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Thursday, July 21, 2016

POOFNESS MID WEEK REPORT, 21 JULY


DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 21 JULY

-21-2016   Intel Guru Frank26    The United Nations did not meet in April or May...it bummed us out because it gave us less hope for...July...but we are excited because the UN is meeting with Iraq now...IMO...they are meeting with Iraq because of what they are doing to remove Article 8...we want to see things faster...but this is a logical approach and...there are a ton of moving parts…and as far as what is going on with the Iraqi Stock Exchange and the IEX...there are things that are going on with currencies that we don’t need to talk about…Why would a company sign with Iraq if they didn’t think they were going to get their rate of return back...   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

7-21-2016   Newshound Guru Millionday
   WE HAVE AN IRAQI BANKING MEETING ON THE 23RD AND ALSO HAVE THE US ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS -- BUILDING A POLICING FORCE FOR IRAQ -- ALL GREAT ACTION AND NEEDED...WE WILL WATCH ISX CLOSELY ALONG WITH CBI ETC...PARLIAMENT IS MEETING ALL WEEK...LOTS OF GREAT NEWS OUT.

7-21-2016   Newshound Guru Islandg1211   ...while the 2nd HALF of 2016 (and into the next 3 years) is for the RECONSTRUCTION PHASE - the SBA/Marshall Plan, and for liberating Mosul.  IMO, the PLAN IS TO RV AFTER THE WAR PHASE to kick off the RECONSTRUCTION PHASE... When this plan for the Monetary Reform, the commitment to liberate Mosul, and the multi-year reconstruction was outlined, the RV WAS INCLUDED. But, the GOI has been non-effective for the entire 1st half of the year.  THEY STILL NEED TO PASS THE INVESTMENT LAW AMENDMENT. THIS NEW JUNE LOI STATES THAT "AS A FIRST STEP" THE INVESTMENT LAW WILL BE INTRODUCED BY THE COM. The Anti-Money Laundering Law needs some additions that the IMF wants to see as well.  [post 2 of 2]

7-21-2016   Newshound Guru Islandg1211  WHY DID WE NOT SEE THE RV "BY MID-YEAR"?  NONE OF THE REFORMS that had been planned got done in the first half of the year.  PRESUMABLY, THE RV IS VERY MUCH A PART OF THE PLAN FOR THIS YEAR IN ORDER TO ADDED VALUE AND HELP WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION OF IRAQ IN ADDITION TO ALL THESE LOANS AND GRANTS. THE GOI STILL NEEDS TO PASS THE INVESTMENT LAW AMENDMENT.  I'm still encouraged that the Monetary Reform is, in fact, being planned by the U.S./IMF with coordination with other countries, the World Bank, and the UN.  A lot of money is expected to pour into Iraq such as: IMF loans, WB aid, UN aid, Other countries' aid, Private sector loans, Bond sales, Deferred Paris Debt.   ALL OF THIS MONEY POURING INTO IRAQ IS UNPRECEDENTED.   ...the 1st HALF of 2016 was getting Iraq (mostly the CBI) in position to receive these LOANS FOR THE RV...  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

7-21-2016   Newshound Guru Adam Montana    Iraqi Parliament does have an influence. The governing bodies in Baghdad and Erbil, the powerful Shiites and Sunnis, and the elected officials that you hear about - they have an influence. Their specific influence, at this time, is regarding the progress of the HCL. We expect to hear that news very soon. But at the end of the day, not one of them can do what the CBI can do... the CBI is the only thing that can change the rate. That's where we are...Final thought....GO HCL!   [post 3 of 3]

7-21-2016   Newshound Guru Adam Montana    When it comes time to RV, Iraq itself isn't even the controlling factor. Parliament is not the controlling factor. Abadi is not the one that will "push the button", nor will Shabibi or the IMF. In fact...an article earlier...shows exactly how little the IMF has to do with anything... they are more and more becoming a useless organization with no more actual influence over the rate of the dinar than the UN has over North Korea. The controlling entity is, and always will be, the CBI - Central Bank of Iraq. And the reason why is extremely simple - because THEY are the ones that regulate and operate the auctions, which is where the rate is set.  That's it. End of story.   [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

7-21-2016   Newshound Guru Adam Montana   As of today, we do not have an RV.  I believe that's because we don't have an HCL, but this isn't an entirely bad thing. I say that specifically because there is no reason to believe the HCL will not go through... it's just not happening as fast as we want. Since we can't control the HCL, or the rate of the IQD for that matter, let's focus for a minute on something that we CAN explain... "Who, or what, exactly, controls the rate of the IQD?"   In the past, there have been a lot of questions about who controls the rate, what entities can influence an RV, does X or Y or Z have to approve, and so on. Let's break this down, and we will all walk away better educated!  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

KTFA UPDATE, 21 JULY

DELTA:  FROM IRAQI TV:

John Kerry praises at a news conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi , but said " we would like to see some reforms faster ."
EVEN JOHN KERRY WANTS ABADI TO MOVE FASTER.   DELTA

ReddStarr:  The whole world wants Abadi to move faster...

James49:   Yeah Delta but the nice thing would be to have Iraq listen to John Kerry and listen to the IMF but what I think is a big problem over there is that Iraq does not want our military over there but yet we keep imposing our will on them

It's my understanding that we are sending 500 more troops over there why don't we just listen to them and let them take care of their own battle that's what they want to do and I figure that way it might speed up the RV.  


DELTA:  HI JAMES49, US PRESENT IN IRAQ IS VERY IMPORTANT, ABADI KNOWS THAT. ABADI WILL GET THE REFORM DONE , AND I BELIEVE HE IS WAITING FOR THE RIGHT TIMING ,

ALSO REMEMBER THE US WILL HELP THEM TO START THE FINANCIAL REFORMS IN THE CBI.  IMO STARTNG NEXT WEEK WE SHOULD SEE SOME ACTION TAKING PLACE.

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Don961:  Just IMO- Abadi MUST root out the corruption before they steal everything coming in and he MUST get people in the government that are qualified to run the country and turn it around for the citizens. Anyone griping about it is tied to the corruption!

Aggiedad77:  Great articles today from you, DB (Doodlebug) , and Redd when he is able to post.....some folks are getting anxious for conclusive action it would seem....but I for one continue to give Abadi a great deal of credit for the effort and work he has put into Iraq as their leader.....

You don't have to agree with me....but just understand that Abadi is fighting war on many fronts, not just with DAASH/ISIS, but with major corruption in all areas of Iraq, and especially so with some higher level government officials who do not want to see their little kingdoms broken down, so they fight him every step of the way....

He battles one side of the clerics of Iraq....that being Sadr who is making demands that he believes need immediate priority....when the ousting of terrorism should be first and foremost on all their minds....

IMO....first things first and Sadr is not there.....he's still got the likes of Maliki and all his goons who are still walking about to deal with.....he has to contend with Iran and their pushy ways.....all in all he's doing better than most want to give him credit for.....hard-headed, shrewd, and very smart....he is......he now has the resignations of those who may have been pushing against him in some less than public ways and he has the opportunity to insert those technocrats he wanted to start with.....

Let's hope they hit the ground running.....my opinion about Mosul.......it's coming....and I'm thinking it won't take until October to start things.....in all likelihood things will be done by October....IMO. 

Don your comments a few posts above this one you made I agree with totally.....keep focused on the most important issue...that of terrorism and eradicating it as best you can.....the protesters and demonstrators can wait.....Iraq needs to shed the dark cloak of terrorism as quickly as possible and they are working diligently in that direction.....IMO.    Aloha    Randy

AWAKE-IN-3D CHAT, 21 JULY

Thanks DPChamp for capturing this chat for us all:

WSOMN:

DPChamp:   Beginning at 11:24pm CDT

Awake-in-3d : Good evening all! :)))

Awake-in-3d : I have been unplugged from GCR Land for the last 8 hours so.... what's going on?

Splash : Hello Awake! Any action in Reno tonight?

Awake-in-3d : Splash - there's always something going on in Reno... Just not always the action we want... LOL

Splash : Can you give us a snapshot of where you think we are?

Pavy : Awake you had said at one time once this starts ( SKRs into spendable cash) it will move very fast , do you still feel this way


wake-in-3d : Pavy - The SKRs will redeem the fastest, because both currency and funds are in an account (of sorts, like an escrow) and done...It's a straight up cash transaction...

KLS : "They have reached an agreement on HCL" is this the last piece of the puzzle?
Awake-in-3d : I am flooded with PMs and texts and emails and such about Rocker's info... I haven't seen it... but let's roll! :)

GEG-Dinar : Awake, A certain guru with the initials DS put out a video today saying that the "Dragon Family" will not be funding the RV of the Dinar, and that the only way you will be getting any funds is to be in a special group. Otherwise you're stuck. Please explain why this individual is off his rocker, or if you somehow think he has any level of accuracy.
 
Awake-in-3d : GEG - DS is dealing with a source/buyer he believes to be the real and only "dragon" in town...

GEG-Dinar : Awake, DS mentioned on his video today there are multiple Dragon Families, but the family he is dealing with are the ones who met in Reno, and are the ones funding what happens there.
Starchild : What is the timeline and schedule?

Awake-in-3d : Where we are right now is that an "issue" is being resolved that gets us to the commencement of private exchanges. Confidence is high that this issue will be resolved very soon..

Soupkettle : Awake...In your opinion...are we really waiting for Sept/Oct for the RV?
Awake-in-3d : The SEP/OCT date is related to the Public side of the GCR - the 99.9% of humanity that has no clue

Dedar : This is what Rocker66 posted:  "The SKR's should be done by Friday and then the next Tier is Private Groups without SKR's WF, received an internal memo to start That was received today.Rocker66 wrote 7m ago SKR groups, private contract groups, internet groups/800 numbers and then public

Awake-in-3d : Dedar - Uh, SKRs are related to private groups and a few other situations (outside of what we consider a private currency group).

Awake-in-3d :  SKRs are simply very quick and easy to transact. They are like coupons.
Dedar :  Awake would you agree with what Rocker posted.

Awake-in-3d : I can "basically" agree with the Rocker info ... the Friday date is a "goal"... please understand the difference between a "goal" and a "deadline"... :)
dapperyute : Awake, can you define soon?
 
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jed54 : Awake, I thought you felt that last weekend was our last "broke" weekend, what changed? Thanks

ffonz : jed ~ comment by Awake should answer for you ~ Where we are right now is that an "issue" is being resolved that gets us to the commencement of private exchanges. Confidence is high that this issue will be resolved very soon..

Crusty :  Awake, Hey ! Are we "The informed internet " considered a private group ? And where do we fit the roll out ?? Thanks

Awake-in-3d : Crusty - No one knows the exact definition of the groups at the general Dinar Land level. The WF group is a private group with a private contract... big group. But where that line ends and the rest of Dinar Land begins is a big gray area...

KLS:  Is HCL the last of the puzzle?

Awake-in-3d : KLS - HCL happens when Iraq gets the word to go ahead and do their thing... Iraq is waiting just like we are.

Avon Lady : opps call me stupid but remember Im still new.... what does SKR stand for ? embarrassed here

kermit53 :  Safe Keeping Receipt… SKR is a receipt given to a client usually from a bank based on a certain dollar value at the time. Meaning the bank will already have a buyer committing to pay them a pre-determined price.

Splash : Given the G20 in China, what could we anticipate once it is over? Exchanging fiat, asset or gb? Thank you.

Awake-in-3d : Splash - The G20 will clearly discuss and do what they do regarding the macro GCR scenario... no information I have indicates that the private side is waiting on the G20 meetings to do anything...

LeeMusic : Hi Awake ~ Given what's happening with the bond market and negative interest rates, do you think the US Stock market will crash - or lose much value BEFORE we get there RV? Thanks!

Awake-in-3d : Lee Music - your question contains a big answer... more than I can fit here in a timely manner. But, the fiat system will collapse under its own weight soon... the GCR is the safety net. The dollar will hyperinflate if the USN is not in place when that happens...
Dedar : Awake the WF group is it the old Gen64 group combined?

Tinman54 : Dedar yes on the WF group

Sleekrose : AWAKE, You stated that the Sept/Oct date was for the Public exchange. How confident are you that groups like the Well Fargo group and the internet group will exchange before Sept/Oct.

Awake-in-3d : Sleekrose - very confident. :)

Gunboat :  So the HCL and RV are tied together in a way??

Awake-in-3d : Gunboat - No matter what is going on in Iraq with any Law, security issue, or RI or RV - it will all happen in lock step when they are given the green light by the same committee consensus that releases our private exchange funds.And the private v public rates will be different.

Avon Lady : Awake ? Do we have any idea when that's supposed to happen

Awake-in-3d :  Guys - I can't keep up with the questions... they are scrolling off too fast. I kinda have to think a sec before I answer... LOL

Awake-in-3d : Avon Lady - when "what" is supposed to happen?

Avon Lady : you said the Iraq was waiting also.. I wondered if you knew like when that was going to be time wise ? sry

Awake-in-3d :  Avon Lady - I believe that Iraq is in a different situation than currencies like the VND or Indonesia... so, they will RI after or around the time the private exchanges begin... or they will wait until the private exchange process is completed. I think they need their currency back and out of circulation before they go public. ~
 
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Splash: Are we Exchanging fiat, asset or gb? Thank you.

Awake-in-3d :  Splash - unless the USN goes public pretty darn soon, the private groups will exchange into fiat dollars. Which is fine by me!

LeeMusic Do you think the GCR will arrive before Stocks crash? Best guess :)

KLS : Thank you for answering my HCL question. Did you make it clear to us, are we are group? Private? Or Public? Thank you.

Awake-in-3d :  KLS - I cannot clarify the general dinar land "group" scenario... that's a no fly zone for me... sorry... :(

Pavy :Awake since things are happening that have never happened and the financial world is falling apart and the Intel is quiet can the rv go passed the end of july

Awake-in-3d : Pavy - The bottom line is, no one knows when the exchanges will actually commence. This has been proven a thousand times as stated dates and back walls come and go, over and over again. So, can the private exchanges go past July? Yes. Are they likely to? I think they will start before then based on what info I have right now. today...
 
Gunboat : What if any mechanisms need to be instituted before we all are able to fulfill our blessing?
 
Awake-in-3d :  Gunboat - there is a specific issue that needs to be agreed to at this moment. When that issue is resolved, the mechanisms for funds release will execute in short order. :)

Awake-in-3d : Gunboat - there is a "committee" (my words, not theirs) that agree to an "all systems go" and then various departments and agencies and certain people each do their thing (roles) related to different aspects of the process.

TurtleIsland1:  What is and where is the ASSET BACKED software? Whom or what agency or group is administering the ASSET BACKED software?

Awake-in-3d : TurtleIsland - The asset back software is an entire infrastructure system. It's called babylon 2... well the general name anyway... It' is shared between the all sovereign treasuries, like our UST as well as certain agencies such as the BIS and others...

Dapperyute : Awake, anything new on ZIM?

Awake-in-3d :  Dapper - as in what... regarding the ZIM?

dapperyute : Will it go at the same time as IQD

Awake-in-3d : Dapper - All currencies we care about will go at the same time...

KLS : If you clarified our position as private, groups, or public, would we be outraged or very pleased?

dpchamp : KLS' Q was: Thank you for answering my HCL question. Did you make it clear to us, are we are group? Private? Or Public? Thank you.

Awake-in-3d :KLS - Some currency holders will clearly be in the public exchange domain. Where and who are on the "private" side, out of all dinar land, is unknown.

Hellen :  Zim:face value? and rate $$$$s or cents?

Awake-in-3d :  Hellen - ZIM rates will be in cents. But like I always say - If they're payin those fantasy high rates, I'll spend it! :)))

Flowerman : Awake. What is your thought on the " better " rates if you have humanitarian projects???

Awake-in-3d : Flowerman - Humanitarian rates are real... but they are contained within specific groups and arrangements. Whether they will be an "opportunity" at the general Dinar Land level is unknown. This is why we should all ask about them no matter what the situation. But then, be ready to discuss your projects with conciseness and professioinalism.
  
Medicman :  Awake when will the eBay, Amazon and Internet currency sales stop?

Awake-in-3d : Medic - good question - we either cannot double dip, via contract terms, or the dealers will be taken off line... but think about it, if you were a dealer, and the currency becomes suddenly way more valuable on a private level, would you sell them at low prices? Nope.

1camman1 : Awake, I've done simple currency exchanges before, however this event is much larger. Because of the NDA, do you think it's necessary for me to bring an attorney?

Awake-in-3d :  1camman1 - I will not bring an attorney, but that's just me. Each of us has to decide that based on our personal situations. That said, I have seen the NDAs involved. They are straight forward. They say, don't disclose this exchange information.

Beloved : Will all countries go at the same time or might some be delayed?

Awake-in-3d : Beloved - You mean all currencies at the same time? No, there are baskets (I don't like using that description, but it works). But the private exchanges are centered around specific currencies. The public side will be a different roll out, progression.

KLS : Are the 800#s real?

Awake-in-3d : KLS - You had to ask that... huh....

Awake-in-3d : There are different appointment numbers as best I can figure out. And, if an 800# can be freely passed around publicly to anyone... by definition, it's not a private invitation, it's public.

Pavy : Awake since things are happening that have never happened and the financial world is falling apart and the Intel is quiet can the rv go passed the end of july

Awake-in-3d : Pavy - The bottom line is, no one knows when the exchanges will actually commence. This has been proven a thousand times as stated dates and back walls come and go, over and over again. So, can the private exchanges go past July? Yes. Are they likely to? I think they will start before then based on what info I have right now. today...

Awake-in-3d : this event can kick off at any time... it really can... once this issue is resolved... which could be at any time. I would not expect any exchange notifications or whatever else to become tangible at our level for the next several days. But I would be happy if it were earlier.

WSOMN UPDATED, 21 JULY

WSOMN

AdminBill:  GOOD MORNING ROOMIES. STILL UNABLE TO CONTACT DC SOURCE AFTER 2 DAYS. TRY AGAIN TODAY. EARLY INFO CONTINUES TO FAVOR SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. MR B SEEMS TO HAVE BACKED OFF SOMEWHAT FROM SEPTEMBER.

NOT SURE IF HE SEES IT JUST AROUND THE CORNER, NEXT MONTH OR SOME TIME IN BETWEEN.

I HOPE TO SPEAK WITH HIM TODAY FOR CLARIFICATION.

MR B IS AN ORIGINAL HOST AND FOUNDER OF THE OM CALL A FEW YEARS BACK. HE IS VERY ANALYTICAL IN HIS PERSPECTIVE WHICH OFTEN HAS PUT HIM AT ODDS WITH OTHER PROVIDERS.

StillOKRocks:  GM BILL isnt Mr B's timeline based on public not private?

AdminBill:  STILL. I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, WHICH MAY BE WRONG, THAT THE PRIVATE GROUPS ARE MADE UP OF 4-5 LEVELS OF WHICH SOME HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.


AdminBill:  THE FIRST TO GO WERE THE UBER LARGE CURRENCY HOLDERS. THEN CAME THE WHALES.

NOW THOSE WITH AN SKR ALREADY IN PLACE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERED TO BE PART OF THE PRIVATE GROUPING BUT OUR TURN IS YET TO BE.

AdminBill:  I AM SUPER EXCITED RIGHT NOW. JUST HEARD BACK FROM DC CONTACT. HIS RESPONSES?

AdminBill:  HIS RESPONSE WAS "NDA"  

stillokrocks : Bill great... so another source bites the bank dust lol

AdminBill:  I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM HIM FOR 2 DAYS…

Dapperyute:  AdminBill, how regular is your contact, is he like us our on a higher tier?

AdminBill:    HE IS MUCH HIGHER BUT HE HAS ALWAYS SAID WE WILL NOT BE FAR BEHIND

DYoungdc:  Admin, lines up with what we are hearing

TaTa:  IS DC under NDA ?

AdminBill:  TATA HE IS NOW

DYoungdc:  Contact in Washington DC...not "DC"

Dyoungdc:  Admin has an incredible team, but hte news of DC contact is incredible if you think about it

RaginCajun:  Kool & The Gang - Celebration-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M

WINGIT TIDBIT, 21 JULY

WINGIT
Awake-in-3D:  Just a quick flyby... I personally know individuals with very substantial ZIM holdings - and who are uniquely 

Awake-in-3D:  Just a quick flyby... I personally know individuals with very substantial ZIM holdings - and who are uniquely lodged and "known" to Sr. Wealth Mgmt. at Wells Fargo.

They are NOT exchanging or being "collected". Please... do not go out and purchase ZIM with money you can't afford to spend, based on today's "SitRep". I don't want to see anyone get hurt. :)

DocW:  Is awake in 3D saying zim may not be exchangeable

Awake-in-3D:  I did NOT say the ZIM was not exchangeable. Not even close to meaning that. I was talking about the SitRep report. No "whales" are exchanging ZIM... yet.

I guess this is why I don't care much for the scrolling chat room mode for exchanging important information.... things can get misconstrued and amplified in a heartbeat... yikes! ; and "known" to Sr. Wealth Mgmt. at Wells Fargo.

They are NOT exchanging or being "collected". Please... do not go out and purchase ZIM with money you can't afford to spend, based on today's "SitRep". I don't want to see anyone get hurt. :)

DocW:  Is awake in 3D saying zim may not be exchangeable

Awake-in-3D:  I did NOT say the ZIM was not exchangeable. Not even close to meaning that. I was talking about the SitRep report. No "whales" are exchanging ZIM... yet.

I guess this is why I don't care much for the scrolling chat room mode for exchanging important information.... things can get misconstrued and amplified in a heartbeat... yikes! ;

WSOMN CHAT UPDATE, 21 JULY

WSOMN
Pavy:  ROCKER any good news u can share

Sleekrose:  Rocker66, No one seems to have captured your earlier comments. Would you be so kind as to give a brief synopsis.

Rocker66:  Yes, the roll out has begun and SKR's are the first part of it. Those should be done the next few days

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Rocker66 : Ok everyone, here is the deal with the Sept/Oct date or whatever outside date there is from the time groups go. So, when reading dates, please keep in mind the following: The Sept/Oct date may in fact be true but for the "public" rate change.

When hearing this stuff they need to at least have the ability to know there is the private side to this and a public side to this

Again, I do believe it will take 6 weeks to clear all level of groups prior to the "public" having access to it. So, dates like that can be true

The speculation part has always been whether this all goes at once for groups start first. It became very clear yesterday the roll out is to get the SKR's liquified and move to the other Tiers.

 I think it is more probable to see a short window of being liquid from SKR's to Tier 3 groups. Not sure the public side is high on the list

With this roll out, there are even various levels of SKR's

Pete : Rocker - thanks for contributing. How many tiers and where do we, the so-called "internet group" fit?

Rocker66 :  Pete, the "internet group" will get the 800's and then go.

Sleekrose:  Rocker66, Is the Wells Fargo Group considered a Private Group?

Rocker66: yes

Splash:  Rocker are we exchanging to fiat, digital or Goldback?

Rocker66:  the asset backed software is live as of Saturday

Pavy:  Rocker what tier is next

Rocker66:  Pavy, SKR's seemed to be the first part of the roll out as this has been confirmed with liquidity

Rocker66:  The SKR's should be done by Friday and then the next Tier is Private Groups without SKR's WF, received an internal memo to start That was received today….. across the board confirmations of liquidity today

Pavy : Rocker are we considered a private group ( us internet folks )

Rocker66 : Pavy, you are ...but it is a Tier 3 group

Everything other than public will go before internet group. However, the spread of time is not wide.....The roll out yesterday started with SKR's so next up is private not SKR groups This should give us a relative timeline

WSOMN TIDBIT, 21 JULY

WSOMN

AdminBill: FOR MY GOOD FRIENDS GEG, RC AND SCOTCHIE...NOTHING IS HAPPENING HERE AND IRAQ IS NOT READY. FOR THE REST OF THE ROOM YESTERDAY WAS A WHIRLWIND OF ACTION AND INFORMATION WITH SEVERAL INDEPENDENT CONFIRMATIONS FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES OF SKR CONVERSION TO CASH.

WAITING TO HEAR FROM MAIN CONTACTS TODAY WHO HAVE BEEN SILENT SINCE YESTERDAY.

IT IS AWESOME TO HAVE THE HOPE WHICH IS A GOD GIVEN QUALITY BUT NECESSARY TO USE ANOTHER GOD GIVEN QUALITY - DISCERNMENT.

IN THAT RESPECT PAY ATTENTION TO GEG, SCOTCHIE AND RC AS THEY BALANCE OUT THIS ROOM ALONG WITH OTHER LIKE MINDED MEMBERS.

Blondie: IMHO everything is pointing to this going down at any minute. If pulled up the article on my earlier post regarding the Canadian bank bonds, the situation is critical. Also, the emergency G20 meeting in China!

SilverFox:  Bruce says thinks soon; doesn't believe September / October