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Wednesday, March 18, 2015

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 18 MARCH

3-18-2015   Newshound Guru Backdoc   WITH CONTINUED WORK ON LAWS, PROGRESS CONTINUES TO EXPLODE! THEY STATE THAT THEY PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THE FINAL PARAGRAPHS OF THE HCL LAW BY THE 28TH!  PAYMENTS TO OIL COMPANIES ARE PLANNED TO BE PAID BY APRIL 1ST AS WELL!  WE ALSO HEAR OF THEIR CONCERN FOR FINALIZING SECURITY BEFORE LAUNCHING THEIR MARKET ECONOMY BY THE END OF MARCH, WHICH THEY HAVE STATED!  WITH A GREEN LIGHT GIVEN FROM THE CBI AND A 3 DAY HOLIDAY COMING THIS WEEKEND, POSSIBILITIES ARE RISING!     IMO.   [post 2 of 2]

3-18-2015   Newshound Guru Backdoc   WE SEE AN ARTICLE STATING WE ARE IN BETWEEN THE DELETING OF THE ZEROS AND THE RELEASE OF THE NEW EDITIONS OF CURRENCY!   NEXT, WE SEE THAT SWIFT CODES HAVE BEEN ACTIVATED BY EVIDENCE OF THE ISX TAKING DOWN ITS’ MESSAGE THAT A DATA FEED HAS BEEN INTERRUPTED! A LIVE CONNECTION TO THE WORLD APPEARS READY!  THE IMF JUST STATED THAT THEIR CONSULTATIVE WORK WITH IRAQ IS NOW CONCLUDED!  THE IMF JUST GAVE THEM A SLAP ON THE BACK AND SAID NOW GETTR DONE BOYS!  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

3-18-2015   Intel Guru TNT Tony  [via Adept1]   There is a lot of great news.  We are not promising anything, no crystal ball, but it’s all looking good.   This is NOT being shown on Iraqi television here, but on their television there:  “Stage 4  of the economic strategy has begun".  They are starting celebrations today for Iraqi soldiers for driving ISIL from Iraq and also to celebrate the final stage of the economic strategy.”  Monday they started in the outer provinces, clearing Da’ash and paying people.  They are starting from the out in, and one reason is to make sure ISIL doesn’t get their hands on this money.  They have now started in Baghdad.  All systems are go, all lights are green, everyone is on standby – we cannot be at a higher state of readiness. WE have never been THIS close before, and we’ve been ten minutes away...  Let’s see what happens.

3-18-2015   Newshound Guru Adam Montana  ...this last week was a bit slow. We've seen continued evidence that Abadi is "the man" we want at the helm, as he continues to do great things to advance Iraq in every aspect possible.  Parliament has been working diligently, accomplishing more in a week than they used to in 2 months! It appears that the Oil & Gas issue is paused at the moment...I'm going to cut them some slack and give the benefit of the doubt at this time, since they are actually working...  There's a few ways to look at this...the most logical, in my opinion, is pretty simple - the CBI probably informed Parliament that they were not ready yet, so hold off on the HCL. So, what might be holding the CBI back? Again IMO, not much! The CBI is excellent at what they do, so perhaps it's a simple matter of aligning all of the banks that participate in the auctions. Maybe it's a last minute tweak on the Post-RV spreadsheets that they will be using. If that's what is happening, I believe that's great for us. It means we are a few words away from seeing this all come together.  We need some HCL news before I start packing my bags...

3-18-2015   Intel Guru Frank26   The CBI and GOI both did something historical... the biggest advancement in the monetary reform of the IQD. The combination of these things are incredible!  #1 – The banks of Iraq have their own SWIFT code for Int’l communication. These banks have been transferring money and doing wiring-transfers for years – which is no big deal...but they have never been able to do it with a SWIFT code. This is the first time. Which is an Article 8 requirement. Question -- What is another Article 8 requirement? Answer: the lifting of the 3 zeros.  #2 -- ...the governor of the CBI came out and said...“yes we are in the process of lifting the 3 zeros.” When you go to the CBI website and you don’t see 1166 anymore...it’s because they lifted the 3 zeros.  1166 is not in the column where it should be. Normally it is on the 18th it disappears for a few hours and then comes back. Why would they need SWIFT codes for 1166?  It may be that on the 18th we may see 1166...then the rider kicks in ...and God willing...we may see a new rate.  [Guru] Delta’s team has told us that there will be something on the 18th – let’s see what happens.

3-18-2015   Newshound Guru Aggiedad77   Article: "Daash" hamper Iraq's accession to the World Trade Organization"  Security issues within Iraq that are obviously associated with threats from DAASH terrorists are putting Iraq's efforts to join the WTO on hold for at least the time being.....at the same time Iraqi forces have been making very good progress in ousting terrorists from some areas around Iraq...more work is needed to get things moving again with the WTO.

3-18-2015   Newshound Guru Millionday   [Wouldn't it be safe to say, that Iraq could buy a whole lot more security and support with an RI'd currency?]  THE COALITION IS HELPING IRAQ TO NOT GAIN IN FUNDS BUT TO PROTECT THE GLOBE FROM TERRORISM --- THEY ARE WORKING HARD TO GET CONTROL IN THE WHOLE REGION AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO US ALL --- THE STATEMENTS WE HAVE SEEN -- SEEM TO TELL US THAT THEY ARE WANTING THE TERRORISTS...TO BE CLEARED FROM SOME AREAS...IF A MARKET ECONOMY WILL SHOW SUCCESS AND THE CITIZENS WOULD BE SAFE AS WELL...SOME EMBASSIES HAVE HELD OFF OPENING DUE TO SAFETY.  SO AS WE SEE -- THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN THE TERRORISM THEY HAVE BEEN SETTLING AND WITH SUCCESS ACCORDING TO REPORTS.  [post 3 of 3]

3-18-2015   Newshound Guru Millionday   [have the iraqi army liberated tikrit and have moved onto mosul yet?]   IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT TIKRIT IS DONE AND THEY HAVE MOVED ON TO MANY AREA.  THEY ARE ALSO DISCUSSING WORKING TOGETHER IN THE REGION -- UNIFYING THE SUPPORT.  EVEN KUWAIT IS INVOLVED SO THE PLAN IS TO WORK TOGETHER.   ...IN THE LAST FEW DAYS -- EGYPT HAS STATED THAT THEY WILL HELP IRAQ IN TERRORISM SUPPORT.  IRAQ IS MAKING IT VERY CLEAR HOW IMPORTANT THE SECURITY ISSUES AND THEIR RESOLVE ARE -- ABADI IS ALSO STATING FROM HIS OFFICE... HARMONY BETWEEN POLITICAL AND MILITARY POSITIONS-- FOR A UNIFIED POSITION.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

3-18-2015   Newshound Guru Millionday   "those relationships and brothers laid the foundations in March 1970 agreement but unfortunately, successive governments have worked day and night in order to pre-empt this agreement and actually got through to create sedition among the Iraqi people, especially between Arabs and Kurds, and what happened recently from historic agreement between Baghdad and Erbil represents a new and honorable page to build a democratic Iraq."   THE ERBIL AGREEMENT... THE UNIFICATION OF THE COUNTRY IN THE WAR ON TERRORISM.  THIS IS THE NEW AGREEMENT BEING ACTIVATED -- ERBIL AGREEMENT WITH IRAQ FEDERAL -- GREAT NEWS.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

3-18-2015   Newshound Guru My Ladies   [why would you publish a spreadsheet and then remove a line? To me, that would negate the spreadsheet. If you did that, wouldn't you have to re-date the spreadsheet?]  YES I READ SPREAD SHEETS OFTEN AND THIS ONE IS EASY TO FOLLOW, HOWEVER IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2003 SO IF IN FACT ANY NUMBERS OR RELATION TO 1166 WAS THERE THE ENTIRE FLOW OF THE SHEET WOULD REFLECT THAT, AND IT DOES NOT.  THE CURRENT MONTH MIGHT POSSIBLY BE REMOVED GOING FORWARD, BUT NEVER WOULD THE PAST BE ERASED. IMO.

3-18-2015   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23  I have asked for weeks now one question to those in Iraq...Has anyone seen the NEW 25,000 note with the NEW security features that the CBI posted on their website...And the answer has been NO!! So as long as the boy holding the water jug with sheaves of wheat on the 25,000 note are the only ones in circulation...we are still in a positive place

S3A CHAT UPDATE & EXOGEN 'S CLUES, 18 MARCH

Stage3Alpha:  

Aloha Leslie  > We sometimes forget that the pressure on the PTB are great! It's like being in a relationship and hoping, praying,  the other person "gets it" and changes. As we change/transform our thinking and BEing, and act upon those changes in the ways we are led, CHANGE happens. Citizens around the planet are  sick and tired thus they are WAKING UP!!!

SoCal Cutie  > March 18, 2015 at 1:49am much happened in the last few days, we have Australia, UK, France, Germany etc. going to the BRICS, markets crazy and manipulated, elections, etc.  Its all over the news from every corner.  Remember this entire this is staged and scripted..... so no one knows how it rolls out.  But the scripts are pretty clear now that its imminent and IMO before the 20th.


EXOGEN 'S CLUES :

  • Just looked Over the CBI Spreadsheet......

    YES the 1166 is reported again

    BUT theirs a Lot of Blank Information for Revenue FROM The 1166 Auctions

    Since the Last auction Was February 19th....That Explains the BLANK INFORMATION!!!'

    ALLS GOOD.....Don't Have A Heart Attack!!!

    STILL ON TRACK!!!

  • MARKET ACTION supporting TONIGHT


  • Hi Folks:  Oil hit a low of 42 dollars today and we may be seeing a bottom to be put in in this area.  And this price level - wiping off the Zero's will be first before the RV is disclosed.   This is just my expectation.  It is all positive for me as I believe that this heavenly blessing is close. ...Blessings

KTFA CC NOTES , 18 MARCH

Post From KTFA by FrostyTheSnowman » March 18th, 2015, 1:02 am  •  [Post 103]

KTFA CC Notes 17 March 2015  "Dessert Is Served" - KTFAlways Style  Part 1

** The comments made by Frank26, TopShelf and others are their sole OPINIONS and cannot and should not be used as any form of financial advice. **

FRANK:  The CBI and GOI both did something historical … the biggest advancement in the monetary reform of the IQD. The combination of these things are incredible!

]#1 – The banks of Iraq have their own SWIFT code for Int’l communication. These banks have been transferring money and doing wiring-transfers for years – which is no big deal …

but they have never been able to do it with a SWIFT code. This is the first time. Which is an Article 8 requirement. Question -- What is another Article 8 requirement? Answer: the lifting of the 3 zeros
~~~
#2 -- The very last sentence I left you with last night was go to the CBI website … and follow the information that was given by Delta and his team … to look at the missing info on the CBI’s website (on their book page).

Remember the NEW article that Delta posted … where the governor of the CBI came out and said (that same day in an interview) … “yes we are in the process of lifting the 3 zeros.”

When you go to the CBI website and you don’t see 1166 anymore … it’s because they lifted the 3 zeros.

Delta’s team found it. 1166 is not in the column where it should be. Normally it is … on the 18th it disappears for a few hours and then comes back. Why would they need SWIFT codes for 1166?

TopShelf called me today … and he gave me something … (SEE Tink’s POST #42) … it is a copy of a page that showed the previous page with 1166 on it.

FRANK: Come on in and tell us what you have …
FRANK: I’m still tempted to tell the family what they could do.

TOPSHELF: I don’t think we should just yet

We know the last day that anyone edited it … at the time they left it open. 

It [the spreadsheet] has only been saved and edited since February 26th at 4:44 AM.

FRANK: On the 17th thru the 18th … I feel in my heart that we are going to see indicators that the CBI website is going to come back. 

You mentioned that the ISX may do the same. They are symbiotic twins right now. We should see a “reflection” of their numbers.

On the 18th … do you think we’ll see 1166 [or any changed rate] … or the following day?

TOPSHELF: I think … it’s a matter of one thing … it’s either the 18th or the 19th … based on certain calculations that I’ve watched and seen them adhere too. They have rules only until they choose to do things differently. 

How long did they have to put the budget into place? From February 16th. 

FRANK: Once it’s funded? (3 days)

TOPSHELF: So if you post the budget February 16th … could they “back-date” it? 

They didn’t release it publicly … but it was recorded as the 16th. Technically they had to fund it within a certain amount of time. 

Then once funded … they had to stop … because they had to fund it at the new price. The 19th … the question remains … do they count that day or not?

FRANK: That’s what we’re trying to figure out the 18th or 19th

******
KTFA CC Notes 17 March 2015  "Dessert Is Served" - KTFAlways Style  Part 2

FRANK:
 (played a RECORDING from a Forum Member) I found it to be very astute. We need to think about this.
“Hi Frank … I enjoyed your call last night. I have an observation for you to consider … and that is that the number that will be in the report that goes out on the 18th has to be 1166.

It is a statement of the previous month which has been operating at 1166.

There will be a place somewhere where they state the new rate … ForEx … on the website somewhere … but that document … that is a report at the end of a period.

It will have to reflect the rate at which was used to calculate it. Blessings on you friend.”

FRANK: That’s interesting. That’s why we’re looking at the combination of those dates. It may be that on the 18th we may see 1166 … then the rider kicks in … and God willing … we may see a new rate. Interesting isn’t it?
~~~
(FORUM MEMBER COMMENTED: Oh no! 1166 now again???)

FRANK: Please RELAX sweetheart … this is just something we’re studying

TOPSHELF: Let me share something that I have in front of me right now.

In 2015 they are doing a week-ending report … breaking down every single category.

The next one out is February 19th – which is their Holy Day.

Every Thursday they are reporting their numbers weekly in 2015.

The latest number they reported was February 18th.

Today is the 17th of March. They are holding back weeks.

Remember … that gentleman said 1166

The budget came back after the fact.

What matter is what numbers they end up posting.

FRANK: Delta’s team has told us that there will be something on the 18th – let’s see what happens.

TOPSHELF: I think it could be highly probable as any other day.

It’s ironic that they stopped reporting as the 18th … even though they made a change on the 26th.

It is being well documented. But you won’t find it in the newspaper. It is on the CBI’s spreadsheet!

It’s real crystal clear … and I have the originals.

FRANK: Last Sunday we were blessed to see that 1166 was gone … and earlier that day the CBI governor said we are lifting the 3 zeros. What a combination! To see the governor of the CBI say that … and then see 1166 disappear on the CBI’s spreadsheet.

TOPSHELF: Most people that are remotely following this … haven’t seen this yet. This document probably wouldn’t have surfaced until next week. Keep in mind … it was exactly where iTeam told people to look for it … right under their noses.

FORUM MEMBER COMMENT: TopShelf … Did you get to see when the number changed from 1170 to 1166 on the spreadsheet?

FRANK: The reason why we ask … is we saw it around 3 or 4 in the morning. We are very convinced that this will come out while you and I are asleep.

TOPSHELF: I will go back and pull up the documentation and get it to you.

FRANK: The Wall Street Journal reports that gas could break the $2 mark again. Interesting. Please remember we told you that gas would go up in Jan-Feb? It did.

Now it’s stabilizing and going down … but IMO … in June, July, August its really going to shoot up again. It seems that there is something going on.

Iran made a deal … that they would “come to the table” (nuclear talks) and “negotiate” – but they wanted something in return. The deal they made was they get to sell their oil worldwide. Guess who’s going to sell it?

To summarize … we have strong security in Iraq.

Flags are going up all over the place.

Many embassies will be built in Iraq.

Kurds are super happy. They sit and wait for it.

Security will always be a problem in the middle-east … but we will be there to squash them.
M is history – and we’ll hear about him later.FRANK: The pattern that leads to value, right?

TOPSHELF: Right!

FRANK: We think that by the 18th … we may see something. If they open at 1166 … that’s ok … because then they can activate the rider. 

Let’s talk about the spectrum of the rate.

Right now … if you have a dinar in your hand … how much do you have? 

9/10th of a penny – so let’s round it up to a penny.

Family … please keep in mind … if they come out at 2 cents … that’s an increase … 10 cents … 26 cents (like Saudi Arabia did) … that’s an increase … but IMO … it won’t stay there long.

That rate is not for us (if it comes out low) … it’s for people who think they can do “double-dipping” – which the IMF won’t allow. 

There is no currency you can double-dip with … IMO.

The rate will drive-up dramatically in the still of the night while you are asleep … and maybe even increase to $1.00 by the time you wake up.

Do you know who will be trading at the low numbers? Banks. Study … “Bank platforms” – (there may not even be a term for it because is a very private term used by banking) – banks move money without telling you they are doing it. 

An RI would be nice … but if it comes out at 10 cents … don’t worry about it … because you won’t have to drive it.

We don’t believe that they will come out at $3.86 at first.

That mistake was made in Kuwait years ago. You don’t make the same mistake again.

If they do an RI … the RV is a goal … and we’re studying the “goal” of that value.

Call ended with prayer.

Late Tuesday Night:
Tuesday Night KTFA CC.  Approx.  111 minutes long.
The first part is Bible Study and the second part is Dinar/Iraq Intel.
PLAYBACK # : 760.569.7699 PIN: 156996#

https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=OTQCw/juS8y

MILLIONDAY & MY LADIES UPDATES, 18 MARCH

3-18-15 Millionday: "Those relationships and brothers laid the foundations in March 1970 agreement but unfortunately, successive governments have worked day and night in order to pre-empt this agreement and actually got through to create sedition among the Iraqi people, especially between Arabs and Kurds, and what happened recently from historic agreement between Baghdad and Erbil represents a new and honorable page to build a democratic Iraq." THE ERBIL AGREEMENT... THE UNIFICATION OF THE COUNTRY IN THE WAR ON TERRORISM. THIS IS THE NEW AGREEMENT BEING ACTIVATED -- ERBIL AGREEMENT WITH IRAQ FEDERAL -- GREAT NEWS.

[Have the Iraqi army liberated Tikrit and have moved onto Mosul yet?] 


IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT TIKRIT IS DONE AND THEY HAVE MOVED ON TO MANY AREA.  THEY ARE ALSO DISCUSSING WORKING TOGETHER IN THE REGION -- UNIFYING THE SUPPORT.  EVEN KUWAIT IS INVOLVED SO THE PLAN IS TO WORK TOGETHER.  ...IN THE LAST FEW DAYS -- EGYPT HAS STATED THAT THEY WILL HELP IRAQ IN TERRORISM SUPPORT.  IRAQ IS MAKING IT VERY CLEAR HOW IMPORTANT THE SECURITY ISSUES AND THEIR RESOLVE ARE -- ABADI IS ALSO STATING FROM HIS OFFICE... HARMONY BETWEEN POLITICAL AND MILITARY POSITIONS-- FOR A UNIFIED POSITION.
[Wouldn't it be safe to say, that Iraq could buy a whole lot more security and support with an RI'd currency?] 


THE COALITION IS HELPING IRAQ TO NOT GAIN IN FUNDS BUT TO PROTECT THE GLOBE FROM TERRORISM --- THEY ARE WORKING HARD TO GET CONTROL IN THE WHOLE REGION AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO US ALL --- THE STATEMENTS WE HAVE SEEN -- SEEM TO TELL US THAT THEY ARE WANTING THE TERRORISTS...TO BE CLEARED FROM SOME AREAS...IF A MARKET ECONOMY WILL SHOW SUCCESS AND THE CITIZENS WOULD BE SAFE AS WELL...SOME EMBASSIES HAVE HELD OFF OPENING DUE TO SAFETY.  SO AS WE SEE -- THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN THE TERRORISM THEY HAVE BEEN SETTLING AND WITH SUCCESS ACCORDING TO REPORTS. 
3-18-15 My Ladies: [Why would you publish a spreadsheet and then remove a line? To me, that would negate the spreadsheet. If you did that, wouldn't you have to re-date the spreadsheet?] 


YES I READ SPREAD SHEETS OFTEN AND THIS ONE IS EASY TO FOLLOW, HOWEVER IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2003 SO IF IN FACT ANY NUMBERS OR RELATION TO 1166 WAS THERE THE ENTIRE FLOW OF THE SHEET WOULD REFLECT THAT, AND IT DOES NOT.  THE CURRENT MONTH MIGHT POSSIBLY BE REMOVED GOING FORWARD, BUT NEVER WOULD THE PAST BE ERASED. IMO. 

TLAR CHAT DISCUSSION, 18 MARCH

Tlar & Currency Chatter Members Discussion 

Urgent: PM Preparing For Economic Reformation

Gbpkrfan            Baghdad (AIN)-A source from the Prime Minister Office revealed that the PM Haider Al-Abadi is preparing for economic reformation and simultaneously supervising the Command of Security Operations directly to liberate all the towns of Iraq which are invaded by the terrorists of the ISIL.

The source told AIN that AL-Abadi is now stepping some steps, the first one is to liberate the invaded towns by the ISIL, then rebuild them and getting the families back their home, 

the second one is putting a strategic economic plans to improve the difficult life of the people through activating the private sector, the governmental companies, the agricultural field, 

benefiting from the livestock resource and other investment projects, the last one is the reformation in the governmental institutions and buildings through facing the corruption and introducing the best service to the citizens."
~~~
The source added that "There are many challenges that face the country, security and financial which can be seen in the decrease of the income but Abadi insists that the country will cross this difficulty through putting many strategies to all sectors whether financial or military because he is the leader of the armed forces."

"Abadi works day and night to put the country on the right line because of the previous heavy accumulations and also tries to get rid of them hoping positive affairs for the people in the following days," the source continued.

"Abadi continuously meets with the cabinet encouraging them to introduce reformations the he wants and closely monitors the work of the ministries and the institutions," the source confirmed.

"It is an invitation to cooperate with Al-Abadi to settle the political, security and finical difficulties to move to the rebuilding and citizens prosperity," the source concluded. /End/

http://www.alliraqnews.com/en/index.php/political-news/65773-urgent-pm-prepares-for-economic-reformations.html

HandOverFist   Great article!  Thanks, Gbpkrfan.

Schiz  Yep cool art, confirms what i have been thinking for a v long time...we wait on isis! Thanks for sharing :)

Pjsllc One piece of the security resolution is how the Iran nuclear negations with the US is completed.  I feel Iran has a piece of the ISIS removal and is using that card in it's negotiations.  IMO

Diane     Will take some more time, but makes sense.  At least we know what we're waiting on.....

Mike    We're all in for a long wait, if we need ISIL out of Iraq before they begin currency reform.

 By all appearances, Iraq is completely unable to engage ISIL in street to street fighting with snipers and IED's, Tikrit is showing us that right now.

I've read many articles in the past several days that speak to the halt in advancement because Iraq is concerned with high casualties that will result when retaking these cities.

Let's face it, the Shia militia's and the Kurd's both have stopped fighting in Tikrit and Mosul because they know there will be a large loss of life (both their forces and the civilians) when fighting a street war.

 On top of that, it's pretty clear the Shia have no love for the Sunni's they're supposed to be liberating, they're more focused on revenge killings as evidenced by the numerous articles talking about Shia atrocities against ISIL.

 I keep thinking about how hard it was to remove Al-Quaeda from Anbar province in 2007/8.  It took a mechanized, organized, well trained, well armed, motivated US military to remove them, and that was after a 50,000 troop surge designed specifically for that purpose.

The US also armed the native Sunni tribes and even with all that, it took almost two years to win Anbar back for Iraq.  Iraq hasn't armed the Sunni's and they sure don't have the military power that the US has, and more importantly, they don't have the motivation.

 For me, the "Baghdadi talking to the prophet" is just propoganda, it's designed to placate the citizens and allow them to think that Allah is on their side and that Baghdadi is just another evil Sunni trying to kill Shia's. I mean, how many times has Baghdadi been supposedly killed?

 ISIL didn't go into Anbar for giggles, they went in so that they could establish a caliphate for their brand of Islam to prosper.  They ain't just walking out.

Someone is going to have to kill every one of them and create so much chaos that they are forced to retreat and I have zero confidence that Iraq can do this by themselves.

Air power can only do so much, unless the coalition is authorized to level Tikrit and Mosul, there's very little that can be accomplished without boots on the ground to physically engage the enemy and remove them.

 Meanwhile, the ISX will continue to lose value and the street rate of the dinar will continue to crater.  The added taxes will begin to negatively effect the citizens and investment will continue to be stalled.

The refugee problems will continue to multiply and iraq doesn't have the resources to either help or stem the flow from the west.  Can Iraq really afford to wait and deal with ISIL before they begin rebuilding their economy?

sweed61   I am hoping that the recent articles about ISIS members dressing like women to try and escape Tikrit is an indication of the overall resolve and moral.  Perhaps it might go quicker than anticipated.

tlar         I take exception to the above train of thought. I believe that monetary reform is not waiting on ISIS removal and that it is a separate issue that is happening right in front of us. Time will tell what's right or wrong. There is many things that indicate they are ready to do it this month. Tlar

HandOverFist   Tlar,   This month, before they get all the 50's back (April 30th deadline)? Doesn't seem possible.

HandOverFist   " Air power can only do so much, unless the coalition is authorized to level Tikrit and Mosul, there's very little that can be accomplished without boots on the ground to physically engage the enemy and remove them."

Mike,  I think you're right.  They need to get all the people out of Tikrit and level the city from the air, if the Iraqi army is afraid to fight Daash on the ground.

HandOverFist   "Any solution begins with the latest operation.   Tikrit is the litmus test, says Sajjan Gohel, an expert on Islamic extremism with the London-based Asia-Pacific Foundation.

How well trained is the Iraqi army in carrying out this operation? How balanced is the equation between the Iraqi army and the Shiite militias? And, effectively, how long is the whole process going to take?

 However long it takes in Tikrit, Mosul is going to take substantially longer, Gohel says.

 Whether politically, militarily or even rhetorically, the question remains: Will the U.S. get more involved? Or will Iran?"

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/03/17/absent-us-forces-iraq-turns-to-iran-militias-for-isis-fight-in-tikrit-mosul

DreamWeaver   Don't at all see this same as Mike, as far as a long wait for currency reform.

Same intuitive process that told me at the very beginning, back in June last year, that ISIS was going to holdup RV--Schiz and I have always seen eye to eye, even across the pond, on that one--

also tells me Abadi is a man on a mission and he will do everything in his power to liberate Iraq by end of May.  Had that feeling the day they announced withdrawal of 50 notes and still have that feeling.

So, I'm going to send positive vibes that Abadi achieve his goals for security--economic and governmental--by end of May, so dinar RV financially beneficial to us occurs smoothly and peacefully shortly thereafter.  Definitely vibin' my inner opti-mata-puss on this one.  Blessings all ~ DW

Mike    lol, DW, opti-mata-puss   :)   I'm not sure I'm in agreeance with Revbo and Schiz, yet.  Because, unlike many, I just don't see Iraq removing ISIL by the end May, I honestly believe it's going to take a lot longer.  Here's the thing, how long can/will Iraq wait to make economic changes?  If it takes till the end of the year to remove ISIL, does that mean Iraq will wait that long for currency and economic change?  I sure hope not.

   Kimberley DBYH.....What the *** does a smiley face mean.???? You agreeing with  Schiz,  Revbo,  Mike,  Sweed61,  Tlar...    Say something......Babies smile when they have gas....  I'm old,  so I like words.....

Dinarblowyourhorn    Hey Kimbo...I am old as dirt..I just like these new fangled emotional cons.

Actually, the smiley face has a plethora of subtle implications.  First, i hear Schiz and Mike and their thoughts.  The rational side of me tends to agree - it is foolish to think something could happen before ISIS (I prefer Daash) is "dealt with."  

Then again, the rational side of me is not what makes this a good investment or an enjoyable study in international politics and economics.  It is the irrational side that feeds that emotioncon.

I have to say, I see Mike's analysis and it sounds reasonable, but something inside says, "Yeah, but I am not sure about that.  I am not sure that nothing can go forward without this being done."

Then Tlar dares to pipe up with a straight up, "I don't think so."  That makes me smile.  Not that it is contradictory, just that it validates my own suspicions that everything is not bound to follow conventional wisdom.

I remember reading about the issuance of the new deutschmark after WWII and noticed that they had no problem issuing the currency in certain regions of the war torn country and basically said they could catch up with the others when it was more convenient.

I am not so sure they are bound to do anything country wide in Iraq.  Though it is not rational to think that Mosul might be excluded from the monetary reform until such time that it is "ready," it still might actually be the case.

We are very limited in our understanding and I think we all limit the possible outcomes to those things we can imagine and imagine to be "reasonable" when this is an imminently unreasonable idea from the very beginning.   Thus the smiley face says it all.

hi-five   The IMF recommended that Iraq activate the taxes and tarrifs.  They are suppose to launch a bond program the end of this month.  They have promised the citizens that very soon value will be added to the dinar.   The banking system has seen a significant upgrade. 

Iraq needs money in order to develop the private sector.  Developing the private sector is key to any economic advancement.   I don't think the private sector can be developed until they have a tradable currency at a realistic value.   My vote goes with the monetary reform happening in spite of ISIS.

Mike   HighFive,   ...............in addition to that.............Keywords has publically stated they have the "green light" from the WB to move forward with deleting the zero's

 My statement was that if we're waiting for the defeat of ISIL, then we're in for a wait.  I'm hoping/betting that ISIL isn't a part of the equation, although that contradicts the articles contents.  But then again, this is another "source" article, time will tell us what they'll do, the hard part is the waiting.

Dinarblowyourhorn    Right, Mike, you did say "if"  ...thanks

Mike    No worries, DBYH

Schiz   I just got a feelin Mike that ISIS will disappear at the right time. Could be the conspiracy theorist going on in me...otherwise I too see a lengthy battle.

I actually hope Iran are gunna come in or something is sorted out with jordanian troops.............im sure abadi is working something.

I still have hope for summer but I need to watch Tikrit and see how all that goes goes. I need to see what resolve isis have in Iraq now after being cut off.

Wonder if they could crack on by just putting the city under seige for however long it takes them to starve. Putting it under seige removes the direct problem. Seige it, forget about it for a while then clear out the dead bodies.

Its harsh but how they did it in the old days and its an effective form of battle without loss of life to your own troops. Lengthy though....

Mike   Schiz,  Agreed, if ISIL really did get a text from Mohammed and he told them to split, it would change everything.

KJWayne             I got into this mess on my own about 2009 from talking with my friend. I figured that if it started in 2003 and it was to be a ten year deal then 2013 would be the year to cash in.

Guess what , It almost was ! The only way to put this ,for me ,is to just say it . Iraq is slow and everybody is trying to speed them up . The whole middle east has been fighting each other since they were born and they want it their way not like us westerners do.

I figured that I would stop playing the lottery for a year or two and buy Dinars instead. That way my Iraqi Dinar Lotto ticket would not expire for awhile. I planned on the dinar to come out at $.86 after reading about these remove the zero's stuff.Then i bought enough to cover my family and me.

 A year or two later ,the tax issue started to be popular so I bought more to cover the taxes.

What I'm saying is You and I have the winning tickets in our hand and ALL we have to do is WAIT!

 The tickets won't expire ant time SOON and IF they did ,then we would be told ,in advance , that a certain window of time will be placed on what we hold. BINGO, then we take action on that .

Too many people have come and gone from this because they have read this or so and so said that. STOP, LOOK, and LISTEN to this! You have the winning ticket, called the Iraqi Dinar.

NOTHING and i mean NOTHING that you or I can do to make it happen any faster or quicker!

All that you can do is read this and that and get worried about this and that and what does IT mean or when will it happen. I don't care who is RIGHT or FIRST or "I told you so".

WHEN IRAQ changes the value of the DINAR , WE WIN!

Go out and enjoy your life NOW because it will change. UPSET<don't do it. This is a long winded way of saying   "IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!  "! Hugs to ALL of ya'll for being some of my team mates in this ball game!
P. O'Leary    KJ  I like the way you think.  HUGS back at you... All this waiting and pondering what Iraq will do can make a sane person crazy.  Just wait for it to happen!!!!

Skylimit   The simple fact is that Iraq is broke and getting less than half the petro dollars they were before the oil price collaspe. 

Security, government and reforms cost alot of money and the rest of the world is broke right now. The pressure builds to release the currency or stay beholden to the charity of others.

 Iraq is a proud people and want to take there rightful place in the ME, I agree with tlar, there is no reason for this not to happen this month.

2dambeasy     WHAT???...INTERESTING!!!...Proposal to Launch Iraqs Government Bond Debt in US Dollars

As supporting the national economy

 BAGHDAD - Mostafa Hashemi   suggested economist appearance of Dr. Mohammed Saleh, the Ministry of Finance to issue Government bond debt is denominated in dollars, not dinars to contribute to the achievement of a national dividend would reduce the budget deficit ratio.

According to Wikipedia, the sovereign debt in the form of bonds, and when governments issue bonds they behave Spillane either put up their own currency bonds, which are geared toward local investors, in this case called the religion we have a government.

or the government to issue-oriented investors in overseas currency other than the local currency bonds, which are often international, such as the dollar or currency euro.

Saleh added in a statement the "morning" that the citizen trust much the government and when issuing government support and promotion at home and abroad, it is expected to deliver a high turnout of the public who are looking for an easy and low-risk investments.

He said the possibility of issuing such bonds periods repay chains of time ranging from one year, 5 years and 10 years, stressing the possibility that sold in the secondary domestic and global markets at a discount, ‘

pointing to the need to be classified degree credit for receiving the admissibility more among citizens abroad or foreigners who wish to buy these bonds.

He pointed out that the reason for evaluating the dollar comes to granting citizen's confidence to achieve greater financial returns and encourage the acquisition because it has thus contributed to the support of the country's economy and establish a good market for borrowing and reassure the public the possibility of selling in global markets or local (banks).

Flyboy    We NOW have people screeming in the streets for jobs...they have little or no money to buy food; taxes have just been placed on everything(same as high as 300%..

.if you drink or smoke) food stuffs are being taxed as well... The dinar they hold is worn and the merchants don't want to take it... the only people who are in fat-city are the politicians.

 I admit Abadi is doing the best he can with the ISIS thrugs...and I also think the Iraqi army is not prepaired to take these folks out...nor is Iran...that is without leveling the city. So, what options are left...? 

The GOI is trying to borrow there way out of the budget mess with the IMF and WTB...but that just puts them into another hole...kicking the can down the road to the next budget. 

The CBI, IMO, has taken just about all the large notes off the streets...and now the 50's are on the way out. Everything I read indicates that oil prices are not coming back to the $100 per barrel anytime soon...

Its going to take some time to get the public sector back to work and producing anywere near what it will take to support 30plus million folks. The CBI, they have said, has the green light to improve their currency... 

MY OPINION...for Iraq and its people to get past this situation without imploding...they need value added to the dinar...NOW...not next year... 

IF they don't take care of their people they will not have a country, Iran will take over. AND...I totally agree with KJ...it is an investment...and some take a little longer than others...hang in...the end is closer than some here are willing to believe... 

End of rant...Thanks to all of you who allow us to vent thoughts...this is the very best site on the net.

Skylimit    Flyboy bingo! Saleh is a political stooge, I don't believe a word he says. The pressure builds to get this done regardless of what this hack says.

DreamWeaver   For past 9 months, I've posted no RV would occur until ISIS neutralized.  In all that time, even when I dreamed that RV was sitting at the ready to launch--I've never felt we were close to starting the RV countdown.

All that changed when CBI announced withdrawing 50s. 

These were my immediate thoughts:  There must be a new 50 note in lower denoms to be released--that is reason they are being made illegal tender; CBI must be confident ISIS will be non-issue within 60-120 days; so, Abadi must have shared his plan for eliminating threat of ISIS with CBI--

giving them confidence to implement action associated with delete the zeros; ... OMG, the RV countdown has started. 

No matter how it appears, my intution tells me that Abadi has other plans--not just Iraqi and Iranian ground forces--to combat Daash.  IF Abadi is as successful as he hopes, IMO we'll see RV by end of May. ‘

 IF Abadi  isn't as successful--for whatever reason--we may not see the RV until July, but that doesn't mean the RV Countdown Clock isn't still ticking.  It is just slowed down a bit.

I'm sticking with my intution, Mike.  Been accurate right down the line.  Understand why you and others may not agree.  For me, though, I'm feeling peaceful--drifting to sleep each night to the sound of that RV countdown clock.  Tick, tock ... tick, tock--oh, what a wonderful sound.  LOL.  Best ~ DW.  

Wiz   This is not good -- we don't want to see the *** bonds in USD ....  if so they are kicking the can down the road.

High-five   You beat me to it, Wiz.    Let's hope this is not what they do!

Wiz   Hopefully this us just another bogus filler release from Saleh .... this was all agreed to by the CBI and buyer(s) in Dinar at least twice already.  jeez --Time for some Irish Whisky -- Cheers --Wiz