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Saturday, December 12, 2015

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 12 DEC


12-12-2015   Intel Guru Frank26   Article quote:  "...confirmed the Iraqi Central Bank on Saturday, it will put the plan to attract the Iraqi currency chunky in the homes of citizens for the purpose of investment..."  [I’ve been trying to figure out what they mean by chunky.  LD's are coming in CHUNKS.]   Keyword... MASSIVE.  ALSO YOU MUST NOTE FROM NOW ON:  No approvals...No amendments...No passing...No readings...JUST ACTIVATIONS.  Now.

12-12-2015   Newshound Guru rcookie
   Article:  "Jubouri's office announced the budget put forward for a vote in Parliament next Monday ANOTHER CONFIRMATION ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT BUDGET VOTE FOR 14TH...THIS ONE FROM JABOURI HIMSELF.

12-12-2015   Newshound Guru wmawhite
   ...the IMF announced 3 weeks ago a new MoU with the CBI and expectation of Iraq re-entering the economy markets prior to the first half of 2016.  Regardless of 90 days or no 90 days...the IMF has already stated what their expectations are...that Iraq is going to do something during the first part of 2016.  Done, done and done.  the IMF would never open their mouths...state what they expect Iraq to do unless they have a solid reason to do so.  Of course...if the CBI is in concert with the IMF everything that we are seeing is headed towards those expectations...With all of this said...what is needed by the CBI to "re-enter the economy markets during the first half of 2016?  Answer: a currency that Iraq can conduct international commerce...to do what? Conduct business.  And IMO...this is truly where we are today...we have been told what to expect by the IMF.

12-12-2015   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  Jubouri's office announced the budget put forward for a vote in Parliament next Monday.  [...you think rate is in the budget...?]  No - I don't, the rate is where it has always been - the CBI, when it is time... they will change it.

12-12-2015   Newshound Guru Millionday
    ...THE BANKING CONFERENCE TO MOVE IRAQ TO THE MARKET IS ON THE 12TH AND 13TH OF THIS MONTH.  IT INCLUDES ALL BANKS AND THEY HAVE ALREADY MET FOR WORKSHOP... HAVE ROLES AND HAVE ALREADY TAKEN STEPS FOR THE MOVE TO THE MARKET.  THE 16TH OF THIS MONTH IS THE HUGE ECONOMIC CONFERENCE WITH ALL EXPERTS AND PROFESSIONALS.

12-12-2015   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article:  "Najib: raise 5 trillion dinars from the payment on credit projects in order to reduce budget deficit"    Iraq is really in a bind. I saw a picture the other day of the Kurdistan region, almost all the high rise construction was stopped. Then you add all these provinces that are war zones, and the areas that are not (like Basra), but don't get their share of the budget and you have a real mess. I don't think these articles really tell the whole story of just how dire it has become. Under those circumstances, just how many companies are going to work in Iraq on credit? Especially when they can't even pay the oil companies that are the only source of the their revenue.

KTFA CHAT UPDATE, 12 DEC

KTFA : 

Frank26:  KTFA FAMILY …… WS IS TRYING TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING.
Zerb:  ty WS!   the wheels of progress are getting some real traction… Citizens empty your mattresses come get your fresh crisp LD’s
Bulldawgirl:  DETERMINED TO  ACTIVATE! ACTIVATE! ACTIVATE!!
PRIVATE BANKING!  HOUSING! ECONOMIC! AGRICULTURE!  TOURISM!!
I LIKE IT!!   THANK YOU WALKINGSTICK!!
Walkingstick:  Abadi calls for the banking sector to transform the quality and quantity and confirms the activation of the role of private banks
12/12/2015
Independent) … Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi called on the banking sector to make a leap in the quantity and quality of banking activity in Iraq, and stressed the government’s determination to activate the role of private banks.
Ebadi said in a speech read on his behalf by Minister of Planning and Salman al-Jumaili at the annual banking conference in Iraq and I followed (Independent) said on Saturday that “the banking sector’s role in building the national economy capable of advancement and development is to support the armed forces and the crowd and clans who Istron bright pages in the history of Iraq against Daash published his crimes in other countries, Iraqis are becoming larger Almtsidian him. ”
Jumaili said that “the banking sector in Iraq under the government sector for decades and with the confidence enjoyed by the Central Bank of Iraq and the limited number of State-owned banks, but the requirements of comprehensive political change and economic challenges set by the front.”
He pointed out that “the emergence of many activities within the Department of Banking Activities Kalkda banking and project finance all investment signs of a new need to consolidate and sustainability,” asserting that “the most important thing was adopted by the government in the reform package is to develop the financial sector through the issuance of a set of procedures and policies that emphasized the implementation and follow-up. ”
Jumaili He pointed out that “the country’s difficult financial circumstance as a result of lower oil prices at a time when its economy was characterized as a mono over many decades,” stressing that “the time has come to activate the economic, agricultural, tourism and other sectors.”
He stressed that “the adoption of a new philosophy of the state based on a free economy and privatization is supposed to support the actions of this transformation the emergence of a strong and efficient banking sector,” calling on the banking sector to “conduct an objective review of the problematic in some private banks, which harmed the interests of some of its customers and weakened the confidence to deal with it.”
Jumaili said that “banks and financial institutions the most important engine of the economy, development and reflected strength in many countries on the strength of its economy,” calling on the banking sector to “make a leap in the quantity and quality of the banking activity in Iraq.”
Jumaili and referred to the “lending for industrial and agricultural projects, housing initiative in the amount of 5 trillion dinars, as well as one text trillion dinars for small projects and launched a few days ago,” asserting “the determination of the government to take serious steps to ensure the success of this initiative.”
He said al-Abbadi in his speech that “the government is determined to activate the role of the private banks,” warning “to put obstacles delayed implementation of the fact that it intended to get the economy moving and to diversify its sources and reduce unemployment,” and threatened “to hold accountable for negligence.” (End)
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Walkingstick:  Abadi: It’s time to activate the economic, agricultural and tourism sectors
Saturday 12 December 2015 12:26
said Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, Saturday, that the time has come to activate the economic, agricultural and tourism sectors, stressing that the government is determined to activate the role of private banks. Ebadi said in a speech at the annual banking conference Iraq, was read on his behalf by Minister of Planning and Salman al-Jumaili, The “Our country is going through a difficult financial circumstance as a result of lower oil prices,” noting that “the time has come to activate the economic, agricultural and tourism sectors.”
He added, “The government has launched days before the lending initiative for industrial and agricultural projects, housing $ 5 trillion dinars, as well as 1.5 trillion dinars for small enterprises, and the cooperation between the government and the World Bank have an important role in the success of this initiative.” He stressed, “The government is determined to activate the role of banks own. ”
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Wslkingstick:  The annual conference of the Iraqi banking
12/12/2015 12:30 |   Direction Press / Baghdad
It kicked off the morning of the annual banking conference sponsored by the Iraqi prime minister Haider al-Abadi.
Said Wadih Handal Chairman of the Association of private banks in a speech during the conference that “the conference will discuss during the two things very important for the advancement of the banking sector and access to financial inclusion that we aspire to him.”
Alan:  I’ve been trying to figure out what they mean by chunky.(see article below)
I see or think they are trying to go cashless for employees having them use their cards.
Frank26:  Keeping with less of me here is a short answer:
LD’s are coming in CHUNKS.
Keyword………… MASSIVE.
ALSO YOU MUST NOTE FROM NOW ON :
No approvals …… No amendments ……… No passing ………. No readings ……… JUST ACTIVATIONS.
Now.
LOL………. So much for a short answer 😉  KTFA   Frank
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Walkingstick:  The central bank intends to develop a plan to attract funds chunky among the citizens of Asttmar
By Wab4 – December 12, 2015 15:55 0 17
Baghdad / WAP / confirmed the Iraqi Central Bank on Saturday, it will put the plan to attract the Iraqi currency chunky in the homes of citizens for the purpose of investment, noting that 77% of the Iraqi currency traded in the market are chunky in the role.
The governor of the Central Bank on the Keywords in the third banking conference held by the Association of Iraqi banks and I followed news agency, Baghdad International / WAP / that “77% of the Iraqi currency in circulation today in chunky in the homes market,” pointing out that “these funds are outside the banking sector “.
Keywords and added that “if the banks have done to provide services to customers in order to attract this money saved, it will contribute to move the Iraqi economy,” noting that “the central bank has a plan in order to attract these funds for the purpose of investment and moving the wheel of the Iraqi economy,” ./ ended
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Walkingstick:  Rafidain Bank calls for staff to use the smart card to prevent the theft of their salaries
12/12/2015
BAGHDAD / JD / .. announced Rafidain Bank for its continuation in issuing the smart card (ironing Card) to their beneficiaries in the number of its branches, as called for to take advantage of this service is to prevent the theft of salaries.
The general director of the bank on behalf of Kamal al-Hassani said in a statement received / JD / a copy of it: that the bank and in coordination with the global smart card continues to grant Alveh card for some state employees, retirees and groups other covered by them after determining the number of its branches to receive that card.
stressing that ironing Card makes it easier for the holder receiving Roatbh anywhere and prevent the exposure of funds the movement of staff manually to their constituencies of theft by weak people. / End / 22 /

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 12 DEC

TNT : 

TennWolfMan:  I am excited, and I have sources saying we are there, have already RVed and coming our way slowly and cautiously. …its all good–no bad
Fitzgerald:  ALTHOUGH THERE IS A LOT GOING ON WITH THE MARKETS AND THE ECONOMY, DONT FORGET TO LIVE YOUR LIVES AND ENJOY YOUR FAMILIES THIS WEEKEND,
THE RV IS IN A SLOW ROLL OUT AS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD SO LETS MAKE SURE WE AREADY WITH OUR PLANS
WE ARE HEARING NEXT WEEK IS OUR WEEK, TIME WILL TELL ALL
CODreamer:  All of a sudden it will just show, imo and then we will have our turn. Until then, enjoy the holiday season
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Elmerf123456: (Reposted) As you know, THIS weekend would circumvent a myriad of problems approaching later in the week.
At this moment, it appears that this WILL be an RV into asset-backed gold-backed US Treasury dollars. The actual adjustment will likely occur Saturday night, so be ready for news either Sunday night or Monday morning.
The problems being the market and how it relates around the world. We are in a fantastic position!
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[sunny] This am on OM: (Open Mic call) Final approval will come from IMF. . . UN operational rates update to be published was yesterday – updates are there and Dinar still showing 1170
[sunny] more on OM this am: ” Elmer123456 Getting reports from all over. Intel popping. Make sure you get rest this w/e. could go down any minute. Much activity after market closed. I haven’t been this excited in a long time. I think we are here.”
[sunny] OM: 3rd friday of each month, triple witching, options expire in 3 markets – we are looking for a big down turn in the market and the triple witching can cause big swings in the stock market.
[sunny] OM: hearing companies merging together so they can save each other and not each go down. something could happen this w/e. much falling together into alignment.
[sunny] OM: Abadhi protesting Turkey interruption in their affairs. He warned private banks to block implementation of private loans; housing and agricultural projects. Gov and bank cooperating with CBI for success. Gov. determined to limit the roles of the private banks to implement diversificaiton of the economy. Saying the gov/t trying to privatize the banks.
[sunny] OM: Libicdian bank giving out smart cards
[sunny] OM: banks been stealing money left and right so cards cut down on chance of money being stolen.
[sunny] OM: schools were held up at gun point and stole the money. Last article: killing of sr. leaders of Daash. Three leaders killed
[sunny] OM: 4 major leaders of Daash killed in Iraq. Targeted during a special air strike, near the Syrian border. Trying to eliminate the problem once and for all for a common Iraq.
[sunny] OM: Wrap Up: things are in alignments. markets have to do something -all in trouble. china sitting ready to go. this could go at any moment, any minute, any hour any day.
[sunny] OM: tremendous  amount of announcements next week, all has to happen soon. pray it happens this weekend. we will be back here Mon. morning. have a blessed weekend and a great day.
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[xyz] Jubouri urges to pass the budget within the constitutional timings “The meeting discussed ways to accomplish the general budget for 2016 project and develop appropriate solutions to the problems and obstacles, and the form in which it fits with the general reforms, and meets the need of the Iraqi people and guarantee him an appropriate standard of living and a decent life.”   LINK
[xyz] Products: 77% of the Iraqi currency traded in a chunky homes ..Central Bank Governor on the Keywords, Saturday, that 77% of the Iraqi currency traded in the market are chunky in residential buildings, pointing out that the bank will put the plan to attract these funds to invest. …………… noting that “the central bank has a plan in order to attract these funds for the purpose of investment and moving the wheel of the Iraqi economy.”  LINK 
[xyz] FINALLY … Abadi: It’s time to activate the economic, agricultural and tourism sectors He stressed, “The government is determined to activate the role of the private banks.   LINK 

POPPY3 TIDBITS, 12 DEC

I BELIEVE RATE TO BE VISIBLE AND USABLE BY OR BEFORE JAN 1.
THIS IS AND HAS BEEN MY OPINION AND WITH ALL THE POSTS THAT THE IMF AND CBI HAVE STATED HOW COULD ANYONE NOT SEE THIS THE SAME WAY?
EITHER THEY ARE DOING THIS OR NOT BUT I CAN’T SEE ANY REASON TO…KEEP CALLING THEIR RATE SITUATION URGENT…ANNOUNCING THEY HAVE DISTRIBUTED LD’S TO ALL BANKS ETC.
ALL THESE STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE DIRECT SOURCES…
I AM PLANNING ON A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR.

MARTHA UPDATE, 12 DEC

The Chinese fireworks are now in play. We watch from afar but strongly hearing that the date 12/15 is THE date of our blessing.
Many sources saying there is no turning back now
There are those who still don’t want this to happen for Humanity but we know that we are the winners.
These dark sided ones are being dealt with, especially in their pocketbooks, but this will pave the way for all of us to go forth to help each other; educate and initiate the changes this planet needs desperately.
Govt budget:
In all the great info about the Fed meetings 15th and 16th also be reminded that Congress did not meet it’s 12/11 deadline and has pushed it back to no later than 12/16.What do you think they are waiting for?
Obviously,like I said,a lot depends on which way this goes RV or no, fiat vs asset backed. My vote is RV/asset backed but who am I? I am still a poor senior citizen! (Hopefully not much longer ).
Martha
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From Reuters News:
Yemen’s Houthi group says ceasefire to start on December 14: spokesman
A ceasefire in Yemen’s civil war will start on Dec. 14, the eve of planned peace talks in Switzerland next week, the head of the Houthi delegation to the peace talks said on Saturday.
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We have peace talks starting on the 14th/15th. How very interesting and the timing !!!   Martha
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From Reuters News:
Turks keeping troops in Iraqi camp, Baghdad turns to U.N.http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0TU1GG20151212
President Tayyip Erdogan declared on Friday he would not bow to Iraqi demands he withdraw Turkish troops from a camp close to the Islamic State-held city of Mosul, and Baghdad said it would ask the U.N. Security Council to order them to leave.
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From Reuters News:
Turkey’s Erdogan says Iraqi appeal to Security Council ‘not honest’http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0TU2O020151212
Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that a complaint lodged by Iraq’s government to the U.N. Security Council about the presence of Turkish forces in the country was not an honest step.
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From Reuters News:
March of Santas brings message of peace to Pakistan http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=366654276
Hundreds of Pakistani Christians, most of them dressed as Santa Claus, march through the streets of Lahore during the “Peace Festival” in celebration of Christmas. Jillian Kitchener reports..
It’s beginning to really look like a very blessed Xmas this year
Martha

TNT CHAT WITH ELMERF123456, PART.2, 12 DEC

elmerf123456 wrote
9m ago

As you know, THIS weekend would circumvent a myriad of problems approaching later in the week. At this moment, it appears that this WILL be an RV into asset-backed gold-backed US Treasury dollars. The actual adjustment will likely occur Saturday night, so be ready for news either Sunday night or Monday morning. The problems being the market and how it relates around the world. We are in a fantastic position!

COdreamer wrote
4m ago

elmer does the RV into asset-backed gold-backed UST dollars change anything for us at exchange time?

elmerf123456 wrote
1m ago

Intel call is moved to 11 est.

elmerf123456 wrote
1m ago

It could come as fiat. Asset back is parity rates not the rates we've been hearing. That is fiat. If it goes fiat, more than likely it will be a short window b4 going asset backed.

elmerf123456 wrote
22s ago
Correct. The asset backed system has been in play quite a while. If it goes Fiat, the question ischia much pain threshold can the banks withstand.

elmerf123456 wrote
10s ago

I hope we are done. I want this just as much as anyone and am in the same spot as most.
COdreamer wrote
16s ago

elmer any thoughts on how asset-backed affects the rates at exchange time?

g8way2k wrote
moments ago
Is there a tutorial in our forum that explains what asset backed and fiat means in relation to our exchange?

elmerf123456 wrote
34s ago

Contest rates and high rates are segmented with the fiat system. Asset backed rates are more of a parity play butcyouvhave more buying power because an asset backed dollar is more valuable than fiat because it's backed. Fiat isn't backed by anything!

cudbuck wrote
1m ago
Reuters reported yesterday that the head of CME, which controls/runs the COMEX, resigns today..Ms Hunnable formerly worked for NM Rothchild, so she is eyeball deep in the metals market manipulation and the 600 BILLION+ puts coming home to roost on the 16th...main reason why the markets will go crazy, per martha & iko

elmerf123456 wrote
21s ago
Cud buck. That's called the unwinding.

elmerf123456 wrote
moments ago

Contract not contest.

elmerf123456 wrote
moments ago
I will take the rate system that comes and work my plan. Finishing this is the prize regardless of how it goes.

lovely2 wrote
1m ago
elmer would u prefer asset to fiat?

elmerf123456 wrote
39s ago

Fiat first then asset is my hope.

pigmy577 wrote
17s ago

Elmer inyo if we exchange in fiat and it is in a account what will happen when it goes asset backed to the ammount?.................

elmerf123456 wrote
16s ago
Pigmy a dollar is a dollar. You will have more buying power once it's asset value.

elmerf123456 wrote
moments ago

As China goes the world will follow.

Driftcurrent wrote
moments ago
I think if all bricks and n11 are going to be asset backed than a fiat dollar no matter how small a window it takes to go asset will be a big hurt for US

elmerf123456 wrote
moments ago
Currency system can be one way. You can have asset-backed currency and Fiat currency operating simultaneously it's one or the other

lovely2 wrote
40s ago
elmer if it comes out as fiat would you put it into the yuan until we go asset backed?

elmerf123456 wrote
12s ago
Lovely that's my plan.


Additional talk:

Driftcurrent wrote
4m ago
Elmer like you said how much pain can the banks handle under fiat

elmerf123456 wrote
3m ago
Drift not much more IMO.

Driftcurrent wrote
3m ago
Elmer we will have to be on our toes and move fast if this thing pops or smells like fiat

elmerf123456 wrote
2m ago
Yes it will. Drift yes you will.


lovely2 wrote
1m ago
elmer what will happen if we dont make the change to yuan and our currency stays in a us bank? do we stand to lose alot?

elmerf123456 wrote
1m ago
Lovely once this happens the banks will be flush for appeared of time it's important that you don't deal with banks that are very high in the derivatives you can go on Bis.org and look up that

elmerf123456 wrote
21s ago
You don't have to buy Yuan. However once that changes to go back it should increase about 600 to 800% so another words whatever you purchased it will go up about 6 to 8 times in value of that making money on your money

elmerf123456 wrote
14s ago
Gold backed

elmerf123456 wrote
10s ago

US dollar will not fail. It will adjust.

elmerf123456 wrote
moments ago

Hence the word currency reset.

elmerf123456 wrote
moments ago
We as a country during this adjustment. Will experience some hyperinflation put us currency holders will not be affected like others

elmerf123456 wrot

But not put
COdreamer wrote
54s ago
elmer if it goes asset-back first, would you still hold off investing until things adjust and calm down?

elmerf123456 wrote
1m ago
B2. US currency will go through an adjustment period like others but of course it will not fail but it will take a step back and a leap forward

elmerf123456 wrote
32s ago
There is no doom and gloom here currency reset is just what it says and because of the current season we all hold There is no doom and gloom here currency reset is just what it says and because of the currencies we all hold

elmerf123456 wrote
25s ago

It will be a blessing for all of us.