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Monday, April 25, 2016

TNT C C NOTES, 25 APRIL

TNT Call notes 25-April-2016
RayRen:  [TNT Rap] [audio checks]  Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family!  Welcome to Monday, April 25, 2016.  This is RayRen98 here.  
Let’s see what we have to talk about today.  A lot has happened over in Iraq with the Parliament being turned upside down, people being sacked… we are waiting to hear from Abadi on the cabinet positions.  And what about the bonds?  The 15th has come and gone, and no one will speak to us about the bonds.  It’s way overdue, and maybe it’s been put on ice as they get the cabinet together.  It could be a reason, and it could just be a scapegoat.
In Iraq, the banks got a memo, but we don’t know what it said.  Some of the exchangers are upset over being shut down, although that was a good sign for us of things yet to happen. We were told some time ago they wanted to freeze that currency and then revalue it.  They have effectively frozen it, and that could be a sign of things moving along but we cannot put on our finger on exactly when.
In the US, some banks were looking at Saturday night and others at Sunday night and this morning.  What’s happening there?  Today/tomorrow sounds a lot better than October, November!  That wasn’t a promise, it was an expectation.  I don’t know when Abadi is going to make his announcement.  That depends on his decisions and the power of his office.
To wrap up the intel in a nutshell, I thinking today, tomorrow – more tomorrow than today.  Time will tell all.  That is the intel this morning, unless something comes up during Q + A.
Questions from the forum.  Please don’t write a paragraph – one question is better.
Q:  Do you know the current situation with Maliki?  How do you think he is affecting the process?  A:  I don’t think he is affecting it at all.
Q:  Do you see the RV lining up for the Fall?  A:  No, I see it in the Spring – NOW.
Q:  Do you see Mosul as a factor?  A:  Personally, I don’t think it is a factor, although it might be an excuse.
Q:  Can you share on unbelievable piece of info?  A:  No.  It  has to make sense to me or I won’t pass it on.
Q:  What are the Top Ten things you plan to do after the RV?  A:  My Top Ten is what I will do, and you will do something different.  We are at different levels of thinking and of finance, so we can’t all do the same things post-RV.  There are some things we can all do, but the  last thing I’m going to tell you is ‘go shopping’.  I don’t know where your mind is with wealth.  Sure, I’m going shopping after the RV – if it happens today/tomorrow, I’m going shopping this week!  Because I already have entities, and I don’t have to do any of that prep work that you need to do, so I can go shopping but wouldn’t recommend it to you until you get everything done that needs to be done.  Sure, if you have your eye on a house, do that right away.  ‘Shopping’ is getting multiple vehicles all at the same time.  So shopping shouldn’t be on your Top Ten, but it is for me, and also hanging out on an island… and if the zim comes out like they say it should, I might buy the island!
Q: What security measures would you have in place post-RV?  A:  Protect your identify and your accounts, but I’m not going give details of my person security measures.  Everything is based on individual choice and preference.
Q:  Super Bowl person question?  He’s doing okay, more popular than he wanted.
Q:  At one time it was said there would not be any more sales of dinar and dong, but we can still buy both… A:  I never said there would be no more sales of dinar/dong, although I believe that has been stopped in Iraq.  What you can buy not may be what they have in their inventory, or your dealer’s supplier’s inventory.  When those are exhausted, you will not be able to buy dinar.  That started in Iraq a few weeks ago; I don’t know how long before we see the impact on this side of the water.  When that supply runs out, we will see the end result of no more dinar available for purchase anywhere.  Iraq knows where the currency is that they plan to redeem, so if they stop that circulation, they can pull the switch any time they want, because it’s not going back to Iraq anyway.
Q:  Another long question… have private exchanges occurred this past weekend?  A:  I haven’t heard anything about this weekend;  waiting on information from the banks.
Q: What is the effect of asset-backed currency on prices post-RV?  A:  I don’t see that we need an answer on that situation – there are too many viewpoints.  I’m taking a back seat approach and see what happens.  At that point, you will have a lot of money and access to professionals who can help you navigate that with ease.  I am going to sit and wait on that, as there is nothing to worry about.  I will wait until I have money and professional people willing to talk to me. You will have people to answer those questions and give  you help along the way.  It’s all hypothetical until it happens, and I want professional people to walk me through that.  I suggest you do the same.
Q:  Can internet groups be processed before the general public?  A:  that’s what we have been told and I assumed it’s still the case.
Q:  I am confused about contract rates vs. international rates.  Is there anything illegal about taking contract rates?  Who benefits?  A:  I guess the governments benefit;  I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on that, especially as we cannot get clear answers.  It is certainly not illegal.
Q:  I could give my adult children currency beforehand, but I’m thinking of keeping the currency to get a higher rate, then give it to my children through trusts.  A:  Good idea.  There is no inheritance tax involved in either scenario.
Q:  I am 80 and want my daughter to exchange for me – any problem with that?  A:  Not if you give her a power of attorney and everything was purchased in your name.
First caller:  Are you indicating the window is ‘any time, any window’ or are we still on ‘before the end of the month’?
RayRen:  The banks are focusing on today/tomorrow.  A memo went to the banks in Iraq, and Abadi is replacing people.  Until we get more information, we don’t know what will pop up.  We are looking for signs until we see reality.  The bank memos – that is a sign, even if I don’t know what’s in it.  Abadi replacing people – that’s a sign, even if we don’t know who, why and where.  Funding the bonds would be a sign.  It’s frustrating and exciting at the same time.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  And Texas!
301 caller:  Can you imagine Jack Lew helping Iraq revalue their currency?  [Can’t hear the caller – Jack Lew is the Secretary of the Treasury.] 
RayRen:  I don’t know where they are in the process, so I don’t know how instrumental how anyone going over there can help.  It could be posturing.  I don’t know who this is;  that doesn’t interest me.  Until we know what the issue is, we can’t say “Hey, now Jack Lew is over there, the RV is done.”  He could be over there for some other reason.  In the  past, we have assumed some dignitary went to Iraq for reasons we wanted, and later found out it was about something else.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
918 caller:  during the exchange process, would the upper management of the bank answer questions concerning their position on bail-outs, bail-ins, derivatives and Basel II requirements?
RayRen:  I would think so – I don’t see why they wouldn’t.
Caller:  I would ask for their answers in writing.  If they are going to be so open and transparent with us now, I don’t see why they wouldn’t.
RayRen:  There should be something in print to support that information.  The answers to those questions are not secrets.  They will probably say “a certain percent is in derivatives and this is how we’re going to handle that”.  I will listen to how they are dealing with that, and the impact on their viability.  If they explain that, I won’t need it in writing because things change, but I want to know where they are and where they plan to go.  If it’s a good enough plan, then I won’t let the derivatives be as big an issue as some people make them today.  If they cannot give me the information, then I will go elsewhere.
Caller:  I will exchange with the bank, then put that money into other state banks, credit unions, precious metals, etc.
RayRen:  Take into consideration that we are not the first people in the US becoming wealthy and even super-wealthy.  Look at what the super-wealthy have already been doing.  You can at least look in that direction if it’s working for them.  What are the super-wealthy doing today to feel at peace about their money.  Look at what the pros are doing and follow suit.  We won’t be looking at those issues on this call;  we will go to their offices at the right time and we will find out where these sources and opportunities are, so we can have the same peace of mind as those who went this route before us.
405 caller:  We’ve all been looking for different signs from Iraq.  This doesn’t seem to be about Iraq as far as the actual RV being released to the world.
RayRen:  The revaluation of what to the world?  All the currencies?  Okay, I’m with you.
Caller:  How much of the process that has been revealed do we have a handle on? What percentage is done?
RayRen:  A long time ago we were told that Iraqi dinar is the lynchpin here.  If not, why didn’t we just keep rolling instead of waiting on a country split into three parts?  Why would we keep waiting on Iraq if they were not a major player?  The process couldn’t exist without them.  If we think along these lines, we will be more at peace with the process.  We won’t let all the mess on the internet affects us.  That’s how I’m thinking.
Caller:  We know who the major players are, but don’t know who’s pulling the strings.  If you don’t know the players or the rules, we are just along for the ride.  At one time I was very excited about every piece of good news, but now I just stay calm, pray, and know it’s going to happen.
RayRen:  That’s my approach, too.  Look for the opportunities, because every day this doesn’t happen, there are other opportunities if you are paying attention. What else can you do, what do you need to do to keep moving?  Some might buy more currency, others may work on other things while they are waiting.  Currency opportunities keep coming up.  We all started with the Iraqi dinar, then the Vietnamese dong… remember when we were happy at the prospect of the dong being three cents!  Then the Indonesian rupiah came up, then the Afghani, then the Iranian rial, if they ever removed the sanctions.  Then the Zim came up, from Zimbabwe.  Many of us hold all of them, and some hold other currencies as well. If you want to buy more currency, and you don’t have any spare money, see what other resources so that you can be in front of this so that when this happens, you will be further down the road.  On OM we trained about self-directed Roth IRA, which this is a vehicle for asset planning for retirement.  Now I hear success stories about converting a 401k into Roth IRA, and then using that to buy more currency.  Think creatively about money you have set aside for retirement, so that you can be in control of that money and make it grow. How much better than a slow-growing 401k and transfer it to another account that will bring you 3,000%.  That is a shift in understanding.  Some people can still do this;  get in touch with Roth IRA companies and see if you can convert your retirement funds into something that performs better.  We have every conviction that this will happen and we are just waiting for it to come out from behind the curtain.  There may still be a moment, an opportunity to position yourself better using a little of that retirement money.
Next caller:  How is Shabibi?  He is going to be part of the new cabinet, isn’t he?
RayRen:  I have heard nothing official about Shabibi, so I won’t speak on that.  I don’t know that to be a fact.  Is that what you want to happen?
Caller:  Yes, because he can make the RV happen.  I was hearing from another guru that Dr. Shabibi is the only one who can drop the lower denominations, and then we would have the RV after that.
RayRen:  I don’t believe he is the only one who can get something done.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  Go RV!
707 caller:  If I have enough zim to reach over the cap, so there will be a structured settlement, can I give half to my daughter beforehand?  When I call the 800 number, do I tell them the total amount?   When I get there and if I find there is a cap, I don’t have to give half away.
RayRen:  We don’t even know if there will be a cap!  The bank people I talk to say they don’t know about how structured payouts can be done, from a legal standpoint.  You’re taking something worth two trillion dollars’ worth of currency.  You want to exchange it for two trillion dollars.  How can the bank say, “we will exchange one trillion and will dole out the rest over 20 years?”  How does that work, legally?  Is it really the bank’s job to decide you don’t know how to manage your money? 
Caller: I did make out a gifting letter to my daughter, without the amount, so I’m prepared.
RayRen:  Let’s look at that.  Let’s say I have given my children what I want to give them, but I have three trillion marked for my own use.  Does it really make sense for me to give the kids a trillion each and then what?  Do you expect them to give it back?
Let’s say the banks found a way to do a structured payout;  would that be such a bad deal?  So I get a trillion upfront, and I get a further trillion over time.  I would never spend the trillion in the bank to do one thing.  I would finance everything from the monthly allot-ment I’m going to receive.  For some folks, that would be a disciplined way of how to spend your money.  I would finance everything from that structured payout, because any bank would give you a loan on those terms.  Who cares about house payments if they are made automatically from the bank account.  That would still give me plenty to do all that I want to do.  It could be a win, if they manage to set it up as a legal plan/option.
Next caller:  You have been talking to a lot of doubting Thomases.  I have a plan – they can send all their currency to me and I’ll burn it for them!  I have already learned to wait. [Appreciation]
914 caller:  I have a trust question.  I heard another call that says you must have your trust set up before the RV if you want it to be tax-deferred.   
RayRen:  The only tax-deferred trusts are those which act as qualified plans.  To me, it doesn’t make any difference if it’s post or pre-RV.  If they tax the RV, either you or the trust is taxed after the RV – it’s whoever does the exchange.  The taxable activity is converting it into US dollars.  If that is taxable, the person or entity doing the exchange is what will be taxed.
Caller:  I have a trust but it’s not a good trust and I don’t want to use it for this.  What about the banks setting up a skeleton trust?
RayRen:  Two people on OM talked to banks about this (amongst other topics). One member talked to four bankers with eight pages of questions.  When he asked about shelf trusts, the bankers said they would be trustees on those trusts, and trustees call the shots.  They have to agree with what you want to do with that money.  Ask the bank and the wealth managers about those shell trust:  what is does, what purpose it serves, and what role the  bank plays.  You can get those questions answered today.  You want to know about shell trusts now, not in the heat of the moment, or during your exchange appointment.
For those concerned about a delay today – this is your opportunity to ask these questions and get the answers before you exchange.
602 caller:  Is there anything since Wednesday about what’s happening in the mosques or on Iraqi television?
RayRen:  The only thing I’ve heard is that Sadr is asking for a stand-down on the protests while they take stock of what ‘s going on and the end results, whether it had an impact on the government and the RV or not.
Thanks for your understanding – I had a tough time last week with sickness, and it’s hard to keep finding information.  Then last weekend I took my wife out of town, something we had arranged a year ago.  Thanks to those in Louisville for hanging out;  we had a good time.  We are still waiting for information.  Our banking contacts are saying today/tomorrow; they seem to like Tuesday for some reason.  I’m really waiting to see what Abadi has to say, how sound is his government and are they happy to move forward.  So we wait, patiently, and consider today another opportunity to do what you want or need to do before the RV.  It’s not too late to set up a self-directed Roth IRA, for instance.  I had a member say that to me just today, that she set up a self-directed Roth IRA with currency in it.  Let’s take advantage of the information and tools we have now;  you’ll be surprised at the beneficial results if you put those things in place.  If you can get some of those things done pre-RV, get them done and out of the way.  Then you will be ready.  We will continue to hold on and bring you the information that makes the most sense.  We are in this together…

RayRen played I Believe:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA 

TNT:Ray's CC Cliff Notes, Monday, April 25, 2016

    • sunny said
      10:17 AM Apr 25, 2016
    Highlights of TNT conference call.  Updated as the call progresses.
    Ray:  A lot of political things in Iraq, parliament being turned upside down, folks fired.  What about the bonds?  Contractors to be paid with the bonds on the 15th.  The 15th has come and gone.  Unanswered questions over there.  Way overdue. . . We can't find anyone who will speak to us about the bonds. . . Funding the bonds would be a sign.
    . . . I don't see anything lining up for fall.  I see it for spring. . . Who knows what's been done versus what's been done of what needs to be done. 
    CURRENT WINDOW:   Ray:  Window any time, any moment.  Going with that.  Some (banks) looking at today and some at tomorrow.  Not a promise, just there expectation.  They can't call the shots.  I'm waiting to see what Abadhi is going to say.  . . . Are they ready to push the switch?
    IRAQ:    Ray:  Heard sometime ago they wanted to freeze the currency and then RV it.  The lock down of the currency was a good sign of  things yet to happen.  Well, they have effectively frozen it, just can't find the when of the RV. 
      • Cabinet - Abadhi's Announcement:  is unknown when he will announce the new cabinet. Abadhi is maneuvering and replacing people. Ray: Announcement from Abadhi is a sign.  Getting the cabinet together could be the lynch pin to bringing things together or it could be the scapegoat. 
      • Maliki:  Ray has no new information on him but does not think he is affecting the RV.         
      • Iraq banks received a memo and Ray considers this a sign although he does did not yet know what the memo said.  
      • Iraq bonds issued to contractors were scheduled to be paid at $3.53 on April 15th 
      • Mosul unrest:  Ray personally thinks it's not a factor but is a good excuse.
    • Demonstrations:  The cleric Sadr has called for a stand down by protesters.
    • Dinar Sales:  Ray:  You did not hear me say there would be no more sales of Dinar.  Iraq stopped sales as far as distribution goes.  No one will get anymore currency out of Iraq. . . Dealers still have inventory to be sold.  When dealers and distributors exhaust their inventory, there will be no more.  Iraq knows where all it's currency is that will be redeemed.  The redeemed currency in the US will not be returned to Iraq.
    INTERNATIONAL:    
    • IMF    
    • Rates:  .    
    UNITED STATES:    
    • Private Exchanges:  Ray has not heard of any that happened over the weekend.    
    • Banks:     Were looking both at Saturday and Sunday.  Some looking at today and others looking at tomorrow.  Ray:  I like that.  Better than them looking to June or July.  Not a promise, just there expectation.  They can't call the shots.
    • Packages:          
    EXCHANGING:   The internet groups, that includes TNT, are to be processed/exchanged prior to the public.
    Strategic Planning:  Can convert your IRA to a self-directed Roth IRA and use those funds to purchase currency.
    Q & A: 
    Q. -  All the currencies were bought in my name.  I'm older.  My daughter has my POA.  Do you think this is a problem?  Ray:  Not at all.
    Q. -  Put currencies in a Trust for minor children? Inheritance tax on it?  Ray:  No inheritance tax if you do it properly.
    Q. -  Jack Lew helping them prepare for RV?    Ray:  I don't know where they are in the process.  It could be posturing.  We don't know what needs to be done or why he's there.  He could be there for a reason that has nothing to do with the RV.
    Q. -  Can the bank answer questions about bail out's, bail in's and being Basel compliant?   Ray:  They should be able too.  I'd be disappointed if they couldn't.
    Q. - Can a Trust be set up after exchanging that will qualify for tax deferment?  Ray:  I don't know what kind of tax deferment they are referring too.  Pre or post RV does not make any difference.  It's who is doing the exchange.  If RV happens today and you create Trust on Wed. and put the currency in the Trust and the Trust exchanges on Friday, then the Trust will be taxed.  No taxation until you do a taxable activity.
    Q:  Trust set up by bank? Shell trust? What's your thoughts?  Ray:  I have not questioned the bank on that.  Two members have.  Bank indicated they would be a Trustee on a shell trust.  Trustees call the shots.  Ask the bank yourself.  Let the banking people tell you exactly what a shell trust is and the role they are going to play in it.  Get this done before the exchange.  You don't want to be at the exchange and asking these questions at the same time.
    RAY’S CLOSING STATEMENT:
    Thank you for your patience and understanding.  Tough time last week dealing with sickness.  Then to go out of town for the "Thunder over Louisville" event that we said we'd do last year for a birthday.
    What are we waiting for?  Information like we always have been.  Recapped our banking contacts.  A lot of folks looking to Tuesday.  I have no reason to look to Tuesday.  I'm waiting to see what Abadhi is going to say.  How sound is their GOI?  Are they ready to push the switch?
    So we wait and while we wait, do what you need to do before the RV happens.  For those of you who thought it's too late. there is the Roth IRA.  It's never too late.  Put the tools in place now, while you still can.
    Some of those things we worry about, taxes, asset protection, inheritance, put those things in place.  If it can be done pre RV, jump on it, get it done and get it out of the way.

WSOMN CHAT TIDBIT, 25 APRIL

WSOMN:

AdminBill: REPORTED NEWS FROM CONTACTS: EXCHANGE CENTERS ARE SECURED. NO MORE SHARED INFO UNTIL DONE. INFO CONTINUES WITH AGREEMENT RAYRREN MEMO STATEMENT. THIS INFO WAS PROVIDED EARLIER TODAY BEFORE RAYREN CALL.

Greenrage:  AIN'T NOTHING GETTING DONE WITH THE RV/GCR AND PROSPERITY PROGRAMS WITHOUT THE OITC'S INVOLVEMENT" ~

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WINGIT CC NOTES, 25 APRIL

THE WINGIT CALL NOTES ~~ APRIL 25th, 2016
 
NOTES CAPTURED BY LIFE IS ART AND MALLY, TRANSCRIPTIONS.
 
GERRY WAS PRIVILEGED TO HAVE BROUGHT US THE EXCHANGE PROCEDURES INFO FROM LAST EVENINGS CALL. WAS IT FROM A BANK. NO. BUT, FROM A VERY WELL PLACED INDIVIDUAL.
 
IKO, I'M HOPING THAT THAT CALL LAST EVENING HAS PROVIDED YOU WITH A LITTLE MORE CONFIDENCE IN THIS PROCESS.
 
IKO: REMEMBER THAT THIS TIME AROUND WE ARE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT AND HAVE A LOT OF POWER AT THE EXCHANGE.
 
ART: YOU HAVE TO BE GROSSING OVER 500 MILLION TO BE SUBJECT TO STRUCTURED PAYOUTS.

ART: BRING FAMILY MEMBERS IN AS TRUSTEES, BUT DON'T GIVE THEM TOTAL CONTROL OF YOUR MONEY
 
I REMEMBER YOSEF SAYING BEARER CHEQUES...ARE EXCHANGEABLE
 
YOU WANT THE ZIM NOTES WITH THE THREE ROCKS ON THEM, TO BE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT ONES.
 
QUESTION: REGARDING THE SKELETON TRUSTS BEING OFFERED BY WELLS FARGO, IS WF GOING TO BE THE TRUSTEE?
 
GERRY: I DO NOT THINK SO.
 
GERRY: THEY ARE OFFERRING SKELETON TRUSTS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE YOUR MONEY TO THE TRUST THAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT ONCE YOU HAVE TIME TO DO THAT AFTER YOU EXCHANGE.
 
QUESTION: WHEN THE 800 #'S COME OUT, CAN I HELP MY ELDERLY MOTHER AND MOTHER-IN-LAW EXCHANGE AT THE SAME TIME?
 
IKO: YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT~~BUT YOU CAN TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND LET THEM HELP YOU ACCOMPLISH THAT~~THEY ARE THEIR TO HELP
 
GERRY: YES, IT IS CALLED CONVEYING IT INTO THE TRUST.
 
GERRY: ANY TRUST ON THE STRUCTURED PAYOUTS GIVES YOU AN ENTITY TO HELP YOU PROTECT THE ASSETS WITHIN THE TRUST.
 
GERRY: YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT~~JUST NOT ALL AT ONCE
 
GERRY: REMEMBER, IF YOU DUMP ALL OF THIS MONEY INTO THE ECONOMY AT ONE TIME~~IT IS LIKE TURNING ON A FIRE HOSE AT FULL BLAST~~ MOST OF IT DOES NO GOOD AND JUST RUNS OFF
 
IKO: IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PARTNER WITH THE BANK, THE BANK IS NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THEIR BEST RATES ON THE ZIM
 
IN GENERAL, THE TRUST SYSTEM WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP TO HELP VERY WEALTHY PEOPLE SAVE ON TAXES~~IT IS CALL OFF LEDGER TRUST
 
IKO: YES, THAT IS THE TRUE MEANING OF THE TRUST, JOSEF
 
YOSEF: WHEN YOU ENGAGE IN A TRUST WITH ANY ENTITY, YOU GO IN TO A GENERAL TRUST WITH THAT INSTITUTION.
 
YOSEF: THEY HAVE THOUGHT THROUGH US COMING IN TO THIS WEALTH AND HOW TO BEST HELP YOU HELP YOURSELF
 
YOSEF: IT WILL BE A SOMEWHAT EASY PROCESS. YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESSED THAT THEY ARE READY TO HELP YOU ACCOMPLISH.
 
GERRY: CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION ON ZIM BEAR CHEQUES?
 
YOSEF: I DO NOT WANT TO GET INTO ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ZIM. JUST TAKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOU TO YOUR EXCHANGE.
 
YOSEF: THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROCESS FOR YEARS UPON YEARS AND ARE VERY PREPARED TO HELP US DURING OUR EXCHANGE.
 
 
IKO: WE HAVE A CONTACT INSIDE A CHASE EXCHANGE CENTER THAT HAS BEEN GIVING US GOOD INFO FOR MONTHS NOW. SHE HAS BEEN CALLED IN AND HER GENERAL LEDGERS ARE SHOWING EXCHANGES HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!!
 
SHE IS CLAIMING THAT THESE ARE ACTUALLY CURRENCY EXCHANGES~~NOT SKR'S~~WHOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHEN WILL IT GET DOWN TO US MINIONS?
 
GERRY: YOU JUST HEARD IKO SAY THAT PRIVATE EXCHANGES HAVE STARTED BACK UP AGAIN TODAY. IT WILL GET HERE TO US WHEN IT GETS HERE.
 
IF THE IMF IS PART OF THE CABAL SYSTEM, WHY CAN THEY STILL BE SO INVOLVED WITH THIS PROCESS.
 
YOSEF: WITHOUT BEING TOO POLITICAL, IT IS LIKE A DIVORCE WHERE THEY ARE HANDLING EVERYTHING IN THE BACKGROUND BEFORE THEY BRING IT FORWARD AND TELL THEIR "KIDS".
 
YOSEF: THEY DO NOT WANT TO CREATE A PANIC DURING AN ELECTION CYCLE.
 
Q FOR IKO: ARE YOU STILL WATCHING THE STOCK MARKET FOR INDICATORS?
 
IKO: I AM WATCHING TRANSPORTATION, SHIPPING, COMMODITIES. THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION FOR DIZZYBEAR ON NANCY'S CALL.
 
YOSEF: A LOT OF THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE HAVE BEEN MADE. EVEN MOVING TO A NEW COMPUTER SYSTEM WITH INCREDIBLE FIRE WALLS.
 
Q: IF IT IS OUR MONEY AND THE BANK IS RELEASING IT SLOWLY, THEN IT MUST BE THE BANKS FUNDS AND NOT OUR FUNDS.
 
GERRY: YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS~~MAYBE THROUGH A LOAN OF YOUR OWN MONEY, IF THE REQUEST IS TOO LARGE~~
 
YOSEF: IF YOU GET THE HIGHER RATES~~THERE WILL BE PLENTY IN YOUR KITTY THAT WILL NOT NECESSITATE LOANS.
 
Q: I HAVE 1.3 TRILLION IN HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS~~WORRYING THEY WILL HAVE TO TAKE SOME PROJECTS OFF THEIR LIST.
 
GERRY: DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO REMOVE PROJECTS~~THEY WANT YOU TO HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT
 
YOSEF: REITERATING THAT INITIAL RATES WILL BE VERY HIGH. THE BANKS WILL WORK WITH YOU. THEY WANT YOU TO HAVE THESE FUNDS. WE ARE NO LONGER THE SURFS. WE ARE MOVING TO THE FRONT OF THE BLEACHERS. DON'T GO TO A PLACE OF FEAR WHEN YOU LOOK AT FUNDING THESE PROJECTS.
 
ALL QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED
 
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CALLER QUESTIONS:

CHICAGO, ILL 773: I AM A NEWCOMER. THOSE OF US WHO HAVE COME IN LATE MAY NOT HAVE HAD TIME TO BUY SUFFICIENT CURRENCY. HOW MUCH IS A GOOD AMOUNT. I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK!!
 
GERRY: I DON'T KNOW YOUR SITUATION TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH YOU WILL NEED.
 
YOSEF ANSWERING CANADA GIRL'S QUESTION: OVER 90% OF WEALTH OF THE WORLD IS HANDLED IN TRUSTS. YOU ARE WORRIED BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. YOU SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT YOUR SUCCESSORS.
 
YOSEF: THEY WILL WANT TO MOVE THROUGH THE LINE QUICKLY, THAT IS WHY THEY ARE UTILIZING SKELETON TRUSTS.
 
YOSEF: IT IS NOT ALWAYS FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE TRUSTEES. SOMETIMES IT IS OTHER TRUSTED INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NAMED. YOU JUST NEED TO LOOK AT SUCCESSOR TRUSTEES ABOUT 3 LEVELS DEEP.
COMMENT FROM CAPTAINSAIL: lets call it an agency trust or custodial trust account until you move it to more specific instruments; however as I understand it I am in control of the trust during this interim
 
YOSEF: THE SKELETON TRUST QUESTION IS WHO DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL THIS SKELETON TRUST IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO YOU BEFORE YOU GET THINGS TRANSFERRED TO THE CORRECT TRUST FOR YOU.
 
CAPTAIN~~YES, THEY REFERRED TO IT AS AGENCY OR CUSTODIAL EARLIER IN THE CALL
 
THEY SAID IT EARLY ON
 
YOSEF: THEY HAVE TRIED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU ASK THEM.
 
YOSEF: THEY HAVE THOUGHT THIS THROUGH FOR EVERYONE COMING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
 
YOSEF: FOR YOUR TRUSTEES YOU NEED THE BATTER, THE ONE ON DECK, AND THE BATTER IN THE HOLE, AS FAR AS YOUR TRUSTEES GO.
 
IKO: I WANT TO REINFORCE THAT YOU WILL HAVE TIME. WE DON'T HAVE THE PRESSURE OF DOING THINGS UNDER DURESS. WE WILL HAVE 10% THAT YOU WILL HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER.
 
IKO: WELLS FARGO HAS SET IT UP FOR US SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A STEP BACK AND NOT MAKE US LEAP INTO SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.
 
IKO: YOU CAN COUNT ON THE FACT THAT THE DAY AFTER YOU WILL HAVE TIME. DON'T FEEL PRESSURED TO BE SOMEONE THAT YOU ARE NOT, YET. ACCEPT YOUR WORK AS A BEGINNER
 
CALLER: FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE BANK GETS THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO HOLD ANY OF MY MONEY.
 
YOSEF: IF YOU ENTER IN TO A CONTRACT WITH THE BANK, YOU ARE GIVING THEM THAT AUTHORITY.
 
YOSEF: IF YOU ENTER IN TO A CONTRACT WITH THE BANK, YOU ARE GIVING THEM THAT AUTHORITY.
 
CALLER: AM I LOSING CONTROL OF HOW THEY INVEST MY MONEY?
 
CALLER: IS THAT BANK IN A FIDUCIARY POSITION?
 
YOSEF: LOGICALLY, THE PEOPLE PAYING FOR THIS RV ARE TRUSTING THE BANKS;THEREFORE, DOES IT NOT FOLLOW THEN THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ALSO TRUST THE BANK TO GROW THESE FUNDS?
 
CALLER: I AM A FEW YEARS OVER 65. WILL I HAVE SHORTER PAYOUTS?
 
YOSEF: YES, THEY WILL BE BASING PAYOUTS UPON DIFFERENT AGES OF EXCHANGERS.
 
LITTLEDOG: THERE WILL BE BOTH A COMPLIANCE OFFICER AND TRUSTEE OVER THE SKELETON TRUST?
 
YOSEF: IF YOU ARE OPENING A SKELETON, THE INSTITUTION WILL BE THE TRUSTEE FOR THE SKELETON TRUST.
 
YOSEF: IF YOU ARE OPENING A SKELETON, THE INSTITUTION WILL BE THE TRUSTEE FOR THE SKELETON TRUST.
 
LITTLEDOG: WHEN I SET UP THE TRUST THAT I ULTIMATELY NEED, I CAN THEN TRANFER THE MONEY INTO MY NEW TRUST FROM THE SKELETON TRUST?
 
YOSEF: YOU CAN TRANSFER THE MONEY, BUT THE PRODUCTS THAT ARE INSIDE THE SKELETON TRUST MUST STAY IN PLACE.
 
YOSEF: IF YOU ARE TRYING TO APPLY NORMAL BUSINESS PRACTICES TO THIS EXCHANGE~~~~~DON'T~~YOU WILL COME OUT WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED.
 
YOSEF: NOONE REALLY KNOWS THE TRUTH UNTIL WE GET IN THERE.
 
LITTLEDOG: THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF REFUSING THE STRUCTURED SETTLEMENT?
 
YOSEF: YOU CAN ASK THEM ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT AT THE EXCHANGE~~THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT TO YOU~~BUT YOU CAN ASK~~IF THEY OFFER YOU 10 YEARS~~ASK THEM FOR 100
 
YOSEF: THIS IS A HELICOPTER DROP OF MONEY THE LIKES OF WHICH MOST OF US HAVE NEVER SEEN OR IMAGINED. IF THE BANKS ARE GIVING YOU THIS KIND OF MONEY, THEN THEY ARE ALSO PROBABLY THE PROPER ONES TO HELP YOU BOTH KEEP THESE FUNDS AND KEEP THIS MONEY LONG TERM.
 
YOSEF: I WILL PERSONALLY ASK FOR THE LONGEST SETTLEMENT THAT I CAN GET. I DON'T WANT TO WORRY ABOUT THIS MONEY DAY TO DAY. MOST OF US ARE LOOKING AT THIS MYOPICALLY INSTEAD OF MACROLY.
 
LITTLEDOG: SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY TRUST THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN LEGITIMATE OR TRUSTWORTHY IN THE PAST?
 
YOSEF: YES, THAT IS WHAT I AM TELLING YOU. WE HAVE SEEN AMAZING SHIFTING FROM DARK TO LIGHT. IT IS AN EXCHANGE OF CONSCIOUSNESS. THIS MONEY IS BEING GIFTED TO YOU. IT IS BEING SET UP FOR YOUR BENEVOLENT GOOD. DERIVATIVES ARE OVER. THEY HAVE BEEN SETTLED.
 
YOSEF: YES, THAT IS WHAT I AM TELLING YOU. WE HAVE SEEN AMAZING SHIFTING FROM DARK TO LIGHT. IT IS AN EXCHANGE OF CONSCIOUSNESS. THIS MONEY IS BEING GIFTED TO YOU. IT IS BEING SET UP FOR YOUR BENEVOLENT GOOD. DERIVATIVES ARE OVER. THEY HAVE BEEN SETTLED.

LITTLEDOG: SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY TRUST THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN LEGITIMATE OR TRUSTWORTHY IN THE PAST?
 
IKO: EVEN IF YOU FALL FLAT ON YOUR FACE, YOU ARE IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PLACE THAN YOU HAVE EVER BEEN.
 
CALLER: LEAN INTO THAT CONNECTION THAT LEAD US TO BUY CURRENCY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
 
IKO: THIS IS A GOD MOMENT. YOU ARE THERE IN THE UNIVERSAL PRESENCE.
 
CALLER: I AM AWARE THAT I NEED TO TAKE THIS CONVERSATION TO PRAYER TO CREATE THE KIND OF WORLD THAT WE WANT.
 
GERRY IS THANKING YOSEF FOR COMING ONTO THE CALL AND ANSWERING SO MANY QUESTIONS AND CONCERS.
 
YOSEF: YOU ARE ALL LOOKING FOR CAR KEYS THAT ARE ALREADY IN YOUR POCKETS!!
 
YOSEF: SURRENDER TO THIS GIFT OF BEING BLESSED.
 
YOSEF: IT IS BEYOND UNDERSTANDING AND THE SPIRITUAL SOUL. WE ARE PERFECT AND COMPLETE IN JESUS CHRIST. HE WAS THE FIRST TO DIE. I HAVE THIS BLESSING BECAUSE HE PAID THE WAY BY DYING FOR US.
 
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DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 25 APRIL

4-25-2016   Intel/Newshound Guru Backdoc    ARTICLE 8 COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED! THIS MEANS THEY HAVE A RATE NOW! IT WAS POSTED ON THE IMF WEB SITE FOR 3 HOURS!  IN ADDITION TO THESE MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE SEE THE USA CALLING FOR ANOTHER CREDIT RATING REVIEW FOR IRAQ WHICH SHOULD BE MUCH HIGHER. BY THE WAY, THE IMF NEW YEAR BEGINS MAY 1ST, DO YOU THINK THAT MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?   [post 2 of 2]

4-25-2016   Intel/Newshound Guru Backdoc
   IN THE LAST FEW DAYS WE SAW THE GOI (GOVERNMENT OF IRAQ) FIRED BY PRIME MINISTER ABADI. WE ALSO SAW PARLIAMENT SUSPENDED. THE RESULT OF THIS WAS TO BREAK IMMUNITY OF THE CORRUPT INDIVIDUALS. AS A RESULT THEY COULD BE ARRESTED AND REMOVED. A NEW TECHNOCRATIC GOVT. HAND PICKED BY THE USA WILL REPLACE THE GOI. THE BAD APPLES FROM THE PARLIAMENT WERE REMOVED SO THINGS WILL MOVE FORWARD NOW! OF COURSE I COULD BE WRONG BUT I EXPECT SERIOUS ACTION PRIOR TO MONTH END!   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

4-25-2016   Newshound Guru Millionday   Article:  "Office of House Speaker Salim al-Jubouri, said the Presidium of the parliament called on the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, to attend the hearing next Tuesday to view the ministerial cabin."  TUESDAY ABADI HAS BEEN CALLED TO BRING LIST OF CABINET...THE MEETING WILL HOST ABADI AND WILL BE ABOUT REFORMS AND ALSO THE LIST OF MINISTERS -- REPORTS ARE STATING THAT THE KURDS WILL HAVE EQUAL REPRESENTATION WITHIN THE CABINET AND BE FAIRLY INCLUDED AS WELL.  [Do you think they will go ahead and vote on it, or start throwing shoes again?]  IMO THIS WILL BE MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE BUT WE WILL SEE ON TUESDAY.

4-25-2016   Newshound Guru rcookie
    [just trying to understand why the stopping of auctions is so important, if it is?]  CBI Control...One short sentence answers...:   the Central Bank of Iraq regulates the flow of money through controlled auctions...Needless to say, this is not normal. In most other countries, money can be easily exchanged into a number of currencies at the will and whim of any citizen. The exchange rates are allowed to move freely according to the forces of supply and demand, interest rates, etc.

WINGIT - Sunday Call Notes - Special Edition - 4.24.16, 25 APRIL

(This content is for general information purposes only.  All information given is the opinion of the provider. Each situation may be different…and the procedures listed today may be subject to change.)

WINGIT - Sunday Call Notes - Special Edition - 4.24.16

​​EXCHANGE PROCESS REVIEW

Intro Notes

Private exchanges are on-going at this hour. 

Private group exchange rates will be very high through the end of April then start diminishing at the beginning of May.

Appointment processing times are now ranging over 1 hour to upwards of 2 hours depending on volume and need.


There's wonderful protection both at the redemption centers and outward in a 7 mile permitter. 

You and your currency are very safe, gold backed and blessed beyond understanding.
Exchange Process

1. ​800#s will be made available on the internet and to key providers.

2. Call and set up your appointment, provide your name, currencies and zip code (ZIM holders will go first).

3. At your appointment, you'll need to produce at least two forms of IDENTIFICATION (one pictured, one non pictured). 

Driver's License

Passport

Work / School ID

Social Security Card

Birth Certificate

Credit Cards

Health Insurance Card

Existing Banking Information

Voter Registration

Utility Bill

4. Be prepared next to discuss your humanitarian or job creation plans moving forward. If you have pre-existing materials bring them, if not be prepared to discuss your philanthropic agenda with this money moving forward. Remember, the bank wants to know you're going to do right by the money and help others with your abundant blessing.

5. Present all your currencies for De La Rue machine counting and be prepared to start negotiating for a very high rate. Rates are higher than you're probably even thinking, so you won't have to force your way up. Remember, they want you to both have this money and spread it around to friends, family and community to ask for exactly what you need and want to achieve any long-term philanthropic and generation wealth goal.

6. Bring with you any of the following items if you want to have a follow up advanced banking discussion:

Wiring information to send money into other accounts
.
Cashier's check list to cut checks into other accounts, it's ok to include checks for billet that are past due and must have paid off ASAP to save a home or pay for a dire medical procedure.

Existing account information to transfer funds into other accounts.

List of new accounts you want opened, including trust accounts for your immediate family.
Number of credit cards you want opened for yourself and family.

7. The following item regarding structured payouts will need to be discussed at some point during your appointment, and you will need to fully grasp before going into your appointment that they for your benefit for the following reasons:

They will help you adjust to your new sudden and abundant wealth.

They will provide immediate short and long-term principal protection.

They will generate quarterly interest off principal in exchange for a mutually agreed upon term​.

They allow your principal to sit safely in a non-taxable holding trust (skeleton trust) until you can coordinate a proven financial team to handle your new sudden wealth blessing.

They also allow you to have immediate access to a portion of your new principal without exposing all of your principal to financial predators​.

Final Thoughts

If you're trying to logically figure this out, stop. Th​e RV is complex and well beyond ​everyday ​logic. Instead, just enjoy the buffet of riches the Lord hath 
​prepared.

Think spiritual transition versus banking transaction and you'll be able to enjoy your exchange appointment much more better.

If you get lost or feel light headed, just ask your angels to bring you back into your body so you can complete your exchange successfully.

Prayer works, so by all means pray for divine guidance and knowledge whenever things start to feel the money is "beyond your grasp."

God bring us to every challenge in our life with a divine ability to go through it gracefully. 
Trust that you are getting to experience this blessing for a divine reason, and let this fact be enough in the moment. 

Consider this financial miracle Heavenly back pay for all the good Earthly acts, kind words and silent prayers done to service of others. 

Look, God knows what's deepest in our hearts and he's obviously rewarding us for being righteous and loyal all these years of suffering. 

Amen is a just variation of the greek word "Amein" which translated means "because it is so". So in closing lets say a big Amein… because the RV is so and our money problems are now vanquished in Christ's name.

Hallelujah! Hallelujah!! Hallelujah!!!