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Wednesday, August 16, 2017

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 16 AUGUST

8-16-2017   Newshound Guru Adam Montana   First I'll state the obvious - no HCL and no RV at this time. Now, an item that has been popping up in the news and in dinar discussions a lot is article 140. Most of the time when these articles or topics come up, unless it has something to do directly with the HCl, I tend to be a naysayer about their relevance… This one is slightly different.  ...it might be a good idea to have a background on what article 140 actually is.  In a nutshell, there are several areas that Erbil / the Kurdish government is attempting to claim as theirs, but are currently arguably under the Iraqi government rule, regardless of where they rightfully belong.  ...there is a power struggle going on and neither side would willingly walk away or give in without a good reason... At this time the Kurds would not want to give them up because obviously they want the land and also the resources under the land, in addition to the historical and religious reasons. Baghdad currently has a stronger political argument for ownership, plus they do not want to see the Kurdish region secede.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

8-16-2017
   Intel Guru Bruce   ...on Thursday we talked about the ATMs in Iraq being active and alive.  They were testing the ATM machines. We understand the tests were successful.  Now the ATMs are operable.   If so then the lower denoms are out and have a new rate.  Did that occur yet? I can’t tell you 100 percent it has. I can’t verify that right now. It is positive that the ATMS are ready to put out the lower denoms.  The lower denoms, that is the new dinar currency that will replace the currency we have  with numbers of bills such as we have 5 dollar bill, 10, 20 50 100, so on.   ...we are expecting or waiting on is a rate to show.  [post 2 of 2]

8-16-2017   Intel Guru Bruce   In Iraq it looks like from the Iraqi perspective talking to some of our Forex sources, it appears that the Forex was trading the dinar from its position of 1160 or 1168 down to 1140 so forth.  The thinking was by sometime tonight [Tuesday] it could be traded all the way down to where it would zero out and come back to $1. to $1.25 or something like that up to its true value.  The thinking is that the rate which we have seen some decent rates that were in the vicinity that Dr Shabbi talked about the dinar being able to support. We have seen couple of these rates be on some of the new Qi cards in and outside of Iraq on Iraqi citizens and dual Iraqi citizens. High rates that are stable. Are they place holder rates? Would it be giving us indication what the rate would be?  We don’t know that yet.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-16-2017   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   [Free float or managed float Kap?]   ...if the intent is to be in the world markets it has to free float.  Yemen is free floating as of today... Egypt is free floating...Morocco is free floating...I would guess that Iraq will follow suit at least for a period of time to raise the value of the dinar.  Once market forces take over it will go up. No doubt. The CBI is in the business to make money and to float the currency allows for the CBI to end the daily auctions and profit off commissions from floating.   I just want people to understand this is not going to go down like they think...It will not RV overnight.  [post 2 of 2]

8-16-2017   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Those that didn't know, earlier this year, Egypt and Morocco announced they would float their currencies.  Well today, Yemen announced a free float!  I think that Yemen decided to float today is huge!  This should help Iraq make the decision once ready.  I read the other day since March (which is when Egypt floated), Egypt has raised there reserves $15 billion dollars.  Still doubt the dinar will float? We know for a fact the plan is to float the Iraqi dinar because the CBI gov..Ali al-Allaq said so...  The only way the dinar can be in the world markets is if it floats.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-16-2017   Intel Guru Delta   VERY INTERESTING TODAY VIETNAM DONG DID OPEN TODAY AT  $0.0044  AND THATS ABOUT $4400 FOR A MILLION DONG.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/tools/currencyconverter  [ ..I went to that currency converter that you put up and I see no change in value.]  IT WENT BACK!   [...why would it reverse?]  MAYBE TESTING!!!

TNT Dinar Conference Call w/Rayren98

Benny/WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER+ INTEL

KTFA UPDATE, 16 AUGUST

Cinderella1906:  FAMILY  FRANK HAS KINDLY ALLOWED THE NOTES FROM Q AND A TONIGHT TO BE POSTED HERE FOR ALL.....   PLEASE DONT FORGET TO THANK HIM ..... ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU ALSO TO MY HELPERS TONY , JOY, VSDK, IOBEY, AND LINDA.. ...  GREAT TEAM WORK ........AND MUCH APPRECIATED !!!!

Q: Frank thank you for your time, efforts, patience and offerings, it has been a trying time after all these years for so many.

My question is since we have really nothing left to study per se, except loose ends to be *******, and being there are only very few of them, is the main event going to be down to any one event or a collection of the events at the same time?

Keeping in mind (all being in motion now, imo) with teachings we have had, that the 1:1 pay scale is to be on or around 8/21 real close for to see future results, and that that may show end of month physically for the citizens.
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Frank26:  AS I SAID ON M CC .............NOT ''ONE'' THING IS THE MR...........

THERE ARE A CONVERSION OF EVENTS THAT R HAPPENING NOW.........

AND RATHER QUICKLY .......WHICH IS VERY IMPRESSIVE FOR THE ME

THE KEY AS WE SAID ON MCC RT NOW IS .........ART 140

WHY………….BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE US THE BUDGET AND HCL........

ALSO ............ THE INTERNATIONAL ACTIVITY RT NOW IS BRING US ART 8 ..........

BECAUSE THE INVESTORS ARE PUSHING IT ALONG WITH ..........THE WTO ....

WHICH IS ALSO THE SAME AS SAYING THE USA.........

TOMORROW WE TALK ABOUT THE DEALS THAT T MADE WITH SA (Saudi Arabia)

THEN NEXT WEEK WE TALK TO U ABOUT THE ATMS AND LDS

IF AND ONLY IF ALL GOES AS WELL AS IT IS GOING RT NOW

INDEED A COLLISION OF MANY THINGS THAT NEVER NEVER WERE AROUND NOR POSSIBLE AS THEY ONCE WERE .........

UNDER TERRORISM.........NOT FROM ISIS BUT FROM WITHIN

IT IS THE WORST TYPE OF EROSION ........LIKE WHAT WE EXPERIENCED HERE ON SAT NIGHT...........ATTACKS FROM WITH IN'

Q: With the "light speed " the MR is in, has your thinking of holding 72 to 76 days been altered in any way?

Frank26:  NO .......IF SO ........I WILL PREPARE U .......ALL OF THIS CHAT IS ............IMO

Q: Frankie do you know anyone who has seen the Ld's in banks yet?

Frank26: I WISH NOT TO LIE SO AT TIMES I WISH TO SAY ......NC

Q: Frank, Delta posted about CBI requesting an extended Holiday, was it approved for this week

Frank26:  LOL….THEY ALWAYS GET THE HOLIDAYS .......

IT WAS KINDA SILLY THAT THEY PUT IT IN PAPER

BUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   WE DID SAY TO EACH OTHER .........

FASCINATING .............HOW THE CBI IS ACTING SO .......PROFESSIONAL

Q: Since Iraq has been released from Chapter 7, why is Kawait still so important to watch?

Frank26:  BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SWAP NOW ............ R THEY INSANE AT 1186 OR R WE LACKING DATA?

Q: WS has been on a tear today with some great posts. Which one stood out for you the most? Thanks!

Frank26:  ALL OF THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q: Are there steps to joining WTO? Or as simple as signing an agreement?

Frank26:  GREAT QT.............. ATR 8 IS NEEDED
AND IMO THEY ARE POUNDING AWAY AT IT SINCE CH7 WAS REMOVED

Q: Percentage wise where are we at of the completion of MR?

Frank26:  NC ............ AS A TEAM WE WISH NOT TO GIVE SUCH PERCENTAGES DUE TO UNDISCIPLINED MEMBERS BUT ..........LET ASK THEM TO CLOSE THEIR EYES FOR A SECOND............BWT 80 TO 90 % IMO

Q: Frank you have indicated no RV in Aug but are you still very positive about this year?

Frank26:  TO ASK SUCH A QT FRIEND IS DANGEROUS ............ BASED ON SAT NIGHT ............ BUT AS FOR MY OPINION ...........OH %$#@! YES

Q: are the atm,s live and active in SA and KW yet like jordan

Frank26:  I GAVE THAT INFO TO THE POINT WE CAN ON CC LAST NIGHT .........I READ U MY FRIENDS TEXT ..........REMEMBER?

Q: Does Iraq needs to be in chapter 8 formally announced before they can RV or could be done otherwise ?
Frank26:  ALOHA DAVID !!! ................. CHEW THOSE SEEDS LOL............ IT IS ARTICLE 8 AND THEY HAVE TO BE OUT OF IT NOT IN IT ................. AND YES BEFORE THEY RV

Q: is Iran always going to cause problems or has T backed them into a corner??

Frank26:  LOL.......T KICKED THEIR DONKEYS ........... AS WE SHARED ON CC LAST NIGHT ............. THEY WERE RECENTLY LEFT OUT AND IT SHOCKED THEM TO THE POINT OF ...........COOPERATION ............TO A POINT..........TIME WILL TELL HOW THEY CONTINUE TO REACT

Q: Is the 2% compliance still a requirement

Frank26:  AGAIN….AS WE SAID ON CC LAST NIGHT ..........
THEY ARE AT 6% AND THAT *****WE ALSO SHARED THE THREE ................THE THREE !!! ............... REMAINING STEPS FOR ART 8 REMOVAL

Q: Frank is corruption the long pole in the tent , if not what is

Frank26:  AS WE SAID ON CC LAST NIGHT ..........IT IS THE %$#@! PARLIAMENT

Q: Frank .... If you could ask me to take One request to God in prayer for You personally, what would it be? Tell me and I will do it.

Frank26:  MORE ..............PATIENCE

I AM IN CHARGE OF HELPING 1000'S .......... MY PATIENTS IS TAXED .....TY

Q: Is there anything the LL/investors can do to help A? Or are they doing all they can to speed this up?

Frank26: THEY ARE AGREEING WITH HIM ............ FOR THEY ARE POURING IN THEIR MONEY ......... THEN THEIR COMPANIES

Q: Article 140 is important but the referendum and voting isn't until late sept and further. Does the rv have to wait til after then?

Frank26:  DO NOT KNOW .......... BUT NOW ........U KNOW WHY WE SHARED ......... NOT IN AUG.........WINK

Q: after art 8 what will they go into next,basel 4,,lol 5 to be ahead of everyone

Frank26: THERE ARE A SLEW OF POSITIONS THEY WILL TAKE BUT NONE UNDER RESTRICTED ARTICLES ........... NOR UN'S ............. THAT IS THE KEY ..........

Q: Abadi and team have done an incredible job cleaning up the Maliki mess...under extremely adverse complexities....do you see any other lurking issues that have not been addressed? Cha gracias..

Frank26:  AS FAR AS OUR EYES AND TEAMS CAN SEE.......... NO .............. WATCH M RUN LIKE FOREST ........... BTW I WILL TELL U THINGS OF MA ND RUSSIA 2MORROW

Q: In your opinion what is the biggest obstacle remaining for the RV?

Frank26:  PARLIAMENT PARASITES ......WHEREAS IT USE TO BE TERRORISM AND CITES .....AND CH7

Q: RE: the 1 to 1...surely the employers have now been informed as to how payroll is to be prepared this month....do you have any new insight into this yet?

Frank26:  YES BUT TEAM SAY ................NC

Q: IYO, what are three major and significant events (for U.S.A., Iraq, political, economic, etc.) coming up within the next 4 weeks which you believe could have a very significant impact on the RV? Spaciba!

Frank26:  ONLY THREE?  OK THAT'S EASY

ART 8 ........WITH THE 3 THINGS WE SHARED ON CC LAST NIGHT

ELECTIONS IN IRAQ  THIS YR !!!

IRAN

Q: What is being done to push Parliament to get it done?

Frank26:  ARREST BY THE DOZENS .............LIKE KTFA ..........AND THEY ARE CLEANING HOUSE

Q: How difficult will it be for the CBI to reach 2% compliance?

Frank26:  LOL.....WHAT IF I SAID THEY ARE .........CLOSE TO IT?

Q: Frank did you find what you were looking for in the sanction bill?

Frank26:  YES burg
Q: Frank what time in September are some of the local Elections in Iraq. Seems like I remember the 20th something.... Thanks Frank....Love ya Brother....

Frank26:  THEY ARE IN SEPT BUT DO NOT RECALL THE DATES ............BUT YOURS SOUND FAMILIAR

Q: What new info will team let you release to us now, per your post this morning?

Frank26:  IT IS SOMETHING FROM GHOST THE WAS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WS ARTICLES TODAY

Q: As investors in this blessing, other than prayer which I'm sure many of us are doing, what is the #1 thing you would advise us to prepare for/do?

Frank26:  TALK TO A FINANCIAL ADVISOR ...........

TALK WITH A LAWYER.......DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL...........

IF U DO NOT KNOW ONE .........GO TO YOUR CHURCH

TALK TO SOME THAT MAY HELP

TALK TO AN ACCOUNTANT..........IRS SPECIALIST

WHEN THEY LAUGH AT U….EXPECT THAT

BUT THE U BE A PROFESSIONAL AND SHOW THEM OUR ARTICLES

IT DOES NOT TAKE A GENIUS TO FIGURE IT OUT

Q: sunday is the 20th,monday is the 21st,,,and we hope to see great things with the 1 to 1 is this sat into sun of particular interest since delta and you say it can happen anytime and that they will surprise us

Frank26:  YES ............ NOW.........
TAKE NOTE THAT WE SHARE THIS CONCEPT WITH U MANY MONTHS AGO
WHY……BECAUSE WE CARE

Q: Aren't parliament parasites hard to remove in a timely fashion?

Frank26:  LOL….NOPE….GOING….ALMOST GONE…..THE CHICKEN CACA THEY R

Q: Frank you said you wanted to talk to US this am what do you want to say

Frank26:  GHOST AND WS (Walkingstick) ...........ARE SO VALUABLE….DONT U AGREE
THEN U WILL AGREE MORE 2MORROW (Wednesday)

Q: Frank on Mcc I heard you mention the 23rd for atm's going live, what country were you refering too? THX

Frank26:  SAID THEY WERE LIVE NOW………NC

Q: 2% for 90 days ....true...sorry was trying to correct mistake on previous

Frank26:  THERE U GO

IT WAS IN THE 90 DAYS OF THE 3 ZERO LIFTING THAT WORKED ON THE %'S SPREAD

Q: If payroll happens at 1:1 and atm's are live, can they hold rv longer?

Frank26:  CC LAST NIGHT SAID .........
IF THEY DID DELAY THIS STEP IT WOULD HUT THEM FINANCIALLY
IRAQ IS SICK AND TIRED OF PAIN

Q: Hello Sir, 2 of the 4 ME Countries are on board any word on the others?

Frank26:  NC FOR NOW ...........IOO WE HAVE GIVEN ENOUGH

Q: Can you say what you found in the sanction bill?

Frank26:  I WANT TO…BUT SINCE SAT ........... WE RATHER NOT SORRY
MY TEAMS ARE ALL WATCHING ........ I HONOR THEM ..........I AM SURE U UNDERSTAND..........TY

Q: Has "our friend" been able to "Tell and Show" you the thing you referenced as to your next (hopeful) update from him?

Frank26:  NO .......... I DREAM OF THAT DATE FOR IMO ........... IT WILL BREAK THE TAPE

Q: Do the elections have to take place before rv?

Frank26:  NO...........GOOD QT
Q: Frank, forgive me if I missed it. When was the 4 day CBI holiday scheduled? Thanks for all that you & the teams do.

Frank26:  THIS WEEKEND I BELIEVE .......... FASCINATING ISNT IT?   WINK

Q: the speed of the Monetary reform seems to be going faster not slower. With the amazing news articles the past 24-48 hours with National reconciliation and art. 140, would this add even more pressure to the collision of events on the 21st???

Frank26:  YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q: I think an article about the Rafidian Bank came last week stating the official rate been 1260 and if so it's the 2% how would you explain that IYO ? Aloha Frank

Frank26: LIKE I SAID EARLIER ............. THEY ARE DEALING WITH THE SPREAD SUCCESSFULLY

WS and GHOST ARE A VALUABLE PART OF THIS FAMILY,,,99 % OF US WOULD BE SADDENED AND WE LEAVE NO MAN BEHIND AT KTFA,,,%

BUT WE NOW ..............HAVE TO

IOO WE R AT A POINT WHERE NEGATIVITY CAN CAUSE DAMAGE

IN OTHER WORDS ........... WE KNOW WHAT THE H$$$$ WE ARE DOING

Q: what requirement of the imf un or us that says they cant rv without art 140 seems to me got to have a number to get a percentage of..

Frank26:  SORRY YOUR QT IS CONFUSING SO I WILL ANSWER IT BY SAYING ............OK

Q: Frank the 4 countries that agreed to swap currencies with Iraq, is the purpose to increase the value of the dinar to a certain level?

Frank26:  NO…..THAT IS THE FLOAT……THAT IS THE 72 TO 78 (days)

Q: Frank Delta post on the dong man showing .0044 Was this a glitch

Frank26:  NO............. BUT IOO THE DONG IS LACKING DATA FOR US .............. BUT WE LIKE THE DONG REGARDLESS........... IT IS STRONG AND GETTING STRONGER

Q: Frank, I have to know.... Oreos, Chips Ahoy, or Nutter Butters?

Frank26:  THAT IS EASY .............ALL OF THEM ............LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q: Frank, just for my clarity, what is the purpose of the currency swaps?

Frank26:  OK.....LET ME ASK U ........ARE U WILL TO EXCHANGE FACE TO FACE VALUE YOUR DOLLARS WITH THE PR DINAR OF IRAQ RT NOW?  ANSWER PLEASE

 no

Frank26:  THEN WHERE IS THE LOGIC OF ALL THESE NEIGHBORING COUNTIES WANTING TO DO SO ?

BECAUSE THEY ARE AT THE TABLE OF MEETINGS THAT MY FRIEND IS AT
IN FACT MANY OF MY FRIENDS…..BUT ONLY ........ONLY !!!!!!!!!!!!
WS WAS WAS WILLING TO SHARE

NOW HE SHARE WITH ARTICLES……IT WOULD BEHOOVE THE NET TO LISTEN

IN FACT TODAY I WAS TOLD A GURU WAS ANGRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO WS LAST SAT ..........LOL.............AMAZING

Q: Frank is Kurdistan done

Frank26:  OH NO…..DONE WITH CH7 YES

Q: Frank all i,m saying is knowing the teams are here 99% of us here are a close knit family and try our hardest to study what they and Frank bring us,,,and i think they should be proud of who this family have become,,,,because of you all,,,,in my opinion Frank has done a great job and we are strong as a family,,,so please stay with the family and make us stronger.

Frank26:  HOO RAH .................THEY SAY .............. THEY ALSO SAY.........
GO SLOW FRANK26 ............. NO NEED TO RUN ANYMORE

Q: if approximately 2% of the United States owns the Iraqi dinar when they revalue how will that affect the Iraqi budget

Frank26:  WHERE DID U GET THAT DATA?.....ANSWER PLEASE
Not for sure just a guess

Frank26:  THEN HERE IS MY ANSWER

WE DO NOT GUESS WITH NUMBERS ..............
NO ONE TRULY KNOWS HOW MANY DINARS THE UST HAS……WISH WE DID

Q: in your opening monologue you spoke of possibly commenting on ATMS and LD's on next M CC.. (if all go's well this week). Is that because the speed of the monetary reform has picked up "pace" ..in your opinion? ??

Frank26:  IMO ......SINCE AUG 2ND THE MR IS TRAVELING SUPER FAST ..........ITS' KINDA LIKE IRAQ ACTUALLY WANTS THE MR NOW

Q: Maliki tried to flee to Russia, the Gov of Basra to Iran. Will Iraq clamp down on any more trying to escape?

Frank26:  LOL…..OH HELL NO…..THEY CAN ALL LEAVE FOR ALL WE CAR
I MEAN FOR ALL THEY CARE…..BOZOS……LOL

Q: IMF stated they have had a article IV with Iraq what was the results from that meeting

Frank26:  TEAMS SAY ..........NC

Q: I was confused by the date on the 140 article of june6 .. has it been settled

Cinderella1906:  NO…THERE ARE NO MORE AFTER SS FRANK

Frank26:  HMMMM…TO BAD….I AM IN A MOOD TO TALK
A SU CAN C….THEY ARE SATISFIED CIND

Q: Frank atms live can LD be had from them

Frank26:  YES.....IMO

Q: If you want to talk, what do you want to say?

Frank26:  IT NO WORK THAT WAY ……I AM A PINATA……HIT ME….LOL

Q: would Kurdistan be able to delay the RV with the stunt of threatening independence if they don’t get what they want?

Frank26:  OH NO……THEY ARE SO HAPPY RT NOW

Q: Frank if Kurdistan is not then they can't RV without Article 140 who is negotiting to please them

Frank26:  THEY CAN RV WITHOUT ART 140 IMO

Q: will the rate show on the CBI both Arabic and English side right when it hits or will the CBI try to hide it?

Frank26:  NO HIDE ................BY LAW ............. BOTH SIDES .........GOOD QT SS
Q: Frank, if I read your answers correctly about LDs , have they RI a rate within Iraq?

Frank26:  NO.............HENCE NO LDS……….YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     THINK 21ST

Q: If you say you don't expect it in August, am I right in assuming it would surprise you if they show the new rate on Aug.?

Frank26:  NOPE............THEY R DOING THINGS SO FAST THAT MANY TIMES THIS YEAR HAVE HAPPENED FASTER THAN WE EXPECTED AND WE HAVE SHOWN U THAT EVIDENCE MANY TIME S IF U HAVE STUDIED WITH US

Q: If the ATMs go live on the 20th or 21st would that make them international to the world or just the M.E.? Thank you

Frank26:  THE WORLD

Q:  is it safe to assume that the four countries will be the basis of the gulf dinar?

Frank26:  NO .............THERE WILL BE MANY MORE WE SHARED THAT ON A CC

Q: Will we see more than an eclipse with or without glasses?

Frank26:  I SO PRAY SO

Q: Is there more confirmation in your opinion and your opinion only, that the LDs will be loaded and ACTIVATED on the 21st? Ps I'm trying to "hit" you, MR Piñata......

Frank26:  YES

Q: everyone is making deals how about we make a deal to have them do it and we will act surprised

Frank26:  OK

Q: Dear Sir, Delta and Teams, we have been together as a Christian family for so long will you pls consider talking not just through articles in the future

Frank26:  NO

Q: IYO why did the CBI call for a four day holiday this week?

Frank26:  TO CONTINUE IN SECRECY ……IMO

Q: Sorry. When the ld's come out will it be in more than one country?

Frank26:  FIRST IN IRAQ….THEN MAYBE IN IQDS CAUSE THEY TALKED ABOUT IT

Q: Am I sensing right that you feel like seeing the light at the end of the tunnel & you point us to that light so we can see it but many are sooo blinded by it they don't realize they're seeing the light b/c they're being blinded by it?

Frank26:  I POINT U TO THE LIGHT OF GOD ............... HE DOES NOT BLIND ANYONE THAT IS ................ WILLING TO SEE WITH A HEART OF AGAPE LOVE ............ IT IS HATE AND WANT THAT BINDS TO SOUL OF HUMANS

Q: Frank what would you ask that we did not

Frank26:  FOR MY QTS WOULD CONFUSE U

Q: Financial advisor first, then pick a bank

Frank26:  AND A LAWYER…..TA DA

I ENJOYED MY TIME WITH U FAMILY THAT I LOVE SO MUCH

Q: Frank can you make a closing statement

Frank26:  IN THE BEGINNING .................WHEN U FIRST CAME TO KTFA
U SEEKED ANSWERS TO YOUR QTS

MY PRAYER IS THAT U NOW HAVE ANSWERS ..........

THE MR OF IRAQ IS GOING AT A PACE WE AS A TEAM HAVE NEVER SEEN

IT IS IMPRESSIVE…IT IS TRUE

DO NOT BE AS JUDAS….WITH A LACK OF FAITH

BE STRONG….BE READY

FOR WHEN IT COMES I FEAR MANY WILL BE LOTTERY WINNER

BE THE CENTURIONS THAT GOD NEEDS

BE AWARE OF YOUR STEWARDSHIP

I SO LOVE U ALL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING GOD'S WORK WITH THE 10% THAT WILL BE LEFT

FOR MANY R CALLED ........BUT FEW ANSWER

WILL U B THE ONES TO ANSWER THE CALL OF THE BELL?

JOIN ME TOMORROW (Wednesday CC) BECAUSE GHOST AND I WISH TO TELL U SOMETHING

U DO NOT…NOR DID NOT REALIZE WHO LOVE U KTFA FAMILY?

GOD DOES AND HUMBLE i

LOVE U ALL INTO ETERNITY

ALOHA OI

ALOHA BRAEMS OF A POWERFUL REALITY    
    

BLUWOLF TIDBIT, 16 AUGUST

WSOMN CHAT, 16 AUGUST

TED1016: 
Another Monday with hints that we will see the RV this week and just to be on the safe side they say it may go into the weekend. Really???? How many more times are they going to play this tune? So that is that is that and lots of references to the IMF are going to be as flexible as the Gurus predictions. Such is life and I suppose that is enough space talking about that.

I’m still putting in applications for part time jobs in a number of different places with no results so far. The tool box that I am trying to sell has peaked no interest so far. Well at least I got it cleaned up and I guess after I get my former greenhouse completed into a second garage I will put it out there. Of course my present garage is a mess and I need to be out there cleaning up.

Most Gracious and Heavenly Father, I am still getting more prayer request from our members who are suffering in so many ways. Father, give me the words to calm and reassure our members as we traverse this process at a snail’s pace. The needs are great and answers to the prayers are slow in coming to our members. Still, these are good people and my prayers will not end until their goals are met.

Dear Lord God Almighty hear our prayers and reinforce our beliefs that help will come as the wind blows softly across our land. Lord, be with our Board Monitor Avon Lady as she sleeps tonight. She is a very special lady to all of our members and is loved by all. I know that bad things sometimes happens to good people but this Lady did not deserve to be injured in the manner that she was.

Again I say rest easy my friends here on the WSOMN board. Keep the faith and continue to pray for those among us who are hurting and lift their spirits every chance you can both publicly and through personal prayer sessions. Our goal is getting closer with every tick of the clock. Amen and Amen.




 

Hey I got a email that someone requested a password change on this account. It was not me. so What do I?

DARBY- DISREGARD THE EMAIL, DELETE IT


 

I felt for Frank last nite,,,, I felt Frank 26 heart truly hurt

I didn't hear Frank...what happened?


 

people causing havoc in his forum. walking stick said he wont be back

GM. So what happened with Frank and WS? Is Frank still thinking Depressed?

GM. So what happened with Frank and WS? Is Frank still thinking Depressed?

Anybody figure out what happened to Frank and WS?

Much more important than that is, was there any decent intel from him (them)?


 

Good morning beautiful people. I have a quick question for you. In the past couple of days I have received emails regarding my request to change my password on this site and also on twitter. I have not made these requests. Have any of you had a similar experience?


 

SOUTHWEST- GOOD MORNING, WE HAVE ALL GOTTEN THE EMAIL AND WHERE TOLD TO IGNORE THEM


 

Good morning troops! What is the cost of Frank's heartbroken distress?

Poor Frankie got his feelings hurt........again.

SNICKERS- THAT'S WHAT I HEAR.


 

Suspecting any day now we'll be hearing from the durus that WF may not be in the ce picture as before, and maybe we should be thinking of a plan B - ce'ing at another T1 bank besides WF. I can see it coming. lol


 

Good morning KLS. By the way RC, how come I don't see you posting articles anymore?

I read down, there really isn't anything left RC....Intel is non-existent, news = zero (old)....just down to pulling trigger. Angel: Because you do such a wonderful job....not that RC didn't.


 

My understanding, he shut off intel..."ppl ragging on his intel provider, in Iraq, Walkingstick" WSOMN wanted to walk away from the insults.


 

GM all. KLS, not seen you here for a while...

PJ: I come in, check out the mood of room. Lurk, then off doing my stuff, living life.


 

KLS, i understand Walkingstick's position. It's life, man to man is so unjust. These guys do this for us when they don't have to, and the least we can do is appreciate their efforts.


 

ANGEL- THE AVERAGE PERSON DOES NOT APPRECIATE THE WORK SO MANY DO TO PROVIDE REAL INTEL, MOST JUST WANT TO FLUFF AND FEEL GOOD STUFF. I'M THROUGH WITH THE FLUFF


 

I listened to my intel yesterday... everyone is staring at one person....to pull the trigger. It will happen, when he/she pulls it. NO ONE WILL BE LEFT OUT, no one!


 

WE HAVE WAITED THIS LONG AND WE WILL GET OUR REWARD FOR WAITING, THE KEY IS TO KEEP WAITING AND DO NOT GIVE YOUR CURRENCY TO ANYONE


 

Exactly! Do not give it to anyone to handle for you. Do not sell it, it will be your biggest regret. Get out, off you chair smell the roses, walk around the block....smile, you will be blessed.

Mod question: what is the password reset notification emails? I never requested a pw change... Curious

GA, PBEAM…IF YOU DID NOT REQUEST A PASSWORD CHANGE, PLEASE IGNORE AND DELETE ANY NOTIFICATION YOU RECEIVED

Hey mods, maybe you should consider doing a recurring (automatic) post re the password change thing, say every 100th post in here. Wouldn't your lives be a bit easier?

SURE, SNICKERS…YOU COUNT THE 100 POSTS AND TELL ME WHEN TO POST IT!!

dp LOL. So, I'm guessing there's no way to set it to go at any prescribed interval.Automatically. Right? That's what I was positing.

SNICKERS, YOU ARE RIGHT. GREAT SUGGESTION THOUGH. THANKS. ALWAYS GLAD TO SEE YOU!!

Had anyone seen if the rates have changed on the CBI site ? Just wondering???

HEY, MINY…THE RATES ON THE CBI SITE ARE THE SAME…[SIGH]

Miny Mouse wrote
23m ago
So if there are no changes to the rate what does that mean ???

TO ME, IT MEANS THEY HAVE NOT MADE ANYTHING PUBLIC TO US…

Hello everyone. I was just reading Admin's message. Is our group going after the large ones?


 

MS SANDY- GREAT QUESTION, IF YOU FIND THE ANSWER LET US KNOW

Hi RC. I don't have any answers. That's why I come here. WSOMN are where all the smart people are!

YOU'RE RIGHT...THAT'S WHY I HANG OUT HERE...THE SMART PEOPLE...LIKE RC...ARE HERE!!

It's unanimous. RC has all the answers!

MS SANDY- NOT ALL BUT SOME


 

OOPS, I GOT ANOTHER ONE OF THE PASSWORD EMAILS…

I haven't received any emails for password change here at WSOMN. But i have received 7 emails for password change for Twitter


 

MAJI, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THOSE ARE ALSO SPAM…DELETE AND DON'T RESPOND


 

I'm beginning to feel if 8/21 blows by uneventfully, then it's hello September. We'll see. Just a feeling.


 

Ppl losing hope and room is changing

I use to listen to Jerry Maguire call just to hear Art then I hung up


 

Hi everybody. Please share any intel from Bruce.

Hi dedar no Intel yet


 

Be happy today and for tomorrow. I feel great!!!! I am a happy camper!!!

I was trying to work out what RayRen meant with the last part of his update. Could we go to September 25th?

Don't pay him any mind, I do like the 27th

Did anyone else read that the whole operation/exchange may be digital, where we don't even have to physically "go" to the bank??? umm


 

Two years ago was annoying...now fringing on ridiculous....the waiting ya, I know...it's a process but just thinking out loud

trel i am an admin in the orig admirals group....if i hear anything....i will let the room know asap....no secrets

tool has anyone in admiral grp gone yet

db not one yet

Ref Bruce and sue are just guessing and praying one day they will be right and of course they will claim their called it.
Same thing on all their calls

 

candy, I agree. Yet I keep listening. Somehow I do find it encouraging. Better than No intel at all.

Seegood I really understand but it bothers me that we need to listen to Sue selling their stuff for 1 to 1 1/2 hrs if that is giving information I am loosing it. Then he always say the same thing if it is on Tuesday then Thursday is celebration day and on Thursdays is Tuesday celebration day. So far he has never giving anything we have nit heard before from other Gurus

TNT: INTEL UPDATE, 16 UGUST

It is reported that the IMF has warned Iraq of inflation on the public debt promoting acceleration of the "process"

The Kurds started meetings on Monday in Baghdad regarding Article 140 and the September referendum issues. Those meetings supposedly continue through Tuesday.

Iraqi TV is stating that Maliki is impeding the progress of Article 140.

November 1 has been chosen for the date for the Kurds to vote on Independence while continuing with September 25 for the Referendum.

Time Will Tell!!
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Paula1946:  What is artical 140....if I may sound so stupid.

Susanac:  question luvs--is art 140 an impediment for rv?

Luvwulfs:  Susana GA, the meetings continue. Don't know….Yes it needs to resolved, but before or after? Who knows. Some say it has to be done before

Yada:  luvwulfs,,the way I see the negotiations of the article 140,,,it had already been passed,,,the Kurds were looking to add on to it like our amendments to our constitution.

Semperfi01:  Guys article 140 was agreed upon and passed years ago by parliament but was never enacted. It has to do with land disputes between the Kurds and Baghdad. And yes it does need to be settled…. The Kurds say the land of Kirkuk belongs to them just so happens that is where the major oil fields are. Which means Kurdistan would be owed more of the revenue from that oil and Baghdad doesn't like that.

BestBuy:  It is starting: Saudi Arabia to reopen border with Iraq after 27 years​ http://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2017/08/saudi-arabia-reopen-border-i​raq-27-years-170815173750439.html

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Mot:  Once upon a time, there lived a King who, despite his luxurious lifestyle, was neither happy nor content.

One day, the King came upon a servant who was singing happily while he worked. This fascinated the King; why was he, the Supreme Ruler of the Land, unhappy and gloomy, while a lowly servant had so much joy.

The King asked the servant, 'Why are you so happy?'

The man replied, 'Your Majesty, I am nothing but a servant, but my family and I don't need too much - just a roof over our heads and warm food to fill our tummies.'

The king was not satisfied with that reply. Later in the day, he sought the advice of his most trusted advisor. After hearing the King's woes and the servant's story, the advisor said, 'Your Majesty, I believe that the servant Has not been made part of The 99 Club.'

'The 99 Club? And what exactly is that?' the King inquired.

The advisor replied, 'Your Majesty, to truly know what The 99 Club is, place 99 Gold coins in a bag and leave it at this servant's doorstep.'

When the servant saw the bag, he took it into his house. When he opened the bag, he let out a great shout of joy... So many gold coins!

He began to count them. After several counts, he was at last convinced that there were 99 coins. He wondered, 'What could've happened to that last gold coin? Surely, no one would leave 99 coins!'

He looked everywhere he could, but that final coin was elusive. Finally, exhausted he decided that he was going to have to work harder than ever to earn that gold coin and complete his collection.

From that day, the servant's life was changed. He was overworked, horribly grumpy, and castigated his family for not helping him make that 100th gold coin. He stopped singing while he worked.

Witnessing this drastic transformation, the King was puzzled. When he sought his advisor's help, the advisor said, 'Your Majesty, the servant has now officially joined The 99 Club.'

He continued, 'The 99 Club is a name given to those people who have enough to be happy but are never contented, because they're always yearning and Striving for that extra 1, saying to themselves: 'Let me get that one final thing and then I will be happy for life.'

We can be happy, even with very little in our lives, but the minute we're given something bigger and better, we want even more! We lose our sleep, our happiness, we hurt the people around us; all these as a price for our growing needs and desires.

That's the "Club 99"

Are you member of "Club 99"

TODAY'S CONFERENCES CALLS, 16 AUGUST


Dinarland -Chattles NEWS Report Audio/Video Reply
Landa Global Humanus 5pm

Delta Tuesday Night 8-15-17 "Vietnamese Dong Today", 16 AUGUST

DELTA:  VERY INTERESTING TODAY VIETNAM DONG DID OPEN TODAY AT  $0.0044  AND THATS ABOUT $4400 FOR A MILLION DONG. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/tools/currencyconverter

AnneM: Delta, I appreciate the news about the dong but I went to that currency converter that you put up and I see no change in value. I hope I'm looking in the right place. Ann  

DELTA: IT WENT BACK!!!

Whatever: Hey Dear Delta, now why would it reverse?

DELTA:  MAYBE TESTING !!!

Whatever:  So... I wonder if the VND is going to float at some point? I have diversified and that's what I am curious about.. happy as always and thankful for the information.

THE BIG CALL NOTES, 16 AUGUST

THE BIG CALL WITH BRUCE TUESDAY, AUGUST 15, 2017, INTEL ONLY
TRANSCRIBED BY PINKROSES
 
Bruce:  Welcome Everybody to the Big Call. I want to congratulation everybody for continuing to being faithful coming back to the Big Call every Tuesday and Thursday nights.  I told you we stay here and be here until this blessing comes through.  We will take you to the point when you are exchanging so on, and redeeming your ZIM.  It is also good to know that we have future plans beyond the blessing to help you guys with a number of different subjects as we come into them down the road.

​I plan on doing a pod cast at least once a week and put it on our new website when it comes out. You can listen to it anytime you like. I am excited about the future of the Big Call because I think we will be working with a lot of cool projects together. The President mentioned the infrastructure he is interested in for our country. He talked about the release of funds for infrastructure. We want to do a lot of that type of work ourselves with our Rebuild America. Keep that in mind. You might want to mention that when you go into your exchange.
Bruce:  I want you to be aware the super rich which you will be part of that group as result of this blessing, they have a thing called Kidnap Insurance. We are trying not to put anything out there that isn’t real.  You might be in a situation where you might need that. For your family and business associates you might want to look into Kidnap insurance. Keep that in mind. Also you might want to consider Extended Travel Insurance. You might be self insurance on some of these things. I know the Kidnap Insurance isn’t very expensive, and the Extended Travel Insurance people have that as well. Look into that if you want to provide for yourself and your family.

Bruce:  When it comes to our Intel, today was a wild day.  We really were looking so good today and still are. We weren’t sure if the call was going to be a regular call or not. A lot of things started to come thru for us that we been looking for.

Bruce:  In Iraq it looks like from the Iraqi perspective talking to some of our Forex sources, it appears that the Forex was trading the dinar from its position of 1160 or 1168 down to 1140 so forth.  The thinking was by sometime tonight it could be traded all the way down to where it would zero out and come back to $1. to $1.25 or something like that up to its true value. That was happening this afternoon and should have zeroed out by now. The thinking is that the rate which we have seen some decent rates that were in the vicinity that Dr Shabbi talked about the dinar being able to support. We have seen couple of these rates be on some of the new Qi cards in and outside of Iraq on Iraqi citizens and dual Iraqi citizens. High rates that are stable. Are they place holder rates? Would it be giving us indication what the rate would be?  We don’t know that yet.

Bruce:  We understand the Gazette is published on Wednesday and Sunday around 7:30am Iraqi time. Could we see a rate change tonight? We are thinking we could. Then it could be published in the Gazette and show up tomorrow. That is what we are hoping for. Let’s see if it occurs.  We didn’t get it in the Gazette on Sunday.

Bruce:  The last time we talked on Thursday we talked about the ATMs in Iraq being active and alive.  They were testing the ATM machines. We understand the tests were successful.  Now the ATMs are operable. I haven’t heard anything to say they weren’t.  If so then the lower denoms are out and have a new rate. Did that occur yet? I can’t tell you 100 percent it has. I can’t verify that right now. It is positive that the ATMS are ready to put out the lower denoms.  The lower denoms, that is the new dinar currency that will replace the currency we have  with numbers of bills such as we have 5 dollar bill, 10, 20 50 100, so on. ATMs will probably have 10s and 20s like we have in our ATMs. The fils or coins are still something not in the ATMs, but in the merchant stores and in the banks themselves. I bet they have them in rolls like we have them in rolls in our banks.  Fils are coins that are portions of a dinar like we have a nickel, dime, and quarter, similar to that.

Bruce:  Other than that, we are expecting or waiting on is a rate to show.  It might show in the printing of the Gazette.  It might show if the budget gets published in the Gazette. This is the day, 15th, August 15, that normally the UN Operation rates would become effective, or they would change. They could move that day for one day to show the rates to be updated. The UN Operational rate page has been blank with nothing on it except the 5 currencies that are part of the SDR basket. The special basket that includes the US dollar, the Chinese renminbi, the Euro, the British pound, and the Japanese yen.  All these represent the SDR or Special Drawing Right, basket. Do not confuse the SDR basket with the basket of currencies for the RV.  Our understanding is when we thought we would have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th basket for Revaluation, our understanding was with the total GCR everything gets revalue or devalue the same time. There may not be additional baskets, but just the one for the GCR. A lot of countries may call it redenomination. Like with Indonesia when they redenominated their currency.  It was revaluing their currency with new lower denominations. That happened about a week ago.
Bruce:  When we come back over here, the United States, we understand a lot of the things, the core groups, Indian claims, Farm claims, etc., we understand they were paid today. The other groups were paid yesterday. We understand our Chinese elders were busy with meetings to get all they could to get this in position to go. Groups were paid this morning, early this morning   basically with key strokes. Groups that already exchanged their funds that were in a holding status we understand they were released today.

Bruce: A lot going on with exchanges getting things in position for everybody to have liquidity. The biggest thing is access to their funds, liquidity.  There was a 24 hour settlement hold signed of yesterday came off today. The concept is this let say you had a deposit in your account of 100 million dollars. Then you wanted access to take some of that money out to move it.  That 100 million dollars would need to settle in that account over night. Usually it takes place at midnight to 2am at the bank where they put deposits  in and give credit for deposits and take any checks against those deposits.  That is the settling of those accounts.  If you took your money out today without that money settling, it would be hard to tell if it occurred or not. There is a 24hour settlement period that was signed in law when these large deposits could settle before they could be pulled out. The 24 hours may already come off.  If so, then some of these transactions took place could have liquidity and access maybe tonightor tomorrow. One of those things. They will know it when they see it. That is how close we are on people that have already gone in and exchanged.  A lot are about ready to be accessible.

Bruce:  We are next as Tier 4. We are looking for the toll free number to come out anytime. I know I said it before and it sounds like a broken record. We are at the time it is about to occur. It is that close. When that occurs I will be happy to put it on out on our website: thebigcall.net, and take if from there and put it out to a couple of other places online.

Bruce: In setting our appointments, this is what I understand the situation is going to be. When you get the toll free number, I don’t know if it will be an 800 number, you get your pen and paper ready and ready to call to set your appointment. When you call you will get a robo answering device to start with. I understand you could get this and it gives you two or three questions such as what is your name, phone number, your currencies you have, not the amount.  My understanding is if you answer those questions and that is what would happen. If you mention you have ZIM bonds, Zimbabwe, something of that effect, then you mention that first, then any other currency behind it. Then you suppose to be switch to a live operator.  Then you say what you need to say to set your appointment with a live operator. You could get someone at to your location of the Redemption Center. Redemption Centers are ready to go. Tier 1 banks, Tier 2 banks, and Tier 3 banks who will be doing exchanges are all ready. Today the Redemption Centers were literally working on last minute protocol, information about the exchange process and procedure.  They are ready to go.

Bruce:  Hopefully this will happen for us right away. Straight away.  When it comes to the pay out if you are a ZIM holder, because of the screen rate, on par with the dollar and I heard it double, when you go in and redeem your ZIM bond, the amount even at the screen rate is going to be so high based on the denomination of the ZIM. You are looking at a leverage payout. They took out the term structure payout and put in leverage payout. When you go in and set your leverage payout,  it could be 5, 10 15, 20 25. 50 years. Because the ZIM is so large, they want to have time to pay that out and pay interest to you. That is what you are going to be looking at with the ZIM.

Bruce:  If you go in and say I want my money from my ZIM out of the bank, it is not going to happen. If you throw a tantrum, then they will freeze your account.  You can kiss that goodbye. Be aware that if you have any idea how much money we are talking about? Your calculator won’t figure it out. These numbers are too big. The point of it is you are going to be earning interest every 90 days. It won’t have to have that high of a rate because the base of it is so high to begin with. Even if was 2% to 3%, it is going to be tons of money.

Bruce:  Hopefully you will use the money to buy bonds for infrastructure, or seeing that money into your ministries, humanitarian projects, etc. We talked about that enough. If you need a project and plan to negotiate a slighter higher rate just mention the Big Call and say we are doing Rebuild America and what that means is to adopt a city, town, community, and what it would look like for you is buying real estate, vacant lots, rehab homes, building homes, adding schools, recreation centers, new clinics, normal infrastructure such as roads, bridges, waterways, internet, electric grid, etc. There may be 8 different sets of infrastructure that I hope the Administration would put out.

​I would say that would be a cool way to take your quarterly interest and pay some of that money into infrastructure bonds. You will be helping to rebuild America thru those bonds.  I hope the Administration is planning to do that.  We will have a lot of money to put in that.  That is one thing I would say be aware of.  Just be chill and cool when it comes to working out your leverage payout. They will set that up based on the longevity, how old you are, how long you might live, and the type of projects you have. 
Rebuild America could go for as long as 20, 30 years. I going to personally go for the longest payout I can go. You set up your skeleton trust unless you have your trust already. You will have up to 6 months to re-do it, or modify it, or change it or set up a new trust for that trust document that they set up. Initially it will be a skeleton trust, a revocable trust, and then you want to set up an irrevocable trust in its place having worked it out with your Attorney, CPA.  Enjoy this experience.  It is going to take anywhere from 37 minutes to 1 hour and 20 minutes to get in and out of your first appointment.

Bruce:  I do not know if we will have a Thursday night call. We might have a Thursday call.  Let’s see what will happen.  I am hearing some good things. We may be good to go and have a recorded call for Thursday.  We have been close before, and here we are on Tuesday call. We don’t know how long this race is.  3, 30, 90 miles?  The point is we don’t really know where the end is. They have been moving the finish line back for us, seemingly they have.  Everything is moving along nicely.  Accounts are being hydrated, and groups are being paid out. We are next.

Hang in here. You made it this far. You can make it to the end. This is like being at the 20th or 21st mile of the marathon. You know have 22 something miles total. You are almost there. Don’t quit.  Don’t give up hope. Maintain and stay strong and get stronger as we come to the very end.  Hang in there. I am with you.  The Big Call is with you.  The community is all in this together.  We are all going to make it and succeed if we survive and thrive.

Bruce:  Thank you all for listening to the Big Call.  Thank you to my team, Sue, Bob, Pastor Steven, and Kent. Thank you Big Call listeners for your prayers, prayer requests, and praise requests.  Thank you for your continued faith. All have a good blessing and good night.
Thank you all and love you all in the Big Call universe. Thank you for your faith and for listening. We will be in touch.  Stay tune to the Big Call and our site: thebigcall.net.  All have a great night, and a good night sleep. Good Night Everybody.

THANK YOU BIG CALL AND BRUCE, HUGSSS