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Friday, December 4, 2015

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 4 DEC

elmerf123456 Bottom line is we are not concerned about the RV, because we all agree that we are in a fantastic spot. We just need them to do what they need to do, and get it over with!All Intel and evidence and things that we hear, inside and outside of the intel group, has everyone excited.
Iko Ward:  I know most people watching Forex are focused on the Dinar, but take a look at what the Dong did last night. Dropping 1108 points is akin to the dinar dropping to 1070. Notice how they used to poll in tandem but now are independent. Look at this in light of what Ray announced today and the volatility in the markets and the erratic action of Gold today. Follow the money.
TennWolfMan: $anta is coming and it won’t be long $anta is coming and it won’t be long
Tizfitz3:  read on recaps today the Federal Researve is having a closed door meeting today at 4pm in Washington Department of Criminals.. Seems odd to me they would have a meeting on a Friday that late in the day… hmmm  Link
TennWolfMan:  If you missed what happened — I was needing a truck cause mine is shot and the bank would not lend me money on my currency but they called me in today and told me I was approved and I got a truck
Dansmore:  Tennwolfman.. did they use your currency as collateral??
Tennwolfman :  who would have thought foreign currency would be used as collateral for a truck
Tennwolfman :  I am almost positive that I won’t have to make the first payment lol lol.

SCORPIO INTEL :“Announcement Shortly”, 4 DEC

“Announcement Shortly” – Intelligence Report from Scorpio for 12/4
1:29:00 PM Intelligence Report – Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 15:50 EST
Below is an old post from October of 2014.
This was posted by David Wilcock; the Neil he is referring to is Neil Keenan…
“Neil has managed to do a lot of digging and much effort to try to get to the bottom of the ‘information’ he had heard. He has spoken to the Dragon family and the Pentagon to discover that it is indeed a False Flag coordinated by an agent of the Bush faction as a distraction and to create confusion. Neil recognized the name ‘Robert Won’ and instinctively this raised an alarm as Won is not part of the Dragon family and so would never be the person in a position to ‘sign over the gold’.
Also the family and China have made it clear that they will never waive the debt, meaning that they will not blame the people for the debt but attribute it appropriately to the Zionists, Nazis and other associated negatives. As usual Neil saw that there were half truths woven into the ‘information’ as with all disinformation in an attempt to give it credibility.
Neil states that what is real is that the East is mostly all cleaned up in relation to banking activity, this includes Hong Kong and the HSBC (Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation) – which are now operating proper banking protocols; because the family has ‘mopped the floor with them’. Neil continues that nearly all of Asia have now got their banks working properly and there is no more ‘Fed BS’ occurring.
Nevertheless, the West is still attempting to play with us – even though the West are on their last legs and in the final death throes. The Dragon family have made it clear to Neil that when the ‘signings’ do occur, these will be in China not the US and in addition there will be no signings in the Philippines as has been mentioned.
Information has just been made available to me that these ‘signings’ have just now occurred on December 5, 2015 at 4:00 AM GMT+8. And the IMF had just sent the approval for Iraq to revalue its currency. Iraq is to make the announcement shortly.
It is currently the 4th, 3:55 PM EST as I am writing this post, the said time above was only 55 minutes ago.
It has also been confirmed that the TRN’s are ready and are in the banks and have been for a while. Thus, the IMF has been given the green light to ‘flip the switch’. But Iraq must make the announcement first.
The traffic light is currently on yellow, folks. Get ready.
Wait and watch are the only things we can foresee.
|Scorpio|

TNT : TONY'S CLIFF NOTES, 4 DEC

    • sunny said
      10:23 AM Dec 4, 2015
    Highlights of TNT conference call.  Updated as the call progresses.  
    Bank memo went out to US banks yesterday evening with specific instructions for exchanging.    
    Ray: This is an information site.  We share from the various sources that we receive it.  
    Roaches move in the dark. Don't want the light turned on as they don't want to be discovered.  But the light will be turned on sooner or later.  About Tony, me, Pam, whatever you hear you have to ask yourself, "How does it affect you?"  
    At the appropriate time you want to take your foreign currency and exchange it.  That is what you are looking for.  The information we share with you is what we are hearing, what we are being told, what we read.  In the past months, a year back, did it not come to pass?  Not stuff we created.  It was stuff others told us and we shared it.
    So, to the roaches, 'have fun.  Sooner or later the light will be turned on and you will be exposed.'
    We have a new site:  TNT Showtime.  To access it go to www.tntsuperfantastic.com   Everything will be the same.  We shouldn't be here too much longer.
    INTEL:  Iraq sources saying RV has begun and is in the system!  Lower denom's in the system and being mostly distributed in Kurdistan. 
    CURRENT WINDOW:   Bank Memo said, "Federal Reserve, FDIC and UST released the dinar to be exchanged immediately."                                       Ray: Green light is on here, there, everywhere. . .If this memo proves to be true and accurate, the word immediately I've never taken to be 7 days from now.  
    IRAQ:    Iraq sources saying RV has begun and is in the system!  Ray:  I am happy with it's in the system and has begun and then the memo went out.  Hallelujah Day!  That's where I am!
    • No recent news on Maliki     
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    INTERNATIONAL:    
    • Canada banks are creating databases and Canada is opening up.         
    • Rates    
    UNITED STATES:     Ray feels because of the word "immediately" in the memo, US troop movement into Iraq will have no affect on the RV release.
    • Banks:  open, receiving customers and openly talking about the currencies and optimistic about exchanging the currencies. 
    • Gift Tax Questions:  Call the IRS and be sure and get the employee identification number who answers your questions.
    • CAPS & TAXES:  Nothing new on either one.   Ray:   Nothing new on caps and nothing official pertaining to the taxes.
    • Background Checks:  Ray suspects they are looking for connections to terrorism or gangs.     
    STERLING:  Caller said she recently received 1/4 of her order in the mail.  She did not have a reserve and  there was no explanation. She paid for the order ahead of time and she still cannot reach anyone on the phone
    EXCHANGING:   Ray/TNT Showtime will send out a Tweet when the RV goes officially. Ray:  If you believe what you have heard over the last 12 months we are definately not where we were last year.
    VEGAS, Vegas, Vegas - Ray: What do you want?  Vegas is an opportunity for resources to get to us. Ever been to an Expo? Walk around and pick up brochures. That's what Vegas is meant to be.  (A chance for you to learn about financial, assett protection and management information) Don't focus on the location.
    CLOSING STATEMENTS:
    PAM:   Wanted to thank you for putting on another hat and stepping up to be here for the TNT Family. Thank everyone, mods, guest mods, transcribers and members who have shown such tremendous love. So, for all  of you to be treated fairly, we will remain.
    RAY:  Thank you all for being here and hanging out and more importantly learning.  No matter what you read or hear about me Pam, Tony, DC, anybody, always ask this important question, "What doe this have to do with me, with my life?  To those of you who want a friend, I will be your best friend.  For those of you who want an enemy I will be that too.  Just watch. . .
    Enjoy your day. Fantabulous Friday.  Will we see it?  Don’t know. Anxiously awaiting every hour to hear what is happening next. How exciting will the next hour, weekend, first part of next week be? Only time will tell.  Till then, in the meantime, wish you well. Have a good day..

TNT CC NOTES, 4 DEC

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RayRen:  Good afternoon, TNT family!  Today is Friday, December 4, 2015.  This is RayRen98 and with Already Blessed we will get this show on the road. It’s RayRen98 here, and we’re going to get right into the business of receiving information – as we hear it. That’s what this site is about, a team of individuals who want to hear the information and then we can put the pieces together. This information is nothing we control or mandate, just what we hear and what we believe based on what we’re hearing. It’s not about what we believe, but what you believe.
Housekeeping first:  we are an information site sharing information from our various sources, and then you apply it to however it affects your life as you go forward.  Some individuals … it’s like walking into a dark room and when you turn on the light, you see roaches scatter everywhere.  They like to work in the dark, sight unseen, and some people do that as well.  They hide under internet names, not letting you know who they are – they work in the darkness, going about what moves them. They are targeting myself and Already Blessed, with their allegations and accusations, jjust throwing stuff out there firuging it won’t come back at them because they are hiding out in the dark.  The light will come on sooner or later!  No matter what they throw out about me and Pam, about Tony or DC, whatever you hear or read, ask this: How does it affect me and what I will do?  They say Tony is a liar, or I am lying, but how does that affect you?  Your aim is to exchange your currency and move on with your life.  How does our information affect that?  Look at what you have been told or have read, over the past weeks or months… did it not come to pass? The striking thing is that it’s not something we created or that we plan to do, but what others told us, and we shared it.  Does it make sense?  If so, believe it and do what you need to do accordingly.  Otherwise, kick it to the curb!  As for the roaches, sooner or later the l ight will be turned on and they will be exposed.
There is a new site, because there is a new sheriff in town and so things have changed.  Go to www.tntshowtime.com, or go to tntsuperfantastic.com and click on the  link.  Everything will be the same, and you just have to get used to me – but not for too much longer.
Let’s get into today’s information that we are happy to share with you.  From my sources in Iraq, they say the RV has begun and is in the system.  The lower denominations are being distributed in some regions, especially Kurdistan. That excites me!
In Canada, people saw information on the screens yesterday and people are making appointments to take advantage of that.  Banks are starting to call people in, so Canadians have something to look forward to.  We are moving along together, probably at about the same speed.
In the US, members are talking to managers, and they are being received graciously and being told they can exchange their various currencies when the time is right. Several members are experiencing that first-hand.  Other members went to their banks this morning and noticed lots more security at the front entrance.  When they ask what is going on, the security folks just say they are ‘hanging around’, but what banks are spending money to have new security hang around?  The writing is on the wall, and it’s evident that things are moving.  Other banks are making appointments for people for the first part of next week – I know what I think that’s for.  We have heard that private exchanges have been happening this week, and I believe that.
The most exciting information to date is a memo that we heard went out the banks with specific instructions. We did some research, and YES that memo hit some banks yesterday evening.  Some people saw that it came in but couldn’t read it, and some people could read it.  The information we were told was:
“The Fed, FDIC and the UST released the dinar to be exchanged immediately.”
That’s the intel I have to share with you today from abroad, from up North and from the US. The green light is on everywhere, and everyone is upbeat and excited.  We are in that time and season;  are you ready to walk in that season?
Let’s do a few Q and A that will assist you further on the journey to true financial freedom…
617 caller: We’re very grateful for all you are doing for us, and those who don’t like it can stay the hell off this line.  I have one question.  There were questions on the forum about who pays taxes on gifts of currency.  The person with the currency pays the tax, right?  [The whole point of giving currency BEFORE the RV is so that the giver doesn’t have to pay gift tax on over $14,000.  After the RV, the currency will be worth more!]
RayRen:  The person who makes the exchange pays the tax.  We can find out for sure by calling 1-800-829-1040.  When you call them, they will answer the phone saying, “Welcome to the IRS; can I help you?”  Ask your question and we’ll get the answer staright from the horse’s mouth.  Ask their employee number so you can refer back to them if you run into a disagreement down the road.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
432 caller:  Was Tony close to the violence in San Bernardino?
RayRen:  No.  We are praying for the victims, their families and survivors.
410 caller:  A question that keeps coming is “Will there be an 800 number?”  I find it a challenge finding any 800 numbers right now – you get trapped in their voicemail system.  If we have a special number, that would be very good.  I hope it will, so that we can get through easily, quickly and be done with this, which I think they want.
RayRen:  If those banks give us an 800 number to give to you, we will send it out in the most expedient ways possible:  tweets, forum posts, whatever we can do.  The banks will be glad to receive you.  In your area, check the banks that exchange foreign currency. That will be your base to start from if we don’t have numbers to give you.  If we send out that the RV is here, you will already be ready to go, if you have those numbers ahead of time.  [All the banks list their 800 numbers AND which branches do foreign exchange.  Check their websites – the info is there and it’s very straightforward.]
Caller:  I called one bank, and the guy said they will exchange at all banks, but I don’t believe that.  Ask which is the main bank that exchanges foreign currency in your area. [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
312 caller:  I’m fantabulous, too.  [This is one of the OM ladies.]  So the IMF and UST are releasing the dinar – at the new rate?
RayRen:  Yes, I agree with that assumption – at the new rate.
Caller:  I was on certain news sites and then Abadi sent a tweet saying that they are not asking for any ground troops.  I assume that the US isn’t sending troops, so who does want to send troops? And will this affect the process?
RayRen:  If this memo holds true that the banks received yesterday evening, and it says ‘immediately’, I don’t think that will affect the banks here. Of course, this went to the US banks, and I don’t think the Canadian banks will have received it.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
941 caller:  When you’re the sheriff and there are so many cockroaches, have you called for backup?  Sometimes it is beneficial to let them be aware of what’s going on so they can be ready with the bug spray.
RayRen:  No backup needed;  we just turn the lights on and they scatter.
Caller:  How is it looking for us  right now?
RayRen:  It’s looking GREAT.  I’m waiting to see what the banks are doing with that memo;  just sit back and enjoy the ride.  You be ready for your drive!
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
352 caller:  I was reading Randy K, and he said this would come out 1;1, and it won’t go up to $3+ for over a hundred days.  He blames President Obama for everything, and says  the President is controlling the Iraqis. He’s also says that if anyone says they have exchanged, they are lying.
RayRen: That’s his choice as to what he believes or doesn’t believe.  If he chooses not to believe anyone has done an exchange, that’s his choice.  I have talked to people who have exchanged, and they have no reason not to tell me the truth. They have told me their rates, and we’ve heard that more than once. Various people have let us know that they have exchanged, and it’s okay if others choose not to believe that.
Caller:  You don’t have to explain where you are coming from. If they don’t agree with what you say, they don’t have to listen to the call!
RayRen:  My message wasn’t to them, it was to the those listening to them.  They will scream and shout from wherever they can get attention.  I don’t care who has anything to say;  you the listener has to determine how that is affecting what you are trying to do.  If not, you can decide you don’t have time for them.  I don’t in any case, I’m just trying to talk to those who might listen to those people.  When it doesn’t make sense, people won’t listen to it.
Caller:  [garbled, something about groups]
RayRen: When envy, spite and jealousy are to the fore, they will continue to bleat whether we talk about groups or not.  It’s bigger than the issue of groups.
423:  Ray, welcome to the spotlight.  I want to comment on the guy on the last call who sent in 2K to Sterling and got nothing back.  Well, I received one-fourth of my order through the mail.  It was dinar I’d paid for beforehand, not reserves.  If one is going to get an irrevocable trust, without kids, how do you seek out someone to use as a trustee?
RayRen:  Choose whomever you trust to work with you for the rest of your life.  The trust will be based on the Indenture – the instructions – and those will prevail for as long as you live, or the trustee lives.  You don’t have to have a younger person, it’s what the Board decides, including who they decided Successor Trustee will be.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
954 caller:  Anything else on caps or taxes?
RayRen:  We haven’t heard anything new on caps or official about taxes.
716 caller:  You’ve already answered about the 800 numbers.  Please relay my good wishes to Tony. Will you send out a tweet when it’s time?
Caller:  I don’t get tweets but my niece does and she will be the phone tree. [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
707 caller: Thanks for being there;  most of my questions have been answered.  I take it you haven’t received any instructions yet?
RayRen:  We anxiously await those instructions.
Caller:  My local WF does exchange foreign currency, and I have enough to get their attention, I think, if I can get a foot in the door. Any suggestions?
RayRen:  Just go in and ask to speak whomever is handling these things.
Caller:  I spoke to someone a few weeks ago and he gave me the  name of his boss in the main office, so I’ll give that a shot.  It’s comforting to know that you and Pam and the team are continuing this program. [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
808 caller:  This is my first time on the call!  [Appreciation]  My questions were all answered, thanks to your team.  Merry Christmas and Aloha!
601 caller:  Exciting to hear about that memo to the banks – that’s significant! What about Maliki?  Have you heard anything?
RayRen:  I haven’t heard anything, so we’ll have to wait and see about his future.
281 caller:  I’m blessed – and you?  Quick question as everything is falling into place – timeframe?  Within the next 3-7 days for this to come through?
RayRen:  If this memo is true and accurately, then ‘immediately’ is significant to me.  Immediately to me doesn’t mean a week down the road!  To me it means NOW.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Blessings on you guys… and Hawaii!
301 caller:  Any other news from Iraq about timing?
RayRen:  I’m happy it’s in the system, lower denoms being distributed, and coupled with that memo, it’s HALLELUJAH DAY!
Caller:  I’m packed and waiting like everyone else.  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
954 caller:  I’m concerned about background checks.  I was arrested 30 years ago…
RAyRen:  If you are connected with gangs or terrorists, they will not be happy,  Otherwise, you will pass their background checks with flying colors.   Are you still wanted?  If not, you served your time, you’re an asset to the community, and it’s all in the past, so don’t worry.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  I’m here and waiting on you all!
RayRen:  I was in Vegas last weekend – I would have had you buy me dinner!  I look forward to meeting you next time.
951 caller:  I don’t want to sound negative but this sounds a lot like last year.
RayRen:  When you listen to the information and see what’s taken place, if you believe in what you’ve heard in the last 12 months, we are definitely not where we were last year!
Caller:  I received an email saying Okie has landed – know anything about that?
RayRen:  He has his own sources, so I’m excited about that.
Caller:  According to everything, it sounds like the window is still open.  Any timeline?
RayRen:  Nothing specific, they won’t disclose that information, but we are in the process and just need more patience.
Speaking of Vegas, it’s more than an opportunity for us to meet each other in person.  The things we are looking for, we can ask others to provide that, whether information or other support.  You want CPAs, wealth managers, investment counselors, and everyone asks me for those contacts. What better place than to get together and let them find us, see what they have to offer. We don’t have to buy anything.  It will be like a business expo with lots of resources. Vegas is not about gambling or whatever, it’s about a golden opportunity to receive great content.  That might give you a different perspective.
We are out of time and I don’t want to overwork the transcribers.  Pam?
Pam:  Thanks, Ray, for putting on another hat and stepping up for the TNT family.  I know we will all cross that finish line together.  Thanks to mods, guest mods, transcribers and members;  we will remain TNT strong.
RayRen:  Thank you all for being here with us, hanging out and learning.  No matter what you hear or read – about me, Pam, Tony, DC, anybody – always ask, “What does that have to do with what I’m trying to do in my life?”  If the answer is ‘nothing’, that’s all the weight you need to put on it.
Thank you everyone – enjoy your weekend and Fantabulous Friday!  I’m waiting to hear what exciting things we are waitingfor this weekend.   We wish you well!   Thanks and have a good day!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 4 DEC

12-4-2015   Intel Guru Frank26    DRS's [Dr. Shabibi's] plan for the MR [Monetary Reform] steps...Of which he has selected a FLOAT...IMO...should be CONTROLLED in order to stop the 2% margin when DRS feels he is ready to CAP the GROWTH.  IMO...A year or more.  BUT TEAMS have told me the GROWTH from .40 to 1.00 will be very very fast...the TIME GROWTH from 1 to 3 or 4...It looks faster than we thought.

12-4-2015  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG
   [We saw the exchange rate go to 1182, many said that was for the 2 percent, MD [Guru Millionday] says it was for cost of living/ inflation and was a requirement. People all day have said that the 2 percent deal has to go for 90 days. Are all of these things falling into the same category or different issues.]  When the timing is right - they will "magically" be within the required range - and will have been for the required length of time...that is MHO.

12-4-2015   Intel Guru Frank26   
TEAMS ARE TELLING YOU...THAT THE ISIS LEADERS ARE DISAPPEARING.  YOU MEAN THEY ARE ESCAPING...NO I DON'T.  ...THEN YOU MEAN THEY ARE RUNNING...NO I DON'T.  HMMMM...THEN YOU MUST MEAN THEY ARE COWARDLY RETREATING...NO I DON'T. OKAY I GIVE UP SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING?  JUST AS I TOLD YOU...THEY ARE DISAPPEARING. IT'S NOT A MAGIC ACT...THEY ARE HONESTLY DISAPPEARING INTO THIN AIR.  IS IT BY OUR MILITARY ACTIONS?  WELL LET'S JUST SAY THAT IT RARELY RAINS IN IRAQ MAYBE ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS BUT MY GOD IS IT EVER RAINING FIRE AND BRIMSTONE TO THE EVIL THAT HAS NO MORALS NOR MENTALITY.  ALL OF 2015 THAT OUR AMERICAN TROOPS ARE BACK IN IRAQ BY THE THOUSANDS AND HAVE SECURED EVERYTHING WITH THE FINALITY OF MOSUL AND RAMADI NOW COMING ABOUT.  TAKE NOTE THAT IT IS THEIR LEADERS THAT ARE DISAPPEARING. IN A FEW DAYS YOU WILL LEARN THAT THESE TWO CITIES ARE BACK IN ABADI'S CONTROL.

TNT :IKO AND ELMER, MEMBERS MORNING CHAT DEC 4 BY OKROCKS , 4 DEC

    • okrocks said
      05:49 AM Dec 4, 2015
    Iko Ward wrote Dong moved 1108 points last night
        
    Iko Ward wrote Dinar dropped to 1077 for 10 minutes then reset to 1166. Dong dropped 1108 points last night before resetting. Rumor is TRN's are now live world wide. EURO market continues to slide. Lots of smaller trades now going on for gold.

    shane wrote IKO that is a great move as long as it was up in value

    buddydog wrote Forex back to 1166
    *Why? Does that even make sense? its changed on the CBI and on the UN site so what is up with it still always bouncing back to that number on Forex, hmm? Somebody is having fun

    the eye guy wrote you know, if the fed jacks the interest rate up, it will be great for us post RV

    Iko Ward wrote Fine...Bruce and Art say it's done. I have not heard on my end yet. So lets say its 66.66666% fact and 33.33333% rumor.

    cloudwalker wrote Between "rumor," "done, done, done," "imminent," and "soon," we're all going to be pretty touchy about certain words in the dictionary from now on.
      NO KIDDING! LOL 

    Iko Ward wrote Lets start a new trend. Now. This Minute. Done.
      
    BADSCOTT54 wrote Bruce on his call last night spoke on the TRN he said they had attempted to release them the other and they went live everywhere but Bangkok or Beijing and that glitch has been fixed and they are prepared to go worldwide now from what I understood him to say

    Iko Ward wrote Boy, France is taking a nose-dive this morning.

    BADSCOTT54 wrote We are standing on the brink of the most awesome blessing in history and we won't give a second thought to any of those words as a matter we may have a smile when we hear them as a remembrance of when    
      
    Iko Ward wrote Bad...there ya go...poop eating grins all around.

    REMEMBER THOUGH ASSEST BACKED DOESNT HAVE TO MEAN GOLD BACKED PER SE, ASSESTS CAN BE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS
    Iko Ward wrote I am being told that in order to be asset backed, no matter who is saying it, Gold has to be at it's new price of 450-600 per ounce, so we're a little ways off from that. They may want us to be asset backed, but it will take time.

    GJHHonor wrote Iko does it not mean if the TRN's are out that would be mean asset backed ???
         
    Iko Ward wrote GJH...that is one of the theories but I'm being told it's not like flipping a switch. As we have all seen none of this happens overnight. But the TRN's going live worldwide is a big step not only for asset backed reasons but also RV.
         
    BADSCOTT54 wrote IKO didn't the IMF make changes to their rule on what is considered to be an asset for the value of a countries currency. I remember reading that they are now allowing other natural resources of a country to be asset for the value of it's currency. Everyone is just use to gold being the main one
          
    Iko Ward wroteYeah, even brain power (education level) is figured into the mix. So it's not just gold and oil and minerals.

    Iko Ward wrote The simplest statement is now that China is in the SDR Reserve basket everything has to move forward or the world economy will be in turmoil. Even the bad guys don't want that.
      
    rene5555 wrote IKO: Your thoughts on whether or not IQD is floating and may have RI'd in Iraq???

    Iko Ward wrote rene...I don't have any direct contacts in Iraq. Tony and Ray are the most informed on internal Iraq stuff IMO. But what I can say is the rest of the planet appears to be acting as if that is so. The big financial players are acting like the RV is live but they are waiting for the rates to climb just like us.
         
    Iko Ward wrote I do believe as we go toward an asset backed currency we will see all kinds of funds "magically" appear. There are folks out there that truly believe we have no gold, just gold plated tungsten bars.

    BADSCOTT54 wrote It is my understanding it will probably do as Kuwait did come out at the rate it was before it was devalued, float up high and float down to what the international rate will be stable at
       
    Iko Ward wrote Rene, Badscott...there's your mousetrap.
       
    tbucknor wrote Frank26 says: Article 8 applied, RI first, float to match one dollar, then RV.   

    BADSCOTT54 wrote IKO I believe within all my being that these rates are going to be more than we could ever imagine and me and my house are prepared to be blessed!!!

    HERE ARE A BIT MORE SNIPPETS.....

    Iko Ward wrote France was down 4.23%, now up .02%. Can you say "volatile"? Sure you can.
         
    elmerf123456 wrote Oil prices fell on Friday after sources said OPEC had agreed to roll over its policy of maintaining crude production in order to retain market share and raise its output ceiling. Internationally traded Brent was down 91 cents, or 2.1 percent, at $42.93 at 9:21 a.m. EDT (1421

    Iko Ward wrote Gold just shot up $20.00 Guess they didn't get the memo, or maybe they did and trying to hedge. that spike means a big player just purchased a lot of metal.

    mangelo wrote Dec 4 A Chinese central bank official said on Friday the inclusion of the yuan into the Special Drawing Rights (SDR) would be a starting point for China's financial reforms. Xing Yujing, director general of the No.2 monetary policy department of the People's Bank of China, told a news conference that yuan's admission into the SDR basket would help improve price discoverability for the currency.
    Xing said China would continue to steadily push forward yuan convertibility under the capital account. The International Monetary Fund admitted China's yuan into its benchmark currency basket on Monday, a victory for Beijing's campaign for recognition as a global economic power. (Reporting By Kevin Yao; Editing by Sam Holmes)


    Iko Ward wrote Crude is also fluctuating this morning. This volatility is all good for us, folks.

    sweetcheeks wrote Iko we thinking days or weeks
         
    Iko Ward wrote Sweet, I'm thinking hours, most likely tonight after all the banks are closed. But then I thought that last week and the week before that
         


    Iko Ward wrote France just bounced back to -.92% Graph starting to look like my grand dads tree saw.

    Iko Ward wrote My fleet watch just posted 3 of those mid-east tankers leaving Galveston.
    ....interesting, none are heading back to middle east.

    (RUMORS I HEARD WAS GOING TO CHINA... BUT IDK)

    Iko Ward wrote The entire planet's in the red except us, of course. Can you say "manipulation"? Sure you can.



    7AM PT Iko Ward wrote Well, crude at 39.80 and falling. Gold at 1180 and climbing. France coming up for air. Darn it I love this job.

    Blackjack7 wrote Mornin Elmer did Okie get the canopy opened
       
    elmerf123456 wrote Blackjack will be on a call with him at 2est

    elmerf123456 wrote Keep Okie in your prayers. He's dealing with a nagging situation that may have a need for immediate surgery. Mentally he's great, physically, some real issues.
         
    gizmosmom wrote Elmer not the shingles right?
         
    elmerf123456 wrote No. Neuro surgeon

    A neurosurgeon is a medical specialist who treats diseases and conditions affecting the nervous system, which includes the brain, the spine and spinal cord, and the peripheral nerves. Neurosurgeons provide non-operative and surgical treatment to patients of all ages.

MARTHA UPDATE, 4 DEC

Russia just took a major devalue in the market for the week. This is what China did this past August to nudge the RV!
Well, China said they wouldn’t do it again, so fellow BRIC nation has taken the charge!
What a great way to bring in the RV!   All in the timing.
Well, let the games begin! Are we seeing the set up for releasing the RV?
The Russian ruble took a major devalue this week. This is exactly what China did in August to jump start the GCR / RV.
Remember what we said, you need to devalue to revalue.
Well, China promised they wouldn’t do this again, although it was a necessary move and was applauded by the IMF (hint, hint).
But, Russia, a BRIC member didn’t say they wouldn’t. Russia has been hit hard in recent months with on and off again sanctions, but Putin is someone to be reckoned with and Russia is a major player and will survive.
So now we see a great way again to slide the GCR /RV and show it to the world – this could be the icing on the cake …so to speak.
DISCLOSURE is another game changer. We are now seeing more arrests – one in particular caught my eye involving Indonesia and Goldman Sachs, which is a family driven banking engine that has the worse derivative base and has been involved in too many shady deals to count.
On last night’s Big Call, again few things came to light. One is that an issue with Hong Kong banking may have been resolved sooner than next week.
The private group I am following was told ” no later than Wednesday and, they also mention maybe into this weekend.
Are we now MARKET DRIVEN? If so, by Sunday night, you may see a true explosion.
The sixth of December was mentioned by another site.
Also, for general info, the 6th of December is the start of Chanukah, the festival of LIGHTS!
Martha

S3A : EXOGEN UPDATE, 4 DEC

EXOGEN: Markets | Thu Dec 3, 2015 10:06pm EST
Related: CURRENCIES, MARKETS
China yuan’s entry into SDR basket is starting point for financial reforms-PBOC
BEIJING
Dec 4 A Chinese central bank official said on Friday the inclusion of the yuan into the Special Drawing Rights (SDR) would be a starting point for China’s financial reforms.
Xing Yujing, director general of the No.2 monetary policy department of the People’s Bank of China, told a news conference that yuan’s admission into the SDR basket would help improve price discoverability for the currency.
Xing said China would continue to steadily push forward yuan convertibility under the capital account.
The International Monetary Fund admitted China’s yuan into its benchmark currency basket on Monday, a victory for Beijing’s campaign for recognition as a global economic power. (Reporting By Kevin Yao; Editing by Sam Holmes)
Read more at Reuters: LINK

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 4 DEC

Iko Ward :   Dong moved 1108 points last night
Iko Ward:  Dinar dropped to 1077 for 10 minutes then reset to 1166. Dong dropped 1108 points last night before resetting. Rumor is TRN’s are now live world wide. EURO market continues to slide. Lots of smaller trades now going on for gold.
BSquared:  I hate the word “rumor”.
Iko Ward: Fine…Bruce and Art say it’s done. I have not heard on my end yet. So klets say its 66.66666% fact and 33.33333% rumor.
Cloudwalker:  Between “rumor,” “done, done, done,” “imminent,” and “soon,” we’re all going to be pretty touchy about certain words in the dictionary from now on.
Iko Ward:  My pet peeve is “HUGE”…. Lets start a new trend. Now. This Minute. Done.
Mioze:  Iko… now you typing!
BadScott54:  We are standing on the brink of the most awesome blessing in history and we won’t give a second thought to any of those words as a matter we may have a smile when we hear them as a remembrance of when
RXsales:  We just need Oz to push the bottom.. Until then I feel we only can gather about 70% Facts / 30% Rumor.. Those are still pretty positive odds, just not enough to bank on yet.. It’s time to get it done, we’re all more than ready and prepared .. Let’s go today!!!!
IkoWard:  I am being told that in order to be asset backed, no matter who is saying it, Gold has to be at it’s new price of 450-600 per ounce, so we’re a little ways off from that. They may want us to be asset backed, but it will take time.
BadScott54:  Bruce on his call last night spoke on the TRN he said they had attempted to release them the other and they went live everywhere but Bangkok or Beijing and that glitch has been fixed and they are prepared to go worldwide now from what I understood him to say
GFHonor:  Iko does it not mean if the TRN’s are out that would be mean asset backed ???
Iko Ward:  GJH…that is one of the theories but I’m being told it’s not like flipping a switch. As we have all seen none of this happens overnight. But the TRN’s going live worldwide is a big step not only for asset backed reasons but also RV.
Rene5555:  Good Morning IKO!!! Any verification that IQD is floating?? Is this true and if so that would mean an RI in Iraq??
Iko Ward:  rene…I don’t have any direct contacts in Iraq. Tony and Ray are the most informed on internal Iraq stuff IMO. But what I can say is the rest of the planet appears to be acting as if that is so. The big financial players are acting like the RV is live, but they are waiting for the rates to climb just like us.
BadScott54:  IKO didn’t the IMF make changes to their rule on what is considered to be an asset for the value of a countries currency. I remember reading that they are now allowing other natural resources of a country to be asset for the value of it’s currency. Everyone is just use to gold being the main stepl
Iko Ward:  Yeah, even brain power (education level) is figured into the mix. So it’s not just gold and oil and minerals.
Iko Ward:  The simplest statement is now that China is in the SDR Reserve basket everything has to move forward or the world economy will be in turmoil. Even the bad guys don’t want that.
BadScott54:  IKO I felt Bruce was delighted about the TRN are now going live worldwide. I believe it is DONE
BadScott54:  rene5555 I have read POPPY3 and a couple of the other gurus be pretty adamant about the dinar going to float. They said a float would not in any way be advantageous for their economy… i’m sorry that the dinar is not going to float  IMO
Rene5555:  Badscott54: I heard that too but I also thought this may happen for a very short time and then stabilize
Tbucknor:  Frank26 says: Article 8 applied, RI first, float to match one dollar, then RV.
BadScott54:  It is my understanding it will probably do as Kuwait did come out at the rate it was before it was devalued, float up high and float down to what the international rate will be stable at
Oldmanriver: Doesn’t an RI bring it back to $3.22?
Tbucknor:  No, RI means it is international again, rate notwithstanding.
Snoopy:  Per intl agreement with kuwait….dinar has to come out equal to kuwait plus 20% for inflation…..
Tbucknor:  True, snoopy, but it isn’t ‘out’ yet.
Snoopy:  kuwait 3.28 plus 20 percent 3.93 around the magic 4.00 range….I can live with that…
Shane:   IKO we’ve heard in the past that with the US government holding 4 trillion Plus with the American citizens old will be put in the treasury and used to back in the US dollar that’s why we were being asked to put in separate accounts what’s your feeling on this
Iko Ward:  Shane, I just don’t trust those statements anymore. I do believe as we go toward an asset backed currency we will see all kinds of funds “magically” appear. There are folks out there that truly believe we have no gold, just gold plated tungsten bars.
Turkeyhntr:  Iko, my only concern is that no one has even seen inside the Ft. Knox bldg since the early 70’s. who knows!
BadScott54:  IKO I believe within all my being that these rates are going to be more than we could ever imagine and me and my house are prepared to be blessed!!!

Highlights From “The Big Call” Thursday Night 12-3-15, 4 DEC

Thursday Night 12-03-2015 – Recording Link and Replay #’s 
Playback number: (605) 562-3198, access code 123456#
 
91 Minutes
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Highlights From “The Big Call” Thursday Night 12-3-15
Mangelo:  Bruce call: just patiently waiting and we are going to have a great call with all the excitement that is going on
Ploganea:  Bruce: Talking about helping others.
Plogena:  Bruce: Intel, we are really close. Trying to take all info in and sort it out to get agreement
LBJ:  Bruce said TRNs are live now or will be later this evening.
Ploganea:  Bruce: TRN were not live in Hong Kong but live other places around the world. Why, for a reason? For whatever reason, that was taken care of. Believe that TRNs are live. Rates high, adjustments were made, all rates are loaded in.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: everything is at the banks and all set to go
Ploganea:  Bruce: We may be all set and ready to go. Believes we are getting down to the wire. Bank have gotten direction and are ready to go.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: everything is getting down to the wire and getting information that it is ready to go
Ploganea:  Bruce: Knows that many are at the end of their rope. Advises to try to hang on and keep your currency.
Ploganea:  Bruce: All indications are that things are very, very close for us.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: hang on don’t sell your currency just stay in it a bit longer….I don’t know how the notification will come out yet
Ploganea:  Bruce: Time frame – Plan is that we will get 800 numbers. When they are received they will be put on the site under banking, including Canadian info if they get numbers for them.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: I know that the 800#’s will come out, we also [ut out the Canadian #’s also on our website…we will post rates…we are not allowed to post that
Ploganea:  Bruce: C Legarde is in Calgary in a meeting. The meeting should be over about now. We may or may not have an announcement after the meeting.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: CL is in Calgary Canada we may or may not have announcement on TRN’s
Ploganea:  Bruce: We only get a portion of what is going on. Usually just the main thrust of what is happening not details. Can’t talk about some of the stuff, too sensitive for a call.
Ploganea: Bruce: Expecting good things to occur very, very quickly.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: we can’t get into some information that we can’t talk about…but we are expecting things to happen
Mangelo: Bruce call: Q & A starting
Ploganea:  Bruce: Q & A now: first caller, Heard there was a 3 day holiday this weekend. What is the purpose? Is it for the RV? Bruce: Doesn’t know. But Iraqi’s are in a celebratory mood
Ploganea:  Bruce: Q: Do you think this will happen when ForEx goes down on Friday PM?
Bruce: Said we are seeing movement but it may not reflect the rate changes immediately.
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: do you think it will happen when the forex closes on Friday? it may not reflect he actual rate when this happens
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller asked if you can elaborate on whether the Internet group gets to go first? Bruce: We are trying to figure out if the Internet group is considered a group in the eyes of the PTB. We don’t have the answer yet.
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: do you think we will be going at the same time has everyone else or first….trying to figure that out
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller chatting. Caller heard about having an LLC. Is it of benefit if you have an Limited Liability Company. Bruce discussed the benefits of doing a business through an LLC which is more for a business rather than a trust.
Mangelo: Bruce caller: asking about llc, that’s for business than a trust, control everything and own nothing
Ploganea:  Bruce: Advises to control everything but control nothing. The WM will help. Remember to learn not just rely on the WM or advisor. Are we looking good for the weekend? Bruce: Looking really good.
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: asking about Okie landing…and that his canopy is stuck…but help is on it’s way
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller heard that Okie mentioned that plane landed but canopy is stuck. Bruce heard as well. Bruce explains that Okie is our patriarch. He is a very caring and giving man. He is a pilot so his info is all about flying.
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller asked if Bruce would interpret what Okie said. Bruce said that everything appears to be done. Just stuck on a few things that needs to be done but he talked to Okie today and thinks Okie is about to climb out of plane and head to the terminal.
Ploganea: Bruce: The caller asked about the CBI. Bruce said that Iraq has done everything they needed to do. They need to be international. Now it is just a matter or revealing what is on the bank screens already
Ploganea:  Bruce: We think timing is really close. Could hear tonight, tomorrow or weekend
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Mangelo:  Bruce caller: guys we know the timing is very close we just needed the trns live every where and it has happen
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: are you looking for this to happen this week..
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BJ: Bruce: looking for this week – still on through Friday
Ploganea:  Bruce: Bruce is looking for the RV this week. Bruce thinks thru Friday.
BJ:  Bruce: praise report re: cancer from caller – he talked to Okie & said he would fix the equipment so he wouldn’t get shot down; enjoyed Okie
Mangelo:  Bruce call: talking about getting healthy
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller asked if TRN are live does that mean we are now asset  backed. Bruce: Yes
BJ:  Bruce: caller asks if out of town is a problem for her like a different state. Bruce said take currency with her
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller asked if we are out of town when RV happens, could that be a problem. Bruce: Said if you are gone for 2 or 3 days, take it with you but you can exchange in a different state.
BJ:  Bruce: all currencies are in basket and we’re ready for it
Mangelo:  bruce caller: if the RV happens tonight and we are in another state, could you exchange in another state yes! and all the currencies are in the Bsket … yes
Ploganea:  Bruce: Question about Zim. If there is a cap, can you go to 2 different banks?
Bruce: Said that I don’t believe there is a cap. Wait and see what happens. You may be able to split the Zim exchange at different banks.
BJ:  Bruce: banks would like for us to leave a large % of funds with them and we can negotiate decent rates
Ploganea:  Bruce: RE Zim: Normally do all exchange at one bank. May be best. Caller asked will they require that your leave a large percentage at the bank. Bruce: Banks will want you to and you may be able to negotiate a good interest rate if you keep a good amount for years. Pick a bank you don’t mind leaving money in. Then shop around.
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: would these banks what you to leave them some money,,,, yes they would, they would give you a better % rate…you don’t have to leave everything there
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller if I can negotiate a low tax rate at exchange, how would that be good if it is after. Bruce: Can’t really answer tax questions.
BJ:  Bruce: caller asking about tax break after rv; Bruce isn’t sure there will be tax event but can’t really say
BJ:  Bruce: caller asking about afghani currency and Bruce doesn’t know the currency well enough and doesn’t know how they will treat the Zim
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller said that last week you said Zim may go but what about Afgani? All denoms good? Bruce: Said he doesn’t know about Afghani. He doesn’t know about their denoms. Said that someone exchanged Afgani but doesn’t know the denoms they had.
Plogaea:  Bruce: Given the events that happened, are certain bank groups still good? Bruce: Said WF group still intact and solid.
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: is the Wells group still okay …yes
BJ:  Bruce: caller – asking about a float; Bruce: when rates come out they will be high and stable for 5-6 days and then they will float +/-
Plogaea:  Bruce: Caller keeps hearing different things. They are talking about a float now. Do you agree with that? Bruce: Said when rates come out, supposed to be high and stable for a few days after may slip downward.
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: rates a good and solid right now
BJ: Bruce caller – how can we find rates before going in? Bruce: – look online at various sites or just call for appts. – shouldn’t wait around
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller said that she heard rates may come out at .40 to 1.00. Bruce: We don’t really know until they come out but have heard stable and solid when they come out Caller: Where do we check rate since no one can post and Forex may be later. Bruce: Check on blogs. Otherwise ask when you call for appointment. In his opinion, don’t wait around.
Ploganea: Bruce: Caller said heard that there could be sucker rates. Bruce: We’ve already had the sucker rates. Unless you have a relationship and bank calls you, you need to set an appointment. If they look good, exchange. Caller: Because so late in the year, is it wise to exchange part now, part in 2016?
BJ:  Bruce caller: bc it’s so late in the year would it be wise to exchange part this year and part in January; Bruce – not a good strategy
Ploganea: Bruce: Asked if Zim 10, 50, 20 Trillion still good? Bruce: Yes, should be good.
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller asked when the banks are called in is that in the US? Bruce: Yes may be some banks or exchange centers.
BJ: Bruce: NC caller will all currencies go at once? Bruce says all but rial
Ploganea:  Bruce: Caller asked once I do my exchange, can I go with my son and his wife even though we have different currency?
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: are married couples suppose to in together… they want them too
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: my concerns who is going to get the 800#’s …we thought it was to go out to 2 or 3 people when we find them we will put them on our site
BJ:  Bruce caller: asking who is getting 800#s; Bruce: 3 people confirmed and will pass them out online and Bruce will put them on his website, theBigCall.net
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: line 38 we use the term exchange
BJ: Bruce caller: fincen form? Bruce: use it to EXCHANGE and check the line for CURRENCY EXCHANGE bc of taxes
Mangelo:  Bruce caller: on the fincin form line 38 make sure it says exchange
BJ:  Bruce caller: asking about taxes and cap; Bruce doesn’t think there will be a cap or that it will be an issue
BJ:Bruce done with callers; people antsy and hopes it will go as quickly as it appears; will stay prayerful about it and ready; info was light today but picked up tonight; can’t call it bc of too many reasons for delays; banks frustrated
Mangelo:  Bruce call: all the information is looking very good tonight, to many things going on to why it didn’t happen yet …but it’s going to happen
BJ:  Bruce is in 11th yr just behind Okie; 6 yrs ago if he knew more he would have done things differently; keeping the plates spinning; this will happen; Iraq’s plans are incredible
Mangelo:  Bruce call: we know this will happen…the plans they have plan for Iraq, we are standing in Faith and it’s going to happen
Mangelo:  Bruce call: Bruce is ending the call… Kent closing the call with prayer
Mangelo:  Bruce call:wrap up…we didn’t get our celebration call tonight but have a great weekend