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Friday, September 8, 2017

Special ZIM Q&A Training TNT Rayran98

IQD CHAT, 8 SEPT

Chat Room News Excerpts & Highlights Late Thursday PM  9-07-17

BREW: @Zig IRAQ WOULD BE VERY SMART TO COME OUT LOW, THEY WOULD RAKE THIS DINAR OFF THE STREET AS IF IT WAS TRASH, I WOULD BE RIGHT BEHIND THEM. :yes:

BREW: @Zig RIGHT NOW, I HAVE OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS ON MY MIND......(IRMA)

[pm]Zig: @BREW : Yeah...looks very dangerous...Stay safe and GOOD LUCK!!

BREW: @Zig THANKS

xyz: Float to $3.21 for 6 months = $3.21 rv on180th day
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xyz: An Iranian official has revealed that major international banks are suspending their dealings with Iran under the specter of the return of international sanctions as Tehran continues to violate international resolutions, especially with regard to its support for terrorism and the continued development of its controversial missile program.

https://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en&u=http://www.alforat.info/index.php%3Fpage%3Darticle%26id%3D49869

xyz: The United States newspaper reported in a new report that Washington supports the President of the Kurdistan region, Massoud Barzani, to hold a referendum this month in the region, and the rebellion against the central government in Baghdad.

https://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.knoozmedia.com/254628/-

Jo: @xyz and all chaters "Theory" a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation - NOT necessarily Proven. i.e.: Theory of relativity & believe it or not Gravity is only a Theory https://youtu.be/D-GmyP_snUc ;thinking:

Jo: uses of the word "Theory" that imply that something is unproven or speculative (which is better characterized by the word 'hypothesis')

Jo: Hypothesis DEFINED - generally base scientific hypotheses on previous observations that CANNOT satisfactorily be explained

Spectra: True ??????

Meatball: Its all a guessing game anyway

Tebow: if Iraq came out low they would not rake in the dinar as some seem to think. The investment world would go wild and buy up the dinar. Then if Iraq ever did go to $3.21 which it would never do because then there is no way Iraq could back the dinar at $3.21. Kap is an idiot who found some paper written by 3 economist who did not even work for the CBI. They were giving their opinion and you know how opinions go.

Sergio: Just saying hello and goodnight

Meatball: @Sergio hey there

Sergio: Meat just getting home from the bakery. Just letting you and a few I am alive lol

Meatball: @Sergio glad to hear.... just got home from work

Meatball: @Tebow where was 3 dollar plus mentioned?

Tebow: XYZ earlier

Meatball: @Tebow as much as I would love to see that rate I don't believe it possible in any realistic way

Meatball: only in guru nonsense

Tebow: agree most I see is 1 to 1, but who knows
Tebow: they need to rid their streets of USD
Kaperoni: Since Tebow wants to insult me, let me explain why he is the *********.

1. The CBI can never revalue for the simple reason there is over 40 trillion dinar in circulation (over 3 times the worlds money supply) which would instantly bankrupt the country,

2. floating the dinar is the replacement for the daily currency auctions in which the CBI profits. If they were to revalue, they would be short changing themselves on the commissions they can make as the dinar appreciates, and

3. nobody would "buy" it up. Which appears to be some stupid response by Tebow to justify his hope for a revaluation. You cannot buy what does not exist. A float is just like any other country who floats and you can see in those models, nobody is buying up those currencies beyond the international financial environment.

The CBI does expect and want it's currency to traded through the global financial system as well as the markets. Though there has been comments published in the past about a 1 to $1 rate, it was never stated it would occur overnight. In fact, it simply cant.

Kaperoni: And finally, Tebow makes some claim that Iraq needs to get rid of the dollar in Iraq. That will never happen. Countries like Iraq sell oil for dollar and store dollars as reserves.

They will always have dollars. What they need to do is reduce the spread before the Official Rate of the dinar and the Market Rate of the dinar within 2% (about 1200 to $1) to meet compliance. In doing so, this will allow them to accept Article VIII of the IMF, and reduce what is termed.."multiple currency practice"

which is a reference to pricing of goods at two different rates within the same country as the result of the countries currency exceeding the allowed spread. It has nothing to do with the dollar. The dollar will always be in Iraq.

They hope is that once the dinar is worth more, or has a value that exceeds the dollar, citizens would desire it over the dollar. In doing so, the dollar would of course be less prevalent. But that is not a requirement or condition set forth by the IMF.

Meatball: hey Kap

Kaperoni: I really think it is disservice to those who hold dinar to not know the facts, especially when so many provide misleading information. Tebow has no idea what he is talking about and those who read what is spews should ignore it.

Kaperoni: Hi meatball
Meatball: how ya feeling
tman23: @Kaperoni

Kaperoni: Im fine, but I get frustrated when people want to insult others especially when we work so hard to provide real factual information.
Kaperoni: hi tman

Kaperoni: Hope everyone leaves florida for a few days. Sounds like its going to get ugly

tman23: @Kaperoni ......How about emerging market bonds sold to governments with a dinar value........ 1 trillion dinar bond for 1 billion usd....... A way to circumvent the currency speculator for sure.......

Meatball: @Kaperoni no doubt.... there saying Fema is out of money

Kaperoni: To be honest, I do not know enough about Iraq's bonds to comment. I question if they are priced in dinar.

Kaperoni: My guess is they are not in dinar, but dollars.
Kaperoni: Yea, going to be a mess in Florida
Kaperoni: gators galore

tman23: @Kaperoni .....That bond issue is something I just can't get a straight answer on .......been trying for 1 year now.......... There are some in dollars but there was an "emerging bond" issue......which was only to USA

Kaperoni: The most recent bond that was not backed by the UST was not in dinar.
Kaperoni: it did sell well though
Kaperoni: That's about all I know though.

tman23: @Kaperoni .....And interesting enough with Steve Fischer resigning from the Fed board of governors followed up by Trump meeting with Schumer and Pelosi ..... And talk of not lifting the debt ceiling but removing it ......

There is a lot going on here and it should be exposed a whole lot more by Oct 15........

And has to do with trillions in infrastructure building.......

​right now jockeying for position as political parties want to be in the light of getting some recognition for whats coming.......... Not to say this is dinar related but sure is something on the cooker

Kaperoni: http://www.alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=142472

Kaperoni: That describes the last round of bonds

Kaperoni: I read today many of those who returned to Mosul are leaving again because they cannot find work or a place to live

Kaperoni: Well, my dog wants to go for a walk. Have a great night!

tman23: @Kaperoni ....... What I am speaking of is not through some public media outlet...... or IMF press release...... This is one of those late weekend Congress / Treasury deals...... which is in transcripts but not clear on the bonds.....which others were very clear to be valued in USD......and to be paid in USD

Tebow: 40 trillion in circulation? Where's your proof. Maybe at one time but not now!

Tebow: Kraperoni yes most countries have dollars, but they are in their reserves not on the streets!

Tebow: and Kraperoni when Iraq revalues the holding in IQD also goes up in value. Like the dinars you might hold which I question.

Tebow: The 2% is more Kraperoni BS. They will never be within 2%. The IMF knows this. In 2003 the dinar lost value due to the war, it can regain its true value the same way it was taken.

tman23: I'll say it for the last time........ If you applied the logic and laws of currency YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER INVESTED IN THE IRAQI DINAR SPECULATION.......

In 2008 we seen trillions evaporate overnight from the markets......

That being said: The speculation is and has been that they can manipulate it to replace trillions just as they did to lose it........ And if you say NO there are laws, well there were laws before......Dodd Frank put in new regulations and it could not happen again........

Guess what.......those have been repealed and rolled back....... So yes.....the door is open, were just waiting to see what comes through.......

tman23: The Kurds are placing an immense amount of pressure on Baghdad...... Either Baghdad moves forward or they will become the pissing post as Kurdistan blossoms and flies by at sonic speed........

Cree: @xyz Anyone who purchased the Iranian currency has a very long wait for an RV as long as Trump is president..... Not a good investment other then GURU;s pumping it......

Cree: @xyz I weas talking to Kaperoii here this afternoon. Past the BS, he thought the Dinar could RV at maybe $,25 cents by the end of the year. He also thought that 6 months after the $.25 it could be $1.00/ I asked him about $3.++ and his thought was NOT IN OUR LIFETIME.

I think I got it right. Now I do not believe that anyone knows for sure but I also think that most of us are Past DREAMING...

Cree: good night all. or good morning depending on when you are reading this....

Cree: I do not know Kap and met him for the first time today. For those who know me I am jaded and highly suspect of anyone's comments. But I must say Kap did make a lot of sense. TIME WILL tell....

xyz: @Cree and what does Kap call 25cents from 0.086 cents? Float or RV? haha

xyz: Iraqi official: Erbil-Baghdad referendum talks collapse

http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/08092017

Baghdad considers the vote unilateral and unconstitutional, while Erbil accuses the Iraqi government of having violated at least 55 articles of the Iraqi constitution, including Article 140 that concerns areas Erbil calls Kurdistani including the multi-ethnic and oil rich Kirkuk but whose status is disputed and therefore claimed by the two sides. 
xyz: Kurdish leader expects postponing referendum

http://www.iraqtradelinknews.com/2017/09/kurdish-leader-expects-postponing.html Sulaimaniya/ Iraq TradeLink:

A Kurdish leader at the Islamic Group Shwan Zayer stressed that the independence referendum faces many “internal and external” obstacles, despite the insistence of the Kurdish authorities to hold it in time.

 xyz: Final touches on Iraqi 2018 national budget

http://www.iraqtradelinknews.com/2017/09/final-touches-on-iraqi-2018-national.html Baghdad/ Iraq TradeLink:

Iraqi Parliamentary Economic and Investment MP Najeeba Najeeb disclosed that the Iraqi government is finalizing the last touches on 2018 national budget. She expected that the draft budget will be sent to the Iraqi parliament by the next month, October, 2017.

MichelleL: good morning!

MichelleL: https://www.equifaxsecurity2017.com/

MichelleL: good morning Doug - you hear about the equifax hacking?

MichelleL: we who are not their customers are still their customers- sucks, you can't protect yourself from something that operates in the background, without your knowledge.

MichelleL: 143mil people with potential info leakage including social security, driver's license, address, etc

BRUCE' S INTEL NOTES , 8 SEPT

BRUCE' S INTEL NOTES :

BRUCE INTEL THU 9/7--EVERYTHING IS READY FOR RV RELEASE EXCHANGE START--EXCHANGES COULD START BEFORE IRMA HITS FL

PRAY THAT HURRICANE IRMA WEAKENS & TURNS AWAY FROM EAST COAST--PRAY FOR HOUSTON AND TX AND LA RECOVERY FROM HARVEY--LET'S KEEP PRAYING FOR PASTOR WOLFY AND FOR EACH OTHER HERE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE ORDEAL OF WAITING, COMING TO AN END NOW ANY MOMENT NOW THAT GOD CHOOSES

​BRUCE INTEL THU 9/7--EVERYTHING IS READY FOR RV RELEASE EXCHANGE START
BRUCE BIG CALL NUMBER FOR CALLS:
LISTEN ONLY: (712) 770-4014
Q&A LINE: (712) 770-4013
PLAYBACK: (712) 770-4016, 123456#

--EXCHANGES COULD START BEFORE IRMA HITS FL

--WE WISH THE RV RELEASE EXCHANGES COULD HAVE HAPPENED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO HELP HOUSTON AND FL--BUT EVERYTHING WAS NOT READY FOR RV RELEASE THEN--BUT EVERYTHING IS READY NOW FOR RV RELEASE

--FL IS A MAJOR CURRENCY HOLDER STATE, THEN TX, THEN GA, THEN CA

--EXCHANGE CENTERS IN SOUTH FL HAVE BEEN GIVEN EVACUATION ORDERS BY GOV RICK SCOTT

--HSBC STARTED EVACUATING SOUTH FLORIDA EXCHANGE CENTERS YESTERDAY WED 9/6

--WE STILL HAVE 68% EXCHANGE CENTER COVERAGE IN FL

--THEY WANT THE ORLANDO EXCHANGE CENTERS TO BE EVACUATED TOMORROW FRI 9/8

--THE PROJECTED PATH OF THE HURRICANE IRMA STORM TOWARD JACKSONVILLE IS A CONCERN TOO

--IT WILL BE DETERMINED TOMORROW FRI 9/8 REGARDING EXCHANGE CENTERS (PRAY AGAINST IRMA!!)

--THE BANKERS IN SOUTH FLORIDA ARE ALREADY EVACUATED

--THE 68% EXCHANGE CENTERS IN FL WILL BE LOWER IF THEY GET EVACUATED TOMORROW FRI 9/8

--COULD THE TIER 4 INTERNET GROUP EXCHANGES START IN SPITE OF FL EVACUATIONS?

--BRUCE IS HEARING THEY MAY SURPRISE US AND START EXCHANGES ANY WAY

--IF THEY DON'T START US THEN, HEARING TO LOOK TO MON-TUE 9/11-12

--THE TX AND LA EXCHANGE CENTERS WERE UP AND ONLINE YESTERDAY WED 9/6

--THE REST OF THE COUNTRY'S EXCHANGE CENTERS ARE LOCKED DOWN AND READY FOR EXCHANGES

--SO HSBC MAY START US WITHOUT FL BEING READY

--WE LOVE FL AND WE PRAY THAT THEY ARE SAFE

--PRAYING THOSE EVACUATING HAD THE PRESENCE OF MIND TO TAKE THEIR CURRENCY WITH THEM, AND THEN EXCHANGE IN ANOTHER STATE

--IRAQ DID EVERYTHING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO PUBLISHING THEIR GOI GAZETTE YESTERDAY WED 9/6

--BUT THEY DID NOT REVEAL THE RV RATE OF THE DINAR
--THE DINAR RATE IS TRADING UP HIGHER, AND WE ARE HEARING THAT IS REASON THE RV RATE WAS NOT PUT IN THE GAZETTE ON WED 9/6

--HEARING THAT ABADI AND/OR SHABIBI IS GOING TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE DINAR RV RATE ON SAT 9/9

--IRAQ IS ALREADY GOING WITH THE LOWER DENOM'S IN THE IRAQI BANK ATM'S AND THE SMART CARDS THAT HAVE THE DINAR RV RATE ON THEM WITH THE RATE MOVING HIGHER AND HIGHER

--THE DINAR RATE WAS TRADED HIGHER TILL THIS AFTERNOON THU 9/7, THEN IT STABILIZED

--23 TOTAL CURRENCIES RATES WERE GOING UP OR DOWN

--HEARING THEY WILL STAY AT THAT RATE TILL EXCHANGES START UNTIL THEY ARE TRADED ON FOREX LATER

--THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF MISINFO PUT OUT ON THE ZIM

--BRUCE INTENDS TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE MISINFO ON THE ZIM

--THE OLD RATES RANGED FROM 3 CENTS TO 18 CENTS

--THERE WAS ALWAYS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THERE WOULD BE ZEROES LOPPED

--WE FOUND OUT FROM ACTUAL PEOPLE WHO EXCHANGED THAT NO ZEROES WERE LOPPED AND THAT THE ZIM IS A GOLD-BACKED BOND NOT A CURRENCY

--CHINA SAW TO IT THAT THE ZIM WAS BACKED BY GOLD AS A BOND

--THE BANKS ARE VERY INTERESTED IN TAKING THE ZIM IN THROUGH THE EXCHANGE

--MENTION THAT YOU HAVE ZIM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 800# CALL THAT YOU MAKE AND THEY WILL DIRECT YOU TO A LOCAL ZIM EXCHANGE CENTER

--THE ZIM HAS GREAT VALUE TO THE BANKS AND TO THE END BUYERS OF THE BANKS, EVEN AFTER HSBC

--THE ZIM RATE IS INCREDIBLE EVEN THE SCREEN RATE, AND IT HAS GONE UP IN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS--WE WON'T NEED THE HIGHER NEGOTIATED RATES WITH THE SCREEN RATE AS HIGH AS IT IS

--WE KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXCHANGED ZIM AND THEY HAVE ASKED FOR A HIGHER NEGOTIATED RATE AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED THE HIGHER RATE AND THEY ARE VERY, VERY WEALTHY NOW WITH JUST A COUPLE OF ZIM NOTES

--SO WE WILL NOT HAVE TROUBLE GETTING GOOD RATES
--WE HAVE HEARD THAT THE EXCHANGE CENTERS WERE TO START BEING USED YESTERDAY WED 9/6, BUT THEY ARE STILL WAITING TO START EXCHANGES

--IT'S POSSIBLE THEY COULD START US NOW OR THAT WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT A DAY OR 2 TO START EXCHANGES

--FOR THOSE EVACUATING FL, THEY CAN STILL CALL THE 800# AND SET AN APPT FOR ANOTHER DATE OR IN ANOTHER CITY

--EVACUEES WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET PRIVATELY NEGOTIATED RATES AFTER EVACUEES GET BACK HOME

--THE PUBLIC WERE TO START 9/15 FRI, NOW 9/20 WED

--WE COULD START EXCHANGES ANY MOMENT, OR EARLY NEXT WEEK

--FROM WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THOSE WHO HAVE EXCHANGED ZIM AND FROM BANKERS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT NO ZEROES WILL BE LOPPED OFF AND THE RATES WILL GIVE ZIM HOLDERS VERY HIGH AMOUNTS OF FUNDS

--AFTER THE INTERNET GROUP GOES, THE RATES WILL GO DOWN

--200,000 FINES & PENALTIES PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE (PUT IN ACCOUNTS)

--CORE GROUPS & GLOBAL SKR'S IN 50,000 ACCOUNTS STILL NEED TO BE PAID

--WE NOT HEARING THEY NEED TO FINISH THESE BEFORE THEY START OUR EXCHANGE

TNT TIDBIT & RESTORED REPUBLIC VIA GCR UPDATE, 8 SEPT



TNT:

PastorJohn:  Hurricane Irma has already struck the Lesser Antilles, the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. Irma, one of the strongest hurricanes ever recorded in the Atlantic Ocean, is now tracking towards Florida and the Southeast coast. We pray for those who have already been hit by this massive hurricane and we stand in the gap for the U.S. and other Islands in Irma’s path. We rebuke Hurricane Irma in Jesus’ name. We speak shalom to the winds, and declare a shift back out to sea.mm

Four2atous:  Fate of the "new" bond note is written on the all= https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/2017/09/05/bond-notes-value-tumbl​es
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Restored Republic via a GCR Update as of Sept. 8 2017

Compiled 12:01 am EDT 8 Sept. 2017 by Judy Byington

Judy Note: The intel for Sept. 7 was conflicting so please use your own discernment:

1. Bruce maintained that we have had a gold-backed US dollar for two weeks, while Yosef claimed Congress had yet to vote on it and wouldn't do so until around Sept. 30.

2. Both Bruce and Yosef claim that the rest of the world has already RV'd and have liquidity in their accounts.

3. Bruce said exchanges in the US have started and the Internet group could begin at any time, although they may wait until next week because of the hurricane situation. Yosef claims the RV is not imminent and won't happen until at least Sept. 29.

4. Both Bruce and Yosef say the currency screen rates are very high and even have gone up in value in the last few days. Yosef claims the Zim is now $3.00+.
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A. Sept. 7 2017 The Big Call, Bruce: Thebigcall.net: 712-770-4016 pin123456#

1. Redemption center personnel in Florida from Tampa south have been given evacuation orders from HSBC. They started yesterday, Sept. 6. Other redemption centers in Florida will know by tomorrow whether or not they will be evacuated.

2. Redemption centers in Texas are up and running.

3. It is still possible that the rest of the US could RV in spite of the hurricane situations and has a good shot at RVing early next week.

4. Iraq has not yet published their new budget in the Gazette, but Dr. Shabbi is supposed to make an announcement about the Dinar on Sat. Sept. 9. They already have a Dinar rate that is continuing to go up and it is seen in bank accounts.

5. There are 23 world currencies including the Zim, Dong and Rial that continued to be traded up in value until 1:30 pm today Sept. 7, then they stabalized. They will stay at that point until they are exchanged and are on the Forex.

6. There has been a lot of misinformation put out about the Zim. The Zim is a gold backed bond and there are no zeros looped off of it. The screen rate on the Zim is very good and has gone up in value in just the last couple of days.

7. They want to get Zim in within a few days.

8. Redemption centers have been told they will start as of Sept. 5. Personnel have been told they will be there exchanging people under negotiable rates until at least Sept. 20.

9. They will cover those who cannot exchange because of the hurricanes.

10. John Q Public is now scheduled to start to exchange Sept. 20. (There will be a reduction in the screen rates by then).

11. There are individuals in the US who have exchanged at decent rates and have their liquidity (money).

12. 200,000 fines and penalties have been paid, plus SKRs. There are several groups of 50,000 or so who still need to be paid worldwide.

13. Money has been moving. A major tranch of money has been utilized for exchanges and another tranch arrived this morning that will be used to cover our exchanges.

14. We have had a gold backed dollar for the last couple of weeks.

15. At least 80% of your Zim exchange must stay at HSBC in a structured payout, while you have immediate access to 20%.

16. Your money that remains at HSBC will earn interest that will be paid to you on a quarterly basis.

17. You do not have to use your money for humanitarian purposes.

18. This could possibly go before Hurricane Irma makes landfall (or not).

19. The screen rates are so good that you do not need to negotiate rates, but you have the right to negotiate for higher rates (providing your humanitarian goals support the higher rates).

20. The screen rates do not require an NDA, the negotiated rates do and the long term payout will have a simple NDA to sign.

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B. Sept. 7 2017 6:00 pm EDT GCR Intel Situation Report: "Option-less" - GCR/RV Intel SITREP - Thursday - September 7, 2017

The Chinese Elders will allow all Federal Reserve Bank USD, US government and US economy responsibilities to collapse on Sept. 30, 2017.

Congress must publicly take the USN through a legal vote or default publicly, because privately the USA, Inc. defaulted back in 2012.

he Senate could vote the USN into law at any time.

Trump would then immediately sign it into law

The Chinese don't care about hurricanes as they relate to creating negotiation leverage. They have also accepted any and all man-made collateral damage incurred. The short-term loss of human life was considered minimal compared to the long-term freedom brought on by a safe asset backed financial system.

The fake Cabal financial system must be surrendered publicly and the illusion of legitimacy eliminated.

There was no alternative to this final result as this was the strategy for the back wall. The Cabal was option-less despite what their psychopathic minions believed.
The rest of the world has moved on. Dozens of countries have already RV'd and their tier 1,2,3 SKRs all been paid out.

The original goal of the NPTB was to gently and subtly bring down the Western World's Cabal's internal structures of power, then quietly replace it with a benevolent leadership team. The public would be none the wiser and everything continued on as normal. That strategy has been abandoned.

Now there's but one way out of the current perceived power position for Cabal leaders before being replaced - the hard way (or public) exposure for crimes against humanity, versus the easy way, (in private).

On Sept. 29th at 23:59:59 EDT, we all would find out what choices have been made by the remaining Cabal minions.

This forced removal time frame was in place to make sure the new gold backed monies hydrated all world economies heading into the 2017 holiday season.

Now the rest of the world was lapping the US diplomatically, and it would take many years to recover. This was a penalty for GESARA non performance.

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C. Sept. 7 2017 9:02 am EDT  Mid-Week Report - The Office of POOFness - 9.7

1. Sept. 6: Funds have arrived in the US so the machinations of the Cabal are being negated.

2. With this release hydration has begun.

3. This info has already spread out and will be all over the place by tomorrow, Sept. 7.

4. I heard this in the morning of Sept. 6 and by the afternoon I had heard if from a number of sources.

5. Although our funds were unrelated to the RV, it did appear that we may benefit from some of this activity.

6. Our little event with the bankers and their shenanigans have completed.

7. All was set to motion for our funds to arrive albeit they were quite late.

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D. Sept. 7 2017 7:19 am EDT GCR Intel Situation Report: RV Not Immanent: "So What" - GCR/RV Intel SITREP - Thursday - September 7, 2017

The RV was not immanent.

The US Congress, specifically the Senate, has yet to vote in our new gold backed USN.
That's the delay. Simple.

Arizona's John McCain's black eye (not brain tumor) and down thumb vote on Obamacare before the August recess alone kept us from our RV as it kept the USN from being ratified into law.

It also kept the entire Senate from receiving their IQD SKR hydrations.

Other countries have RV'd. But not the US because there's still no USN.

The Elders insist America must vote in the new financial system via acceptance of the USN, while the Cabal continued to play out a delay and rebel prime strategy - so the Elders decided to run out the clock come Sept. 30 when no other sovereign country in the world will recognize Federal Reserve Notes past, present or future.

Meaning the USA would be instantly dysfunctional without a recognized usable currency. Which means government shutdown and sovereign default.

That's why the below resignation happened today after a government shut down was supposedly extended 4 months. Because it wasn't.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fed-fischer/feds-fischer-resigns-leaving-trump-earlier-chance-to-shape-central-bank-idUSKCN1BH21R
The Elders are going to let the USA fail period. The Cabal is OK with that strategy - in fact they are making it appear like that's exactly what they want.

The Senate Republicans and Democrats, President and those storms in the Atlantic are beyond dangerous. But so what? There's always going to be danger and collateral damage during periods of great change.

 It's looking more and more like early October.

There seems to be no diplomatic pathway around public arrests, martial law and open coups d'etat by Republic military generals now. The Cabal, US Senate,Trump and Netanhyahu all are at war.

The Elders are at war and why they are playing the long game, wearing down the mountain with patient flowing water.

Come Oct. 1, the US financially cannot function without those USNs. That's the RV moment to watch and hopefully fondly remember.

Could it happen sooner? Sure. Will it? No.

The German elections are scheduled on Sept. 21 and this date tells us that the Chinese will run out the clock on the Cabal. They anticipate no early agreements.

At the final hour you may see the USN get votes in - literally on Saturday Sept. 30, 2017 at 11:59:59.

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E. Sept. 7 2017 10:28 am EDT Trump to host Full Cabinet at Camp David this weekend: President Trump to Host Full Cabinet at Camp David

(CNN) President Trump will host for the weekend all members of his Cabinet at the Camp David retreat in Maryland starting Friday Sept. 8.

KTFA UPDATE, 8 SEPT

KTFA:

Samson: Parliamentary Finance: Iraq's financial opportunities will not be repeated again
 8th September, 2017


A member of the parliamentary finance committee Jabbar al-Abadi said on Friday that Iraq will witness a significant economic improvement in the coming years.

"The economic situation in Iraq will not witness a major improvement or a qualitative leap due to the global economic data and the oil market on which Iraq depends mainly," Abadi said in an interview with the news agency "Economic News" that "the volume of Iraqi debt exceeded 112 billion "This is a disaster by economic standards."

He added that "Iraq earned huge fortunes in previous years when the oil barrel exceeded the barrier of $ 100, but wasted in the projects of fictitious and acquired by the corrupt party of politicians and users," noting that "this opportunity will not be repeated to Iraq in the coming years to continue indicators of low oil prices and will not be able Raising production of more than five million barrels per day during the next two decades. "

He said that "oil licensing rounds have harmed the Iraqi economy a lot despite the raising of the level of production, but doubled the cost, especially the fourth round of these licenses.

http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=8932
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AuthorSamOliver:  IMO....We are in the midst of Monetary Reforms. Although this is not being said in the media. It is clearly a couple of words you will not hear on our soil.

It is not a negative. It is an adjustment of our rates along with other countries doing the same thing right now. It will lend itself to a more equal trade among nations and even boost our economy more than we can know. Our world is in transformation.

It is an economy of spirit taking place through the reformation of what a country brings of value to the world through our assets and not our ability to take advantage of those with less knowledge on our world's economic structure. We are not a country that likes limits placed on us, but this new world seems to have a higher authority dictating our present changes going on.

Think about it. This has the capacity to develop a much kinder world. One which fairness and compassion can truly have a place in our lives.  
 
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JJonesMX:  Hope all are safe In Mexico after huge earthquake/s... 8.1...To my understanding ...

Imo from the 3 large X flare from the sun  we had that pushed  On our Teutonic plates ...
Blessings to you      *JJ*

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Don961:  For the first time in history .. Iraq obtains GMP International Certificate

September 7, 2017

Al-Razi Center for Research and Production of Medical Diagnostic Number of the Industrial Research and Development Authority (R & D), one of the Ministry of Industry and Minerals, announced on Thursday that it has obtained the certificate of good manufacturing practice (GMP) from Vexil Business Process Services, which is granted for the first time in Iraq.

The Director General of the Authority Abdul Ghani Fakhri Al Jafar said that the awarding of this certificate to the Razi Center came as a result of efforts and adherence to international standards for the implementation of quality system, especially the specifications of GMP,which resulted in obtaining the certificate of good manufacturing practice, adding that the center holds the ISO 9001: 2008)) of the company VXL.

He pointed out that the center has the capacity and the possibility of producing more than 50 types of medical diagnostic number according to the approved specifications as it matches the imported product. He pointed out that Al-Razi Center for Research and Production of Medical Diagnostic Number Various processing contracts for the Ministry of Health.     link

RayRen98 “Special” ZIM Training CC (Notes by Sunny) , 8 SEPT

RayRen98 “Special” ZIM Training CC (Notes by Sunny) 
Ray: This call was to explain to you what I received and how I received it. 

Ray: This is a special ZIM training call. First and foremost we’ve been hearing stuff about Zim for quite a few years. Some sounded outlandish to me. This and that, high rates that would make your news bleed, etc. I’ve been quiet as I did not have info coming to me. I report to you. He, said, she said, they said I don’t report. . . when I communicate with a source that’s different. Even the sources don’t always have things 100% . . . generally they are pretty close. Information came to be about the ZIM from one of our commercial sources. 

It weighed heavily on my heart but considered if it is true it will knock some people for a loop. Decided to share on the off chance it might be true and accurate. We are a teaching organization, TNT and open mic. People have title d us TNT University and that’s because people are learning . . . or at least how to benefit or protect ourselves from what is going on. With that thought in mind, if this information, as unfavorable as it sounds, is true I would want to know it before transaction day. You’ve already been making plans, just waiting for transaction day to finalize and then find out your plan crashed and burned before you left the house. 
We decided to share the information in case it is 100% accurate. If it isn’t, no harm, no foul. The most ridiculous thing we can do is deny it and try not to hear it. People in the chat room denying this possible situation, that it does not make sense. Still we should prepare and plan, just like when we tell you there might be a 50% tax. 

If there is no tax you can do something else with it. Everyone accepted that with no qualms. No here came unfavorable information and some of you acted like children. If it turns out to be true you better prepare yourself or suffer the consequences. I first told you last Wed. I said if it holds true your not going to get what you think your going to get out of this deal. . . Next call I went into details and that’s when the “makes no sense” kept coming up. Some of you even posted “BS” in chat. . . .What if it is true? 


If they had taken it into considerations, hmmm I need a plan of action for this. If so I won’t be as devastated as those who have no plan of action. If your not part of the solution, then your part of the problem. Jere ios some unfavorable information and how are we going to deal with it. . . . If it isn’t real we’ve just had a good training session that we might can use in the future so it won’t be a waste if you will. The information so far that I have received, don’t know it to be 100% true and factual, . . . 6 zeros off across the board, trillions, billions, millions. For the trillion note, no big deal. For the million that’s a big deal. You’ve heard 6 off trillions, 3 off millions and zero off millions and some made plans on them. If they took 6 off the million your 500 million just became 500. Whoa, that’s a big deal. 


Wouldn’t you want to know that it might could happen so you could have a plan? Another element was the 80/20 (split) For sometime that was put out their for the sovereign rates. It wasn’t even fully explained. What has come to me is the country of Zimbabwe is pushing all of this through and these are decisions they have made. IF it holds true it’s an 802- deal period. That 80/20 if you present a 100 T. note, 6 zeros come off and that drops it down to 100 million. I’m going to use .10 as an example for this exercise. At 10 cents that 100 million is going to make 10 million dollars. It is my understanding you are going to select a charity of your choice. 


The other 20% is going to be allocated to you. Allocated, not given, paid or distributed. Your going to have the use of that 20% in this example, 2 million dollars. The interest of that 2 million you will receive but you cannot tamper with the 2 million. It is not yours to tramper with . . . IF it goes down this way. The 80% is going to be allocated to a charity – they will not get the principal – they will get the interest. That is the 80/20 I have been able to ascertain so far from the information that has been shared. 


Will continue to get more information to see what may happen or is going to happen. We don’t know yet. The whole purpose is for you to develop plans physically or mentally. . . All this was for is to help you develop a plan, a strategy, for if this holds true. 


Zimbabwe Exchange: 80/20% Split on the old currency, 2008 with the three rocks. This process/procedure has been decided on by the Zimbabwe government. IF it’s true and 100% accurate. 


Principal: is allocated to you at 20% and 80% is allocated to a charity. Neither you nor the charity of choice will ever see the principal. It cannot be touched by you or the charity. 


Interest: The charity receives the interest off of the 80% allocated to them and you personally will receive the interest on 20%. Your 20% can be inherited and passed on at your death. Unknown at this time on what basis the interest will be distributed. Annually, quarterly, etc? 


Taxes: would be paid only on the interest you receive, not on the principal because you will never receive the principal. Banks will be the holders of the principal. Ray did not know which bank(s). 


STRATEGY: Ray: If they say you can only select one charity and you have multiple charities, then the strategy would be to exchange one note and come back another day and exchange another note. Do one per day. (naming a different charity each time you exchange.) 


EXCHANGING: Some of the banks expected to do ZIM exchange. Ray: Should be a bank in your area.


ZIM Q & A -TNT Forum 


-Does the bank actually keep the 80/20? 


Ray: I would assume yes. 


– Can we set up a charity for the 80%? 


Ray: My understanding with the whole charity deal, they will look at what you present as a charity, if they approve it as a viable charity. Don’t go out and create some charities so you can get all the money. If you try to whip up something real quick to get that 80%, if it’s not real true they will probably find out and not allow it. Set up charities for real reasons, for being charitable. 


-Is the 80/20 verified? 


Ray: If it’s verified it would be real. The only way you can verify something is if it actually happens. 


-Negotiate the 80/20 to more like 60/40? 


Ray: No! 


-Taxes on 20%? 


Ray: If it’s taxable you will pay taxes on the 20% earning interest or whatever you receive. 


-When we bought the ZIM we knew it had no value. Whatever it yields doesn’t that belong to us? 


Ray: Sure, you bought the paper it’s yours. Now, I’m Zimbabwe and here’s what I’m going to do. Going to take off 6 zero’s and let you have the interest off of the 20% of whatever it yields and a charity have the interest off of the 80% and do for that 25 years. 


Q & A: Callers 


–Why would Zimbabwe do this? 


Ray: They don’t want to give you all the money and make sure it goes out to good causes. 


– Interest being paid by the banks is very, very low. Any indication of what interest rate will be paid? 


Ray: Not yet. I don’t have that information to share. 


-I’ve spent the last month in Reno talking to people about the Zim. Lot of rumors going around. Is the 80% for a charity the same as a humanitarian project? 


Ray: Probably so, yes. 


-Whether it’s true or not, if the country is saying this I would be more than happy to contribute to the country. We were not supposed to be a part of this process. Whatever we get out of this, let’s be happy. 


Ray: Thank you. 


– Negotiate the sovereign rate? 


Ray: I know nothing about sovereign rates. I just commented on what others have heard in the past. Wished I hadn’t said anything. Again, we don’t know how true this is. The purpose of this call is not to debate what I have, it was for you to understand what I have. This call was to explain to you what I received and how I received it. 


– Just US or worldwide? Ray: I guess world wide. – Why is the paper we’re holding valuable to Zimbabwe? Or info to explain their motivation for doing this in the first place? 


Ray: No, not on this call. 


-Are you hearing 818 per item? It’s a bond. Have you heard it or not? 


Ray: No, I’ve heard nothing like that. They told me there was no bond legislation in effect for that paper your holding. The new Zimbabwe currency is working with bonds and entirely different than what you and I are working with. 


-6 zeroes off the 500 thousand Zim notes? 


Ray: I’ve only heard about the trillions, billions and millions. 


– Can we change the charity later? 


Ray: Did not get that far on the process. 


-You still think they’ve trained all the bank employees on all these nuances? 


Ray: The banks that are going to be participating, yes. . . .to be an affiliate in your area that will be utilized. 


-Can we name more than one charity? 


Ray: If they say you can only select one charity and you have multiple charities, then the strategy would be to exchange one note and come back another day and exchange another note. Do one per day. 


-Banks are going to be making money off the principal while we and the charity only gets the interest? 


Ray: What does it matter? If this is true we won’t see it anyway. 


-If it’s 80/20 won’t the 80% in their bank will that be donated to our charity in our name and can we deduct it at tax time. 


Ray: No, it was not explained that way. If you never received it you can’t take credit for receiving it and claim a tax credit for giving it away. 
Ray’s Closing Statement: The first things I’m going to do after leveraging and exchanging is buy a brand new computer. (chuckle) As I was saying, the purpose of this was to explain why I shared the information and see if we could have some solutions if this becomes a reality how we are going to deal with it. Hopefully this opened your eyes and ears. . . to the possibility if it happens, what am I going to do? For some of you it maybe no change at all. Especially if you diversified. For all of us that hold Zim, if it’s true, will be a big change for all of us. 
So wanted to make you aware if there’s enough time to be thinking on solutions . . . not be blindsided and trying to rush in the spur of the moment. Thank you all for being here.

Bank Story #270 9/8/17

"Information from the UK" by J

Good morning dinarland! 


So I took it upon myself to get in contact with HSBC in the UK and ask about exchanging.

After being put on hold by the lady she came back with the information that they are NOT exchanging Zim, nor are they going to be in the near future as they would have been advised about this. 

Her best advice was to try an airport instead. 

Now I'm really confused as apparently it's only the US who isn't exchanging. 

If anyone else has any information that proves my source to be wrong please inform me as right now I am not feeling so positive about this situation at all.


J