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Monday, August 15, 2016

FISHER UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

Fisher:  Someone copy and paste the upcoming and distribute to all sites...make sure it all gets out, then play Let's Give Em Something To Talk About!

Fisher:  1. THE FOREX SYSTEMS HAVE CRASHED MANY TIMES

2. BABYLON 2 IS INTEGRATED (Iraq)

3. THE GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKS PURCHASED THE MAJOR GLOBAL FOREX EXCHANGES (FAMILIES)

4. THE FOREX SYSTEMS COULD NOT SUPPORT THE GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET

5. THE NEW SYSTEM IS CALLED THE CENTRAL INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE

6. THE NEW SYSTEM WAS TESTED AT ALL BANKS


7. THE FOREX WAS DOWN 12 HOURS FOR TRANSITION

8. AS OF THIS MORNING THE RV SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED

9. THE IMF IS OVERSEEING THE PROJECT

10. THE CENTRAL BANKS ARE FRUSTRATED

Fisher: number 11 might be missing, it was numbered incorrectly

12. THE NEW SYSTEM IS GLITCH FREE

13. THE MAJOR BANK FAMILIES OF THE WORLD WERE IN ON THE PURCHASE

14. THE PTB OF THE PLANET ARE NOW ALL ON THE SAME PAGE TO GET THIS DONE

15. TEST NUMBERS HAVE BEEN ON ALL SCREENS

16 THE PROCESS IS BEING EXPEDITED

17. THEY WANT THIS COMPLETED IMMEDIATELY

18. WELLS FARGO IS NOT THE DELAY OR HOLD UP

19. WELLS FARGO IS THE LEAD ON THE PROJECT

Fisher:  This is why i said Yosef sitrep was not "timely"   Link to Sitrep

KTFA UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

Don961:  All laws regarding the MR are in place as Frank teaches .... It would be nice to get the rest of the laws passed and on the books for Iraq's sake ....

But remember , stuff like this and Mosul are being used to buy the time needed for completing the MR ... which is what the long line awaits ....

I am  looking forward to DRS choice for governor of the CBI ... now that Abadi's ministers are approved and sworn in ....

Tuesdays are cabinet meeting days ... Unlike Parliament , Mr A doesn't let one ministers' meeting go by without accomplishing something ...IMO
 
Frank26:  FINALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    TY DON961.


Fr ank26:  You are Thinking in a Proper Chronological Order of Their Progression Steps.
 
As for PROOF that the MC's have NOTHING to do with the MR is ludicrous because their is NONE.
 
I understand it was an opinion ............ But should have been stated as such ........... Not so boldly and carelessly ........... At KTFA !!!
 
There is VALUE if i SHARED with You what happened with the MC's ........... Yesterday the 15th of August............. Wouldn't there?
 
But tonight ................ YOU KTFA will ask questions and they will be answered IOO.
 
My reluctance is not born from last night's Frustration  ........... It is because i expressed that our 2 by 2 by 2's would require an additional 2 by.
 
Once again .......... What we STUDY as a TEAM at THIS MOMENT in TIME FRAMED is NOT for us to ............ Give.
 
It's all good ............... But this week keeps us in a Limbo .......... Long Line ............. Still waiting for Mosul.
 
The benefiting factor is that they are SCREAMING MANY details on how they will give YOU the Liberation of .............. Mosul.
 
We do wish to show You THREE to ................ SEVEN things that will cause You to smile as You contemplate their Potential.
 
For Example :
 
Iraq told You when they would remove MCP (Multi Currency program) because it would trigger many tangible MR STEPS almost in the Still of The Night.
 
We wish ................... To remind You............. Of that date they gave.
 
Am going to be silent as I watch Your postings and Prayer KTFA FAMILY ................ I so Love You .......... So want to help............... But only with a respectful discipline.
 
C U on Your CC in .............. 8. (7 pm est)

KTFA    Frank

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Don961:  From CC ... important base ....but can't recall if this was posted ...IMO…. This was that pain in the arse base that was causing many problems .... IMO

Wed, 10 Aug 2016 07:48:15

Aljughaifi: edit H3 Air Base west of Anbar, a military operation peek

The leader of the popular crowd Nazim Aljughaifi announced edit base (production wealthy) Iraqi Air western Anbar towards Jordan military operation peek.

He Aljughaifi The joint forces backed by force of border guards and fighters of the clans and the support of the Army Air managed to free the base .. He added that the operation led to the deaths of dozens of elements Daash terrorist gangs , including leading figures prominent in the organization and foreign nationals, adding that the joint forces conducting raids and searches and the establishment of military fortifications along the border with Jordan as a prelude to re -trade movement between the two countries

http://samabaghdad.org/news.php?NewsID=32790

Frank26:  No it was not.

Felt a little disappointed last week that MANY factors we SHARED were not looked into........... Like this.

But TY for posting it............. For it is now WEEKS old.

Since i'm feeling sorry for myself right now ............. The auction numbers should have been calculated by the formula i gave and posted to see the PATTERN we illustrated.

The ratio gets smaller each week!!!

Ok ........... Let me try this again ............ Aloha also means bye ….lol
KTFA   Frank  

MNT. GOAT UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

Hi Everyone,
Let's talk RV today and catch up as the where we are in the process.

Still lots of confusion as how the RV will take place. So let me clarify it for everyone.

Remember this RV is going to be a two stage process. The process is underway but not yet to the parts we really want to see exposed to us.

First they must launch the lower denominations at a 1:1 and then later comes the RV with an increase in value. This article below explains the 1:1 very nicely so there should be no misunderstanding after reading this post today. The new value will coincide with the post war value plus equity.


So  in today's news I am going to re-hash most of what everyone should already know (like preaching to the preacher) but I feel there are still many out there in these dinar communities that - simply put - "still don't get the process" and can't see the trees from the forest. I think this is because they feel they must stay faithful to the same people who led they into this mass confusion, anxiety and stress in the first place.

Please read the article below first and read my comments in bold italics underlined.
Article follows:


Economists divided over deletion of zeros on Iraqi dinar
Author: Amina al-DahabiPosted October 1, 2013

The Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) has been attempting to delete three zeros from the Iraqi currency since 2003. This project has raised many concerns among the Iraqi public and within the business community, and Iraqi economists are divided.

While some support the project and consider it a chance to decrease inflation and unemployment, others warn of economic shocks that may prevail over the Iraqi market as a result of the project’s implementation.
                                      
Summary
While the Central Bank of Iraq has been considering deleting three zeros from the currency for several years, economists remained divided over how markets would be affected.
Author Amina al-Dahabi
Posted October 1, 2013
TranslatorJoelle El-Khoury

Following amendments made by the CBI, implementation of the project has been postponed several times(Why?)

This is because of fears that are mostly related to the lack of security, the presence of a market open to foreign commodities without any restrictions, the prevalence of counterfeit money in the market and rampant corruption in the country.

The independent Iraqi News Agency (INA) quoted Abdul Hussein al-Yasiri, a member of the Iraqi parliamentary Finance Committee, as saying that 2014 will witness the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency.

He noted that the deletion will occur in coordination with the CBI, and that as a result of the project, the number of banknotes in circulation will be reduced from 4 billion to 1 billion. (this alone will increase the value 4 times)

Haider al-Abadi, the head of the Iraqi parliamentary Finance Committee, told Al-Monitor that while deleting zeros from the current currency is possible, this has been postponed until after parliamentary elections.

He noted that studies are being carried out to ensure that, following the currency change, counterfeiting is limited and that Iraqis don’t go back to trading in the old currency.

The step to delete zeros from the currency has been postponed several times(this means it was slotted to go many times and was stopped) leading the parliamentary Economic Committee to demand that the CBI accelerate this project, (okay now you know they are no longer fooling around and mean business and are being aggressive) as Al-Sharqiya reported.

In a news conference held July 6, 2013, the Economic Committee confirmed that the deletion of zeros will lead to an increase in the value of the Iraqi dinar and will have positive repercussions, including a reduction in unemployment and poverty rates in the country. ("will lead to an increase in the value" - means not initially but as the second part of the plan)

Nafee Elias, a financial advisor at the North Bank, told Al-Monitor that the step to delete zeros is merely an administrative process, and the currency equation should remain the same. This means that the purchasing power of the new currency should be equal to that of the old currency. (how many times have we listened to these intel gurus tell us the purchasing power only in going to  increase for Iraqi citizens?, never made sense to me since the value would have to rise too if that was true and it is not true - inside Iraq)

He added that the two currencies should both remain in the market for a period not exceeding three years, then the old currency should be gradually withdrawn.

Elias expected problems to arise if debtor-creditor transactions are not set according to the new currency, or there are defects in withdrawal or payment transactions. He added that it is unlikely the change will affect inflation or poverty rates.

Ahmed Faizullah, deputy head of the parliamentary Finance Committee, agreed with Elias. Speaking to Al-Monitor, he noted that the deletion of zeros will not affect the Iraqi dinar’s purchasing power,(opps there it is again) because the latter is linked to the size of industrial production and imports.

He added that the CBI’s hard currency reserves have saved the Iraqi dinar and served as a cover for it.(proof they need the reserves for the process to be effective and why the IMF said they can't go below 52 billion thus they made some major changes already in the auctions)

Faizullah called for not applying the project at the moment, because it will confuse Iraqis and disrupt the market. (article written in Oct 2013)

Amid these views, Enas Mohamed, deputy director at Naseem Al Shemal Brokerage Company, told Al-Monitor that the stock market will be harmed the most by a change of currency and the deletion of zeros. The price of a share is one dinar, so currently 1,000 dinars are equal to 1,000 shares. Following the deletion of zeros, the new dinar will be equal to 1,000 shares, which would further confuse the stock market, which is already muddled as a result of the security situation.

Amina al-Dahabi is a political-economic researcher and reporter trained in the field of oil and energy journalism. She holds a doctorate in American Containment Policy.

UMMARY:

This is an amazing article and tells us so  much. So let's pick it apart and make some sense of it.

Did you read the article above?  Did you read me comments in bold italics underlined?

Now lets talk about it.

This article confirms that the RV is a two step process.


The First step: I quote from the article above "that the step to delete zeros is merely an administrative process, and the currency equation should remain the same. This means that the purchasing power of the new currency should be equal to that of the old currency. He added that the two currencies should both remain in the market for a period not exceeding three years, then the old currency should be gradually withdrawn".

So how do they get the old currency to equal the new currency value from an RV we all keep hearing about?

For instance 4 of the $25,000k notes today is worth $100 dollars. Then they launch the lower denoms.

The new $100 notes will be worth $100 dollars. Easy one note instead of four notes. No value change yet.

But when they go to the bank to dump (exchange) their cumbersome, extra large 3 zero notes it will be a 1:1. They will turn in 4 of the $25,000 notes for one $100 new notes. Get it? Value stays exactly the same. Still no value change.

So citizens in Iraq will have the exact same purchasing power only they won't have to carry wads of these 3 zero notes of to purchase. Note they did not say 1:1 with the USD they simply said 1:1 with the old currency to the new currency value. Get it? How much this has been misinterpreted in the dinar intel community. 

How does this effect us in USA?
At this point in time there is NO EFFECT to us as dinar holders in the USA. Read my lips - NO EFFECT!
After this you can go to bank all you want and our value will still be 1166-1180 as before.

Why?
Because at this point the notes we hold are still 1166-1180 or $25 dollars per a $25,000 note. ( one tenth of a penny) Right?

When do we make our millions then?

This is step #2: The process calls for bringing the dinar back to the true value pre-war years. This is the bonus for us, this is the RV. But this new rate will not have any effect on the Iraqi citizen as I have said they exchange only 1:1.

Later when they RV if (a big IF) they were to exchange the $25,000 note for the lower denoms they would still get a 1:1 since they exchange rate we keep hearing about of $3.22-$4.20 is for the USA value in dollars. They are in Iraq AND use dinar not USD. Read me lips again NO EFFECT on Iraqi citizens.

So our $25,000 dinar notes get exchanged to dollars. So at an RV of $3.00 we would get $75,000 for our $25,000 note. But the citizens in Iraq are not exchanging to US dollars they are exchanging the larger 3 zero notes for new smaller demon dinar notes not US dollars. By the time the new RV happens they want to have as much of the 3 zero notes already exchanged in Iraq as possible. The e-dinar implementation will also help too since I believe this is why they will use the e-dinar for months to pay people instead of hard currency. (from Sept 1st 2016 thru Jan 1st 2017) This will not put any more new currency  back into circulation and thus limit the possibility of 3 zero notes later. (5 billion monthly payrolls back in to the Iraqi economy).

Now if a citizen goes into the bank and asks for US dollars they would also get the $75,000 with the three zero note as we would after the RV happens, but they hope to collect all of them prior so this would not happen very much. This is the contention and the corruption they are afraid of. Too much money in the hands of citizens which could go to terrorists. But it will still happen to some extent they just want to lessen it as much as possible.

Now let's put this all together in what we have been seeing since January 2016 when they postponed the project to delete the zeros for the third time.
  • New banking regulations - check
  • dismissal of all banking directors in all the major Iraqi banks - check
  • prohibit street exchangers of currency, must now go to a major bank to get US dollars - check
  • the implementation of the e-dinar mandated for Sept 1, 2016, places a paper trail on all currency exchanges, especially dinar to US dollars- check
  • e-dinar lessens the money supply, thus lessens the corruption of getting the dinars in the hands of the terrorists - check
  • sooo many new anti-corruption laws and money laundering laws to punish anyone who still try the corruption. Now there are no loop holes in the law, everything is spelled out - check

So they needed all this time to clean up the financial and banking system. Remember the IMF came into being a major player in the process in Oct 2015 and took trusteeship of the CBI to help them along. This new 5.4 billion loan in bait. Simply like going fishing and bating Iraq to go alone with the needed reforms. Also they do not want to give them this aid unless they can pay it back and the reforms are their assurance. They are supposed to get another 2 billion of the loan by the end of the year.

Do you now see just how close we are to the RV? 

I thought it very. very important to inform everyone just how close we are. We are approaching an RV window like never before. The window is Sept 1st 2016 thru Jan 1st 2017 so hang on to your hats......its coming....at least they will attempt it one more time. This is my opinion but if you have other news please share it in the dinar investment community.

Auf Wiedersehen!
Mnt Goat

TNT UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

TNT:

Locofelipe:  Ok, here we go..... after all the studying I have done, and a lot of conversations with different people (that is all) I honestly believe (without a doubt) that this thing will go live between now, and october 8th. Now I am no guru... I just study-- a alot---

Obviously, I would like to be earlier (the earlier the better-like tonight) But I practical side has to keep me grounded. This is as close as any kind of real intel I will ever release. Hang on.... its coming.

Make plans for the next several weeks..... and pray it comes a whole lot earlier. But there are specific reasons as to why I beileve it will be between these times. No, I won't try to explain all the thoughts that have brought me to this conclusion.

But hey, I figured I would swing this bat and see if I can hit a homerun…. I strongly believe in what I wrote.... I certainly hope I am right. BTW, I have never posted how I actually believed on here. so, now you know... maybe I am THE loco

Tony gave a huge clue, when he and DC were on the calls..... he said, "follow the money" if you start doing that, in earnest.... you may see this thing playing out.

Yada: We are there folks. It's been released and about to hit us. No fluff.

Daz:  I CAN CONFIRM THAT I AM READY, WILLING AND ABLE TO ACCEPT THE RV

Yada:  Daz same here. All my affairs r in order. Just need the release to put them in play.

Jimdun1942:  3 eclipses in 4 weeks starting this week. mars is out of bounds. wild things happen when that is true and this week there is something called the finger of god (yod) with the eclipse

STEVEI UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

SteveI   There is just too much going on in the back ground to support this happening …..that I am extremely encouraged.

There are a few things going on within the ISX that if our team can really confirm, then that alone would put the icing on the cake for me.

I believe that once Mosul is under control we are going to see some very happy days

WINGIT TIDBIT, 15 AUGUST

WINGIT

TNMan:  I, along with millions of others have no idea when this will happen but when I start doubting that it will happen, I just go back to the basics. Iraq's currency was valued at $3.22.
The war changed that rate.

Everyone wants it back to the true rate. Since the $3.22, they have found more oil, gold, minerals, etc. It will go back up.

It is not just the Iraqi dinar anymore. That has, more or less, become a background for the whole world currency change.

When looking at the world financial situation, something either very good or very bad is going to happen soon. It must!

MDS1965:  TNMAN...VERY TRUE...#1 NOTHING EVER STAYS THE SAME, #2 THE FINANCIAL STRAIN CAN'T KEEP UP THE WAY IT'S GOING...SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE...THOSE THAT CAN'T SEE THAT ARE BLIND AS BATS...