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Wednesday, January 20, 2016

IKO WARD & MARTHA IN CHAT, 20 JAN

Western States Open Mind Network CC 1-20-16

WSOMN WING IT CALL - WING IT CALL PLAY BACK INFO

Guests include Martha and Iko Ward

641-715-3589 159453# 13#   https://fccdl.in/rs3jizcPF

ETOILE AND HIGHDOLLARFOLKS Transcribing

Gerry,here we go, recording call, welcome to wing it call. jan 20, 2016, happy bday to martha, oiltalk happy bday to you,

Blondie: LISTENED TO RAY'S CALL SOMEONE HAD QUESTION OF BANK BAIL IN
B: STOP WORRINY ABOUT THIS ISSUE NOT GOING TO BE BAIL INS

londi commending ray on his call. caller had ? about bank bail in, you put your money in a bank and then went home to worry about the bank? stop doing that, there is not going to be bail in, like fincen form and other things, stop worrying about it

ON BLONDIES LIST OF THINGS TO SHARE KUDO TO RAY DO NOT RUSH DO NOT FALL PREY GO HOME AND RELAX GET THOUGHTS TOGETHER BE GROUNDED
 
other point ray made, do not rush to fund opportunity, do not fall prey to that. relax, get your STUFF together. opps are always going to present themselves, reason if you did not make it
RAY THANK YOU FOR THAT CALL IT WAS GREAT

ANY INFORMATION FROM CALL WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE SEEK YOUR OWN COUNSEL -DISCLAIMER-

OPEN VIEWING IN THE ROOM GERRY HAS HIS OWN SECTION GO TO HOME PAGE LOOK FOR TOPIC CALLED HOT HOT HOT

G: ANOTHER TID BIT TO SHARE GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT IKO SAYS
anther tidbit, from another site, message for Amer. People. Prepare for empty Grocery stores shelves

Go read the article, too much to type here, gist, are owners of shipping companies refusing to be paid in anything but chinese yuan

Martha, have the candles burned down to cake yet? You and Iko take it away

B: IKO AND MARTHA
 
M: GUESS THE MARKET IS GIVING US A BLOOD BATH TODAY

M: market giving us a blood bath today. down 197

 THEY ARE ALL RUNNING SCARED

GM: sounds like last of sell off to get us there

IT IS YOUR BIRTHDAY MARTHA BRING IT IN
 
m: nothing to report, camdoc did beautiful summary of dragon family, see that post
m feels that day is still young and still feels much can happen today  Link
M: ANY QUESTIONS?
 
Q & A STARTING
 
C: HAS ANY ONE FOUND OUT WHAT RAY WAS ELUDING TO ABOUT BANK INFO
FROM RAYS CALL TODAY

HE SAID HE HAD INFO THAT WAS REALLY GREAT
 
C: I BELIEVE WHAT RAY WAS BRINGING IN CONVERSATION EBAY HAS REGISTERED DEALERS SELLING UNITED STATES BILLS UNCIRCULATED
 
Banking comment is what he heard. anything to find out. Tex comment to excited, what Ray may have been brining into conversation, ebay has dealers selling 100 USD uncirculate. ? why 1 going to TRN or possibly prop up value of the dollar or 3 just to create a market for others to buy usd
 
m: 12 to 1 USD, wow

WE DO NOT KNOW IF THAT WAS WHAT HE WAS ILLUDING TO SOMETHING MORE THAN THAT I COULD BE WRONG
 
COULD IT BE IRAN WAS LOADING THEIR SWIFT CODES?

not sure if that was the real ? or could it be that banks in IRAn were loading swift codes, could it be that codes were successfully loaded and will start? but another article said that IRan banking system was not successfull and needed two weeks to complete
 
M: ON BRUCE CALL MADE AN INTERESTING COMMENT GUESSING HERE IS IT POSSIBLE THEY WENT THROUGH OUR BANKING SYSTEM AND CLEANED UP OUR CODES

M: take a stab at that ?, Bruce made comment about us bank holiday we just went thru. is it possible that they went thru banking syst and cleaned it up. M feels codes loaded in the sys over weekend.

M: IRAN ANNOUNCED AS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE AAIB.  FROM CALL LAST NIGHT.  floored Martha,
 
M: WE ARE STILL LOOKING TO OTHER INTERESTING CLUES
intersting drop of info. looking for other clues regarding that, possibly housekeeping done over weekend. we could be ready to do
 
Blondi" really Iran we are waiting for YOU to load the codes???? really it already is done, B does not feel we are waiting two weeks for IRan to load codes
 
C: DO YOU HAVE ANY FEELS ON THE RATE OF THE RIAL

M. IF IT HAD RI I STILL THINK IT DID I BELIEVE IT IS AT 3.22
THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY IN THE BASKET OF CURRENCY
THEY ARE IN THE SECOND BASKET OF CURRENCY 3.22 - 3.71 JUST A GUESS
 
Martha do you have any feel for rate of Rial. She thinks that it did RI because they are paying back bills, she feels it is at 3.22, they are not in basket but will be allowed to RV upward, they are actuallly in second basket of currency, from about 3.22 to as high as 3.71
 
C: SUCKER RATE .37 CENTS
Assuming value is 3.22 and you go to bank and they say give you smaller amount .37 cents, what is range for you to sell back to UST. Martha, does not feel that will happen but also will not take it
 
C: SPOKE WITH CURRENCY DEALER SAID LOWEST HE COULD FOUND .80 TO THE DOLLAR
C: BASED ON DEALERS INFO COULD BE RV RATE 3.21
 
heard rial not worth more than .63 cents, researched proved that. Someone said he could find was .63
 
Faith: Lady talking bout Rial, have we read poppy3 update?
range of rial from .10 cents to $3.21
 
ac 310: Oh my god, feel like talking to CELEBRATIES!
C: COMPLIMENTING THIS SITE GERRY AND BLONDIE
What others to think she is crazy, ? for group, martha : are these calls continuing post rv? Gerry answer?
 
Blondi answer, NO and HELL NO
Blondi, teasing,WE HAVE NO IDEAL THIS IS WORK IN PROGRESS
 
Imperium, lets be honest when this happens we will all dissolve
 
(MEANING DISAPPEAR)

 
310, info from depaul, exciting he just info about rv happening. Martha have you heard anything? She spoke to depaul and not anything yet
 
when we go to bank how will we know what zeros were dropped? Bank will know and you will know by dollar amount
can you elaborate on fiat to fiat or asset to asset backed, can you clarify>
 
C: WHEN YOU EXPLAINED FIAT TO FIAT THEN TO $ TO $ YUAN
G: WHEN YOU GO BANK TO eXHG CURRENCY FIRST QUESTION LIKE TO BUY CHINESE YUAN ONE TO ONE WE ARE ASSEST BACK PARITY
 
GM, take a shot at that- here we go, when you go in to exchange , after exchanged, first question is I would like to buy chinese Yuan, if it is not 1 to 1 you will know it is still in fiat system. If not one to one you will know. We do want it to be one to one
 
B: WINDOW WILL BE VERY SHORT 24 38 72 HOURS
IF RATE IS 6 YUAN TO ONE DOLLAR BUY AS MUCH AS YOU CAN
 
B: DO NOT GET CAUGHT UP GO TO BANK EXH IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS TYPE OF TRANSACTION THIS IS OPPORTUNITY NEED YOUR WITS ABOUT YOU
 
Window is going to be short, 24 to 48 possibly or more like 72 hours. if you exchange and rate is 6 yuan to 1 dollar, buy as much as you can, sit on it. Blondi, get in bank and do exchange. if you are not comforatable with type of transaction don;'t do it. keep your witts about you but do not stress about it
 
DO NOT STRESS THERE WILL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES
 
Iko ON NOW
 
C: LAST NIGHT WATCHING EVENING NEW NBC DID A STORY ABOUT IRAN AND STOCK MARKET
showed how they iran do exchange in stock market, do they need to be ingternational with currency to exchange in stockmarket
 
C: BIG QUESTION DO THEY NEED TO BE INTERNATIONAL (IRAN STOCK EXH IN IRAN) THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE INTERNATIONAL TO BE INCOUNTRY STOCK EXH FOR THEM
 
Iko, do have to be operating to purchase stock as US citizen, you would have to go thru licenensed broker
 
does not sound like internationally traded stock, thru broker only authorized to sell that stock, not yet able to do it
 
IKO, been booted off twice, system was maxed and kicked all off yesterday.
 
Kate: going to mention that poppy3 post, about agreement with iraq and iran that Iran would refrain from chaning their rate until Iraq releases there rate
 
C: IRAN & IRAQ TRADE PARTNERS INFO FROM POPPIES DINAR RECAPS POSTED
ON Dinar recaps so read it
 
wheels: going to release to IKO or Gerry
GM over to you: Iko you got anything?
 
Iko: I CAN EXPRESS WHERE I AM AT FOR ME AT THIS MOMENT I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS DONE
I BELIEVE INCLUDING IRAN IN THE MIX AT THIS TIME HAS BROUGHT UP A FEW REFINEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY THAT IS WHAT IS BEING WORKED ON
 
IKO, don't have any intel, asked to express where he is at, for me at this moment, I believe, everything is done, I believe that including Iran in themix at this time, brought up a few refinement that are necessary to include them in general mix.
 
I DO NOT FEEL BANKS ARE HOLDING THIS UP THEY ARE TRYING TO GET IT ALL CO ORDINATED
 
don't think anyone holding up, making sure nothing backfires, iran so heavily in mix specially with iran oil. We do not matter. But nothing holding up except making sure Iran is in the mix and all is done
 
My thought's are that this has absolutely nothing to do with the banks
 
G: ARE THE SHIPS STILL OUT IN THE PORTS NOT TIED TO THE DOCKS EVERY 4 HOURS MORE SHIPS AND VARIED SHIPS COMING IN ASSITING OTHER SHIPS EX: CHANGE OIL
gm: are ships sitll there? IKO they are not tied to the dock but more ships have come in and more varied types have come in: ie: maintanence ship will come out, that type of support ship has come out
 
Ilo: THE PILOTS BOATS KNOW HOW TO GET SHIPS ON DOCKS OFF SHORE SUPPLY BOATS
I: ALL THAT TYPE OF VESSALS AROUND 100 TANKERS UP AND DOWN PERSIAN GULF WAITING TO BE LOADED
I: ONY ONES LOADED AND GONE ARE THE CHINESE SHIPS TELLS US RIGHT THERE
 
I: I KNOW MANY ARE FOCUSED ON ARTICLES BANKS IKO STICKING WITH SHIPS THAT TELLS ME THIS IS DONE FOLLOW THE MONEY
 
people focused on banks, articles, etc, IKO is focuef on ships, Follow the money! chinese, all ships on Pacific rim are still hanging around and waiting to go also
 
gm, ? from forum: some question answered, lower demons still question out there?
 
Dr. Clark said no rv till end of march, he can run with that. are you taking a tape recorder to currency exchange and wealth mgr meeting? YES I am, bet your sweet bippy
 
fractional reserve banking question? for every 10$ put in they can borrow up to 90$ above it. That is our opinion
G: ONCE AGAIN THIS CALL IS ABOUT OUR OPINION DISCLAIMER
 
Aiib , iran founder , did this change anything, no
 
G:PREPARE FOR THE WORST HOPE FOR THE BEST
 
what have you heard about contract rates and sucker rates, Anwere: people are getting confused. people hearing get in and get out fast, and then sucker rate, believe they are based in good thinking. get in , ask the rate and if you think it is a sucker rate
I: CONFUSING ISSSUES OUT THERE : GET IN AND GET OUT SUCKER RATE OUT THERE WHAT WE WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT ASK WHAT THE RATE IS IF BELOW 3.91 SUCKER RATE
 
I: WE ARE HEARING THERE ARE EXCELLENT RATES OUT THERE $5 - 8$ FOR DINAR SIMILIAR INFO COMING FOR OTHERS
 
I: AT THE BANK BANKER SAYS I OFFER YOU $2.00 WE KNOW IT IS A SUCKER RATE
 
I: WE CAN BARGAIN WE CAN GO THRU THE MOUSE WE CAN GO TO OTHER BANKS YOU WANT TO GET THAT RATE
 
I: FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS YOU WANT TO PURCHASE YUAN NEED TO NEGIATE BEST RATE
i; GO IN NEGOTIATE BEST RATE BUY YUAN AND THEN SIT BACK
 
M: DISCUSSING HOURS OF BANKS CLOSING TIME LINES ON BANKS
 
HIGHDOLLARFOLKS:  I typed in what IKO said and it was too long, I will have to cut and paste it to put in later
 
I: WHAT DO YOU THINK ANNUAL BUDGET FROM STATE OF NEW JERSEY :
 
Blondi? money given to iran by USA was it pay back or frozen, IKO, frozen returned
 
from IKO about bank rates: if you get a low rate, we are now hearing there are great rates out there from 5.50 up to 8 for dinar, similar info for dong, rupiah, zim, use dinar as example, you are efficent and you get in quickly.
 
from Iko part 2:banker says offer you $2.39 and yo know it isa sucker rate. you say I heard rate up to 8.00, you begin to bargin. we can go thru first 2 MICE at that meeting.
 
IKO part 3:You can say you are ready to walk and have other banks in hand who will talk to you. You do not want to wait on the rates to go up.
 
M: FOREX UP TO 1059
M: ONLY A MARKER
 
IKO bank comment 4:If you want to do the chinese yuan viable then you want to purchse youyuan. don';t wait for the market to go up. negotiate best rate then.
 
I: SHIPPING IS WHERE IT IS AT
TELLS A STORY
IKO bank comment part 4:use the $8.49 rate in back of your head as the staring negotiated rate that you can shoot for
 
WHATYOU SEE NOT WHAT SAID FOLLOW THE MONEY SHIPS WILL NOT MOVE UNTIL PAID..
ships will not moved until they get paid, follow the money. countries are making adjustment due to downfall of oil
 
we are trained to think in week long segments, these guys have been thinking about oil issues for a LONG time
all of issues discussed and decided on, rest is just a show

C: CHANGING SUBJECT MENTIONED IN PASSING SOMETHING ABOUT CHINESE FAMILIES CAMDOC DID A WHOLE EXPOSE' IN CHAT ROOM
 
M: AT SOME POINT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE FAMILIES
Martha: his discussion was good and should be read. we will do it about families on separte call
 
Blondi: getting new list together. Gerry said that is your job!! Blondi will crack his skull with Blue Moon!LOL
 
Q: know you do not like forex anymore, should we watch forex at all or not worth it. Martha gave up on watching it, IKO said forex dead because so manipulated
 
C: SECONG BASKET ANY CURRENCY YOU PREFER IS PLACE I CAN STUDY WHICH ONES MIGHT BE THE STRONGEST
2nd q: asked you yesterday about 2nd basket, currencies you like more in 2nd basket
 
M, two to do well, East central and west central on list, looking it up. Namibia dollar to do good. 2 remember ,cfa frank, West african cfa frank, russian ruble
 
Brazilian rial, indian rupee, yuan, Mongolain, zimbabwe,
 
M: CENTRAL AFRICAN CSA FRANK WEST AFRICAN CSA FRANK
Zimbabwe in both baskets
 
just giving list, Central african frank, west african frank, Namibian in first basket. Original list of 24 but could be changed
 
BANGELDASH IN SECOND BASKET
 
what I should to study, 2nd basket is countries called N-11, bangladesh could be strong also, Iran is in 2nd basket, coming out benefiting 1st basket
 
GOOGLE N-11 OLD INFO THAT WAS POSTED GOES BACK TO JULY 2014
Goggle N-11 countries, old info from dinar guru blog. from July 2014 info.
POSTED IN RECAPS
pillipinnes in 2nd basket also
bob from tx: did they have to ri incountry to be able to change their stocks
 
any country can be in both baskets, released at different times and can go up a little each time
 
C: ALL THESE COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH US DOLLARS NOW GOING BACK TO THEIR OWN CURRENCY
 
MEANTIME GETTING US OFF THE STREETS NEED TO USE OUR OWN CURRENCY PAPER HAS NO INSTRISIC VALUE
 
Iran redenominated their currency, in mean time they need USD off the street. They are pulling paper off streets, paper no intrinsic value. eventually Martha feels we will all go to coinage
iran was never pegged to US banking system
 
We have CIPS that brics came out with, to replace swift system
 
C: THEY WILL COME BACK INTERNATIONAL RATE WHEN IRAN RV IRAN HOLD A CABOODLE FULL OF DINARS

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