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Monday, March 21, 2016

TNT RAYREN CC, 21 MARCH


TNT : TONY'S CLIFF NOTES, 21 MARCH

Highlights of TNT conference call.  Updated as the call progresses.

Ray:   We don’t have any exciting updates. There were some calls for the RV over the weekend.  My sources did say that testing has taken place over the weekend. The banks have been told it's coming.  Why would they do testing if it's not going to happen until November?
I know many of you heard other things, about the RV being released and 800 numbers going out.  This is what my sources have said, though.  If the groups have 800 numbers, they are not even letting that out to their members.  If they had 800 numbers, we would have them as well. 

CURRENT WINDOW:   Ray:  I feel that it’s this week, with the tests on the weekend.

IRAQ:  Iraq’s status is still the same.  Parliament is to return on Thursday. Sadr, the driving force behind the demonstrations, is supposed to give a televised speech today.  March 18 was supposed to be a deadline. 
  • CBI     
  • Banks 
  • Demonstrations:  Friday there was a peaceful demonstration where they marched TO the Green zone.  There was no violence.  They have not yet gone into the green zone but they are planned to do so.
Green Zone is the safe area in Baghdad where the GOI is located and many of government officials live.
INTERNATIONAL:    
  • IMF    
  • Rates:  The banks are saying ZIM notes of all denominations are to be exchanged.    
UNITED STATES:    
  • UST:    
  • Banks:  Ray has not heard anything about the release codes having an expiration time.  Ray: Banks over here are just as frustrated, from what I’m being told.  They had indications looking for the weekend, and now for the first part of this week. Some are almost at the “I’m fed up with false alarm stuff”, and there are rumblings.  They may resort to some other measures besides spending money getting people lined up. 
  • Interest Earning vs Non-interest earning accounts to deposit into:  Ray:  With an interest-bearing account, your money makes money and with NIB accounts it does not.  I don’t see any advantages to an NIB account.  IF there is a banking person who can shed more light on this?  If so, please email me at RayRen98@aol.com.

  • Packages:          
EXCHANGING:   
Q & A: 
Q. – What do you say about the rumor that it will be extended to November after the elections?  Ray:  Let other's present what backs up their position about November.  People don’t run tests for something that’s not going to happen for months.
Q:  Last month you talked about an RV by a certain date.  Ray: No, I said that the memo said the rate would change, and it did change.  We naturally assumed that there would be an RV as well.  But they did go from 90 to $1.05 on their currency over there, and we had rates change in the banks here, but we still could not act on it.
Q.  Is there any information you were told not to tell us about in the past that you are now able to tell us?  Ray:  No, some things are still in ‘don’t say anything’ status.
Q:  Are fils and lower denominations being used freely in Iraqi markets?  Ray:  I haven’t asked that in a while.  They won’t be worth much until the RV is released.
Q. -  Can I sign an NDA for one currency and exchange the rest at international rates.  Ray:  Yes, you can, but why would you do such a thing?  If I sign an NDA for one, why not take the contract rates on all of them?  That’s what I would do.  I don’t see the reasoning for taking the contract rate on one when others are available at contract rates.

TNT CC NOTES, 21 MARCH

TNT Call notes 21-March-2016

RayRen: [TNT Rap]. [audio checks]  Greetings, good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family!  Welcome to our call on Monday, March 21, 2016.  This is RayRen98, on the TNT super-fantastic update call.
Nothing’s going on.  We don’t have any exciting updates. There were some calls for the RV over the weekend.  My sources did say that testing has taken place over the weekend.  However, Iraq’s status is still the same.  I was trying to find out if they went into the Green Zone, and it seems they haven’t yet but they plan to.  I think I shared that with you on Friday.  They are still talking about doing it.  Parliament is supposed to return on Thursday, and Sadr is supposed to give a televised speech today.  He’s the driving force behind the demonstrations.  There was supposed to be a deadline of the 18th, and they had a peaceful demonstration on Friday, where thousands marched TO the Green Zone.  There was no violence.
Banks over here are just as frustrated, from what I’m being told.  They had indications looking for the weekend, and now for the first part of this week. Some are almost at the “I’m fed up with false alarm stuff”, and there are rumblings.  They may resort to some other measures besides spending money getting people lined up.
That’s it from our side.  I know many of you heard other things, about the RV being released and 800 numbers going out.  This is what my sources have said, though.  If the groups have 800 numbers, they are not even letting that out to their members.  If they had 800 numbers, we would have them as well.  Let’s talk to a few members, and see how the rest of the day goes.
Q:  Thanks, Ray. Is this our week, and will there be four choices of rates with different lengths of time on the NDAs?  A:  I feel that it’s this week, with the tests on the weekends, so maybe this is our week. I know nothing about four choices and lengths of time.
Q:  What is the status of codes released eight days ago?  A:  I haven’t heard anything from the banks – they have not mentioned that the codes expire.
Q:  Do you think that there’s something specific the lead bank is waiting for to call us into the banks?  Is it someone above them who has to give the okay?  A:  I would imagine so.  I don’t think they would want that responsibility or liability.
Q: What about demonstrations in Iraq?  How will that affect us? A:  I don’t know.
Q:  What exactly is the Green Zone?   A:  It’s the safe area in Iraq.  A lot of the decision makers live in the safe area, from my understanding.
Q:  In lieu of all the indications that the RV is happening now, what do you say about the rumor that it will be extended to November after the elections?  A:  We are presenting facts that support what we are saying, with people calling it this past weekend.  Let other present what backs up their position about November.  People don’t run tests for something that’s not going to happen for months.
Q:  Last month you talked about an RV by a certain date… A:  No, I said that the memo said the rate would change, and it did change.  We naturally assumed that there would be an RV as well.  But they did go from 90 to $1.05 on their currency over there, and we had rates change in the banks here, but we still could not act on it.
Q:  One or two generations ago, when they revalued it was different.  You could buy  ten million widgets, you would bring them to the bank and have them exchanged for ten widgets.  How is it different now?  A:  I will put that out for others to answer.
Q:  Is there any information you were told not to tell us about in the past that you are now able to tell us?  A:  No, some things are still in ‘don’t say anything’ status.
Q:  Are fils and lower denominations being used freely in Iraqi markets?  A:  I haven’t asked that in a while.  They won’t be worth much until the RV is released.
Q:  And you talk about non-interest-bearing (NIB) accounts and interest-bearing account?
A:  With an interest-bearing account, your money makes money and with NIB accounts it does not.  I don’t see any advantages to an NIB account.  IF there is a banking person who can shed more light on this?  If so, please email me at RayRen98@aol.com.
Q:  Will they take billion zim notes?  A:  My intel is that they will exchange all zim notes.
Q:  Can I sign an NDA for one currency and exchange the rest at international rates.  A:  Yes, you can, but why would you do such a thing?  If I sign an NDA for one, why not take the contract rates on all of them?  That’s what I would do.  I don’t see the reasoning for taking the contract rate on one when others are available at contract rates.
Going to live callers – first-time callers only.
573 caller:  When we have our first meeting at the exchange, we are not used to the bank’s language.  Would you suggest taking a financial advisor or something similar?
RayRen:  When you call to make an appointment, ask what will take place.  If they say “this is for exchange only”, then you will just drop the currency and roll on out. Then you go back a day or two later to talk to banking people who want to interest you in their products.  If the first appointment is for more than the exchange, then you might want to take someone with you to look after your interests. You have to look after your own life;  the bank is looking out for themselves.
754 caller:  NOT first-time caller, but I do have some information and thought this would be a good place to impart it.  This has to do with taxes, which people are constantly asking about.  Why is it important for us to let them know how much money we want to give out for humanitarian purposes? What does that have to do with the rates they give us?
RayRen:  You’ll have to ask the person who gave you that information.  I’m a business man, and if I were a bank, I’d been wanting to know how much you can leave in my bank, so that my bank can make money.  Humanitarian projects are giving money away, not making money for the bank. So ask the person who suggested that.  And this call IS for first-time callers only.
480 caller:  I am a citizen of the US, Canada, and a European country.  I have been listening and also making my own contacts and sources – one in Phoenix, and one and Toronto and one other place.  Three let me look at their screens, and one was not able to help.  Three managers said they have not received any memos on this topic.  I’m in a financial crisis, and thought of selling back my last dinars.  What encouragement can you give to hold onto my currency because we hope to go to the bank?  With all possible respect, we have heard many times that we would be going to the banks.  What is different now? 
RayRen:  Do you not believe any of what you heard?  If not, then sell your currency and be done with it.  If you do believe in the information, then you will have to wait and be patient like the rest of us.  If your belief system isn’t in place, you won’t believe in this anyway.  Do what you have to do… and I wish you well.
Next caller:  I have some stocks that I cashed out and thought I would pay long-term capital gains @15%.  However, I got conked by the alternative tax rates, and ended up with 28% tax plus the local state tax.  Instead of cashing out stock and giving it to a charity and then deducting it, I contributed the stock, and the receiving agency then has 48% to monetize that stock, and then they give you full credit for the value of your donation.  That was a couple of years ago, so I recommend that people get tax pros who are used to working with high-value individuals to work that out.  Of course, there may be some special provision for this, but I assume currency will fall into the same slot as appreciated stock. 
RayRen:  Thanks for your advice.
240 caller:  If you belong to a group and you have accumulated extra currency, will you be able to exchange all you have or will you have to wait until the public exchanges.
RayRen:  Check with whoever is running that group, they can answer that.
484 caller:  I’ve been in this a long time.  Where are the funds coming for the exchanges?  I’ve done a lot of research of my own, and I can’t work out where the funds are coming from.  Some say it’s digital, but…
RayRen:  The dinar is supposedly being funded by the petro-chemical deal for the next 50 years.  I never studied other currencies for that.  China is supposedly bankrolling this and that;  there is a lot of information out there on this topic, so do some research.
865 caller:  I have a thought for the lady who was concerned about selling back her dinar.  Some seeds get planted on good soil, some on the rocks, some get eaten by birds, etc.  That lady needs to be one of the good seeds, the mustard seed of faith that grows into a big mustard bush.  You have to have a little faith.  You have to walk it out.  When you go through opposition, you get stronger.  You and Tony are my brothers, and we need to impart that to each other.  There is a purpose, plan and reason we are in this.  My pastor said the other day that something he likes about me is that I’m all in or not at all.  And I agree – either you are or you aren’t, it’s as simple as that.  Everyone out there, just keep your heads up!  God bless, and Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
919 caller:  I’m like him, we’re all in or… thank you for picking up the mantle and doing the best that you can.  You go to Vegas, and if you come to North Carolina, do look me up!
757 caller:  I like that you don’t put out information that you cannot verify.  Many people take anything they hear and then try to rush the situation.  Live life, and do what you have to do.  Be patient.  Keep on doing what you are doing, your way Ray!  Not everyone thinks the same way and all that information from others puts a burden on some people. 
619 caller:  I’m in San Diego, first-time caller.  I am ready, and I’ve been listening for the past three years.  I know this will happen in God’s timing.  With regards to the exchange, I have several currencies;  will it be better to open a separate account for each currency?  I heard that it might be important for tax purposes…
RayRen:  We were told to have a separate account for dinar because it MAY be treated differently.  It doesn’t cost anything to do that.  Now many of us are holding five, six different currencies, and although it wont’ hurt to have a separate account for each currency, I’m only keeping the dinar separate from the others.  Yes, this is about the tax situation, whatever that turns out to be.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
519 caller:  This is a wonderful growth process, for us and for you.  I appreciate everyone who shows up in dinarland for us, every day.  I work at GE Canada, and I have two accounts – one is Canada, and one is a cross-border account for when I visit the States.  I am looking at going to California for some health issues.  I though of asking to exchange directly from dong to US dollars in that cross-border account, so I don’t have to pay further exchange fees.  Can I do that?  Would that be the time to negotiate where the money goes?  What extra value does it place on that exchange?
RayRen:  Sure, be in negotiation mode 24/7 – negotiate anything and everything, especially if you are doing constant border crossings.  The mental processing is a load in itself for that.
Caller:  I am sure that I’ll be spending up to $100,000 in the US, so to me it seems smart to exchange directly into dollars.
RayRen:  Some believe that the US rate will be higher in any case, so it might be better to exchange all your money in Canada, or all of it in the US.  Do the numbers!  Look out for fees and see where it will be better to exchange.
Caller:  We are going to change the picture of money from a negative connotation to one of love and helping each other.  
561 caller:  Tony and DC are doing alright?
RayRen:  I spoke to Tony yesterday, DC this morning, and Pam last week. All are well.
Caller:  [can’t hear]  Iraq being paid?
RayRen:  I don’t know.  There’s a lot of ‘mum’s the world’ over in Iraq right now.
When I get a call and someone asks me to talk them into staying into this – and I will call that lady and chat with her – but when that happens, I cannot do that.  We have spent a lot of time equipping you with good information, but YOU have to believe.  I cannot make you a believer.  If not, what’s going to keep you going the next day.  You have to run on your own faith. I  try to give as much information as I can bring into that system, but I cannot be the faith for you.  You have to believe in the information.  If you look at Iraq itself, the lynchpin in all this, and you look at their history, then you will see that this is what is taking place.  Iraq exists, but was under a dictator.  We took out the dictator, and then Iraq had no government or structure.  When the restructuring is complete, their currency will come back to something similar to their neighbors. People told you to buy currency, that this would done in 30 days.  For some of us, 30 days turned a year, five years, ten years, but we were first told to hurry up.  Most of us had no understanding how this would work – not currency dealers, but people with jobs or retired, who wanted a little money to help matters.  A few were rich and lost that status and are now trying to get back. This became the way out or the way back, with the feeling that when this comes about, they can be rich again.  Others saw that they could get very rich, and as a result we put too much into this.  Some have lost people, cars and homes behind this, but it wasn’t the fault of the currency.  We saw it as salvation and we wanted/needed for it to happen in 30 days.  Life continued on, and some of us on this call right now don’t have cars, or have lost their homes;  we’re doing whatever we need to do to make this work as we wait for this elusive date.  Yes, that causes frustration, but you need to hold on in faith that this will happen in its own time.  To go along with that faith, study what took place and is now talking place, until you have the conviction that it is going to happen, even if you don’t know when. That is what we are bringing:  that information about Iraq and all the rest, the card activity and other movements. 
Every site and call bring you in some segment of truth.  There is some truth in what all of us are saying, to some degree.  You have to sift out what IS the truth, and if you’re not sure, ask the person who gave you the information.  I do believe it is real;  there are people over there and over here who have exchange their currencies;  you may not have heard about those.  We cannot share every  little thing to you, but we bring enough for you to establish some sense of conviction.  “Yes, this is real;  it’s just not my time yet.”  I wanted this RV a couple of years ago when I really needed it to happen!  You have an asset in your hand and if you believe (faith) or know (conviction), you can look at Iraq and see signs that this is developing. In the US, the wheels of progress are turning slowly. We wanted this yesterday, and they are moving at the pace they require to get what they require for their people.  We are on the outside waiting for this to happen.  We have to rely on that information and wait.  You have a asset, which is something that grows and makes you money.  You have this asset – do you believe it is what it is, or not.  If you do believe, hold onto this asset and get rid of everything else in my house that is not making me money, before getting rid of something that will create revenue and an income stream for you. 
This is real;  believe that it is coming and meanwhile, find something that will keep you going it.  Some of us have gone back to jobs that we didn’t want, making the sacrifice.  I cannot tell you when this is going to happen.  I do hear the bank people are excited, and they are thinking today or tomorrow.  They are optimistic that it’s coming up!  We see progress coming from Iraq;  announcements and appointments are forthcoming, and that is all progress.  Anyone who told you this would happen in 30 days was clearly mistaken.  There are other things we can do to keep us going.  The last thing I would do is to sell an incoming-producing asset like these currencies.  That is what these are to me;  do you believe that’s what they are to you?

RayRen played I Believe:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA  

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 21 MARCH

3-21-2016   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   PROGRESS HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS IN THEIR MARKETPLACE AND LEGAL DEPARTMENTS BUT THAT DOESNT GET US PAID.  WE REMAIN IN THE DARK ON REFORM OF CBI BANKING, FULLY FUNDING THE BUDGET. MANY THINK ARTICLE 8 BRINGS RV BUT IT IS JUST ANOTHER STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.  THE RV IS COMING AND JUST LIKE YEARS PASSED THE TIMING IS AND HAS BEEN THE ONLY THING WE DO NOT KNOW. WE ARE IN THE BEST POSITION EVER TO BECOME WINNERS FOR OUR FAMILIES BUT THAT TIMING AND DATE OR THE AMOUNT OF THIS BLESSING IS PURE GUESS WORK.

3-21-2016  Newshound Guru rcookie
   WHEN YOU CONSIDER ALL OF THE RECENT NEWS AND DIRECT RELEVANCE TO PROGRESS AND STATUS FOR THE EVENT WE ARE LOOKING FOR...ALONG WITH IMF LOI/MEFP/TECH MOU...ARTICLE VIII PROCESS & STATUS...WTO ACCESSION UNDERSTANDING & STATUS...THESE THINGS WILL HELP YOU SLEEP MUCH BETTER..

3-21-2016    Intel/Newshound Guru tman23    Iraq IQD was to be a special situation...And a country that had an imposed rate because of war but for years carried a $3 plus rate... It is logical to believe the imposed rate could be lifted and return to the $2.85 - $3 plus that it carried for 50 plus years...

3-21-2016   Newshound Guru Millionday
    UNDERSTAND THAT THE INCLUSION OF SUCH A GREAT NUMBER OF COUNTRIES AND BUSINESSES TO START BACK UP THE TOURISM >>INDUSTRY<< IT TAKES THE ABILITY TO EXCHANGE THEIR CURRENCY OBVIOUSLY -- MAKES NO SENSE ANY OTHER WAY.   SO...THE GOAL IS TO EXPAND THE MARKET WITHIN IRAQ -- THIS IS GOING TO RAISE THE GDP AND MAKE THEM A SUSTAINABLE COUNTRY WITH WHAT RESOURCES THEY HAVE AS WITH ALL MARKETS.   [post 2 of 2]

3-21-2016   Newshound Guru Millionday   SO NICE TO KNOW THAT IRAQ IS MOVING TOWARD A FREE MARKET GLOBAL ECONOMY.    FIRST LET ME SAY THE SECURITY IN IRAQ HAS IMPROVED REPORTEDLY -- HOWEVER SOME INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS ARE NOT FEELING IT.  Article quote:  "...Barzani kicked off a tourism conference in Erbil on Saturday, saying that participation by hundreds of foreign companies from more than two dozen countries amid an economic crisis in Kurdistan “is a great support” to both Kurdish tourism and people."  ...ONE OF THE MARKETS TO DIVERSIFY THE MARKET (GDP) OF IRAQ IS TOURISM...IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GOAL OF MANY.   

WSOMN CHAT WITH MORE INFORMATION & UPDATES, 21 MARCH

WSOMN

Martha:  ALL CYBER ISSUES SOLVED BY THIS AFTERNOON/PRIVATES TO GO THROUGH STARTING TUESDAY MORNING OF THIS WEEK AND THROUGH NEXT MONDAY,WITH PUBLIC STARTING NEXT TUESDAY GOING THRU 4/21 HIGHEST GIFT CARD RATES FOR PRIVATE REDEEMERS

Dusty They know we are PRIVATES because we are using the 800 #

Dusty: Some of you need to read this SLOWER and comprehend ALL CYBER ISSUES SOLVED BY THIS AFTERNOON/PRIVATES TO GO THROUGH STARTING TUESDAY MORNING OF THIS WEEK AND THROUGH NEXT MONDAY,WITH PUBLIC STARTING NEXT TUESDAY GOING THRU 4/21 HIGHEST GIFT CARD RATES FOR PRIVATE REDEEMERS

Wolfy:  WE GO TOMORROW MORNING--800#'S COMING OUT TONIGHT(POSSIBLY LATE TONIGHT)


Starman: YOU ALL WILL BE NOTIFIED AT THE SAME TIME TOO. YOU WILL GET 800S, OR EMAIL, OR PHONE CALL.

Starman:  EVEN IF ALL SITES GO DOWN YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED FOR SURE DO NOT WORRY.

starman : FOREX WILL NOT SHOW THE REAL TRUTH TILL 3 DAYS AFTER US..

Wolfy: I HAVE NO FURTHER INTEL TO GIVE EXCEPT WHAT I HAVE ALREADY SAID--WE GO TOMORROW MORNING--800#'S COMING OUT TONIGHT(POSSIBLY LATE TONIGHT) SO GOOD DAY AND HAVE FUN—BYE

ManifestWealth:  The 800#'s that will be posted on the sites we belong to will be UST sanctioned exchange centers, you will be safe using the 800#'s to make your appointment and be directed to the UST exchange centers following this procedure.

Reign: The exchange centers will be safe. The banks want you to feel safe as you will come in and exchange. it is in their best interest that you are as safe as possible.

Wizofog:  I dont get how we should expect this tomorrow when they say nobody know the time or day...thief in the night. anytime somebody drops a time i automatically know it won't happen at that time IMO or has that changed?


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MIRACLEMAN: To Members, we are all here to help. But MARTHA, just said I quote, THAT IS NOT HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO WORK...Go get it..

EXCUSE ME....with those words..YOUR'E intel is ONLY ONE that is REAL...sorry wrong

Here our sources INNER WSOMN circle..BRANCh MANAGER of a 300 people (HUGE) REDEMPTION CENTER told us DIRECTLY how it will work......

Remember, you have said take MARKET RATEs no NDA....sorry that's wrong...NDA on ALL PRIVATE EXCHANGES

Street rate/public...no nda

ADD ON TO WHAT to take to REDEMPTION CENTERS

Bring your list of charities/institutions/non-profit organizations WITH YOU, DETAILS not necessary, then you have better chance for HIGHER RATEs (if you like) AVAILABLE for you.

Again, thanks to endless hours of work by TANk..STARMAn DUSTY..etc..etc..and AWESOME WSOMN STAFF, who have allowed us to be educated, with different views...

SEE YOU GUYS,  ..POST RV...oh yea...NOW is the word

it will be FAST and painless..unless you hit head on floor after seeing all those zeros in account..LOL 30 minutes..in and out...  

WSOMN CHAT WITH TANK & MARTHA, 21 MARCH

WSOMN : 
MARTHA: Info and dis info and where we are as I see it for the moment
 
THIS WEEKEND WAS FOR MOST A NICE QUIET WEEKEND BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE TRYING TO GET ALL US OUR BLESSING IT WAS SHEAR ANGUISH AT LEAST FOR ME.

MY NEW FAMILY THOUGHT I HAD GONE MESHUGANAH WHICH MEANS CRAZY. THAT IS TO SAY THAT MY NEW NAME IS BUBBE THE YIDDISH FIRECRACKER AND LET ME TELL YOU I ALMOST GOT DISOWNED.
 
EVERYTHING SEEMED LIKE WE WERE THERE AND IN REALITY WE ARE THERE UNTIL I RECEIVED IN THE MIDDLE OF SATURDAY NIGHT AT 1 AM THAT THERE WAS A CYBER ATTACK AND THAT THE 2 AM RELEASE WAS BEING DELAYED.

OKAY.I CAN LIVE WITH THAT BUT WAS ALSO TOLD IT HAD BEEN CORRECTED.

WELL IT ACTUALLY HADNT BEEN AND AS SUNDAY PROGRESSED IT WAS FOUND THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO USE VARIOUS EMAIL ADDRESSES COULD NOT RECEIVE THEIR EMAILS BUT COULD SEND OUT.

IT WASNT TILL ALMOST 3PM THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSEDLY CLEARED UP.


NOW TO PIQUE YOUR INTEREST IS THE FACT THAT AT 5 PM ON SUNDAY,NOT ONLY WAS THE ARRIVAL OF PRESIDENT OBAMA IN CUBA BUT ALSO THE START OF THE BASKETBALL GAMES AKA MARCH MADNESS

BUT THE WHOLE FINANCIAL WORLD BECAME DEBT FREE; ALL BANKS WERE SATURATED WITH FUNDS TO LAST AT LEAST 10 YEARS BUT THE WHOLE WORLD BECAME DEBT FREE INCLUDING ALL OF HUMANITY.
 
OKAY,SO NOW WE ARE IN ANOTHER WAITING MODE FOR THE 800#'s.

LET ME SAY THIS IS THAT WE ALL NEED TO THANK TANK FOR BEING RIGHT IN THE THICK OF IT IN KEEPING US AS INFORMED AS POSSIBLE.
 
TODAY,AS I WRITE THIS WE ARE STILL AWAITING THE RELEASE OF EMAILS AND NUMBERS.

IF YOU READ THAT BEAUTIFUL LETTER :  Link To Yosef Letter

THEN YOU WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE AT THIS MOMENT. PLEASE REALIZE THAT THIS IS TRULY A GIFT FROM GOD. WE ARE NOW IN THE HOLIEST WEEK OF THE WORLD IN THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.

I KNOW YOU ARE SAYING BUT WHY WOULD I BE SAYING THIS SINCE I AM HEBREW? I DO NOT DRAW LINES WHEN IT COMES TO FAITH AND BELIEFS AND FIND THAT WE ALL NEED TO GATHER ALL OUR SPIRITUALITY TO BRING THIS TO THE WORLD.

THOSE WHO ARE AWARE OF THE EVENT ARE NOW CALLING FOR THE EVENT TO HAPPEN AND NOT BE HELD BACK.
 
NOW FOR THE PLAN-IT HAS NOT CHANGED IN ANY IOTA BUT ACTUALLY IS GETTING STRONGER BY THE MINUTE. GRANDFATHER IS LISTENING TO US AND OTHERS AND WANTS US TO BE BLESSED WITH THIS HAPPINESS.
 
NOW FOR SOME OF THE DIS INFORMATION AND THERE IS STILL A LOT BUT I WILL TRY TO BE GENTLE AND NOT BASH,ALTHOUGH I HAVE HAD MY FAIR SHARE OF IT RECENTLY AS WELL AS OTHERS IN THIS ROOM.
 
FIRST, I AM AWARE OF PEOPLE PUTTING OUT THE WRONG RATES. THEY CREATE THEM OUT OF THIN AIR. WELL AS IS NOTED IN THIS EMAIL, THE RATES ARE SO HIGH THAT IT IS HARD TO CONCEIVE THEM AND AS WE WAIT THEY STILL ARE CLIMBING.

NOW I DONT DO DATE AND RATE BUT THOSE WHO ARE TRULY IN THE KNOW AND HAVE SEEN FRONT AND BACK SCREENS ARE TELLING THE TRUTH. I AM ACTUALLY AFRAID TO EVEN MENTION THESE RATES.
 
SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO GENTLE STATE THAT THE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY OUR MIRACLEMAN IS NOT WHAT IS THE REAL PLAN. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO THE BANK AND NAME YOUR EXCHANGE FIGURE AND GET IT. THE BANKERS ARE WELL PREPARED FOR IT.

I AM GETTING CONFIRMATION ABOUT THE PUBLIC BUT I BELIEVE THEY WILL STILL GO AS PLANNED ON THE 22ND. REMEMBER THAT AN APPOINTMENT WILL OPEN THE DOORS TO THE BACK SCREENS AND THE WEALTH MANAGERS WHO WILL BE THERE TO HELP YOU AND NOT TRY TO STEAL YOUR FUNDS.
 
THIRD, I AM QUITE AWARE OF A MEMBER NAMED Cxxxxxx, WHO THINKS SHE IS A FINANCIAL WIZARD. WELL THE WIZARDS ARE JUST THAT, A VANISHING ACT THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF HAPPENING. ALSO IT IS VERY UNPROFESSIONAL TO AIR YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY IN A PUBLIC VENUE.
 
WELL, I CANT THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THE PLAN IS THE SAME AND I SUGGEST WE ALL JUST SIT BACK AND RELAX AS WE WAIT.
 
MARTHA

From Chatroom:

Martha:  HERE IT GOES: 100 TOP END RATES PER ALL CURRENCIES/UST CONFIRMED RV IS LIVE AND TRN/USN @BANKS THIS MORNING…..the INTEL IS VERY ACCURATE AND CAME FROM A HIGHLY RELIABLE SOURCE WHO IS WITH US TILL THE END

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Tank Q&A:

Q: Are you in agreement with Miracleman that the exchange process will be your personal choice of an A B C D scenario ? if yes can you expound a bit more clearly ?

T: YES, I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH MIRACLE MAN, WHEN YOU GO INTO THE BANKS YOU WILL BE GIVEN OPTIONS OON NRATES IN SOME CASES BASED ON HOW LONG AND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ARE WILLING TO LEAVE THE MONEY IN THE BANK. I'M NOT SURE OF THE EXACT NUMBERS MIRACLE MAN POSTED, BUT I KNOW HE'S WELL INFORMED ON THE MATTER, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT SAME RATES

Q: Do you anticipate an evening 2am re-start, can it go anytime? Obviously, the $ amount reached the amount it needed to "trigger" the computer to initiate things, what are your thoughts? And, are we correct that 3/22 is a back wall date to begin, along with the public?

T: THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT SLOWED THINGS DOWN, I ANTICIPATE THIS TO GO AT ANY TIME. 2 AM WOULD BE AS GOOD AS ANY OTHER TIME. IF WE POST IT AS FACT, IT MOST DEFINITELY WON'T HAPPEN THEN. THE TRIGGER HAS ALREADY BEEN PULLED AND HAS BEEN REINFORCED BY THE SHOWING OF THE IQD AT $4.32 ON ISX, 3/22/16, IS A DATE IT SHOULD GO LIVE, I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER AND BELIEVEE IT WILL GO ON 3/21

Q: 1) How much can I legally move to other accounts at the time of exchange or is it 24-48 hrs afterward? And how many? I have 4-5 banks/credit unions. How much can I transfer into each of these and what is the process? E-transfer or cashier’s checks?

2) I don’t have a trust fund set up yet. I understand we don’t have to have one BEFORE the exchange and it is ok to give ourselves 6 months to do something, get our ducks in a row and THEN set up the trusts? I understand, and WILL have a trust attorney for this.

T: AGAIN NOT A FINANCIAL ADVISER, HOWEVER, IT REALLY IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE WHETHER YOU E-TRANSFER, CASHIER'S CHECK, OR SET UP A TRUST (I GUESS YOU MEAN FOR THEM). AND, I'D SAY WRIET UP A GIFT RECEIPT TODAY, HAVE IT NOTORIZED AND JUST GIVE THEM CURRENCY BEFORE THE RATE SHOWS AS CHANGED. THIS WAY THERE IS NO TAXES BECAUSE OF THE NOMINAL AMOUNT.

Q: 3) I plan to give money to family and friends. I know they have to take care of the taxes, or I could pay those too with the amount I’ll be getting, supposedly and based on my currency. Is it better to e-transfer into their account, cashier’s check or trust?

T:AGAIN NOT A FINANCIAL ADVISER, HOWEVER, IT REALLY IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE WHETHER YOU E-TRANSFER, CASHIER'S CHECK, OR SET UP A TRUST (I GUESS YOU MEAN FOR THEM). AND, I'D SAY WRIET UP A GIFT RECEIPT TODAY, HAVE IT NOTORIZED AND JUST GIVE THEM CURRENCY BEFORE THE RATE SHOWS AS CHANGED. THIS WAY THERE IS NO TAXES BECAUSE OF THE NOMINAL AMOUNT.

Q: 4) I will have a LARGE amount of money. How can the bank “protect” my money while it is in there waiting for me to get my foundation set up?

T: THEY HAVE GIANT DINOSAUR SIZED PITBULLS TRAINED TO EAT ANYONE WHO TRIES TO TOUCH YOUR MONEY IN THE BANK LOL JUST KIDDING

THERE IS SPECIFIC INSURANCE WRAPS THAT ENSURE THE MONEY YOU EXCHANGE WILL BE PROTECTED. BANKS ARE NOT THE SAME AS THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. CONSIDER THE BANK YOUR ADVOCATE, THEY WANT YOUR MONEY SAFE AS MUCH AS YOU DO.

Q: 5) I only have two types of currency: One REALLY large (ZIM) and the other VND; should I have two separate accounts for each and if so, why?

T: AGAIN I'M NOT A FINANCIAL ADVISER SO I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT THIS IS NOT A CONCERN OF MINE. BECAUSE I HAVE ZIM, AND UNDERSTAND THE RATE AND RESPONSIBILITY OF RECEIVING SUCH A RATE I KNOW THAT MAKING MONEY OF POSSIBLE RATE

CHANGES WILL NOT BE NECESSARY. IN ADDITION, THE RATES WILL BE SO HIGH, THAT EVEN IF YOU OPEN A MULTIPLE CURRENCY ACCOUNT, THERE'S A CHANCE THE RATE COULD GO DOWN FROM WHAT YOU INITIALLY EXCHANGE IT AT. I WILL EXCHANGE INTO THE NEW TRN/USN CURRENCY, PUT IT IN INTEREST BARING ACCOUNTS AND LIVE OFF THE INTEREST.

I WILL APPLY THE SAME PRINCIPLE TO MY HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS SO THAT THEY NEVER FALL SHORT ON FUNDING AND THEY CAN MEASURE THEIR SUCCESS BASED ON THEIR IMPACT ON HUMANITY RATHER THAN THEIR PROFITS.

Q: 6) It has been said that we can leave the bank/exchange center with no more than $9500.00 and then the other funds will be available after approximately 48 hours. Is THAT the time to open other accounts, transfer money to other banks etc., based on our agreement with the exchange/bank at the time?

T: THE LAST I HEARD, WE WILL BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE WITH $7500, SO THAT'S UP IN THE AIR. THE 48 HOURS WAS SAID TO BE FOR THE BANKS TO DO A BACK GROUND CHECK ON YOU TO ENSURE YOU'RE NOT A TERRORIST OR HAVE SOME MALICIOUS INTENT OR HISTORY. HOWEVER, I WAS RECENTLY TOLD THAT IF YOU PURCHASED CURRENCY FROM EBAY, EXCHANGE CENTERS, AMAZON OR A BANK, THEN YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN CLEARED OR YOU WON'T BE ALLOWED TO EXCHANGE.

Q: 7) I am putting together a team of people to assist: spiritual advisers, attorney(s), CPA (Forensic Investigator), etc. Is there anything else I can do at this point?

T: I'D MEDITATE AND BE GRATEFUL. FOCUS YOUR ENERGY ON WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IN THIS WORLD. DARE TO BE EXCEPTIONAL, OWN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LEADER AND ASK YOURSELF WHO DO YOU TRUST ENOUGH TO HELP YOU DO THAT. IN ADDITION, I'D RESEARCH WHAT A "FAMILY OFFICE" IS. AND, I'LL ASK A MEMBER WHO IS AN EXPERT IN SUCH MATTERS TO POST A DESCRIPTION IN THE TANK FORUM. THE "FAMILY OFFICE" WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION ON ALL OF THESE MATTERS.

Q: My husband may be going to Florida this week. Do I have to wait for his return to sign an NDA before I can take out any cash or get cashiers checks to pay off credit cards, car, etc?

T: BRUCE JUST UPDATED THIS AND SAID SPOUSES WILL BE ABLE TO EXCHANGE WITHOUT THE OTHER PRESENT. THEY WILL MOST LIKELY HAVE TO SIGN AN NDA. YOU SHOULD HAVE A CCESS TO A PORTION OF YOUR MONEY BEFORE HE RETURNS, AND IF YOU TELL THE BANKER THAT YOU HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, I'M SURE THEY WILL ACCOMMODATE YOU.

Q: Likely do you know anything about exchanging in Australia. Will it work the same way with 800#s?

T: I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOW TO EXCHANGE IN AUSTRALIA, HOWEVER, IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE THE SAME THING AND IF YOU CALL THE 800#S POSTED, I'M SURE THEY WILL GIVE YOU DIRECTION. IN THE MEAN TIME, I WILL REACH OUT TO SOME CONTACTS (THAT I NEED TO MAKE LOL) IN AUSTRALIA TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS A MORE SPECIFIC ANSWER FOR CLARIFICATION.

Q: In the post of "Gods Gift"; ( see link above) it said that all the first basket of currencies are now thought to be rolling out in a "gift card"; format does that mean we will receive gift cards instead of opening accounts? We can adjust our rates depending on our needs?

T: I HAVEN'T READ THAT POST AS OF YET, AND I FEEL THAT MARTHA WILL HAVE A MORE ACCURATE ANSWER AND WILL ASK HER TO HANDLE THAT ONE AND SEE IF SHE'D BE WILLING TO REPOST IT AFTERWARDS.

Q: Help a lurker out please. If the rate is calculated as all seem to be interpreting why does the rate of increase only show 2.33% instead of over 400%?

T: THE VALUE OF THE DINAR HAS BEEN FALSELY DEVALUED. HOWEVER, IT'S ACTUAL VALUE HAS LING BEEN MUCH HIGHER AND TRADED ON BACK SCREENS FOR ALMOST A YEAR. THAT BEING SAID, THE 2.33% IS MORE THAN LIKELY THE CURRENT INCREASE BASED ON THE OST REPORTED VALUE USED THERE. IT ALSO ALLOWS A LESS DRASTIC INTRODUCTION.

Do you agree with Yosef's allegation in his latest post that a computer hack stopped it last night?

AJM, historically, Yosef has been dead on. And, based on the little I know of him, if we didn't have the same information, I'd trust his intel over my own. So yes, if he said it was a computer hack, then it was a computer hack/cyber attack of some kind
Martha: EXPLANATIONS OF YOSEF'S POST
 
YES, THE CYBER ATTACK WAS DEFINITELY A FACTOR ALTHOUGH NOT THE FULL PROBLEM. THERE WERE CERTAIN DATES THAT GRANDFATHER HAD IN PLACE FOR YEARS AND THUS THREW OFF THE TIMING.

RV WAS PAID FOR IN ONE YEAR OF BOND TRADING. THEY ARE GIVING US THE PROFITS AS CURRENCY REDEMPTIONS

YOU ARE NOT RESTRICTED ON YOUR EXCHANGES AT ALL. yOU DECIDE HOW MUCH YOU WANT. THERE ARE NO STRINGS ATTACHED. THE RULES OF BANKING HAVE BEEN CHANGED SO THAT THIS WILL BE A SIMPLE PROCEDURE FOR ALL TO GO THROUGH.

THE RATES ARE VERY HIGH FOR EVERYONE. THIS IS FOR REAL.

THE ANALOGY ABOUT THE GIFT CARDS WAS JUST THAT. THINK ABOUT IT BEING ABLE TO PICK AND CHOICE THE RATES FOR THE CURRENCIES.

I WAS ACTUALLY SENT A PICTURE OF A BOARD OF ALL GIFT CARDS. WHAT FUN IT WOULD BE TO SELECT THE AMOUNTS I WANTED.

THOUGHTS OF BLUWOLF, 21 MARCH


"God's Gift" RV Update, Intel, ​Plea Monday - March 21, 2016, 21 MARCH

"God's Gift"  RV Update, Intel, ​Plea   Monday - March 21, 2016
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​Dear ​Brothers and Sisters,

There were some late security/cyber issues last night. Meaning, they started and stopped the RV in the USA. Was this accidental or intentional? One final pump fake to catch the last of the moles embedded by the bad guys? No one but Grandfather really knows for sure.

Now, how long they will take to restart the process we do not know either.

Some say it will be attempted again tonight. Some say Monday night, while others say Tuesday night to restart this event.

I'm no longer leaning either way because ​day, rate and time are irrelevant at this point. But what we know for sure is that late last night, right after the Springtime Vernal Equinox,

Sunday March 20, 2016, the Elders began an irreversible sequence to release humanity from bondage after centuries of planning and sacrifice. Yet it was suddenly halted.

Honestly, it's unfathomable to comprehend their patience or dedication needed to stop something so mammoth, but there must have been a good and Godly reason. So thank you Grandfather, Elders and all colors of the Dragon Families whenever you decide to bless the world. We trust your judgement.

Regardless of what exact time we are blessed, what's truly important is that our success is guaranteed by Christ the Savior who's life and death now allows for the Elders to be so meticulous in their planning. And the momentum needed to complete the RV is without question now overwhelming and building into a critical mass as humanity springs forward into another era of possibility and existence.

Sure the long hidden Middle Eastern monetary giant known as the Iranian Rial is now on front screens and rapidly moving higher by the minute (expect an announcement Tuesday morning AST regarding its international currency reinstatement); and yes all the first basket of currencies are now thought to be rolling out in a "gift card" format, whereby redeemers can adjust rates depending on individual needs--meaning, each of us can theoretically choose our own redemption rates/final amount depending on the currencies we hold.

Shut the front door! Boy, that would be one heck of a game changer

Thus all this incredible wealth we shall soon harvest is really just Christ's wealth reconstituted under our accounts. And therefore the true blessing of the RV rests in our ability to repurpose Christ's wealth for humanity through gifted monetary funds, and return the favor by handing out new gold-backed fishes and loaves to the tired and huddled masses.

WSOMN CHAT UPDATE, 21 MARCH

WSOMN

Wolfy: THERE WAS A CYBER ATTACK BUT IT WAS HANDLED AND NOW IT CANNOT BE DONE AGAIN--SO WE GO NOW

DO YOU ALL REALIZE THAT TOMORROW WILL BE EXACTLY 1 YEAR POST THE RV GOING LIVE--

AdminBill: THERE ARE SEVERAL POINTS OF VIEW REGARDING THE RV'S PROCESSING. FROM THE WF GROUP TO A SHOTGUN BLAST WHERE EVERYONE GOES AT ONCE. TRY TO RELAX AND JUST LET IT COME IN WHATEVER FORM AND BE GRATEFUL.

BODI:  PROOF OF RATE ON ISX 03/21/16

look at the ISX this morning

http://www.isx-iq.net/isxportal/portal/homePage.html?currLanguage=en

you will notice it's today's date and that the number of shares traded divided by the value of shares traded equals a new international rate of $4.32 its out in the public to view.
They can't hold you back for more than 24hrs from when this went live at 2am EST this morning.

FOR THE NAYSAYERS,  the trading day was Sunday but the conversion was last night and that is why the ISX is closed today