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Thursday, December 15, 2016

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 14 DEC

12-15-2016   Newshound Guru wmawhite   ...this is the ever evolving discussion about how best to control the value of the IQD "on the street".  Currently, the auctions are used for that purpose. it has been a failure. Now, everybody has an opinion about how best to do it.  However, the Governor of the CBI just last week told the world how it will be accomplished; "He noted that the solution in Iraq lies in dollar demand reduction through structural correction of the Iraqi economy, and not through refraining from selling the dollar."   Reducing the demand is giving value to the IQD so that all of those goods being bought with the USD is now bought with the IQD. Giving value comes from the CBI in advance, prior, before, all of these foreign investors. Not after!  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

12-15-2016   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
  ...there is an article ...that does not sit well. CBI News. The article to me seems to be implying the CBI should just introduce a whole new currency at a 1 to $1 exchange rate.  Which would not benefit current dinar holders. Not what the IMF nor the CBI have stated was in the plan.  Not to mention a new currency with a random exchange rate would fail.  I see this article as just another attempt to avoid what they should be doing. Like so often, Iraq tries shortcuts. There are no shortcuts.  The IMF has clearly stated the plan for the dinar, it does not include a new currency.  New lower denominations yes, but not a new currency.  The issuance of a new currency would be counter productive for Iraq, especially with a few trillion dinar already circulated around world. 

12-15-2016   Intel Guru Frank26   IMO...The Potential for them to complete the MR in 2016 is Conceivable to ...Plausible.   [...if I hold the 500 note...no Kurdish language on them...will they still be good? I know [Guru] Delta said the 500 note would be the largest note after the three zeros are gone.]   Yes ...They said co-exist up to 10 years.

12-15-2016   Intel Guru ADMINBILL  TODAY STARTS THE WINDOW OF "NECESSITY" THAT SOURCES HAVE MENTIONED MUST BE DEALT WITH TO ACCESS CERTAIN ASSETS TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS.

LET'S SEE IF IT IS FACTUAL OR ANOTHER "LINE IN THE SAND" THAT IS ONCE AGAIN IGNORED OR IS MORE NONSENSE.  I WILL LEAVE MY WINDOW THROUGH JANUARY OPEN WITH A PRAYER FOR US ALL THAT THIS TRULY IS THE END.  Based upon the information and activities that has been coming in the past few weeks, that have elevated in recent days, I think that we may actually see action sooner rather than later.

12-15-2016   Newshound Guru firefly
   Quote:   "Iraq continues to avail itself of the transitional arrangements under Article XIV, Section 2 but no longer maintains any exchange restrictions or multiple currency practices subject to Article XIV, Section 2, and currently maintains two exchange restrictions and one multiple currency practice (MCP) subject to Fund approval under Article VIII, Sections 2(a) and 3..."   Straight from the IMF.  ...talking past tense!  no longer maintains any exchange restrictions or multiple currency practices subject to Article XIV, Section 2...   Wow, wow, wow!!!  [awesome news.]  Yes it is. I see no hold ups whatsoever to date.

12-15-2016   Newshound Guru firefly
   [...i still do see how we all think that jan 2017 may be a change in the value...]   If the project to remove the zeros begins as planned in early January 2017 wouldn't it logically need a change in rate 1st?

Restored Republic via a GCR Dec. 15 2016

Restored Republic via a GCR Dec. 15 2016

Compiled 15 Dec. 2016 by Judy Byington, MSW, LCSW, ret, CEO, Child Abuse Recovery www.ChildAbuseRecovery.com; Author, "Twenty Two Faces," www.22faces.com.

A. Dec. 14 2016 7:46 pm EST TNT Call:

1. Everything is still going according to schedule.

2. We are still looking for this week.

3. The bank folks are calling people in for update appointments, re-affirming and expecting to exchange their clients on Thurs. Dec. 15 and Fri. Dec. 16 2016.

4. The Iraqi Budget is going through (The Dinar is the kingpin of the GCR, so the Iraqi Budget - which is based on the new Dinar rate - being approved means the GCR is official), so we wait today and tomorrow, and that will let us know what kind of call we have on Friday.

5. I have heard some people say their banker told them that the Dinar Market Rate was $7 on the screen. My own banking sources cannot see the screen rate at the moment.

6. The general feeling is for it to happen this week. Members’ bankers are saying ‘this week’, ‘by Christmas’ and ‘before the end of the year.' Presumably they are responding to information that they are receiving. There is high expectation.

7. I don’t know of anything else that needs to be said or done. I don’t know that there is a hold-up. This timing may be according to the plan.

8. I know this is done. When it’s public/live, whether there are 800 numbers or not, we will let you know so that you can handle your business.

B. Dec. 14 2016 TNT Update Beethovin: TNT UPDATE, 14 DEC Ray says it's time to go, Bruce says it's time to go, Frank says it's time to go, and Ralph says it's time to go.

C. Dec. 13 2016 5:38 pm EST TNT Chat NetGlobal: "Dec. 15th to 31st" - Tues. AM TNT Thoughts Frank26 says somewhere between Dec 15 - 31. Dr. Clarke says the same. Rayren says anytime now and that Hill Critter (Mountain Goat) is saying it will happen in Jan. 2017.

D. Dec. 14 2016 9:57 am EST WSOMN:

1. "The Exit Sign" - WSOMN AdminBill Intel 4:30 AM MST 12-14-16 AdminBill: Good morning WSOMN and ships at sea because it appears we are preparing to tie up to the pier. I believe it is safe to say that the Polar Express is about ready to pull into the station and Okie's plane has landed and taxied into the terminal. Keep a sharp eye out for the next exit sign.

2. "Bank Confirmed Christmas Currency" - WSOMN LibertyBelle LibertyBelle: My bank, TD confirmed it at 5 EST today Dec. 13 2016, that the Christmas currency is in the vault and their branch just transferred a financial manager in. This branch does not deal with FC (foreign currency). Confirmed to my ears after 2 years of them not knowing. They were bug-eyed telling me it's real. I just smiled! They just kept saying, "You were right. OMG, you're right". LOL

E. Dec. 14 2016 1:17 am EST Geopolitical Overview: Geopolitical Overview - Wednesday - December 14, 2016 Right at this moment we are witnessing all the banks and call centers prepping for a pre-Christmas revaluation of currencies and historic bond gift at anytime.

F. Dec. 13 2016 Bruce's The Big Call:

1. The Global Currency Reset will likely be close to Christmas,

2. Both the Internet Group & Prosperity Packages will go at the same time

3. There are 6,800 redemption centers in North America to handle our exchanges (which will be approximatly 1 hour each).

4. There is a back wall and it is only a couple of days away.

5. The GCR can go at any time.

6. Everything has been done in Iraq. The lower denominations are already out and in ATM machines, and Q cards are loaded.

7. There has been good progress against ISIS

8. Yesterday, Dec. 12 2016, they were exchanging currencies in Israel and possibly in other parts of the world.

9. Monday morning Dec. 12 and today Dec. 13, large tranches of money went out. A large one is moving tonight (Dec. 13) to hydrate our accounts.

10. The Transition Agreement (to initiate our exchanges) was agreed upon yesterday Dec. 12 2016.

11. The 800 numbers have been dispersed, but we don't have them yet.

12. Everything is done, including out West. Bonds have been paying out and transacting.

13. The IMF announced that currency rates would not change on Dec. 15 (as would be normal), but would change on Dec. 29. (Which tells us that they want rate changes to be kept quiet).

14. If you want to adopt a community, create jobs and build up the infrastructure in that certain area, Bruce is organizing that through an organization titled "Build America."

G. Dec. 14 2016 1:15 am EST Venz: "Hard Truth" - Guest Post by Venz

1. For proof seekers, you will not see it today. Just enjoy the intels and updates.

2. The GCR/RV is already rolling. What are we waiting for? Time and syncronicity.

3. The ones you heard before that being paid and with NDA, they don't have a cash out. All will go together, even with the humanitarian side like Zap.

4. The NDA is to protect the process and is an agreement that you will not be using your wealth for terrorism and harmful drugs.

5. As for currency holders: The internet group, your intel providers, will surely go first.

6. Once your intel providers go they will have a very limited info to tell you.

7. Veritas, Yosef, Zap will surely get paid first. That is the reason for the dates before.

8. There will be formal and official announcement. They called it The Event.

9. The Event will match with the holiday season around the globe - where people are spending their money and time everywhere and anywhere; where celebrations, announcements and gift giving abound.

10. What about the January 2017? It is the beginning of service to humanity.

11. Expect more disclosure after the Event.

12. Those who have NDAs will not feel guilty when disclosure starts.

13. Those former dates you thought were failures - they were not a failed dates. A lot of things happened during those dates, and it silenced those who professed that they were the "gods of wealth".

14. This is my last post.

15. My gratitude I give to Dinar Chronicles, Yosef, Veritas, Zap, Bruce, Tank, Spirit Warrior, TZX, Fisher, and everybody who provided information behind the scenes. You are devoted souls in the service of your fellowmen and humanity. Your selfless efforts should possess us always. Salute. Venz

H. Dec. 14 2016 1:11 pm EST News from Wells Fargo: "Very Important News from WF" - Anonymous Guest Post

1. I was told by the Wells Fargo Currency Exchange Division that as of today Dec. 14 2016 they will be selling out all of their currency to a contract company and will not be accepting any more foreign currency because of the liability they would have on the return.

2. Wells Fargo will not be receiving any more foreign currency by the beginning of the year.

3. They will be doing a contract with other banks or wealth management companies to do foreign currency and the exchange.

4. Last night on the big call Bruce said that Wells Fargo was still in line with doing the exchange but according to my Intel and my bank in Texas, they will not be doing the exchange.

I. Dec. 14 2016 8 am EST New Paradigm Stewardship: To The New Paradigm Stewardship On 12/13

1. Some 25,000 ZIM holders and thousands more currency holders are trying to fund worthwhile Humanitarian Projects and Job Creation endeavors from their own family and small realm of current friends and local contacts. This is not only going to be a disorganized mess, but will take decades and far too long to effectively transform our world.

2. It's time to join forces and get organized. We need a very high level executive team of people who can act as managing directors over what must be accomplished to the benefit of our inherent success.

3. We now have a very special and highly intelligent plan to coordinate efforts and then work together.

4. We are about to meet at our redemption exchanges and then disappear into a high security private forum together with the best high security communications technology in the world.

5. Contact us at Managing Director, new Paradigm Stewardship Foundations: NewParadigmStewardship@gmail.com

J. GCR Update Dec. 14 2016 1:17 am EST: Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of December 14, 2016

K. Dec. 14 2016 10:34 pm EST Zap mid-week Report Poofness: ZAP's Mid-Week Report - The Office of POOFness - 12.14.16

1. Overnight many events took place and we have success.

2. The funds release occurred today Dec. 14 2016.

3. Tomorrow Dec. 15 2016 they will process all the transfers going out.

4. On Friday Dec. 16 2016 the first funds will be sent to our paymaster.

5. It was very close to blowing up, but things settled down.

6. In global matters the RV and GCR prospects are rapidly coming to a head with certain dates being bandied about, but due to the delays we have had do not expect these things to occur until the new year.

7. This is just common sense as we are too close to Christmas to have this happen this year and all the guys who are doing it want their holiday time.

8. Wikileaks Julian Assange is having some very strong material published that will spark a great interest, not only from law enforcement, but hopefully from the public.

9. The revelations coming out as the extent of the rape and pillage of our humanity is truly extraordinary. These whistleblowers are to be hailed as heroes, not killed off.

L. Dec. 14 2016 11:10 pm EST: "Re: Payout Senatorial" - Guest Post by G "Payout Senatorial" - Guest Post by Rick Sarbo According to Yosef the sovereign rate for the IQD was $256.00. The IQD notes (3 zero) we exchange in the US will be destroyed, and exchanged at full face value. Have a Humanitarian plan outline, talk passionately about it and ask for at least a $256 rate on the Dinar.


KTGA TIDBIT, 14 DEC

Tank:  Very interesting. Could this be exactly what has been mentioned in posts and the CCs (C.Syndrome?)

Michelle:  I DONT KNOW WHY IM SUDDENLY THINKING OF KUWAIT!!!  Shhhhhhhhhhhh

Cole:  THEYVE LEARNED A LOT FROM KUWAIT!!!!!!!!!!!   WOW IS THIS IRAQ OR KUWAIT?!?! Copycats... KUWAIT was OG... spin off... LOL

Don961:  Central denies intention to change the dinar 's rate against the dollar and the imposition of taxes on the last sale

12/15/2016 10:06

Central denies intention to change the dinar's rate against the dollar and the imposition of taxes on the last sale 

Continued..      http://alghadpress.com/ar/news.....445/linkر

Samson:  Central Bank of Iraq issued a statement on the dollar exchange rate

 12/15/2016 - 09:23

The Central Bank of Iraq, on Thursday, a statement on the US dollar exchange rate.
According to the statement, and received "Economy News" copy of it, "the central bank does not intend to change the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar against the US dollar."
He denied the central bank, in its statement, "the imposition of fees or taxes on the sale price of the dollar," pointing out that "the rise in oil prices will enable the Bank to inject greater than the dollar amounts to the market. 
 
http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=6099

Don961:  OK .... The dollar has been on the rise recently ... so the correlation with the dinar means it takes more dinars to equal a dollar ... what he appears to be saying is no need to panic .... we do not need to adjust our current rate to match and maintain price stability .... or impose fees and taxes on dollar sales ....the " the rise in oil prices will enable the Bank to inject greater than the dollar amounts to the market."..... 

Don't think this relates to RI/RV per se .... just with what is happening at the present time .... til they are off program rate .... and the value of the dinar increases to be = to or > than the dollar .... to give real value to the currency ... IMO 


WSOMN UPDATE , 14 DEC

ADMINBILL:  THURSDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2016 (0645 MT)
GOOD MORNING. IT'S A GREAT DAY TO BE ALIVE! TODAY STARTS THE WINDOW OF "NECESSITY" THAT SOURCES HAVE MENTIONED MUST BE DEALT WITH TO ACCESS CERTAIN ASSETS TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS.

LET'S SEE IF IT IS FACTUAL OR ANOTHER "LINE IN THE SAND" THAT IS ONCE AGAIN IGNORED OR IS MORE NONSENSE.  

I WILL LEAVE MY WINDOW THROUGH JANUARY OPEN WITH A PRAYER FOR US ALL THAT THIS TRULY IS THE END

SO, FOR THE TIME BEING, I WILL SIMPLY GIVE THANKS TO OUR CREATOR THAT I AM STILL VERTICAL AND SUCKING IN AIR AND ABLE TO SUPPORT MY FAMILY AND BRING YOU INFORMATION.

HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE... 


Stag1:  Admin Are you talking about the HB'S (historical bonds?) being Funded first ?

Diogenes:  AdminBill Thanks for the info...yesterday you mentioned you thought it unlikely to go into January, do you still think that based the info from your sources?

ADMINBILL:  STAG1 AND DIOGENES

I believe that HB's have already been funded in some cases. I can't prove it but that is my belief. Based upon the information and activities that has been coming in the past few weeks, that have elevated in recent days, I think that we may actually see action sooner rather than later.

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AvonLady:  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-15/silver-slammed-gold-crashes-b​elow-1150-10-billion-post-fed-hike-puke

AvonLady:   http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-15/wti-crude-tumbles-49-handle-e​rases-opecnopec-deal-gains

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Evenstar:  FYI Tomorrow may be important - it is quadriple witching day

What is quadruple witching? Quadruple witching happens when three related classes of options and futures contracts expire, along with the individual stock futures options. Like triple witching, quadruple witching is the ending of contracts on the third Friday of every March, June, September, and December.

Lostnq8:  on OM - talking about quadruple witching is tomorrow - waiting to see impact on market - could trigger

Evenstar:  What happens on a quadruple witching hour day?

On the day of a quadruple witching, many investors attempt to end their futures and options positions before the contracts expire. This activity often includes repurchasing contracts and/or closing out market positions.

Quadruple witching days are usually accompanied by considerable volatility in stock and derivative prices, as well as increased trading volume. Knowing that this is a volatile time, investors can anticipate and plan for the potential effects.

What are witching hours?

Witching hours occur when financial contracts—specifically options and futures—end on the third Friday of a month.

The time periods—double, triple, quadruple—reflect the number of contracts that expire.

Traditionally, all contracts expire in the same hour—thus the name witching hour—usually the last hour of trading.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45617442

ADMINBILL:  EVENSTAR - GREAT EXPLANATION - TIMING IS EVERYTHING IN THE MARKETS

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RaginCajun :   DELTA SAID THEY ARE PREPARING TO RELEASE THE LOWER DENOMS EARLY JANUARY, WHY RELEASE THEM IF THE RATE DOESN'T CHANGE, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR THEM

Angel :  That is right RC nobody needs to be carrying around wheel barrows filled with lower denom notes.

STAG1 :  Gold is tumbling down   

RaginCajun :  IF GOLD IS DROPPING THE DOLLAR IS GOING UP…IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, JUST DO IT