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Thursday, June 9, 2016

TNT: Zimbabwe Dollar Question, 9 JUNE

Dsjapan:So if the 100 000 000 000 000 (100 Trillion) Zimbabwe dollar note RV's at .22, how much is that worth on RV?
And is the 2008 AA note the one to buy?

Asking for a friend... :)

Rvdone:f they LOP 6 zeroes each bill would then be 100,000,000 X .22 = 22 mil
That would be so cool...but so hard to believe.

Elgin:ony has said that he believes only 6 zeroes will be deleted, not 9. But this is what he has heard and he has no documentation. So there is reason to be optimistic that there my be magical returns - but it IS possible that 9 zeroes would be lopped which means the 100T would be worth 22K and not 22M.

That is still a good return on less than 10 dollars, but be prepared for the possibility that it may not be 22M.

Me, I am hoping for the 22M!


diane

Beneagle:From which of the dealers can I purchase Zm currency? Thanks

Elgin: you can buy (10) 100T 2008 AA series zimbabwe notes on amazon for 111 USD on amazon. You can also just buy one for may 8 dollars and shipping. 

Rosy: I bought my zim dollars here: http://astore.amazon.com/dinare00-20?node=64&page=1

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 9 JUNE

6-9-2016   Newshound Guru Bondlady   Article:  "Oil exports to America have tripled since January last"   this is so important and significant for Iraq...during saddams peak of exporting oil...his top was 3 million barrels of oil per day...with a dinar exchange rate at that time was approximately 3 to 1... 3$ to 1 dinar...Wink.  ...granted the oil prices was a lil higher then but there over 50$ a barrel now, plus they no longer waste, burn off the gas now, they export it ...the reforms are so important... to set Iraq back on the correct path for economic success..imo.

6-9-2016   Newshound Guru wmawhite
    Article quote:  "IRAQ LOOKING WITH EU FOR ASSISTANCE TO JOIN WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION..."  Any idea why it is the EU stepping forward to assist and not someone else?  Look at where most of the investment is coming from to date into Iraq...the EU...The EU is biting at the bit ready to jump into Iraq.  [Any idea how long WTO take to complete?The WTO process is a multi year process...however, Iraq started it's process over 10 years ago...They are near the end of the process.  [Is it true their currency has to have some kind of value for Iraq to gain acceptance to the w.t.o?]   it will be in Iraq's benefit to trade with the IQD at its true value.

6-9-2016   Newshound Guru rcookie
   THE NEWS SINCE MONDAY IS SMOKIN!!  Article quote:  "IRAQ LOOKING WITH EU FOR ASSISTANCE TO JOIN WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION..."  SO THE EU [EUROPEAN UNION] IS GOING TO WORK WITH THEM FOR FULL ACCESSION TO WTO...

6-9-2016   Newshound Guru Aggiedad77
   ...Iraq is building...and the international world is coming...they seem to be attempting to be so transparent in what they are doing...Abadi is leading this new "dream" for Iraq....what a leader and commander he is turning into...seems "we" have done a great job coaching.  

6-9-2016   Newshound Guru rcookie   ...THINK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF RE-ENGAGING THE OCCUPIED AREAS OF FALLUJAH AND MOSUL FULLY FOR IRAQS ECONOMY AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT FOR IRAQ TO ONCE FULLY LIBERATED...FINALLY START TO GET RAW...PURE ACCURATE ECONOMIC DATA REPORTING FROM THESE AREAS THAT WILL LEAD TO UNSKEWED FINANCIAL & ECONOMIC NUMBERS TOWARD... GDP...CPI..INFLATION... PRICING STABILITY ETC...FOR THE INT'L AGENCIES REPORTING THAT RELY ON THIS TIMELY...ACCURATE...TRANSPARENT DATE REPORTING....IT IS HUGE AND COMPLETELY WHAT THE IMF..WORLD BANK AND WTO MUST HAVE...

WINGIT CHAT, 9 JUNE

WingIt:

Beams:  zap: I DO HAVE GOOD NEWS FOR US NOW, SO THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR ANY EMOTION OTHER THAN JOY. I HAVE TALKED WITH BOTH EUROPE AND CHINA. IN CHINA, GRANDFATHER IS ABOUT A WEEK AWAY FROM THE PUSHING OF HIS BUTTON AS ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAD TO BE PUT IN PLACE HAS BEEN COMPLETED

zap: THE RV IS MOVING FORWARD NOW AND THE COMPENSATIONS OF THE HISTORIC ASSETS HAS BEGUN. CERTAIN LARGE AMOUNTS OF CHINESE BONDS HAVE BEEN PAID AND ONE DINAR PROGRAM HAS PAID ONE GROUP ALREADY AND THIS IS VERIFIED

Beams:  Chinese yuan is stable against the basket of currencies
​ http://english.cctv.com/2016/06/08/VIDETByoeE2bQ5zsOZ7fH1yG160608

Beams: US dollar destroys economic miracles 09.06.2016 The US dollar conq​uered the world during the 20th century. Nowadays, we can see the proc​ess taking a U-turn as an increasing amount of countries tend to switc​h to national currencies.http://www.pravdareport.com/business/finance/09-06-2016/134665-economi​c_miracle-0/

R ay's CC Cliff Notes, Wednesday., June 8, 2016 - FINAL

Highlights of TNT conference call.  Updated as the call progresses.

Ray:  Can't get some things confirmed yet so still no new intel.  Nothing new not heard since Monday.  Still in the same situation.    In a minute by minute, day by day process on any developments that may take place. . . Progress is being made.  The wheel is still turning.
CURRENT WINDOW:   Ray: Don't have anything indicating this is going to take another couple of days or another couple of months.  The Iraqi's not talking that way.  The announcement that the reforms have been completed would suggest that it is in country.  If all the reforms are completed that would be to an International rate.  
IRAQ:    Ray:  Cards not completely funded as anticipated at the beginning of Ramadan as was told to their people.
    • Ramadan is not considered to have an effect on the economic reforms being completed.         
    • Fired Bankers:  Ray:  Don't know they had an effect on it so firing them won't have an impact on it either way.  
    • ISX is up and running.  Ray:  They have been running the stock exchange for a couple of years now in country without an International currency.
    • TV /Mosques No recent reports from the mosque's
    • Demonstrations:  Ray:  The most serious gripe was the corruption.  Even with a revalued rate, how much difference will that make for the people if corrupt government people keep taking it? 
INTERNATIONAL:    
  • IMF    
  • ZIM:  Two years ago we were told the 100 Trillion and 50 Trillion notes were the denominations that would be exchanged.  Now Ray is hearing they will take additional denominations.   Ray:  Banks are starting to tell people some rates like 2-3 cents.  I haven’t got an update on that yet.  We hear they are being seen on some screens. 
UNITED STATES:    
  • UST:    
  • Banks:  In the past bank employees have been called in at nights, holidays, weekends.  Ray:  USA banks been ready for weeks. . .as late as even yesterday some bank sources had high expectations, calling in their people to be ready and in place.  Yet we are still here waiting.  And we did not have any definitive information anyway.  I understand the frustration. How many more times can we keep hearing it's going to happen tonight, in the morning?  The banks are being told that revaluation is imminent.  That doesn’t mean they are being told the exact day and hour, just that they need to position themselves with staff in expectation, because everything was very favorable for this to pop.
     
  • 800 #'s still expected from at least one bank. 
  • POD:  stands for "payable on death" clause to put on your bank accounts.  If something should happen to you name the loved ones who can get what's in the account without going through red tape, probate or delays.   
  • Self Directed Roth IRA:  Can be important to a lot of you. Ray: This must be personalized.  Look into it for some of you.
  • Lost Opportunity - Paying with cash:  Check this website out:   bit.ly/payingwithcash  or also on the internet under http://rayren.webs.com/Lost%20Opportunity.jpg.  Ray:  Pull that down, read it understand it and make whatever decision you want to make.  At least it will be an informed decision on what you know not an uninformed decision on what you don't know.  Check it out.
EXCHANGING:   When referring to the currency to exchange just refer to it either by country or currency.  Avoid using the letter designations like, "IQN" "VND."  Ray is going to say, "I am here to exchange.   What has the highest rate?"  
Q & A: TNT Forum
Q. - Is there another step before we can see the RV in the USA?   Ray:  I don't know of one or if there is one. 
Q. - New currency in Iraq which makes the Dinar we hold obsolete?   Ray:  I haven't reported any such thing from my sources.
Q. -  Any additional information on the announcement of economic reforms?  RV'd to International rate?  Ray:  I don't know what the announcement is to be until it's made.  The announcement that the reforms have been completed would suggest that it is in country.  If all the reforms are completed that would be to an International rate.
Q & A: Callers
Q. - Can more than one account be covered by FDIC?  Ray:  This is a question for your bank.  Going to make this your homework assignment.
Q. - I'm currently away from home in California.  Can I exchange one note?  Ray:  I don't think you will have a problem with that. . .with exchanging one not wherever you are.
Q. -   Ray:
Q. -   Ray:
RAY’S CLOSING STATEMENT:
 Ray:  Let's not forget the three "tion" words.  Verification, Negotiation and Diversification.  They are very important.
 ID's.  Make sure you have valid ID's.  Some will accept expired ID's and some won't.  Check and make sure it is still acceptable.  They can clearly see it is you, your picture matches your face, but you might run into that.  Try to find out ahead of time if it will be accepted.
We are already in the time-frame.  Don't have anything indicating this is going to take another couple of days or another couple of months. The Iraqi's not talking that way.    This thing is too liquid and it's moving.   We receive information one day, it changes within the hour.  Or the next day it's moving so slow it has not caught up to us yet.   Even their intention cannot have a time stamp on it. We just have to watch it, knowing it will move until it comes to completion.
Hold onto the faith.  One day is her day, one day is his day . . sooner or later, my day is going to come.  This keeps me going.  (played "I Believe").

TNT CC NOTES, 9 JUNE

TNT Call notes 8-June-2016

RayRen:  [TNT Rap]  [audio checks]  Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family!  Today is Wednesday, June 8, 2016.
As the tweet said, there is no new intel.  If you are here for intel only, thanks for being here and enjoy your day.
For those remaining, let’s do a little training.  Every call serves its own purpose.  There have been reports in the news about the cards not being 100% funded as we were told it would be at the beginning of Ramadan.  There are several answers as to why, but that doesn’t change the reality.  We don’t really know what has impact and what does not, and by the time it’s behind us, it won’t matter – it will be past history. Let’s focus on the things we can do something about, rather than what we cannot affect.  Perseverance and patience are our best friends now.  The US banks have been ready for weeks, some called in at night or over the holidays, ready to man the stations… as late as even yesterday some bank sources had high expectations, calling int heir people to be ready and in place.  Yet we are still here, waiting patiently and optimistically.  We didn’t have definitive information that this would happen last night.
I understand the frustration.  How many times do you want to hear “it’s happening today or tonight?”  My intel sources have not been giving me that kind of information.  I like to stand on concrete information, and that is not exact.  They are NOT saying “this is definitely happening at 10am today” but progress is being made, and sooner or later that wheel will stop just where we want it to stop.
That’s the best intel I can share with you right now, and it’s no different than what we had on Monday. Let’s see if there are questions on the forum.
Q:  Are you going to be doing a seminar in Oklahoma or will Dallas and possibly Wichita be the closest ones?  A:  Yes, there should be a meet-and-greet in Wichita.  Look in the forum for the  post by Shoelady.
Q:  Have the Iraqis in country had their cards been loaded with international rates?
A:  there are some news articles saying they have been funded, but not all of them yet.
Q:  Now that it seems that the cards are being loaded and distributed to most of the Iraqi citizens, what is the next big thing that needs to happen before we see the release of the 800#’s over here in the US? Is there another step? A:  I don’t know what the next big thing that needs to happen, or if there is a next step.  Clearly there is some reason the 800 numbers have not been utilized yet, but I don’t know what that is.
Q:  There is a rumor that has been floated around several times that Iraq is going to introduce a new currency which would make the Dinar we now hold obsolete. Is this a possibility?  A:  I haven’t reported any such thing from any of my sources. 
Q:  There seems to be confirmation that the Iraqi Stock Exchange is up and running – ISX.
A:  Last I heard it was up and running.   They have been running the ISX for a couple of years now without an international rate, because it’s all in country.
Q:  In a recent blast you said, "The banks are all online and ready to go. There are unconfirmed rumors of an announcement of the reforms being completed, more information is being pursued…."  Is there any additional information on the "announcement of reforms" and was this specifically intended to be a global announcement of the currency being reinstated to the "pre-war" rate, or revalued to an international rate?  A:  I don’t know what the announcement is intended to be until it’s actually made. The rumor is that the economic reforms are completed, and that implies an international rate to me.
Q: Can you comment on the 6 bankers that got fired and if that had any impact to this RV and, if so, what that might have been?  A:  No.  I haven’t heard they were holding up the process, so being fired wouldn’t have any impact on the process.
Q: Do you believe that we must await the conclusion of Ramadan before the RV exchange process can commence?   A:  It has already commenced, it just hasn’t reached our level.
Q: There is an article out about continued protesting.  Can you speak to what the citizens’ most serious gripe is about?  Would you agree that if MR and a new, high rate was in place for them that we would see celebrations instead of protesting?  A:  Don’t understand;  what is MR?  The most serious gripe was the corruption;  even with a revalued rate, how much difference will that make for the people if corrupt government people keep taking it?  So that is the biggest gripe and it would be for me as well.  The RV will come, so we don’t have to fight for that as much as for equal rights and representation.
Q: I bought some currency from dinarcorp.com. I went there the other day and they are not there anymore (on the internet). Have you any information as to why they are not on the internet anymore?  A: That particular company had issues and were shut down last summer.  Google the company name and you can learn more about that.  Or ask in chat and I’m sure someone will update you.
Live calls:
832 caller:  At the exchange centers, are we supposed to use the code IQN, or just ask to exchange Vietnamese currency?
RayRen:  I don’t believe in teaching people their jobs.  I would go in and ask to exchange at the highest rate possible.  I will say the Vietnamese dong, and if they say there are several codes, I will ask for the one with the highest rate. I know what I want, and I don’t want to complicate things.  I won’t go in trying to tell them what it is.
Caller:  Are we still expecting an 800 number at this point?
RayRen:  That’s what I have been told, at least from one bank.
313 caller:  There is something I’d like you to before the call ends:  what do I then require to exchange?  I have a niece who is listening, and she needs to know what ID to take, and what to say – just the basics when it is done.  Which IDs will they accept?  And then what is she supposed to say she is there for?
RayRen:  You just did it!  I heard two photo IDs will be necessary for an NDA, so bring two photo IDs if you have them.  If you are married, husband and wife both have to sign an NDA.  Even if you live in different states, If you are still married, both have to sign.  You are there to exchange not to ‘cash in’; that may not mean much at the bank but might be significant afterwards, and it conditions you to do it the right way and remember it the right way.
Caller:  Are they accepting all the denominations or only some (of the zim)?  I bought 100 million and 500 million notes for more grandkids.
RayRen:  We were always told that 100 trillion and 50 trillion zims would be exchanged. That was two years ago, and now we have members who have visited the banks to make their plans, and they have been told that all denominations can be exchanged.   We will find out for sure on the day. 
903 caller:  [didn’t hear the question]
RayRen:  Do you have access to the forum?
Caller:  Not any more.  I tried to get the update from the forum but couldn’t find it.  I could only find the tweet, which I had already received.
RayRen:  Did you open the Latest Blasts folder?  You have to click on that folder to find the various updates. 
Next caller:  Why didn’t this happen when the banks were so ready?
RayRen:  I don’t know.  Just because we are ready, that doesn’t mean it will happen that day.  We get ready to be in position.  The banks are being told that revaluation is imminent;  that doesn’t mean they are being told the exact day and hour, just that they need to position themselves with staff in expectation, because everything was very favorable for this to pop.
567 caller:  I recently read The New Iraqi Dinar Investment Guide, and it said that George Soros  has invested heavily in the dinar.
RayRen:  I wouldn’t know – how would they know that?
Caller:  With all these bankers knowing this is coming, why wouldn’t they invest?
RayRen:  Some of them bought currency and quit!  We still communicate from time to time, but not like we used to because they no longer work at the bank. Most signed agreements that they would not purchase currency.
Caller:  When will it be possible to sign up for the Vegas event?
RayRen:  Not until after the RV.
340 caller:  [cannot hear caller] rate on zim?
RayRen:  Zim is starting to get my attention because the banks are starting to tell people some rates like 2-3 cents.  I haven’t got an update on that yet.  We hear they are being seen on some screens, and that is enough to make me keep an eye on that.
419 caller:  In the event this comes to fruition while I am here, and I ask my daughter to send me 25K one note, I don’t belong to any bank here, so what is the best way to take care of that so I can use those funds from one note.  Can I exchange one note?  My bank is not out here.  Would I have a problem exchanging that one note?
RayRen:  I don’t think you would have any difficulty exchanging that one note there.  They will want you to open an account with that local bank, and when you go back home, you can still utilize that account electronically.  That could be part of your diversification strategy and therefore beneficial for you.  One note at the rate we are hearing for dinar = 25,000 x 3.71 = $92,750, and I don’t think you will have any monthly fees on that!
Caller:  When you present the bulk of your currencies, you should be able to get a better price, so that was another concern.
RayRen:  You probably can, so when you take in that single note, start negotiating.  At least, that‘s what I would do.
Caller:  I hadn’t thought of that aspect.  Maybe I will end up moving!  With the 250K limit on being covered by the FDIC, is that one account or all accounts?
RayRen:  Call the banks and ask them now, before you get stressed out.  That is your homework.
Okay, let’s remember verification, negotiation and diversification in your plan of action. Make sure you have valid IDs;  some banks will accept expired IDs and some won’t, so check that yours are valid.  Check with the bank beforehand if it will be accepted.  If you cannot do that today, ask when you are making your appointment.
Make sure you haven’t missed ‘lost opportunities’.  It’s always worth thinking smart.  Go to the forum and find that post I put in about lost opportunities;  it’s also on the internet underhttp://rayren.webs.com/Lost%20Opportunity.jpg.  Read it and then make your decisions.  It will eliminate an excuse, at the very least.  At least your decisions will be based on what you know rather than what you don’t know.  We will have a special call on that subject.
Make sure you set up POD (payable on death) to transfer that account to your chosen beneficiary so that if any thing happens to you, it goes to your loved ones without probate or delay.  There can be multiple recipients;  the bank will help you sort that out.
Look into self-directed Roth IRAs;  that can be very important to many of you.  Whatever you do, do it from a perception of your own knowledge and intelligence.  You’re going into a whole different lifestyle when this hits, so get out of ‘this is what they say’ and start learning, understanding, and implementing what is best for you and your family.
We are already in the time-frame.  Nothing is saying this will take another day, week or month.  This is liquid and moving.  We receive information and it changes within the hour, or we get intel in advance and then find the action has only just started.  Sometimes we are told intentions.  I do expect this Iraqi dinar will revalue and the other currencies along with it.  All we can do until that happens is to have patience and perseverance as we wait it out. Sooner or later, our day will come.  Just keep believing.

RayRen played I Believe:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA