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Friday, August 18, 2017

AMERICAN CONTRACTOR UPDATE, 18 AUGUST

In the country of Yemen, the Central Bank of Aden has made a poor decision to float their exchange rate.   We have dinar experts (I use that term used loosely) in the dinar community that think that the float in Yemen is a great idea.  I can tell you that it is not.  There are numerous groups and organizations that are against floating the currency and are asking others to follow suit and not follow the floating free market exchange rate.  As it stands, there will be banks and ATM machines closing in Yemen, thanks to the corrupt practice of the Saudi supported Central Bank of Aden.

WSOMN CHAT, 18 AUGUST

TED1016: 
Thursday morning and the beat goes on. Still shifting feelings from all the Intel providers with new or recycled Intel provider showing us to get noticed during the last hurrah before the balloon goes up. Good to hear from some of the old voices. We go on with predictions of at any time or anytime next week so we just sit back and watch the parade go by while holding on to our currency.

I understand many of us are getting Text and message with links that will allow us to change our passwords for various sites. Understand people these message are false. The instigators of this option is planning to use your new passwords then enter your sites and immediately change your password again so that you will no longer be able to access the various Internet sites.

Most Gracious and Heavenly Father we ask for assistance to keep these people from doing harm to our members by blocking them out from all of their websites. We have all been made of this but I believe despite all our best efforts to keep everyone notified but realistically we know there will be some who fall through the cracks and become discouraged. Protect our members and those in need.

Dear Lord God Almighty, help us to see pass the ones who are dedicated to discouraging us from believing this event will ever happen in our lifetime. The road to this happening seems cluttered with confusion and distrust, please guide us to the path You have chosen for us to follow. Amen and Amen

Rest well my friends our goal is still within reach and we need to keep our spirts high as we await the coming blessings. Thank you for all the good things that have come along as we travel down this road in the final lap of our trek.



so Okie is jumping back into the thick of things?

LASZLO- DID HIS PLANE LAND YET?

Laszlo....It was always in the plan of the intel people that Okie would be the man to make a certain announcement, since he was primarily the man who let the cat out of the bag in the first place.
I think he should change his name to Job.



 

Did anyone listen to the Okie conference so-called I've only read briefly Recaps but it sure doesn't sound like things he would say it actually sounds a lot like Joseph or Bruce even I mean the writing anyway I don't know about listening to it. Whenever I see so many try and explain Zim as a bond it's a major red flag just saying

Okies connection is Dick Chaney supposedly


 

I RESPECT OKIE, BUT HIS PREDICTIONS HAVEN'T BEEN ANY BETTER THEN THE REST


 

Good morning a quick drive-by as my husband is in the hospital and I need to get there. I tried to listen to the call with Okey last night but the call kept shutting off and said it wasn't available did anyone else have that problem?

The way I took what Okie said was it was to Start, not that we would be in the bank today.... " I have been told that our rv will occur from 6 pm tonight til 9 am in the morning. That will be the *official time it will start*"


 

GOOD MORNING. QUICK DRIVE BY. NEWS IS MAKING ME BELIEVE SOMETHING IS GOING ON FOR SURE BEHIND THE SCENE AS I HAVE BEEN DATING FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS BUT THE END GAME IS STILL SNOWING CERTAIN.

Saying not dating.

Good Morning! Heard Okie on call last night, he really sounded good. I wonder who could be the second from the top to give him intel and it now after 9 am in the east?

Well...it doesn't really matter anymore....once again a smoke & mirrors prediction...the proof is on the puddin!!! We are still not exchanging yet!!! ( sigh!!!) It is not Okie's fault!!! The ptb passed the fake intel to him....he simply passed it on to us!



LIsten, an rv and a ce are 2 separate things. No necessarily one right after the other. After an rv there are still plenty of delaying tricks (err, excuses lol) they can keep pulling out, like the 'ole standard one: " Oh, there was a minor glitch and we need 24-48 hrs to straighten it out".

Remember, the guru who was incarcerated once said the rv occured a couple of years ago (I heard it on his cc), and lot of peeps believed it because of who was saying it.

GM all....if it really did start, some members here are in groups. I know one said he would let us know if he gets called to go in. so again we, WAIT (But hey, it's GREAT to be in the line few even know about!)

If the admiral himself told me it was going to hsppen tomorrow i would not pass it on until im out of the bank, it just hurts too much to be wrong for the hundredth time

See "Few" - well, only about 5 million of us, depending on which guru you choose to believe. Still, a good place nonetheless, I suppose.

ej. If this doesn't pan out fairly quick after last night's prognostigation, okie's judgement may take a hit. But for the time being we'll all give him a pass and wait and see.


 

snickers, I know it's grown even since I got in but I still have NO ONE to look in the eye and share the journey with. Very Thankfully I do have two friends (a couple) I can at least talk on the phone with who are are this journey. The 5 million are in hiding if they are near me.. Ha!

Okie did say it was not a Sure Thing...but did stress he got it from a very good contact. I still want to hear it if someone thinks their source is Very credible like that.

See I know of what you speak. Me too. There are only 2-3 people that I would talk to about this (not including my spouse), but I choose not to. I've put a very tight lid on things.


 

it's process! the fact that Okie got reliable information and he decided to pass it on was great...it's a starting time in which the RV could begin...NOT that you are going to thebank just yet! Also Admin just stated he is hearing that the curtain is starting to snow! Enjoy your day and be happy!

Because of the gift letter thing, I told our son. He thinks I'm a loon now. Wish I had known I could set up at trust for him after, and just pass money over from our trust afterwards. oh well.

I agree with you mangelo. I really think it's started and we are not in a position to see it.....Yet.



 

I see we have three 8's in todays date, if I understand correctly. Aug is 8th month---Day 17 is 1+7=8----year is 2017 (1+7=8 ) #8 is New Beginnings


 

mangelo ... what you said below ... "the curtain is starting to snow??" Hmmmm ....

Hope AB will explain the Snow thing.....typo? or not?....he does live where it snows. We don't use the word snow word down here in the south.


 

I believe it's starting to snow  

I think it may have something to do with a snowball's chance .....

RC: How did you like elmer12345's post about his contact in Iraq! Sweet!


 

drl, that post by Elmer is from July and I believe it was referring to the bonds, not sure, but someone else said it was referring to the bonds.


 

Not so good for the Stock Markets today. Could be a good thing for us,

Trying to figure out which bill to pay or hold off and use what cash is left for food and utilities


 

WHERE DID THIS BENNY GUY COME FROM, NEVER HEARD OF HIM

Says he has been around for 4 yrs

One day a week or so ago he showed up on my YouTube feed

I think most are sick and tired of all the nonsense in Dinarland - nothing left really to say - let it just happen.


 

sand are you in gladiators, if so, benny has been there for awhile.


 

No, never heard of them. I've been in Dinarland less than 2 years


 

From my Cuban friend -- Benny's Spanish report is the same as the one he did about the Zim and the bolivar. He told everyone to be ready.

Sand did u see the benny video on the zim


 

One day he talked about it, IHO he thought it is worthless. He's pro on the other currencies

HEY GKEL AND RC WHAT COLOR DO WANT THE MOD TO BE? SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY MODS ON IT WILL BE YOUR CHOICE

I HAD A FEW GOOD FOLKS THAT COULDN'T SEE WITH WHITE BACKGROUND. RED IT IS AND RED IT WILL BE


 

STILL HEARING POSITIVE INFO BUT I HATE TO BASE EVERYTHING OF MAYBE WHEN...


 

Ted hope you doing ok with the bills

Hanging in there Diva Plan to pay what I can till the money runs out

Snickers, I'm thinking if it doesn't go this weekend, it won't be until after the 21st into next month only.

To think last year at this time I paid double to get the rush service to renew my passport. lol
Snickers, I think of all the time I ordered currency I wasted money on expedited delivery. Crazy......

BARZANI'S REFERENDUM & THE RV by islandg1211, 18 AUGUST

BARZANI'S REFERENDUM & THE RV

It's difficult to see through hype. This referendum on its face is a non-starter:

Turkey has directly stated that they will not support an independent Kurdistan. All Turkey has to do is shut down the pipeline. That's it, game over for Kurdistan. There's no way Turkey will allow an independent Kurdistan, and their president will act.

Iran has directly said that they do not support an independent Kurdistan. Iran's militias are staying in Iraq, and they, combined with Iraq's troops could easily blockade an independent Kurdistan. Iran and Iraq could capture and hold Kirkuk oil fields and pump out the oil East into Iran. Kurdistan would run out of money within a very short time with Kirkuk's oil.

Sadre has said he is not for an independent Kurdistan along with Iran's Shiite leader. Kurdistan would loose support from within their borders from their Shiite population. Even in Kurdistan the religious leaders still hold power.
Abadi has made agreements with Iran and Saudi Arabia to pump out Iraq's oil east and west so it doesn't have to go north through Kurdistan. He's buying oil tankers and the Port of Faw is operational.

Basra is booming. Abadi positioned Iraq to not having to "bend the knee" (yeah, I'm a big Game of Thrones fan) to Erbil because he is developing alternative oil export routes. Abadi had a good offer of splitting Kirkuk's 50/50 one year ago....but, we need a LAW!

The Kurds are completely responsible to come to Baghdad, sign agreements, and get the HCL law passed and settle the contested Article 140 areas.

Abadi isn't going to give Erbil their budget until that is settled. Good for him. Abadi directly said that a vote isn't Constitutional, but he would not send in troops to stop it. Again, good for him for not creating chaos, protests, and Marshall Law that would only alienate the Kurds from Baghdad. Let the voters figure out the reality of their situation on their own.

We are all sympathetic to a the largest group of people without their own country that are stuck between the Sunni and Shiite never ending conflict, that Saddam tried to exterminate. Again, they are our strongest allies. We will keep a base there. But, the reality is that an independent country isn't happening without the support of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria and the US.

Barzani and Abadi are both rational and they will come to an agreement that both knew had to get done right after the defeat of ISIS. Why? Because the reconstruction isn't going to be successful without that security.

Barzani's referendum may play well with his constituents, but it doesn't work for the international investors and oil companies. Look at what's happening the last few weeks, Abadi is getting mega deals and even is going to facilitate Saudi-Iran relations. Who would sign a deal with Barzani when they don't know what country it's going to be or the reaction of Iran and Turkey? It's one thing to drill for oil when the US has your back, it's another thing when they don't.

Barzani is loosing money right now. Baghdad will pay the troops, but not Erbil. Investors would rather invest with Baghdad right now then Erbil. That's a shift and Barzani knows that he can't spend months and months on holding this independence idea over everybody's head. He has to solve it.

IMO Barzani was using the referendum as a negotiating tactic. He floated the idea, and the other countries shot it down. He still gets political points for trying. He may get a better with Baghdad, but I suspect that he isn't going to get another more than last year's 50/50 split on the contested areas in Kirkuk.

In two weeks, ISIS will be declared defeated.

I believe BARZANI WILL REACH AN AGREEMENT ON ARTICLE 140, THE GOI WILL HAVE AN HCL BILL THAT KURDS WILL VOTE FOR, AND THE RV WILL HAPPEN as the referendum gets "postponed" until Turkey and Iran agree to it, which isn't going to happen.

Then reconstruction can truly move forward. Barzani can't keep going with this vote because he's losing business deals from the unstable situation. He will make a settlement.

DAZ UPDATE, 18 AUGUST

Daz:   ITS EASY TO BELIEVE IN JUST THE FACTS

I SUSPECT MUCH OF THE STUFF WE HAVE HEARD FROM ALL OVER THE NET OVER THE YEARS CONTAINS AN ELEMENT OF TRUTH..SOME MORE THAN OTHERS OF COURSE.

I DETERMINED LONG AGO THAT THERE HAVE BEEN VERY FEW DELAYS IN THE PROCESS. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF COURSE CORRECTIONS AND FALSE STARTS...AND THE RV WAS EVEN USED AT TIMES AS A TOOL TO PRY OPEN A FAULT OR WEAK SPOT THAT NEEDED REPAIR OR ARREST.

WITH ALL PROCESSES YOU MUST SET GOALS AND THOSE GOALS ARE MARKERS TO MEASURE PROGRESS TOWARDS A FINAL SUCCESSFUL RESOLUTION.
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SOMETIMES THOSE GOALS ARE HIT...AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE MISSED...BUT EITHER WAY YOU ADAPT, ADJUST AND TRY TO NAVIGATE A NEW OR MORE SUCCESSFUL PATH TO THE END OF IT...ULTIMATELY, IT IS JUST A PROCESS.

I ALWAYS GO BACK TO A SINGLE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT IN PART, SHOWS CLEARLY A FEW SIMPLE FACTS. AND FOR ME, ITS THE FOUNDATION OF MY CONFIDENCE AND TRUST.

WITH THAT SAID, LETS LOOK AT WHAT WE "KNOW".

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IRAQ HAS ALWAYS BEEN A WEALTHY, RICH CULTURE WITH A STRONG HERITAGE AND SIGNIFICANT HISTORY.

IRAQ ALWAYS HAD AMPLE RESOURCES AND A STRONG ECONOMY... IN ITS OWN RIGHT.

THEIR MONEY ALWAYS HAD VALUE, HISTORICALLY AND CONSISTENTLY.

DUE TO PRESSURES TO ENACT A LIBERATION OF IRAQ AND EFFECT A REGIME CHANGE...A COALITION OF NATIONS "TURNED OFF THE MONEY (DINAR)" AS PART OF A WAR EFFORT AND STRATEGIC ASSAULT TO DEBASE THE FINANCES OF REVOLT, RESISTANCE AND INSURGENCY AGAINST THAT CHANGE IN 2004.

THERE WAS, AND STILL IS, A PLAN TO GIVE REBIRTH AND REVITALIZE THAT ECONOMY, INFLUENCE THAT CULTURE AND, EVENTUALLY EMBRACE IRAQ, ITS PEOPLE AND THEIR WEALTH AND TRADE INTO THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC FOLD.

AND, WHEN A SATISFACTORY CONDITION AND ALIGNMENT OF ALL THE VARIOUS INTERESTS AND POWER STRUCTURES INVOLVED HAVE REACHED A POINT OF REASONABLE SATISFACTION THAT THEIR INTERESTS AND GOALS ARE MET...  THEY WILL JUST AS SIMPLY.... "TURN THE MONEY BACK ON".

IT WILL ALL COME TOGETHER WITH A PUBLIC RELEASE AND PERMISSION FOR ALL OF US TO EXCHANGE IN ANY MANNER WE WANT, ALMOST ANYWHERE WE WANT...AND IT WILL BE A SAFE, ORGANIZED, ULTIMATELY FAIR AND REASONABLY SIMPLE BUSINESS TRANSACTION.

HANG IN THERE BUT...KEEP LIVIN'.

WE'RE READY WHEN THEY'RE READY.

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/exportal.aspx?memberKey1=460&date1key=2016-07-31&category=EXCHRT

Dinar Updates w/BGG & Callers

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 18 AUGUST

8-18-2017   Intel Gurus Delta  & Frank26   VERY INTERESTING TODAY VIETNAM DONG DID OPEN TODAY [WEDNESDAY] AT  $0.0044  AND THATS ABOUT $4400 FOR A MILLION DONG.    They need more flexibility for the exchange rate.  22,000 to the dollar does not make any sense. They are under exceptional status with the IMF. They dropped 2 zeros from their exchange rate at the beginning of yesterday [Tuesday].  The msn live feed gave that rate.  It was not a glitch. They might (eventually)  come up to 4 or 5 cents. I-Teams were encouraged about the dong.

8-18-2017   Newshound Guru Aggiedad77
   Article:  "ABADI TO OUST CORRUPTION PARTIES AFTER LIBERATING IRAQ FROM ISIS"   Abadi is on a roll...his long push for elimination of corruption within Iraq was a bit sidetracked by ISIS but is steamrolling now...get ready for some very GREAT and POSITIVE changes to happen within Iraq...he's putting his country on the map as a new financial mecca...he will right the wrongs of the past within Iraq... watch for it...wait for it...it's coming. 
Get caught up on last night's updates below and if you are not a dinarguru.com alert list yet now is a great time to do it...It's free as always and only takes a sec sec...If you invested in the dinar and spend time on the site you don't want to miss something very important because you're not on the list.  Click here to get on the list now.
8-17-2017   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23   Article quote:  "Erbil is ready to postpone the referendum on the independence of Iraq’s Kurdish Autonomous Region if Iraq's central government fulfills a number of conditions, Iraqi media outlets write Aug. 17."    IF IT IS CANCELLED...THERE IS ONE ******* OF A DEAL MADE...AND IT WILL HAVE TO SHOW BEFORE THE 25TH...I just cant' figure Barzani's date of 9/25 for the vote...and then Nov 1 Kurd will hold another election for President etc...Why not place it all on the ballot at the same time Nov 1...This 9/25 date is weird and I suspect Barzani is holding not just Baghdad but other entities feet to the fire.

8-17-2017   Newshound Guru chattels   Kurdistan runs their own provincial elections.  Baghdad sets elections for the Iraqi Parliament and provincial councils. Federal offices.  Kurdistan has it's own Parliament, President and Prime Minister.
  Somewhat analogous to Federal and State government in the USA.  Arguments between the Federal Government in Baghdad and the Regional government in Kurdistan center upon constitutional conflicts and interpretation not unlike here.

8-17-2017   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23   It has been reported that the coalition will begin construction at the start of 2018...It is also when I suspect they will lift the 3 zeros at the start of they year, and by their words, this is when the fiscal year begins with banks and is the appropriate time for accounting purposes... Add those 2 scenarios together...Then possibly as they did back on October 15 2003 they released the new Iraqi dinar...logical to think this could be repeated with the "new lower denoms"...Then take it to the first of the year where they lift the 3 zeros...But the lower denoms would need a rate or be worthless...so it's a brain teaser!

8-17-2017   Intel Guru ADMINBILL   NEWS IS MAKING ME BELIEVE SOMETHING IS GOING ON FOR SURE BEHIND THE SCENE AS I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS BUT THE END GAME IS STILL SNOWING CERTAIN.

8-17-2017   Newshound Guru Adam Montana    [Has the CBI issued any holidays before or is this upcoming weekend the first time they have done so? A few of us were wondering if there wasn't something going on behind the scenes when it comes to it.]  The CBI issuing a holiday announcement is certainly intriguing. I can't tell you for certain if it's the first time, but... certainly intriguing, indeed.  

8-17-2017  Intel/Newshound Guru American Contractor  In the country of Yemen, the Central Bank of Aden has made a poor decision to float their exchange rate.   We have dinar experts (I use that term used loosely) in the dinar community that think that the float in Yemen is a great idea.  I can tell you that it is not.  There are numerous groups and organizations that are against floating the currency and are asking others to follow suit and not follow the floating free market exchange rate.  As it stands, there will be banks and ATM machines closing in Yemen, thanks to the corrupt practice of the Saudi supported Central Bank of Aden.

8-16-2017   Intel Guru Frank26   [...is the main event going to be down to any one event or a collection of the events at the same time?]  NOT ''ONE'' THING IS THE MR [MONETARY REFORM]...THERE ARE A CONVERSION OF EVENTS THAT R HAPPENING NOW...AND RATHER QUICKLY...WHICH IS VERY IMPRESSIVE FOR THE ME.  THE KEY...NOW IS...ART 140.  WHY...BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE US THE BUDGET AND HCL...ALSO...THE INTERNATIONAL ACTIVITY RT NOW IS BRING US ART 8...BECAUSE THE INVESTORS ARE PUSHING IT ALONG WITH...THE WTO ...WHICH IS ALSO THE SAME AS SAYING THE USA...

8-17-2017  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man  [Long time no see...glad you are feeling better!]     Hello America,  ships at sea and all our world wide friends…I’m very pleased to be here…It’s been quite a ride for all of us…If we were cowboys we would all have saddle sores. Prayerfully, things have finally come to where we can have something to look forward to…I have some information tonight I wish to furnish from second from the top individual…and I am only furnishing the information I receive… I do not guarantee it’s contents but I’ll share with you what I’ve been told.  I have been told that our rv will occur from 6 pm tonight [Wednesday] til 9 am in the morning. That will be the official time it will start...it  comes from a very good source.  I can’t guarantee anything but it sounds wonderful to me...

8-17-2017   Newshound Guru mike   Article:  "The government and the central bank repacking world confidence of the Iraqi economy IF Iraq does what the IMF has advised them, the reserves will go up. Things like enforcing tariff's, reducing government payroll/expenses and diversifying the economy, all of which will reduce the need for the CBI to prop up the Iraqi economy and cause a loss of the reserves.

Contractors Get Paid

KTFA UPDATE, 18 AUGUST

Aggiedad77:  Abadi is on a roll.....his long push for elimination of corruption within Iraq was a bit sidetracked by ISIS but is steamrolling now.....get ready for some very GREAT and POSITIVE changes to happen within Iraq.....he's putting his country on the map as a new financial mecca.....he will right the wrongs of the past within Iraq....watch for it....wait for it....it's coming.   Aloha    Randy

JJonesmx:  ABADI TO OUST CORRUPTION PARTIES AFTER LIBERATING IRAQ FROM ISIS - MP

8/17/2017 4:08:11 PM

Iraqi PM Haider Al-Abadi has prepared a campaign to oust several corruption networks, managed by many parties, after liberating Iraq from ISIS, Noura al-Bajari, a member of the Parliamentary Economic and Investment Commission, said Thursday.
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​The campaign will bring influential figures at the government before the court on charges of corruption, she added.

She stressed that an international audit company played an important role in revealing the corruption of several governors.

Iraq seeks to reduce the corruption rates which made it ranked in ten most corrupt countries in the world during the past few years, she said.

Bajari confirmed that without tackling the corruption, Iraq will not get loans or Arab and global grants to rebuild the affected areas after ISIS heinous attacks.

On January 2015, the governmental experts committee confirmed that international audit company revealed the manipulation with public money by several ministries of the Kurdistan and Baghdad governments.

http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/story/15815/Abadi-to-oust-corruption-parties-after-liberating-Iraq-from-ISIS-MP

Frank26:  TA DA FREAKEN DA !!!

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Don961:  What Jackson Hole meetings caused market volatility?

The annual Jackson Hole Symposium will be held this year from August 24 to 26

 17 August 2017 05:55 PM

From: Noha Al - Nahhas

Mubasher: The Jackson Hole annual meeting, where world economic leaders meet, meets central bankers and finance ministers from around the world at the end of the month.

As investors become accustomed to the announcement of strong statements by officials during these meetings, which have a significant impact on the markets, the importance of the events of the meeting comes from year to year.

What are the Jackson Hole meetings?

In 1978, the US Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas held the annual Economic Policy Seminar, which focused on issues that are not of direct interest in the current period, but looks at emerging issues and trends.

Since 1981, the meeting has been held at Jackson Hole, attended by all the heads of central banks, finance ministers and market analysts from around the world.

The Jackson Hole annual seminar focuses on important economic issues facing the United States and global economies.

The proceedings of the seminar are closely followed by investors, as the comments and observations of officials will affect the market conditions.

The papers presented at the meeting are to be presented to the Bank and published by the Bank on its website at the time of submission. Other papers, such as participants' comments, may only be submitted after the event ends, but will be published upon availability.

However, a very limited number of journalists are selected to cover the event, and all participants, including members of the press, pay a fee to attend.

When will the world's bankers meet and what will they discuss?

The Jackson Hole Annual Symposium will be held this year from August 24 to 26, under the theme "Promoting a dynamic global economy". The list of speakers will not be published until shortly before the meeting.

Speculation about the issues to be discussed within the conference on the ECB and its forthcoming policy, especially since the meeting will be held ahead of the monetary policy meeting within the European Central Bank in September.

The European Central Bank announced in 2014 that it will begin a program to buy bonds in the euro area, under the so-called "quantitative easing", to stimulate economic growth and employment.

Expectations have indicated that the central bank will announce a reduction in its bond holdings at the September meeting.

But after news reports that the ECB president will not give any new monetary policy messages and that he will focus on the theme of the conference, which is concerned with the performance of the global economy, the fate of the thorny issues to be discussed is not known.
Mario Draghi said in June that the bank's stimulus policies were working well and would end gradually as the economy accelerated.

The comments contributed to a strong rise in the value of the euro, to come out of statements from the European Central after that misunderstanding of those statements.
How are markets affected by the meeting?

Jackson Hole was sometimes used to announce monetary policy plans in some central banks.

In 2010, the Federal Reserve Chairman announced his plan to adopt a monetary easing policy at the time of the global financial crisis. Among the 5,000 speeches made by Ben Bernanke, there were 2,000 words on more options for easing monetary policy.

His remarks caused stock market volatility as the Standard & Poor's index fell, but at the same time Bernanke's comments on more bond buying helped boost investor appetite for risk. All three major indexes in the US recorded a record high in the US, Month of meeting.

At the 2014 meetings, when Draghi spoke of the ECB's intention to dump markets in the quantitative easing program, US and German bond yields rose by 20 to 30 points in the weeks following the statements, and then resumed sharply as a result of the asset purchase program .

https://www.mubasher.info/news/3149788/link

IQD CHAT UPDATE, 18 AUGUST

Chat Room News Excerpts & Highlights Late Thurs  8-17-17

BobS: BAGHDAD,— An Iraqi court has ruled on Thursday to cancel a decision by Kirkuk Provincial Council that voted to raise the Kurdish flag used by Iraqi Kurdistan Region alongside the Iraqi one. Kurdish officials say they will appeal. Kirkuk council members voted overwhelmingly on March 28 in favor of raising the Kurdistan flag over official buildings during a meeting boycotted by Turkmen and Arabs.

The controversial raising of the Kurdish flag was strongly opposed by the Iraqi government, neighboring countries , notably Turkey and Iran as well as Turkmen and Arab parties in Kirkuk and stirred up heated debates among Kurds, Arabs, and Turkmen in Iraq.
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​The United Nations has also warned that the decision to fly the Kurdish flag over the citadel in Kirkuk could inflame tensions. The ruling from the Iraqi Administrative Court comes after several members of the Iraqi Turkmen Front earlier filed a complained regarding the vote by the Kirkuk Council in March. It states that the acting head of Kirkuk Council, Rebwar Talabani, should cover all the expenses regarding the court case.

BobS: Hasan Turan, a member of the Iraqi parliament from the Turkmen Front, told reporters Thursday in Baghdad that the local government in Kirkuk should respect the ruling and take down the Kurdistan flag. Mohammed Kamal, member of the Kurdish-led Brotherhood faction of the Kirkuk Council, said that they will appeal the ruling.

He said that they think the flag raising issue is “political,” as opposed to legal since there is no section in the Iraqi constitution that prevents the authorities in Kirkuk to raise the Kurdish flag. Member of Kirkuk Provincial Council, Jwan Hassan, told NRT on Thursday that Baghdad Administrative Court has put an end to the case in favor of Turkmen front.

“Baghdad administrative court has decided against raising Kurdistan flag following four trials,” Hassan added. Ashwaq Jaf, a Kurdish member of the Iraqi parliament, said they consider Turan’s remarks as “language of threats” which are not acceptable. She too said that they will appeal the ruling believing that the decision is not sound, nor legal.

BobS: Kamal, from the Kirkuk Council, claimed that the judges who made the ruling “are Arabs” and therefore he questioned their authority to rule over the issue. Though the Iraqi Parliament voted against the decision to raise the Kurdish flag in Kirkuk on April 1, Governor Najmaldin Kareem and head of Kirkuk Provincial Council refused to take down the flag.

Kirkuk Provincial Council added that Article 115 in the Iraqi Constitution entitles the Kirkuk Governorate to “make decisions on things which do not fall within the authority of the federal government.” The oil rich Kirkuk city in Iraq’s north is claimed by both Iraq’s central government and the country’s Kurdish region.

The Kurds are seeking to integrate Kirkuk province into the semi-autonomous Kurdistan Region claiming it to be historically a Kurdish city, but Iraq’s central government opposes this. The population is a mix of Kurds, Arabs, Christians and Turkmen. The Arabs and Turkmen do not want to see the province under permanent Kurdish control.

Kurdish forces take full control of Kirkuk after the Islamic State insurgency in Iraq in 2014 and the withdrawal of Iraqi army form the province and some other northern region of the state, including second-biggest city of Mosul.

BobS: BAGHDAD,— The Kurdish referendum delegation in Baghdad has taken a softer line when they met with Iraq’s ruling Shiite National Alliance on Wednesday, saying they are prepared to delay the referendum on independence “for a short time” if Baghdad, under the auspices of the international community, promises to set another date for the referendum, a member of the delegation told pro-KDP Rudaw media.

Kurdistan has so far refused to postpone the referendum, despite calls from Baghdad, and its neighbours such as Turkey and Iran. It even turned down such a request from the US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson when he made a phone call with the Massoud Barzani earlier this month.

The source who asked not to be named told Rudaw that there is “a small chance” that the Kurdistan Region would agree to postpone the referendum until after the Iraqi elections if Baghdad gives guarantees to give the go ahead for the referendum at a later date. The guarantee should come “in writing” and be observed by the United Nations and the United States, the source explained.

BobS: The delegation is expected to meet once again this weekend with the National Alliance and resume negotiations. Each side is preparing their stances between now and the meeting later this week, the source said, adding that Baghdad should also agree to implement a number of articles of the Iraqi constitution that the Kurdistan Region say have been violated by Baghdad, chief among them Article 140, and the budget cut. Iraqi prime minister Abadi, the powerful Iraqi vice president Nuri al-Maliki, and Iraq’s parliament speaker, among others, said that any step taken by the Kurdistan Region, including the referendum, should have a constitutional backing.

Baghdad calls the referendum unconstitutional, unilateral and it does not recognize the results. The Kurdistan Region’s political parties, not including Gorran Movement and the Kurdistan Islamic Group (KIG), came to an agreement on June 7 to hold a referendum on the region’s independence on September 25, 2017. The decision was slammed by Iraq, US, UK, EU, Russia, Germany, Turkey and Iran.

Analysts have little doubt that the September 25 referendum would result in a ‘Yes’ for an independent Kurdish state in northern Iraq. But the result would be non binding and leave the approximately five million Kurds of Iraqi Kurdistan some way away from actual independence.
Sergio: Hello Bob
BobS: Hey Sergio, how have you been? I have been very very bad on not posting articles.

BobS: I got burned out. Nothing but the same crap that has been out there for years, just different verbage.
BobS: I am reading this article and it is somewhat long, but I think most "believers" need to read this.

BobS: Capitals / agencies waiting for investors statement companies on the results of its separation to another, especially with regard to major institutions that shareholders are looking for advertising profits and distribution, while targeting some companies working principle "Search for maximizing the value created" more than interest to make profit in the current period , preferring to focus on future growth.

High losses and highlights several major US companies recorded strong quarterly losses, but it raises the degree of future investments in search of growth. Strong losses achieved by the company "Tesla" , although it is the largest US car company in terms of market value.

The company does not even bother to cut its losses, which revealed the results of its high these losses by about 40 percent during the second quarter of this year at 401.42 million dollars. Despite the failure of "Tesla" in terms of profits, it is on the level of income has grown by about 120 percent during the three months ended last June to $ 2.78 billion.

 It seems that the American company is looking for the future even more than the present, they establish factories will come out to light after a period of time and huge costs, as they are interested in investments in its field , and the president is spending billions of dollars to finance their aspirations on their industry.

BobS: Last month , the company decided to build the largest plant in the world to produce a "lithium - ion" batteries for energy storage, in South Australia, and within 100 days. He said , "Elon Musk", head of the "Tesla" project: "You can charge the battery primarily when you have excess capacity and very low cost of production, and then discharged when the cost of energy production is high , " noting that this will reduce effectively the average cost of the final customer .

The company is also working to develop its cars industry and doing all her efforts to provide Alazm funding, it is during the month of July car model "Tesla 3" launched, and since released received "Tesla" 1800 request per day.

After that successful American company decided to put up $ 1.5 billion in bonds, to strengthen its balance sheet, and for general purposes of the company. As always shows the head of the company 's expectations about the future, where he said that the robots will depend upon "to do everything better than humans in the future."

The market capitalization of the largest US automaker 60.28 billion, and since the beginning of the year rose "Tesla" 70.3 percent. Look at the future of sustained company "Ober" a loss of $ 708 million during the first quarter of this year.

BobS: Look at the future of sustained company "Ober" a loss of $ 708 million during the first quarter of this year. The company also recorded only Mirkah working in the field of transport technology losses by about $ 2.8 billion in 2016.

However , the company is going to add more developed procedures, where it plans to issue its own credit cards through the bank "Barclays". It seeks to improve its relationship with its employees last month declared that it would allow drivers to obtain "gratuity" or gratuity, as it identified the United Kingdom as a country receives their drivers "tipping", to improve more than 50 thousand drivers conditions Britain.

Losses "upper", administrative problems did not prevent because of the multiple of officials resignations within the company to make investment projects, as its Board of Directors voted to approve the commencement of proceedings on the presentation of the purchase of "Softbank" for their shares, as the company agreed to the alliance itself and submitted by the "Dragonair Group Investment Group ".

Whitelions: Washington stopped military aid to Peshmerga because of the insistence of the Kurds on the referendum

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The United States stopped all military assistance to the Peshmerga forces in the Kurdistan region because of the insistence of the Kurdish side to organize the popular referendum. In the policy of August 16, 2017 Comments on Washington stopped military aid to the Peshmerga because of the insistence of the Kurds on the referendum closed 29 visits

The United States stopped all military assistance to the Peshmerga forces in the Kurdistan region because of the insistence of the Kurdish side to organize the popular referendum. Kurdish media quoted US sources as saying that Washington stopped all logistical and military assistance to the Peshmerga forces in the Kurdistan region because of the intransigence of the Kurdish leadership and its insistence on conducting a popular referendum for self-determination on the twenty-fifth of next month, and US sources indicated that it reaffirms its position and support for the unity of Iraq And rejected the Kurds' efforts to hold a referendum on separation.

Whitelions: gm all have a blessed day ttyl

chattels: good morning all
chattels: the end of another week in dinarland
Doug_W: yes indeedy

chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – The governor of Kirkuk has said in very clear terms that the independence referendum that will be conducted by the Kurdistan Region this September will not determine the future of the disputed areas as defined by Article 140 of the Iraqi constitution.

 President Masoud Barzani and Kurdistan’s top diplomat Falah Mustafa had each earlier hinted at a second referendum in these areas, called Kurdistani by Erbil but claimed by both Erbil and Baghdad.

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/180820172

chattels: ............. with regard to Kirkuk in particular, we are committed by Article 140. Our Provincial Council sent a letter to Baghdad in June, after the [Kurdistan] flag was raised, calling for Article 140 to be implemented so that the referendum is held,” Karim continued.

chattels: " Article 140 to be implemented " ......................... Again, nothing needs to be " passed " regarding Article 140. It is part of their Constitution.

chattels: Article 140 concerns the disputed areas. It stipulated Baghdad to take a series of steps to reverse the process of Arabization in Kirkuk and other places such in in Nineveh practicedby the former Iraqi regime, and eventually hold a referendum that gives the people in these areas the option on whether they want to be part of Kurdistan region or remain with Baghdad. Article 140 passed its 2007 deadline without being implemented.

chattels: Some of the Arabs argue that because Article 140 was not implemented that it is " dead " or expired.

chattels: How can the Arabs resist implementation contrary to the Constitution and then argue that it is expired ? What logic is there in such ?

chattels: Kirkuk Governor Najmaldin Karim, who has just returned from a visit to the United States, told Rudaw on Wednesday that the United States wants the referendum to be postponed because they think if the Kurdistan Region takes part in the Iraqi general elections next year, it will increase the chances of Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi winning a second term in office. He said the United States believes with Abadi in power, Iran would have less influence in the country.

chattels: The US is concerned about Iranian hegemony in the area. There appears to be little concern for the right or wrong of the Kurdish cause.

DinarResearcher: Good morning fellow Dinar Investors . I am gonna jump in then jump out of here . I am on a tight schedule this morning...This is from the CBI I would like to share with you all.

chattels: In May, the Director of the US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) expressed to US senators during a hearing that the question of independence is inevitable. "Kurdish independence is on a trajectory where it is probably not if but when. And it will complicate the situation unless there's an agreement in Baghdad," Lt. Gen. Vincent Stewart, whose job is to provide intelligence assessments said.

DinarResearcher: The mechanism of selling the auction forms and the electronic sukuk books

DinarResearcher: The Central Bank of Iraq announces a new mechanism for selling forms to subscribe to a sale window.
DinarResearcher: read more
DinarResearcher: August 17, 2017

chattels: @DinarResearcher Gm. Go ahead.

DinarResearcher: good greeting . . A mechanism has been put in place to sell subscription contracts in the foreign currency window and electronic sukuk books as follows: -

Procedures for selling subscription forms in the window and electronic certificates for banks.

The bank submits a letter to the accounting department stating the number of books of the forms or sukuk books to be purchased from the bank for validity,

And the approval of the deduction of the amount of the forms from his current account by JD (ten thousand dinars) per thousand (626 thousand books of auction forms) and JD (six hundred and sixty dinars) for each electronic book, where the Division of Administrative Revenue and Security The transfer of the above amounts through the payment system (RTGS) 2 - Procedures to sell the forms to the financial transfer companies

The transfer company financial book to the bank to remember the number of books of subscription forms to be purchased from the bank with the name of the authorized recipient to submit a book from the open bank

The account has the right to deduct the amount from his account with the number of its account in the bank concerned for the purpose of deducting the amount from the account by following the bank (1) JD for each book forms, and the Division of Administrative Revenues and secretariats with deduction procedures in paragraph (1) above.

Please take what you need with my appreciation.

DinarResearcher: https://cbi.iq/news/view/372

DinarResearcher: Have a Good day folks
chattels: @DinarResearcher ty ​
​chattels: Thursday, August 17, 2017 Troubles Of The Tribal And Local Hashd In Anbar And Ninewa

chattels: The Iraqi government went on the offensive against the Islamic State without making any political or security plans for the future. That has led to this hodgepodge of tribal and local Hashd units in Anbar and Ninewa.

Obviously, some type of holding force was necessary after IS was expelled, but since then there has been no strategy for what to do with them. No overarching system has been put in place to bring the various units under any type of unified command or even get them to cooperate with each other or the Iraqi forces in many cases.

The revenge killings that took place in Ninewa after the liberation of Mosul may also undermine security in the long run. The political and economic desires of the leaders of these groups also means they want to turn their armed forces into power and money.

That has led to low level criminality, and could lead to corruption if they get reconstruction contracts. Needless to say Baghdad’s failure to think long-term has led to this situation, and there appears no attempt to resolve it either.

chattels: http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2017/08/troubles-of-tribal-and-local-hashd-in.html

chattels: Iraq acknowledges abuses committed against civilians in Mosul campaign

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-rights-idUSKCN1AX23W

THE BIG CALL NOTES, 18 AUGUST

THE BIG CALL WITH BRUCE THURSDAY, AUGUST 17, 2017, INTEL ONLY
TRANSCRIBED BY PINKROSES
 
Bruce:  Thank you all for tuning in to the Big Call tonight. Here is where we are right now. Let’s start with Iraq. Starting Tuesday they had open borders with Saudi Arabia. Exchange of goods and services was going on. That started Tuesday. For that to occur guess what has to happen. That is right. You have to have an international recognized rate on your currency.  They do and they did.  That is a very positive thing.  Is it something we can see at this minute? I would say no, but they have it behind the scenes.  They do know about it and can do it.

Bruce:  Let’s cut to today. Iraq has a 3 day holiday that started today.  It is an unscheduled holiday that goes from today, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.  It is a holiday, a celebration for Iraq. What are they celebrating?  I wonder. Let me say this.  In Iraq today over 28,000 ATMs came on board and were turned on and were utilized in the country of Iraq.  The balance of the ATMS in the country, the remaining number are going to be up and working by noon on Sunday, Iraq time.  Those ATM machines came up at 2:30am EST daylight time or 9:30am Iraqi time. 


Bruce:  We believe the rates that are there I am finding out through various friends that are there in the country of Iraq, these rates have been populating for days on the back screens of Forex.  They have been traded up.  All the rates including  the ZIM were halted couple of days ago because they went as high as they wanted them to be. I don’t know what the dinar rate is right now. People who have the Qi cards, their rate is solid.  What is not solid is the word activation. It is flashing.  When that solidifies, boom we have an active rate people can use those Qi cards. The new ones are global master cards with two chips in them which are used as both as a credit and debit cards. All the old Qi cards that were debit cards only are being done away with.

Bruce:  Today in Iraq earlier all of the contractors in Iraq were paid and compensated of their current pay and also their back pay at the new rate. You guys remember I talked about what Dr Shabbi said at the Chamber Commerce Meeting in Washington DC in 2012?  He talked about  the dinar being able to support $16.  The rate I am hearing is about slightly higher than that. That is the rate that is solid on the cards right now. Is that the actual starting rate that would be here when this comes thru for us?  I don’t know. I just know the contractors were paid today at the new rate, and ATMS with the lower denoms came out today. That is 28,000 activated.  Also trading with Saudi Arabia, and I think just not just with them but other border countries.  

Bruce:  Let look at one more thing.  The official record the newspaper that Iraq published is published on Wednesdays and Saturdays.  We believe the new rate was not public in yesterday’s copy, but have every reason to believe it will make it into Saturday’s copy.  That is what I am looking for to happen. When does that newspaper come out?  It comes out at 7:30am Iraqi time, 12:30am EST on Saturday. Only a suggestion it may come out on Saturday. Iraq is ready to rock- n-roll.

Bruce:  Let s move back to this country.  There was a back log of people that were ready for exchanges to take place out west. Quite a large back log.  Many of those, like 19,000, were handled in 14 different banks and cities since last night. That backlog is greatly reduced out west and things are moving along orderly at a good pace right now. I can’t tell you when liquidity be there for everybody for all who have exchanged in Tiers 1, 2, and 3. Core groups are completed. People are exchanged that went before us.

Bruce:  Major things have happen today. I understand that AIIB and HSBC have communicated where they are ready to go. Even China is asking our Treasury to move forward.  I think we are in a really good place to receive now. Without getting too far in depth, I believe we should have, from what I am understanding now, should be in good shape between tonight and Sunday night.  That is the window I am hearing.  It may not go until Sundaynight, but here in between now and Sunday is looking good for Tier 4 group. The John Q Public who is not paying attention, those people suppose to start around the September 5 or 6, a day or so after Labor Day.

I would think Tuesday or Wednesday John Q Public should start.  We should be in and out before that happens. That is my understanding.  I hope that stays on track as I am hearing it has been. Things are moving and happening and great timing.

Bruce:  I am excited because I am believing this is our last call until we take a hiatus and set up our new website approximately a month or so. Stay tune to the Big Call website: thebigcall.net.   For any further changes for new information about future calls. We plan to do future calls in the form of pod cast because we want to bring concept of Rebuild America, and the Veteran Retreat Network,  

Bruce:  I want everybody to enjoy their exchange. Don’t be in too big of a hurry to do projects. Pay debts off, and pay or tithe ministry.  Do that to get that started but realize these projects are not like boom I will start the projectMonday.  It takes s planning research and time.  I am asking all who want to, if you want to be part of the Big Call moving forward, stay tune when we get the website up and be part of Rebuild America. I have it in my mind how I want to put it together on the new web site. I talked to my team about it and bring all to you so you can be part of that. I want to do it together with your help as a big team.

Bruce:  Working in with inner city, so much is needed to be done all over the country.  Community gardens, new building infrastructure, and homes. We might just build new homes for veterans in some of these cities like Habitat for Humanity situation, something similar to that. Involve major marketers, like Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, and other stores. We are going to try to partners with them corporately, and others like Kohler and other main brands to do fixtures and various things what is involved in housing. 

Bruce:  We want to Rebuild America one family at a time, adopt a city, town, community.
Keep it in mind as a project you can be part of in your area of your country.  Maybe they need a new building attached to the school, health clinic, or new recreation centers.  We will have the funding available to crank it out in the United States, and also in other countries of Latin America, Mexico, Central America, South America, Caribbean, Haiti, Dominican Republic.  

I am excited and looking forward to getting started. We are ready to get started.

Bruce:  Thank everybody for listening in again and hopefully this will be our last official Big Call before the blessing. If we get this blessing in the time frame I think, we will put out a short celebration recording. I do plan to get the toll free number and put it on our site and a few places online after it goes on my website. Looking forward to release that.

Bruce:  Everybody have a great night and you are in a great place for this to go down.  We are about to see historical things to go for us. Solar eclipse to take place on Monday afternoon. Don’t look at it without the proper filters. It is a major event. A lot of cosmic events are taking place that never happened ever in history as far as we know and will never happen again.

Bruce:  Stay in faith.  Stay pumped and positive as we are. We will come together to let this thing go through. We will have this time between tonight and Sunday night. I can’t call it.

Thank you all for coming in and all out there at the Redemption Centers who are listening.  I am looking forward get the number and coming in for our exchanges. Thank you for being patient as we have been.  Good night everybody on the Big Call.
 
THANK YOU BIG CALL AND BRUCE, HUGSSS