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Sunday, September 18, 2016

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 18 SEPT

9-18-2016   Newshound Guru wmawhite   Newshound Guru quotes:  “we now know 3 things are now FACTUAL and see these FACTS in writing from the CBI:”  “Iraq does need the IMF’s permission to RV”  My response...!  Wrong...not so! We do not know that as fact! Show me!  Where has the Central Bank of Iraq or the IMF has ever made such a statement?  Quote:  “Iraq CBI needs to increase their reserve of hard currency now sitting in the CBI. It now is almost cut in half from what it was in 2012.”  My response...!   Wrong...not so!   We do not know that as fact! Show me!  Where has the Central Bank of Iraq or the IMF has ever made such a statement?   My response...!  Two years ago the reserves were at $80 billion and what was the value of the IQD? Answer; 1166.  Quote:  “the legislative track and other issues also have an impact on the exchange rate (so it appears Iraq does need some mandated laws...”  My response...!  What?! What is a “mandated law”?  None of these statements made by this News Hound/Guru is in writing from the CBI. NONE.  [Reference Intel/Newshound Guru Mnt Goat post 9-17-2016]

9-18-2016   Newshound Guru Aggiedad77
  Article:  "Kurdish source: Washington got a pledge from the leaders of the political blocs to postpone the withdrawal of confidence from Zebari three months"   ...IF...we are so close to some "event" happening...it wouldn't make sense to try a new recipe to bake a cake would it...that to me makes perfect sense with Zebari as well...  Here we stand on the precipice that ledge...the skinny and narrow ledge where a step of faith is being required...why make that step with an unknown... Zebari may not be an angel...but he has the knowledge...he knows the numbers...he understands the workings of what is expected to kick their Monetary Reform into full gear...warp speed...Anyone one else would have to review the recipe and make sure the ingredient are to their liking...remember the IMF is telling them NO MORE DELAYS...get 'er done boys...The US has the clout to keep Zebari right where he is and they are playing that card to keep the steam in the engine...leave the recipe alone the US is telling Abadi to tell the rest of the GOI...make this cake so Iraq can rock the world...by November...

9-18-2016   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG
   [...IMO the interest for us now is only the intro of new currency and how they will treat the existing 3 zero notes...]   no need to be concerned about how they treat the 3 zero notes... they are worth a Dinar and will still be worth a Dinar once they make the change...

TNT UPDATED, 18 SEPT

Mac0929: Being ready for Zim Exchange Rate presented by bank
 We often talk about an exchange rate of 2 or 3 digits after dropping 6 zeros. However, banks will not likely use this terminology. This note is to help you be prepared to know what all means the same thing.

But first "the simple strategy" is to know what 10 trillion or 100 trillion Zim translates to and just ask "so with this exchange rate how much per 10/100 trillion?"

Let's do an example: Say you are expecting an exchange rate of $0.10 after dropping 6 zeros. You should then be expecting $10 million for every 100 trillion Zim note you have. You get to the bank and they say the exchange rate 0.2e-5 or 0.000002 Is that a good thing or bad?

What "e-5" means is essentially the same thing as dropping 5 zeros.


Mac0929:  All the zeros after the decimal before the first real number is also equivalent to how many zeros you are dropping, again 5, making the two ways of presenting it equal.

So is 0.2 after dropping 5 zeros better or worse than $0.10 after dropping six? To make equal you add one more decimal place to the 0.2 for the sixth zero and it is $0.20 after dropping six zeros. YEAH, it is twice what you expected. However that is a whole lot of math to figure out.

Let's say instead you immediately ask "what does that exchange rate make 100 trillion Zim worth?" They will answer $20 million. That is double the $10 million you expected. And you got to the same answer a whole lot faster.

So remember these simple steps:

1) Know how much 100 trillion should be worth

2) When you hear the exchange rate, ask "how much does that make 100 trillion worth

 3) Negotiate from there Hope this helps!

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Okrocks:  "Event Horizon" is a good phrase for where we are at... frank used it... others used it too, only earlier than he did ;) there is no going back, taking back, only forward, to the banks we go

New Republic via a GCR: 18 Sept. 2016 Update

New Republic via a GCR: 18 Sept. 2016 Update

Compiled on 18 September 2016 by Judy Byington, MSW, LCSW, ret, Author, "Twenty Two Faces," www.22faces.com, CEO, Child Abuse Recovery www.ChildAbuseRecovery.com

1. On Sept. 17 2016 Zap said,"We are in a designated window of time for the first transfers to complete. This is the final step. When we got here before a catastrophe would usually happen that affected the release of funds. This has already been surpassed as the funds are already released, not just "about to be released."

2. By Sept. 17 2016 two of the biggest banks in Europe - Monte Dei Paschi of Italy and HSBC- had reported millions in losses, resorting in desperate measures to survive. This was not being advertised on the American main stream media.

3. On Sept. 18 2016 Fisher on Real Truth Chatter claimed that the RV/GCR could have gone off during Bruce's The Big Call, and SHOULD have gone shortly after midnight Thurs. or on Friday morning. This, as a result of the World Court decision and the many agreements signed.

A. Fisher also stated that some banks asked for a short delay when they had to admit that they were not fully in compliance with Basel 3 and the legislative rules for liquidity. They were allowed a matter of hours, to come into compliance or they would suffer repercussions of their non-compliance come Monday morning.

B. He claimed the MSM went into news blitz mode in an effort to scare people away from having any business ties with Wells Fargo, which was enhanced and supported by the Congress talking about investigations.

C. Fisher stated that many government people had interests in the old cabal owned banks, which they tried hard to protect by continually delaying the roll-out. When the World Court over-ruled everything they and Obama were trying to help themselves and the bankers.

D. Fisher claimed that while the World Court made certain demands, the Chinese, who want to be supportive and diplomatic, allowed for a bit more time to prevent the banks customers to suffer any loss if their bank collapsed and went into receivership. It was to protect the people, not the bank.

E. Evidently if there were banks that couldn't meet the compliance orders and legislative rules, they would be done with starting Monday morning. There were no more days to be given or dealt with. It was MONDAY or ELSE.

F. The roll-out could happen any time between now and sometime Sunday evening, or possibly as late as early Monday morning.

G. During the wait, the military members and families who had not previously exchanged were being completed and hydrated.

H. Supposedly without the World Court and the Chinese/Russian involvement, Obama and other government officials could have continued the endless game of delay.

I. Any bank not in compliance would be taken down and or taken over

J. If the bank was taken down depositors will lose anything and everything under the banks control, and it will take years for the litigation to get anything back, if you even do.

K. There would be no bail-ins, at all.

L. All European banks except Deutch Bank had no problems, which is why Europe was allowed to do exchanges.

M. There was no public info on European exchanges. They had NDAs as well.

N. The UK was beholden to the US controlled cabal owned banks.

O. The roll-out had to be completed before the remimbi/Yuan went asset backed.

P. There would no longer be any fiat currency in use - not the Pound, Euro or US Dollar.

4. On Sept. 18 2016 Philip Tilton Gary Larrabee - Philip Tilton: Monday Looks like it could be a Breaking Point reported:

A. Intel people have been told to quiet down. The GCR powers have the ability to shut Dinarland calls down.

B. The banks are on their last leg. The two too big to fail banks are failing. They are setting up Deutch Bank up for failure.

C. The bank of Japan was turned off this week and then turned back on.

E. The World Bank was not accepting any more delays.

F. Things would happen by Monday Sept. 19 2016.

G. Phillip had a friend call and said he had exchanged and was liquid with 15 million $.

H. Cuba was not accepting US Dollars.

I. We should have the 800 numbers before Monday.

J. Phillip had a friend in California who went to the bank and was told the Dinar was on screen for $2.79, but they weren't allowed to do exchanges yet.

5. Financial experts were predicting that the stock market decline would continue through at least Sept. 30 2016.

6. The end of the fisical year for the US Corporation was Sept. 30 2016.

7. The gold-asset backed currency of the new US Republic and other countries including the new global reserve Chinese Yaun, was set to begin on Oct. 1 2016.

8. The Oct. 1 2016 activation of the Chinese Yaun was expected to force countries around the world to withdraw from use of the US dollar by using special drawing rights to complete transactions, with a potential of causing massive inflation in the US.

TNT TIDBIT, 18 SEPT

TnDr:  I like this script........ Daz wrote: 

WELL MR BANKER.....I RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION IN THE PAST THAT THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE RATE AVAILABLE DEPENDING ON HOW WE EXECUTED THIS EXCHANGE.

IF THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS BESIDE AN EXCHANGE AT THE INTERNATIONAL RATE, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THOSE TERMS AND REQUIREMENTS IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU OR ANY AT THIS BANK.

Buckeyefan:  Perfectly stated Daz keep it simple don't demand simply ask. I get concerned that due to wait and some previous bank haters some feel entitled…. I like that script Daz.

TNT TIDBIT, 18 SEPT

TNT:

Mfdwhd:  Just got this from my grandson-in-law in Nevada! There is 3 Wells Fargo branches in Carson city. I went by the one I drive by daily, I told the teller I had currency laying around that I wanted to exchange, I told her dong and dinar. She said they exchange dong but not dinar. She tried to pull up the rate nothing pulled up, she got the manager he gave me W/F 800# to call. He said not exchanging right now but that will change soon, come back in a few weeks.

FISHER UPDATE, 18 SEPT

Fisher :The RV/GCR could have gone off during the Big Call, and SHOULD have gone shortly after midnight or Friday morning, this as a result of the World Court decision and the many agreements signed

SOME banks, and we need not name them, asked for a short delay when they had to admit that they were not fully in compliance with Basel 3 and the legislative rules for liquidity

They were allowed a period of time, a matter of hours really, to come into compliance or, they were told, that they would have to suffer the repercussions of their non-compliance come Monday morning

The MSM went into news blitz mode in an effort to scare people away from having any business ties with Wells Fargo, which was enhanced and supported by the Congress talking about investigations and all the crap that goes with that



As some know, many of the government people have interests in the old cabal owned banks, which they tried hard to protect by continually delaying the roll-out, to no avail, when the World Court over-ruled everything they and Obama were trying to do to help themselves and the bankers

While the World Court made certain demands, the Chinese, who want to be supportive and diplomatic, allowed for a bit more time to prevent the banks customers to suffer any loss if their bank collapsed and went into receivership, it was to protect the people, not the bank

If there are banks that cannot meet the compliance orders and legislative rules, they will be done with starting Monday morning

There are no more days to be given or dealt with, it is written MONDAY or ELSE, we can expect the roll-out anytime between now and sometime Sunday evening, possibly as late as early Monday morning

During the wait, the military members and families who had not previously exchanged are being completed and hydrated

Without the World Court and the Chinese/Russian involvement, Obama and the other supportive government officials could have continued the endless game of delay.   Any bank not in compliance will be taken down and or taken over

Coffeeone : Banks not in compliance ....how will that affect their Despositors???

Fisher: depositors will lose anything and everything under the banks control, and it will take years for the litigation to get anything back, if you even do.

There will be no bail-ins, at all…..funny thing is, all European banks except Doosh Bank had no problems, which is why Europe was allowed to do exchanges

Canes2017 : was roll out before oct 1 always a priority?

Fisher : roll-out has to be completed before the remimbi/Yuan goes asset backed.  there is no public info on European exchanges, they have nda's as well, and the UK is beholden to the US controlled cabal owned banks

What is even stranger is that this could have happened a long time ago if depositors had emptied their bank accounts and gone over to using Credit Unions or Sovereign banking institutions

Steamerbill : I Personally Want To See How The Gold Backed Yuan can enter the SDR Basket with the Pound, Euro, Yen and Dollar all being Fiat???

Fisher :  there will no longer be any fiat currency in use, get over the idea