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Sunday, October 8, 2017

WSOMN CHAT, 8 OCT

TED1016:
Most Gracious and Heavenly Father, again we come to You this early morning of this weekend and many pf us fear this will prove to be empty of a good reason as to why our blessings have not arrive as once was expected. However, we know this is merely a delay in the process because in our hearts we know that as odd as it may seem to, some, there are members amongst us who will be part of redeeming our country.


Dear Lord God Almighty, helps us make it through this weekend and beyond if need be. We are witnessing the long period of false and misleading information that has been spoken on for years. Still despite all of the warnings we still find some among us who are beginning to shows signs of doubt and depression because of a new delay with every day. Walk with us Lord. Amen and Amen.


My fellow travelers down this long road, know that there are many of your fellow members are praying for you every day. And we must remember the Lords promise where one or more are gathered together in prayer, there also I will be. If the Lord stands with us, then who will stand against us? Keep the faith, Sleep well this morning and if need be keep praying through the weekend. “Our Destiny Awaits”


I personally try to listen to as many calls that I can and treat them with respect no matter how much I may disagree with everything they say because until the event tactfully occurs, we don't really know who is right and who is wrong. But that's just me..



You know every morning after my 3:00 AM posting I sit down beside my bed and read off personal prayer request for ever individual listed on my prayer list as the list has grown over time I sleep later and later into the day  That's OK it is the least iI can do and I consider it a labor of love for all.



I have decided to take on a part time job with a local Walmart starting on Wednesday so I am not sure how that is going to affect my Early morning Post. It's only $9.00 an hour but it will get me out of the house and my mind on other things while we wait.



I'm telling you this room could do a call



Didn't Mr b say the rv next summer



I didn't hear Mr. B say that. I will listen after this truth call. I missed that if that was what he said...I sure hope not!





admin006...a lady caller asked him about that...and he said that was in ref to the cryto's...not the RV



calgoldy3...That's good! Whew!



But he is not looking for it any time soon



admin....in the same statement ne said that it could happen anytime...and thought it was close



Any news todaywhat excuse did he have this time.



Wiz you know nothing happens on weekends



Mr B also said he thought that the only holdup with the RV was Article 140....I have not read that....



Admin, it seems nothing happens in the week either



Beny been busy he am looking for the RB



He better have damn good intel and info to back it up !!!



You expect a lot outta Beny

DA CHAT, 8 OCT

Tgirl:   Direction Press / Special  Kurdish political sources revealed the "retreat (outgoing) Massoud Barzani from running for the presidency of the Kurdistan region."

The sources said "the trend Press" on Sunday that "Barzani does not intend to run for the presidency of Kurdistan, citing the reasons that Barzani is constantly looking with the Iraqi state politician to support secession in northern Iraq."

The sources did not announce the alternative candidate for Bazani at the moment or the option of the Democratic Kurdistan to head the Kurdistan .

It is noteworthy that the bloc of Kurdish parliamentary change confirmed on Saturday that "the leader of the movement (Mohammed Tawfiq Rahim) its only candidate for the election of the President of the Kurdistan region to Barzani,.
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The MP for the bloc, Sherine Reza, during a press statement obtained "Trend Press" a copy of him that "the candidate for change was not rejected by the Independent Electoral Commission in Kurdistan"He said.

The Electoral Commission for elections in Kurdistan refused to nominate, Mohamed Tawfiq Rahim, leader of the Movement for Change, for the election of the President of the Kurdistan region.

http://aletejahtv.org/permalink/185439.html
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Phil Oberholzer:    Ty Tgirl. It seems like Barzani's referendum is backfiring on him and his family. It's openned the door for Bagdad to loosen the hold the Barzani family has on Kurdistan. Which may be what is needed for Iraq/Kurdistan to move forward the the HCL and Artical 140.

ZenMav:  Barzani is a little fool.   Just look at that picture of Barzani: a pouting, thumb-sucking little whiney ass baby.  Stole billions... and has the gall to look like that.  Barzani has more than a few billion reasons to disappear into the sunset and buy as much happiness as 25, 30, 35 billion USD will allow.

Sure, money doesn't buy happiness, but hey, we all know the cash won't run out in his life time.  He doesn't even have the sense God gave a politician to say he is retiring to spend more time with his family.

He started to believe his own press rather than confront that he and Talabani sold out all of the Kurds.  I guess they thought they were going to be allowed to steal billions AND keep their seat at the table to dictate policy?  Seriously?  Its is sad how their own conflated egos come back around to expose the ignorant, goat herding tools these people can be.

In the end, Barzani didn't figure out that the billions he stole was his bribe to GTFO and let the West open up the markets.  I wonder if he thought the world was going to play patty-cake with them and create a little country, pick a fight with Turkey & Iran and spoil the true agenda of opening up the Middle East for business.It's hard to appreciate just how blinded these guys are to any big picture.

--POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.” - Ambrose Bierce

Punisher:   Loving it. Karma.

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Tgirl  Administrator:   08/10/2017  Trend Press / Continue

A Saudi newspaper reported on Sunday that the US administration threatened Baghdad, Tehran and Ankara in the event of resorting to any military action against Iraqi Kurdistan.

The newspaper "home" in a report that " Washington has warned Baghdad and Ankara and Tehran of the consequences of resorting to any military action against Kurdistan , " indicating that " the US warning to Tehran move through the Iraqi government, while the warning to Ankara via Iraqi officials and Turkish orientation , "

pointing to "the existence of "It is very likely that Washington or the so-called international coalition will resort to the bombing of any Turkish or Iranian forces or forces of popular mobilization if these parties resort to the use of military force."

" The US forces deployed in Iraq transferred dozens of their soldiers stationed in the outskirts of the capital Baghdad to the areas of Kirkuk and the Nineveh Plain in northern Iraq, and sent a small military force to the Ibrahim al-Khalil crossing between Turkey and Kurdistan in a move to prevent any possible military action."

The newspaper quoted senior sources in the Kurdistan Democratic Party as saying that "the Americans will provide the Kurdish Peshmerga forces any proactive information on movements of military attack by Iraqi forces or Turkish or Iranian, whatever the size of this attack,"

explaining that "the so-called international alliance may carry out limited air strikes by aircraft Unmanned aircraft against Iranian or Turkish forces or forces from the popular crowd, if they invaded areas controlled by the Kurds, "it is likely that the international coalition has provided Kurdistan with sophisticated offensive weapons.

http://aletejahtv.org/permalink/185502.html
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ZenMav:   And, so it begins.  The rumblings of the next US engagement in the Middle East.  We know who our proxies are.  Isreali PM Netanyahu has hawkish tendencies, and the KSA doesn't want any further advance of Shia Iran into the Arabian peninsula.

China is very dependent on Iraqi oil.  So, it'll be interesting to see in what manner China plays ball.  Perhaps they lock down "little Rocket Man" to free up our 2 carrier groups.  Any conflict in/with Iraq will be coming from Turkey & Iran, ostensibly over the "Kurdish question".

Iran is really the only regional power out to spoil the agenda to open up the entire Middle East as a free market.  Russia wants higher oil prices to run their social programs, and they frankly do not care for Islam.  Take out the pedaphile mullahs in Tehran and let the young, intellectuals who want a cosmopolitan life-style start making policy.  The next 8 to 9 months will be interesting.

--POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.” - Ambrose Bierce


Shengwah:   The US position is clearly supportive of the Kurds as long as they stay a part of Iraq. I feel for them, but they're just gonna have to suck it up. There is zero support for an independant Kurdistan, which, if it were to happen, would set the Marshall type plan the US is trying to implement in Iraq back 20 years.

--'Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.' Schiller


Shengwah:   Really, this is good news for us. The day the US abandons a united Iraq is the day our investment is worthless. This tells me the plan is still in place. The US can give the Kurds all kinds of goodies on the side to keep them happy long enough to get Iraq rolling. Whether or not Iraq plays ball is another matter.
--'Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.' Schiller

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Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) News > Finance Committee: Stop banking transactions with Kurdistan maintains the cash reserve

Tgirl  Administrator:    08/10/2017   Trend Press / Baghdad

The parliamentary Finance Committee, to hold discussions with the Central Bank of Iraq on the implementation of mechanisms to stop the financial and banking transactions with Kurdistan and the sale of foreign currency to banks operating in northern Iraq .

"The committee held a meeting with officials of the Central Bank to follow up the mechanisms of implementation of the decisions issued by the parliament on the suspension of all financial and banking dealings with Kurdistan and the sale of foreign currency to banks operating in the provinces of Arbil, Simaniyah and Dohuk . "

He stressed that "the matter includes banks that have branches in the said provinces and their customers in order to maintain the reserve of the Central Bank of foreign currency and prevent leakage . "

He added that "the purpose of the meeting and hosting is to solve all the problems and obstacles to the implementation of the Central Bank of these decisions and to overcome them and proceed with those procedures."

http://aletejahtv.org/permalink/185415.html
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Phil Oberholzer:   I guess they're more interested in the bottom line than people. Lets just hope they can come to some sort of agreement soon. The last thing needed is this to escalade. TY Tgirl.

Punisher:             Greed always wins.

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Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) News > Parliamentary Finance discussed with the Central Bank to suspend financial transactions with the decisions of Kurdistan

Kaperoni  Moderator:
Saturday, 7 October 2017 - 13:06

Revealed the parliamentary Finance Committee member Jabbar Abadi for the Committee held a meeting on Saturday hosted which officials from the central bank in an effort to follow up on the implementation mechanism of the decisions issued by the House of Representatives on the third of October, current on stop all financial and banking with the Kurdistan region trading and non-foreign currency sale to banks operating in the region and the banks that have branches in Kurdistan and its customers in order to maintain the central bank's reserves of foreign currency and prevent leakage on the background of the referendum conducted by the region in the twenty-fifth of last September.

MP Abadi Radio Marbad added that the hosting come to solve all the problems and obstacles that might hinder the implementation of the Central Bank of these decisions in order to overcome them and move necessary for the application of what came out by the House of Representatives procedures

The House of Representatives voted at its meeting last Tuesday on a parliamentary decision on stop all financial and banking transactions with the Kurdistan region that is preserved Kurdish citizens' rights and pressure on the leadership of the region, and compel the Iraqi Central Bank not to sell foreign currency to operating in the Kurdistan region and banks, banks which has branches in the region and its customers in order to maintain the central bank's reserves of foreign currency and to prevent leakage

http://www.almirbad.com/news/view.aspx?cdate=07102017&id=101807a9-eb5e-40d7-a490-190db0bb5dfd
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​Mcduff82:   Thanks Kap. ,very conflicted news a few days ago the cbi said they were resuming banking with Kurdistan

Mike  Moderator:            The CBI is between a rock and a hard place right now. The IMF/WB have insisted on the removal of exchange restrictions and cutting off the Kurd's goes against the stipulations for future loans. This is a definitive moment to demonstrate independence of the CBI. If they resume exchange restrictions it will only reinforce the perception of corruption and GOI interference. IMO  --Stay grounded...

ZenMav  Moderator:      Mike, we all know that the CBI is not independent. Trump is gunning for Rouhani. Iran is in his crosshairs. When nothing has happened come election time in 2018, and Maliki is knocking on the PM-ship once more, the proxy war will begin to stop Iran's decent & progress into the Arabian peninsula.

--POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.” - Ambrose Bierce

PEOPLE DINAR UPDATE, 8 OCT

People's Dinar:

Payray :  Article:  “US Policy Toward Iraq”   Quote:   “... as a result of corrupt currency exchange policies, Iraq is suffering from a crisis of liquidity.” 
 This article seems to contradict what we have been hearing from entities outside of Iraq that are pleased with the progress being made within this country as it concerns their economic policy.

 The CBI was taken over in order to ensure that success was achieved several years ago... Are they planning to replace Alak with another governor?.

I have always been of the opinion that Iraq does not control its destiny as it concerns when the icing is placed on the cake... There is significance to the timing of this it seems.. Otherwise, it would have been accomplished already.

They know what needs to be done, and have even indicated not too long ago it is a go... They will continue to hint at what needs to be done, until it is complete, and a new rate appears.

The fact that they talk about monetary reform, or allude to it is a positive... It is only a matter of when, not if... The very reason why we have nations eager to invest, loan, and open  up their borders to Iraq is they know what is coming.
Operation Disclosure

RV/INTELLIGENCE ALERT - October 8, 2017

A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION WAS HELD IN PHILADELPHIA.

THIS WAS THE RESTORED REPUBLIC.

ARRESTS ARE BEING MADE PRIVATELY AS WE SPEAK.

USN EXPECTED TO BE ACTIVATED AND ANNOUNCED TOMORROW ON MONDAY.

DUNFORD WILL THEN GIVE THE ORDER TO RELEASE THE GCR/RV, BEGIN PUBLIC MASS ARRESTS, AND FULLY RESTORE THE REPUBLIC.

EXCHANGES BEGIN TUESDAY IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED.

DINAR ALERT CHAT, 8 OCT

Dinar Alert

Kaperoni: Float the dinar .. or VAT Kodaf oaths


10/05/2017 (00:01 pm) - Number of readings: 874 - Issue (4033)
Abdul Hussain Hinan

Before the Central Bank of Iraq began to use the term (currency window) instead of (currency auction), which is true simply because there is an auction so that we call the auction, but it is a window to distribute the rations distributed by the bank on the banks monopoly buy the dollar and some of them has any balance inside Iraq , while preventing the Iraqi to buy them.

​And all of these banks are doing is to bring bills are incorrect and certified by commercial attachés in our embassies in Dubai, Beirut, Amman and other during a routine operation takes place in embassies without checking their veracity.

The central bank may impose a ratio of 8% of the value of any bill to silence the few voices objecting to the policy and considered at the time , the percentage represents a customs tax on goods are retrieved after confirming the arrival of the goods to Iraq and the payment of customs duties it.

The new Iraqi central raise the cost of this ratio axed for billing request because it is difficult to verify their authenticity, perhaps most , has nothing to do with any goods up to Iraq in practice which, while traders professional real profession trade, they buy their dollars from the market and not central because they are not customers who insists the central Iraq on the way undone large part of his fortune.

Despite this great wastage of wealth and the decline of the reserve, still insist based on the currency auction or sell the dollar on the window it is the only way, as much as death and there is no other alternative.

Lord means asking whether there is an alternative?

Alternative or solution essential is to float the dinar without hesitation to get rid of the waste of millions of dollars a day, where the Central Bank of Iraq helps wasting hard currency at a rate ranging between 10 to 15 million dollars a day from a corrupt process politically likes to talk about, where everyone seems to be a partner or is unaware the risks.

The people and help the political class in this silent killer, which split into beneficiary layers by proximity or after the government function and all of them put a red line for his interests and his money obtained by the end of the month without work or benefit related to the growth of the economy only contribute to the consumption and environmental pollution.

The pain increases the proportion of 25% of the people who are under the poverty line are preoccupied with sectarian conflict and insults among themselves, and they are not indifferent to what writes serious numbers may threaten the future of their children.

Most government experts kidnapped economic decision in Iraq against floatation also stands for reasons not including Iraq 's interest at all, and cite the reasons for poor obsolete, and we can not convince them, and they are defending their position by saying that the central bank defends the citizen and fear him, especially since most of the goods come from abroad,

and constitutes an answer to a specialist and Fahem market economy, the main reason for the destruction of our industry and our agriculture because of the Iraqi Central Bank 's policy - biased foreign product on the domestic product account,

so we hear from time to time and the other of the conspiracy theory buffs who are a majority in Iraq, the neighboring countries conspire We have in order to kill the Iraqi industry and agriculture by flooding the Iraqi market cheap products without production price in the country of origin.

There really is not crazy sells his goods for less than their actual value or even without a certain profit, no one is conspiring against us and on our local,

but the bitter truth that the central bank donates a significant portion of the value of these goods pay indirectly for foreign product due to the adoption of the value of non - real and exaggerated Iraqi dinar , which made imported products cheap compared to Iraqi counterparts if they were produced,

however , and as long as the insistence continues strongly to reject the float of the dinar, and we not only have the ability to provide proposals publicly, let us explain the practical alternative to the auction currency , which can be applied without real obstacles:

- Bank Sell ​​ Dollar for two reasons, the first is to get Iraqi dinars to meet government requirements, and the second is to maintain the stability of the exchange rate, and Balhalten can achieve these two goals to sell the dollar directly to the Iraqi citizen and not to banks, here turn the default goal of the bank ( be careful citizen) to the real goal of honest .

And what the appropriate mechanism for that?

- checks the number 12 we print a check in each check book ( the number of months of the year), and at a rate of one book per family per year, according to the Ministry of Commerce records.

- family buys checkbook (dollar) in exchange for Iraqi dinars (see check Iranian million riyals rolling in the market).

Some may argue that people are simple and do not know this difficult process, and the fact that man no matter how simple understands profit, however, can also be those of ordinary people to sell their stake to a broker or banking company or any ordinary person in exchange for a portion of the profit posed by the price difference between the central rate and between the parallel market, and thus will win the citizen will not escape the currency.

What about the real traders who ask for the dollar in order to import goods?

- will buy the dollar from the citizen at a lower price than the previous price to buy it, thereby winning the real merchant, while the merchant fake disappears, and win the average difference citizen, the government and get Iraqi dinars to walk their financial transactions will not dollar flee abroad, but will flow of dollars from abroad to home and this Iraq complains of it long ago, where the dollar does not enter Iraq only from the sale of oil.

It remains there trying to put virtual questions designed to thwart any valid idea, and that it is difficult to provide a sufficient amount of dollars inside Iraq under the pretext that the ongoing conversion process gets from the accounts are already outside Iraq,

and the answer: can also sell dollars to banks through remittances provided delivery of the dollar the central bank by the banks and received abroad as being, but for a commission or a specific tax can tax be a surplus value of VAT , a tax that should be Kodaf faith or as a compromise after the cash reserve reached below the $ 40 billion , which is approaching cash cover Almsam M versus monetary bloc in Iraqi dinars , as well as external debt , which reached fairly scary.

The taxation on remittances abroad is not a new innovation, but it is a practice in many economically stable countries Kalamarat, where this tax be imposed to maintain a delicate balance in the economy,

even if it launches the Iraqi Ministry of Finance through the General Authority for taxes on the move, they Stajabi amounted $ 10 billion annually from this tax vehicle at a rate of 19% to fill the part of the imbalance created by the agreement diabolical fiscal policy followed by the Iraqi government and monetary policy followed by the Central Bank of Iraq. LINK

--Today's pizza...sausage, green peppers.

Phil Oberholzer: Nice tasting juice Kap, TY.

"Alternative or solution essential is to float the dinar without hesitation to get rid of the waste of millions of dollars a day, where the Central Bank of Iraq helps wasting hard currency at a rate ranging between 10 to 15 million dollars a day from a corrupt process politically likes to talk about, where everyone seems to be a partner or is unaware the risks."

Tobyboy: This.is good article explaining what is really going on which we have known. And of course the temp CBI governor Keywords also knows this and is just as corrupt as the corrupt politicians. 

This is interesting Quote " family buys checkbook (dollar ) in exchange for Iraqi dinars ( see check Iranian million riyals rolling in the market "

The politicians are not going to pay any attention to this with all the money they making on their corruption.. Somehow the IMF has to step in to correct this with the help of some honest politicians if there are any.

Kaperoni: The IMF can only lead them to water. The Iraqi's have to follow the plan and do it right or they will lose it all. So far, it's not been working out, the next few months will be interesting. --Today's pizza...sausage, green peppers.

Punisher: The guy in the picture looks like a nazi sympathizer.
--"The Guilty Will Be Punished"

Art: interesting stuff kap

Mike: I wonder how the pumpers are receiving this article, this puts the kibosh on the whole $1-$3 dollar RV. Floating the dinar outside of Article VIII seems nuts, even under Article VIII Egypt and Yemen lost purchasing power in their respective currencies, what will it do to the dinar? --Stay grounded...

Shengwah: It looks to me like the corrupt politicians intend to ride this sinking ship right into the sea. --'Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.' Schiller

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Kaperoni: Iraq General News > Pentagon: Al-Baghdadi is still alive

History Tahrir:: 2017/10/6 8:24 [Oan- follow - up]

US Department of Defense said [Pentagon], on Thursday evening, the audio recording of the terrorist leader Daesh, Abu Bakr al - Baghdadi, evidence that the latter is still alive. "

The Anatolia news agency quoted Turkish, ministry spokesman, Eric said position in life, " The US intelligence confirmed that the voice message attributed to Abu Bakr al - Baghdadi, looks authentic."

He added , "logically, confirmed registration] that he was alive until recently, or at least until the time of recording his voice."

Last week, one of the sites Daesh published, an audiotape said that the leader of the Daesh, Abu Bakr al - Baghdadi, in which he urged his followers to "continue fighting, and attacks against the West."

It is said that Russia had announced last July that it had killed al - Baghdadi in Syria air strike late last May with a large number of terrorists at a meeting on the outskirts of tenderness.

The United States denied the Iraqi government and the news, said he was still hiding in the border region yen Iraq and Syria.

The US State Department was considered in 2011 , al - Baghdadi , a global terrorist, and has allocated $ 25 million reward for information leading to the arrest or kill him.

And is about to end Daesh in Iraq after the liberation of the entire province of Nineveh , and recently Hawija and stayed Tuahdha only in the border with Syria, specifically in western Anbar and liberated country will be free of them.

Moscow announced yesterday that Daesh controls less than 10% in the Syrian territory.

http://dinaralert.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/new?forum_id=5120031

--Today's pizza...sausage, green peppers.

Justwaiting: Well, saw this couple days ago. Now, I will be a pessimist - confirming that the voice is his does not indicate to me that he is still alive. There is no date that they have been able to tie to this recording. So, ~ hmmn or at least until the time of recording his voice."

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Kaperoni: Washington: Liberation Hawija a big step towards the expulsion of Daesh from Iraq

Since 05/10/2017 19:21 am (Baghdad time) BAGHDAD - The balance of News

Washington said that the liberation of Hawija represents a significant step towards the full expulsion Daesh from Iraqi territory, noting it was a fierce battle and could not be resolved without the courage and sacrifices of the Iraqi forces in the field and with the support of the coalition.

She congratulated the United States Embassy in Iraq in a statement received / balance News /, a copy of the Iraqi security forces managed under the leadership of Prime Minister al-Abadi of the city and the citizens of liberation from the control of al-Hawija Daesh.

She said that "as Hawija, one of the last strongholds of Daesh in Iraq, editing represents a significant step towards the full expulsion Daesh from Iraqi territory."

She also noted that "the battle of liberation Hawija was a fierce battle and could not be resolved without the courage and sacrifices of the Iraqi forces in the field and with the support of the coalition."

She stressed that "the defeat of Daesh in the end will depend on the continued close cooperation between all Iraqi security forces, including the Iraqi army and anti-terrorism police and federal and local forces and the popular crowd and the Kurdish Peshmerga, which are united by a common goal against violence and oppression inflicted Daesh of the Iraqi people."

She concluded by saying that "the United States stands proudly with the Government and the people of Iraq and we are working together to ensure a peaceful and prosperous future," .anthy 29 / m h n

LINK

--Today's pizza...sausage, green peppers.

monty.monks.007: Sounds like its done.

Punisher: Yes it does. Job well done to all who fought bravely!

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Kaperoni: Iraq Government News > A new crisis in parliament pending the resolution of a court!

Since 06.10.2017 at 12:58 (Baghdad time) Baghdad balances News

Escalate the political crisis between Baghdad and Erbil, without a glimmer of hope in the opportunity for dialogue and solving problems at the negotiating table, because of the hardening of the positions of the two parties after the referendum on the independence of the Kurdistan region on 25 September / September last.

And it came to demand the Iraqi parliament speaker Salim al-Jubouri, to hold accountable the participants in the referendum judicial Kurdish deputies, and directing a letter to the Federal Court in this matter, the floats on the surface question about the future of the Kurdish deputies after this judicial escalation.

MP Mahmoud Hassan member of the Legal Parliamentary Committee said, "The House of Representatives face the book to the Federal Court in this regard and is awaiting."

He explained Hassan, according to a statement for "free site", that "any action or the next step of the Iraqi parliament depends on the opinion of the Federal Court, and what it will recommend actions that can be taken against those who participated in the referendum, which was the result of independence support."

What is the opinion of the law?

"Constitution a formula section, in which phrases express commitment to the independence of Iraq and the maintenance of the Constitution, and therefore it is possible that this is a basic rule used by the Federal Court in giving opinion declaratory to the House of Representatives regarding the position of the House of Representatives who took part in the referendum," says the legal and constitutional expert Iraqi Maitham Handal.

Handal is likely that "the Federal Court based on which state levels issued by the unconstitutional referendum before the vote," and see in the act of violation of the House of Representatives, and thus a healthy exercise of accountability procedures against them in the House of Representatives or even move complaints in other jurisdictions as possible be adopted by the public prosecutor. "

The public prosecutor asked on September 27 / September to take legal action against those responsible for the conduct of the referendum in the Kurdistan region in front of the Central Investigation Court, according to the announcement by the official spokesman of the Supreme Judicial Council Judge Abdul Sattar Bayraktar.

The judge said Bayraktar said that "the procedure was based on the Ministerial Council for National Security approved by the decision of the House of Representatives, and the violation of the referendum decision of the Federal Supreme Court."

Bayraktar said that "the public prosecutor asked the Ministerial Council for National Security and the competent authorities a list of names of persons in conflict with the Constitution and the decision of the Federal Court to take legal action against them according to the law."

Possible Scenarios

"Constitutional law is a legal provisions regulating political action", which according to Handal between the Federal Court "will take into account" this aspect in its recommendations are not hamper the political action of the government.

"Suspension" may be a member of the parliament, according to Handal, is improbable until the decision on the matter, ruling out at the same time, "the abolition of" organic, "because it disrupts the work of the House of Representatives, and here comes the political considerations that appreciation back to the Federal Court."

Handal explains that awaited the Federal Court decision, may give the powers of the House of Representatives to take action within certain mechanisms.

Among the expected "to lift the immunity by the House of Representatives and then the rest of the follow-up procedures procedures, or may be so they can be the formation of investigative committees within the House of Representatives, or to refer the matter to the ordinary courts and public prosecutors shall move the complaints against them," according to expectation Handal.

If proved the participation of the deputies in the referendum, according to the laws in place, "then the right of defense will be guaranteed for all."

In the end Handal believes that the escalation of the crisis between Baghdad and Erbil "will continue until a political solution to the issue, and therefore will not be so they can be to any action at this stage" .anthy

LINK 

Kw: It is amazing how they want to apply the constitution...not when it requires them to apply article 140

Mike: Ditto kw, the hypocrisy out of Baghdad is epic. This is a smart play by the GOI, get the corrupt and in the bag Federal Court to delegitimize every Kurdish leader who participated and install their own puppets in Erbil.

The problem is, they'd have to go and get them, and for sure that's not happening. Every displaced politician out of Baghdad went to Kurdistan first to avoid arrest and prosecution because they knew that Baghdad had no chance of actually going there and arresting them.

Hashemi, Issawi and others have all traveled to Erbil and left the country from there because Baghdad is impotent and a toothless tiger, the Peshmerga would put them down quick.

All this will do is prove the Kurd's point and rally the Kurdish people for further steps of independence, Baghdad's stupidity is playing right into the Kurd's hands. Iran's shills in the GOI are not negotiating with the Kurd's, punitive measures are all we see coming out of Baghdad and it's going to backfire on them in a big way. --Stay grounded...

JR & TNT UPDATE, 8 OCT

From JR:    Here is some good news for Iraq today.

ISIS Fighters, Having Pledged to Fight or Die, Surrender en Masse

DIBIS, Iraq — The prisoners were taken to a waiting room in groups of four, and were told to stand facing the concrete wall, their noses almost touching it, their hands bound behind their backs.

More than a thousand Islamic State fighters passed through that room this past week after they fled their crumbling Iraqi stronghold of Hawija. Instead of the martyrdom they had boasted was their only acceptable fate, they had voluntarily ended up here in the interrogation center of the Kurdish authorities in northern Iraq.
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For an extremist group that has made its reputation on its ferociousness, with fighters who would always choose suicide over surrender, the fall of Hawija has been a notable turning point. The group has suffered a string of humiliating defeats in Iraq and Syria, but the number of its shock troops who turned themselves in to Kurdish officials at the center in Dibis was unusually large, more than 1,000 since last Sunday.

The fight for Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest city, took nine months, and by comparison, relatively few Islamic State fighters surrendered. Tal Afar fell next, and more quickly, in only 11 days. Some 500 fighters surrendered there.

The Iraqi military ousted the Islamic State, also known as ISIS and ISIL, from Hawija in 15 days, saying it had taken its forces only three days of actual heavy fighting before most of the extremists grabbed their families and ran. According to Kurdish officials, they put up no fight at all, other than planting bombs and booby traps.

Seen up close, the fighters’ pretense of bravado soon disappears.

Their shoes were taken from them, their pockets emptied and their belts discarded, and, as they stood facing the wall, the backs of their dishdashas were stained with the evidence that some of them had not been to a toilet in days.

One of the men smelled so bad that when he was taken into the small interrogation room, those inside were startled. He filled the doorway, appearing even larger than his actual size. The interrogator unbuckled his hip holster, resting his right hand on his pistol. Everyone in the room seemed scared of the man, even though his hands were tied behind his back. His thick black hair was Medusa-wild and shoulder-length, though his handsome face had only a wisp of black stubble on the chin.

https://nyti.ms/2y5bol0

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/world/middleeast/isis-iraq-surrender.html

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TNT:

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Harambe:  AP News: Iraq parliament speaker to visit Kurdish region amid impasse https://apnews.com/45a7cd2b2449456faf24aa390e9df030

Rawa and Al Qaim last two left/Lifting Kurds Sanctions

SITREP, 8 OCT

SITREP (Situation Report)

10-7-17

10:34 PM EDT

Deep Source (GCR/RV):

"Chinese quantum financial system is operational. All banking protocols are in place. System processing complete. Exchange center staff are on call. The USN was fully distributed across the globe ready to immediately replace the USD. Elders have inputted a final release schedule into the system. Schedule date classified."

Deep Source (Resistance):
"Internal arrests have been made, more on the way."

Deep Source (The Alliance):
"Alliance forces continue to search and destroy remaining MIC HAARP submarines."

Note from Deep Source(s):
"Please note: Intel that is being provided from us to you is indeed accurate but completely raw and does have a tendency to not follow through. There is no denying that we are all in frustration and loss of patience. It is entirely a fact that intel being provided is real, but there are constant on-going activities that change the situation. This is agonizing but you mustn't lose hope. Nothing lasts forever."

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IQD CHAT, 8 OCT

DinarResearcher: Kurdistan: Barzani, Allawi and Nujaifi agreed to lift sanctions on the region   Saturday 7 October 2017 - 09:00 PM

DinarResearcher: The presidency of the Kurdistan region, on Saturday, that the President of the region, Massoud Barzani, and Vice President of the Republic Iyad Allawi and Osama Najafi, they discussed how to solve the problems between Baghdad and Erbil, and agreed to immediately lift the sanctions imposed on the territory by the central government.

DinarResearcher: The Presidency said in a statement today received a copy of it, Barzani met today in Sulaymaniyah and on the sidelines of the funeral of former President Jalal Talabani, with Allawi and Nujaifi, and discussed with them the current problems between the region and the center.
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DinarResearcher: The Presidency of the region in its statement, said the tripartite meeting included a discussion of the current situation in the country and how to solve the problems on the Iraqi political scene, while the President of the Office of the Presidency of the region, the meeting resulted in agreement on these points, according to the statement.

DinarResearcher: 1 - start meetings and discussions between the main political parties to calm the situation.

DinarResearcher: 2. Meetings should be to discuss open agendas.

DinarResearcher: 3 - lifting the sanctions on the Kurdistan region immediately.

DinarResearcher: 4. Start the meetings soon, and rely on a special mechanism for continuous coordination between the political parties.

DinarResearcher:

http://www.almirbad.com/mobile/news/view.aspx?cdate=07102017&id=38fcd343-0920-471d-a941-808e7519f68d

DinarResearcher: Foil plan to target Baghdad and Najaf and killed close to Baghdadi plans to blow up Karrada. 10/07/2017

DinarResearcher: http://iraaqi.com/news.php?id=32137&news=1#.Wdk2C0FOmaM

DinarResearcher: I have noticed that security forces are doing a better job in keeping up with security in Baghdad... When was the last time we heard of bombs going off in the Capital... It has drastically been reduced quite a bit.. I have not seen much of this kind of stability in a long time!

DinarResearcher: From the black to the green map of Iraq has thus become

DinarResearcher: 10/07/2017
DinarResearcher: Channel Abba / Private

DinarResearcher: On Saturday, the Al-Harbi Information Cell published a picture showing what remains of Daish in Iraq.

DinarResearcher: "After the liberation of the province of Hawija, there is an urgent siege in a small part of the western Anbar region, which is the judiciary of Rao and al-Qaim," the photo said.

DinarResearcher: http://www.alebaatv.com/archives/193101

Spectra: are you sure that's the END of it??-lol

chattels: @DinarResearcher Wednesday, October 4, 2017 728 Dead And 549 Wounded In September 2017 In Iraq http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2017/10/728-dead-and-549-wounded-in-september.html

chattels: @DinarResearcher No one keeps good / better statistics on violence in IRAQ THAN jOEL wING.

chattels: @DinarResearcher Iraq saw another low in violence in September 2017. There were the fewest security incidents, deaths, and wounded recorded this year. There were just 306 security incidents reported in the media. That surpassed the previous low of 357 in August. In January 2016, there were an average of 23.3 incidents per day. By September 2017 that was down to 10.2 per day.

DinarResearcher: TY for sharing Chattels

chattels: @DinarResearcher Baghdad led the way during the month with 82 incidents, followed by 65 in Ninewa, 40 in Anbar, 35 in Diyala, 31 in Salahddin, 26 in Kirkuk, 12 in Babil, 3 in Basra, 3 in Dhi Qar, 3 in Kurdistan, 2 in Najaf, 2 in Sulaymaniya, 1 in Irbil, and 1 in an unknown location.

Spectra: @DinarResearcher hey and thank you

chattels: @DinarResearcher My pleasure.

DinarResearcher: Looks like from the stats it is definitely going in the direction we need it to go

DinarResearcher: Good Stuff

DinarResearcher: @Spectra, It's a team effort. I do what I can to try and help others. It is little compared to what others do in here
Baxter: are we rich yet? ;$$ ;$$ ;banana

DinarResearcher: More than 77,000 Iraqis left the country last month on board one company

DinarResearcher: Revision date: 2017/10/7 17:57

DinarResearcher: (Baghdad: Al Furat News) The General Company of Iraqi Airways recorded a clear increase in the number of flights to the national carrier at the Baghdad International Airport station and an increase in the number of departing passengers coming from Baghdad to different countries of the world and vice versa.

DinarResearcher: "Registered flights in September were 767 flights with 77,596 departures, while the number of incoming passengers reached 88,000 and 890 passengers with a full occupancy rate exceeding 90%," said Miran Faridvi, general manager of the company.

DinarResearcher: Farid attributed the increase to increased interest and field visits to the opening of the Baghdad-Moscow line.

DinarResearcher: "These rates are expected to rise further in the coming days as the season of religious tourism and facilities for travelers begin," Farid said.

DinarResearcher: http://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=151597

DinarResearcher: I am not gonna bring this whole entire article in its entirety, just the last part of it.

DinarResearcher: Nujaifi calls for "respect stubbornness" Barzani "! 10/07/2017

DinarResearcher: "The problems now existing between the region and Baghdad are constitutional and legal disputes are overlapping," expressing "his refusal to impose sanctions on the region." He said, "We can reassure the Kurdistan region and neighboring countries to settle differences,"

noting "the need to find an Iraqi solution to crises. Nationalist Iyad Allawi, Saturday, that efforts are continuing with the United Nations and the Arab League to resolve differences between the central government in Baghdad and the Kurdistan region, expressing optimism about resolving the crisis

DinarResearcher: LINK


chattels: Parliamentary conditions could be worse in Iraq. Look at this.

https://twitter.com/AfricaMeanwhile/status/916279179502587904

Blackgold: I'm baaaaack---smiling

boomer: @DinarResearcher How about the Bagdad Obits...can you get those?

Blackgold: obits or orbits
Blackgold: or electronic currency

Blackgold: those words can mean many things
Blackgold: Orbit airport, orbit pipeline

Dave: ...well I see they almost made quorum today......Kurds sat out mourning MR T.......

chattels: [Ayna-Baghdad] postponed the House of Representatives its regular session, which was scheduled to be held on Saturday to next Monday. "The reason for not holding the meeting is because of the lack of quorum, where the record of the presence of 158 deputies only, referring to the transformation of the meeting to a meeting of committees, and the postponement of its agenda to the meeting next Monday."

 It was scheduled to vote the House of Representatives during its meeting today on the proposal to amend the law of the Electoral Commission for the elections and completes the vote on the draft amendment to the Third Law of Governorates not organized in a region.
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66816

chattels: [Ayna-Baghdad] The commander of the Hawijah Liberation Forces Special Forces General Staff Abdul-Amir Rasheed Yarallah imposed military forces and the popular crowd full control of the Hamrin mountain range. "The nine divisions of the army and the popular crowd were able to impose their full control over the Makhol mountain range from the Zghitun bridge and even the bridge of the hole for a distance of 45 km and a depth of 15 km," Yarallah said in a press release to the media media unit.

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66813
Dave: @chattels Read some news today stating Kurds did not show up due to the mourning of Talabani

chattels: @Dave Not surprising, eh ?
xyz: @Dave some kurds got kicked too

Dave: @chattels 35 seats ish....they show up when it is in their interests......I think the election laws are within their interests...?

chattels: I expect that Parliament will be more dysfunctional than ever unless and until the rhetoric over the referendum can be channeled more constructively.

chattels: @Dave The election laws are hung up over minority representation it appears to me.

Dave: @chattels only need 164 for quorum?
chattels: @Dave Maybe 165 ?

xyz: A parliamentary committee votes to end the membership of MPs who participated in the referendum http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.alsumaria.tv/news/217949/-

Dave: @xyz I doubt/hope that would happen any time soon

chattels: @Dave I believe that there are 328 seats and more than 50% is required for a quorum as best I recall. Been awhile since I looked at it.

xyz: @Dave this iraq we are talking about.

Dave: Glass is half full....

xyz: Barzani refused to drop the body of Talabani only after the Kurdish flag

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Falforatnews.com%2Fmodules%2Fnews%2Farticle.php%3Fstoryid%3D151619&sandbox=1

xyz: @Dave glass is half empty per @BREW

Dave: ......lol
Dave: well the Iraqi flag is closest to him......

Blackgold: Goi is no more dysfunctional than the USG

Dave: @Blackgold where would you prefer to live?

chattels: This is a dysfunctional Parliament

https://twitter.com/AfricaMeanwhile/status/916279179502587904

chattels: Sunni Arab tribes support Kurdistan’s referendum, reject sanctions

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/215f5e50-3b3d-4fa0-a27d-a705f432478b

chattels: How a Russian oil giant bankrolled the Kurdish split from Iraq

https://news.vice.com/story/how-a-russian-oil-giant-bankrolled-the-kurdish-split-from-iraq … via @vicenews

chattels: Kirk H. Sowell‏ @UticaRisk 3h3 hours ago More Kirk H. Sowell Retweeted Kamal Chomani This @vicenews article isn't too bad in content, but the headline is just flat out wrong. https://twitter.com/UticaRisk?lang=en&lang=en

chattels: 10 Kurdish MPs may lose seats in Baghdad for independence vote By Rudaw 1 hour ago http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/071020176

Dave: @chattels As long as 165 show .......only 7 short

Dave: @chattels Talabani consolation prevents Kurdish deputies from attending the parliament session today In the policy of October 7, 2017 on the consolation of Talabani prevents Kurdish deputies from attending the session of parliament today closed 49 visits Baghdad / SNG - Member of the Kurdistan Alliance MP Amin Bakr, Saturday, that the deputies of the Kurdistan Alliance will not attend the session of the parliament today because of their participation in the councils of condolence on the late Iraqi President Jalal Talabani.

xyz: Quality is not an act, it is a habit. [Aristotle]

xyz: If you're going through ****, keep going. [Winston Churchill]

xyz: Kurdish Political Heavyweight Announces Plan to Shake Up Voters http://iraqdailyjournal.com/story-z16001250

Jere2518: How do I find Benny on Facebook please?

xyz: I keep my political views to myself. [Nick Jonas]

xyz: An empty stomach is not a good political adviser. [Albert Einstein]

xyz: Judicial abuse occurs when judges substitute their own political views for the law. [Lamar S. Smith]
xyz: After Losing Millions To Nigerian Scammers, A Bankrupt Boris Becker Is Liquidating His Assets

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-07/after-losing-millions-nigerian-scammers-bankrupt-boris-becker-liquidating-his-assets

A portion of the following chat is off Dinar topic but hoping of interest & helpful

RickeyT: @chattels how are you?
chattels: @RickeyT not bad, you ?

xyz: It is wise to direct your anger towards problems - not people; to focus your energies on answers - not excuses. [William Arthur Ward]

RickeyT: @chattels I am strongly considering quitting chemo. It's been non stop pain since June.

Duke77: @RickeyT there used to be a holistic doctor around Birmingham and one in St Louis. The one St Louis has cured thousands the cancer hospitals sent home to die. I can get you some information if you want me to. The one in St Louis never lost a patient

RickeyT: @chattels I think I am ready to quit
Spectra: go holistic Ricky

chattels: @RickeyT Only you can determine the balance between quality and the promise / hope of longevity my friend.

RickeyT: @chattels This isn't living friemd.
chattels: @RickeyT I hear your frustration and wish that I could fix it.

RickeyT: @chattels I went thru this with my dad, he had ALS.
chattels: @RickeyT Life is not fair and bad things happen to good people like you.

RickeyT: @chattels I am not special, just a regular working stiff. I do have morals though.

[pm]mod: @RickeyT ALS is a tough one
Baxter: yes it is.... I had a cousin die of ALS.... horrible death..
[pm]mod: So unfair

Baxter: he started stuttering at first.... then.. had to walk with a cane... then into a wheelchair.. he finally choked to death on his own saliva... took him about two years..

RickeyT: @mod yes, I contacted the Muscular Dystrophy assn, no help, the Doc at Baylor that created stem cell, no help, zero has been spent on research.

RickeyT: @Baxter my dad suffocated
Baxter: yes.. thats about what he did... he was 58

RickeyT: I need to go, have a good night everyone, Chattles, thank you for your kindness

[pm]mod: what kind of stem cell?
[pm]mod: young 58

Duke77: If anyone else wants this information I will post it below
Duke77: Dr Larry Rawdon OSA 's garden 256-764-7663 256-764-7667

Baxter: yes he was.. great physical shape too was a bicyclist racer..it was nothing for him to ride a 100 mile bike race....

Duke77: He's a holistic doctor that's heals cancer patients
skippy: does anyone have the link for the Ooootahs call?

Tebow: @Rickety keep the faith. i know the tuff times your going. My wife passed from cancer 20 yrs gap at 33.
Baxter: Never heard of that one...

[pm]mod: @skippy www.iqdcalls.com/Oootahs.html Kind of a feel good call but hope they are right?

TWW: @RickeyT holistic Ricky
TWW: @Duke77 I DO, t/y

TWW: @Duke77 My wife passed at 30
Tebow: @TWW mine at 33

chattels: Such hurt and hardship for you all. Very sorry for it.

TWW: @Tebow really tuff when u loos one so dearly. I lost my oldest in Pakistan & my yungst at a crosswalk hit by a illegal worker DRUNK Driving!!

Tebow: your world changes overnight.
TWW: @Tebow it did each time
Tebow: Yes

Duke77: @TWW You are welcome. Maybe this will help some others to live longer

TWW: @Duke77 see the link

Duke77: The information to the doctor? Send it?

TWW: @Duke77 is it dr Rawdon???

Tebow: Dr diagnose hemorrhoids 6 months later found to be cancer

Duke77: Yes

Duke77: Dr Larry Rawdon OSA 's garden 256-764-7663 256-764-7667

Tebow: I now don't trust doctors

TWW: @Duke77 T/Y much, mahalo nui

[pm]mod: @chattels :good :ty:

Duke77: National Health Magazines #1 nutritional health supplement and the number 1 protocol next to chemo for cancer is LIMU. My cousin uses it every day and he's been healed of skin cancer

Duke77: Limu

TWW: @Duke77 Im a member of HSI, Health Science Institute, an alternative research group. I joined them 5 years ago & lots of good research. 
​chattels: [Ayna-Baghdad] The parliamentary legal committee decided during a meeting today to form a committee to follow up the implementation of the decision of the House of Representatives regarding the deputies participating in the referendum in the Kurdistan region, which took place on 25 September last.

"Four deputies have been nominated to follow up the implementation of the resolution, and they are [Kamel al-Zaidi, Sheikh Ali, Alia Nassif, Sadiq al-Alban]," the document, which was received by the All Iraq agency, said.

 http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66819

chattels: If this committee is as productive as the many others formed over the years to implement various Parliamentary intitiatives then the KUrdish MP's should be very safe from being unseated.

chattels: "I asked him, 'Son, what is it with you? Is it ignorance or apathy?' He said, 'Coach, I don't know and I don't care.'"

BREW: @mod www.iqdcalls.com/Oootahs.html

Duke77: @TWW I need to become more active in that sort of thing. After the RV I want to purchase a couple of Hyperbaric chambers and offer free treatment to cancer patients and get with a holistic doctor to assist in their treatments. Possibly use it as a non profit for those in need and sell the herbal supplements to others who aren't terminal to help fund the business

TWW: @Duke77 Iv been doing that type of counseling for over 20 years for diabetic. I was able reverse mine from well over 200++ for twenty years. Now I wake up with under 120 & my A1C went from 9 down to 6 now. Alone with our family foundation, diabetics is one of my personal focus. The RV funds will go directly to our foundation. All BOD's & Trustee mems all are holding currencies. We'v all agreed that 96% of all exchanges will go into our foundation.

http://www.iqdcalls.com/chat/