH PENNY'S NOW - GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!!

I KNEW THEY WANTED TO TAKE MY DINAR, THE 1ST MAN HAD INTENTIONS TO TAKE MY DINAR, THERE WAS A LOT IN THERE.

TONY: THIS GOES WITH WHAT WE HEARD OF THE TSA MEMO FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE - KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT IT, THANK YOU MR. WHITE

MR.WHITE, NO PROBLEM THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF, BEEN IN THIS 6 YEARS.. GOD BLESS

TONY: OK GUYS, LET ME GO TO Q & A REAL QUICK  SEE IF I CAN GET THROUGH SOME OF THIS BEFORE WE GO TO THE REAL PPL

MOUNTAIN GOAT KEEPS MENTIONING TO KEEP OUR MONEY SEPARATE FOR TAX PURPOSES:

ANSWER: I DIDN'T GET IT FROM MTN. GOAT, BUT FROM DC. TO KEEP YOUR IQD MONEY, SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER MONEY, ANY OTHER ACCOUNTS, BECAUSE ONE WILL BE TAXED DIFFERENTLY FROM ALL THE OTHERS,

AND IF YOU MIX THEM, IT WILL BE TAXED AT THE HIGHER RATE...

THE IQD IS BEING TRACKED BY THE UST, EVERY DOLLAR, THAT'S WHY THEY WANT IT IN SEPARATE ACCTS... THE PAYMENTS MADE ON VISA CARDS, AND THEY WANT IT SEPARATED FOR THAT PURPOSE

INDONESIAN RUPIAH, VND, IF YOU CASH IT OUT AND PUT IT IN W/ THE IQD...

lost the radio

THE REST OF THE WORLD IS SAYING LETS JUST DO THIS - THAT'S PART OF THE IT SITUATION - NEVER HAS NASDAQ BEEN FOR 3 HOURS - WHEN FB HAPPENED IT WAS DOWN FOR MINUTES, MESSED UP THEIR IPO

BUT TALKED TO PPL PERSONALLY - AND TWICE WAS TOLD THE SYSTEM COULDNT' TALK W/ THE OLD

I HEARD THAT WASHINGTON WAS UPSET ABOUT IT BUT I HEARD IT--FOX TV AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PPL HEARD IT - NOW THEY ARE SAYING - NO COMMENT - IF THAT DOESN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS - I PERSONALLY SPOKE TO SOMEONE 3 DAYS THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT WAS PART OF THE PLAN - AND IT DID IN FACT HAPPEN

NASDAQ IS THE MOST SOPHISTICATED SYSTEM IN THE WORLD - AND IT GOES DOWN AND NO ONE KNOWS - THE REST OF THE WORLD WASN'T LOOKING AT IT LIKE WE DID - THEY DON'T KNOW - DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GLOBAL SYSTEM - THEY'RE JUST WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED W/ NASDAQ

YOU HAVE MORE INFO - YOU SHOULD KNOW WHEN YOU SEE LITTLE THINGS - IN ORDER FOR THE CIX TO WORK

THE NYSE, ETC.. CURRENT VALUES OF ANY CURRENCY IN THE WORLD, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO THAT SYSTEM - AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A BRAIN SURGEON - WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE EXACT VALUES - DOESN'T THAT MAKE SENSE?

CAN YOU ASK YOUR BANK IN ATLANTA IF THEY WANT MORE PPL? - I WILL WHEN IT HAPPENS

WILL STERLING BE COMPETITIVE - HE WILL BE. HE TOLD ME THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, THEY ARE NOT CHARGING ANYTHING AT ALL - NOT CHARGING THE $150 PER TRANSACTION - NO FEE'S NOTHING - ONLY THE BANK WIRE TO WIRE YOUR MONEY $40 , THE WIRE FEE ITSELF

WILL THE BANKS HELP US GET RESERVES

DON'T KNOW, HE HAS NO AGREEMENTS W/ ANY BANKS, COULDN'T SEE HOW, YOU'D HAVE TO DO A POA W/ THE BANKS, ETC... MORE TROUBLE THAN ITS WORTH...

GET RESERVES TO ASIA

NO IDEA

DO WE NEED FUNDS FROM DONG RIGHT AWAY OR WAIT TILL DUST SETTLES

I WILL EXCHANGE MINE WHEN ITS THE HIGHEST RATE, NOT WAITING FOR IT TO GO DOWN, WHEN THE DINAR RATE GOES DOWN, EVERY RATE WILL GO DOWN, THE NEW RATES ARE BASED ON HOW MUCH DINAR THEY HOLD,

SO THE SYSTEM WILL ADJUST, WE'LL SEE CRAZY NUMBERS, THERE ARE 4, 5 CURRENCIES THAT THEY WILL GET RICH OFF, BUT THOSE SAME CURRENCIES WILL GO DOWN

ASK TONY - ARE THE CALL CENTERS MANNED THIS MORN.

DON'T KNOW, HAVENT' TALKED TO BANK PERSONAL THIS MORN.

RUMOR ABOUT BEING CALLED IN AT 5AM

I KNOW THEY HAD A 3D SHIFT, AND MAYBE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH IT THROUGH

YESTERDAY PRES. O'S SPEECH, SAID THE DEFICIT IS GOING DOWN, IS THIS HIS WAY OF TELLING US...

IT COULD BE ABOUT THE AGREEMENT OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WILL PAY US, BUT WE DON'T SEE IT PUBLIC, IF HE PUT IT OUT THERE, W/ EVERY AGREEMENT SOMETHING IS GOING ON

THIS TESTING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO, HOW LONG?

GUYS YOU CAN'T TEST A LIVE SYSTEM, NYSE, THEY DON'T HAVE SYSTEMS SET UP TO RUN TESTS ON , SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO A LIVE TEST OR A LIVE CONNECTION AND THEN GO IN AND FIX IT,

WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN DONE YESTERDAY, AFTER IT ALL CAME BACK, THEY DID 3 HOURS OF TESTING LAST NIGHT, AND SUPPOSEDLY IT ALL CAME OUT RIGHT, BUT YET WE ARE STILL WAITING

ON FOX NEWS - IRAQ INTERNATIONAL LAST NIGHT I HEARD THAT FROM2, 3 PPL THIS MORNING - I DIDN'T SEE IT

BTW - I CAN'T DO AFTER NOON OR EVENING CALLS - I HAVE TO HAVE 'ME' TIME - WITH ALL THE INFO I HAVE - FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE, AND BELIEVE ME MIDNIGHT LAST NIGHT MY PH. WAS RINGING -- THIS IS THE BEST TIME FOR ME TO BRING YOU WHAT I CAN

DO I THINK IT WILL HAPPEN BY LABOR DAY? - THINK SO, SURE HOPE SO

VEGAS? -- THAT'S ONE EVENT THAT WILL NOT CANCEL

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c- don't know if you saw the post i put out

c- my uncle called me yesterday to tell me that, he got his 2nd order of dinar and that he talked to his friends, and talked to his friend -- at the AFB in Baghdad, Lockheed Martin, my uncle was all excited - can't take green backs off the base anymore, has to exchange it for IQD -hundreds, fifty's, ..... the rates 3.44, he doesn't know what I know... his friend was upset, a beer is 2 dinar is almost 7

t- has to pay $2 dinar for a beer

t- that's good, confirmed with our ppl and glad others see it

c- he doesn't have a clue, he didn't know , got very excited about it, looking forward to an rv real soon

t- thank you

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some ppl said , the guy that called from Iraq - buddy there, ppl said i rushed him off, but ... ppl didn't want to hear about the friend ...

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c- in or forum, China won't let us VND RV

t- my opinion is the VN will RV, and we have a rate, so I don't agree

c- can you tell us the rate

t- told you the ceiling of 3... and some ppl, my guys will get mad - some are getting skr's for $3.68 - don't know how long it will last, and it has occurred in the last 72 hours, and know the location and we asked someone to go there and get one -- so we will verify one way or the other....

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c- had a question from the last call, created confusion, talked about the banks, and didn't have to have one bank compete wit the others, starting range would be the same, but then you came back and said something about a Multi Country group that came in to verify/implement the RV, and if they get to implement it first - 3.44, but if we get ours, its double digits, but are we restricted - will we get them in our country, despite the external forces, so if the externals do come, will we get double digits per our UST

t- here is the deal - good question -- lay it out - our country wants a double digit rate, higher than $14, for 2 reasons, if we get a higher rate THE COUNTRY GETS A HIGHER RATE....

now we all have dinar, the more we cash in, and dollars we have and fuel our economy ourselves, instead of the $1K stimulus, which didn't work.. w/ the rv we'll have ... we could go at $2, $3, and spend and blow 100K and it will stimulate the economy for a week or go w/ high double digits and create millionaires, even last year they put $80B into our economy and it didn't grow,

 the rich refuse to put money into the economy and they refuse to be engaged, the Gov. can't do it on their own, so the new plan is the NEW RICH, not the super rich, but the NEW rich, they will go out and spend, the plans, trains, clothes, which will stimulate the economy.

 New system that is in place and will run for 2, 3 years and then the super rich will come back into the economy...... not a bad plan, even though, we'll still be the haves and have nots....

the dollar up and down... but in the end, you'll be spending alot of money.. the gov. won't have to go in, create new programs, and we'll be the middle class again, but hopefully a middle class of millionaires and the super rich, will be billionaires. Its a designed plan

We had $14, 16, 18 dollars and now in the 20's, and it helps us and we've been agreeing and they agree,, but now we are at the breaking point, and if you dont' they said you'll lose it and start at the 3.44, tired of messing with you, and being greedy, and we want it right now today and to get us more, makes the plan work faster - everything they get funnels down...

so now if we come out at the high double digit rate, it will still go up

or start at the 3.44 rate and you're all scared and not going to gamble that it will go up, look at the paper, Troops going to Syria, told you that things were going to happen and who does it affect, the refugees are leaving and going to Iraq

so if it comes out at 3.44 then no, you'll have to gamble

if it comes out in double digits, why would you sit around and wait, you only have 30 days

Will some ppl do the other things, sure, but its sophisticated, but the masses, just give me my money.. I don't care if the tax is 50% I'll figure it out

c- from the intel you are receiving hourly, does it appear that they are trying to do this and pop this baby, or we will lose, commons sense, lets just go

t- thats what I was hearing last night and this morning, there is a definite cut off, lets see if they....

TONY: said way too much

c- the cutoff date, we were hearing something was approved for mid June 2014

c- does that still stand, or sometime in the next 30 days

t- lets go w/ the next 30 days   nothing is being set up for June of '14, or April'14, they are also the ones telling you .10   they've already loaded more than that on the cards   so does that make sense

c- diverting the situation like Kuwait, and they said they won't rv and then they did rv

TONY: MAYBE WE MISINTERPRETED AGAIN, 2 YEAR PROCESS OF DELETION OF THE 3 ZERO NOTES

t- so maybe the 30 days to swap out, but if they did the 10 days in country and 30 days outside,

c-saw on Fox, the main thing WF, why in their right mind, get rid of 2300 mortgage ppl at this point in time

t- don't know, what you don't know is the real estate market is a fake market, I have guys here, file cabinets full of foreclosures and they won't let them sell, the market is not back, high end houses are falling once again, they can't sell them

t- there are 3, 4 million of us, and we are not going to create the whole market, but if the dollar goes down, even less will buy houses, and WF is doing what they are doing, and operating like this isn't happening - so they have to operate like the economy they see

t- but yesterday, where banks rank - the fact that they talked about lowering the credit rating of certain banks in the news, GOLDMAN SACHS, JPMORGAN, WF, BOFA , CITIGROUP - go look and they are talking about lowering the rates even more

t- the fact that WF is trying to get all this money, and they were at the bottom of the list....we always talk about whats going on w/ WF... WF got the US contract to do this, but believe me the other banks will make an offer to you.

c- how close are we?

t- yep, got the champagne in there..... they called them in last night, so 2:15 they were told to be there, at 7pm they were told its going down, 11pm, they were giving 10 and 15 min. warnings, i know what they are trying to do - its an ego thing, and you can't make me do it, but its ready, we go to the line, but things get done

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c- skeptical on Mountain Goats analysis and felt it was contrived, but hearing you - that you agree somewhat,

t- don't know who Mtn.Goat is, never spoke, but they give you the details - freely say it

t- history that I've known forever, started out w/ BofA, so you are getting details about the system... green lights and red lights, we didn't know back then, testing it and building the system, but instead of seeing the big picture, all we heard was its a lie, and that's not it, its not always about us,

its about a Global reset and the first time, and developing a new system... and ie. Christmas Lights, but if one goes out, they all go out, and then you find one and then the next string goes out..

This is the same way, only got down to country # 48, then country #62, and a diff. language, or on an old computer... until we get though it, thats real life, ppl want to tell you that they are IT guys and they don't go through that, well you are not dealing with a Global System, banking and the languages, and for ppl to simplify it and say computers are computers .... they're idiots... I shouldn't have said that

c- news, Maliki's extended family, leaving for England and he's going to India... the hypothesis is the beginning of him going to Europe, today its Turkey, don't think we'll see anyting happen to him till after this happens, the last thing they want is controversy

c- very astute, God forbid it happened to our Pres. and then the VP is here

t- our country the VP is a democrat, but in their country, the VP is a Suni and it has to be a Shite because we won...

TONY CC NOTES, PART 2, 23 AUGUST

c- the separation of the dinar, to have the acct. open, and you have $100 in it, and then put the dinar in, now you have mixed your money

c-is it best to open it when you do the exchange

t- to keep it clear and clean.... and have DB wire it, take one note, to open it, I'd open it with the dinar note and then have the $ transferred and then go back and open a new acct. and then close the other account

c- was going to do the exchange right there at the bank, and the acct. that I opened w/ the $100, put the VND there and then open a new one

t- they'll open as many as you want
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c- did they get the systems in sync

t- supposedly, they tried it for 3 hours last night

c- if you picked, between

a. this weekend

b. end of next week

c. before September

how fast do you see this getting done

t- I'll take 'A', because I know what they are trying to do, and I know the time frame for the latest agreement and know something bigger and better to happen on Tuesday

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c- sounds like the Dong will have value and go w/ the IQD

t- correct

c- the dong taxed reg. and the IQD have a lower tax

t- all I know from Washington, the IQD a 1, 2,% tax, and the rest of the currency's taxed normally.. but a special program for the IQD, and maybe because its tracked by Treasury notes and the rest by Federal notes

c- whats an SKR

t- Safe Keeping Receipt, privileged ppl get an SKR from the bank and cant touch, but in the last 72 hours there is another bank that was doing the same thing w/ the dong, and put it on deposit w/ the rate they were told it would go live at

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c- ppl are getting really creative on getting a date and rate out of you

c- the multiple choice questions, and read a post and some caller put out 2014, and read the post of the IQD will increase by then, and the ? is that the in country, the citizens are not at fully 3.44

t- the ones w/ contracts

c- contractors

c- but the citizens

t- .98 or 1.18

( listing to me now, can you send me the updated info )

c- so they are in their own float

t- technically, float up over a period of years, they could be right in the fact that they are getting back paid at .98 and for 2011 at 1.18 - so the back pay that they should have gotten and it was a few years ago, and we're so far behind, and .... we don't know anyone with more than 3.44 and we were told that's the rate we'll start at, if we don't get our act together

t- don't think they have enough resources to give them the info

c- the citizens

t-no the person that gave you the info

c- thinking ...

t- it will fully mature for the Iraqi citizens as soon as we RV - that will be there rate

c- i listen to you and believe what you say, and appreciate your hard work and what your mods do

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c- with Mtn. Goats post, fantastic, but what time frame do you think they'll have the NASDAQ fixed

t- far as I know it is, still trading today

c- the system that they are tying to implement

t- supposedly they worked it out, ran it for 3 hours last night, but not now, it would disrupt things

t- the ppl from 5 countries here to oversee it, and they can see it themselves, and we can't fix it, they are here to fix it, outside voices, experts, more intense effort, ppl assume what they can do, but you never did this before.. so the ppl that should have been brought in years ago...here we are either way, either the US is having a problem or they are BSing us and we need to go in and do it

c- best time frame then, to hear and see its done and completed...gun shy

t- well, they could be, but could try today after the market closed and have an issue on Sunday and fix it, or it is fixed, ...... i am being told it could go any minute, and it could take another 24, but they're absolutely fed up with it and the deadline is over the weekend....

TONY; KNOWING LAST NIGHT THAT BANKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND WERE ABSOLUTELY GIDDY ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE SEEING AND LAST NIGHT COUNTRIES WERE PREPARING CELEBRATIONS IN DC AND WERE MADE THEY DIDN'T GET TO CELEBRATE, SO WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS

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c- appreciate you... make common sense of it.. have a concern, but sent a private message to RayRen, but cases in Kansas City and old business... know that innocent till proven guilty and nothing in what I found upon researching the info in the email.. would cause me to think anything going on, but need someone to get in touch with me, and...

t- I've gone through this 3 years

c- but we are at a critical juncture, but someone who doesn't know how to investigate

t- listen

t- listen

t- if you want to talk, you have to listen, this has been going on for 7 years

c- i do know

t- listen, let me talk, if you look at the name, mine and another guy, his ex father in law, its a personal thing, there were hundreds involved, and they list 9, 10, I'm not concerned with it, and just yesterday, my background has been checked by the FBI, Homeland Security and the CIA, and I spend time locally with ex Police, my next door neighbor ex FBI

but just yesterday, I got, I don't have an issue with it... anyway, just got from, another country that the FBI contacted them, we know exactly who he is, and if he was a bad guy, we'd know it and you would know it too

t- this is what happens and i tell you whats going on, and tell you the truth and some ppl can't verify it, the where with all , the common sense, or the heart to take the info, not just me, but others, ie. Okie,

they'll attack the person, not the info, I've made the info ... ppl blindly follow, and not going to get into that, we just put the info out, and those smart enough to figure it out... I'm not concerned about an email that goes around, but if it worries you - don't go on the call - no one has to be here...

I haven't asked anyone to get into any biz. with me, or send me money or invest with me... i haven't directed you to any bank, none of that, so if that's your concern - but my biz. is my biz. and I'm giving you what applies to you  Hopefully that's the last time....

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c- don't think you needed to go through that w/ the last caller, we don't really care

c- last Friday you said there was an outside date when they told their ppl they would be International

t- think it was the 1st of Sept. and we didn't want to hear that, didn't want to hear it would go that long, but heard from 2, 3 ppl that it was on Fox news that they were international... need to get it clarified and confirmed

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c- you say the time frame is in the next few days, something bigger and better on Tuesday, it boggles my brain, returning to Asset Based currency or official announcement

t- dont' think there will be movement of money around the globe, and it will affect our country and you wont' hear about it

c- and the Rv has to occur before that

t- yes and hope they live up to that  that's the plan today

c- the cut off time, if you don't push it through, and its in the next 24 hours or the weekend

t- correct

c- the ME, and what Phoenix used to talk about, kick over the game board and have a war

t- that i'm not going to answer

c- the whole idea of getting SKR at 3.68

t- yep

c- so if it comes out lower, that might be an amt. we can ask for at the bank

t- the highest it was supposed to go, was 3.10, but things changed, every time we get more all the other countries get more....but if it goes back down to 3.44 they all have to go down, because its based on the value of the dinar

c- NASDAQ freeze, dark liquidity pools....was it scheduled, or testing connections

t- my take is that someone had 72 hours notice that it was going down and it went down

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c- another reason to have a TAG or NIB acct. and put the Dinar into it, the it would be Taxed that way if it were in the Fed. Res.?

t- don't know, coming from a real good source, they're involved in money, that's what they do, and telling you to keep it separated

c- but open an acct. just for dinar, but if it had interest it would come from the Fed. Res

t- don't think the interest would apply, but don't....

c- but 1-2 %, can you ask our friend

t- if they wanted your money, they wouldn't tell us to do that

c- the new acct. that it goes into, they'd track it, and you wouldn't want to put anything in it either

t- keep it separate  have more than one acct.  more than one black card

c- so all the dinar, nothing from the Fed.Res

t- as the money gets devalued, NIB accts. and makes no sense, so devalue one they devalue the other one  -- unless like in Greece... interest accts. they will

c-both you and Mnt. Goat have the champagne in the fridge, getting ready to celebrate

t- its a way to tell you how close we are, in DC they had it on the table and it didn't go, and frustrated a bunch of them... not the first time, ppl are looking for this at any moment, dont' know the moment, was supposed to be last night, and still waiting on it

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c- can't wait for the text

c- when you like a person so much, that lady shouldn't have come on a public call like that, she should go somewhere else and everyone needs to clean their own yard and she needs to clean her own

t- ok

c- heard a Phoenix call, and said the HCL had to be implemented

t- my thoughts are that all agreements are in place and won't be announced until the rv, as long as they aren't announced, there is a reason in their minds... but as soon as they do that, and the RV is announced, and it looks like they aren't in control, that's what we don't want

t- their entire population is not listening to the call, are some listening yes, and learning about their gov... but its not for the masses to know, and everyone that hates the Western Hemisphere to know

c- in Vegas, have you ever smoked Hookah

t- no

c- lol, you need to try it, as a token of my appreciation, I want to get you hookah pipe what flavors do you like

t- I some cigars and a pipe, my son goes to hookah bars

c- my son did, and someone else turned me onto this,and I like this  - are you fruity

t- no, I'm not fruity  they look like bongs to me

c- want to give it to you in Vegas

t- I'll be there

c- see you in Vegas

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c-we arent' going to get high rates, pre Saddam notes,

t- if you have Pre Saddam notes, you are not getting any rate,

c- 3 horse notes...

t- don't know about 3 horse notes

t- unless you have the notes w/ the 7 identifying notes, if I were you go to a bank and let them open the book and see if your note is authentic.... run the black light....

c- not going to worry...

t- you can go to Sterling and they have something to explain that

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c- can't get on the site to join, can Pam call me

t- will see if she can call you  -- ask her and see if you get a commitment

PAM; of course

c- the other lady is a small person to do what she did, like the other lady said, she needs to clean her back yard

t- ty

next

c-wow, excited, thank you to you and the mods and RayRen, and had an opportunity to speak w/ RayRen, heart to heart, nervous....

t- where are you from

c- been 2 years, trying to get on the call  from Who Dat City, and Who Dat Nation

t- that's the problem, lol

c- this is a privilege to get the info that we get, and other investments, never had so much info, and a lot of it, taking it... and you enjoy the ride when you can, this is going to be over and I believe it will be over soon...music in the evening and the info... who can get info on health..wealth, and spiritual.. on OM w the TNT family

c- no question

t- let me say this, thank you and really want to say that to all of you

t- its my hope that I've done a good enough job of educating you, and my niece is a Pres. of a College, and she says, that this ppl get this education for $15 a month, and i appreciated that, and now its free,

and that was my hope even then, a diff. way to think about things and look at things, and I have to go back and say man I missed that, missing pieces of the puzzle, info on Gov. work, countries work, and how individuals work, you can see that from the diff. sites, and you will take it into the future with you,

 something will happen 6 mos. from now and you're remember 'Tony" said this or that, but prepared for the future, not that the date wasn't right or the rate, but should have been about the info and the process sand see how its put together...invest in what, who am I looking for, versus the guy that says send me your money and you get nothing for it... show me how you do it, don't do it and I wind up w/ nothing anywhere....new partners.... new biz...

c- my son was on ptr, and then in college and he did research and changed his major, and helped in so many ways and offered him full time positions...and he invested into currency and its been very educational... very thankful

c- if it weren't for a sister friend of mine, want to shout out to her for sharing it with me and my family -her name is Min  - ask about the rate -- what do you think they will be

t- we had an opportunity to have a double digit rate and don't think we will let it slip by

t- anything over $10 is ridiculous, but if we get it, you'll have to take a trip to the ER

c- looking forward to Vegas  - the other night, my ear piece on OM, and doing dishes, and the new song was playing Superfantstic, not a rap person, and my son comes in the kitchen and I got the groove on, and my son is looking at me, nothings on, the tv not on, had my arms in the air... too funny

c- everyone is going to have a story my other sister in Who Dat Nation, BETRUETOME on the boards, lets enjoy this

t- ty

ok guys  THAT'S WHY I LIKE TALKING TO YOU  TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE GETTING OUT OF THINGS AND GOT EDUCATED AND OUT OF OUR OWN BOX, SQUARE I'M IN SACRAMENTO 2 AIR FORCE BASES ONE ON ONE SIDE OF TOWN THE OTHER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN

AND ASK GUYS ON THE BASE AND SAY I'M GOING TO XX BASE AND THEY SAY - WHERE IS THAT NEVER BEEN THERE HERE IN SACRAMENTO AND SAY I'M GOING TO RENO ITS AN HOUR AND A HALF AWAY

NEVER BEEN TO RENO HOW CAN YOU LIVE HERE 20 YEARS AND NEVER BEEN THERE AND GO TO THE SOUTH AREA AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET TO SOMETHING IN THE NORTH AREAS NEVER BEEN THERE - GOT TO GET OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE IN LIFE - AND THAT'S WHAT I HOPE THIS HAS DONE

A DIFF. WAY OF THINKING TRANSLATING INFO - BUT WE ALL LIVE IT TOGETHER

PART OF MY PROBLEM\ WELL NOT PROBLEM BUT BEEN TO SO MANY COUNTRIES DIFF. NATIONALITIES AND DIFF RELIGIONS - ITS NOT ABOUT US - EVEN WHEN THE GUY LIVES IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN - AND I HAVE TO TAKE THIS INTO ACCT

JOKE; OVERSEAS THEY SAY.. WHAT DO YOU CALL SOMEONE WHO KNOWS 3 LANGUAGES

TRI-ILINGUAL

SOMEONE THAT SPEAKS 2 LANGUAGES

BI-LINGUAL

SOMEONE THAT SPEAKS 1 LANGUAGE

AMERICAN

GOT TO GET THAT BUT THE MORE WE CAN RESPECT EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND THE BETTER IT WILL BE INTHIS WORLD

MOUNTAIN GOAT BEING RESPONSIBLE AND SOMEONE ELSE I SPOKE TO THIS MORNING THEY DIDN'T JUST GIVE US MONEY ITS PART OF THE PLAN AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP OUR COUNTRY AND DO THE RIGHT THING

AND THEY EXPECT YOU TO INVEST IT AND HELP LESS FORTUNATE PPL ITS IN OUR HANDS AND PART OF THE NOT JUST THE COUNTRY, SOCIAL PROGRAMS ITS IN OUR HANDS DO THEY BENEFIT ABSOLUTELY

BUT ITS A 2 FOLD WIN WIN SITUATION IT WASN'T DONE BY ACCIDENT AND ITS A BENEFIT BY GIVING US THE MONEY AND THE MORE THEY GIVE THE MORE THE BENEFIT WHEN PPL BLAME OBAMA AND WHEN THEY ARE GREEDY YOU BENEFIT

DO I WISH IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED 2 YEARS AGO  WITH ALL MY HEART 2 MONTHS AGO 2 WEEKS AGO YES - BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESPECT TO EACH OTHER ACROSS THE LINES - OUR BOARD WILL NOT BECOME WHAT THE OTHER BOARD BECAME

WE HAVE OPEN MINDED PPL HERE - AND WITHOUT ACTING LIKE CHILDREN - ENJOY YOUR DAY AND I'LL ENJOY MINE I'VE GOT TEXTS AND IF IT IMPACTS YOU I'LL DO A BLAST - HAVE A GREAT DAY

I DID COMMIT -- I SAID IF IT IMPACTS YOU....

LOECHIN POST, 23 AUGUST

8:34 AM..ET...LOECHIN: I waved goodby to the last of the Business Class people last night. They have now moved us the Best Class of people into position and we are about to begin our process. 

This has been a very long ride and sad to say we have lost some along the way. 

However to those of us who survived it's our turn. Yesterday the final position was taken and all seems to be in place now. When you are finished remember don't forget those that made this possible for all of us..

LOECHIN: I am hoping to get a two hour heads up but with all the changes that have taken place who knows if that will even come... Until then I don't know..

POST FROM TNT FORUM BY CHICO234, 23 AUGUST

I have no idea who this person is, but....  I thought I'd bring it over for fun

$3.44 in Iraq!

FROM R L D Hi everybody!

My uncle called me today and told me about his friend who is in Iraq.
The friend is at the Air Force base near Baghdad (is there an airforce base near Iraq?) and can't take "greenbacks" into town (de-dollarization?)
he has to exchange his USD for dinar at the base before going into town.
The rate is $3.44 (hmmm) and getting 100's 50's 20's 10's 5's and 1's !!!! (lower denominations)
he is upset a beer now cost 2 dinar ($7 us)
and a meal is 5 dinar ($17.20 us)

the best part is my uncle has laughed at me for 3 years and finally bought some IQD 2 weeks ago
doesn't do chat rooms, boards. conf calls etc

BLUWOLF POST, 23 AUGUST

[Bluwolf] Maybe if or when you deside to pass the following forward we may finally get our much delayed answer which is our announcement. 

All is officially over and all WFB are more then alerted and expectant in receiving there GO ahead notifications. Whatever you saw in the stock markets is a total product of a great change occuring not matter how they explain it on your table, just things that are necessary in happening for if not they would of lost a lot of money. 

No government entity has a hold or have issue a delay of things, it is protocol and even that has its deadline which by the way is today, so if all goes well being that all is so promising and positive we shall have the honor of hearing our dear Okie coming forward with our announcement period. 

Now I know that I have written in the simplest of all forms so please acknowledge this request on not playing stuply on me for I know that all are smart. 

Understand that all is done and that you will be instructed by all involved shortly, comprende period, nuff said. 

Be blessed now just let things fill all the cracks for whoever has the key is expected to turn it on at any moment for the entire world is pushing it and all of them including you are tired of having a certain few holding hostages the economical freedoms of the entire world. Ho'oponopono Bluwolf 8-22-13 23:17 pm est