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Thursday, December 28, 2017

TNT Dinar Call w/Rayran98

DA CHAT, 28 DEC

Tgirl Administrator   Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) News > Central: The current cash reserve of $ 48 billion

25/12/2017 Trend Press / Baghdad

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's cash reserves currently stand at 48 billion US dollars (57.5 trillion Iraqi dinars), the central bank governor said on Monday.

"The Central Bank of Iraq bought treasury bills worth 16 trillion dinars during 2015 and 2016, to provide liquidity to control the economic and financial performance in Iraq."

Read More LINK  http://aletejahtv.org/permalink/198057.html
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kaperoni Moderator   Keywords reveals the size of the central bank reserves of hard currency

Tuesday 26 December 2017 12:22

Alsumaria News / Baghdad   revealed the governor of the Central Bank of Iraq on the Keywords, Tuesday, that the bank reserves of hard currency of $ 48 billion, adding that Iraq would not resort to float the currency.

Keywords and said in a press statement to the newspaper "Arab - African", seen by Alsumaria News, said that " the central bank 's reserves of hard currency currently stands at $ 48 billion."

He added Keywords that "Iraq , which is one of the oil -producing countries depends on a fixed exchange rate, or fixed with flexibility, and do not resort to the flotation method, only if they adjust their reserves to a level without sufficiently, which did not happen either in Iraq or other oil -producing countries."

Keywords noted that "flotation is difficult to apply in Iraq, as the government has a monopoly, de facto, the dollar and foreign currencies."

The floating currency is to make the exchange of this currency as an editor in full, so that the government or the central bank does not interfere determined directly, but are automatically excreted in the currency market through the supply mechanism and demand that allow the identification of the national currency exchange rate against foreign currencies.

Floating currency exchange rates fluctuate constantly with every change witnessed in the supply and demand for foreign currency, so it can change several times per day.

LINK


ZenMav   OK... This is either the standard CB denials of pending changes in monetary policy or its an indication that the dinar will be maintained as a peg and increased as needed to start coaxing the chunky money into the banks

Kaperoni Moderator   As I stated in another post, ALOT has to happen before they can end the auctions.  I do not know if that is possible in 90-120 days.

Kw     ZenMav, I am thinking the same thing. The IMF told them to stay pegged, so I believe they will raise the value, and pull-in dinar. It will be a controlled procedure. But I could be wrong.
ZenMav     If you look at it dispassionately, from the standpoint that bankers never lose and that the banks always make money on the exchange, the IQD dropping in value may actually work.  Let it drop to 1500:1 or 2000:1 and watch a bunch of that "chunky" money leave the mattresses for dollars.  I think this puppy has to drop to get some people exchanging their dinar in freak out mode.

Its tough to armchair quarterback this thing any more.  As Mike pointed out, with 56 trillion in IQD in circulation, it will take time to bring in those notes.

Even with $120 million in USD being sold daily at an exchange of 1500:1, that is roughly 4.5 trillion IQD in a month.  Or, recall those days of 180 million USD being sold at the current rate and you get roughly 5.4 trillion in IQD exchanged for dollars.

Now, let's use 5.0 trillion in IQD to USD exchanged per month as an easy number to work with, and to get the money supply in Iraq under 10 trillion takes a long time.  And, that doesn't take into account what is introduced back into the system on payday by the Iraqi government.

So, like Kap said, we're into this thing for months.  Even 120 days seems conservative when using these numbers.  The recent article about a new economic reality AFTER the elections makes a lot more sense, no?

I suspect that more tyranny is coming to Iraq before prosperity arrives.  And, I hope I'm wrong.

--POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.” - Ambrose Bierce

Mike Moderator   Good post Zenmav, dispassionately spot on.--Stay grounded...

Phil Oberholzer   I'm leaning the same way with ZenMav and kw. I for one don't think the CBI or the government wants to have a new wave of millionaires that would be created by all the chunky money out there if the CBI were to add more than a couple of cents initially and then increasing as needed. A managed float makes alot more sense. But hey, it is Iraq...TY Tgirl and Kap and all the other posters.

Punisher              Nobody in Iraq becomes a millionaire. They gain purchasing power!

Phil Oberholzer   Punisher, if an Iraqian is holding on to a bunch of dinar (like we are) and it increases in value, yes I agree that they'll gain purchasing power. However, that increase in value makes them richer just the same. Only in our case we get to trade ours in on the US dollar.

ZenMav    There's a far bigger picture to this money game.  China, Germany & Japan are the largest exporting economies while the US & Europe are the 2 largest importing economies.  The entire planet is awash in those currencies and the debt that backs them up.  You think Iraq is the only country on a peg?

The Russians don't want to be left out, and what they actually bring to the party is real experience, resolve & sobriety in the matter of dealing with & fighting radical Islam (aka. Iran).

I used to say that the dinar was designed to be a dollar sponge, designed to soak up petrodollars that we never wanted to come home.  But, this thing has morphed into a Yen, Yuan, Euro and Dollar sponge.  And, the dinar will be given a reserve status to execute this plan of reducing global money supplies.

 It isn't just the Iraqis that need more purchasing power.  Real wages in the US haven't increased in 30 years, and whatever increases were coming in the last 8 years have been soaked up by rising health care costs.

If Abadi isn't re-elected as Prime Minister, then I suspect that a sufficient lack of political will will have been demonstrated by Iraq to justify the IMF pulling its support and letting the region plunge back into civil war.  All wars are bankers wars, no?  It'll be time to wipe the black board clean and create a new money game... a new dinar.

Crazy to think that we may have bought the wrong one, eh?

POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.” - Ambrose Bierce

Punisher   Phil Oberholzer, Sure I agree. Their lives will be much better. But they donÂ?t get the benefit of the exchange rate unless they came to the U.S. (something I doubt any Iraqi would want to do). But none the less they will be able to buy more with their dinar.

Aloha Alex          When someone mentins 56 trillion IQD in circulation, is it not important to state how much of that is inside Iraq? Many trillions, I am sure, are outside. Is the GOI responsible for exchanging those?
Shengwah          Hmm. I said in 2016 it'd be at least 2018. (I was beaten with pom-poms) I don't see 2018 now. 2020, anyone?

Mike Moderator   AA, I don't think it matters, right?  But, let's say there's 25% of the M0 money supply outside the country, that's a huge bloated number nowhere near what I believe is outside but let's say 75% of the dinar is still inside Iraq.

That leaves $42 trillion and at .20 cents per dinar you're looking at $8.4 trillion, at .10 cents it's roughly $4.2 trillion, still an astronomical number for Iraq to cover with $40 something billion in reserves. Then, they still have the rest that's outside the country they're still on the hook for.

Fiat currency is based on the value established by supply and demand, right now there's way too much of it and next to zero demand outside of Iraq. These guys have a long way to go still.   --Stay grounded...

 

We have more passion for Iraq future than the GOI members

TNT UPDATE, 28 DEC

TNT:

Scoutdad:  Bank Experience at Wells Fargo Arizona. Asked head teller about foriegn currency then specifically Dinar. He said (and I quote), "oh ya, we are just waiting for it to revalue. We have a lot of customers waiting." I asked if he had Dinar and he said he did.

I asked if he could see the new rates on the back screens and he said he could. I asked again! So you are just waiting for approval to bring rates forward? He said, yes. Dong is the only one they are activly selling.

Dong Sell rate: .00005 and Dong buy rate: .0000399. They are acknowledging it now when they have said it is a scam in the past at the same bank!!!

UKfan1979:   Thanks scoutdad. I had a similar convo with my WF contact on yesterday.

KTFA UPDATE, 28 DEC

KTFA:

Gfulcher66:  Since the CBI is closed until Jan 2nd which is most likely done with intent IMO we will be waiting until then for their real rate to be seen by us, so IMO no rv until the 2nd of Jan...All other things can be made retroactive as the prettiest girl at the prom never has to follow the rules exactly - that said I hope im wrong and we see the rate this year, if not sure seems likely it will be first week of 2018…. the gold backed basil111 platform is interesting to see progress

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JesusLovesBaseball:  Distribution of more than 126 thousand electronic voter cards in Diwaniyah

Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 01:39 PM

Kazem El Adly

The Director of Information Office of the Electoral Commission in the province of Diwaniyah Kazem al-Adli on Thursday the distribution of more than 126 thousand electronic voter cards, equivalent to more than 27% in the whole province.

Al-Adli told al-Marbad radio that the Office of the Commission in Diwaniyah received from the Independent High Electoral Commission 459 thousand cards, noting that 41 centers throughout the province receives citizens wishing to update their electoral records.    LINK

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JesusLovesBaseball:  3 arrest warrants issued against three Ministry of Oil officials

2 hours ago

The Integrity Commission on Thursday revealed the results of its investigation into the Yonah Oil investigation and investigation of information published in the Fairfax Media and the Huffington Post, and three arrest warrants were issued.

"In accordance with the principle of transparency, in order to inform the public about the latest investigative procedures of the Integrity Commission in the so-called Yona Oil case, the Board publishes what is legally available for its investigations into the case; Confusion and fog that some are trying to give details. "

The statement added that "the high-level investigative team, which was previously composed by the membership of the Deputy Chairman of the Board and Inspector General of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Inspector General of the Ministry of Oil and Director General of the Legal Department of the Office of Federal Financial Supervision and Directors General of the Investigations and Legal Services in the Integrity Commission; Published by Fairfax Media and Huffington Post, is still completing its investigations under the supervision of the competent investigating judge after the Commission completed its investigative procedures and referred the case to the Members ".

The statement added that "in the past period of the work of the team to record the statements of those involved in the case and the process of investigation and inspection of the site of (Yona Oil) and (Leighton of Shore) in Baghdad, and found him the lack of headquarters of the two companies in Baghdad, As well as contact with all international and local companies mentioned in the press reports published by the two agencies. The team coordinated with the Preventive Department in the Integrity Commission to implement the judicial decisions calling for the verification of financial accounts and verification of funds Yin and all of those named in the case, and take all legal proceedings against all those who have proved his responsibility. "

"Coordination is still under way by the team members under the supervision of the competent investigating magistrate with the United Kingdom, Australia and the United States of America, in order to provide the investigative team with the relevant information available to those countries. To communicate with the Iraqi embassies in those countries directly; to clarify their final position on the issue. "
"The investigative team, in the second step of its work, recorded the statements of a number of stakeholders and witnesses, as well as other company owners and officials, including the former deputy prime minister, former oil minister, former director of the South Oil Company, And the Director of the Office of Security Permits at the Ministry of Oil and several others named in the investigation or summoned; to testify in the case, and after completing the investigative procedures the investigation team referred the case to the After the coordination and direct action between the team and the competent investigating judge, the latter issued on 11/12/2017 a warrant for the arrest and search of the escaped fugitive (Uday Nader Abdulkarim al-Quraishi), director of the project of export energy escalation - / Penalties; responsible for the conclusion and execution of the contract

The statement pointed out that "the issuance of a warrant for the arrest and search for the other defendants, namely (Basil Jaraj) director of the branch (Yuna Oil) in Iraq, in addition to the director of the former engineering body in the Southern Oil Company in accordance with the provisions of the same article, and approached the concerned authorities, Basra and Kirkuk; to carry out the arrest warrant against these accused and bring them hidden in the event of arrest, and has been approached the recovery department in the Integrity Authority to open a file to recover them.

The Panel noted in its statement that "the Panel's investigations proved that the case had begun since 2012, as there was information at the time that there were allegations of corruption on the contract to escalate export capacity between the South Oil Company at the time and the company (Leighton of Shore); The Deputy Prime Minister for Energy addressed a letter to the Inspector General of the Ministry at the time requesting that the allegations be investigated and investigated with the Ministry's knowledge. A team of the Inspector-General of the Ministry of Oil, the Director of the Contracts and Tenders Department, a In addition to the Director of the Southern Oil branch managers and inspection departments, contracts and finance in the province of Basra. "

"The investigation then concluded coordination with the Australian Federal Police on the matter and reconsidered the future dealings with both Yona Oil and Leighton of Shore until the issue was resolved and continued to follow up with the South Oil Company, (Yuna Oil), and was registered as a criminal case at the time of the Commission in the number (841 S 3/2013), and the results of the investigations were then presented to the Court of Inquiry on the issues of integrity in the province of Basra, which decided on 6/8/2013 to reject the complaint and close the investigation final; the information".

"The Commission, in keeping with public opinion on the latest findings of its high-level investigative panel to investigate the case under the supervision of the competent investigating judge, confirms that international investigations are continuing after investigations of the case have been completed at the local level.

 There is still time for coordination with other States, as the Commission has not received the required response; it has called for the use of international experts; in order to remove some of the obstacles it faces, particularly in issues of international dimension, including the issue The panel did not receive any new information from international experts on the issue.    LINK

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JesusLovesBAseball:  Three wanted for criminal and terrorist cases in Diyala arrested

2 hours ago

On Thursday, police arrested three wanted men to crack down on security operations in three cities in Diyala.

"Patrols and detachments from the Habhab police station and the fight against pure crime and the third Diyala emergency group arrested three wanted persons in criminal and terrorist cases as part of the security practices carried out in the areas of Baquba, Khalis and Hebbeh," the police command said in a statement.

He added that "legal proceedings have been taken against those wanted to bring them to justice."   LINK

RV/INTELLIGENCE ALERT - December 28, 2017

Sources have been informed by the Alliance that no public mass indictment event will occur. It will be done quietly behind the scenes.

The Alliance is playing a game of attrition with the cabal through military deception. Exposing them one by one until no one is left.

"He who is patient achieves victory."

The sinking of the Titanic is a perfect example of the cabal's current situation.

Most cabal have jumped shipped out of desperation and are now aiding the Alliance. They don't want to go down with a sinking ship.

The RV will just suddenly pop without warning once all cabal have been arrested and/or neutralized.

Keep an eye out on news from insiders.

You'll be able to discern the timing of the RV.

Operation Disclosure

Dinar Updates w/BGG & Co w/Callers

Steffen Rowe/Tank "Stand with us" - GCR/RV SPEAK Intel Update, 28 DEC

SPEAK INTEL
1:40 PM EST 12/27/2017

STAND WITH US

• There are no more issues to negotiate

• The Cabal has no control or leverage

• The entire banking system has been converted

• Every country in the world has been notified that the only currency that will be utilized by US is the Gold Backed USN 

• Again today a time has been set for exchanges to begin for the regular people

• The human employees inside of the Cabal machine are beginning to wake up and realize they're supporting their own enslavement

• 267,933 people have died from starvation since I first posted the article "The Deadliest Weapon Ever Created" referring to the nonperformance of the powers that be

• There has not been a single threat that has been guarded against during this entire process that could or would have killed as many people

• The biggest fear has always been the liability and law suits that would result after this event took place. The damages could be devastating to everyone at every level which is why they took such great precautions to protect THEMSELVES

• The issue I have is that the leaders SHOULD be thinking about how to protect THE PEOPLE

• So, we have begun to gather the plaintiff information to file suit on this side of the RV with the expectation that the UST will finally execute and include us instead of allowing us to file

TO THE ALLIANCE

• The world remains at war in our consciousness because of the looming fear that there are no good guys. Alliance members, please ruminate on that thought. 

Your lies, not the CABAL, have done the most damage to the people. We expect evil beings to do evil things that don't consider human suffering. But we have all looked to you to be better. We've looked to you to execute the mission with integrity and honor. We expect you to value the human experience. It is this unique individuality, the creative imagination, and the complex emotional capacity to empathize with someone completely different than ourselves, that makes it so profound to be human. We're counting on you to reconnect to that energy.

You're constantly saying you'll do something then hardly acknowledging it when you don't, leaving Dinarland story tellers to fabricate some excuse for you. We're on the same team. To be a member of this team, you have to believe in team work. You have to stand for something. It's not just about winning. It's about winning the right way. Stand up for us. Stand with us. Just take a stand today and stop allowing fear to dominate your decisions. It may have kept you alive, but it's a terrible way to live. 

I will file suit against the US Treasury and US Government if need be. I will have more than enough evidence to win and get everyone paid. But no one wants that to happen in that way. But I am still connected to the people and you've forgotten what that's like. I know the pain of constant promises without performance. Someone has to do what they say they'll do, or it will crush the innocence and beauty of the human spirit. I want that to be you, but because you haven't done it you're forcing it to be me.

I will follow through on everything I said unless you release us to conduct our exchanges today. You have already set a time to go so I'm in alignment with your stated purpose. The enslaved masses are terrified that they've waited all this time for their freedom and somehow by someone speaking up to declare that our freedom is not yours to give or to hold back that it will be kept from them even longer. I know better. I know who I am and what is rightfully mine. And so do you. 

I am not throwing a temper tantrum, or being impatient. I'm not trying to impose my will to force something to happen. I don't have delusions of grandeur or an ego the size of Texas. I'm demonstrating a loving kindness for all of humanity that is woefully lacking in your actions. I have committed myself every second of everyday to the liberation of human kind. This is a love story that happens to include a revolution. So I will do what I said I'd do because I love being human, and I see all the beauty and infinite possibilities of our freedom. I am doing this for Team Humanity and trying to remind the Alliance that they are part of that team. 

We've already taken a stand. I'm asking you to stand with us. 

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TNT CC NOTES, 28 DEC

TNT Call 27-December-2017 Replay: 641.715.0623, PIN CODE 409029# AUDIO REPLAY LINK 


[Music: It’s done, it’s finished, the RV’s on it’s way; everything’s completed, there’s nothing else to say. It’s done, it’s finished, the RV’s on its way; we’re just awaiting for the call any day.] 


RayRen: Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! It’s Wednesday, December 27 2017, with yours truly RayRat98 here. We won’t be with you long, because there isn’t a lot of new intel. 


Yesterday we did have lot of information. Banks are stepping up security today, but it’s a challenge to know what is going on apart from being ready. It’s the 27th,and the bank people are prepared to be on standby. 


After yesterday’s call, I wanted us to have more indication of the rate change for the dong. I still didn’t get confirmation on that. For a long time we were getting rates of 47 cents, and yesterday a new rate came in but not from all the sources I would have liked. However, there is a possibility that it will be more than 47 cents. 


I hope to have more on that this evening or overnight. Another IQD rate is believed to be a ‘target rate’ for a possible cap, to keep the market from just running wild. I firmly believe we won’t even see it before January 2-3 (that targeted rate) to keep things from going wild. It’s quite possible that we will see a rate of $3+ because that IS the rate, even if the banks aren’t acting on it yet. 


So far as I understand, everything is in place for the banks to move forward, but they haven’t yet. Everything will happen at its proper time and place, so just be patient. We understand from Iraqi television that the Kurdistan crisis is about to come to an end… which means it’s probably already resolved. They will continue to talk to each other; I don’t personally feel it’s affecting what we are waiting for. 


Our people in Iraq are saying the cards are activating, it’s a done deal, and there is no turning back. I think we are sitting well between now and next Monday. The banks say they have the authorizations and assurances – what else do they need? I don’t know, but I’ll just give them room, sit back and wait. I’ll also make sure some other things are in place for this celebrated day that is upon us. 


Questions from the forum 


Q1) Regarding the Zim, you’ve mentioned there are several scenarios around what will happen, and it’ll be futile and confusing to share due to variations you hear. Many are diversified into other currencies and will be okay with just about any payout structure. Can you please share bullet points about the payout/structured plans that seem to be the most popular with your info providers so we can prepare a few exercise scenarios ahead of time? 


A: I would be glad to do that but we are awaiting a bit more information before doing that. It could be a number of things, and I don’t want to go through multiple variations. I would rather find out what they intend and then we’ll got through a strategy for that. 


Q2) Regarding VND – you’ve shared .47 as the most common rate you’ve heard. Does this stand as highest rate we will likely see? Do you feel, or possibly know, if it will float to the sometimes talked about low $2, or higher, it was long ago? 


[RR: I feel it could go that high.] 


Are you aware if a contract rate is available on the VND that was talked about several years ago ($5 to $6)? 


[RR: To the best of my knowledge, there WILL be a contract rate on the dong.] 


Q3) Regarding making appointments – Some folks have a few notes, some have a suitcase full. Is there a qualifying question the call center will ask to direct various level currency holders to specific locations being cause for possible higher secure locations for customers with “suitcases”? Also, have you heard if Zim holders will be directed to a specific location even if they hold other currencies? If so, will they have to make another appointment to exchange the other currencies they may hold or do all there at the Zim appointment? 


A: In the past, we did hear something like that, but right now we just don’t know. When I get firm information, I will let you know. 


Q4) When “they” told you we would get after the #wearethepeople campaign, were you addressing what percentage of the contract rate (they got and dictate what) we’d get or were you talking about the percentage of dinar holders that would get the contract rate? 


A: That would be the percentage of currency holders, so move fast. 


Q: Do you know if this exchange will be for all who live in the USA and have long standing bank accounts with Bank of America, but who don’t have legal residency or status in the US but their children were born here? Would the legal child have to exchange for the parents? Asking for some church members. 


A: If you’re already in the US, with bank accounts, and doing business, it should apply to you. I haven’t heard anything saying the exchange is for US citizens only. It’s just currency; if the bank is already doing business with you, this won’t be different. 


Q: Can you expand on the comment you made yesterday in chat (especially address the VND rate if you can): “Notice! – banks are putting security in place for tomorrow…. time will tell! looks like dong might have a higher rate than shared all of this time…. checking other sources to make sure it’s good.” Also, do you have an update on what the 2018 tax changes will be pertaining to our exchange? Has Tony found out if this info can be shared yet? 


A: Nothing new. 


Q: where do we find high interest compounding with out locking up principal like just savings are there any over 1.5? 


A: With any investment, you are locking up the principal for some time. You’ll find plenty of post-RV opportunities at more than 1.5%. 


Q1: What do your sources expect as contract rates for dinar and dong? 


A: High. 


Q2: Premium rates? 


A: I think that is the market rate. 


Q3: Do you expect dong and Zim rates to rise in the market? 


A: Not at this time. 


Q4: Caps on the dinar? 


A: No, I don’t believe there will be caps. 


Q5: Anything new on how the Zim will be exchanged? 


A: No. 


Q: I remember you told us years ago that there’s a rule that after an RV the country has 7 to 10 days before they let the world know…is this the period we are now in?? My son Shane bought dinar on ebay when he was 15 in high school…now he’s almost 28!! He told me someday we will be rich!!! And we are finally there


A: Yes, I do believe we are. 


Q: I was wondering, if the banks had the “go ahead” 10 days ago, why are we not able to go yet?? 


A: Because they want to be sure. 


Q: Yesterday Tony mentioned we (the people outside Iraq) have been propping up the Dinar for more than a decade. That we have been fed news that caused us to want to go out and buy more currency as RV is coming and going to happen any minute, day or week. What makes the latest news different? I just hope TNT is not being fed more news to cause us to go out and buy more Dinar. 


Personally, I am surprised that all trading was not halted as soon as it became clear that the RV had taken place in country. What percentage of listeners do you think may have gone out, or still going out to buy an extra $20 to $100 more of Dinar or Dong? 


A: What makes the latest news different?! Were you not paying attention yesterday? Iraqis are using their cards in and outside the country at the same new rate. That’s different! 


Q: Ray, what do you think the rate is going to be on the ZIM? 


A: No idea. 


Q: Tony indicated that he could explain how we would go about securing the contract rates, is there any chance now that you could elaborate on what we will need to know to tell the banker? Or is this information we should keep within the TNT family only, since as I understand it contract rates are only available for a short period of time? 


A: We’ll come back to that. 


Q: I plan to seek the contract rate for the IQD and any other currencies so will be planning to rush to the bank as soon as possible. However, I have checked banks in my state (Minnesota) and have not found any that deal with the IQD. I am concerned about possible delays in accessing the list of banks and getting to the right bank. Can you tell us in which city or cities in Minnesota the bank(s) are located that will deal with the IQD? 


A: At the right time, we will tell you all of that, and then some. 


Q: for the Iraqi citizens, a dinar is a dinar in the country. Do the rates you are mentioning have to do with if they were going to exchange outside the country only? I can see the cost of goods changing within the country but is there something that I am missing in my understanding? 


A: The Iraqi citizens have no reason to exchange anything; it’s the currency they use. When they purchase something outside the country, they can use their cards. 


Q: Have you had any of your Iraq contacts say their card does not have a $3 plus dollar rate? 


A: Not any of mine. 


Q: What is the status of capital gain in the new tax law? One version of it changed it from one year to three years for long term gains. 


A: I don’t know – check it out and let us know! 


Questions from live callers 


865/404: Is there a cap on the contract rate? 


RayRen: No. 


Caller: When you talked about call centers, Tony specifically said that Wells Fargo is taking the lead, taking over from Bank of America in the past. Does that mean that exchange centers will focus on WF as well? 


RayRen: I don’t know that the other banks will not have call centers; it is a WF call center that we get our information from. 


610 caller: [Appreciation] 


423 caller: When Tony said that there are lower denominations in the ATMs and people are reporting the new rates on their cards, he then said ‘hopefully we will see it on 2. January, or by the 12th at the latest”, does that mean the cards being loaded? How does that affect us? 


RayRen: If Iraq wants all its citizens to be happy first, then they have to do their cards first, and then we will come in behind that. These are clear indicators that it is done, and we’re just waiting for it to reach our level. It’s in process already. 


Caller: If the banks decide to do it this year, they have a rate on the screen but it’s not necessarily live, is that it? 


RayRen: I am told they have everything they need; apparently something is preventing them from moving forward right this minute, but I don’t know what it is. I very much believe in the $3.37 rate or whatever is on the cards – it’s coming from all directions. We thought that some banks would spring into action yesterday or today, and they might, before end of business. One day soon, you will go to dealer sites (or forex sites) and see different rates. If you are thinking of buying more, I wouldn’t waste any time – go do it, because the prices will change! There may still be some things that need to be done before the prices in Iraq change, but the cards themselves have a different rate. 


If I have more money, it doesn’t matter if the prices change, but if the prices drop, then I’m in an even better situation. I may not have all those tiny details; when four, five, six sources all say something, I accept it is going on! 


347 caller: It seems like everything is set up, in place, yet we are not exchanging…? 


RayRen: Why are we trying to make sense of something we cannot control? Either it is, or it isn’t. If it is, I’m positioning myself to make the most of this deal. If it isn’t, then I’m ready to move on. There’s only so much information we will get, although there is some we are receiving and cannot pass on to you. 


What we can give you is our conviction that this is happening, to give you peace of mind, and also other financial things that you can use to position yourself and take advantage of. If that helps, great, but otherwise, all you have is the information to make your choices. I f you come up against a brick wall, you can stare at the wall, bang your head against it, or turn in a different direction. 


There have been so many opportunities out there, and now some of the members have been able to pick up while we are waiting. Others have put themselves in positions of being tax-exempt (whether this is taxable or not). That’s what we want people to learn ahead of time, so that when this happens, they are ready. I can’t do anything about the RV or the rate; what I can decide is what moves I can make. 


Focus on what you can do something about, rather than what we can do nothing about. I don’t fully understand why they are doing this or that, and chasing down the information won’t affect my back pocket; learning other things will help me protect my exchange from taxation (for example), and that’s helpful. I am keeping my eye on the big picture, and see how I can benefit WHEN it happens rather than WHY it happens. That ‘when’ could be tomorrow or next week… 


501 caller: You said the banks will require two forms of ID? If I have a passport and a driver’s license, but my wife only has a driver’s license, will they accept another picture ID? 


RayRen: Yes. 


786 caller: [can’t understand this caller] 


RayRen: Do you receive the text messages we send out? Yes? You are connected. 


386 caller: Has there been anything definitive on the 80/20 split on the Zim? 


RayRen: No. The bright side is that they intend to do something with it! And if you hold enough Zim, that will be a nice payout, either way. One 100 trillion note will be a nice payout, any way you look at it. I’m just thrilled that they are doing something with it, when they were saying in 2009 that it was obsolete. So we all bought Zim as collector’s items, so the fact they are doing something with it is exciting. We are hearing this and that, but we don’t know what is real until it takes place. We are waiting to find out the intention as it stands today, and when we find out, we’ll tell you. Right now, it’s supposedly in this first basket, when it goes before 2. January. 


321 caller: I was in WF talking about personal finances; I asked my banker about all this, and he said he has no information as of yesterday. I purchased some dong at a different bank yesterday, at $46 per million. 


419 caller: Three months ago I went to a bank that is buying and selling; this week it seems they are not dealing with the dinar. I asked what changed, and the fellow said that they changed their mind because of ISIL. Is this the reason now, or are the banks going ahead? 


RayRen: I don’t know. It’s my understanding that they have the assurances and the authorizations to go forward; what else they may need, I don’t know. Right now, I’m looking for it from today to the 2nd. If it hasn’t popped by then, I’ll be asking what’s going on. 


Closing Statement We were here a little longer than I thought we would be. We’re halfway through the week, and there is a lot of anticipation that something will pop before 2. January. 


Some banks were getting security ready, and some told their staff before the break that they might be in standby mode late this evening or early tomorrow. If that did carry through, they are getting ready for the minute this pops out. There is excitement going into Friday and the weekend. Hopefully more information will come in during the next couple of days and I will pass them on. 


If I see any strategy moves, and hope you will receive them without five thousand questions. It’s better to BE ready, whenever this comes out. The best thing I can do is to prepare you, so that when this happens, you will already be ready. Let’s see what happens as the days progress. Hang in there it won’t be like this for long… 


RayRen played I Believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA

Steffen Rowe/Tank "Expected this Morning" - GCR/RV SPEAK Intel Update 12/28/17

SPEAK INTEL
7:05 AM EST 12/28/2017


• Excellent reports from the Middle East of accounts finally going liquid

• Notices to the people expected this morning for the US and the entire world

• Reports from the Philippines that numbers will be released on their Friday

• 10 AM EST TODAY-Mass meditation and prayer for the miracle of this event to manifest

• Trailers in between shows on Bloomberg discussing Zimbabwe currency values and international exchange rates 

• Yesterday Bank of America reported rates on the Iraqi Dinar of $.0048. That's a 400% increase in value. They said to wait to exchange because the sanctions had been removed yesterday. The new rate would be $4.80

• We have emails from the same bank telling people that the Dinar was a scam

• WE do not want to file a law suit. WE are asking the UST to release our notice so we don't have to do that. Until they do, our movement is only getting stronger. Our reach is getting bigger. And our impact is only getting more powerful. 

SEEK JUSTICE BELOW
https://projectspeak.net/lets-keep-the-twitter-campaign-going-gunner

TANK
FOLLOW @kre8change

PS Cinemo Galactic is the coolest secret name of all time.

ENORRSTE TIDBIT, 28 DEC

 Article:  "Central Bank: float the dinar is difficult to apply in Iraq" 


 Alaq is giving a progress report on the plans to open the currency to a float.  They have taken "a package of measures" to bring them to the point where a float will work. ...Then he goes on to state that they are making efforts to achieve "financial inclusion" which I take to mean international acceptance of the dinar, now that the security and financial stability have been dealt with.  


Finally, he concludes by stating that paying federal employees through bank deposits is working to get people to use the banks.


 The reason for the delay, in my view, is this last item. 


 Unless and until the CBI can get the dinars out from the mattresses they are cautious to begin the float. 


 In short, there are just too many dinars in circulation.  However, as they get people to move to banking they can remove the large notes from circulation and begin the float.  Therefore, I see this article as positive. 


 It is a report card only but points to a goal (the float) that is imminent.  I get to this conclusion because...it specifically is mentioned that Egypt moved to a float, but "too late."  


This would imply to me that the CBI is not going to be "too late" in moving forward, unlike Egypt.  

ADMINBILL TWEET, 28 DEC

WH Clark‏ @wsomn0629 5h hours ago 

#WSOMN0629 Another splendid day in Currencyville & Dinarland as the process nears an end. I look for after January 2018 begins but you never know. Have a great day everyone. Enjoy your work day and be kind to everyone.

OkieOilman Update from Elmer , 28 DEC

Elmerl123456: Twitter users: Listen folks please. I’m referring to OkieOOM, aren’t you tired of being an imposter yet? Folks I’ve told you 1000’s of Times Okie doesn’t post. Block OkieOOM (ELMERL123456 is my real twitter) not ELMERF123456. Block OkieOOM and ELMERF123456 and avoid lies and confusion PLEASE!! 
Janitor: Elmer, is Okie doing good? 

Elmerl123456: Okie is not only a good man, he’s my friend. Don’t these wanna be imposters know that at any moment I can get the real Okie on the phone and confront these buffoons. I wish there was a way to conference the world with these idiots and let all hear who claims to be real and who is. Stand up TNT and block that imposter and save your emotions. BTW Okie is good. 

Elmerl123456: You all know me and what I stand for. I can’t stand 15 minutes of famers. I will tell you Okie and I converse. He does not chat, Skype, tweet or any social media any longer! If the real Okie has something to tell me to tell you will be the first to know but it won’t be from any social media it’ll be here.

WSOMN CHAT, 28 DEC



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Is today the day bill?



NOT YET JB BUT IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOON. MY PERSONAL WINDOW IS ANYTIME FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY. IT MAY BE DONE IN PHASES TO, AS TONY SAYS, "CATCH THE 1ST MOUSE" BY SOME BANKS.

MY EMPHASIS IS ON SOON. KNOCK ON WOOD



Admin- thanks forupdate hump day is my favorite .... If you reinstate the bann members that were negative and this doesn't go with in the next week it may cause chaos in this room IMO



MORNING STAG1 - THEY WILL BE QUICKLY DEALT WITH UNLESS THEY ARE REASONABLE



Just trying to watch out for you. Heard you are a great guy



THANKS STAG1 - THIS SITE IS FILLED WITH GREAT GUYS AND GALS.



FOR MEMBERS THAT ARE IN MULTIPLE ROOMS FEEL FREE TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. IT IS THEIR CHOICE.



REMEMBER THE MAJORITY OF DELETED ACCOUNTS WERE BECAUSE THE MEMBER NEVER SIGNED IN AND PARTICIPATED.



RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO MODERATORS ALTHOUGH SUNNI, SUNNYSPLACE AND RICOSHEA WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED AS MODERATORS.



Praying this is finally it, so many have been lost on this journey. Thanks Bill

Please note I do not post anything from this room in any other room



SANDNSEA AND GROUP - YOU MAY POST ELSE WHERE UNLESS POSTER REQUESTS YOU DO NOT. WE ARE TO CLOSE TO HOLD BACK NOW.



Admin god I hope so. As you I am tired.



WENEEDIT - TIME FOR OUR SECOND WIND TO BEGIN THROUGH JANUARY AND THEN, HOPEFULLY, WE WILL BE WONDERING WHAT HIT US.



GM, AdminBill…thanks for all you do and for the news today!!



DPCHAMP - I REALLY HAVEN'T GIVEN NEWS BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE CAN'T BE CONFIRMED AS YET. I WOULD ADVISE YOU ALL TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE NEWS AND SIMPLY BE ON A HIGHER ALERT THAN WE NORMALLY ARE. AGAIN, I AM LOOKING AT A WINDOW THAT GOES THROUGH JANUARY BUT MAY BE IN OUR FACE WITH THE BLINK OF AN EYE. BE OPTIMISTIC AND ENCOURAGED BUT GUARDED. YOUR FAITH BELONGS TO THE LORD. NOT BANKERS.



Good morning everyone, today is a most excellent day in paradise. I am also very happy that I now work From home, so I can watch this unfold in real time LOL. Thank you again AB for this room. A side note: this is my 1st ever chat room that I belonged to and to have it filled with so many awesome folks, I can't think Of a better chat room to get started in.



GKEL, so true. Really a sweet group.



BB5 - OHHH...WE HAVE HAD OUR MOMENTS



Snake do you personally think there are legs to the rumors out there?



I do Weneedit spoke to a banker up in Austin yesterday who although couched in his responses to my questions did tell me to be sure and stop by his bank early into January as he did wish to explore some new concepts in banking they are developing
I personally do not deal with his bank but several clients use his trust department which is how I know him






REINSTATING MEMBERS AND ANSWERING EMAIL. TAKES TIME.



Anybody hear from iko



IKO IS WELL



SUNNYSPLACE, SUNNI, RICOSHEA CAN ALL CAP UP IF DESIRED

HOWEVER. I EXPECT THIS TO BE A SELF REGULATING ROOM AS IT HAS BEEN FOR THE PAST 6 OR SO MONTHS. I WILL REACH OUT TO IKO.



HI ADMIN, ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU....THANKS FOR BRINGING IN MANY OF OUR WSOMN FAMILY...



GOOD TO SEEM THEM COMING BACK



Admin ~ thank you for the email! Pffeww .. soo glad I'm still part of the family! . . :



I HAVE FOUND THAT THE EMAIL CAPABILITIES DIRECTLY FROM THIS SITE ARE SUPERB. SO, IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER MEANS OF COMMUNICATION YOU MAY RECEIVE DIRECT EMAILS FROM THE SITE.



I received an email saying I was banned now I am reinstated, the only problem is that I’ve been on here every day and it doesn’t seem like I’ve been banned. Is this a false email?



COPPERWIRE. SAME EMAIL WENT OUT TO EVERYONE. CURRENT, BANNED OR DELETED



OFF TO WORK. BACK THIS EVENING TO FINISH RESTORATION. ONLY ONE RUDE COMMENT SO FAR AND OF COURSE HE DID NOT WANT BACK IN.



AJM wrote 
moments ago
Well I went to TD Bank to try my luck. No exchange of Iraqi Dinar. I also took 200,000 Dong just in case but that's only worth $7.96. So nothing yet.