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Saturday, March 3, 2018

OOOTAH Conf Call w/Becky & Nancy

IQD Budget Re-Update (RANT# 99)

TNT UPDATED, 3 MARCH

TNT UPDATE - SATURDAY, MARCH 3, 2018

THE APPROVED BUDGET IS BEING SHOWN ON IRAQ TV INDICATING PAYMENTS BEING ENABLED TO ALL EMPLOYEES. PAYMENT FOR THE KURDS WILL COMMENCE ON SUNDAY.
 
THE BUDGET IS EXPECTED TO APPEAR IN THE GAZETTE ON TODAY! WHAT NEXT? - RATE INCREASE, OF COURSE. LOL
 
THE HCL AND ARTICLE 140 WILL SOON BE REFERRED TO IN THE PAST TENSE.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 3 MARCH

3-3-2018   Newshound/Intel Guru Mnt Goat   Article quote:  "Based on a directive issued by the Ministry of Industries, Mining and Trade, the ministry-affiliated National Trade System announced that as of Wednesday, all traders are prohibited from registering their import orders using the US dollar."  ...this will have long term consequences for trading relations with Iraq if the CBI does not move forward with the reinstatement of the Iraqi dinar and get the dinar traded globally. Remember we have been told the GCC voted on all countries in the middle eastern GCC pact to trade using their own currencies. Are you beginning to see the pressure here in getting this currency reform process completed?

3-3-2018   Intel Guru RayRen98   THE APPROVED BUDGET IS BEING SHOWN ON IRAQ TV INDICATING PAYMENTS BEING ENABLED TO ALL EMPLOYEES.  PAYMENT FOR THE KURDS WILL COMMENCE ON SUNDAY.   THE BUDGET IS EXPECTED TO APPEAR IN THE GAZETTE ON TODAY! WHAT NEXT? - RATE INCREASE, OF COURSE. LOL   THE HCL AND ARTICLE 140 WILL SOON BE REFERRED TO IN THE PAST TENSE. 

3-3-2018   Intel Guru Frank26   Articles:  "The Iraqi parliament passes the budget despite the injustice that affects the Kurds in it"   "Prime Minister congratulates all Iraqi people to launch the general budget law for the year 2018"    UNDER GREAT PRESSURE...A HAS NOW KEPT HIS PROMISE...TO FALL INSIDE OF...IMO OF COURSE...A TIME FRAME HE GAVE TO THE 3 HEADED MONSTER...1ST TIME EVER THEY PASS A BUDGET ... NOTE: ...THE BUDGET RESPECTED THE 1ST QT!!!   THEY PASSED THE BUDGET / HCL...   "IT CAME OUT IN TRILLIONS"...AND WHAT DID WE SAY IF IT CAME OUT IN TRILLIONS?!   ...THE RI DOES NOT NEED YOU...BUT...DO YOU NEED THE RI?   ...YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP.

3-3-2018   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article:  "Kurdish official: Baghdad committees completed the audit of salaries of the region by 96%"   My first reaction is…They had to do an AUDIT Because the CROOKED Kurdish leadership was asking for salary money for 50,000 employees that didn’t exist!! It’s no wonder Baghdad kicked them in the 8@!!$$  with 12.5% of the budget thing…

TNT CC, 3 MARCH


IQD CHAT, 3 MARCH

meatball: @Onepence ... what proof do you have that the USD will be removed as normal trade unit as you claimed?
 
Spectra: Club Of Rome https://youtu.be/mIKSs4JFDOU
 
Spectra: social engineering right under the nose of everyone.
 
Onepence: @meatball ... The proof is the known constant of change .. At one point the USD was gold backed ... now it's not ... Thus rational proof is the only constant is change ...
 
Whitelions: WoW Poof up in smoke

HandsomeRob: So I’m not clear about all this zim talk... I thought that currency was dead literally!! I only ask bc I still have some of the old currency from 2008/09. Can someone please clear up for me
 
Baxter: it is as dead as a doornail
 
HandsomeRob: So what’s all the talk about Zims in all the guru sights and all the calls lately
 
Baxter: thats all it is... guru talk.... zim hasnt been a currency since 2009... zim is selling some bonds.... but these gurus just want to pump you up... it is absolutely worthless... just a min
 
TWW: @HandsomeRob Hang on ur Zim dont let anybody talk u out of keeping them, lets see what happens when the global reset takes place.
 
Baxter: The Zimbabwean dollar (sign: $, or Z$ to distinguish it from other dollar-denominated currencies) was the official currency of Zimbabwe from 1980 to 12 April 2009. During this time, it was subject to periods of above-average inflation, followed by a period of hyperinflation.[3] The Zimbabwean dollar was introduced in 1980 to directly replace the Rhodesian dollar at par (1:1), at a similar value to the US dollar.
 
Over time, hyperinflation in Zimbabwe reduced the Zimbabwe dollar to one of the lowest valued currency units in the world. It was redenominated three times (in 2006, 2008 and 2009), with denominations up to a $100 trillion banknote issued.
 
[4] The final redenomination produced the "fourth dollar" (ZWL), which was worth 1025 ZWD (first dollars). Use of the Zimbabwean dollar as an official currency was effectively abandoned on 12 April 2009. It was demonetised in 2015, with outstanding accounts able to be reimbursed until April 30, 2016.
 
[5][6] In place of the Zimbabwean dollar, currencies including the South African rand, Botswana pula, pound sterling, Indian rupee, euro, Japanese yen, Australian dollar, Chinese yuan, and the United States dollar are now regularly used.[7][8]
 
Baxter: it is worthless
Baxter: Now... they may introduce a new currency at some time... but those old notes... are nothing but a conversation piece
 
TWW: @Baxter if they, ZIM, is exchangeable I am going to LMAO at all the naysayers, If it doesnt exchange, I will have some nice wall paper, just going to hang on to them for now.
 
Baxter: good luck... also... good luck with your global reset
 
TWW: @Baxter TY Baxter
 
HandsomeRob: Ty @baxter
 
Baxter: yw...
Baxter: TWW... you ought to listen to PTR.. they are global reset finatics... or are you a member
 
TWW: @Baxter I hav no idea who PTR is, no idea, who r they
 
Baxter: you have to join... 20 bucks a month
 
TWW: @Baxter As u kno, I am a numbers guy. I have enough of other currencies that will make up with the little bit I have in ZIMs
 
Baxter: thats good.... cause you wont see anything from the dong either for a long time
 
TWW: @Baxter why the * would I pay anyone a fee???? I hope u r kidding
 
Baxter: no.. i am serious...
 
TWW: @Baxter U R NUTS DUDE
 
Baxter: why... cause I am tellin you the truth about PTR?
 
TWW: @Baxter WITH INVESTMENTS itz all long term investing, nothing is short tern mayb an IPO could be. Bax, what does PTR stand for?????
 
Baxter: peoples talk radio
TWW: @Baxter no way
 
Baxter: google it
 
TWW: @Baxter no way   TWW: @Baxter no interest
 
Baxter: thats fine... but it does exist..and its 20 bucks a month
Baxter: they used to have... 4-5 years ago... over 4000 members
 
TWW: @Baxter not payin anyone $20 bucks online
 
Baxter: at 14.95 a month... they raised it to 20 about six months ago
 
TWW: @Baxter I do most of my own investigation in this matter
 
Baxter: thats fine..
 
xyz: Goaty: We just don’t yet know the connection other than the US government and the IMF has put its foot down and told Iraq (mandated to Iraq) that they need a solid budget in place first.
 
This is FACT not some rumor or my opinion. I have researched this and this is what I have found out.
 
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=591218854546844&id=281127528889313
 
xyz: I just hate to see anyone run around and around in circles trying to catch their tail or run around in that rabbit hole. Yes, ** * (and others) I am only trying to help you understand the process are you listening? Maybe then we can all make more sense of it coming from the same level of knowledge.
 
xyz: Scientists reach the "longest family tree" in the world

http://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=160534
 
xyz: Women marry trees in Mexico

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knoozmedia.com%2F316259%2F-&sandbox=1
 
xyz: Wall Street: The Middle East is preoccupied with the elections and we expect a coalition government headed by Abbadi
 
https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=trom&sl=ar&sp=nmt4&u=http://almasalah.com/ar/News/128789/-
 
xyz: Six factors driving Iraz’s sudden currency devaluation

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/02/iran-currency-rial-toman-devaluation-central-bank.html
 
chattels: Abadi's office responds to parliament: We still need foreign troops Editorial Date: 2018/3/2 19:20 • http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=71637
 
chattels: [Ayna-follow-up] Saad al-Hadithi, spokesman for Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, confirmed that the Iraqi parliament has the right to request the departure of foreign troops from the country, but we still need those forces, as he put it.
 
Al-Hadithi said in a press statement that "Parliament has the right to request the departure of foreign troops from Iraq, especially after the defeat of Badash." "The Iraqi government still needs assistance from foreign forces in terms of training and other logistical matters, especially with regard to Syria, where terrorists continue to pose a threat to Iraq," he said.
 
 "It may be possible to change the number of foreign troops in the country, with the path towards greater stability," al-Hadithi said. The parliament voted yesterday to "thank and appreciate" all the forces of the countries that stood with Iraq to fight Daqash, and call on the government to set a timetable for the departure of these forces in Iraqi territory.

TNT UPDATE, 3 MARCH

Revectors:  Rudaw English is reporting the budget passed with Kurds boycotting

Pygmy577:  budget passed   http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/419611

Greyeagle1:  This has the appearance that Abadi is no slouch. Politicolly he upstaged the defiant Kurds on two major agendas within the last 8 months. I agree with the major news media that says nobody in Iraq can beat him. Hope that is true. Time will tell.

Briona:  Looks like they passed the bill without the Kurds voting, wonder how that works

RVAlready:  The amended the rules of procedure last week, so that if the Kurds boycotted, it was just tough luck for the Kurds.

Briona:  Now let's see if they have the new rate in the budget…This is a great start for the weekend, let's end it with an RV

DMBently:  If iraqs news says Billions then the new rate would be in the budget i do believe

GreatlyBlessed:  UPDATE 1-Iraqi parliament approves $88 billion 2018 budget...https://www.reuters.com/article/mideast-crisis-iraq-budget/update-1-ir​aqi-parliament-approves-88-billion-2018-budget-idUSL5N1QL08D

GreatlyBlessed:  The Media the Office AMVerifiedAccount @ IraqiPMO FollowingFollowing @ IraqiPMO More Prime Minister Dr. Haider Abadi congratulates all the Iraqi people to launch the general budget law for the year 2018.

Ivantulafitov:  So what we know about Forex and all the bank signing up at the same time over the weekend we might be able to see this Sunday night I am assuming but then again it is Iraq so what the heck do I know….

Well obviously if the budget is passed that's a good sign it's an awesome time everything else seems to be lined up and there's things that we don't know need to be done who knows but from what we know the next logical step is to revalue their currency

they might reinstate first one to one and then jump to $3 or slowly go to $3 that's all unknown or it might pop right out at three to four dollars right away

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Ivantulafitov:  Speaker of the House of Representatives Salim al-Jubouri that the demands of representatives of the Kurdistan region have been addressed within the provisions of the federal budget for the year 2018…..

the passing of the budget law is the result of cooperation between the legislative and executive branches, despite the many difficulties facing Iraq and the challenges of the post-victory phase of the gangs that support terrorism, efforts to achieve stability and services for liberated cities and reconstruction in all provinces," Abadi said. He called Abbadi, according to the statement, ministries and institutions and departments of the state "

Diamond:  It appears the budget does NOT have the new rate,yet. $1 = 1181 dinar.

Kue911:  CBI can change the rate anytime they want to.

Harambe:  KUWAIT News ... BAGHDAD, March 3 (KUNA) -- The Iraqi parliament has approved the 2018 federal budget valued at around USD 87 billion, with an estimated deficit of USD 10 billion. Some 176 members of parliament voted for the new budget,

AL:  Now the CBI can change the rate .... Keep your eyes looking out for that any minute

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LeeA:  Don't know if this is in the forum. I saved it from somewhere years ag​o. This will be Very very helpful. It's a list of banking terms.
https://www.helpwithmybank.gov/dictionary/index-dictionary.html#

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GreatlyBlessed:  UPDATE 1-Iraqi parliament approves $88 billion 2018 budget

MARCH 3, 2018 / 7:36 AM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO

Reuters Staff

 (Adds details and background)

By Ahmed Aboulenein and Ahmed Rasheed

BAGHDAD, March 3 (Reuters) - Iraq’s parliament approved a budget on Saturday, lawmakers said, but Kurdish MPs boycotted the vote over their region’s allocation.

The budget of 104 trillion Iraqi dinars ($88 billion) is based on projected oil exports of 3.8 million barrels per day (bpd) at a price of $46.

It envisions government revenues of 91.64 trillion dinars ($77.6 billion) with a deficit of 12.5 trillion dinars ($10.58 billion), according to lawmakers.

The projected 3.8 million bpd exports include a 250,000 bpd contribution from Iraq’s semi-autonomous Kurdistan region.

“We boycotted the vote and there are proposals for Kurdistan to withdraw from the entire political process in Iraq over the unfair treatment we have received,” said Kurdish MP Ashwaq Jaff.

The budget trimmed the Kurdistan Regional Government’s share to 12.67 percent, down from the 17 percent the region has traditionally been entitled to since the fall of Saddam Hussein.
 
Oil exports, Iraq’s main source of revenue, have risen above 3.4 million barrels per day this year but a global slump in prices for crude, compounded by the costs of rebuilding an infrastructure damaged by the war against Islamic State, have battered the country’s finances.

Iraq received pledges of $30 billion, mostly in credit facilities and investment, this month from allies at a reconstruction conference in Kuwait, but this fell short of the $88 billion Baghdad says it needs to recover from three years of war.
$1 = 1,181.0000 Iraqi dinars Reporting by Ahmed Aboulenein and Ahmed Rasheed; Editing by Andrew Bolton

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/mideast-crisis-iraq-budget/update-1-iraqi-parliament-approves-88-billion-2018-budget-idUSL5N1Q

KTFA UPDATE, 3 MARCH

Walkingstick:  Parliament completes the vote on the budget bill
https://www.alghadpress.com/news/Iraq-News/145922/AlghadPress

Parliament votes on the budget law and raise its meeting to next Monday

Channel Abba / Private

The House of Representatives announced on Saturday the vote on the budget law of 2018.
"The House of Representatives completed the vote on the federal budget bill for the year 2018," a parliamentary source said.

He added that "the Council raised its meeting to next Monday after the vote on the budget."
Muhannad Khairy

http://www.alebaatv.com/archives/252512

Torch123:   This is good news. They also added 6 amendments to the original 48. They also modified several, and didn't come to agreement on several. Guess we'll let the dust settle.  Enjoy your weekends!!    I also forgot to mention they re-wrote some of article 7 and 9... My understanding is that 9 especially pertains to the HCL

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Walkingstick:  clarification

The Iraqi parliament passes the budget despite the injustice that affects the Kurds in it
http://www.basnews.com/index.php/ar/news/iraq/419609

Jubouri after the adoption of the budget: We gave the Council of Ministers the authority to address any shortage of salaries of staff and social welfare 
http://baghdadtoday.news/ar/ne.....9%8A%D8%A9

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Samson:   In addition to Walkingsticks

 The House of Representatives approves the Budget Law 2018

 3rd March, 2018     

The House voted on Saturday on the draft bill of the budget of 2018.

The source, who preferred not to disclose his name for "Economy News", "The House of Representatives voted on Saturday the draft bill of the budget of 2018."

He added that "the budget of 2018 amounted to 104.1 trillion dinars, while the proportion of current expenditures 79.5 trillion dinars and investment expenditures 24.6 trillion dinars   LINK

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Walkingstick:  Prime Minister congratulates all Iraqi people to launch the general budget law for the year 2018

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi congratulated all the Iraqi people on launching the general budget law for 2018, enabling the government to carry out its responsibilities and implement its development and service policies and projects, its economic and social program and securing the rights and interests of citizens and salaries of employees throughout Iraq. 

He stressed that the passage of the budget law is the outcome of cooperation between the legislative and executive authorities in spite of the many difficulties faced by Iraq and the challenges of the post-victory on the urging and efforts to achieve stability and services for liberated cities and reconstruction in all provinces. 

Abadi called on the ministries, institutions and departments of the state to perform their duties in the best possible way, and the need to work to rationalize spending, maximize state resources and tighten control of public funds.

http://www.dijlah.tv/index.php.....;id=207259

Abadi bless legislation 2018 budget: This is what the government will do for its citizens this year    http://baghdadtoday.news/ar/ne.....8%A7%D9%85

Frank26:  IT WAS JUST POSTED IN TC ............... "IT CAME OUT IN TRILLIONS" ............. "THAT SUCKS" 

TO WHICH I SAID : AND WHAT DID WE SAY IF IT CAME OUT IN TRILLIONS ???!!! 
FOLLOWED BY: ONLY OCTOPUS SUCK…… ROFL

Walkingstick:  it matters not .....

Frank26:  TELL ME BUDGET ........... THE RI DOES NOT NEED YOU .................. BUT ............... I NOW ASK YOU .............. DO YOU NEED THE RI? ................. YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

Frank26:  UNDER GREAT PRESSURE .............. A HAS NOW KEPT HIS PROMISE ................. TO FALL INSIDE OF ............. IMO OF COURSE .............. A TIME FRAME HE GAVE TO THE 3 HEADED MONSTER ................. TA DA FREAKEN DA !!! !!! !!! ....(wink)

Risk1:  Thank's my friend.....That post is what I've been waiting for..

Frank26:  NO ............... THE 2ND ARTICLE IS WHAT U R WAITING FOR.

REMEMBER THE ALAMO?   NOPE.

REMEMBER I SAID ................... SYNCHRONIZATION.

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NeeCee1966:  Thank you so much for everything Frank! It's been a long time coming! God is good. 

Frank26:  YES IT HAS .................. YES HE IS ........ NOTE: 1ST TIME EVER THEY PASS A BUDGET ....... SWEET ALOHA SATURDAY MORNING \M/   NOTE: ............... THE BUDGET RESPECTED THE 1ST QT !!! !!! !!! 

THEY PASSED THE BUDGET / HCL .............

Kingofmlez:  SO FROM THE SOUNDS OF IT ---BUDGET PASSED AND THE HCL. NOW WHEN THE SWITCH IS FLIPPED (LIKE BOOST).  IT CHANGES TO BILLIONS AND EVERYONE IS HAPPY

Naomi:  art 14 dropped; i found this ; Article 14 of the Budget Law, for the first time launched a word of partnership in 2016 -2017 -2018 and gave powers to amend the decisions, and the Basra Oil Company is a successful model in the direction of partnership with the United Nations, which is willing to financial and executive partnership,and this gives a financial sustainability   http://rawabetcenter.com/en/?p=4099

Frank26: TY NAOMI   KEY:  ............... A HAS AND USED HIS POWERS !!!

(Note: Whenever Frank uses bright red print-its important)

Restored Republic via a GCR Update as of March 3 2018

A. March 2 2018 3:29 pm EST: Operation Disclosure GCR/RV Intel Alert for March 2, 2018 https://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com/

1. Zimbabwe's Mnangagwa announced extension of amnesty on externalization to March 16https://www.insiderzim.com/mnangagwa-extends-amnesty-on-externalisation-to-16-march/

2. The Yuan Oil-Gold Future Contracts are planned to go live on March 26.

3. Trump's privately signed Executive Order on behalf of the Alliance was already in effect.

4. The Stock Market was set to collapse under Trump's Executive Order. It would be a bloodbath - estimating a 40-50% plunge in stocks and derivatives, thus forcing the Cabal into bankruptcy as the final blow.

5. The gold/asset-standard woulf be introduced as a solution worldwide.

6. The revised Paris Agreement was signed privately, which means NESARA/GESARA was ready to go.

7. The collapse of the stock market was to begin sometime before March 16.

8. The new financial system should already be in-place sometime after March 16, but before March 26.

9. The RV would begin simultaneously with introduction of the gold/asset-standard. Many would be financially rehydrated. Poverty would be destroyed. Debt would be forgiven. The transition would begin.

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B. March 2 2018 TNT Call

1. On Mon. Feb. 26 the CBI suspended all banks, money transfer companies, etc. in order to comply with the new system and they were given specific time frames to complete the changeover.

2. On Mon. Feb. 26 TNT was told the time and date that the RV/GCR was supposed to take place, but that was dependent on Iraq passing their budget, which they didn't do as they were supposed to yesterday.

3. Today March 2 Iraq posted their budget without the new rates. They are meeting again tomorrow. If they publish the budget tomorrow they will drop in the new rates.

4. The NDA has been finalized at 12 pages (originally 28). Tony has been told he could put it out on his website when he receives it. He has not yet received it.

5. The Dinar screen rate has been set. Yesterday March 1 all of the currency rates were set and ready to go.

6. The $28.50 Dinar Contract rate applied to your first $10 million dinar. The rest of Dinar that you had would be exchanged at the screen rate.

7. Tony was told that if you gave the rest of your Dinar above $10 million to another entity to exchange at the $28.50 Contract rate, that they would take it from you/them, plus it would likely violate your signed Non Disclosure Agreement, resulting in all of your bank accounts being frozen.

8. The NDA would bar you from talking about what exchange rate you received.

9. Due to the limit of only being able to exchange up to 100 Trillion Zim at your first bank appointment, they have worked out a system for you to exchange the rest that you have. They would likely put your Zim notes into a safe place such as SKR.

10. Today March 2 the Dong bank screen rate was at $1 plus.

11. There would be no income tax on your exchange.

12. There were indications that the Global Currency Reset would be made public in two weeks so the general public could exchange.

13. You should make sure your bank accounts were set up to be private so no one, including bank personnel, could look at them.

14. After your exchange your money should be available within 12-24 hours.

15. You could only exchange up to $1 billion total currency. The Zim was a bond, not a currency, so this limit did not include Zim Bond monies used for humanitarian purposes.

16. The only limit on exchange of the Dinar that Tony was aware of was a 30 Dinar note, which had to be exchanged within two years.
C. March 2 2018 10:47 am EST TNT

1. The three presidencies of Iraq met late Thursday evening March 1 and concluded that 12.7% would be allocated for the Kurds in the budget.

2. PM Abadi reportedly agreed to pay only two ministers of Kurdistan, alleging the others were funding corruption.

3. Twelver articles in the budget did get passed, but not the "big one."

4. Sat. March 3 was the intended day for the final votes on the budget, with the Kurds vowing to continue their boycott of the vote.

5. In spite of these issues, the 800 numbers were still expected sometime throughout the weekend.

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OPERATION DISCLOSURE UPDATE, 3 MARCH


Zimbabwe's Mnangagwa announces extension of amnesty on externalization to the 16th.


https://www.insiderzim.com/mnangagwa-extends-amnesty-on-externalisation-to-16-march/


The Yuan Oil-Gold Future Contracts are planned to go live on the 26th.


Trump's privately signed EO on behalf of the Alliance is already in effect.


The stock market is set to collapse under the EO. It will be a bloodbath. Estimating a 40-50% plunge in stocks and derivatives thus forcing the Cabal into bankruptcy as the final blow.


The gold/asset-standard will be introduced as a solution worldwide.


The revised Paris Agreement was also signed privately which means NESARA/GESARA is ready to go.


The collapse of the stock market is to begin sometime before the 16th.


The new financial system should already be in-place sometime after the 16th but before the 26th.


The RV begins simultaneously with the introduction of the gold/asset-standard.


Many will be financially rehydrated.


Poverty will be destroyed.


Debt will be forgiven.


The transition into Nova Earth will begin.

TNT CC NOTES, 3 MARCH


TNT Call 2-March-2018 Replay: 641.715.0623, PIN CODE 409029# https://instantteleseminar.com/Events/105884697 AUDIO REPLAY LINK 

RayRen: Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! This is Fantabulous Friday, March 2, 2018, with yours truly RayRat98 here, along with… 

Tony: Goood morning, TNT! 

RayRen: We had various updates yesterday and this morning: Thursday’s update: After voting on several articles, members of Parliament walked out before voting on and passing the final budget. Kurds are boycotting. Abadi says the vote will be live Saturday on TV so that the citizens can see exactly whom is causing problems with the process. The meeting of the three presidencies regarding the budget was postponed until later in the evening, no update yet. 

Members of Parliament who are absent from voting will be fined. Abadi again on TV warning everyone of serious repercussions due to the budget not being voted and passed as scheduled. I don’t see any of this interfering with our 800 number process but, Time Will Tell. 

Friday morning update: The three presidencies accordingly met late Thursday evening and concluded that 12.7% will be allocated for the Kurds in the budget. 

PM Abadi reportedly agreeing to paying only two ministers of Kurdistan alleging the others are involved in corruption. Twelve articles in the budget did get passed, but not the “big one”. Saturday is the intended day for the final votes on the budget, however, the Kurds are vowing to continue their boycott of the vote. In spite of these issues, the 800 numbers are still expected sometime throughout the weekend! Tony: Even though it’s Friday, votes are being held today. They have 20 laws they want to pass before the Budget; twelve have passed, and the rest will be voted on Sunday. 

Almost two weeks ago, we got the call from Kurdistan saying the Budget was signed and done, just not announced. We keep getting that message from Kurdistan, saying, “You know it’s already been done!” I cannot tell you why they are still doing this. Our sources say it is not up to them; they have done what they were supposed to do, and they are just waiting for the announcement. 

The following came to us on Monday, and I don’t know if that is what they are waiting for or not. The CBI suspended the currency auctions to convert from old to new systems. The memo went out to all banks and exchange companies that they must fully integrate their systems with the new CBI systems. They were given specific time frames to complete their conversion to the new system for a success interface with everyone else. There various state and private banks, plus exchange and credit card companies. CBI has a target date to align all financial institutions. That was on Monday. 

I don’t know if that is what they are waiting for or not. Our banks are updating, and being testing; maybe it’s the same for them, and then this will happen. Something is going on. There are reasons for the Kurds to be in agreement and everything to be signed, but not announced. There’s a reason it’s been going on this long. 

I think it’s a good sign that it will be televised tomorrow. Hopefully everyone is ready to go. On our side, I’m looking at the same thing in the banking system. Possibly something happened yesterday evening. I don’t know if they are listening to this call or not. On Monday, we were told the exact date and time the RV was supposed to take place. That’ why I kept saying I wouldn’t tell you, just that it’s by the end of this week. However, this correlated with the Budget being announced, and that has happened several times already. 

They schedule the RV for when the jBudget is announced, and there are several opinions on whether the Budget is required. Today, Iraq posted the Budget at the old rate; figures are in the trillions rather than billions. However, this shows the Iraqi people exactly what has been allocated to whom. Hopefully that will pass tomorrow, and then it will have the new rate in it. If the Budget comes out tomorrow and its in the trillions, the new rate can be dropped in any time after that. 

The CBI can change that rate whenever it chooses. At least they will have a Budget, something to operate on. Our people gave us a date and time, which was yesterday, and it didn’t happen. So they gave us a new date and time, and that didn’t happen. They have contacted us and say it’s been put off until a new date. Let’s see what happens tomorrow. We did NOT get the rewritten NDA to post here. It has been sent to Washington to be approved, and it was supposed to come to us last night; hopefully we will get it today. I can tell you it started out at 28 pages and it is down to 12 pages now. 

They also broke down the 12 pages for us; some of it’s definitions, some are signature pages, and the rest is the actual NDA. I don’t think we will see it until it’s actually about to happen; I don’t think they want to give it to us a week beforehand, maybe for a day to review it and see how we want to go. It’s the same thing with the Budget – I don’t think they will give us time to learn rate, and have a week to mortgage our houses to buy more dinar before the RV! This is all being discussed in the committees, etc. 

This event was never intended for the general public; it just happened It was certainly not meant for eight million people! They won’t give us information to buy more because they believe we have too much already. It just happened. They want to create parity, and that is why they are offering the contract rate to those with the least dinar, so that there are more millionaires rather than billionaires. Otherwise, we are still waiting. I think we will get the NDA and the Budget maybe a day in advance. They have already rescheduled, and in Iraq the Budget vote will be televised. I don’t think they can use that as an excuse for much longer. The rate has been set, and the CBI can release it when they get word from the powers that be – meaning the US. The IMF, World Bank, etc., have all said “let’s go!” and someone in the US is wanting us to wait – I don’t know what for. 

The US banks were ready to go yesterday and they were told to wait. It is coming to a head, and if the vote is televised, then I cannot see waiting much longer because we are all ready to go. 

What’s our first question in the forum? 

Questions from the TNT forum 

Q: Does the 1 billion total US dollars per person now replace the 10 Zim note total limit?? 

A: They are different limits. We are being told that an individual cannot exchange more than ten x 100T Zim – that is specific to Zim – AND no person will receive more than one billion US dollars from all their currency exchanges combined. That one billion – any way you get to it – is what we HEAR people are limited to. I haven’t seen anything in writing about that. 

Q: Is there a time limit by which we have to exchange our currencies? 

A: The only limit I know about is the 000 dinar notes – that has a two-year lifespan. The others are asset-backed ‘forever’ currencies. 

Because the first group of currencies are supposed to all revalue simultaneously, is it possible that the delay to the Dinar revaluing is due to one or more of the other countries getting their act together like Iraq has? Might Tony’s friends at the Treasury have some indication about what the holdup is? 

A: No. Everything is set, so far as I know. The value of the other currencies is included in the resrve currencies, so they cannot go until dinar goes. It is the foundation of the GCR, and the other cannot go until Iraq goes. I asked what is holding up the UST, and it is the UST 

Q: What if you cannot get an estranged sibling to sign NDA. No longer have contact with them? 

A: there is an affidavit in the NDA where you can put the person’s name and say you have on contact with that person. Make sure you are speaking the truth as you know it when you sign that affidavit, which is a statement of truth.

 Q: So do I surmise correctly that a US citizen living in Canada (now a dual citizen) for past 5+ years cannot do exchange in the US – must use a Canadian bank in Canada? Any way around this??

 A: Do you have a problem exchanging in Canada? Do you have a residential address and/or bank account in the US? We really cannot address every single person’s individual circumstances. You are supposed to exchange where you have lived for the last 182 days. If you’ve lived in Canada for the last five years, youo will probably exchange in Canada, and probably get more than in the US. 

Q: Will ZIM exchange require an NDA if one does not exchange dinar for contract rates? 

A: No, not to our knowledge. 

Q: A fellow currency holder passed. His wife never got on the forum. The currency is now hers. She left Texas and stayed with both her kids until she just bought a home in Florida. She has not lived at the old or new address in the time period given. Can she use the new Florida address to RV?? 

A: She must have lived somewhere for the last twelve months! For these personal situations, call and ask the 800 number operator rather than going through people’s personal business here on the call. 

Q: What I understand from this is that a person is ONLY required to call the 800 number WITHIN THEIR REGION, IF one wants to get the contract rate.? 

A: Call the 800 number is you want the contract rate, if you have ten million or more (in US dollars) or if you want to exchange Zim. 

Q: Does the one billion dollar currency ceiling per individual apply to ALL currencies? And what happens to an individual’s extra currency exceeding the 1 billion dollar ceiling? Do other family members qualify as “individuals” who can exchange the extra currency exceeding the billion dollar ceiling? 

A: I brought this up, and gave the xample before: it doesn’t matter if one person exchanges ten billion, or ten people exchange a billion, that’s still a billion into the system. They will track that, and whomever you give it to, they will take it from them. That doesn’t make sense to me, but that is what they said yesterday when we were discussing it. I don’t even know if they can enforce that. Even though you have this currency, technically it belongs to the CBI and they can take it from you. There are laws on our books that say the government can came and take what you have, especially if there is a run on the banks. I have to look into this, because it sounds crazy to me. However, that is the response we got to that question. 

Q: Have you seen pictures of the lower denominations yet? 

A: I forgot about that. 

Q: Have you got any indication that the NDA “still” contains language that requires signers to be in compliance with all current and future USA laws, as it did a few years ago? 

A: Huh? I don’t know what that means. Homeland Security is doing the background checks, and I don’t know what they are looking for. I know they have a list of people who they will not allow to exchange. A few years ago, a lady went into the bank with two suitcases of currency, and they confiscated the currency and wanted her to prove that the money to buy the currency came from legitimate sources, because there were drug dealers in her family. 

Q: Any word on whether banks will offer SKRs for us to deposit currencies after RV that we were not permitted to exchange during our first exchange appointments, due to any limits on Zim? 

A: That is something to work out with your private banker. They said they are working on MultiCurrency Accounts (MCAs) for individuals as well as businesses. If you travel a lot and you want the bank to hold the currency so that they can exchange on a schedule, you can work that out with the bank. I know one person who had a schedule of 80 million every week for four weeks, and he went abroad. 

Q: Friday you mentioned bank exchange fees will be @ 3 to 5 points. Does that translate to full percentage i.e.: $30,000 per million $ exchanged (0.03 & 0.05)? Our sweet Call transcribers stated “.003 & .005” to be used for our calculations = $3,000 per million$. OR .0003 = $300 per mil? Please clarify. 

A: A point is 1/100 of one cent. So that would be 0.003, or three thousand per mil. WE have been told 3-5 points. If you have a million dollars and they charge a couple thousand as a fee, that’s fine. It’s better to negotiate your interest rates, because you’ll get those points back within a month! 

Q: If you chose to go to WF Bank and need to make an appointment to exchange, while waiting on your appointment and you decide you want to exchange a note while waiting, can you go to your bank you normally bank at and exchange or would I have to go to WF bank where I want to exchange my other currencies at? 

A: If you are exchanging less than a million dollars, you can go to any WF and do the exchange while you wait for your appointment. 

Q: I really am having trouble with the idea of getting other people to sign a NDA. How in the world. Can we control anyone but our own selves? 

A: Here is where the affidavit comes in, in case you have hostile family members. 

Tony: It’s about who you have already told about this, and who you plan to tell. If you haven’t told cousin Joe because you haven’t spoken for ten years, it’s not an issue. I haven’t seen the NDA yet. I know they made some updates and sent it to Washington. As soon as I do get it, I will look over it, and post it if we can. It would be better if they create a site and post it so you can look at it directly. 

Q: Past higher-ups who received the contract rate,.. did they sign an NDA? Was it the same wording that we have to Sign? When my Lawyer Reads the NDA and disagrees with some points, are they (PTB) willing to Exclude those POINTS??

 A: I assume they signed NDAs, I have no idea if they are the same, and no, you will not have the option of changing the NDA. 

Q: As the pastor of a church, I’ll personally exchange 100T Zim. Then a day or so later will I also be able to exchange 100T that was donated to our church into the church bank account? I’m thinking not, because my name is on church account. Please comment. 

A: Nothing beats a failure but a try. Is there anyone else on the church bank account that can exchange it for the church? Most churches and businesses have more than one person on the bank account. 

Q: Since taxes are being taken out before we receive any funds does that mean that short and long term capital gains are out, that all currency is being taxed the same regardless of when we purchased it? 

A: There is no tax, long or short-term. 

Q: Obviously, we will have greater bargaining power IF we pledge ALL of our currency with the 1st bank/exchange center, that’s going against the first principle of investing “don’t put all your eggs in one basket”. [It’s a exchange, not an investment.] I wanted to use three of the top banks along with other time-proven investment entities and inform each one that more of the “total pot” will be transferred each year to the one who is doing the best job in making AND not losing our money. [That is a post-exchange activity.] Once we exchange and they take their “pound of flesh”, is that the time to diversify? Or do we exchange in “pieces”? 

Tony: I would think it’s better to exchange in one place, and then move portions of your money to other banks. See which does the best and move the rest later. If you want to go to three banks to exchange, you can make a six-month agreement with each to see which serves you the best with their one-third of the funds… you can do that, but you won’t get the better deal than if you had 100 million in one bank. You won’t have the same bargaining power as with the full sum. 

Q: If I were to gift my Dinar post-RV, to a favorite Veteran’s charity, would the charity be able to get the Contract rates? (I have other currencies, but less than 1 Million dinar, so I think this is feasible.) As for them giving me a Receipt for a tax deduction, if they give me a receipt for X amount of dinar, at the prevailing Market or International rate that day, that would be good enough for me. I would obviously never know if they chose the Contract rate or not. 

A: If you are going to give major gifts, do it BEFORE the RV with gifting letters. Their ability to get the contract rate is then up to them. 

Q: Current rate for the dong? 

A: Either 47 cents or $1.47. One of those should be the opening rate, so I would plan on 47 cents. They are saying the rate will be $1.97 to $2.10, but if you plan on 47 cents and it comes out higher, then you’re even happier. 

Q: I am in Puerto Rico, which is District 2; will the bank assigned be on the island or the mainland?

 A: I was told that there is at least one back exchanging in Puerto Rico. 

Q: I have four children that I want to set up a trust for before we exchange. Can I set up a generic trust with the bank until I fully set up their trust accounts? [Yes.] Also will the bank allow us to exchange IQD, VND for myself & Husband along with ZIM into our account, then exchange a 100T ZIM note into each one of our four children’s trust accounts? 

A: Call the bank, and say, “This is what I want to achieve…” 

Q: I seem to remember that at one point it was mentioned that ANY Zim exchange would be accompanied by an NDA. Is my memory correct? Is this still part of the Zim exchange process? 

A: No. 

Q: Does the tax treaty apply to the contract rate, such that taxes are paid prior to our receipt of the exchange rate? 

A: Stop confusing income tax with excise tax. From our perspective, there is no tax. 

Q: Do we still need to sweep the exchange funds into a new account? Will the bank have time to open that new account at the appointment? 

A: You can do that after the exchange appointment, because they will not have time during your appointment. Tell them you want to change over your main account for security reasons, with no tellers allowed to see it in the computer; everyone who wants to deal with you have to go through the wealth manager. They will explain all that to you when you go in. 

Q: My neighbor cannot leave the house; can I exchange her currency and deposit it for her or do we have to go through legal channels (i.e., power of attorney)? 

A: You will need to set up a power of attorney. 

Questions from live callers 

951 caller: You mentioned ten x 100T Zim notes per person – can my wife and I each exchange ten 100 T notes? 

Tony: That is the suggestion of the committee; it is not written in stone. If you have separate accounts, you might be able to go up to the limit each. 

Caller: What if I then set up a separate entity? 

Tony: They are not going to let you do that. 

Caller: If you have over a billion in currency, the ideal is therefore to make those gifts now, so that you no longer reach that cap when you call the 800 numbers. 

Tony: That is not what they want you to do. That’s all I can say. 

Caller: The latest dong rate on the screen is more than a dollar? 

Tony: That’s what I was told. 

Caller: Should we still look like this weekend? Or next week? 

Tony: It was supposed to be yesterday and then tomorrow, and it didn’t happen. I would look for the next seven days, and I don’t mean seven days. I can’t really tell you all how to go around what ‘they’ want you to do, with the caps and such. They are telling us what they are trying to accomplish, so I am not going to tell you ‘do X, Y, and Z’ to get around it. I did that 6-7 years ago, and they changed to law to block those work-arounds. They listen to our calls, and will make sure we can’t do what we’re talking about.  

865/404: How closely are the Budget, Gazette, and banks being synchronized? 

Tony: That’s a very big question, and I would say “12-24 hours”. 

512 caller: What is the cap on the dinar rate for which we can get the contract rate?

 Tony: The cap is ten million DINAR, not the exchange in US dollars. Over ten million dollars you need to call the 800 number to get a wealth manager. If you don’t want the contract rate, walk up to the teller if you have less than one million dollars’ worth of dinar; between one and ten millions, go to the teller to make you an appointment with a wealth manager. You can go for the contract rate for ANY amount of dinar, so long as it is ten million dinar or less. Over ten million dinar, you will exchange the rest at the regular rate. To get the contract rate, you MUST go through the 800 number system.  
Judge's email/phone:  ksd_murguia_chambers@ksd.uscourts.gov  913-735-2340 DA's email/phone:  Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov   913-551-6730  For example, if you have four million dinar, that’s going to be about 16 million US dollars, so you would still go through the 800 numbers because it is over the ten million dollar limit, in any case. There is an overall cap of one billion US dollars in total, combined currencies. 

Caller: As for the NDA, what DC said is that they don’t want you to disclose the rate and the amount of your exchange. Is that still the case? 

Tony: That is my understanding, although I haven’t seen the new NDA yet. They were concerned that people will get different contract rates. We now know that the dinar contract rate is $28.50 for everyone, so that’s no longer an issue. 

Caller: What is this about a gift tax? 

Tony: The IRS allows you to give gifts up to $15,000 per year, per person. Over that 15K, you have have to pay a gift tax of 40%. SO GIVE YOU CURRENCIES NOW, while they are at a lower value; if you give away 100T after the RV – that is, after the value goes up to 10 million – you will pay 40% on that gift. 

347 caller: Caller: Are you still suggesting we go in with everything we’ve got, just in case? 

Tony: Let them know how much you’ve got, so they know where to send you; the banker will then negotiate when you can exchange the rest of your Zim, maybe one note per month or quarter. The current cap of 100T is per person or entity, with 10 x 100T total; overall (that is, all currencies) the maximum any one person or entity can receive is one billion dollars. I’m not sure I understand that, but it will no doubt become clearer. 

312 caller: [can’t hear this caller] Outside the USA? 

Tony: As soon as we get the NDA, I will figure out how to post it. US banks operating outside the country may be able to share contract rates.

 Caller: Will there be a separate number for those with less than ten million who want contract rates? Otherwise they will tie up the lines. 

Tony: It will be the same number. We will figure out what they are saying about one billion per person or entity. They are not wanting billionaires to be a common reality; that is not the purpose of this process. However, there are willing to make millionaires. 

916 caller: Can you exchange to the separate limits into three separate entities: yourself, a nonprofit, and a corporation? Could you put 100T in each of them? 

RayRen: I didn’t answer that question deliberately, because I think it is aimed at circumvention and I don’t want to address that, especially when they are listening. We seem to have caps in place now, so let’s leave it alone. You can ask the 800 number. 

Tony: It’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission. 
Judge's email/phone:  ksd_murguia_chambers@ksd.uscourts.gov  913-735-2340  DA's email/phone:  Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov   913-551-6730

Caller: We have a large family; those who don’t live with us, who have their own families, will all those cousins, etc., have to align with the NDA as well? 

Tony: Your parents, siblings, their spouses, your children and their spouses, and your first cousins – those you have told about this, and who could expose you. You should know who those people are. They have to sign the NDA as well. Have your attorney read the document, and ask who it applies to. 

Caller: $500,000 is the limit per transaction as a wire transfer? 

Tony: Yes, per wire transfer, in the first month.

 770 caller: [Appreciation] This NDA scares me because it sounds like a trap for the first mouse. What do you think, Tony? 

Tony: That’s a good question. You have to look at the NDA and see if you can abide by it. They are saying that I can share the document. They are saying that contract rates are available… but do you really want it on these terms? I know people who have already signed the NDA, and they are mainly government people used to being confidential. It might not be YOU so much as wondering if your brother-in-law can keep his mouth shut five years down the line. People will have to make those decisions for themselves, and that will scare off a lot of people. I will not make the decision until I read the NDA. 

MI caller: Have you heard any rates on the Zim? If I have less than a million dollars worth, I can go to the teller, right? Should I open an account beforehand? 

RayRen: We haven’t heard any more about the six zeros… but all Zim has to go through the 800 numbers, so you might as well exchange everything you have at that time. Tony: The only way you can exchange at the window is if you already have an account. Mostly they will tell you that the account has to be open 24 hours beforehand. We don’t really have an answer to those questions yet. 

Caller: Which are the lead banks? 

Tony: Wells Fargo and Bank of America, and also HSBC. 

786 caller: Will we still be able to draw Social Security? What about our retirement? 

Tony: You do need to be careful before you start handing out money to people, because they might lose their benefits. Look at these issues before you take this money or give it away. I don’t cover retirement law, but I don’t know of anyone losing their retirement because they got rich. For Social Security, you need to call them and ask. 

Next caller: I’m a little confused. The total amount of currency we can exchange is one billion US dollars’ worth – is that correct? 

Tony: That is what we have just been told. 

Caller: And the cap on dinar is 20,000? What about dong? 

Tony: No, the maximum dinar is ten million dinar to get contract rates. Above that, you will be exchanging at the official rate. For dong, you can exchange as much you have. That would be ten million DINAR @ $28.50 = 285 million. 

Next caller: We have heard that there will be a floating rate on Forex… [Yes.] We know this is a nontaxable event, but you have to make a statement to the IRS about your accounts. How do you let your CPA know where this comes from?

 Tony: Years ago, they said you can have your CPA sign the NDA also. Keep your receipts and exchange documents to prove that this is an exchange and nontaxable. 

RayRen: It’s not going on your 1040, so your CPA won’t have to explain it anyway. The IRS doesn’t need to know where the interest comes from, just that there is interest earned. Where it comes from is irrelevant for income tax purposes. Capital gains is a different issue, if you make investments. 

Closing Statement That’s two hours… I know some things are confusing, but it will become clear in time. We are learning more about the procedures, and you get to decide on whether you want contract rates based on what you make of the NDA and what you think your family will do. When we get more info, we will let you know. In a conversation a few weeks ago, they said that this is not to make everyone rich, but to spread the wealth. 

That’s why they are allotting more of the contract rates to those with fewer dinar. It is also easier to explain and fits better into the economy to have 1,000 more millionaires than billionaires. They are saying they want to cap this off at one billion dollars per individual, and we’ll just have to see how that shakes out. 

Don’t everyone call me about that because I cannot change it. If you only end up with 900 million dollars – what a glorious day! Everyone will get paid, and with more than we can use; everyone has the opportunity it expand what they will do. I will post the NDA when I figure out how to do that, or they will give me a link that I can send out. We are still being told it is this week regardless of what is happening in Iraq. Enjoy your day; we’ll get on the phone as fast as we can when it is warranted. 

RayRen: Don’t call Tony, and don’t call me! 

Keep believing… 

RayRen played I Believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA