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Tuesday, August 15, 2017

IQD CHAT HIGHLIGHTS, 15 AUGUST

abangjadul: GA GM all
abangjadul: The Kurdish delegation is trying to persuade the central government to give up the draft referendum in areas outside the borders of Kurdistan, in exchange for guarantees and guarantees for the implementation of Article 140 of the disputed areas, including Kirkuk," Sahlani said in a statement.

He noted that "there is no explicit provision in the Iraqi constitution talks about the referendum and the right to self-determination, and the neighboring countries opposed to the referendum and the independence of Kurdistan, and therefore the subject of the referendum is almost a pressure on the region and the central government."

 Noting that "Article 8 of the Electoral Commission in Kurdistan, requires the region to appoint polling station staff representatives of political entities contrary to international standards." ...     abangjadul: kurd iraq=art140+art8 sharing hcl ...rate :)
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abangjadul: we are watching with interest the changes and developments that have taken place on the national scene in particular and the world in general, as well as through the experiences of countries that have achieved success as economic application of policies and adopted macroeconomic stability and high investment rates without searching the details of these policies from one country to another that By integrating into the global economy gradually and selectively and strategically created a boom in economic growth.

abangjadul: all good news arounds...woww

abangjadul: Al-Rawi said that the advantages and disadvantages of openness to foreign investment are based on two interests that are mutually beneficial to the investor and the interest of the host country for investment.

Therefore, if foreign investment is not organized in a manner that preserves the social and economic interests of the country, this investment will be in favor of international capital.

abangjadul: "the ministry has succeeded in transferring the powers of directorates to local governments in the provinces, in order to provide the best services for the segments covered by the Labor and Social Affairs Act, as well as Law 11 of 2014, which is one of the most important achievements of the ministry to eliminate the problem of poverty,

He explained that " After the implementation of the law on the transfer of powers to the provinces, the ministry is keen on the success of this trend and show assistance and cooperation with local governments for the completion of that,

"noting that" the law was completed the Authority for the care of disabled people and special needs, including 959 civilians and military in Wasit paid them monthly salaries , And we expect to increase the financial allocations for the Ministry within the next financial budget to be covered {676} thousand citizens in all governorates of the law of social protection

abangjadul: how much longer they need to open their new rate to the world ...next month ...next year eh??

Whitelions: The meeting with the Kurdish delegation is witnessing a frank and in-depth dialogue that will bring about an agreement that will preserve unity......... Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi met with the Kurdish political delegation that was presented to Baghdad.

 "The joint efforts between the federal government and the region in the battle for the liberation of Mosul and the importance of completing the liberation of all Iraqi territory from the gangs of terror advocates," the meeting said.

He added that "the meeting witnessed a frank and in-depth dialogue on the need to activate mechanisms to resolve the outstanding problems and positive atmosphere," stressing that "an agreement has been to continue constructive dialogue and serious to achieve the common interests of the Iraqi people and remove the accumulated historical concerns and concerns, "He said.

Whitelions: Minister of Labor and Social Affairs Mohammad Shiaa al-Sudani announced on Monday during his visit to Wasit province the launch of the fourth installment of social protection network benefits before Eid al-Adha. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h2dXdF3H-BM/maxresdefault.jpg

"The ministry has succeeded in transferring the powers of the directorates to local governments in the presence of members of the House of Representatives, the First Deputy Governor and a number of members of the provincial council," the statement said.

In order to provide the best services for the segments covered by the Labor and Social Affairs Act, as well as Law 11 of 2014, which is one of the most important achievements of the Ministry to eliminate the problem of poverty, which is a major challenge to the government.

He added " After the implementation of the law on the transfer of powers to the provinces, the ministry is keen on the success of this trend and show assistance and cooperation with local governments for the completion of this, noting that there have been efforts in the past periods by the Social Protection Authority and the support of the Parliamentary Action Committee to resolve part of the problem of poverty and contribute to the completion of the project granting conditional subsidies , which it is hoped to be implemented later this year.

" the Sudanese on the completion of care of people with body disabilities and special needs of the law, as it included [959] civilian and military in Wasit spent their monthly salaries, and we expect to increase the financial allocations to the Ministry of Z N the next financial budget in order to be included [676] thousand citizens in all governorates of social protection law ".

Al-Sudani pointed out that the media campaign launched by some on the social security law of the private sector is a false campaign that does not know the positive aspects of the law. The law aims at activating the private sector by reducing the financial disparities bet

Whitelions: disparities between the government and private employees. from the private sector. " in turn praised the governor of Wasit on this visit , which contribute to the identification of the most important Wasit sons requirements and carried out by the ministry through its departments to work on improving the situation of people of the province affairs, returned them a good step is serious to find out the work Wazzar circles

And get acquainted with their humanitarian services to several segments of society, and as a gesture promote the improvement of services, subsidies and contributions by the departments concerned with the lives of many needy and disadvantaged segments.  
Nuthead: Couldn't think of a better name. Maybe I really am nuts
Doug_W: aren't we all
Nuthead: The naysayers claim we are chasing a dream and maybe we are. Eventually we will catch it

Nuthead: What do y'all think about the info someone said that Kuwait is doing good a currency swap with Iraq? Is that possible?

D-HB: elaborate more on currency swap nut

chattels: Kurdistani referendum delegation meets Abadi, Iranian officials in Baghdad http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/15082017

Nuthead: I read somewhere on another site that Iraq is swapping dinar with Kuwait for their money and also 3 other countries. They said Saudi Arabia was kneeling of them.

Nuthead: They think they are doing this under some kind of agreement. Don't know if that makes sense to my mind. Maybe this true

Nuthead: Maybe it's a misunderstanding

D-HB: swapping in what way? iqd for kwd?

Nuthead: Yes

D-HB: dont know how or why that would work

Nuthead: That didn't make sense to me either. Never heard of it before

Nuthead: What about the ch7 announcement by Abadi? Was that real last week or fudged??
Nuthead: Been seeking some substantial facts from all the hearsay

D-HB: depends on who you want to listen to and/or believe nut

chattels: KDP will not fill vacant posts in Baghdad By Mahmood Y. Kurdi

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/140820174

Nuthead: I want the truth. Not sure who I can believe anymore after being made out to be a fool by okie 6 years ago. I have a hard time trusting any because most who post today were connected with him back then.
Doug_W: @Nuthead stay here and U will get it

Nuthead: I seen an article about the Kurds trying to get Baghdad to implement article 140 for them to leave the referendum alone.

Nuthead: Sahlani: Kurdish delegation is trying to persuade the government to waive the referendum in exchange for the application of Article 140 Parliamentarian Helal al-Sahlani revealed on Tuesday the Kurdish political delegation's attempt to persuade the central government to waive the proposed referendum in areas outside the borders of Kurdistan, in exchange for guarantees and guarantees for the implementation of Article 140.

 He warns of an international, regional and local conflict. "The Kurdish delegation is trying to convince the central government that it is possible to waive the draft referendum in areas outside the borders of Kurdistan, in exchange for taking guarantees and guarantees to implement Article 140 of the disputed areas, including Kirkuk," Sahlani said in a statement received by Mawazine News.

"There is no explicit provision in the Iraqi constitution that speaks of the referendum and the right to self-determination. Neighboring countries oppose the referendum and the independence of Kurdistan," he said. He explained that "Article 8 of the Electoral Commission in Kurdistan, obliges the Territory to appoint polling station staff representatives of political entities contrary to international standards.

" The Sahlani, that "in the event of the Kurds insist on holding the referendum, especially in the disputed areas, including Kirkuk, there will be an international conflict, regional and local." http://www.mawazin.net/%D8%A7%.....9%8A%D8%A9

D-HB: Nut I just take some comfort in knowing that ALL of these gurus are being watched in some way by higher ups. IF they are being sinister in any way with this, they will be held accountable in the end(possible pun intended? :lie ;toliet :laugh )


Nuthead: Lol

chattels: @Nuthead Sahlani is a Turkman for what that is worth.

Rich1: OK I decided to change my name. No more Nuthead. This will be my permanent name. I decided I didn't like the way that name sounded. This one is much better. Lol
Rich1: I will check back later. Hopefully we will find some substantial news today that will change the course of the RV search into an RV finding

chattels: House of Representatives approves the provincial elections law and excludes Kirkuk

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=64886

chattels: Parliament votes to hold special vote with general and outside military units

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=64885

chattels: Parliament votes on the continuation of the work of the provincial councils until a new election http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=64884

chattels: in the parliament session: We reject any foreign forces in Iraq

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=64882

chattels: Iraq is long on pride and short on sense.

Spectra: OF COURSE THEY WANT NO FOREIGN PRESENCE!

Spectra: What country does????
Spectra: but their whole moatary system is being ran by the IMF! now that is true foreign entanglement!
Spectra: now that's the irony of it!

chattels: @Spectra Japan and South Korea readily come to mind.

Spectra: true
Spectra: next on the hit list will be Venezuela watch!

chattels: @Spectra Kuwait I would think.

Spectra: Trump is already mumbling about invasion in that country now??
Spectra: kuwait ? Maybe im not thinking in the same terms! please exsplain

chattels: @Spectra Welcoming a US military presence.

Spectra: oh 'yes they did but they were very scared and very small country too

chattels: @Spectra Kurdistan

Spectra: ok i got you !

chattels: @Spectra Iraq should be " scared " and it is about the size of Texas I think.

Rich1: Venezuela's president is preparing "militarily" for Trump's threats Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has called for military training after US President Donald Trump threatened a possible military intervention in his country, but Maduro said he still wanted talks with Trump.

While Maduro called on his supporters in Caracas on Monday to prepare for an "imperialist" invasion, US Vice President Mike Pence sought to allay fears in the region about Trump's statements and promised a peaceful solution to the Venezuelan crisis.

Maduro is struggling with an economic collapse at home and an increase in isolation abroad, while Trump's comments are used to reiterate his accusations that Washington is preparing for a military attack on his country. Maduro urged his supporters to join a two-day operation on August 26-27 with the participation of civilians and military personnel and said: "Everyone must join the defense plan, millions of men and women.
Thousands of government supporters rallied in Caracas, condemning Trump's "military option" to resolve Venezuela's crisis. More than 120 people have been killed in unrest in Venezuela since April, fueled by anger at the lack of medicines and foodstuffs, as well as the formation of a constituent assembly condemned by governments around the world as a dictatorship.

 Maduro said Trump's advisors gave him an incorrect picture of the real situation in Venezuela. "I want to talk on the phone with Mr. Trump ... to tell him that they are deceiving you, Trump. All they tell you about Venezuela is a lie, they are pushing you from the top of the cliff."

Spectra: After the kuwat war, Someone who owned a beautiful villa in kuwait decorated it with a miniture statue of libery ..To thank us!i seen the home is very unusual..!

chattels: @Spectra With its 32,585,692 people, Iraq is the 39th largest country in the world by population. It is the 59th largest country in the world by area with 438,317 square kilometers.

Spectra: intresting , it is sizable

MichelleL: 268,597 mi² area of texas, 168,754 mi² area of iraq - didn't you know Texas is bigger than iraq chattels? ROFL

Spectra: in population !
chattels: @MichelleL Texas is bigger than everything, eh ?

MichelleL: lol chattels, thats what they always tell me
MichelleL: of course, chattels, Texans are the ones who say its so big - that may be a distorted qualifier

Spectra: @chattels true cali is big too but long
Spectra: @chattels people dont realize how big cali is

chattels: @MichelleL Similar square miles

MichelleL: around 100,000 less miles than texas according to that, 5000 less than iraq

MichelleL: Spectra, I HATE california, but even they have some charm lol

chattels: @Spectra

http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_size_comparison_or_iraq_using_a_us_state_or_the_us

chattels: @MichelleL California I mean.

chattels: But California's economy is the sixth largest in the world.
chattels: And California's budget is about three times the size of Iraq.

Spectra: @chattels wow

MichelleL: @chattels Californias debt is how much the size of Texas' debt?

chattels: @MichelleL I do not kno.w that
chattels: @MichelleL know*

MichelleL: @chattels lol 5 to 10 times
MichelleL: @chattels so California wins ROFL 
​chattels: @MichelleL California owes 1.3 trillion
hattels hair is nice and big, thought about going natural today but I don't want to scare my cat

MichelleL: Saw that chattels

chattels: @MichelleL 341 billion for texas
MichelleL: thats like 25% the debt of CA chattels lol

chattels: @MichelleL May explain why Californians are moving to Texas in droves.
MichelleL: yup, they wanna increase our debt chattels lol
chattels: @MichelleL Assimilation could change the cultural and political landscape of Texas

MichelleL: @chattels they are destroying our real estate market, driving prices up all over but in my neck of the woods :laugh
chattels: @MichelleL Rut Roh ! :)

MichelleL: @chattels if we become another nyc, or la, I'm moving to a cabin in the middle of the woods
chattels: @MichelleL You can move to Carolina. " Big " hair here is big :)

MichelleL: I can't find something that would have been 75k in the country for a weekend place 3 years ago - now they're going for over 200k.
MichelleL: lol chattels, I love the carolinas - pretty, green, east, etc

MichelleL: how are the real estate taxes? I love TN too, very pretty, as is Arkansas, but I don't want to deal with snow anymore

MichelleL: Smokey Mtns, Ozarks, all great for vacation homes, but unfortunately too far for a commute - and I don't think my husband will ever leave TX for anything other than Sedona (where are those stinkin dinars?)

chattels: @MichelleL Taxes are fairly reasonable, but there is a state income tax unlike Tennessee

MichelleL: we have none here too chattels - however, if there is no income, there is no taxes lol - do they tax cap gains there?
chattels: This day in 1945 (August 14-15), Empire of Japan surrenders, which marks the end of World War II.

MichelleL: how many days after Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

chattels: @MichelleL Yes, at least for Federal Income Tax purposes.

MichelleL: got it, a week

MichelleL: On August 6, 1945, during World War II (1939-45), an American B-29 bomber dropped the world's first deployed atomic bomb over the Japanese city of Hiroshima. The explosion wiped out 90 percent of the city and immediately killed 80,000 people; tens of thousands more would later die of radiation exposure.
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MichelleL: Fed taxes are here too, for cap gains, but do you pay state cap gains taxes there? in retirement thats pretty much our only income other than social security and 401k etc

chattels: Mustafa Salim‏ @Mustafa_salimb 6h6 hours ago Iraqi joint operations command: Tal Afar offensive hasn't started yet. Forces are preparing and waiting the orders from the prime minister.
https://twitter.com/Mustafa_salimb?lang=en

chattels: @MichelleL Not sure. Been awhile since I had a capital gain :)

MichelleL: @chattels lol you went all in on the Dinars - sorry to say

chattels: @MichelleL I have had some capital losses :)

chattels: @MichelleL True, my lot is cast with the Iraqi currency.

MichelleL: do you get to write off losses in this venture chattels?

chattels: @MichelleL Nobody has accused me of being very smart lately :)

MichelleL: lol
MichelleL: think bitcoin hahaha made 80 bucks on 100 in 3 weeks

chattels: @MichelleL I really have no idea. Not a tax guy.

MichelleL: nope, 73, its coming down, knew I should have sold last night
chattels: @MichelleL My wife and I bought our first piece of bitcoin yesterday.
MichelleL: congratulations! I own .042 bitcoin hahaha

chattels: @MichelleL Or should I say a " bit " of bitcoin ?
MichelleL: very little bit it seems

Tebow: fakecoin

MichelleL: I was wondering if I should buy more, but silver is something I hold

chattels: @MichelleL We have 3/4.
MichelleL: you bought a whole 3/4 chattels? thats huge

chattels: @MichelleL Siiver coinage is next on the " investment / speculation " radar.

MichelleL: yesterday that was like 3k
MichelleL: I've been doing around 100-200 a month when I can this past several months, chattels
MichelleL: very pretty

chattels: @MichelleL Oops, less than half. About $ 1,700 worth.
MichelleL: got it - so around 1/3-1/2 a bitcoin
chattels: @MichelleL Yes.

tman23: Iraq’s Economy and Security on Brink of Collapse.........

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/reports/371069

SayMyName: Oh boy
SayMyName: @tman23 Smoke and mirrors lol

tman23: @SayMyName .......Lot of posturing.....But no doubt Kurdistan is in better shape

tman23: @SayMyName .....Commenting on the economic situation in Iraq, member of Parliamentary Committee for Financial Affairs, Majid Tamimi, told BasNews that the rate of poverty was estimated to be at 22% in 2014, and it raised to 41% by 2016.

The lawmaker blamed Iraqi government’s “failed policies” for the high rate of poverty which has severely affected the southern provinces in particular. “Despite oil and internal revenues, Iraq’s national debt is over $111 billion,” Tamimi said.

Comparing the economic situation between Kurdistan Region and Iraq, Ahmed Haji Rashid, a Kurdish MP and head of the Parliamentary Committee for Economy and Financial Affairs, said that Kurdistan Region is in a much better situation compared to the rest of Iraq.

He explained to BasNews that even though Erbil must pay 12% interest for its international loans — whereas Baghdad pays only 3%, the Kurdistan Region is enjoying a steady development towards an independent economy from Iraq.

SayMyName: @tman23 12% vs 3%. That's quite a dramatic difference.

tman23: @SayMyName ......Sure is !! Yet Kurdistan is ahead...... Baghdad couldn't manage a pay toilet with an attendant.....

Doug_W: at 25cents a pop
Doug_W: or is that poop?

tman23: @Doug_W ..... they would kill each other over who owns the hole the toilet sits on...... have to form a committee to oversee the committee to come to a conclusion.....

IN THE COMING DAYS .......... In the meantime order a few russian t90 tanks to protect the toilet and the 100 dinars it generates per day.......

Doug_W: YAWN .......... ya I agree

Rich1: Maliki sought political asylum in Russia  Tuesday: August 15,
Doug_W: got a link to that Rich ?

ElmerFudd: @Rich1 Ooops! He knows he's in trouble!

Brow: Today on Nesara site-They Posted a Article on John MCcain & What a Sorry @$$ he was & Is- The Way He treated His & Family- Mccain KILLED 134 Sailors & Injured 164 Blowning off their Arms,Legs & Burning them to a Crisp & more
tman23: A delegation representing Kurdistan's upcoming independence referendum organisers said they held a "hopeful" meeting with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on Monday, ahead of September's controversial vote. The delegation Erbil MPs arrived in Baghdad on Monday with six weeks to go until a vote on whether the Kurdish region should split from Iraq.

"We said to Haider al-Abadi that the Kurdistani nation has arrived at the belief to hold a referendum for independence, and this is because they are not certain of their future in Iraq. We are still concerned and fear that war will break out," Saadi Pira, a member of the delegation to Baghdad told Rudaw after the talks.

"The meeting was very hopeful. Abadi said that the Kurdistan Region has economic and political independence and the Peshmerga who have not carried the Iraqi flag," Pira added. The prime minister's office confirmed Monday's meeting in a statement calling the dialogue "open and profound", adding that discussions were held about how to resolve outstanding problems.

ElmerFudd: @Brow I saw that. I'm surprised that he's not in jail.

Brow: John MCcain Got Many Pilots Killed in Vietnam By giving the Cons the Maneuvers of the USA Pilots so the Cons could Shoot them Down - John MCcain Took The Life of American Solders so He could Live- The Cons Called John MCcain The Singing Canary

Brow: @ElmerFudd - Nixon Pardon John MCcain for War Crimes & Treason-MCcain Grandfather & Father are Generals To

tman23: @Brow ....McCain admitted he broke........and he never thought he would never !! I will not condemn a man for breaking under torturous conditions...... Quite frankly no one knows their limit until that limit is met

Brow: @ElmerFudd - John MCcain Had a Free pass To come back to the USA when he was a POW but Pride got in his Way & ended up in Killing Many Americans

Brow: @tman23 -Yea A Real AMERICAN HERO-RIGHT!!!!!

Spectra: @Brow lol ;Spectra:

BREW: @Spectra GM..............BROW GM...........

Spectra: @Brow Mc Cain is despicable

Rich1: http://awajelpress.com/%D9%81%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D9%8A-%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%88%D8%A1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%8A-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B1%D9%88/%C2%A0%C2%A0  Tuesday: August 15,

Spectra: @Brow no hero .no mentor to the youth what has he done to enrich this country -----NOTHING ...!

BREW: @Rich1 IS THAT SOME SORT OF CODE.

Spectra: @Brow MC Cain is not admired by the majority in the military!
Spectra: @Brow Th majority of vet's despise him

Rich1: That's the Link to the article about maliki seeking asylum

BREW: @Rich1 OK, TY.
Brow: @BREW - GM

Rich1: Somebody find me a golden nugget of information promising a soon arrival of the RV baby. Lol

Doug_W: @Rich1 thanks Rich

Brow: @Rich1 - There is No animal like that around

Brow: @Rich1 - Iraq is Corrupt & Full of Deceit-It's all Blow & No Go at this Time
Brow: @Rich1 - The RV is like The Obamacare Repeal & Replace
Brow: @Rich1 - Been talking about for Years-Just talk
RickeyT: this has turned into a fools quest for riches

Brow: @RickeyT - A shame isn't it-But the Truth It's always been a Fools Quest- People are just now waking Up To the Facts.

Brow: @RickeyT - It's not a Overnight Deal it may be Years ? if Ever
carpediem: Your dinar will still be worth something but not overnight - it doesn't work that way.
Brow: @RickeyT - Hoping for the End of Year or 2018 is what I'm Thinking

carpediem: There will not be a date. If I may remind peeps what I wrote a few days ago - 'The RV will NOT go the way people on this site HOPE it will. What! You walk into a bank / exchange centre and come out a millionaire / billionaire. Get real it will never happen.

The Dinar will cross borders, become International, initially lose some value, then equilibrium / market forces will take control and you will see the value of the Dinar rise - The True value.'

Brow: @carpediem - True-So are you saying maybe years from Now ?

carpediem: Who knows how long it will take to get to 1 to 1 after it becomes international. 1 year? 2 years? 3 years? ...........

carpediem: It will be up to the currency holder when they will cash in, whether it will be cents or wait for the bigger numbers.
Brow: @carpediem - Won't take that long- May even RV at 1 to 1 or More

carpediem: @Brow Not a hope in ********
Brow: @carpediem - Now how do you Know this ?

Foxmulder: @carpediem the rate will go where ever the CBI SETS IT AT

Brow: @Foxmulder - True
Brow: @Foxmulder - The Talk is 1 for 1 at this time with Iraq

Foxmulder: @Brow anything that is compareable to thei neighbors is fine with me

Brow: @Foxmulder - Maybe like Kawait

Foxmulder: @Brow that would be nice but as you said 1 to 1 does make sense all they know at the moment is the dollar

Brow: @Foxmulder - True
Brow: @Foxmulder _ Iraq just has a lot of Mopping Up to do before they can Do anything I Believe

Cree: morning all

Brow: @Foxmulder - Like Cleaning House

Foxmulder: Not what is the de iding factir is . But i really think they can move whenever they want but thats my opinion

Cree: @Brow Gret news = got a call from a friend who told me he spoke to Chris Hannerman and she said the RV would be in a day or two..... Chris use to have some sort of CC with someone called Blaino? I do not believe it and do not believe Chris ( I use to =know her), but thought you all would want a laugh -or to get your dinar out.....

tman23: .....American Contractor......After reading the IMF report there is nothing new or earth shattering. In the history of the IMF reporting, they have never been right. The Iraqi government does not trust the IMF. However, it does not stop the government from accepting the IMFs money in difficult times.

If you reflect back at the history of the IMF you will notice that they have been putting out inaccurate information for quite some time. I AGREE.....AND AS I SAID......THE IMF, 2% ARTICLE VIII.......BLAH BLAH BLAH......YAWN....BLAH !!

Foxmulder: @tman23 oh please this guy comes out of the woodwork every 1 or 2 yrs with this and has been for the las10 yrs lol

Cree: @Foxmulder SS is suppose to go out of money somewhere in the 2030's. When that happens, what it means is the gov will be taking in less money then they will need each month. Those on SS will get something like a 25% decrease in payments.... Once that happens, who knows what will happen....

clay: @Foxmulder yep I remember him

tman23: American Contractor....The CBI is promoting a campaign to increase the number of foreign and international banks in Iraq, with a window that will close in 2020. One might be curious about the year 2020...wonder what is going to happen in that year? .....

ONE THING THAT WILL HAPPEN IS ALAK'S 5 YEARS WILL BE SEPT 2019.....AND HE WILL BE REPLACED........

Cree: @tman23 Are you saying ths FAKE NEWS? Surprising

Foxmulder: @Cree IF they regulated it to only people who really put money in and stop all the flow of money to those who dont it would be ok

Foxmulder: @Cree but there are folks who really need the help and i have no problem with that

Cree: @Foxmulder agreed, the way it works now, is they take in the SS payments and pay off those receiving SS. Any excess Congress spends.... So we are all eventually screwed

Foxmulder: @Cree ya well ya got me there lmao

Cree: @Foxmulder Also percentage wise, SS is set up so the less you put in, again percentage wise, the more you get..

Cree: @Foxmulder Basically these days it is a ponsi scheme with Congress ripping us off - and no one is fixing it....

Cree: @Foxmulder I think Congress owes the SS Fund over $3.x trillion dollars.....

Cree: @Foxmulder If you or I stled that much money, we would go to jail.... In Congress the results is they get free healht care

Cree: Hey , everyone - think of it - we are friends here, who really do not know who each of us are and who will most likely, never meet..... - Strange world isn't it

Foxmulder: @Cree yep pretty strange  
​Spectra: just because he was a contractor over there does not make him a authority on Iraq!

RickeyT: @Spectra if thing are upside down there, then things are normal, it is their culture

Spectra: @Cree im not going to spend my day bashing the guy if thats what you mean

Cree: @Foxmulder Thank you !! I take that as a compliment - Stopped being normal years ago - no fun being normal

Spectra: @RickeyT lol,but the whole world is actually upside down ..you know this!

RickeyT: @Spectra I do, and it will get much worse, soon
Spectra: @Cree lol ibut what is noramal is your own personal perception to a certain point

Cree: @Spectra so true!!! Normal is a state of mind.....
Cree: @Spectra So if the world is upside down, I will need to go to Africa or South America to be right side up????
RickeyT: @Cree so is security

Spectra: @RickeyT but perhaps! I will try not too focas too much on the negativity .
Spectra: @RickeyT I Am aware ! but will not let it fester!

Cree: @Spectra my strange points of view are actually my sense of humor to fight negativity and frustration

Spectra: @Cree that's good i do it all the time!

RickeyT: we as a country had it but our leaders are allowing it to slip thru our fimders. frustrating

Spectra: @Cree we all have a drama of a sorts in our own life aside from Iraq!
Spectra: @RickeyT i know!
Cree: @Spectra true
Cree: @Spectra I prefer any drama with a bagel and cream cheese (toasted bagel)
Spectra: @Cree i say life is a carosaul ride

30 minute phone call with a Federal Reserve representative today

~NEWS FLASH~ AdminBill's Tuesday Intel Update! 8/15/17

WE CONTINUE TO BE IN A "USEFUL INFORMATION" VOID.


I SUSPECT THAT THE VETTING OF THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF GROUP AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WITH LARGER THAN LARGE HOLDINGS AND CURRENCY PACKAGES FOR MAJOR GROUPS IS TAKING FAR LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED. THAT INCLUDES THOSE THAT WILL BE HANDLING THE FUNDING OF INSTITUTIONS WHERE THE GENERAL POPULATION TRANSACTIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED. 


SUCH A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING IS SIMPLY MIND BLOWING TO ME AND I WOULD RATHER THEY BE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME THAN BE REQUIRED TO CORRECT MISTAKES DURING THE PROCESS. 


HOW MUCH LONGER IS ANYBODIES GUESS AND I AM NOT ONE THAT IS PREPARED TO SPECULATE SO I AM SIMPLY LIVING LIFE AS THE EVENT IS SOME DISTANCE AWAY WITH THE HOPE IT IS SOON.

DollarBill9 wrote:  AB I take it that you believe there is exchange of some sort going on at present


 Not necessarily. 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

8-15-2017   Intel Guru RayRen98    [If this doesn’t happen in August, will it go to 2018.]  If it doesn’t happen in August, I will jump to September.  I don’t see why people are anticipating next year when there four more months in 2017!

8-15-2017   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
  Article:  "Anti-money laundering, terrorist financing, compliance and risk management training program"    [More of the IMF compliance...its good to see the...(sense of urgency)].    Exactly... the CBI is doing what the IMF is telling them to do.   


8-15-2017   Intel/Newshound Guru American Contractor   ...the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) has set a grade and rated some (not all) of their private government banks, to include currency exchange business centers.   Iraq banks with less than 17% of the points have to address their shortcoming within three (3) months or they are suspended from participating in the foreign currency auctions.  The highest rated banks receive a higher share of participation in the foreign currency auctions.  ...the Iraq banking industry is lacking in several categories. Hopefully, they will improve over time.  On the streets of Iraq, rumor has it that a U.S. Bank is looking to enter the Iraqi market and open a branch in Baghdad.  And no, it is not Bank of America (BoA).  They left a long time ago (2004) and haven't returned.  Currently, there are 140 banking and financial institutions, including 6 government, 24 private and Islamic and 63 financial companies.  The CBI is promoting a campaign to increase the number of foreign and international banks in Iraq, with a window that will close in 2020.  One might be curious about the year 2020...wonder what is going to happen in that year?   [post 4 of 4]

8-15-2017   Intel/Newshound Guru American Contractor   The IMF (International Monetary Fund) recently published “Article IV Consultation, Second Review, Aug 2017.”  After reading the IMF report there is nothing new or earth shattering. In the history of the IMF reporting, they have never been right. The Iraqi government does not trust the IMF. However, it does not stop the government from accepting the IMFs money in difficult times.   If you reflect back at the history of the IMF you will notice that they have been putting out inaccurate information for quite some time.  

Dinarland Highlights Short Update

Restored Republic via a GCR as of Aug. 15 2017

Compiled 12:25 am EDT 15 Aug. 2017 by Judy Byington

A. Aug. 14 2017 6:05 pm EDT GCR Intel Situation Report: "Nothin'" - GCR/RV Intel SITREP - Monday - August 14, 2017

1. Players in this RV seem to be sitting back, waiting out all the nonsense to end so they can implement the readied financial reforms safely.

2. On Aug. 21st a rare astrological window closes (or opens depending on how you look at it). We're now fully in Mercury Retrograde as of Friday night Aug. 18, which is a time for personal review and the cleaning up old business.

3. At some point, the NPTB must turn the switch on and alert us with a few helpful emails, a robo call or two and that will be it. The RV begins. We exchange, and the real work begins.

4. HSBC is Idol. All the major banks are idol. World markets have been collared from their apex down to zenith in terms of trading volume and value swings. The media is controlled from the senior editors down to the on-air personalities.

5. The IMF is humming today Aug. 14 with an internal ZIM redemption program designed to refill their own coffers with transactional fees. It's not a public exchange opportunity.

6. A sign we're still inching along? Sure. A testimony the ZIM bond note is valued internationally at a minimum currency exchange of 1:1? Yes.

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B. Aug. 14 2017 8:00 am EDT GCR Intel Situation Report: "Zimsanity" - GCR/RV Intel SITREP - Monday - August 14, 2017

1. One of two VP's of Zimbabwe was poisoned and we believed murdered yesterday Aug. 13. Clearly it was an assignation attempt upon the next perceived Zimbabwe President, who two weeks earlier announced the gold standard for the ZIM currency.http://www.herald.co.zw/gold-reserves-to-back-currency/ https://zimbabwe-today.com/zimbabwe-vice-president-emmerson-mnangagwa-poisoned-critical-condition/

2. Zimbabwe is the lynchpin nation/currency/bond. This was a targeted strike prior to public release of the collateral accounts intake of foreign Zimbabwe sovereign debt (aka your ZIm bond notes/currency).

3. Not coincidentally, later tonight into early morning of Aug. 15, the IMF starts in-taking ZIM bond notes/currency at 1:1 via buy back accounts in Bank of China. That means ZIM redemptions are open for business worldwide.

4. Sometime this week it sure will make for one hell of a geopolitical fireworks finale, including but not limited to Trump, Netanyahu, Madero and Poroshenko.

5. Cabal hold overs are thrashing around. There's no place to go for relief, no allies to turn to, no fiat money to steal, no false flag chaos events to distract from the truth of their immanent extermination. They'd rather die with the con, so Elders/ Chinese/ Russians/ Americans are sitting back and letting them tire themselves out.

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C. Aug. 14 2017 10:12 pm EDT KTFA News: "Oh Man are we Close" - Mon. PM KTFA

Thoughts/News Over the last five days we have seen many very attractive things in the press regarding Iraq and the IQD:

1. PM Abadi announced he was leaving the Dawa party (and disassociating himself with Maliki who was in the same party).

2. An announcement that PM Abadi was opening a 'Deep Investigation' into the fall of Mosul, and of the Speicher massacre ("M" comes to mind).

3. PM Abadi announced the forming of his own party.

4. The US White House Announces full support of a new Iraqi Govt, Led by PM Abadi. (ie the Trump Administration has full confidence in Dr. Haider al-Abadi to continue as PM of Iraq, and pretty much a no-confidence vote for the current parliament).

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D. Aug. 14 2017 10:25 pm EDT Fulford Report: "US Threats to North Korea Linked to Global Reboot" - Fulford Report - 8.14.17

1. Us threats to North Korea linked to bankruptcy negotiations and global reboot.

2. The United States of America Corp., which defaulted on its debt payments on May 1 2017, has been threatening war against North Korea as a negotiating tactic with its creditors. Its main creditor, China, has been calling the corporation's bluff by promising to protect North Korea in the event it is unilaterally attacked. At the same time, the Chinese have been staging limited military actions on their border with India, reminding the Americans they have the technical ability to take over that 1.3 billion person country within a matter of months, if it came to war. The Chinese have also said they will not protect North Korea in the event they strike the first blow.

3. At the same time, the Russians and the Pentagon have informed the Israelis they will be attacked if they try to launch a nuclear missile from one of their submarines and make it look like North Korea did it, Pentagon and Russian FSB sources say. This has effectively checkmated any Khazarian mafia attempts to start World War 3 because any attempt to do so will affect only them. They are no longer able to fool us into starting a war.

4. If the Americans decide to use tariffs and trade barriers to cut off Chinese imports and end the Chinese trade surplus with the US, there will be many third order consequences, most of them very bad for the US. The US would suffer a sharp drop in living standards and would become a pariah in global trade.

5. The plan remains to remove all final vestiges of Khazarian mob rule in the US. "Trump is ready for all out war on the [Washington] DC swamp after firing leaker and Paul Ryan ally Rence Priebus," Pentagon sources say.

6. There are also many other signs the swamp is being drained of the Satan worshipping Khazarians, the sources say. Now that the top Khazarian henchmen like the Clintons and John McCain have been removed, lower level functionaries are being fired.

7. To replace Khazarian control, the Pentagon, Russians and Chinese have formed a big three alliance, sources in all three camps agree.

8. The big three are also pushing for peace in the Korean peninsula so that a North-South Korean rail link can be set up and the over $10 trillion worth of minerals in North Korea can be put to use, the sources say.

9. There is also heavy pressure to end the fighting in Afghanistan so that nation's mineral wealth can also be put to work for bettering people's lives.

10. There are also high level negotiations going on now between Canada and North Korea, Canadian government sources say. The North Koreans are conveying to the Canadians an Asian secret society offer to finance a leveraged buy-out of the US Corporate Government, sources close to the negotiations say.

11. US military and intelligence community white hats support the idea of a unified North America with a competent democratic government in charge.

12. As the Sept. 30th fiscal deadline for the US corporate government approaches, we can make it happen. It is time to drain the DC swamp and then go after their P2 Freemason black sun worshipping overlords.

KTFA UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

Richard:  Are there notes from the call last night? I have no way to listen is why I ask.  

FrostyTheSnowman:  Sorry, no highlights from last night's CC.

Each week Frank pours his heart out to teach us, but on last Monday's (two Monday's ago) conference call, he mentioned that if people were solely relying on Frosty's highlights, they were missing about 60% of the information.

At that percentage, that's a failing grade in any school I ever attended.

I wish I had the time to rewind the tape several times to do a full transcript, but I don't ... and even when Randy was doing the full transcripts, I think he would agree with me that it's impossible to convey all of the important voice inflections and visual cues that Frank gives.

IMO - no need to worry ... we are so very close to the end ... and as Frank once said, "good soldiers know when to fade (melt) away."
 
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From the CC:

McDan:  currency swaps

ATMs to be loaded and activated simultaneously

crossing the bridge to Art 8

filling in the gaps

National and international reconciliation

The New Rate Revealed very soon

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Walkingstick:  Sahlani: Kurdish delegation is trying to persuade the government to waive the referendum in exchange for the application of Article 140
 
Parliamentarian Helal al-Sahlani revealed on Tuesday the Kurdish political delegation's attempt to persuade the central government to waive the proposed referendum in areas outside the borders of Kurdistanin exchange for guarantees and guarantees for the implementation of Article 140. He warns of an international, regional and local conflict.

"The Kurdish delegation is trying to convince the central government that it is possible to waive the draft referendum in areas outside the borders of Kurdistan, in exchange for taking guarantees and guarantees to implement Article 140 of the disputed areas, including Kirkuk," Sahlani said in a statement received by Mawazine News.

"There is no explicit provision in the Iraqi constitution that speaks of the referendum and the right to self-determination. Neighboring countries oppose the referendum and the independence of Kurdistan," he said.

He explained that "Article 8 of the Electoral Commission in Kurdistan, obliges the Territory to appoint polling station staff representatives of political entities contrary to international standards."

The Sahlani, that "in the event of the Kurds insist on holding the referendum, especially in the disputed areas, including Kirkuk, there will be an international conflict, regional and local."

http://www.mawazin.net/%D8%A7%.....9%8A%D8%A9

KTFA Monday Night Conference Call, 15 AUGUST

DLR:  "Find something you love to do and you'll never have to work a day in your life." — Harvey Mackay

KTFA Monday Night Conference Call

The first part is Business Promo and the second part is Dinar/Iraq Intel

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TISHWASH UPDATE FROM TNT FORUM, 15 AUGUST

Tishwash:  International Monetary Fund praised Iraq’s actions to achieve comprehensive economic development

August 15, 2017

The International Monetary Fund on Tuesday praised the government’s measures aimed at achieving comprehensive economic development through controlling and reducing spending, encouraging investment and going to the private sector as well as serious steps towards maximizing its non-oil revenues in order to avoid or reduce the budget deficit by moving away from total dependence on oil as a basic resource.

However, the Fund revealed through its indicators of the overall financial and economic situation in Iraq for the period from 2013 to 2022 the arrival of the size of the public debt to Iraq to 122.9 billion dollars, which constitutes 63.8% of the gross domestic product, expected to reach public debt in 2018 to 132 4. The Fund’s expectations continue to reach 132.9 in 2022.
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UNFPA, through the Executive Directors’ assessment on the margins of the conclusion of the IV Article IV Executive Board with Iraq, welcomed the policies set by the Iraqi Government to deal with the shocks of armed conflict with ISIS and the humanitarian crisis resulting from the waves of displacement and its aftermath, as well as the second shock of falling crude prices.

The outlook for growth in Iraq is positive in the medium term. Growth will be driven by the moderate increase in oil production, the recovery of non-oil growth, supported by the expected improvement in security conditions, and the implementation of structural reform measures.

CEOs applauded the fiscal achievement of 2016, albeit slower than the program, due to poor monitoring of investment spending and expenditure pressures imposed by the military campaign against Isis and assistance to internally displaced persons and refugees. Managers welcomed the achievement of most of this fiscal discipline by cutting capital expenditure Efficiency while protecting social spending.

Directors also welcomed the adoption of the 2017 Supplementary Budget and the Government’s commitment to further austerity measures in 2017-2018 to keep the program on track and to ensure the safety of the external center and to maintain the level of debt within sustainable limits, and stressed the need to create financial space to strengthen human capital and rebuild capital The low level of non-tax revenue and the extremely high level of public consumption would create a financial space to finance growth-supportive investments.

The IMF pointed to the appropriateness of the government’s procedures which were able to maintain the exchange rate system pegged to the US dollar. He stressed that with the central bank simplifying the documentation requirements, exchange rate differences compared to the parallel market narrowed to 6% in June 2017.

The IMF, in its assessment of the overall economic and financial situation in Iraq, stressed that although performance under the credit agreement was weak in some key areas, understandings were reached on corrective action to keep the program on track. Against this background, they urged managers to persevere in implementing the authorities’ program, including continued efforts to control public finances, strengthen the financial sector, implement structural reforms to encourage private sector activity and improve the business environment.

To strengthen stability in the financial sector, managers urged the government to take measures to strengthen supervision, move ahead with the restructuring of state-owned banks that control the banking system, and strengthen the central bank’s legal framework, And accelerate the implementation of measures against money laundering, financing of terrorism and combating corruption. Directors believed that the currency peg to the US dollar, which is the cornerstone of the economy, remains an appropriate system.

Directors also stressed the importance of implementing structural reforms to improve the investment climate, diversify the economy and achieve sustainable growth. They urged the authorities to undertake a comprehensive reform of public financial management, including the completion of a regular inventory, payment of arrears and improved commitment to expenditure and cash management to prevent the accumulation of new arrears.

Managers also emphasized the importance of addressing weaknesses in management capacity and data availability. In addition, the implementation of the budget-sharing agreement between the federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government would put the two governments in a better position to deal with shocks.

The International Monetary Fund revealed through its indicators of the overall financial and economic conditions in Iraq for the period from 2013 to 2022 on the arrival of the volume of public debt to Iraq to 122.9 billion dollars, which constitutes 63.8% of gross domestic product, expected to reach public debt in 2018 to 132.4 and continue to The fund forecast to reach 132.9 in 2022.   link

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Harambe:  CNBC: Oil prices dip again after sell-off fueled by weak China data, d​ollar strength https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/oil-prices-steady-after-overnight-tumb​le.html

Harambe:  Bloomberg: OPEC's Oil-Glut Fight Could Last Years https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-15/opec-s-oil-glut-fig​ht-morphs-from-skirmish-to-campaign-of-years

Harambe: Bloomberg: Shiite Iraq Cleric Key Player in Sunni Attempts to Curb Ira​n https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-08-14/shiite-iraq-lea​der-key-player-in-sunni-attempts-to-weaken-iran

Harambe:  CNBC: Oil prices steady after overnight tumble https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/oil-prices-steady-after-overnight-tumb​le.html

WSOMN CHAT, 15 AUGUST

TED1016:
Well, so much for the weekend now we sit here on Monday and as far as exchanging goes we are no better off than we were on Friday. OK while I am here I would like to make a comment to the member who stated “there has never been any creditable evidence that the RV would happen this weekend” Makes me kind of wonder if the person knew of a creditable source for the statement.

Not sure who others feel about this issue but to me to be a creditable source of information the person who is creditable would have to have factual proof that their creditable evidence was correct for a day and time the RV would happen (date and time) since we have no RV at this time the everyone’s projection has been wrong nothing but pure speculation. That’s OK member I will still pray for you.

Most Gracious and Heavenly Father we come her to night requesting guidance and protection form those people who are trying to mislead us into believing that their opinions are right so as to throw us off track as we continue in our faith that this will happen at a time of Your choosing thus reducing our spirit and causing disbelief to enter into our hearts.

Dear Lord God Almighty, at times we feel that we are stuck in a briar patch with the thorns of disbelief surrounding us and causing pain in our spirits for those who do not wish us well in this endeavor. Continue to watch over us Lord as we continue the battle between right and wrong. Thank you Lord for giving me the strength to sing your praises in three service today. Amen and Amen.

Sleep well my friends as we continue down the never seeming to end road to the completion of our goals. The dark one walks beside you throughout the day. Be aware and on guard against the forces of evil. continue with your prayers knowing that the Lord is with you and listening to every word.


 

Ray said last nite he doesnt expect anything before the 21 of August


 

How do we find out about Wazzup if there is no info for sign up that I can see?

ONTARIOGAL, GM. PM ADMIN......


 

WISH WE HAD SOME NEWS!

does anyopne have the link from adminBill (wazzup) ? If you would pm me with it I'd appreciate it. For some reason I never got his email with the link! THANKS


 

OWL, YOU NEED TO SEND ADMINBILL A PM REQUESTING THE LINK…

dp I sent him one which he said "sending soon (I never got it) So I sent him another pm this morning around 7am est. Still find nothing in my email??? anyway, let it be known IF it's ok to do, I'd like someone to send me a link. LATERS


 

EMAIL OR PM? HE MAY BE AT WORK AND SHOULD GET TO YOU AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE…I HEARD IT GOES OFFICIAL TOMORROW SO HE SHOULD GET TO YOU TODAY…

RAB wrote
15m ago
Wonderful news! Mr. Renfrow just told the listeners that he hoped Dr. Dinar's overt solicitations may not be needed much longer.


 

Anybody hear we went gold backed today? Heard a rumbling from FLA.

I've personally not heard a thing -besides a contact with a SKR saying so moments ago. We need to ck this out.

I know Trump signed a bill or two today and Munchien was standing in the background but that's it.


 

HELLO WSOMN: HANG IN THERE NO NEWS MAY BE GOOD NEWS THIS TIME AROUND. FOR THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE OFFICIALLY SIGNED UP WITH WASZZUP THERE IS A CALL COMING UP THIS EVENING SO YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM ME AND OUR GROUP LEADER. IF YOU HAVE NOT PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP.

I AM WORKING IN THE YARD AND WILL BE BACK IN SHORTLY BUT WILL FORWARD INFO TO THOSE THAT REQUESTED.

Admin - I hope it brings the much needed relief for many here


 

Sand I head that 2 weeks ago


 

OH there is someone that has nothing better to do with their lives than try bug us members. I'm thinking they are an existing member because they can see our usernames. Are you having fun yet?

I just the email notice for pw change


 

006 maybe most that are on right now probably got one or will soon.


 

hi dpchamp............sure did. This is my 2nd one...am I special? lol


 

YOU SURE ARE!!! I AM AFRAID THEY HAVE BEEN FLOATING AROUND FOR ABOUT A WEEK NOW…OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS DOING IT…PLEASE DELETE EMAIL AND DO NOT RESPOND!!


 

Yeah my first came about a week ago. I just ignore them. They interrupted my RV House Content shopping. I like using spreadsheets and being prepared. I think I have done this twice a year for the past 5 years....maybe this time soon I will be able to actually pay for the items. haha


 

Still...I think they are in already unless guests can see our usernames.

love oh could be! but why would they want us to change our passwords? to block us out? doesnt make sense to me

mine said I was trying to change my password and if it wasnt me to just ignore, came from activeboard...


 

still....it's like the jerk on Open Mic that is really rude and tries to cause trouble. This turkey is bored and is their way of bugging us. That's is what I am thinking.

oh well jerks are everywhere, may as get used to them lol


 

Just finished with Benny, we needed a good laugh. Diva just listen and enjoy.He an anti- guru guru




 

sand yes funny he doesnt believe in Zim..... never heard of Benny before


 

I never heard of him till one day he showed up on my YouTube feed, I laugh so much listening to him. Diva- zim imo is a long shot at best. Saw Blondie on Frank's chat a few minutes ago

Looks like Frank is going into entertaining mode for awhile before any intel begins.


 

Well according to Benny in between the bad language we r all gonna have heart attacks all the intel is false and the zim is worthless ! So we should listen to him and donate too ... I don't think so

Well imo the 1st part of that is always a possibility until shown otherwise. The last part - nope. lol


 

Well according to Benny in between the bad language we r all gonna have heart attacks all the intel is false and the zim is worthless ! So we should listen to him and donate too ... I don't think so !!!

Well imo the 1st part of that is always a possibility until shown otherwise. The last part - nope. lol

Hi Bigfeet and everyone... I just came in to see if any news. I'm not feeling very good tonight, it's been rough today. I'll be in later in the week ok,,, Good Night everyone


 

THANKS TO THE MANY WSOMN MEMBERS NOW PART OF THE WASZUPP GROUP THAT WERE ON TONIGHT'S CALL.