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Thursday, April 19, 2018

IQD CHAT, 19 APRIL

sandyf: @chattels: @sandyf You sound as though you allow for the possibility of private exchange groups ? - I have never indicated anything in that direction whatsoever. It is an interpretation created by some to distort what has been posted.

Low level trading on the forex markets is effectively a private arrangement between client and broker, divorced entirely from any government monetary policy. It would not be out of the realms of possibility for other entities to create a similar arrangement in a similar market environment.
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sandyf: With people quite ready to dismiss audited accounts out of hand there is obviously little point in posting that the unaudited figure from the CBI for IQD in circulation at the 31st March 2018 was 42.172 Trillion.

sandyf: The idea of floating the IQD will always be a possibility but not an option normally taken by emerging markets. Growth rate is normally measured in just a few percent per year, China's highest currency appreciation reached 3% per year. If Iraq was to outperform that and say reached 5% per year, then in 25 years time the IQD would be 328 to the dollar. At 10% per annum it would take around 23 years to reach parity.

sandyf: Strange as though it may seem there is more to life than the dinar. Living in the sticks and responsible for your own maintenance there can be other priorities.

Irish Rose: Really folks???? It's all a" crap shoot"! Calling names and wanting someone to" prove it" is ridicules and you all know that. We are all in it for the money. Trying to act superior and" in the know", is degrading. NO ONE KNOWS when or if or how this will all go. So be the best version of yourself. Pray for our President and people in authority over us. .........we will just have to, "hurry up and wait"!!

Doug_W: this is a "power trip: 4 some rose

xyz: Where does Professor @sandyf get all his stuff from? Why can't the Dr. sandyf cite - by providing public record like a URL? .... Zig I love you guru ;banana

MichelleL: well, wishing you all a good morning - my bank story, cashed a check, talked about vacations and all the tellers will be taking them locally because they are BROKE :)

MichelleL: no talk about foreign exchange, everyone here is AMURIKAN! this is Texas :)

chattels: [Ayna - Baghdad] ruled out MP from the coalition of state law Mansour al - Baiji hold a meeting of the House of Representatives during the remainder of its current session even if the Presidency of the Presidency call for a hearing in the coming days. http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=72857

chattels: The current Iraqi Parliament has performed very poorly.

chattels: Iraqi currency Market Economy News Baghdad The dinar exchange rate on Thursday recorded a decline against the dollar in the local currency market . According to the figures received by "Economy News", the price of buying the dollar in Baghdad today 120 thousand and 500 dinars and sale price 119 thousand dinars and 500 dinars to 100 dollars .

As for the South stock exchanges, the price of the purchase today at 120 thousand and 750 dinars, and the sale price 119 thousand and 750 dinars compared to $ 100 . While the purchase price of the dollar on the North Stock Exchange today at 121 thousand, selling price 120 thousand to $ 100. http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=12005

chattels: Courtesy DinarAlert

chattels: As Iraqi Parliament Winds Up, The Report Card: All Talk, No Action Mustafa Habib After four eventful years, Iraq’s parliament will end its term on April 30. The main hallmarks: absentee MPs, a lot more press conferences and lack of progress on any laws that could benefit ordinary Iraqis.

http://www.niqash.org/en/articles/politics/5880/As-Iraqi-Parliament-Winds-Up-The-Report-Card-All-Talk-No-Action.htm

chattels: " The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round."

chattels: The difference between rhetoric and reality.

Baxter: Just give me my Dime... I have done my time..
Doug_W: @Baxter DITTO Pal

Baxter: matter of fact.. give me a nickel... since I am in such a Pickle..
Baxter: or... give me a penny... its better than not having any
Baxter: SNOW is covering the ground here... this April 19 : ridiculous
futuremoney: has Chattels hit the button yet??

chattels: @futuremoney My button is broke.
futuremoney: dang it
Doug_W: @chattels well go buy another one Office depot sells an "Easy" button

Tebow: see SandyF did another fly by at 4am.

chattels: Abadi’s Struggle to Maintain Campaign Narratives KIRK H. SOWELL Losing control of his campaign narratives, Iraq’s incumbent prime minister is facing questions about his credentials on nationalism, security, and public services. April 18, 2018 http://carnegieendowment.org/sada/76111

Zig: Kaperoni and Enorrste (Dinar Alert) is having a call tonight....Details at http://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html Special Guest: Tebow....

Tebow: guarantee I will not be there.

Doug_W: @Tebow awww why NOT?

Tebow: heard it before

chattels: Kirk H. Sowell ‏ @UticaRisk Apr 18 List of all 7,187 candidates for Iraq's parliamentary elections on May 12. The final # is 6,986, so some of these were struck after it was posted. http://www.ihec.iq/ihecftp/2018/parts/morsh9-4.pdf …

Tebow: unsubstantiated theory

JoeSchmoe: Honestly...how many people in dinarnia really believe in Kap and Enorste's theory?

chattels: 6,986 for 329 parliamentary posts

Zig: I don't like it when he calls people "Idiots"

JoeSchmoe: @Zig THAT right there tells me he has an ulterior motive

chattels: We all appear to be idiots at this point.

JoeSchmoe: "If you don't believe what I say, then you all don't know what you are talking about....." yada yada yada : I remember when Kap and BGG used be close too  : now kap says bgg is dreaming

Spectra: @JoeSchmoe true if you dont come with me and have your blind folds on ...your a idiot says Kap..

JoeSchmoe: for kap, it's blindfolds off, and virtual reality mechanisms on]

spankie: a lot of opinions out there

Spectra: @JoeSchmoe did you read sandyf

JoeSchmoe: no : what did he say this time
JoeSchmoe: I forgot to ask kap something last night too, a serious question

Spectra: @JoeSchmoe talked around the questions...and said we interpret it different...

JoeSchmoe: I wanted to know what he thought about banks(WF in particular) saying they would be dealing or selling the IQD 3-5 years aglo?: I wanted to see kap say that was guru bs, and it was a lie

chattels: It seems to me that a central point being made by sandyf is that the amount of dinar in circulation makes the " RV " contemplated / wished for by many impossible.

JoeSchmoe: ....cuz it happend to me, and then I could say kap was definitely *

chattels: He cites the CBI financial report as evidence of the amount in circulation.

JoeSchmoe: @chattels but how much of the dinar in circulation is inside and/or oustide iraq?

Tebow: ask him how were they going to chance salaries, contracts, prices for goods, banking accounts, etc daily with a gradual float................ Again he could not answer

chattels: @JoeSchmoe Apparently the majority may be outside of Iraq.

JoeSchmoe: @chattels if the majority of that number is inside iraq, then it is moot because a dinar will be a dinar no matter what the valuee: @chattels outside as in specuators, or neighboring countries/

Spectra: @Tebow good point

chattels: @JoeSchmoe I do not know.

Zig: I doubt if the majority of IQD is outside of Iraq....
JoeSchmoe: @Zig me too  e: @Zig most 000 most likely inside
JoeSchmoe: @Zig it's like saying there is more usd in circulation in canada and mexico than in the usa

chattels: @JoeSchmoe I want other currency or value for my dinar. Where is that money to come from ?

JoeSchmoe: I have no idea : electronic will be the guru answer or the goto answer

Zig: Central Banks that want to include it in their reserves if they think it will grow in value, etc.....

JoeSchmoe: all these questions/fears is many reasons why I question this whole thing, gradual increase and/or rv

Tebow: no one know how much is in circulation except the CBI. I remember not so ago Iraq's liquidity problems posted in articles.

JoeSchmoe: but I already have my dinar, and am not getting rid of it

chattels: I wish that I knew as all do. For now I will wait, watch, wonder and wish. Have a fine day all.

Spectra: MANY LIQUIDIDTY articles were coming out like for almost 2 years.

JoeSchmoe: well with all these questions and seemingly valid fears, it makes me wonder if there would be any way they could put a limit on the amount one can exchange? But then many other questions arise if that were to happen, making it a very unrealistic occurence

Spectra: now we are not seeing so many...THAT MIGHT MEAN A GOOD THING

Zig: We guess...some think they know...maybe have more "educated" guesses...but nobody knows how this will turn out for us...no matter what they say...or think....

chattels: @Zig Agreed.

JoeSchmoe: IF some of these fears were a real threat, then it would seem the only way for them to combat them would be to LOP. But then that whole debate begins

JoeSchmoe: and then kap comes in and says HIS way of supposed fact based thinking is the only way....then that whole thing begins lol

Zig: But Kap never says that he thinks we will be screwed....only has a different scenario as to how we will profit....he is not negative though...does not give up on this.....

JoeSchmoe: @Zig as I said, then that whole debate begins. It's a neverending cycle, that most don't ever see/realize is going on

Zig: But Kap is not a NAYSAYER as others are...: Kap is more optimistic than many in this room.....IMO

JoeSchmoe: almost as if the ptb or creators of this whole thing are the smartest manipulators in the world, knowing that this cycle can go in indefinitely   JoeSchmoe: go on

JoeSchmoe: @Zig you seem to change your views on kap alot
JoeSchmoe: @Zig I know you want to make him feel welcome in here, so I understand that point

Zig: I try to remain neutral and just spark conversation....lol

JoeSchmoe: ergo...the cycle

Zig: I have invited everyone out there....lol....Two days ago I sent an e-mail to "American Contractor" inviting him "again".....

JoeSchmoe: IF it were to gradually increase, as Kap says/theorizes, then how many people does he think will hold onto their dinar until around a 1-1, making the note count the same as it is now?

Zig: IMO not many will wait until it gets to 1:1

spankie: thx zig-- it all helps to hear diff views

Zig: I will not wait...

JoeSchmoe: the only way I see the note count diminishing outside the country, is a substantiated value. Maybe not 1-1, but a much higher than below .10 cents
JoeSchmoe: he says it starts to float at 1186. Then how does it rise from there?
JoeSchmoe: the 000 notes coming in? : WHO will sell back at that price?

Zig: Like Baxter, I would get rid of a lot of my Dinar at 10 cents.....keeping some for a bigger move.....etc....

JoeSchmoe: but for kap, it won't even start there  : says 1186 start

Zig: I know

JoeSchmoe: and the only way to even get to .10 cents is to bring 000 notes in  : correct?
JoeSchmoe: or am I mistaken
Tebow: I remember in the past Kap stating the CBI pushing Iraqis to open accounts to get the Dinar out from under their mattress. Why? The CBI could just lol the currency. That's not their plan. Kap pushes Iraq's MR. what reform if the current rate 1184 is it's true value. No need for MR. No need for a new currency.

JoeSchmoe: @Tebow how does he say the value rises? : bringing in the 000 notes, right?

Zig: Supply and Demand....Less supply of Dinar more value per Dinar.....more need for lower denoms as supply decreases and value increases.....

Tebow: He doesn't know.

JoeSchmoe: which begs the question again, WHO will get rid of their 000 notes those low prices
JoeSchmoe: @Zig cannot have lds without value increase

Zig: True

JoeSchmoe: @Zig how will they get that increase without 000 coming in, according to kap
JoeSchmoe: his theory contradicts itself: if that is what I remember him saying.
JoeSchmoe: correct me if im wrong please

Zig: Lower notes as needed according to Kap.....yes, need to reduce money supply....

JoeSchmoe: so how do they get those lds in?

JoeSchmoe: value increase

Tebow: why are the Iraqis hording the large notes and not deposit in banks...... They know

Zig: Still do not trust banks...

spankie: banksters

Spectra: @Tebow yes they know....

JoeSchmoe: anyone that thinks my questions are valid, and that I remember what he says correctly, please ask him because I will forget.

Zig: Citizens of Iraq do not trust their banks.....Yet.....especially older people....

Tebow: he has no answers   Tebow: same here lol

Zig: If the amount of Dinar out there is even close what some say it still is, you can't have an overnight large RV according to people like Kap and sandyf....

Tebow: @Zig so with Kaps gradual float a boat theory, the people in Iraq do not trust the banks and will keep their dinars, the dinar will float to equal over time to $1 USD and they will still be $45 TRILLION in debt and bankrupt! Makes sense to me!

Tebow: @Zig which will at 45 trillion in debt make the dinar worthless as it is now!

Clay: @Tebow if not at least a dollar Iraqis will never use the dinar   has to be at least $1

Tebow: yes

Clay: @Tebow and thats good for me for now

Zig: No....the 000 notes will be difficult to use....same as us trying to use a 1,000 bill....so they will bring their notes to banks to exchange them for lower notes which they can use in stores, etc.....

Clay: @Tebow used to hope for 3+

Tebow: srill hope for 3+

Clay: @Tebow yep Clay: @Tebow just let them do it already

spankie: what if they stop the use of the usd

Zig: THERE IS NO GUARANTEE IN THIS

spankie: no more multi currency practice

Tebow: @Zig makes no difference if they exchange one 1000 note for 1000 1 dinar notes still a thousand. 45 trillion is still 45 trillion in debt.

Zig: HAVE TO STOP WITH EXPECTATIONS....IT IS A SPECULATIVE INVESTMENT

Clay: @spankie thats what they said 2 years ago use of dinar only alot of good that did

spankie: only when they start   spankie: later clay- dont work too hard--

Spectra: Then and now - Economy--Iraq.....https://youtu.be/UhqCVsGhnu4
Spectra: https://youtu.be/UhqCVsGhnu4
Spectra: This video has subtitles

Spectra: Government of Iraq Published on Apr 19, 2018 In 2014, the newly elected Iraqi Goverment faced a serious economic crisis, exacerbated by a collapse in o

Zig: KAPERONI & ENORRSTE (DINAR ALERT) CONFERENCE CALL TONIGHT!...DETAILS AT http://www.iqdcalls.com/kaperoni.html

Spectra: https://youtu.be/UhqCVsGhnu4
Spectra: looks like saleh..

JoeSchmoe: @spankie that is like saying 'what if they stop the use of usd in mexico, and only allow the peso
JoeSchmoe: they can't or won't stop the use of usd in any country.

JoeSchmoe: with all these questions and scenarios, it seems as if no one will have a win situation. They may need to have a whole new currency altogether : which has always been a fear of mine : since the beginning

Clay: @JoeSchmoe not mine at all  too many countries own dinar   the world would never allow it

Zig: Professional investors always will tell you that you have to leave emotions out of your investing and investing decisions.... 
​Clay: @JoeSchmoe changing their currency with sadaam on it was different

JoeSchmoe: @Clay can we/you be certain that so many countries own dinar?
JoeSchmoe: @Clay there was a time that I was as certain as you

Tebow: @Zig Professional investors also say get good financial advice not from a guru

JoeSchmoe: @Clay but then i realized that many of the gurus had ulterior motives
JoeSchmoe: @Clay the only positive vibes that I can redeem from this is things that I can get outside of the dinar forums  : ie: what my tax guy told me 3 or 4 years ago, and what WF told me when I went in there with my mother.

Zig: @Tebow : Agree...Don't make decisions based on what any GURU ever says...

JoeSchmoe: anything from anyone in here is just words by another. Until you have examples of your own, you cannot be so certain. And even with my own examples, I still question this whole thing

JoeSchmoe: we are all so quick to believe someone elses words because it renews our hope of instant wealth. I am in that same boat....

JoeSchmoe: so again I will put out the possibility that this is all a huge cycle created by some ptb out there to keep us all inested(ing)

Zig: @JoeSchmoe : Now you sound like "blackgold"..... :na

Clay: @JoeSchmoe I';m sure counties have their reserves   even though not international yet
Clay: @JoeSchmoe I got alot of my dinar from my local bank   :every bank owns foreign reserves
Clay: @JoeSchmoe just because the dinar became non international they still have those reserves waiting like us

Zig: @Baxter: Don't know if you saw it but I asked Kaperoni about the amount needed for anyone to donate at Dinar Alert to have full access....he did not know.....

Spectra: the fact he couldn't answer that is kinda strange..: it must be a lot of money.

Zig: @Spectra : Would you ever pay/donate to be at any forum?....Are any worth it??
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Clay: @Zig I never had and wouldnt

Spectra: @Zig i did it a long time ago...

Spectra: @Zig not any more.....

Clay: @Zig no one knows any more then we do  :its all about pumping

Spectra: @Zig Strykers Forum is the one i paid for ...i felt is was not worth it.....

Zig: @Spectra : I was a member at Stryker until he started charging....
Spectra: @Zig too much drama not enough substance..
Spectra: @Zig Really you too -lol

Zig: He can be entertaining....lol
Spectra: @Zig he was entertaining ..ill give him that

Baxter: well.. I will say this... if this goes to mid June.... and hits the 90 day mark.. then the apply for article 8.. Kap will most likely be correct

Spectra: @Zig i thought i seen your name in there ???

Baxter: i really dont care... just give me my dam dime

Spectra: @Zig Hmm were you my adversary?: @Zig were you a mod?

Zig: @Spectra : LOL....I think I once was a member at 10 forums at the same time....an addict...lol

Spectra: @Zig ok

Zig: Not a mod....

Spectra: @Zig well some named zig was a mod at strykers...they copied your name.. i had issues with that Zig..im serious... how long ago or what year were you a member?  2015 for me

Zig: @Spectra : And issues with this Zig as well at times... :Really?.....LOL
Zig: @Spectra : I don't remember the years...

Spectra: @Zig when i first came to this chat ..I thought you were him?
Spectra: @Zig maybe your impostered.?

blackgold: I don't care if KAP is right,Tony,Frank, Benny OOtah , Stryker, MNT Goat or any of those* just give me an RV

blackgold: I was listening to Kap give reasons why Iraq isn't international. Venders in Iraq charge people too much for US dollars. Heck the US rip people off everyday. Our own credit companies and IRS charge us 15 and 20% or higher if we owe money. Thieves. Yet we are international. not to mention gas prices

KJWayne: Last night I heard that MONDAY the dinar was going to pop at $ 3.67 ! THEN I WOKE UP ! It was a GOOD dream !

blackgold: sounds more like a nightmare

KJWayne: No , a nightmare would be to show up at the bank and KAP was the security guard saying YOU can't come in here.


KJWayne: IMO, I don't like or agree with Kap s thinking !
KJWayne: IF it WAS $3.21 and we sanctioned them, then WHY can't it go back to $3.21?

blackgold: Its funny to listen to people ask foolish questions like " Where is all the curreny going to come from for the RV " aaah DUH we print it here remember. Also you won't get cash, its just numbers on a computer. Banks can't ever cover large sums of cash, you must order it first

blackgold: @KJWayne my point exctly

Clay: @KJWayne agree

blackgold: @KJWayne I'll take 1 to 1 at this point

Doug_W: BG U don't need a lot of hard currency when its digital

KJWayne: That's like me saying "I used to weigh 245 ,now I am at 305. Can I go back? Yes but I bet I don't. With the rv I won't CARE !

blackgold: @Doug_W Thats my point, you got it   blackgold: @KJWayne lol

KJWayne: That plastic in your pocket spends just fine.

blackgold: The plastic in our pockets is no different than bitcoin, its all electronic

JoeSchmoe: @KJWayne I don't believe in Kap or trust his motives....however, that $3.21 rate was a saddam imposed rate from what I understand.

blackgold: digital

KJWayne: BINGO !
Spectra: Kirk H. Sowell Retweeted Zaid Al-Ali ‏ @zalali 4h4 hours ago More Some of former PM Maliki's electoral posters have been destroyed by Iraqis, some of whom who have used their shoes to destroy the posters

blackgold: @JoeSchmoe what difference does that make, all rates are imposed

JoeSchmoe: how is it that Maliki can run for a third term? Do they not have term limits over there?

JoeSchmoe: @blackgold I heard someone say that the UN and/or imf didn't recognize that rate

blackgold: Its not their country

JoeSchmoe: @blackgold not saying that its true, but only what I've seen said

KJWayne: The ONLY terms they have is "how much ,you pay ? !"

blackgold: @JoeSchmoe i know

Clay: @JoeSchmoe I think they recognised 2.22

JoeSchmoe: 1-1 seems to be the most viable option
JoeSchmoe: @Clay whatever the rate was before saddam imposed that rate

Clay: @JoeSchmoe and that was b4 they found out about all their resources

KJWayne: The world doesn't recognize 1184 as a rate either.

blackgold: @JoeSchmoe if its true or not many dummies in the USA payed it

JoeSchmoe: guess so

Clay: @JoeSchmoe I'll take 1

JoeSchmoe: I have no clue, as I knew nothing about Iraq in that time
JoeSchmoe: all I cared about back then was how much usd i was making....

blackgold: @JoeSchmoe lol i hear ya

KJWayne: I just want IT to be done at whatever rate THEY decice so I can get on with it !

JoeSchmoe: exactly

blackgold: @JoeSchmoe me too

JoeSchmoe: and you KNOW we can't get away UNTIL something happens

KJWayne: Do ya'll believe IT will be done in THIS month?
JoeSchmoe: no

futuremoney: think I'm going to change my name to "funnymoney"...uuugggh
JoeSchmoe: lol
blackgold: @futuremoney lol

JoeSchmoe: @KJWayne do you think something will happen before elections? I don't

JoeSchmoe: @KJWayne elections May

blackgold: lol
KJWayne: IF this thing IS done BY JULY 1,2018, THANK YOU AND GOODBYE !
KJWayne: First half of the year.

blackgold: I keep looking at all the funny business gong on and to me it looks like the end of the year to next year. hate to say

JoeSchmoe: that was last year lol  : 2020 : I see we are all in this part of the dinar cycle now lol

leroy: hey you guys where can i the zim

futuremoney: omg
JoeSchmoe: @leroy :laugh

JoeSchmoe: @leroy can what the zim.....find a dumpster?

JoeSchmoe: It was hard enough to believe that I could change 1000 dollars into a million. How do you think I feel about turning 60 into a mil lol

blackgold: lots of funny business going on

Spectra: @JoeSchmoe or a trillion

JoeSchmoe: or that lol

JoeSchmoe: when I hear the ZIM being specculated on...it makes me want to give this whole thing up

leroy: serious guys where can i buy the zim

KJWayne: I don't have a clue.

JoeSchmoe: @leroy if you want to have the best chance, albeit a chance, to make money off currency..then dig deep and buy dinar   but be prepared to feel frustration    and doubt   and to be cynical

leroy: look you guys they was saying the same thing about the kuwait currency

Tebow: @Leroy ebay

KJWayne: Kuwait, completely different!

JoeSchmoe: you CAN'T put ZIM i the convo with any of these. Not iqd,kwd,dong, NONE

Tebow: who was saying

Spectra: @leroy dont compare kuwait to zim

JoeSchmoe: you can't even compare kuwait to iraq: well you can, but you dont want to

KJWayne: Leroy, DON'T DO IT !  BUY DONG before ZIM !

futuremoney: the zim is no longer used in country..why would it rv???????

leroy: i know people personally that didnt buy it in then 7months later they turned the currency on

JoeSchmoe: @leroy that has nothing to do with any of this

KJWayne: @leroy OK go ask them where to buy it . I don't know!

JoeSchmoe: @leroy i KNow a person who made millions off the kwd too, but he invested millions to make millions   he is the one that introduced me to the dinar : @leroy iqd e: the kwd never got below .07 cents think

leroy: i have plenty of the iraq dinar and dong

JoeSchmoe: good, get rid of your zim or wallpapter it
JoeSchmoe: I was foolish enuf to buy some Rial too, but luckily only spend $12

JoeSchmoe: @leroy once you watch this thing long enough, like most of us have, then you will notice the pattern of things, the cycle of how everything goes here

Tebow: Zim is worthless. Say you have a 100 trillion note and it Rv to 1 Zim to one USD. Does zimbaher have assets to cover that? Now multiply that by the number of Zim notes out there. Now get out the fairy dust

spankie: country is broke   spankie: thing that saves iqd is the future oil sales

Doug_W: @Tebow it didn't work   Doug_W: @Tebow STILL no RV lol

larrykn: I see they want to teach the people about the deleting of the zeros, also bright out the lower notes

Doug_W: @larrykn IF that article is in fact true YES

larrykn: well what gets me is what Kap said, how can they bring out the lower notes if the value will start at 1184

Doug_W: @larrykn great Q

larrykn: doesn't add up

Doug_W: @larrykn who would uyse / need them

larrykn: they be worth less then tp

Doug_W: @larrykn yup

larrykn: I get a kick out of some people know how this is all going to play out lol

Zig: They wouldn't bring out lower notes until needed.....

Doug_W: it IS fun to watch them make an @$$ of themselves

larrykn: yep

futuremoney: who even knows if there are LD's...

larrykn: @futuremoney there are many articles saying they are out

futuremoney: I haven't seen any  : only ones saying they are out is gurus

Zig: BS

larrykn: it make sence for them to have them if they are going to have a higher value

futuremoney: but there is no value!!

larrykn: not yet

futuremoney: so why would they be out now????

larrykn: if you don't think they will have a higher rate why are you here

futuremoney: they aren’t  : I'm saying the LD are not out!!

larrykn: if they are getting ready to raise the value they would have to have them out

futuremoney: you don't understand..they would be worth nothing now

larrykn: if they were going to start at 1184 they wouldn't need them for now

futuremoney: no one is going to use that

larrykn: I agree
​larrykn: but once they raise the value they will need them

futuremoney: they might be ready...but they are not out in public

larrykn: no I agree

Zig: IF THEY RAISE THE VALUE

larrykn: @Zig not if but when :)

futuremoney: raise the value..then introduce the LDs as needed

Zig: IMO that is unknown....what they will ever do...

larrykn: once they open the private sector they will need to raise the value
larrykn: that is the question,, when will they do that

larrykn: IMO for now it looks like after elections, which never made sence to me because it seems to me Adabi would be better off to do it before elections

dinard: Any more guru appearances scheduled for today?
Zig: Maybe "tman23" if we can meet his appearance fee.... :na;
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Rrrr:
What a Journey we’ve had, so much has been learned, seems the longer we last, the more lessons we’ve learned. Delays come and go, by now it’s expected, we must stay the course, do not get dejected. Our moment is so close, you can smell it in the air. Trust the timing to God, Put your trust in his care. Let me say to you all, this one final confession, this journey has been truly, a Magnificent Obsession!

It can’t be stopped now… everything is in motion…. Everything’s been done…way across the ocean. Our energy is rising to an unprecedented High…. So hard to stay Grounded… despite how hard we try. Our time is finally here… no doubts… no fears, there’s a bright light approaching, and it’s full of good cheer. So, one more time… Thank you Tony, Ray and Friends…. For this incredible Coming…. This Glorious Godsend.

Tishwash:
Zimbabwe in tight timeline to repay arrears, seek more funding link


Zimbabwe stuck on Monday to its plan to clear its debt arrears by September with the aim to tap international capital markets by the end of the year, though that timeline would be “very fast-tracked.” Zimbabwean officials met with investors in New York in search for cash that would clear about $1.8 billion in arrears with the World Bank and the African Development Bank. Repayment would unlock more cash from the ADB and is necessary to tap other sources of development financing.

“We need to clear the ADB and World Bank before we’re able to go into a program with the IMF,” said John Mangudya, governor of the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe, at a press event following the investors’ meeting. “What we need is a bridge financing from the likes of these investors,” he said. In 2016, Zimbabwe paid off 15 years’ worth of arrears to the International Monetary Fund. The timeline for the arrears payment and the added funding “is possible, but it would be very fast-tracked,” said Dean Tyler, head of fixed income at Exotix Capital, which hosted the meeting.

Some 40 to 50 international investors, institutions and hedge funds among them, attended the meeting, according to Tyler, and it follows a similar meeting in London last month. The pitch to investors comes shortly after Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe’s president for nearly 30 years, was forced to resign following a de facto army coup last November.

Zimbabwe became a pariah in the West after Mugabe’s government was accused of rigging votes and abusing human rights, and over the years it has turned to China for investment to help an economy desperate for new infrastructure. link

BANK STORY, 19 APRIL

SCCHSBEBLESSED:
I just stopped at one of our small Wells Fargo branches in my hometown in Wisconsin to transfer some money to our grandson at college. I asked the teller if she had been trained in any new foreign currency processing. She stepped back, looked to the side with a smirk on her face, and then said, yes! Then I asked her when they were going to start using it. She paused, looked at me. . . and said, “it’s supposed to start going live TODAY . . . how did you know about all this? I just smiled and left. Time will tell.

RV/INTELLIGENCE ALERT, 19 APRIL

Current Overview:

(Disclaimer: The following is an overview of the current situation based on rumors from several sources which may or may not be truthful or accurate.)


- The Alliance have the Cabal surrounded and know their every move in this game of 4D Chess.


- Some rogue Cabal elements still remain and are being offered by the Alliance to surrender. If not, it's off to the Galactic Central Sun, in other words, death. Most chose the latter.


- All events are falling into place as planned.


- Zimbabwe is immensely rich in gold and rare earth elements which is already backing the country's currency under the new quantum financial system.


- GESARA will be enacted once the collapse of the global economy is visible.


- The enactment of GESARA will result in the activation of the new quantum financial system.


- Upon the activation of the new financial system, all currencies will be reset based on each country's assets and agriculture.


- Prosperity packages will be given to citizens of various countries, but not all.


- Many countries will need humanitarian aid.


- The RV will begin before the enactment of GESARA.


- The elusive release of the RV is set to be at any moment.

KTFA: "Nothing else to do" , 19 APRIL

DELTA » April 18th, 2018

IT LOOKS LIKE CBI DID PRINT MORE CURRENCY FOR THE LAST 3 MONTHS..

CBI Financial Situation Tables (wink)

Financial Situation Tables For 2018- January / February / March

https://cbi.iq/page/73

Yrmailmann » April 18th, 2018


Hope it is ours much waited lower denoms

Manaolana3 » April 18th, 2018

Delta, Per our Monday CC, citizens are encouraged to bring in their currencies to exchange their three zero notes for LD's? The CBI must be expecting a deluge of them notes from the citizens! 

Another Stellar MCC! Thank you Frank, Tink, Walkingstick, Delta, I-Teams, AG,

Newshounds: Samson, Don961, JJ, JLB, and Militia Man for his Perspectives

Salient Points from MCC All IOO! 

Delta: Citizens are expected to come into the banks with their currencies to exchange their three zero notes

Delta: New salary scale due to ghost employees; they had to do salary reforms

Delta: When they reinstate, the taxes will kick in, but the rate has to come first

Samir Al Nusairi: Iraq has high tech system (Article VIII)

IMF to Alak: They will be integrated globally

Alak to IMF: We are ready to lift the three zeroes from the exchange rate...there are no more targets

Gen Mgr Rafadin Bank: In order for them to activate their ATMs, they must remove the three zeroes from their dinar exchange rate

CBI: They will send email to the banks and provide them 24-hr advance notice to turn on their ATM machines; CBI also notified some banks that participated in the classes of 2017 including Walkingstick's firm and other companies

Walkingstick: Two weeks ago they (CBI) gave us notice to turn on the ATMs; they will give a 24-hr period. Walkingstick firms have a total of 16 ATM machines.

Walkingstick: Many firms in Iraq were notified when to turn on their ATM machines; "chatter among many"

Walkingstick: Arab meeting was to unify the Arab currencies: AAD must not exceed $4.38

Walkingstick: Security/Stability- Counterfeit Policies: they have the means to detect counterfeit of the old and new currencies

Delta: Iraq can change their rate anytime before the 30th. IMF will update their rate to the CBI. There is no reason for Iraq not to do this, this month

Frank, Walkingstick Delta, Teams: THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO DO

President Trump: Syria strike (WE ARE READY=WAR) MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Alak: We modernized our currency; we are lifting the three zeroes from the exchange rate; we are meeting with the media to give them the new rate and the instructions

Alak: WE ARE READY!!!

MilitiaMan » April 18th, 2018


At this stage there are no coincidences in timing. This is an on going process and apparently cyncronized with the IMF in D.C and this mornings meeting with the EU and Iraq.. imo - MM

Don961 » April 18th, 2018

{Arab Monetary} Looking for financial safety indicators


17/4/2018 12:00 am 
In a workshop organized in cooperation with the International Monetary Fund

Abu Dhabi / Follow-up morning

A workshop on "Financial Safety Indicators" organized by the Institute for Economic Policy in the Arab Monetary Fund in cooperation with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Center for Economics and Finance in the Middle East opened at the headquarters of the Fund in Abu Dhabi from April 15 to 19.

"In view of the liberalization of financial markets and the resulting capital flows, and recognizing the importance of systemic risk to financial systems, the Director General of the Board of Directors of the Institute for Economic Policy, Saud Al-Briqan, said in a speech on behalf of the Director General, Abdulrahman bin Abdullah Al-Humaidi, There has been a great interest by decision makers in the importance of collecting proactive information for relevant indicators to ensure the stability of the financial system.

" Control of the financial system and the "Financial safety indicators are the most important tools through which the control of the financial system to determine the ability of this system to deal with fluctuations in the movement of capital."

"The workshop will focus on providing participants with the concepts, definitions, sources and methods of collecting financial safety indicators on the indicators and how to analyze them, how to collect, derive and disseminate financial safety indicators data, as well as preparation of sectoral data and compilation of financial safety indicators. Indicators through participants' presentations and presentation of the status of their countries. " 

"The workshop seeks to present the concepts and definitions related to these indicators and identify the sources of their data, as well as to identify the methods used in the process of data collection and dissemination," he explained. "The indicators are divided into fundamental indicators and favorable indicators addressing the core indicators of depository institutions such as capital adequacy, Asset quality, profitability, liquidity, and sensitivity to market risk 

"The preferred indicators are those relating to depository institutions and other financial institutions as well as non-financial institutions, the family sector in addition to the liquidity of the stock market and real estate markets." 

Al Barikan expressed the hope that the workshop on "Financial Safety Indicators" will achieve the desired objectives of deepening the knowledge of participants in this important subject. Financial sector status The importance of financial safety indicators is reflected in their ability to describe the financial sector's situation and safety in the country concerned, so that decision makers can address and address vulnerabilities in a timely manner and thereby avoid similar financial crises. 

"These indicators serve as an early warning, allowing some time to deal proactively, scientifically and carefully with the challenges facing the economy, and correcting its course. Experiments have taught us that the time, effort and money needed to deal with financial crises are far beyond what we are capable of Early warning to deal with such crises link

Samson » April 18th, 2018

Iraq signs a financial reform agreement with a European grant


of 15.6 million euros

18th April, 2018

Planning Minister Salman Jumaili said during a meeting with European Union Ambassador in Iraq Ramon Blikwa and World Bank Representative Emmanuel Covillet on Wednesday that a 15-million-euro agreement on financial reform in Iraq was signed to strengthen regulatory institutions and develop public financial management. The country.

Al-Jumaili said in a statement that "the signing of this agreement is the first outcome of the Kuwait conference, which is officially achieved. We signed with the European Union an agreement on the program to strengthen the supervision of public financial management and strengthen accountability institutions." 

"This program is a complement to a package of programs that the European Union has been looking at for years on governance in sound financial management," he said. "These programs are related to the promotion of the discourse of tolerance and information, including education, as well as programs related to the development of local administrations and strengthening the capacity of the Ministry of Justice and Interior to manage governance," he said. 

"There is a set of previous programs for this program which falls within the framework of the cooperation agreement with the European Union. After the Kuwait conference, it gave an obligation to grant Iraq 400 million euros over three years." He added that "this agreement is the first of these programs, stressing the continuation of the follow-up to the outputs of the Kuwait Conference revealing the formation of a national team form, which opened the countries that have made or expressed their willingness, both in the field of grants or loans or investments during the Kuwait Conference, we received answers from more than Ten countries so far and we are waiting for answers from other countries that confirm these commitments formally. "

"The Ministry of Planning and the Reconstruction Fund of Iraq is fully prepared to implement or cooperate with these commitments to translate into reality through which we can reconstruct in the liberated areas and in all governorates of Iraq." "We are pleased with this constructive international cooperation that we have seen from the international community, which did not come from a vacuum, but came after Iraq proved capable of building itself and after liberating all its territory and realizing that Iraq is a key element in achieving security and peace in the region," he said. B "EU efforts" "The Iraqi government continues to cooperate with all international bodies that are willing to provide support to Iraq."

For his part, Ambassador of the European Union in Iraq, Ramon Belkoa, said that "this agreement is the first fruits of the Kuwait Conference," noting that "this is very important because it will have an important relationship to the reconstruction as well as economic and political reform, which is entrusted by the European Union, Especially in the fight against corruption as well as accounting and provide better services and this is the focus of this program. " 

"Iraq is a rich country, but it needs a better management of resources and, more importantly, accountability and fighting corruption," he said. "There is coordination with donors who will provide grants to Iraq, as well as using resources better. "This is an important issue and the EU will always stand with Iraq in its challenges," he said. "After getting rid of an oppressor, he will face the greatest challenge and work towards building a better future." 

The European Union and the World Bank will participate in the implementation of this agreement, which will complement the World Bank's $ 41.5 million program launched in 2017 as the modernization of public financial management systems. LINK

Iran turns from dollar to euro in foreign transactions

18th April, 2018

According to local media on Wednesday that Iran has shifted from the dollar to the euro in foreign official transactions. 

The decision was taken at a cabinet meeting as the government seeks to manage exchange rates and support the falling riyal. LINK

International Monetary Fund warns of collapse of world trade system

17th April, 2018

The International Monetary Fund warned Tuesday of the collapse of the current world trade system, citing the US-China confrontation over customs duties.

The IMF has used its semi-annual World Economic Report to note that policymakers need to calm the fears of their country's citizens before the end of the current period of growth that exceeds expectations, highlighting the Fund's growing concerns that it will stimulate Voter doubts to take protective measures. " 

Japan, the world's third-largest economy, has been criticized by US President Donald Trump for trade and has been charged with imports of steel and aluminum, but Tokyo has not threatened to impose countervailing duties. LINK

Don961 » April 18th, 2018

A very successful meeting between PM Abadi and PM Abe ... is it a coincidence ... or part of a plan ... that PM Abe is now in Florida with President Trump ?? ... As leaders of their respective countries , they are reported to have a very good relationship .... golf buddies , etc. ... interesting timing ... imo 

Planet of Iraq

17/4/2018 12:00 am 

Abbas al-Sabbagh 

Prime Minister of Japan (Shinzo Abe) hit the truth with his fair description of Iraq: "Just as you shoot in Iraq against Japan, the planet of Japan will also be the planet of Iraq." He pointed to Japan's visionary strategy on the Iraqi scene and the Japanese side's understanding of Iraq's desire to reach prosperous countries Such as Japan.

It is a reference to what was happening in the social networking sites of descriptions of this ambitious ambition, such as the (Japan), which was launched by some aspirants with a great sigh, but this dream became closer to verification after the Prime Minister of Japan to the possibility of achieving this, But was based on facts and facts on the ground, and was not far from the similarity between the modern history of both countries after the experience of devastating wars and the absurdity of their government and the destruction caused by the huge mistakes made by the decision makers They are the heavy price paid by their peoples. 

He also discussed Japan's vision of the Iraqi reality, and estimated the actual need for its reconstruction. It organized a conference on "Job Creation, Labor Qualification, Training and Professional Development in Iraq," in which Iraq participated, represented by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and attended by prominent Japanese personalities, The European Union and the presence of representatives of 30 countries and international organizations at an international forum, which Iraq aspires to be an additional qualitative step to the Kuwait donors conference . 

Iraq, after having committed itself to the principles of democracy and the peaceful transfer of power, and after achieving a decisive victory over terrorist gangs, and having succeeded in bridging its good relations with the countries of the world, symbolized the image of a new Iraq, democratic and peaceful, open and reflecting the success of Iraqi diplomacy in this endeavor. With the international community as a whole and in accordance with international law. The visit is important because it coincides with the start of Iraq's construction phase, especially since Japan did not indicate that it was involved in the polar conflict in the world or the Middle East. 

This is consistent with the policy of neutrality and exclusion from the policy of involvement in the alliances or axes adopted by Iraq and also in line with the Japanese foreign policy and Japan's association with important political and economic relations with most countries of the world, thus enhancing Iraq's diplomatic asset no matter what Iraq needs in these circumstances. The visit was a valuable opportunity to get a closer look at the Japanese experience. 

This successful visit comes after all of Iraq's ability to win the world's confidence, respect and support in all its internal, external, economic, security, political, investment and even social policies. Experiences of the country especially those that enjoy a high global reputation As a Japanese. From this point of view, the visit is gaining its importance from being coinciding with the start of Iraq in the stage of construction and reconstruction and the opening of the Iraqi market for investment. 

Al-Abbadi said during the conference that Iraq looks forward to the future and has all the elements of the renaissance and development and after it moved to the stage of construction and reconstruction and will triumph in them as it won on terrorism, and that Iraq looks forward after this victory to reconstruction and development and economic development and that it has the energies to do so .

The most important results obtained by Iraq: the possibility of entering Japanese companies giant in various investment sectors in Iraq and reach a number of important agreements with the Japanese government, especially related to the completion of the water project of Greater Basra, the reclamation of land between the Tigris and Euphrates, Four 400 kV power stations will be provided in Maysan, Muthanna, Shatt al-Arab and Shatrah, as well as 12 mobile stations (132 kV), most of which will be operational before the summer of 2018 to increase electricity production in Iraq. 

The establishment of factories for the manufacture of cars inside Iraq and the provision of after-sales services, and continued cooperation in the fields of oil, energy, electricity, services, education, industry, etc., and the good is coming to the planet of Iraq link

BR Update April 18 20181

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 19 APRIL

4-19-2018   Intel/Newshound Guru American Contractor   ...In the course of the next few months you may quite possible see media reporting about a delete the zeros project.   According to the intel I have, as well as info I received today from a banker, the delete the zeros project is going to be progressing at a much faster pace, and word has it that new information will be published after Ramadan.  ...Everything from this point on is riding on the upcoming national and local elections (May 12).  There appears to be a vast more supporters than not for the delete the zero's project...  [post 2 of 2]

4-19-2018   Intel/Newshound Guru American Contractor   ...You may see some action possible after the elections depending on which party has control of the government.  The Iraqi parliament will have to vote on the delete the zeros project given that they did not get the opportunity in 2012.  The Iraqi cabinet stopped it because they believed the economic climate was not yet ready.  ...Oil prices are continuing to go up and businesses are returning although cautiously and investing in startups and existing companies...   ...You will learn of the delete the zeros project getting ready to be implemented when you read that there is a education campaign going on inside Iraq.  The education campaign will consist of news media, flyers, and radio advertising to get the word out.  The CBI wants to make sure that everyone is informed about the delete the zeros project...   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

4-19-2018   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article:  "Instructions and criteria for circulation and replacement of banknotes"   There is an extraordinary amount of information in this article – just stunning. They are obviously preparing for something. What? No clue...but this key phrase seems to forecast some need for small denominations of notes.   Key Phrase: ..."Banks should open windows to replace damaged and damaged banknotes to the public and hand them over to this bank and its branches, And promoting the circulation of small denomination banknotes”

4-19-2018  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Another great day [Wednesday] on the CBI auction spread 1201 dinars to $1 US dollar. Well within 2% IMF compliance for 33rd consecutive day.

4-19-2018  Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat   ...Iraq is still progressing forward with the reviews and relationship with the World Bankk to join the WTO. They will, however, need a tradable currency at some point. So we wait for this too to give pressure to RV.

IQD Update News (RANT# 136)

ADMINBILL TIDBIT, 19 APRIL


WSOMN CHAT, 19 APRIL

TED1016
Most Gracious and Heavenly Father, I know many members are suffering but I have never doubted the RV would happen just worried about when it would happen. I want to encourage each of you to take some time and give thanks for what you have not what you want to have. Keep the faith always. Remember that no matter how bad you are suffering many are suffering even more. Again tonight I will say my requested prayers sent to me from some of our members. We all know this is close.

Dear Lord God Almighty, Lord Jesus we come to you during these early morning hours and ask that you intervene on our behalf to bring this blessing forward as quickly as possible. We have members in great need of relief from the troubles that surround them that can be resolved through this investment. Silly that it may seem that we ask our God for help with this matter as it is important to many who are here.

May the good Lord reach down and touch your heart tonight. Sweet dreams and may visions of sugar plumbs dance in your mind. Sleep well this early morning and God bless each and every one of you this day in a very special way. “Our Destiny Awaits”

Opps 4-18-18




adminbill
GOOD MORNING WSOMN. I TRUST EVERYONE IS WELL TODAY. THIS IS A GOOD WEEK.




sonja
Admin...a good week for?




CindyLou
At this point I'm sure you're limited as to what you can say admin. But can you tell me this cuz I'm not sure if eyes are just old or crazy. Is the hatter a little greener?




yarcrafterjim
I'm waiting to hear the answer to sonja's question!!! LOL.




CindyLou
Darn it maybe our questions ran him off. Hope not




adminbill
OIL AT $68 A BARREL. SYRIA HYPE QUIETING. NOTHING IMPORTANT BEING REPORTED IN THE ATTACK MEDIA OF ANY CONSEQUENCE.




adminbill
SONJA - FOR ANYTHING

HOPE IS ALIVE AND WELL...




yarcrafterjim
I can't pay for my truck repairs with hope!




adminbill
AND I CAN'T BUY HEARING AIDS BUT I PLAN TO VERY SOON




CindyLou
Okay I'll be brave I'll ask it. Bill are we good for this month? In your opinion obviously sir thank you




adminbill
GM CINDYLOU - I BELIEVE THAT IS A VIABLE OPTION




yarcrafterjim
Bill, if that's an option, as you suggest, I'm ready to exercise mine right now!




adminbill
CHECKING EMAIL - BACK IN A BIT




RAB
Keep this under your hats, but I have it on very good authority that the RV will occur either sometime before or sometime after the elections in May.




yarcrafterjim
RAB, you could certainly be a GURU. Thank you for that!




RAB
jim: You should hear my BS --- "bank story".




yarcrafterjim
I wonder what happened to Bill. Maybe he didn't have anything good in his emails.




RAB
It only makes sense that it would be to Abadi's advantage for this to occur prior to the elections. The Shiite majority is sufficiently divided to possibly keep him from re-election if he isn't able to bring this across the finish line. Seems his biggest threat is Malaki. That, in and of itself, is unbelievably amazing.

Point being, if Malaki is elected, I fear we may be in for a long and tortuous period before the likelihood of an RV occurs.




Pavy
If any one has the new access code for Friday’s private call with Carlos could you pm me please thanks




CindyLou
Don't forget Wing it Call tonight. https://instantteleseminar.com/Events/107046921 or If you don't have access to the web, you can listen in by dialing (206) 402-0100, and using the following conference pin: 012309# Starts at 8pm




Chuckyboy
Ok me too please for the new PIN number for the Carlos call please and thank you




lostnq8
who is carlos - first time i have heard of him




Sunnysplace
JUST HEARD....TNT BOYS ARE SAYING TODAY 4:20 TO TUESDAY FOR RV!!!!!!!

WELL, I THINK I WILL JUST SIT TIGHT AND WAIT IT OUT......OHHH. AND. BREATHE....




dpchamp wrote
20h ago
Sunny, I think he meant 4/20 instead of time 4:20 (I thought that at first, too)…later he did say between now and Tuesday




Sandnsea
Hi Guys — ready?




txforever
Hi all, does anyone know the Wingit call is at 8:00 pm central time or Eastern Tim? Thanks for the help




TED1016
8:00 Eastern




halfdozen
GOOD DAY DLAND! DNATION! PASTOR MCCRARY HERE! TODAY 4-18-18 @ 8:18 PM CST I WANT EVERYONE ALL OVER THE WORLD TO PRAISE AND THANK JEHOVAH FOR THE VICTORY OF OUR EXCHANGE! 605-475-4810 CODE 688330# IF YOU CANT DIAL IN, PRAISE AND MAGNIFY HIM FROM WHERE YOU ARE! TONIGHT @ 8:18 PM CST




STAG1
Did Pastor Mcary exchange sounds like it in the wording of victory of our exchange?




Dreams2
thanks didn't know they were doing the wingit calls again




zejaybee
Stag - or a positive affirmation?




halfdozen
Sorry, Stag that’s not the case.




Greenrage
Art said Okie is not in good shape.




Whimsy
Wethrin good evening do you know if AdminBill posted any updates I just now got time to check room and can't go back to see if he posted anything . Thanks




dpchamp
Whimsy, AB talked in the room this morning...about 12 hours ago