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Sunday, November 6, 2016

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 6 OCT

11-6-2016   Newshound Guru rcookie   THE FIGHT AND PROGRESS AGAINST CORRUPTION HAS BEEN ONGOING SINCE ABADI TOOK OFFICE....BUT THESE ARE INTENSE STEPS AND COOPERATION BY CBI AND WASHINGTON TO CONFRONT AND ADDRESS THE AUCTION BREACHES...WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY SETTING UP THE NEW ANTI CORRUPTION AML ANTI TERRORISM DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CBI TO BE COMPLIANT WITH IMF MANDATES...AWESOME PROGRESS...   [post 2 of 2]

11-6-2016   Newshound Guru rcookie
  Article:  "Iraq and its allies and drying financing Daesh"  Quote:  "The Central Bank of Iraq and through close cooperation with the US side put a black list to prevent funds from reaching the territory controlled by Daesh, and has more than 150 companies today."   SO...HERE WE HAVE DETAILS ON THE US TREASURY INVOLVEMENT WITH CBI...TO MONITOR USD SHIPMENTS FOR THE 1ST TIME...TO PREVENT DELIVERY OF USD TO ILLICIT DESTINATIONS...AND DESCRIBES AS TURNING POINT OF FIXING THE FAILURE OF THE AUCTIONS...AND THROUGH CLOSE COOPERATION DEVELOPED THE "BLACKLIST" OF BANKS TOTALING 150 THAT ARE NOW EXEMPT FROM AUCTION ACTIVITY...  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-6-2016   Intel Guru Dr. Clarke   Still Right on Schedule...Looks good for an NON-International rate increase BY around Dec. 1st, with an Official International status & Rate BY Jan. 1, 2017, when they officially begin their new fiscal year.   The Dong status is the same...could increase at any moment, but it's likely to substantially increase BY Jan. 1st, as well...AND when VN begins fiscal year.

11-6-2016   Newshound Guru rcookie   "Parliamentary Finance reveal: 2017 budget will include former oil agreement between Baghdad and Erbil"   THE 2017 BUDGET LAW WILL INCLUDE OIL AGREEMENT BETWEEN BAGHDAD AND ERBIL...AND IMPLEMENTATION OF AGREEMENT SIMILAR AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS.  EXACT SAME PARAMETERS AS 2016 BUDGET...ONLY NOW KURDS CAN EXECUTE FULLY WITH CEYHAN FULLY OPERATIONAL.

11-6-2016   Intel/Newshound Guru Mnt Goat   It has been very difficult to control this corruption. Many ways have been tried. This in part has been the hold up of the launching of the new currency (the lower dinars) and going forward with the currency reform measures, as I am told by my CBI contact. As we know the CBI has already created a scarcity situation with the dinar in the process of the “project to delete the zeros”. They have told us they are ready and fully prepared to launch the lower denoms but had to postpone this effort due until the security situation in Iraq is fixed.  [post 2 of 2]
 
11-6-2016   Intel/Newshound Guru Mnt Goat   ...by the implementation of the customs and tariffs law Iraq is now able to track goods and services coming into Iraq. This is one reason why it was so imperative to get this law completed. So in following the proper customs and tariffs procedures it is a way of now matching the imports coming into Iraq to the demand for the dollar in these currency auctions at the banks. So far the demand far exceeds the imports. So where is all the extra dollars going if not to pay foreign debt?  We see it is going to fund Daesh/ISIS terrorists and Iranian militia.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

TNT UPDATE, 6 OCT

TNT:

TNT Saturday Evening 11-5-16:  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THIS EVENING!

 It has been reported that PM Abadi was on Iraqi TV today visiting and inspecting Mosul. Thousands of families were seen returning to Mosul. The budget had it's second reading today. It was stated that the IMF will review with the CBI on Monday the status of the finance minister, they are confident Iraq will receive their next payment. Celebrations are happening.  

Also on TV, the CBI signed a deal with the US Treasury to eliminate funding of Daesh and that article 140 is finished and ready! Smile

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Joe:  If the ZIM comes in at what people are predicting, I think I will buy the world and everything in it !!!!!!LOL

Daz:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/11/05/dont-ma​ke-these-celebrities-estate-planning-blunders/90111830/

Daz:  In a new report, the London-based real estate advisor Savills SVLPF 0.21% has tallied up the value of all global property, including commercial and residential property and forestry and agricultural land. By the firm’s count, it comes to a whopping $217 trillion total http://fortune.com/2016/01/26/rea-estate-global-economy/

Daz: The gross world product (GWP) is the combined gross national product of all the countries in the world. Because imports and exports balance exactly when considering the whole world, this also equals the total global gross domestic product (GDP).[nb 1] In 2014, according to the CIA's World Factbook, the GWP totalled approximately US$107.5 trillion in terms of purchasing power parity (PPP), and around US$78.28 trillion in nominal terms daz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_world_product
 
Phantom809:  Iraq's Shiite militias join Mosul push; bombs rock Baghdad -- http://www.wect.com/story/33515500/iraqs-shiite-militias-join-mosul-pu​sh-bombs-rock-baghdad

ADMINBILL UPDATE, 6 OCT

ADMINBILL:   SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 2016 (1020)

SUNDAY ONCE AGAIN IN DINARLAND AND SURROUNDING ENVIRONS. ANOTHER WEEKEND IS ABOUT TO PASS US BY WITH NO RV.

BUT DON'T FRET. I CONTINUE TO BE TOLD IT IS ON THE WAY AS IT WORKS IT'S WAY GRUDGINGLY THROUGH THE WORLDS GOVERNMENTS, BANKS AND WEB OF POLITICAL ENTANGLEMENTS AND THE POWERFUL PEOPLE AND GROUPS THAT CONTROL THE PUPPET STRINGS.

THAT IS NOT SUCH A BAD THING EITHER. JUST CONSIDER HOW MUCH OUR POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE LAST 40 YEARS THAT HAVE BENEFITED CITIZENS AND NOT THEM.

ENJOY THE DAY. WHILE AT HOME OR CHURCH PRAY FOR OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY TO BECOME WHOLE AGAIN BEFORE IT CAN NO LONGER BE DONE.  


CandyKisses:  Thank you for your update, ADMINBILL.  I am hoping that the upcoming week will bring us our desired results.   Isn't " now" also the timeframe that the authors of the plan had spoken of?

ADMINBILL:  CANDY - THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING BUT CIRCUMSTANCES CAN CHANGE FROM WHAT I AM TOLD. HANG IN THERE EVERYONE.

DR. CLARKE UPDATE, 6 OCT

DR. CLARKE: Still Right on Schedule........Looks good for an NON-International rate increase BY around Dec. 1st, with an Official International status & Rate BY Jan. 1, 2017, when they officially begin their new fiscal year. 

The Dong status is the same........could increase at any moment, but it's likely to substantially increase BY Jan. 1st, as well.....AND when VN begins fiscal year.

OUR WORDS, Not Theirs.......purely Speculation, with absolutely no basis, proof, facts or reason to believe ANYTHING we say.

(P.S. We have always really loved the acronym "PTB", for some reason.)

Continuing our Very Best Intention for ALL....more strongly than ever before.

........this upcoming week will be a REAL DOOSIE!

Dr. Clarke


FIREBALL92 TIDBIT, 6 OCT

TNT:

Fireball92:  LoL... I see a few who seem to misunderstand the Budget... FYI Iraq has Not had an actual budget passed since I've been around.... Been using the USA 'patch it' method.... Part of the excitement ...IMO ... To be fully Art 8, and receive 2nd installment of loan funds IMF requires a published budget.... which also requires a currency with a reality rate

Jose: never heard Tony explain the budget that way. he always stated you cant have a budget without a rate. never heard patch work usa

Fireball92:  Jose... Correct .... hence what I said

November 5, 2016 Mnt Goat News Brief

November 5, 2016 Mnt Goat News Brief
 
Hi Everyone,
 
Emphasis now for us is still the progress of retaking Mosul and then moving towards currency reform. The fighting in Mosul worsens as the Iraqi forces move in on the last of the ISIS strongholds and are now going door to door flushing them out. I still firmly believe the full announcement of success will come prior to the 2016 election voting process in USA and that event is VERY close at hand. Just my opinion…..
 
Today we also have lots of WOW news.
 
An update on progress and motivation of Iraq to join the WTO. We know they are working very closely with the IMF, World Bank and the WTO to put in place all financial and economic reforms. Why put all these reforms in place if not for a purpose. Certainly we know it is time for Iraq to move out of their “closed economy” and join the “global economy”.
 
Also I bring you some more WOW news today. Let me explain,

But first let me lead up to the good news as you must understand first how the economy of Iraq is now working. I will recount how this works since many seem to forget.
 
Yes...many of you readers have VERY short memories!
 
If Iraqi merchants want to purchase goods or services from foreign countries they must pay in US dollars only since Iraq is now in a “closed economy” due to sanctions (so they are notreally out of sanctions as of yet contrary to the 2013 announcement).
 
So if they are in sanctions and thus under article 14 of the UN charter, then how can they pay for foreign goods and services if they are prohibited from using the dinar outside the country (for fear of funding terrorists with it)? So they must use dollars instead and this was the system set up for this purpose...the currency auctions.
 
So how do they get the dollars to transact this business? They go to what they call the CBI currency auctions and exchange dinars for US dollars. Essentially they go to any state run bank and go to the window marked "CBI currency exchange". They ask to exchange dinar for dollars and must show paperwork of proof they have legitimate business and need to pay foreign debtors.
 
This leads to much funding of the terrorists namely Daesh/ISIL since much of this paperwork is falsified.
 
How do they know its falsified?
 
They don't at the time of the transaction at the bank and this too is part of the problem. But by the implementation of the customs and tariffs law Iraq is now able to track goods and services coming into Iraq. This is one reason why it was so imperative to get this law completed. Do you remember this law and how they had to rush to implement it? Also some provinces did not want to implement it and follow proper record keeping. We say many articles on this. Go figure why?
 
So in following the proper customs and tariffs procedures it is a way of now matching the imports coming into Iraq to the demand for the dollar in these currency auctions at the banks. So far the demand far exceeds the imports. So where is all the extra dollars going if not to pay foreign debt?
 
We see it is going to fund Daesh/ISIS terrorists and Iranian militia.
 
It has been very difficult to control this corruption. Many ways have been tried. This in part has been the hold up of the launching of the new currency (the lower dinars) and going forward with the currency reform measures, as I am told by my CBI contact. As we know the CBI has already created a scarcity situation with the dinar in the process of the “project to delete the zeros”. They have told us they are ready and fully prepared to launch the lower denoms but had to postpone this effort due until the security situation in Iraq is fixed. There words not mine. No Rumors, No Hype just the FACTS!  
 
So what is this security situation?
 
It is of course DAESH/ISIS & Iranian militia infiltration into Iraq and the possibility they could use the currency to fund their efforts.    
 
So this week once (for the hundredth time) we see more articles talking about the corruption in the currency auctions and the failure to resolve the corruption. Still they can’t trace the dollars and where they are all going. But they do know there is a discrepancy as the CBI reserves get twiddled down once again to $40 billion from $55 billion. See article below.
 
So something must be done and very soon. We all know this must be done prior to turning their currency (the dinar) on to the international/global world once again. We also know the World Bank and the IMF has highly recommended that Iraq hold their reserves at minimum of $55 billion.
 
So Iraq requested the assistance of the US Treasury counter terrorism team to come into Iraq and monitor this program. They finally have a solution. This is the WOW!
 
Remember this – Why in hell would you turn back on the currency of Iraq when the very reason you shut it off in 2003 still exists when sanctions were placed on Iraq. So first you have to eliminate or at least have some way to prevent the terrorists from using the currency for their own devious purposes. Get it?
 
Note: So how can the RV happen any day / everyday?  Anyone who it constantly telling you this is wrong and you should now know enough to stay away from these looney tunes. (and NO we are not going to "redemption centers" either. We will simply take our dinar to the bank and exchange with the exchange contact IN THE BANK).   
 
I quote from the article – “Khairallah said corruption disease eats away at the social fabric of the cultural, political and economic aspects, and prepared by Transparency International of the biggest challenges facing our modern world, it undermines good governance and distorts public policy and hurts the private sector and hurting the poor”.
 
Yet another WOW punch in the news today and I quote from the article below –

It is a turning point in this file the Central Bank of Iraq, led on the Keywords and through close cooperation with the US side blacklist to prevent funds from reaching the territory controlled by Daesh, and has more than 150 companies on list. He noted that the most important achievements of the Convention, dramatically reduces the dollar shipments to Iraq and replace with dinars”.
 
So what significance does this WOW news of today have on our investment?
 
 think,,,think,,,think!
 
This article below (the last article in the news letter) is telling us they finally found a way to prevent the funding of the terrorists from using the dollar AND most importantly it says replace the dollar with using the dinar. Oh- wait a second but there is a significant shortage of dinars in Iraq. Well – it looks like they will just have to launch the new lower denominations….lol….lol…Looks like they will just have to trade in dinars and not dollars anymore...meaning it is now safer to change over to using dinars and not dollars since it is the dollars being used to fund terrorists and not the dinars. Get it?
 
Many ask – Why not just put Iraq (or any nation) on the US Dollar as their currency? There are many reasons but lets cover the three main reasons.   
 
First, the current middle eastern situation would create a rapid, accelerated terrorist activities since terrorist buy their weapons and supplies from arms dealers using mostly US dollars. So you don’t want a means for them to obtain this currency. This has been the problem all along with the CBI auctions.
 
Second this question is yet more complicated, but essentially, YES, is would create a demand for the dollar but also with the uncertainty and instability of many of these nations. The USA would then also have to maintain a very high presence in order to maintain the stabilization of their economies thus stabilize the value of the US dollar (their currency). This is very expensive and defeats the purpose. Instead it is better for the USA to encourage a country’s sovereignty and have their own currency, their own armed services then they only have to “indirectly” exert influence and pressure to ensure what dollars do enter the country stay in circulation and do not go to terrorists (this is also why they need a “democratic” gov’t they can work with).
 
Third reason is that any nation to be truly sovereign needs it own currency. Using another nations currency is to be controlled by that currency. Money is wealth and wealth is power to decide your own fate as a nation. If you are truly going to be a democracy you will need to control your own currency thus your own destiny. This does not mean you can't or should not peg it to an SDR (basket of currencies) to help determine its true value and create stability.
 
Now I am not advocating the petro dollar (or any of he other currencies in the SDR such as the pound, yen, yuan, dollar, euro, etc, as evil or bad or even a conspiracy for it has had it purposes and many countries have become much more stable and wealthy as a result.  But when the use of the US dollar is involved there is influence the USA must play to constantly exert in order to keep stability for their dollars to stay in circulation.
 
Did you ever consider this. Basic economics tells us there are rules of Supply and Demand. Increase supply leaving demand the same the price is adjusted downward. Decrease supply leaving demand the same the price is adjusted upwards. So why is the US dollar now so high when we know they just infused trillions of US dollars into the economy through three rounds of so called "quantitative easing" (meaning put large quantities of currency into circulation hoping to ease inflation). Remember inflation is caused by less supply than meets demand, thus prices rise.
 
So what is left then to look as to why the US dollar is so high? Could it be that Demand has been adjusted along with Supply? and now in fact Demand out-weights Supply? Where is this demand coming from? Is it TRUE demand or just from Demand created from the confidence in the US dollar, as compared to other international currencies. In other words the choice over other currencies. Something to think about. How long will this confidence remain? 
 
Remember also the United Kingdom (UK) and the history lesson learned. The UK did exactly the opposite and forced their colonies to use the British pound as their currency. History shows this is in part the downfall of the great British Empire. You must peg your currency to a group of stable currencies. This is like diversification of an investment portfolio. So the  dinar will  be pegged to a basket of currencies. Do not confuse this with this so called "GCR" basket you keep hearing about. I will say it one more time....read my lips....THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GCR (global currency reset)! Get it?  
 
More WOW news……

I also want to let everyone know that this week Iraq published the text of an "historic compromise" which unveiled  a new vision and an Iraqi national for after Daesh. This is the National Reconciliation document we all have been waiting for so long. Yes- it has finally arrived and will be implemented.

It pledges the UN Mission in Iraq (UNAMI) to provide "a unified Sunni political party" to sign the document, and obtaining the approval of a regional Sunni states.
 
 UNAMI will play the role of guarantor party to implement the terms of this "settlement", cross-compiling proposals all Iraqi parties for the drafting of a final paper based on the protection and implementation. And it pledged to the UN mission, according to sources and I quote from the article – “ to deal with any party or threatens to hamper the implementation”.
 

I do not know if everyone can understand just how HUGE and WOW this news is today.

The UN just fully obligated the UN to support this Reconciliation effort and to use force to anyone who opposes it. Now Iraq for the first time has the full backing of the UN in this reconciliation effort.
 
Folks it does not get any better than this. FINALLY the long awaited Reconciliation Effort has taken hold and is almost completed. Now it just needs signing and recognition from all and it is done. Let’s pray it will take hold and be successful in the long run.


Articles Begin
 
Iraq confirms his efforts to join the World Trade Organization
 
Roudao – Erbil
 
The Minister of Trade of Iraq , “ Salman Jumaili,” on Tuesday, his country is seeking to join the World Trade Organization, to promote the country ‘s exports and diversify and provide incentives and facilities to them.
 
He Jumaili in a speech today at the opening of the Baghdad International Fair concert, in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, that his country is determined to get the membership of the World Trade Organization, calling to contribute to the reconstruction of liberated areas of the organization “Daesh” international companies, to stimulate the economy.
 
Iraq obtained observer status in the World Trade Organization in 2004, but he was unable to obtain full membership, which qualifies him to take advantage of, especially in cross-border trade to join features.
 
A member of the parliamentary Economic Committee Jawad al-Bolani, in a press statement, “The Iraqi government headed years ago to develop the industrial sector through the granting of loans for various projects, and after the application of the tariff (next year), the concerned authorities will continue its efforts for Iraq’s accession to the World Trade Organization as a full member “.
 
He continued: “enter the organization requires activation of the industrial base, because the nation to join local products suffer from the competition in the market, because the markets are open to the flow of goods from OECD countries.” (to do this fully they will need an international currency to qualify among other items we have already seen them implement i.e tariffs and new inter banking laws)
 
According to data published on the Ministry of Commerce website, the ministry is leading a project to carry out a package of actions concerning the creation of an environment suitable for investment conditions, the rationalization of government policy support, in addition to a number of reforms to the laws and procedures of the taxes and fees.
 
The minister opened the day Baghdad International Fair, among its 43 in the presence of a number of officials and ministers, with the participation of 12 countries, 400 companies representing industry sectors, agricultural, commercial and communications technology, representing various nationalities, according to a statement of the Ministry of Commerce.(so they are open to suggestions on what they must do to be successful in the global markets, This is why they are having these numerous seminars and fairs.)
 
Iraqi Central Bank reserves lower to $ 40 billion.
 
{Baghdad} Euphrates News revealed to the economic and investment commission member of the parliamentary proof Mamouri, lower central bank reserves up to $ 40 billion.
 
Said Mamouri in a statement received by the agency {Euphrates News} a copy of it, on Wednesday, that "monetary policy by the Central Bank of Iraq led to a huge waste of the financial reserves of the Central Bank." 

He said , "There is information suggesting that the reserve current central bank limits $ 40 billion or less after hitting the $ 78 billion in 2013. " 
Said Mamouri that" the central bank 's policy of selling the currency led to a huge waste in a financial reserve of the bank after the dollar in the local market price reached more than 1300 dinars to one dollar, while the official selling price of the bank rate does not exceed 1200 dinars to the dollar. " 

He said a member of the economic and investment commission that" he was assumed that there will be an increase in the reserve ratio of foreign currency at the central bank as shall receive a percentage of profits to sell the currency, but we see the opposite. " 

he called Mamouri" bank to follow a new policy to sell the currency through the open window for direct sale to the citizens and at the price prevailing in the market and achieve the benefit for the general budget of the state. " 
he noted that it will be hosting the central bank governor and directors of state banks in the coming days in order to clarification about the causes of decline of dollar reserves and a strong dollar. " 

It is said that the central bank adviser Walid Idi told {the Firat News}, on 18 June, the central bank has more than $ 50 billion in reserve as well as gold, pointing out that this reserve covers imports more than generally accepted internationally established term.

Parliamentary claims to cancel the sale of foreign currency outlets because of the presence of corruption in sale of currency

 

BAGHDAD / tomorrow Press She said a member of the  economic and investment commission  parliamentary Najiba Najib,  for "tomorrow Press" that " foreign currency sale at the CBI window is still experiencing a large  blurry and there are  indications of cases of  corruption in dealing with  them," surprising than "not  to hear any of the " .competent authorities has  revealed file corruption in  the sale of currency window Najib said that "the  depletion of the currency has been continued  without a deterrent must be  shut down that process," 

arguing that "the  continuation”  ".will lead to a major  financial collapse," as the  central bank called for " several measures for the  import of essential things For his part, Chairman of the  Integrity Committee Talal  Zobaie called for "the  central bank's cooperation  with his commission to  uncover the files with dealers selling the currency and the sources of  their money from the dinar,  which was bought by the  dollar or any where the  dollar goes after buying ".window He Zubai, for "tomorrow Press"  that "the Commission  continuing to communicate  with the central bank to see  the reality of his dealings  with the sale of currency and customers that  are dealing with a window, 

but so far we can determine  the nature of these  transactions and goods  entering often stay is " .necessary therefore  requires a frothing of  cooperation by other entities  Kalmnavz border and customs  and tax Like 7 Share Economic Commission  parliamentary demanded on  Friday the abolition of  foreign currency sale at the  CBI window, confirming the  existence of a large corruption in, "while some  expressed surprise at the lack of  talking by official bodies  from that corruption, while  the Parliamentary Integrity  Commission .confirmed that it continues  to communicate with the bank  Central to see the reality of  his dealings with the sale of  currency window.
 
 
US official reveals details of Washington's agreement with the CBI to stop financing Daesh

BAGHDAD / tomorrow Press
 
Confirmed chief financial  officer at the US Embassy in  Iraq,  John Sullivan, that  cooperation between  Washington and Baghdad to  stop funding Daesh made considerable progress, noting that the  organization is going through  a financial crisis undermined  preparations for the battle  of Mosul and Stnhia in .its current form in the  event of losing the city Sullivan said the  international press  conversation, followed up " tomorrow Press", "The first  agreement of its kind between  the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department on the  one hand, and the Central  Bank of Iraq, on the other  hand to monitor the dollar  shipments and ensure the  prevention of the " .arrival of these funds to  illicit destinations, is  applied successfully,
 

 It is a turning point in  this file The Central Bank of Iraq, led  on the Keywords and through  close cooperation with the US  side blacklist to prevent  funds from reaching the  territory" ".controlled by Daesh, and  has more than 150 companies,  today's situation ".He noted that "the most  important achievements of the  Convention, dramatically reduc e the dollar shipments to  Iraq and replace dinars
 
He pointed out that  "since before the  signing of the agreement was  Daesh militants are dealing  in dollars, and this  stopped today," noting that  "the ".senior leadership of the  organization arrested in  dollars.

The official spoke on the  financial crisis afflicting  Daesh, and added that "the  ordinary armed salary dropped  more than 50 percent, as well  as to their dealings Dinars prevents them  from making international  transactions," pointing out  that Iraq "was one of the  countries that buy the dollar  for years and " .there is a change radical  today
 
Sullivan praised Iraq's  efforts to reform the central  bank, where he said, "the  central bank completed within  a year more than what has  been achieved in ".the past 13 years ".He added that "Washington  and Baghdad will exchange  intelligence, financial,  security information required  to stop for Daesh transfers He said, "The organization  was formerly dependent on oil  prices and after the decline  began trying to swap oil with  goods or services," pointing  out that "."the campaign against Mosul  found a lot of cash dugout
 
Articles End
 
Their words not mine…..No Rumors, No Hype, Just the FACTS!
 
Auf Wiedersehen

Luv to ya all,    Mnt Goat

TNT UPDATE, 6 OCT

OffGrid:  Haider Al-Abadi ‏@HaiderAlAbadi 3 minutes ago PM Al-Abadi in Mosul today visiting frontline commanders and troops

Haider Al-Abadi ‏@HaiderAlAbadi 5 minutes ago Mr Premier, armed forces Commander General Haydar Abadi visits the Church of Mar gorgis in bartella

Ecubucs:  OffGrid, I'm still convinced that the US Elections have are part of the reason why this hasn't been released yet..... Should I say.... Released to our level yet! I Do feel as though it has been released to the sovereigns and are being traded on high platforms we would never see!

Dallred123:  I agree it is released just not public

Ecubucs:  dallred, that is my position now... Just don't see this happening prior to the US Elections... Please PROVE ME WRONG!!! PLEASE!!!

Ecubuc:  The GCR is moving! Some countries are readjusting both up and down! Egypt just readjusted two days ago!

Fitgerald:   ARE WE THE PUBLIC???????


Ecubucs:  firtzgerald Yes. Unless we are part of a private group we would be! We are an internet group and therefore we should find out prior to the "Public" but we are still part of the public IMO

Offgrid:  ecubucs --- if ANY of this is to go public, then imo the Public would be in crisis thinking mode since everything just went upside down on them ... So, imo, they have a script to create a national crisis - probably election related - so they can present the 'reasonable solution' to the public and let things unfold as they are required to do. ... just thinking outloud here ;)

Ecubucs:  OffGrid We are thinking very much alike!!! To me that makes perfect sense!

Dallred123:  Yes and we all thought all countries would go at the same time but they are not

Ecubucs:  dallred, each group of baskets will most likely go at the same time... Yes, some of these baskets are going prior to ours!

Dallred123:  So we wait to find the crisis

Jacksmits:  ecubucs i think the distinction there is we will get the public announcement but being informed and more connected to the ongoing story, will be able to react and engage more quickly than the average John Q Public….. I think the vast majority of the public will just ignore it as inconsequential news headlines to their lives

Ecubucs:  Absolutely JackSmits!!! I totally agree with your statement!

Fitzgerald:  ANY WORD ON THE ADMIRALS GROUP YET???????

Ecubucs:  fitz what was known as the Admiral's group is now the Private Wells Fargo Exchange Group... The Admiral per say has NO Group... He must sign for the US to start the exchange in basic terms...

Jacksmits:  I thought, and the original website for General64 was the new Private Wells Fargo Exchange Group.....at least that's what they told me when they put me on the PWFEG list

Ecubucs:  Yes JackSmits it was the old General64 group from years ago... There is simply No Admiral's Group.

Dallred123:  Well elections is Tuesday so that means anytime Wednesday or after

Steadfast:  ecubucks, do you think it will happen shortly after the election, or will we have to wait a while.?

Ecubucs:  Steadfast, That's the question none of us can answer! I'm praying just like everyone in here that we are just That close!!! I believe before this happens that the world powers need to see who is now in the position of the US Presidency... Regardless of who it is.. I think that has to be a known factor first.. Again, jmo

Hitdoc:  ecubucs..... I’ve all ways said after the election ....but i got jumped on ......LOL

DesertJar5:  All the things Tony said would happen just before the RV happens is happening

Dallred123:  lets all just be ready…. because nov 8th is just a few days away