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Wednesday, September 19, 2012

SANDSTORM, IQD, MOUNTAINMAN & GPCARTER POST, 19 SEPT

9-19-2012 Sandstorm: Thats what they've been telling us. No doubt, no question.  However, is it a cover story?  There have been recently numerous articles which could us to believe a RV is the goal. ie issuing gold coins, issuing bonds, floating exchange rate, no questions allowed on the IQD at the London conference, constantly changing and delaying deleting three zeros. There is a great possibility we see a RV but then again the CBI could easily delete three zeros. I'm enjoying the confusion in the financial arena concerning deleting zeros and the constant delays. IMO There are some plays in the playbook for the CBI. What they do is something I cant say for sure. I honestly see either possibility. Yet I'm fired up to see the recent talk about the different possibilities for monetary policy.

9-19-2012 IQD1217: "Convert 37 trillion dinars to 37 billion dollars by deleting three zeros from the current currency." They will reduce the money supply and raise the value of the Dinar!! Less bills make the money worth more , backed by the gold, oil and countries economy. There is no lop!! Why do you think they are changing all the banking laws?  To make Iraq strong enough to deal with the global markets!! This is Great news. Reducing the money supply by deleting the zeros leaves us with no profit. It's nothing like Turkey. When you reduce the money supply and replace the larger bills with lower bill they have to add value! Read the ministry of planning project, it explains how it works. The rate of 1164 has been keep by the CBI, It costs money to produce smaller bills so of they were going to keep the rate the same why would they print new bills? They said all along that buying every days goods is project you need to carry bags of money to buy small items!!

9-19-2012 Mountainman: The news today was amazing.  Chapter VII, HCL, Defense Ministers, Erbil all being addressed and the banking conference said a lot by saying nothing.  If the CBI was going to do a simple redenomination it would be very straight forward and would have been discussed.  Clearly they are not and that is great new for us. Until it happens we'll never be sure if this will be a float, RV then float, straight historic 100,000% rv straight to 1 to 1 etc.  We need to be tollerant of all opinions and be honest with eachother that we are just speculating.  Nothing frustrates me more than the guys who come in the room with their "secret intel they can't share that has all the answers." This is such an exciting time and we should all come together and be honest with one another.  Go RV!!

9-19-2012 GPCarter: As a full-time, forex trader I felt I should make this posting. I keep seeing posts where people talk about the IQD "movement" and rate changes on sites like XE, Forex Pros etc., and I felt compelled to share this information. Due to the time I spend doing market research and analysis for my forex trading I don't have much time to do the question and answer thing on the forums. So, that is another reason I am making this post. FYI, I am not trying to beat anyone up, bash, be rude or stir up trouble. I am actually hoping that this will help people get a better understanding. First off I would like to mention: 1. Yes, I am a holder of IQD. 2. Yes, I believe it will RV. 3. No, I don't believe it will be a LOP. 4. No, I don't get into time, rates, dates etc. 5. No, I don't have any "secret" or "inside" information and none of the other forex traders I know do either.
 The IQD is NOT, as some like to say, "On Forex". Sure, IQD is listed on sites like XE, Forex Pros and many others but NONE of these "sites" are a part of the actual forex market. NONE of these sites are market participants or one of the entities considered to be an actual part of the forex market. These sites are simply sources of information, research, trading tools, education and other things. A lot of people see IQD listed on one of these sites and assumes it means it is "on forex" or that those sites are some "official" authority but neither of those assumptions are true. Being listed on a "site" is NOT the same as being "on forex". When it is internationally traded it will then be "on forex". The so-called "movement" or "change" in the rate and on the charts that you see on those sites has NOTHING to do with movement of IQD. Remember, IQD is not traded in the forex market. You can not find it listed in the trading platform of ANY forex broker or market maker. NOT ONE. There are even brokers where you can go right now and deal in exotic currencies such as Dinars from Kuwait, Jordan etc. and NONE of them deal in the IQD. Why? Because it is not "on forex". The movement you see on those sites is a result of the value of the currency paired to it. For example, if the USD strengthens then you can buy MORE IQD for each dollar.
 If USD loses value then you would be able to buy LESS IQD for each dollar. As the value of USD rises and falls then it would be reflected on these sites and in the charts and changes and fluctuations in the rate. Some people see these changes and assume it is because of the movement in the IQD but it is not. The only time we "really" saw movement in the IQD was the recent change made by the CBI. ALL the other "changes" you see on these other sites mean absolutely nothing.  WHY are the changes meaningless? Forex brokerages, market makers and even sites like XE get their rates from data providers such as central banks. When you see what looks like a rate change in IQD on those sites AND that same rate is on the CBI then it is an actual change. Otherwise, all you are seeing is a result of the change in value of the "other" currency you have paired with the IQD. Checking all these forex sites is actually a waste of time at this point. The place we all want to see the change is on the CBI site. We want the information directly from the horse's mouth and not from a "non official" third party site. My advice is to save yourself some time and focus only on the CBI at this point. It makes absolutely no sense to check sites for movement and changes on a currency that is not even a part of the forex market at this point.

We are actually going to see this thing happen soon, 19 sept



We are actually going to see this thing happen soon

Murph (11:36 AM): Med, lots of Banking news all over the place, that has to be good news for Iraq and us, correct? I never imagined that CBI/Iraq would telegraph what they intend to do as much as they are. But only for those paying attention.
Med (11:38 AM): THEY HAD TO ON THE TELEGRAPH MURPH WE DISCUSSED THIS ALOT SINCE SEPTEMBER 2011 WHEN SHABIBI CAME OUT WITH HIS STATEMENT ALONG WITH SALEH AND THE VICE GOVERNOR BUT IT WAS TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST ALL THE NEGATIVES THAT THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE WAS THROUGHING AT THEM IN THE MEDIA SHABIBI FELT IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO SHOOT THESE DOWN FOR FEAR OF RETALIATION AGAINST THE MEMBERS OF CBI
REMEMBER THEY KILL YOU OVER THERE THEY ARE SO FANATICAL AND RADICAL THAT THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE SPECIFIC SECTS DREAM UP THIS INCREDIBLE ANGER AND HATRED THAT IS UNWARRANTED
NOW THE BANKING NEWS HONESTLY I AM ON THE FENCE OVER IT ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE AS MANY OF US DID WE LOOKED AT A SPECIFIC AND IT SEEMED THAT IT PLAYED THE ONE PART IN THE RV
THEN IT HAPPENED AND WE SURELY HAD OUR SIGNALS WRONG – MY FIRST CHOICE ON SIGNALS IS THE 2013 BUDGET
BOTTOM LINE I THINK WE ARE SEEING STATEMENTS AND I COULD BE WRONG THE NEGATIVE ONES TO TRY TO DO JUST WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT HOLD OK BBIAB
Murph: Yes, they had to wage their own campaign to support their belief and sell others on the right thing to do, ie RV. I get that, but lately there are so many articles about the upcoming financial changes it seems so real that we are actually going to see this thing happen soon. I’m just suprised, that’s all.
Of course, as you say, we followed many signals in the past, all good points that had to happen to get to where we are today. But none, singularly THE event that would lead to the RV.
But collectivly, all leading to today, very close. BUt again, it is Iraq and anything can happen.
By the way, I have enjoyed this, now a 3 year ride, with the members of this site. Thanks to all and Med for keeping it going. It’s going to be fun.

Sterling Currency Group London 2012

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 19 SEPT

9-19-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana  [Do you think that Iraq needs a current census taken before the HCL can go into effect?]  We know that we can count on the value of the dinar being exactly what they say it is - 1166, right? We know we can count on them to maintain the value of the Dinar, control inflation, and keep their money in check. The SAME THING goes for the census issue.  If they were to RV to a very high rate, like $3 - they would need EXACT numbers and a very sophisticated system to maintain that value. But RVing to anything lower, like in the .10 to $1 range, gives them more flexibility and room for error.  My point is that they may not have an exact census, but they are in control of their economy and I would ascertain that they have SUFFICIENT information to make this, and the HCL, work.

9-19-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man  [via Ghost]  THERE ARE AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF GOOD NEWS POURING IN TODAY--LET'S SEE IF IT PLAYS OUT LIKE I AM TOLD IT WILL--WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED--KEEP THE PRAYERS GOING AS THIS JUST MAY BE THE TIME OUR PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED.

9-19-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana  last week I was a bit annoyed with the situation in Libya. When something like that happens, you never know what's going to happen.  It looks like things didn't exactly blow over, but they have not escalated, so I say we are right back on track...it has simmered down enough to move forward.  Iraq needs to move forward with a higher valued currency, and they will - despite the noise in Libya, Iran, etc. If they are in the middle of a major WAR - of course it's not going to RV. But in a situation like now - they can do it.

9-19-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article: "Three presidencies held a meeting to discuss the political situation in Iraq"  This agenda is just crazy!! They are telling us what they are going to talk about…Article 140 (the Kurdish issue), the NCSP Policy Board (Allawi’s part of the Erbil agreement), the seating of the final two ministers (Defense and Interior – the actual power sharing part of the Erbil agreement), the HCL law (how everyone gets paid) and finally having a National Conference. Holy smokes – that’s the whole story right there!!  WOW!!!

9-19-2012  Intel Guru Blaino    Maliki will not be coming to the U.S.  There are 2 ministers that were chosen & are coming to talk to the UN.   The London Conference is up and rolling.  I'm looking for them to unlock the dinar tomorrow [Wednesday].  It's a possibility that these people in London right now are very likely making assurances to their guests to let them know that this is their intent. The deal is signed, it is inked.  I know a lot more about it, but I can't disclose it for complicated reasons.  There's a lot of detail that will come to light down the road.  It's all good.  More & more things are starting to happen very fast.  I think we are going to see this thing start moving.   I don't think we are in the theory world anymore, we are in the been done world & now we are looking for the release.  We are in a great place.

9-19-2012  Intel Guru BWM    two contacts in Iraq today stated that there was an "influx" of ppl [people] (particularly professionals) making the move from other countries into Baghdad and the region...when there is such a "distressed" period and so much violence why would ppl leave lives they had established to come back to the area.  Also with M [Maliki] not in NY apparently but instead in Iraq there is discussions about meetings being possible.   IMO as I "believe" that Iraq has really nothing left to accomplish I also "believe" they will be shown some bit of gratitude and allowed to "present" the first traces of the RV internationally... key on the international part.  my biggest thought process is what combination of Shabibi, M [Maliki] , and  T [Talabani] all need to be "in country" to show their ppl.

9-19-2012  Intel Guru Footforward    Also, this thing about a currency float.  There are groups that believe that Iraq will just RV, snap your fingers and you have a new high rate, it's all over & done with in seconds.  Others believe in an RI which is basically reinstates the old rate of $3.22, or $3.86 with 20% added for inflation.  Then there are people that think it will be a float, where it will come out low, $.05 or $.10 & then they will let the market drive it up.  I don't know why anyone thinks this is plausible.  There is no chance.  The rate that comes out is going to be controlled. It's not going to come out @ $.10 & then float up.  Also, they need to open one of their budgets.  All of the budgets that have come out in the last several years are well above $1.  [post 2 of 2]

9-19-2012  Intel Guru Footforward   They had a conference last year similar to the London Conference & 90% of the guest list didn't show up because Iraq had not RV'ed.   A lot of dealers, investors and big money people are in London & without an RV  & yet they have convinced them to come,  so this is interesting.   There is a lot of international pressure on Iraq.  There's all kinds of proof out there that the ministers positions have been filled & the HCL & Erbil is done.  Talabini is back, but he is not the trigger.  They want to RV, they have to RV and it will be at a good rate.   From and Iraqi standpoint it helps nothing & accomplishes nothing to have it RV at $.35 and then float up.  I think the rate is going to be high & I don't expect it to float.  I am still looking for it right away.

They have RV’d internally but have yet to RV internationally, 19 sept



cruiser] BigB Did you happen to see the article about the dollar dving from yesterday?
BigB] cruiser Yep

[cruiser] BigB did you find it interesting how the term “Basket of Currencies” was used again. Starting to hear that alot more in the media.
[BigB] cruiser Yes, all of a sudden we are again talking about “baskets”.
[2012jesus] cruiser looking real good for us
[BigB] cruiser Didn’t I read something about the BRICS in the same basket?
[cruiser] BigB very strange, like they are teling us something or preparing. IMO.
[cruiser] 2012jesus Looking good? Never knew it was bad. lol
[2012jesus] cruiser so right
[constantlyabiding] BigB 2012jesus cruiser thoughts or concerns on hearing the dollar crashing with no rv yet?
[cruiser] BigB have not seen that, but very well could be.
[BigB] cruiser Preparing! They (the PTB) like to throw some news out there and then when it happens, the people say “yea, I remember reading something about that” and accept it.
[BigB] cruiser I’m pretty sure that is what I read. I get a lot of info from the patriot side of
[BigB] cruiser I’m pretty sure that is what I read. I get a lot of info from the patriot side of the world.
[cruiser] constantlyabiding Dollar not going to crash. It will DV, actually started already, down about 5%, should drop another15-25% when all said and done.
[cruiser] BigB not questioning at all. But very possible and kind of makes sense.
[cruiser] 2012jesus BTW, whats up with oil??
[BigB] cruiser Very funny that you said that. I wrote an long atricle in OOM about 1-1/2 years ago and stated many of the things that are happening. Like the dollar devaluing, US Treasury notes, FED going away, bigger than Iraq, etc. Wish I kept the post. I really got slammed!
[cruiser] BigB You were like Nostrdamus lol Too bad no one listened, because you were right.
[BigB] cruiser Yea – oil is down. I didn;t see that coming. Or maybe it doesn’t matter anymore.
[tb30] I know I haven’t been as much as I use to, but when was the last time an intel provider was on? I haven’t seen Sooner, Johnnywg, Bella besides the others on in a long time.
[BigB] cruiser I have always been good at seeng things in advance that no one else can see.
[cruiser] BigB cannot be too high. think about 90-95 makes sense, 25% higher would put it under $120. So no reason to panic.
[4given] BigB people tend not to listen to what scares them…. fear of the unknown…. dont mean you were wrong :)
[cruiser] 4given So true.
[4given] cruiser knowledge is power
[cruiser] 4given You are 2 for 2. Now please go 3 for 3 and give us a Rv. :)
[BigB] 4given I agree. When it comes to world politics and government, people prefer to bury thier heads in the sand!
[4given] cruiser ooo if only it were up to me lol
[2mater] cruiser seems to be the perfect storm right now – if doesn’t happen -any clue from here – other than waiting for who knows how long?
[4given] BigB Even Jesus said “keep on seeking” but most didnt listen to him either
[cruiser] BigB That is because no one ever understood what they got themselves into. Most, not all, thought hey what a great way to make some quick money. Boy were they wrong. roflmao
[cruiser] 2mater Lets cross that bridge when we get there or should I say if we get there.
[4given] cruiser kinda like mentally working for it lol
[2mater] cruiser thanks – appreciate your time, intel and attitude
[BigB] 4given Let’s face the facts – if it doesn’t happen this month, we will be looking at very probable doom and gloom.
[cruiser] 4given Yep. This was not easy for any of us. Mentally, Physically, Emotionally. Think we are all beat up, but the knowledge we all have gained will never be taken from us and that is our reward, plus a little coin in our pockets. lol
[4given] people tend to be a lil more careful with something they “labored for” and I have truly mentally labored as have all, not to mention how much I have learned
[spades] crusier what doesnt kill us makes us stronger .
[cruiser] spades exactly.
[BigB] cruiser 4given All true, but we should all admit one thing. We are all more prepared both mentally and physically than we were 12 years, 1 year, 6 months even 1 month ago.
[childofgod] cruiser I dont think I can get any stronger! LOL
[cruiser] BigB So true.
[blessedandhighlyfavored] http://www.youtube.com/w ··· ure=plcp Sterling Currency Group Attends Iraq Finance Conference 2012 in London and http://www.youtube.com/w ··· ure=plcp London Day One Video…and They are not there to talk just food lol
[childofgod] cruiser I dont think I can get any stronger! LOL
[cruiser] childofgod I can only speak for myself, but I never thought I could be this strong. 2 laptops latter, i learned. Roflmao
[BigB] cruiser 4given All true, but we should all admit one thing. We are all more prepared both mentally and physically than we were 12 years, 1 year, 6 months even 1 mont ago. that is a huge paradym shift that most will not be able to withstand!
[MouseTrap] cruiser have you read or heard anything about the UN meeting yesturday or today?
[da58] MouseTrap watched the un meeting, showed nothing being said about Iraq
okrocks] da58 meetings are behind closed doors I believe… they have lots of those scheduled
[cruiser] MouseTrap Monday was to close out the 66th genearal assembly. Yesterday @ 3pm started the 67th General Assembly, announcing of a new UN president and as far as today, nothing yet.
[sananddan24] Cruiser hello I knew you were excited about the meeting in NYC have you heard yet?
[cruiser] sananddan24 hi nope. It goes on til next Thursday.
[da58] okrocks Yes, they are…and don’t think we’d hear right away. I did watch recaps of some of those meetings they broke up for..nothing, but of course – that doesn’t mean a thing..
[cman13] cruiser have you heard of cdars? if so whats your opinion?
[cruiser] cman13 no sorry, please explain.
[childofgod] cruiser Even though the NY meeting goes till next Thurs, could we still see an RV before that?
[cruiser] childofgod anything is possible.
[BigB] 4given I’ll try again. The metal preparedness is critical. Most of our lives we just get by. Then one day we have more money than we ever thought existed. That is a huge paradym shift that most will not be able to withstand!
[childofgod] cman13 CDARS accounts are when your money is spread thru various banks, perk being FDIC insurance
[cman13] cruiser from what i gather. its part of the bank of mellon.. you start accounts with them and they have lots of banks . they place your funds in cd’s
[cman13] childofgod just woundered if anyone had really checked it out?
[childofgod] cman13 All details are here: http://www.cdars.com/
[cruiser] cman13 know nothing of it. Sounds interesting.
[tornado] cruiser -Good day to you sir,Are we still looking good for this week ?? IYO
[cman13] childofgod hey thanks
[childofgod] cman13 Mellon is just one of the banks – I checked out CDARS a little
[cruiser] tornado lol trying to get me to commit to a date. Think we just have to sit tight and wait some meetings to unfold, One big one and many little private ones. Then we will know more.
[tornado] cruiser -Are you under a gag order??:superlachen: :superlachen:
[cruiser] tornado by the wife roflmao
[BigB] cruiser Did you read Bank of Japan, ECB and Fed in a “Race to Debase” Says Kilburg .
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/bank-japan-ecb-fed-race-debase-says-kilburg-113550179.html
cruiser] BigB No talk of BOE at all. They have doing stimulus for the last six months and still continue.
[cruiser] It has been fun. Gonna run. Have a great day everyone. Stay positive, Stay grounded.
[2mater] Sure don’t understand the slience thing – half of the ‘gurus’ have disappeared and the other half yammer on everyday
[childofgod] misskitty05 Keep in mind – public rates will be just that – if we use WF, rate will be different and we will have to sign NDA
[weimar_police] 2mater I have not understood the guru thing / personally I think a couple are ‘around’ under diff names
[2mater] childofgod guess that’s assuming WF admits that it ‘it’s not a hoax
[thudz04] IMO I don’t believe the rate change has been attempted only to not work. We have been told they have done numerous testing which ultimately was successful. If this has been stopped it is due to certain PTB resisting/vetoing the rate change and it is not due to any type of technical issues.
[misskitty05] childofgod yes but I’m assuming that if we go to WF we will get some premium for example published rate + $1.50 or something like that. If we know the published rate we can add it up.
[2mater] thudz04 sounbds logical – hope you’re right
misskitty05] 2mater you could be right but that’s what we’ve been hearing for months
[medusa1130 ] Hey does anyone else wonder if they have RV’d internally but have yet to RV internationally because they wanted to give the Iraq people time to adjust? The thought crossed my mind…since the conference is to release them from chapt 7 and they must have an internationaly traded currency b4
[medusa1130 ] and since maliki is not going to NY he is sending ministers….could it be that they are giving the people a day before they announce it internationally? And once the ministers are there they will announce it and there for have the criteria to be released?

OKIEOILMAN, TRINITY, TENMILLION, ADAM MONTANA & PHOENIX POST , 19 SEPT

9-19-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man  [via Ghost]  THERE ARE AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF GOOD NEWS POURING IN TODAY--LET'S SEE IF IT PLAYS OUT LIKE I AM TOLD IT WILL--WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED--KEEP THE PRAYERS GOING AS THIS JUST MAY BE THE TIME OUR PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED.

9-19-2012 TrinityeXchange: There we have it. It is not unconstitutional. There is no legal way now for the GOI to prevent the intent of the CBI to delete the zeros. "Parliamentary committee confirms legal project to delete the zeros from the Iraqi currency and does not contain any defect violates the provisions of the constitution. The project to delete three zeros from the Iraqi currency is a legal and does not violate the Iraqi constitution. The CBI announced earlier that the project to delete the three zeroes from the Iraqi currency will transfer the country from a country trillions to billions."


9-19-2012 Tenmillion: Wikileak from 2008 (dinars printed at DeLarue's Kenya facility). "As reported Ref A, delays in the CBI's printing of new banknotes and a failure to calculate the increased demand for cash caused by recent civil service pay increases and more aggressive GOI domestic spending have exacerbated this cash crunch. Lacking dinar cash, Iraqi banks have increased their disbursement of the USD notes that they also maintain as vault cash. CBI data also show a significant spike in USD sales in July and August, somewhat undercutting its previous efforts in de-dollarizing the Iraqi economy. The CBI, which had injected IQD 8 trillion (USD 6.7 million) worth of new dinar notes earlier in 2008, informed us that it expects a cash shipment of IQD 800 billion (USD 670 million) to arrive shortly. This shipment will consist of 32 million IQD 25,000 (USD 21) denomination notes and be sufficient to meet roughly one week of cash demand. The CBI has ordered a total of approximately IQD 3 trillion (USD 2.5 billion). (Note: TREASATT advocacy and efforts with the CBI led to the GOI being willing to accept currency printed at DeLaRue's Nairobi, Kenya facility, which has spare line capacity. This should allow regular cash shipments to begin."


9-19-2012 Adam Montana: Last week I was a bit annoyed with the situation in Libya. When something like that happens, you never know what's going to happen. It looks like things didn't exactly blow over, but they have not escalated, so I say we are right back on track. It has simmered down enough to move forward. Iraq needs to move forward with a higher valued currency, and they will - despite the noise in Libya, Iran, etc. If they are in the middle of a major WAR of course it's not going to RV. But in a situation like now they can do it.


9-19-2012 Phoenix3333: The country of Iraq is witnessing intense political movements as moving towards the grand National Meeting to end the crisis and resolve outstanding issues. "Convinced the direction of the political movement toward National Meeting and resolve the outstanding issues. The recent moves of the leaders of the political blocs through convergence perspectives including lead toward solving problems and improving the political reality, which reflect positively towards improving other sectors."  "Breakthrough soon in the case of the approval of Kuwait to remove Iraq from Chapter VII. Rikabi said the Iraqi government did not keep silent about the issue of the country out of Chapter VII."

OKIEOILMAN POST, 19 SEPT

OkieOilMan [via Ghost]: there are an overwhelming amount of good news pouring in today. Let's see if it plays out like i am told it will. Will keep you informed. Keep the prayers going as this just may be the time our prayers are answered.

[3:07:25 PM] gypsymama: THERE ARE AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF GOD NEW'S POURING IN TODAY--LET'S SEE IF IT PLAYS OUT LIKE I AM TOLD IT WILL--WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED--KEEP THE PRAYERS GOING AS THIS JUST MAY BE THE TIME OUR PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED.

 [3:07:52 PM | I MEANT TO SAY GOOD NEWS 

[3:09:33 PM] gypsymama: OKIE ASKED ME TO POST THIS FOR HIM

WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS OUR NIGHT, 19 SEPT


TERRYK] IS THE ROOM STUCK WHATS GOING ON PEEPS WHAT ARE WE ALL DOING TONIGHT
[TERRYK] DONT TELL ME YOUR HERE AND PLAYING POKER I AM
[mangiabuona2] tk its very quiet


[TERRYK] HA I GOT SOME BIG NEWS BUT IF WE DONT HAVE PEEPS OK U ALL KNOW
[mangiabuona2] lets go peeps let tk know your here
[TERRYK] I GOT THIS CHINA SOURCE RIGHT HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THEM IN MONTHS THIS CAT IS IN THE INNER CIRCLE ] FOR WHAT EVER THAT MEANS SO HE CALLS ME LATE LAST NIGHT AND WHISPERS
[TERRYK] TK I GOT NEWS FOR U ] I THINK IM DREAMING CAUSE I WAS IN BED SLEEPING WAIT FOR IT HE SAYS SO I FINALLY WAKE UP SO HE TELLS ME THIS I HANG WITH ALOT OF FAT CATS SO THIS GUY TELLS ME THE WORD ON THE STREET IS WED NIGHT IS OUR NIGHT WE SHALL SEE TREAT IT AS A RUMOR
[TERRYK] BUT A GOOD ONE THESE ARE THE DATES WE WERE TOLD LAST MONTH

RV for tomorrow at 4 pm est, 19 sept



[williamB] hearing or we are hoping
[MsDiva] closer very sooner hoping lol
[jodilf] sooner than close?
[williamB] than sooner close?
[jodilf] closer than soon?
[hopeful2&2] closer than soon
[williamB] ? then close soon
[jodilf] we are close to it being soon
[hopeful2&2] or we r soon to it being close
[jodilf] soon we’ll be close to it being soon
[MsDiva] You guys are a hot mess
[hopeful2&2] i heard it might be tomorrow, or soon
[jodilf] hopeful2&2 sooner than tomorrow?
williamB] close soon very
[Brokerpaul] Are we hearing or hoping?

[hopeful2&2] tomorrow or sooner
[williamB] or sooner tomorrw
[MsDiva] soonest tomorrow
[MsDiva] I’m sooner going to bed my stomach hurts from laughing
[hopeful2&2] it might be sooner than close
[hopeful2&2] of course it could be closer than soon
[hopeful2&2] i am gonna call the rv for tomorrow at 4 pm est
[bbme] hopeful2&2 hopeful2&2 WOOOHOOO : I’LL TAKE IT
[MsDiva] Better check with Okie 1st hopeful
[hopeful2&2] no i didn’t hear from my source, i heard from my sources source
[hopeful2&2] nope, give okie his chance, now i’m gona do it
[MsDiva] How close are the sources source
[hopeful2&2] oh oh they are really high
[hopeful2&2] really high
[MsDiva] kool go for it hopeful
[hopeful2&2] yeppers im calling it

Parliamentary committee confirms legal project to delete the zeros from the Iraqi currency, 19 sept

Parliamentary committee confirms legal project to delete the zeros from the 

Iraqi currency

Wednesday, September 19 / September 2012 14:19


{Baghdad: Euphrates News} parliamentary legal committee confirmed that the draft deleted 


three zeros from the Iraqi currency is a legal project does not contain any defect violates the 

provisions of the constitution.

A member of the Committee cute Mustafa Euphrates News Agency {} on Wednesday that 


"the project to delete three zeros from the Iraqi currency is a legal and does not violate the 

Iraqi constitution."

He added that "his committee reviewed the project to delete the zeros from the currency 


and found that the project technician rather than a legal".

The cute "The Iraqi government decision to remove zeros from the currency if it will cause 


harm to the Iraqi economy or contribute to its construction."

The central bank announced earlier that the project to delete the three zeroes from the Iraqi 


currency will transfer the country from a country trillions to billions.

http://www.alforatnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22163:2012-09-19-10-44-21&catid=37:2011-04-08-17-25-57&Itemid=57

Maliki, Shabibi, Talabani and Barzani will RV on Thursday, 19 SEPT



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[MtnStar] the RV iis out of Iraq’s hands – they will benefit greatly from it – the PTB are so above the governments – they do not car eabout chat – the do not care about our elections – it is their greed and control.
[Tenizen] MtnStar but its potential… wasnt aware Wu was back in play
[MtnStar] sailman they never left
[NuffSaid] mbd4049 just curious if Legarde has any control of this also
[mbd4049] MtnStar China left but has returned, they just can’t give up all those dollars
[MtnStar] mbd4049 I have been studying and researching – to me this is where the trail ends – and China is where they want the power to be now – so we just play with them and then are NOT controlled by them – that is the ultimate laugh
[1biz4u] mbd4049 about the double digits?
[NuffSaid] mbd4049 any thoughts with the chaos in the ME right now? Is this an issue?
[mbd4049] NuffSaid not sure, but don’t think so
[mbd4049] NuffSaid hopefully this will rv before the ME implodes
[NuffSaid] mbd4049 so true. that is a major reason if the rates comes in low I may not wait for it to increase.
[MtnStar] mbd4049 I think we will see a false sense of stability for a short time to let the RV happen – then the PTBs will not care what happens there
[mbd4049] NuffSaid I guess that would be something to consider
[sailman] mbd4049 Thanks for your input but I haven’t seen anywhere that China is back other than here — have you found or recieved more up-to-date information outside of the posts on recaps etc.
[mbd4049] sailman sorry can’t say but she IS meeting with IMF
[dealdoctor] Hey guys! What be the news?
[bailey2..] dealdoctor we pray and wait!!!!
[dealdoctor] bailey2.. So Recaps is all over the place. Cruiser makes sense to me. I do think it logical, whatever that means, that the UN could release or has already released Iraq from 7, the conference in London lets the big investors know that Iraq will sell bonds, Maliki,Shabs,Talibani, and Barzini RV on Thursday …logical but what does that mean when dealing with Iraq????
[moonchild] and if they are looking for a time when nobody is expecting it, then the time when Maliki, Talabani and Shabibi are out of the country would seem to be a very good choice.
[dealdoctor] bailey2.. The rate senerio has 1000 different slants. I do think over time the IQD must certanly match Kuwait. It could come out high and drop, some say low and go up, others that it might just be around $3.60 at the start. In any event I think we will make much money on this investment.
[bailey2..] dealdoctor from what i am to understand, even if it comes out as a free float( CE) It states in the Iraq constitution, that the dinar will come back at pre Sudam amt… plus inflation, which should be around 3 something
[dealdoctor] bailey2.. that is in their constitution?
[bailey2..] That is what I have heard
[dealdoctor] bailey2.. needs to be in ours :)
[mbd4049] dealdoctor FYI, the dinar will be at pre Sadam everywhere BUT at WF. If you decide to not use WF then you will get the rate that Iraq has, i.e., $3.50s, BUT if you use WF China will buy all the dinars from all of us at a premium rate. just sayin’
[dealdoctor] mbd4049 is that with the code from Studley?
[mbd4049] dealdoctor yes it is
[bailey2..] dealdoctor It has also been stated that if it comes out as a manages float, it could only increase 2 % every 90 days
[massman1] mbd4049 if we go to WF, doesn’t the dinar go back to the treasury??? How does it go to China???
[mbd4049] massman1 WF is 51% owned by China
[1biz4u] massman1 china part owner WF
[mbd4049] massman1 haven’t you noticed that all the other banks are in trouble, but not WF hmmmmmmmm
[SCgunner] mbd4049 and there is the spread, the difference between what the bank pays for the dinar and what the ust pays the bank for same :)
[obxlady1] That 2% is growing exponentially every 90 days right?
[mbd4049] SCgunner yep, China wants our dinar so they can try and get more oil credits from Iraq
[SCgunner] mbd4049 I kinda thought that the bank had to turn in dinars to the ust
[mbd4049] SCgunner and China is willing to pay big for our dinar
[wheezer2] mbd4049 hey there, is this info from your sources for your thoughts?
mbd4049] wheezer2 can’t say but not me
[Bravo] Its a free market.I say if American banks not owned by Chinese want your dinar they can always offer more.
[mbd4049] SCgunner not if China is part owner of WF
mbd4049] SCgunner China backed out for a while, but just can’t give up that money
[spades] he who has the money makes the rules mbd4049
[mbd4049] spades yep
[Coffeeone] tsm I wonder how much of America they own? :cheerleader: :cheerleader:
[DRAKEFORTRUTH] tsm china does not own WF
[bailey2..] tsm I wasn’t desputing it hon, just said I didn’t know for fact, but I have heard!!!
[tsm] Coffeeone : they might own some of the US
[2mater] tsm sure thought so – will read more
[mbd4049] Coffeeone actually not as much as people think, China sold off a lot of our debt last year and you really don’t want to know to whom
[DRAKEFORTRUTH] tsm it is a public traded company and buffet is largest shareholder
[tsm] DRAKEFORTRUTH : That what I was trying to get across
[tsm] DRAKEFORTRUTH : it the tell a big enough lie…often enough…it becomes fact..we have TOO much of that fact in this Dinar world