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Friday, June 10, 2016

TNT CC NOTES, 10 JUNE

TNT Call notes 10-June-2016

RayRen:  [TNT Rap]  [audio checks]  Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family!  Today is Fantabulous Friday, June 10, 2016.  It’s a good Friday!
As the tweet said, there is not a lot new intel.  We are pretty much in the same place or space as earlier in the week – political issues in Iraq that may or may not have to do with the RV. The banking sector over here is looking for it, it’s past due, we don’t know whey we don’t have it yet.  There are issues of Iraq needing loans, cash flow, etc.  We talk to intel sources, citizens, and people with no idea… but still, here we sit, waiting.  We do believe, and that belief factor says “sit tight, it’s coming”. 
If you are here for intel only, thanks for being here and enjoy your day. There are some reassurances like reports of some people exchanging on the military bases, although that stopped due to worries about chaos and overload.  We are still hearing about exchange centers being ready and waiting, positive bits and pieces, and variations on intel.  Take out the part syou have faith and belief in, and don’t worry about the rest.
We have heard before that the bank folks are in training sessions, but now we are hearing about multiple banks being represented in the same location.  Before it was bank employees in their particular banks, but now banks are coming together to be updated on the foreign currencies we are interested in.  Some are being administered by Iraqis you may have heard ot.  Everyone is being tight-lipped, but we are dealing with humans and sooner or later they will say something.  If you get ten bits and put them together, you can get some good information.  That’s the process – no one source is telling us everything, but one might say something with appropriate caveats, and then another source says a little bit more, and our members add a bit more, and all together we have something.  It also gives up conviction to continue holding on, knowing our time is coming, despite all misinformation and naysayers.  We get those niblets, put them together, and that gives us a nice puzzle to look at.  We see where it is going and we just wait for it.  Those bits and pieces are saying to me, “Oh, it’s coming”.  We all know it’s on the screens.   Bankers can see it, but they cannot do anything with it yet, at least not on the full scale, or for all of us.  I will say that there is an intended date they are looking for, and I won’t say what it is, but it’s not today.  However it is an intended date, and I like that part.
That’s all I feel is safe to say.  Let’s see what the members have put in Q and A.
Q:  About MR (monetary reform), is the international status of their currency being held up by the need of finalizing reforms related to clear out corrupt officials and policies?  Do you know of specific laws or decisions to this as needed to be implemented or completed?  A:  No, I don’t.  What I have received from Iraq is that there is still concern for corruption and money ending up in the wrong hands.  That has an impact on the process.
Q:  Will this go past June?  A:  No.  I have no idea what will happen but I hear that this is it, especially with the intended date that I’ve heard.
Q:  Can we put the IRAs into a trust?  A:  No, an IRA is an individual’s account, and the trust is an entity. That’s an interesting topic, but I don’t see how to bring you into the call so that we can address it.  Please could this questioner please shoot me a PM?
Q: Is there any truth that after the 06/14/16 the ZIM will be of no use?  Read on Recap that the ZIM is good for six days starting yesterday and ending on the 14th.  A:  <laughter>
Q:  Do you feel there are any new points we should be aware of for our exchange?  A:  No.
Q: If for some reason the architects of the plan decide to abandon notification to us by a release of 800#'s – what other forms of notification do you feel may be utilized?  How would you roll this thing out to us?  A:  Only one bank to my knowledge intends to provide an 800 number.  I haven’t heard of any other banks intending to supply 800 numbers.  If they are on the verge of exchanging, you’d think those people would know so that people can call and come in in an orderly fashion.  My understanding is that the bank that does have an 800 number has three people they intend to send it out to.  Whether I am one of those three or not, we have enough irons in the fire to find out.  The minute we know beyond a shadow of a doubt, we will send this out by tweet/text and email.  You don’t need to be a member to sign up for the tweets;  it’s free and you don’t have to like me to do it.  To sign up for tweets, send a text message to 40404:   in the message line, type Follow @THE_TNT_TEAM and then hit send.   Whether you are a member of TNT or not, this way you will receive the tweets, updates, and numbers.  The banks will have a way for you to contact them for exchange appointments.  If we don’t get the special 800 numbers, you can call their foreign exchange department on the bank’s website.  If necessary, we will gather all the foreign exchange numbers and put them on our website.  That’s how I intend to roll this out.
Q: When the money comes in and we need to purchase something for a ministry overseas, do we get a black card and will it be good?  A:  That’s an option.  I think the best thing to do is to talk to your banking people, tell them what you want to do, and let them advise you.  They may say to use the black card, or they may set up something else for you.  I think some of us are focusing too much on what to tell the banking people to do, instead of asking them.  Just tell them the end result that you want, and ask for what they recommend as the best avenue to get that done.  If my end result is that I want X  dollars to end up at point B, as easily as possible.  You might think of a cashier’s check, but they might have something easler and better.  Ask for their best recommendation, and they might suggest a wire transfer or whatever.  I don’t know what they can do, and what might have been the cutting edge 15 years ago might have been superseded by now.
Q: If we were to buy more currency, which would you think is better?  A:  This is a loaded question based on what is being stated.  If you don’t believe what is being stated, then it’s a ‘best guess’ situation. Some currencies are iffy, some a few sources don’t belief will revalue, and some are almost as good as gold, like Iraqi dinar.  With Iraq’s history, etc., that’s pretty likely to revalue.  Other currencies are not as certain.  I know of some people who have already exchanged, and everyone looks to the dinar rate being $3.71.  Do the math:  how much does it cost to exchange into dinar, and then into US dollars at a later date?  Do that for the others that seem likely.  I think you will do pretty well with the main four – they seem very possible.
Q:  Do you believe Abadi’s tweet that Mosul and Fallujah are liberated?  A:  Which tweet?  I’ll have to take a look;  I don’t know the wording.  I want the tweet that says the dinar has been revalued!  News from Iraq and banks has been quiet, but now I have this intended date… We should focus on being prepared for AFTER this happens.  We know it’s going to happen, we just don’t know when.
865/404 caller:  Can you speak about contract rates?  Is the time frame being shortened because this has been going on for so long?
RayRen:  I haven’t heard anything like that;  there haven’t been all that many contract exchanges going on. Some of our own members said that they rejected the offer to exchange because the rates are low.  I don’t think that the contract pool is empty.
Caller:  Will there be a call of a pre-RV on Monday?
RayRen:  I don’t know;  we’ll have to wait and see what happens.
Caller:  Verification, negotiation, diversification, and Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Next caller:  I’m a group of five with a reasonable amount of the currencies, and we want to know that we are safe after the RV, controlling rather than owning, and anonymous as much as possible.  We know that there can be trusts and foundations, and we’ve talked to a couple of attorneys and a financial planner skilled in foundations.  We get different answers.  We are thinking that we should set up a trust and give the currency to the trust beforehand, then exchange within the trust.  Or should we wait until after the RV?
RayRen:  Should you do this before the currency revalues?  Or before the exchange? You need to create the entity before you exchange, but it doesn’t have to be done prior to the revaluation.
Caller:  So we should make the appointment and then create the trust?
RayRen:  You are in a position to do that, but most of us won’t have the money to pay your professionals until after the exchange… so do it then.
Caller:  Revocable vs. irrevocable trusts?
RayRen:  In a revocable trust, the grantor has the right to take something back out and own it again.  If I sue you, I can make you change your mind and take those assets back out of the trust.  If it’s irrevocable, they cannot do that.  But you don’t want to own those assets – that is the purpose of putting it in the trust.  You have relinquished ownership of that asset.  You don’t want to own it, although you do want to call the shots on how it is utilized.  Be a controller rather than an owner, such as a trustee, officer or fiduciary in charge.  You the representative will have the say on how to use those assets, without having the liability.
Caller:  I want to retire and still have access to these assets…
RayRen:  No, you want to focus on moving to the ultimate job, where you can do whatever you want to do and be paid handsomely for it.  Owners want to retire;  controllers have a boss who let them do what ever they want and pay them for it.  I focus on access but not vulnerability.  Yes, that would be income, but that’s okay.  Once you understand the rules, you can move pretty freely.  In the charitable community, the rules are straightforward and specific, and therefore easy to follow.  There are few things that you can’t do, so you don’t do those things and everything falls into place.
Caller:  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
RayRen:  I’ll be in Dallas on Sunday, having dinner with Texans who want to hang out.
773 caller:  In an article in Bloomberg, it talks about the global economy.  How closely do you think global financial events are affecting what we are waiting for?
RayRen:  I don't dwell much i the financial arena. Because I don't have the time to investigate it I stick with talking to bank folks and Iraqis.  My plate is full dealing with all that.  Post-RV I'll make sure to have one person to keep track of global financial events that may affect us then.  In any case, I can’t do anything about that.
Caller:  I just don’t know whom to ask.
RayRen:  Who do you think will actually tell you the truth?  That’s another challenge.  What gives me comfort is when I have banking people excited about doing this for us, and then get mad when it doesn’t come through.  Last year, banking people weren’t talking to us like this.  They are being more open and that should speak volumes to all of us. How many times have bankers been talking about what they are doing in 2016?  How many times have Iraqis been protesting in the Green Zone?  We need to look at the grand scheme of things rather than just me, me, me. I'm at complete, total peace that it's going to happen.  My day will come, and I’ll keep breathing and waiting, and when it comes, it will take care of everything.  I’m at peace with that.
When this RV happens, we will have a whole lot of time and a whole lot of money, neither of which we have now.  Many will quit their jobs, and you’ll have more time to learn what’s going on in the world. Before we were focused on what was happening in our jobs, go home and relax, and go back the next day. Post-RV, we will have that time and also professionals to help us know when to move our assets, how safe it will be, etc.  I’m trying to learn about those things now, but I’m still broke, busted and disgusted.  After the RV, I will rely on their expertise, and it will be so much easier and less stressful than worrying about things we can’t do anything about anyway. I'll have them break it down for me like I'm a third-grader. No point stressing about it beforehand.
Caller:  Donate if you can on www.tntsuperfantastic.com.
Next caller:  Own nothing, control everything.  I appreciate that you are optimistic but realistic.  I have two accounts in major banks for this.  Yesterday I talked a personal banker and asked if they verify on site.  I also asked for ZIM rate, and it was on the screen!  Dong was also on the screen.  He asked how much I had and was positive about it.  When I got home he had emailed me about the future.
313 caller:  I have dong and dinar;  what others are in the first basket?
RayRen:  The ones I’m interested in are zim, dong, dinar, rupiah, Afghani and the Iranian Rial.  I believe all six are in the first basket.
[Nothing new is being reported, so I’m hanging up now.  Check the Cliff Notes for Ray’s closing remarks.]

RayRen played I Believe:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA 

Highlights of TNT conference call, 10 JUNE

Highlights of TNT conference call.  Updated as the call progresses.
Ray:  Not a lot of new intel to share.  . . in the same place/space as earlier in the week.  Political situation in Iraq that may or may not have an impact.  Banking sector still looking for it and saying it's past due, don't know why it hasn't happened yet.  Bits and pieces of Iraq needing loans or cash flow. Lots of excuses left and right.
CURRENT WINDOW:   Ray:  There is now an intended date to be looking at.  Not today.  It's an intended date, not a definite date. . . I am in complete total peace that we are going.  It's coming.
Caller:  Does it look like this will be extended past June?  Ray:  No!  Everyone pretty well saying this is it now with a targeted date popping up.
IRAQ:    
  • CBI     
  • Banks 
  • Demonstrations:  Expected to continue until the people have manifested what they are demonstrating about.
  • TV              Mosques 
INTERNATIONAL:    
  • IMF    
  • RV Currency Basket:  In this first basket to RV is the Dinar, Dong, Iranian Rial, Indonesian Rupiah, Afghani and ZIM.      Ray:  There are others as well.
UNITED STATES:    
  • Military Exchanges: reports of one or two people this worked for.  Ray reported there was a base that was exchanging and then stopped because of enormous calls and chaos.         
  • Banks:    Ray:  Some new developments we like, is the training sessions in banks. Now it's getting to be almost normal - heard it more than once that multiple banks training at common locations about foreign currency exchanges.  Some training has been taught by some from Iraq. . . A year ago we did not have stuff like . . . bankers going for training, staying in hotels, getting mad because it did not happen. 
  • 800#'s:  only 1 bank Ray has heard of, at this time, that intends to issue an 800 #. Ray:  I understand they have three selectees they will give the number too.   Other banks have indicated they would not issue an 800 #.   Tweet, email and text will be used to notify everyone that is on the TNT subscription, whether you like TNT or not.  
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EXCHANGING:   
Q & A: TNT Forum
Q. -  MR - monetary reform. Is the International status of their currency being held up by need to finalize reforms related to corrupt officials or policies.  Ray:  Don't know of any specifics.  There was concern for corruption or money winding up in the wrong hands gave pause for the process.
Q. -  Does it look like this will be extended past June?  Ray:  NO!  Everyone pretty well saying this is it now with a targeted date popping up.
Q. - Possible to put our IRA's into a Trust?   Ray:  No, they are individual.  Not sure what you mean.  Ray mused about how to bring this questioneer into the call so he could address this question completely.
Q. -  Any truth past June 14th the ZIM will be of no use?  Read it on recaps.   Ray just laughed.
Q & A: Callers
Q. -  Contract rates?   Exchange time?  Ray:  I have not heard anything like that.  Have not heard of large scale exchanges taking place on contract rates.  I do not think they have been exhausted by any manner.
Q. - For protection should we set up an entity . . .  Ray:  The RVing of the currency is not the issue.  Should we get it done before currency revalues or before you go to the bank to exchange it.  I'm of the persuasion to get it done prior to going in to do the exchange but do not see it needs to be done prior to the RVing of the currency.
Q. -Invest in gold?   Ray:  If you believe in all of what we are doing, like I believe, half of the message put out there is for middle class America.  Still listening to poor man strategies on how to get ahead.  We are going to be ahead.  We are going to look at staying ahead.  Some of it is hidden from our view because we don't have the cash flow to even be invited to look at it.  . . They don't give that kind of information on talk shows and put it in books.
Q. -   Ray:
RAY’S CLOSING STATEMENT:
While there is still time look into the Roth self directed IRA's.  ID's, what do I need?  Ask these questions while there is still time or when calling in to make your appointments call in at that time.  Get your house in order.  Be ready so you don't have to get ready.
Until that time comes . . . don't know exactly what we are waiting on.  Some say CBI, BIS over here over there.  Some say Wells Fargo.  The one's who really, truly know what we are waiting for are not talking.
You have all these others sites out here telling you what can be, what will be. . . You tell me what is taking place and I will deal with the.  
With this new intended date - I won't leave you hanging.  Sure we still looking for this to wrap up in June.  Will they come true?  I don't know.  I report, you decide.
It's Friday, it's fantabulous Friday.  Let's go enjoy.  We can't make it happen.  Sit back and enjoy the weekend.  and wait for the word.  It may come tonight, Saturday, etc.  The wod will come when it comes. When it comes we will sit back and enjoy it.  I believe it, . . . now and in the future. (played "I Believe)

WINGIT CC, 10 JUNE

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DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 10 JUNE

6-0-2016   Newshound Guru rcookie   Article:  "We will attend the special meeting: Kurdistan is invited to attend"  Quote:  "The Kurdistan Alliance, announced Thursday that he would attend the special meeting to be held during the holy month of Ramadan, in case it has been invited to attend."   SO KURDS ARE ON RECORD OF ATTENDING SPECIAL SESSIONS DURING RAMADAN IF CALLED....

6-10-2016   Intel/Newshound Guru Backdoc
   COUNTRIES SEEM TO BE ALREADY USING THEIR RATE CHANGES BEFORE  IT GETS TO US!   ...THEY PUT 80% OF THEIR DEBT IN DOLLARS...AND...THEY CALLED IT A CLEVER MOVE?  WELL HERE'S WHY!  THEY GET A HIGHER SOVEREIGN VALUE FOR THEIR CURRENCY NOW AND THEY CAN USE THAT CASH TO EXTINGUISH THE MONOPOLY MONEY DOLLARS!  HEE HEE.  THE INTERESTING THING IS THEY ARE DOING IT ALL BEFORE IT EVEN HITS THE STREETS, OR AT LEAST SOME OF IT NOW!  HOLY COW! AMAZING!   THEY CAN ONLY PLAY HIDE AND SEEK SO LONG...THIS COUNTRY TO COUNTRY STUFF HAS TO COME TO AN END!  ITS TIME TO MAKE THE DONUTS BOYS AND LET THE PUBLIC GAMES BEGIN!  PRIVATE SECTOR LAUNCH PLEASE, AND NO LATER THAN MID-MONTH THANK YOU!  

6-9-2016  Newshound Guru Breitling  …If I was to go to court and someone would say…”you said it [the dinar] was going to come out at a buck seventeen.”  I’d say, No, I didn’t say that…the Iraqi Parliament said that.  The CBI’s made those statements…I just followed it.  “Well you said that it would come out after a while after they reduced the note count to a certain number that there target rate is $3.25.”  I didn’t say that…The CBI made that statement.  The Ministry of Planning made that statement.  Parliament made that statement to the IMF when they asked if the IMF can help them regain their economy so they can get back to their original rate.  That’s how you should play the game.  There is no guessing…time frame is what we’re battling against.  If you guys only knew you wouldn’t worry because it’s a reality thats coming down the road.  None of this is based on hype.

6-10-2016   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    [SIGR Report...THIS REPORT WAS SENT TO CONGRESS...(it appears to be from May of 2014). IT PLAINLY SHOWS IN THIS REPORT THEY EXPECTED THE DINAR TO REVALUE AT AROUND A DOLLAR IN 2013.]   This is...from the “Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction” – May 2014, quarterly report to Congress. For members of our Government to say they have no idea what is going on here – means they haven’t read some very basic documents presented them.  I point out this is a highly speculative investment. We are, in no way, guaranteed anything. However, this SIGR report gives us some valuable insights...It points out there having been a legitimate “plan” – or time frame in motion…having been projected to be done in 2013. We are obviously in “over time” now.  Though no guarantee of the actual future plan they wind up engaging – this report points out an increase in value that would have taken the Dinar from “one-tenth of a cent” to a value “of slightly less than $1″…This is PUBLISHED INFO FOLKS…NOT HEARSAY...

WSOMN CHAT, 10 JUNE

WSOMN

Lostnq8:  if you follow some of the other teams, the 15/16 are critical to have everything in place which means by next wednesday at the latest

RaginCajun:  if iraq delivers to letter of intent to the imf on the 15th, the loans are a go, it would only make sense the value of thier currency would increase. the amounts of these loans t 1182 makes no sense.  

RaginCajun:  Frank stated iraq was given a 20 day extension on May 28, that brings us to June 17th

Evenstar:  Good Morning...Backdoc had a really good post last night on everything​ happening on June 15th   Link

BREITLING REPORT, 10 JUNE


Intel from Bruce's Call 9-June-2016

Bruce - Everything was ready to go today.  Lead bank was ready to go.  We heard this earlier today.  We know that it's right there.  We also heard that yesterday afternoon the Zim was going to be the reserve currency for the continent of Africa. Bruce heard from a source and Yosef mentioned it a couple of months ago.
Yosef - Zimbabwe president made a public announcement yesterday about what the Zim would mean to the continent of Africa.  What does this mean to you and i holding currency? In theory Zim could be the most valuable currency in the world, given the valuable resources in Zimbabwe.  Zim could be the cure/saving grace for humanity moving forward. 

Bruce - clean up going on in Africa in terms of rogue gangs and other evil taking place.  Also heard that Vietnam is sovereign nation, Philippines is well, Brazil has handled most of it's political problems and has RV'ed Brazilian Rial.

Yosef - and because of this, the rates are higher in those nations.  Dinar, Dong, Zim, Brazilian Rial, Philippine Peso, Iranian Rial, and that's great for our brothers and sisters in those countries.  But USA will be last.  Heard that rates at US banks were frozen on the screens last night, unfrozen this morning, may freeze again tonight.  Redemption centers are doing final security checks, food was brought in for workers tonight.  We also heard about June 15

Bruce - Regarding June 15, we heard that Shanghai Gold Exchange may take lead on gold and help orient a free market with gold. Also heard that oil will be managed by HSBC. Change in the guard there.  
Yosef - negotiations ended on Shanghai deal.  Agreed that June 15 would be transition date.  Period prior to June 15th where "old business" would be settled - meaning the RV would happen BEFORE china transitions to gold backed.
Bruce - Redemption sites - when we go into the centers, we cannot take cell phones, cameras, or any recording devises because these are private transactions.  SEcurity measures are in place to ensure that that will be the place.  Bruce suggests to leave it in the car.  
Yosef - suggest we do not wait!  If you are out of town, change your plans immediately.  Rates will be highest first 6 days and difference will be substantial.  Staggering difference in rates after day 6.  Almost 7,000 redemption centers, so 6 days should be plenty of time to exchange all of us.  If you have gifted money to friends and family, you are responsible for telling them about 800 numbers.

Intel Highlights from "the Big Call" Thursday 6-9-16

Intel Highlights from "the Big Call" Thursday 6-9-16

Lostnq8:  Bruces call is starting - anyone want me to add notes

This is a live call but wont be super long -

Guests Yosef, Bob, Pastor Steve and Sue

Bruce - intel - coming up

Bruce - everything ready to go - WF in position to release notifications - some issues stalling

Yosef discussing zim - incorrect rates have been given out - zim is valuable - could be a valuable continent due to natural resources

He is mentioning rial and others - seems like the US is totally last in the food chain
15 June – hear- say – ShengHai gold exchange to take world lead in free market

Jack Lew in China this week - agree to 15 June transition - just before then old biz cleaned up = this means us

Redemption centers - no phones recorders cameras etc allowed - private transactions - security in place but not detailed - leave this stuff in the car

Approximately 2hours for the appointment

When 800s come out get er done

Rates high first 6 daze then drop like a rock

Really dont know how many peeps may have currency - lots may be gifted and dont have a clue

Make sure your deener friends know of the 800s - IMHO put on your oxygen mask first then help others

That that thats all the intel folks

Snake:  If we have 6 days until the rate drops and that is projected as the 15th and if my math is correct and today is the 9th we had all better sleep with our phones tonight

JackU:  hi from my readings the IMF and Iraq has an agreement that this has to be completed by the first half of this year for them to go international . I they do no they can not trade goods including oil…. does anyone else remember this

WSOMN CHAT, 10 JUNE

WSOMN

AdminBill: WSOMN Through the Month of June

It is my opinion, based upon the information that I have received personally and the information that team members receive and share that the likelihood of this occurring in June is high. I am still of the opinion that we may see this event transpire before June 16th based upon speculation regarding moves in play by certain Asian governments.

Should it not occur before the 16th we may still see this before the 30th of June. This should not be new to you because this has been my position for several weeks

What happens if we move into July?

AdminBill:  Okay. What does happen? Nothing really in the world as we know it.

Life will go on. The elections coverage and the constant barrage of political lies, promises and rhetoric will continue through the summer unabated and choke full of BS.

Should we move into July I will be making a few significant changes to the site that, I hope will still keep you informed but not glued to the room.

First and foremost WSOMN Forums such as this will remain open for you to share information with the board or send PM's to your friends. The second change will be the complete closure of the Chat Room six (6) days out of each week with one day of the week with the Chat Room set to be open for a 24 hour period.

The third and final change will be a WSOMN Conference Call schedule every other week on the same day the Chat Room is open in order to ensure the topics are timely and the discussions are in line with what members want to discuss.

It is my opinion that should we not see the RV/GCR in June we will not see it until after the November elections. It could of course happen but nothing being said appears to suggest anything different.
 
AdminBill