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Wednesday, December 2, 2015

TNT : TONY'S CLIFF NOTES, 2 DEC

Highlights of the TNTDinar conference call.  Updated as the call progresses.

 Pam stated that due to a 10 year old MLM case that Tony has addressed many times he is not with us today. She said, "We are moving on."
Ray:  Tony is fine.  He is feeling Super Fantastic. . . The case had nothing to do with us. With foreign currency or TNT Dinar.  It is totally separate.  The case has now taken a reach, where I feel it should not have.  

This has all been about a plan.  A man had to lead it and put his neck out.  It is a plan that surpasses any individual.  We have been working as a collaborative team ever since this came out.  We have a team of people that you all anxiously wait to hear . . . The team is still intact.  Until such time as we all have what we want or what we are looking for we will be here Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

The case Tony is involved in and how it affects us:  Wiley Morgan is a person who is claiming that TNT is a scam and scamming people.  I don't know how.  They are trying to win a case and use it.  Just as they have sent erroneous information to this prosecutor and he believed it.  Wiley Morgan and his band of henchmen have sent emails to this prosecutor claiming Dinar scam.  You can send a letter to prosecutor, attorney, judge whoever you want too and let the chips fall where they may.  The truth will come to light.  We have many individuals now stepping forth and sharing they have exchanged. . . Every day that goes past more and more people are coming to the forefront.
In answer to a caller question, Pam said yes, this is part of the same group that has been harassing Tony and TNT for the last several years.
To send an email to Federal Prosecutor:  scott.rask@usdoj.gov  and/or  Tom_Bartee@fd.org
It does not have to be just about the dinar being a scam.  You can say what Tony has done for you or whatever you want to say.  For a hand written letter the address will be in the TNT Forum.
Ray:  Let the truth be told.  Let the light shine.  Make sure the people have the right information.
On TNT Forum nothing changes.  Everything continues on.  Twitter and calls continue with Ray.

TODAY'S INTEL UP TO WITHIN LAST 30 MINUTES: 

Ray:  Bank contacts say they cannot see the rate but there is a lot of movement within the banking systems, moving employees around.  Like a helter skelter process going on with people being moved.  Exchanges going on.  Banks saying this week and that is from a bank memo.  Some preparing for next week.  Some folks have appointments on Monday and today.  . . being told to bring their currency with them.

CURRENT WINDOW:   Ray:  Everyone has agreed to let it go but with an undisclosed time frame. . .Looking forward to a Tweet before the regular call on Friday but it moves. . . We're here, just don't know when.
IRAQ:   Lower denoms are being released in various parts of the country. Iraq contacts are saying any minute.
  • CBI  web site rate has changed. Caller said from 1164 to 1180.    
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INTERNATIONAL:    
  • Canada - ZIM seems to be live there and exchangeable.   Caller:  If Dinar foundation for the currencies how can the ZIM be live in Canada.  Ray:  I don't know. . . if the bank calls and says I can exchange ZIM I will run right down.  I don't care how.  A lot of this RV/GCR stuff is supposed to be already done.  Bits and pieces coming out.  NOt saying it's full scale everywhere in Canada exchanging.  Same as in US.  Here and there people exchanging.  Someone called into OM last night saying they exchanged two months ago.
  • Rates    
UNITED STATES:     
  • Sterling:  Ray said the currency you paid for is your property and you can petition the court to release it.  
  • Banks:    Ray said banks who are exchanging are working from their own private databases.
  • Meet and Greets will still take place at various locations as previously planned.          
EXCHANGING:    If we don't get 800#'s be prepared with a Plan B.  Call the banks now asking about any currency, but Dinar, so they don't hang up on you.   You will make a contact and know what bank is handling foreign currency in your area.

CLOSING STATEMENTS:

RAY:  The team is still intact.  We were a team to begin with.  The spokesperson has changed.  You will still hear what you've been hearing and receive what you have been receiving.  If there is a need to do it before Friday we will do that.  Nothing has changed for you.  Everything stays the same.  Tweets go out the same.  Site is still rolling.  Everything stays the same.  
PAM:  Want to Thank You for stepping up and leading the charge forward so we can continue to move forward.  Ask everyone to do as Tony has always done and that is "take the high road."  Non-mmebers can access at TNT dinar.com and in the forum in the blast section.
RAY:  No matter what you hear . . . read ask two questions.  One       Two      Whatever someone is throwing out there, allegations, the whole 9 yards, ask what does it have to do with what your trying to do, and the currency?
As far as when am I going to see it Wednesday there is no telling.  I can wait it out.  How about you?  If we need to we will be back on Friday.

I have to go to a dental appointment and will update for accuracy the closing statements in a couple of hours.
Per a mod's request to consider the courts  I have only used Ray's name in all titles, etc.
I know Tony will be in your prayers as he is in mine.  VEGAS!    VEGAS!    VEGAS!

TNT CC NOTES, 2 DEC

Replay 605.562.3179, PIN CODE 409029#

Pam:  I’m ready to rock.  Did you get the text I sent you a little while ago?
RayRen:  Yes and no;  it’s all good.  Everything is working, let’s put the recording on.
Pam:  We are doing things a little differently today, bear with us.
RayRen:  Good afternoon, TNT!  Today is Wednesday, December 2, 2015.  This is RayRen98 and with Already Blessed we will get this show on the road. We’ve always threatened to do this if Tony and DC couldn’t, and that I would tell All.
Pam: I realize that most people don’t understand what’s going on in Dinarland, I will give a brief synopsis.  Due to a ten-year-old MLM court case, tony has agreed not to be on any more TNT calls.  We all came together to be as educated as possible and help the public understand the timelines and all that is involved. This is a voluntary site, and you’re listening to this because you want to, under freedom of speech and freedom of the press.  I think it’s despicable so many are kicking Tony at this time.  If you are not helping the situation, get out of the way.  We are helping everyone get across the finish line as best we can.  If you want to discuss Tony’s situation, do it elsewhere.
RayRen:  Thanks for that  personal point of view.  The official view for TNT is that I am going to be the voice of TNT, a new man in the captain’s chair. Tony won’t be with us.  If you have seen or heard about the court case, you know it has nothing to do with TNT or foreign currency; it’s totally separate, and that is why Pam is not going to talk about the case.  However, the case has now reached somewhere I think it should not have, but that explains the absence of Tony.  Make sure you identify with what Pam just shared with you,a nd the essence of TNT:  it’s about a plan, not a man.  A man had to say it, but the whole focus is about a plan, knowledge and education that surpasses any individual. We’ve been working as a collaborative team since TNT came out.  Tony couldn’t possibly do all that, and there is a team bringing you information, and that team is still intact.  That will still be forthcoming until you no longer need that to hang on and keep hoping.  Until it’s over, we will still have a call Monday, Wednesday and Friday.  The only thing different is a different man gathering the information and bringing it to you.
We have a person – Lolly Morgan?  Who have been emailing and writing the prosecutor caliming that TNT is scamming people somehow.  Prosecutors love to take stuff like that run with it.  It’s called character assassination. I’m sure Morgan and his team are listening now.  They sent erroneous information to the prosecutor as the case was wrapping up, and part of the agreement was that Tony would not talk about dianr, and that is what TNT is all about.  Just as Morgan sent emails making these claims of ‘dinar scams’, you can also send emails or letters letting them know how you feel about this being a ‘dinar scam’ and let the chips fall where they may. The truth will come to light, and it already is.  Many individuals are coming forward to say they are exchanging dong, rupiah and even dinar.  It is real;  it is not a scam.  So if you feel it is not a scam, you can also sent a letter or an email, and here’s an address: Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov.  He’s only hearing one side of people launching a campaign.  All those following this information know that there is no scam, and people are coming forward to substantiate this.  If it were a scam, they would not be exchanging their currencies for US dollars.
We will put this in the forum, so you can write and let them know they are dealing with one-sided information saying this is a ‘scam’ and an attack on Tony. Let the light sign; lle the truth be told. Put pen to paper and do what is just and necessary so that these people can have the right information.
I’ve taken over, and all the information will be similar in grade and caliber.  The tweets will be the same.  We are working with the same people as for the last few years, not someone new to the scene.  It was Tony’s job to do the speaking and now I have the job and we will continue until the RV happens.  Pam is still here, the mods are here, and TNT is still here.
Pam:  Can I call you an idiot?  Can I send you texts?
RayRen:  There will be a change there!  It’s a challenge to receive texts while I am on the call.  Just a second.  I have a few texts… hold on.  We are getting to the information because that is what you are here for, but I know there are questions about the situation.  It’s all going to be good.
Pam:  Someone asked if you were going to throw me under the bus…
RayRen:  Not today!  Who knows about tomorrow… <joke.
Pam: This is that email address again:  Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov.  The other side has been saying a lot, so send them what you think they should know about the dinar, etc.
RayRen:  Let the judge and prosecutors know what the real truth is, so that they cannot be swayed in that regard, because it will affect you eventually.  Let the truth be known, especially those who have exchanged.  All we are doing is sharing information.
This is what we have been hearing/receiving, up to 30 minutes ago.  In the US, some of our bank contacts are saying they cannot see the rates, but there is a lot of movement – that this is 80-90% about to blow.  Some banks are moving employees to different locations – what could their reasons be for that?  There could be a number of things.  It’s like a helter-skelter process.  Some exchanges have taken place this week and even today.  The banks are saying ‘this week’, even from a bank memo sent out to some of the banks.  They are preparing for this week, for next week.  Some people have appointments and are being told to bring their currency with them.  We know what they are intending to do, won’t know the results until afterwards.
The governing bodies are in agreement that this can go;  we are just waiting for the moment.  Overseas, the lower denominations have been distributed in some parts of Iraq.  In Canada, we have got confirmations from individuals who have talked to exchange officers.  They are saying the zim is live over there and he can exchange it.  There are multiple reports of exchanges in Canada – your time is coming, Canadians.
Iraqi individuals are expecting this ‘any minute’ – today, tomorrow, first part of next week.  We are very much ‘in the moment’ based on the information being shared with us.  That is about it regarding information right now.   Pam, did I miss anything?
Pam: You were perfect – doing a great job.
RayRen:  That is all the information we can share at this moment, subject to more information coming in.  If there is a need for a call between now and Friday, we will have one, likewise for tweet.  If we haven’t seen it by Friday, we will be here on Friday.  There is a new sheriff in town, and I’ll give a few people the chance to ask questions, but you need to bring it right.  I will not talk about Tony’s case.  Send your letters and emails to the prosecutors about this being a ‘scam’.  But any other general questions, we’ll see if we can move you along.  I’ll start at the top of the list…  301.
301 caller:  Thank you for the introduction.  Has there been any changes as far as giving out the 800 numbers?
RayRen: That is still a mystery to us at the moment.  We haven’t heard definitely either way.  We have trained and given examples so you all should be ready even if no 800 numbers are issued by us.  You should have a  Plan A, Plan B and Plan C, and if not, develop those now.  Check your local banks and who to call for foreign currency exchanges.  Don’t mention dinar, but if they exchange foreign currency, that may well be one of the banks who will do exchanges. Then you will know who to call even if we don’t have 800 numbers, you’ll be ready to go.  Don’t mention the dinar, ask about rupiah, dong, or another currency.  We don’t need to know they exchange dinar right now, but be confident that they will do exchanges when the time comes… as a Plan B.
Caller:  How many zeroes will be taken off the dong?
RayRen:  No zeroes will be taken off the dong, so far as I know.  It will exchange as it is.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  And North Carolina!
432 caller:  I’m with General54’s group – have they gone in?
RayRen:  I don’t know – probably so.
Caller:  We wish Tony the best!  Will you still have the meetings?  Annuities?
RayRen:  Tony is fine.  He is feeling super-fantastic, so not to worry there.  He does appreciate the concern from all of you.  We still intend to have the meet-and-greets as planned.  We have to take it on a day-by-day basis, but everything can have that will be do our advantage, we will have it there.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
405 caller:  So who had been the one stopping this?  We keep hearing it’s ready to go!
RayRen:  It’s hard to get a good answer on that.  We’ll just have to wait and ride it out.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
313 caller:  I’m superfantastic, but we miss Tony!  On the CBI website, the rates have changed a bit.. they are going up.
RayRen:  You’ll hear from Tony again.  As for the CBI website, everything is not always as it appears to be.  There is movement and people are pleased about that.  I’m more focused on bank people being excited, and waiting for them to call me to come on down!
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
770 caller:  IF the currency we hold and the currency that has already been exchanged has the same value, how do the financial institutions decide who to exchange?
RayRen:  The institutions are working from their own database, the list that they have to do the private exchanges and get those out of the way before the public activity commences.  So that does depend on the person, not the currency.
Caller:  How does the bank select who to exchange?  That value inside and outside is still the same, right?  Then it’s down to the financial institution choosing… how does that work apart from the banks just saying “I have the authority to do this?”  [same point again]
RayRen: The best answer I can give you is ‘private vs. public’.  That happens in all walks of life, that some people access higher levels than we do. There is obviously someone going first, the first wave of anything. So long as the rest of us get to do it as well, that is fair.  If the bank is authorized to do some exchanges ahead of schedule, they get to choose who to do it with.  So long as my turn is coming, I’m okay with that.  We are just waiting for the public opening, and that is coming.  We are just waiting for that, until the bank calls us and says we can have our exchanges.  We know the banks called some people in and they attempted to do the exchange and it wouldn’t go through.  There is a combination of what’s going on, and it’s all progress. That is what excites me.  As long as we have progress, we have hope.
Caller:  So sooner or later we will get our turn.
RayRen:  If that changes and our turn will not be a reality, that’s a different situation.  But that is not an issue today.  Good things come to those who wait.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
941 caller:  I think the caller was kind of confused because if X goes in and gets one rate and Y goes in and gets another prices, then the currency doesn’t have the same value.
RayRen:  I think that the rates will be at least the international rates, and so they will all have the same initial value.  Some will go in, walk the walk and talk the talk, and negotiate a higher rate.
Caller:  Is Wally Morgan the same guy who has been harassing TNT all these years?  The one on FB and sending out texts, and so on?
RayRen:  I don’t know 100%, but probably so.  I think he is up to some things that are not in your interests.
Pam:  Yes, it’s a group that has been working together, and some have specialized in certain areas but they all have the same purpose – to cause trouble.
Caller:  I don’t hang out in those areas because they are 99% wrong. [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
602 caller:  I’m sure Tony can handle whatever is being thrown at him. You mentioned that the zim is live in Canada; if dinar is the foundation, how can the zim be live in CA?
RayRen:  I don’t know, but if the bank calls me and says they can exchange on zim, I will hang up right now and run down to the bank. This RV and GCR is supposed to already be done – we are just seeing bits and pieces, not full-scale.
Caller:  The official RV was in April right?  And if it’s out in Canada, it should be in the US as well, right?
RayRen:  It’s no different there than here in the last few months – a few people have been able to exchange.  Someone on my call last night exchanged two months ago!  Things like that happen and we enjoy it when it does.
Caller:  Do you think we will have a call or tweet before Friday?
RayRen:  It moves so much, but I am looking forward to that, based on the information I’m hearing and how the banks are moving… I have a feeling we are there.
Caller:  Another caller said about DC, something about a reconciliation conference in mid-December and we won’t see it until after that.  Have you found any truth to that?
RayRen:  I haven’t seen anything about that yet.  One last caller…
312 caller:  I’m super-fantastic.  My thoughts and prayers are with Tony.  One of the things I have been considering is an issue outside TNT, someone making allegations that this is a scam. I’m sure you’re aware of the case in Georgia with Sterling, where many of us have lost money to Sterling and the prosecutors have refused to release our money because of potential civil suits.  I wish they would start releasing that cash that is still tied up with Sterling because a huge number have money tied up in Sterling, and there will be a continuing problem if they don’t release that money paid for dinar.  Have you heard anything you can share about that?
RayRen:  I haven’t heard anything official.  If they are holding your property, that you paid for, then petition the court to have it released. That’s what I would do at this stage.  If whoever is holding your property won’t release it, petition the court to have them release it.
Caller:  I have sent letters to the court, but the prosecutor went on the offense, saying none of us should have our property released.  If they can be shown this is not a scam, that argument would be void.
RayRen:  A lot of people are in the situation, and we just have to wait.  It will be resolved.
Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
RayRen:  We have reached that time.  It’s been fun but we’ve got to run!  As a recap, the team is still intact because we were a team to begin with, although there was one main spokeperson. Now that spokesperson has changed.  There have been other changes behind the scenes, but you will still get the information and TNT will continue to do what is needed on Friday or before Friday if required.  Everything stays the same:  you will get the tweets as usual, the site is still there, we just won’t have Tony on this call because this call is about the business of foreign currency.
Pam:  Thanks, Ray, for stepping up and leading the charge forward so we can continue to move forward.  Just as we have always done on TNT:  take the high road.  I will add the two email addresses to the TNT Tony Blast section so that nonmembers can access them on www.tntdinar.com.
RayRen: No matter what you hear or read, ask these questions:  1.  What sense does that make?  2.  Does this have to do with what I do with this foreign currency?  The second question is more important than the first.  If it doesn’t affect you, ignore it, and maybe ignore the person who gave it to you.
We are in any minute, any hour, any day expectation.  I intend to wait it out – what about you?  If we need to, we will be back on Friday.  Have a great evening and take care.

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 2 DEC

TNT:

Natok:  Yesterday at 2am during trading, market went to 0 for both China and Hong Kong on the screen, then came back up, someone in here mentioned it, so I looked, it was at 0, and I saw it reset, wierd!

NewCreation:  Highlights from OM this am...1. CBI rates changed for first time in 5 years this am. (the rate is higher than we would like, BUT IT HAS CHANGED) 2. UN rates have changed Poland has had a significant currency rate increase

New Creation:  Iraq declares another 3 day holiday "this week"....Imagine that!:)

Iko Ward:  Forex still below 1080. ISX gaining. CBI active. Millions in the street. Sounds like it's here. They have to start at the top and work down (or up, as it were) The fact that it is active is a big, big deal. Let the poop hit the fan and just stand back a little bit. It's going to be a long day.
LH:  Iko I pray you are correct! Sounds like wonderful news to me.

CoyoteHunter:  GM Shabibi has stated he wanted a long holiday for the release.
OKRocks:  NOT the rate we are looking for but its a start! http://www.cbi.iq/ Currency Code Sell Buy Australian Dollar AUD 858.605 858.175 US dollar USD 1182.000 1180.000

Sundancer:  How long since it has changed like the UN site 5 years?

OKRocks:  yes 5 years

Sundancer:  Oh that is good then at least it is updated now they can start it moving!
JCNC:  You'll notice that it has two rates - buy and sell. They are different. Usually they have been the same. Says to me they are publicly active for buying and selling dollars. What say you IKO?

JCNC: jcnc oh that is a good catch yes that is important they are getting ready to move!  For the float to begin, Iraq would have to first depeg from the US dollar so be able to have SDR drawing rights. Iraq would turn loose of the program rate of 1166

Lilypad:  Could it be that Iraq has deepened from the US dollar and are pegging to the SDR?

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Adept1:  Remember, everyone: (Say) I'm here to exchange these currencies... what are the best public and private rates you can offer me?"

Badscott54:  Expect Your Miracle. Expectation Is Acting As If Your Miracle Has Already Happened. Organize your life around your expected miracle. Plan it. Talk it. Believe it. Expectation qualifies you for receivership. It separates you. It transfers you from the masses who need miracles...to the chosen who receive them. Expectation Is Proof of Faith.

Rrrr:  We truly are what we think… All that we are is a result of what we have thought… If you speak or act with an evil thought, pain follows you… If you speak with a pure thought, happiness follows you, like a shadow that never leaves you… Sooooo Think Good Thoughts…. It’s really that simple Dinarians!

DAVIDM:  MY TNT FRIENDS … GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE! TODAY, *YOU* HAVE WITHIN YOU, THE ABILITY TO DETERMINE IN ADVANCE, HOW *YOUR* DAY WILL END. IF YOU FACE THIS DAY WITH GREAT CHEER, HUMILITY, AND A POSITIVE OUTWARD ATTITUDE … THEN THE DAY CANNOT HELP BUT REFLECT ALL OF THAT BACK TO YOU. GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT A TRY… I DARE YOU!

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Elmerf123456:  Forex dropped 1079.4 at 7:54 AM

Iko Ward:  All the top traders on the ISX last night were banks.

JJF:  Iko - what is the significance of the top traders being banks?

Iko Ward:  It means investors feel the banks will be making money so they are buying in. 36 banks have gone up in the past 2 week

If you listen to main stream media, ISIS controls Iraq and Syria, the markets are all healthy, China joining the reserve basket is no big deal, Yellen's going to raise interest rates soon...it's really gone to the absurd.

Remember the analogy of the trickle in the dam.

Pookie:  It's like watching a theater each time they open the curtains......yet another surprise. Me likes it!

PaulB:  Strange thing this morning. I went to the bank and had some minor business to take care of. Then I asked the teller to please check the value of the vnn and she said it was blank.

Elmerf123456:  “Everyone has inside them a piece of good news. The good news is you don’t know how great you can be! How much you can love!,can accomplish! And what your potential is.” Does your Heart still beat? direct your passion, can you still standup? Then stand Tall, Can you still think? Then direct your thoughts on what's important...Still Believe? Then we hold strong together! Elmer

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 2 DEC

12-2-2015   Newshound Guru OOTW    DURING THE KOBER INSTITUTE INTERVIEW, ABADI WAS ASKED HOW IRAQ COULD EXPAND THEIR ECONOMY IN ORDER TO MEET / REPAY FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS, VIA LOANS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES – AND HE SAID THAT THE PLAN WAS TO IMPLEMENT THE TARIFF'S AND GET THE PRIVATE SECTOR GOING...SO...THE 2016 BUDGET LAW HAS WITHIN IT,  GUIDELINES STATING THAT THE TARIFF'S WILL BE IMPLEMENTED 2016 - WHEN IN 2016 IS ANYONE'S GUESS - BUT STILL, THIS IS VERY GOOD NEWS.

12-2-2015   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
  Article quote:  "He stressed that the central bank «being reviewed in accordance with international standards."   Which means they are working with the CBI to get them into compliance (Article VIII). It does not get really any clearer.  There is no reason not to believe that over the next few months that the CBI will achieve compliance.  The IMF and the world's best financial people will help the CBI.  So despite what we all might think of Allaq, getting the banking system open and the dinar in Article VIII is now a priority. I think we all can agree, for the first time in a long time, Iraq has a clear goal for monetary policy. We just have to wait and watch.  For someone like me who has been in this and watched lots of ups and downs, this is rather exciting.

12-2-2015   Newshound Guru wmawhite   [...does Iraq have to be in Article 8 before they can have an internationally currency?]  Article 8 is the "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval" to the world financial institutions.  There are some Iraqi economists that believe the value of the IQD will need to change in value prior to moving to Article 8.   We shall see.

12-2-2015   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   "new exchange rate from CBI"  [Is this how they are working toward getting within the 2% spread?]   Since 1182 + commission is the new official rate, 1214 market rate is at or about 2%. 

12-2-2015   Newshound Guru wmawhite   [the rate at the cbi has changed...its NOT 1166 anymore. When you least expect it, an in conjunction with the IMF, the CBI makes a move to close the 2% spread between it and "street rate". [See the official CBI rate in the Dinar Guru Resource Bar on the left of this page...]

12-2-2015   Intel Guru Frank26   Dr. Shabibi is ready to show this new number in the middle of December…the 7-10 day could be for distribution across GLOBAL banks with the 1 to 1 by the first quarter of 2016...then by the end of the year (2016) they will be where they want to be...just ahead of Kuwait...at that point they will cap the rate…that is why it won’t be a free float.  It has to be a managed float so they can cap it once they get to the point where they want otherwise with a free float they have to answer to the 2% growth and it would take like 10 years to get to that cap point. IMO when they cap this toward the end of next year I think they will be between 3.86 and 4.30.  Parliament is back on the 8th of December, will the rate be affected if they don’t vote the budget in...yes if they don’t do the budget and don’t do the taxes and tariffs then this will delay things...we are confident this will happen...  [post 2 of 2]

12-2-2015   Intel Guru Frank26   [via Aggiedad77]   We’ve established that Dr. Shabibi is back at the helm...Dr. Shabibi wants this to happen at the beginning of a year or the middle of a year...he said give me a long weekend...they will be gone on holiday starting Wednesday night...all Thursday...all Friday...all Saturday...maybe even Sunday.  Is this timing...yes...it is the perfect storm for the RI...the RI...has nothing to do with numbers...it is a qualification of their country to be introduced into an international market...that is why the IQD is not traded right now, because of the locked program rate...no sanctions left to be filled...all ar

IKO WARD UPDATE, 2 DEC

IKO WARD IN CHAT 12-2-15 8 AM: Forex below 1080. ISX UP. Markets stable. Gold holding. Crude holding. CBI ACTIVE. IMF standing down. Info package with 800's projected. What's not to like?
They have to start at the top and work down (or up, as it were) The fact that it is active is a big, big deal. Let the poop hit the fan and just stand back a little bit. It's going to be a long day.

KTFA DESSERT CC NOTES, 2 DEC

Aggiedad77:   Hello Family here are the Dessert notes from tonight’s Bible Study CC….enjoy      Aloha  Randy

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CC Notes 12-01-2015
Frank you have the floor.
Frank26:  One of the things we told you a week ago yesterday Family was, as we closed, I asked, did you enjoy your conference call…..good….because now I want you to pay attention….next week you will see the Amnesty Law….it is the next in the procession of laws…..that are being released,
We know which are being released, why they are coming out at the combination and singularity of each one…..today Walkingstick posted the article that the Amnesty Law was out.
Put this in your notes…..that happened fast….faster than we expected.
Put this in your notes too, everything in Iraq is moving fast, when the sun sets it happens right away….even those who walk in Iraq appear to do so as though they are being fast forwarded….reminds me of Star Trek….where do we go now Capt. Kirk….I don’t know….that way, warp 3….then the image of the Enterprise stretches on the screen as it is bent in light as it moves forward….it travels at the speed of light….there is much bending of light in Iraq these days.
We were very impressed to see the Amnesty Law come out as quickly as it did.
This may sound negative especially for a weak individual who hasn’t been studying…..we are wired to not study, go back to your grade school, high school, college it is often difficult to get yourself to study. We have security to the point where the RI into the RV can happen in December into January….we are happy and confident.
What did Dr. Shabibi…..he wants LD’s….no….he wants 50k’s and 100k’s….no……he wants a 3-4 day weekend….no….he wants his 2 front teeth…..no….he wants security…..it remains hot in Iraq…security…..
There are J-Tac right now that are targeting two places…..Ramadi and Mosel…..in fact the Sec. of Defense Ashton Carter came out today saying we are sending specialized forces to confront Iraq…..our goal is to demolish ISIS until the last piece of Iraq is cleaned…..good job Ashton Carter…but there are thousands of troops doing this in Iraq…..but Carter has finally been given the go-ahead to speak and that tells me and my teams the RI/RV is very close…..very close.
Today the British Prime Minister Cameron announced today we will be sending special troops to Iraq…..but the former PM was blamed for sending troops to Iraq and run out of town.
For Cameron to say we are sending forces to kick ISIS out……yes we are a part of the new International Coalition…..we are in the basket yes….I suppose Iraq is going to join that basket, but that has nothing to do with this..…..to me for this man to say this….to announce this…..says me are very close…very close.
But Frank you just said that Ramadi and Mosel are an issue…..yes they are because the Sec. of Defense has come out and says so…..but Frank how can you say this when it isn’t out in the news yet….trust me I can say it.
The foreign fighters with ISIS are getting mad…..why….they are being assigned mundane task….guard hills and such….but we are fighters….we aren’t babysitters…..we could leave and fight against you.
By the way Family Baghdadi did leave Iraq….they look for him now…..they have always been looking for him….you will read about this later I am sure…..there’s been a reassignment….we are going to take care of it now…..two or three weeks ago Abadi asked the US….can you get rid of Maliki…..that is your job….well can you do it for us….I’m asking……but that we will be seen as infidels….no I will ask you to do it for us…for Iraq….ok, yes we can do it…..in fact we might get two for one.
Write this down….23,000 ISIS and DAASH soldiers have been killed in Iraq….good for the Iraqi army…..in fact last week the Iraqi army cut off the supply lines to ISIS….that is why they took down the security walls in Baghdad……
Just last week Abadi is moving through one of the checkpoints going into the capital area of Baghdad….he asks his driver to stop and he gets out to greet the troops at the checkpoint….he salutes them….impressive….he is becoming a leader of their people….for the nation…..
Baghdad is ready for the rate change…..over 400 tankers from the US in the last week….another thing….Turkey….I just had one last week….don’t make us mad…..you need to tell your government to sit down and shut up….we need no garbage from your politicians….we pay you good money to use your airspace.
J-Tac takes their positions and targets their marks in the next few days….in fact Russia has done their part….even more…..but we aren’t impressed…..Baghdadi isn’t in Iraq…..maybe Syria or Lebanon….it doesn’t matter….the Lone Ranger has his number.
Ashton Carter comes out and says see we got this….he is talking because he has been told he can talk.
We talked a lot about China yesterday……so today I can say….hello China….ring ring….this is China….what’s up….not much….who is calling the world currencies….oh yeah we will be in the basket….why are you calling me currencies of the world…..I thought you were going to bow down to Iraq…..we are….but we wanted to know if you wanted to sit at the head of the G-20…..I don’t have to wait until October 1, 2016….no…..oh ok I’ll sit at the head of the G-20.
The rumors or the scuttlebutt that we talked about yesterday that the streets are talking of change of many things….rate change….articles today even talked of it….rate change…..thanks for bringing this out….hey IMF….what will happen….yes there will be a rate change…..hey CBI….what do you think…..well we have been waiting of the right things to raise the rate…..one article blew my mind….well here in Iraq….we have options here in Iraq….this option has been decided….by Dr. Shabibi….it is called a float, even talked about on 2 Monday night CC’s…..ti’s called a float….40 cents….well then we can see a dollar soon after that….well the CBI says I can do that right away or I can wait….can keep it under my pillow for a while…but you can’t keep it there forever. You know I wanted this at the beginning of the year…..where are we….the end of the year….is the end of the year also the beginning of the year.
President Obama went to a climate change meeting today to study this…..I studied the rate change of the Iraqi dinar today instead….but you aren’t invited.
There are rumors rampant on the internet that say you will write an Executive Order that will prevent me from exchanging my Iraqi dinar….but if my dinar are not in the US you can’t do anything about them can you….no……oh have you also heard that most all US politicians have dinars….and aren’t you a politician….yes…..you wouldn’t want to keep yourself from taking advantage would you.
President Obama didn’t you reinstate of EO-13303 last year….yes I did….I don’t want to lose out….the one that President Bush signed into being…..because we are not going to pay one penny for this war….President Obama mission accomplished…..with….or without you…..congratulations.
Tomorrow Family I have a huge report because many are asking about the Iranian Rial….let’s talk about that in depth tomorrow….at 8:00 pm EST….the Business Promo CC…..you were the ones asking fort the Iranian Rial…..it took us three months but we got it for you….
Do you know anything about the Rial…..is Iran under sanctions right now…..if you said they were under sanctions when will they lift the sanctions….if you said no…what will happen on December 31, 2015…..their sanctions will be lifted….you don’t know about the currency swaps between Iran and Russia and China.
These taxes and tariffs were attempted to be put in two times once in 2014 and again in 2015…..but we will talk more on this tomorrow too.
ISIS is melting like an iceberg in the Sahara Desert…..their troops are down to 5,000-10,000…..they have lost 25,000-30,000…..the US has taken out 23,000.
That’s it….but….I feel like a blind man…..all of a sudden a man that I know and trust, Dr. Shabibi is telling me that next month, next year I will be able to see….I don’t know whether to cry, to laugh….I’m in shock….I don’t know what it means to look up or down, I’ll be dizzy….I’m scared…..pray for me that I make the right decisions in my life.
I leave you in peace.

​Tuesday Night 12-01-2015 The Big Call - Recording Link and Replay #'s , 2 DEC

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The Big Call

ARTHUR UPDATE, 2 DEC

It’s probably a good thing that we are so numb to this now so that this highly anticipated and exciting moment is going relatively under the radar.  In all the years prior most people were really hyped excited as we got close to the 1st of the year and a lot of those years it was just unwarranted excitement driven by rumors.
But I am here to tell you, even without referring to the outstanding positive intel I am getting from places that have never been this RV positive before, that EVERYTHING we are seeing at this particular moment in time points toward some positive change in the status quo as we have known it for all these years.
There are many factors too numerous to count that makes this EOY totally different than others, but one thing we know for sure is we have never seen a working, full blown and implemented budget in Iraq because conditions have never been conducive in this factionally divided nation for that to occur until now.
Think back to a few years ago when Shabibi himself said that he would RV the currency if there was the requisite level of economic and security stability.  Now think where we are now.  No more do we here about provinces falling to ISIS and fear of green zone encroachment but just the opposite that they are defeating ISIS at every turn with the help of PTB air strikes. 
We have seen the purchase of major tonnage of gold over the past several months to back the asset back IQD and a systematic diminution of the note count to make way for the LD’s that by all indication are now ready to be distributed. 
And most importantly, we now see the beginning of a special session to finally determine the mechanisms for fair distribution of give and take between the center and the region as well all the entirety of the Iraqi provinces via the HCL agreement that is by all indications embedded within the 2016 budget that has been targeted to be completed in this month of December 2015.  
It is now quite evident that the IMF/UN and other controlling PTB entities including China who is now to have a prominent role in the SDR basket of world currencies which will forever change the international economic landscape as we know itputting new pro RV pressures on the Authors Of The Plan that tell us that the mother of all RV windows has emerged between NOW and Jan 15th of 2016.

The Big Call – Highlights by TNT Members, 2 DEC

The Big Call – Highlights by TNT Members
PinkRoses: Bruce call: Welcoming all to the call.
Mangelo: Bruce call: bruce is saying hello to everyone….I’m in a good mood and you should be in a better mood
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: Prayer request now
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: Intel now
Mangelo: Bruce call: where are we??
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: Where are we? I will tell you I am surprised we dont have it today. AS many of you we have had indications of it going and yet it was stopped. not positive who stopped it. I have an idea. it doesnt matter.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: I am surprise that we didn’t have it today, it was stopped today… it was attempted 7 times
Ponk Roses:  Bruce: it has been attempted 7 times since last Thursday,a nd last night 8th time. ARe we at the place now for it to come through. Only time will tell, but I believe yes. Everything I hear today is pointing to another effort to be made.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: everything I am hearing between the two banks and the Nation from the east …lets do it now
PinkRoses:  Bruce: a meeting between the two major banks, the nation from the east, the decision was made lets do it. lets do it now. What is the definition of now? does it mean now? tonight? we believe it means now. We will see if anything impedes this progress
Mangelo:  Bruce call: every time we are in the window they shut it down
PinkRoses:  Bruce: we believe the time for this to go is now. everytime someone has shut the window. we are not going to need to discuss why or who, but receive the blessing. our indication is they are celebrating in Iraq over the freedom they have now to travel freely in and out of the country
PinkRoses:  Bruce: they are seeing their freedom, the lower Denoms. buying things, tankers loading up to bring oil back to China, over 20 tankers have gone from Houston to China. So what needs to happen for this full RV and GCR to take place so trade agreements to go through.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: everyone in Iraq are happy they can travel all over the country, cards are loaded, people are purchasing, they are happy
PinkRoses:  Bruce: so those trade agreements can go through. UN operational rates were to show today, they are visible today, but not new rates.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: new rates are not released yet,
PinkRoses:  Bruce: where are the rates? not showing today. hearing some things about rates that are very very good. higher than we heard, going up and keep going up. It would be irresponsible for me to put anything out about the rates.
PinkRoses: Bruce: here is the thing. where are we? closer than we ever been. we need this to go through without impediment. the banks are ready. there have been exchanges made even in Canada since Friday. Sort of ones and twoies
Mangelo:  Bruce call: we need this to go through….we are close.. some people exchanging in Canada, we are last!
PinkRoses:  Bruce: point is we are last. But the last shall be first, and the first last. we told you last week we will be last. certain people have made it that way. now certain people need to get this done. China not happy it is not done today. To be happy it needs to be put through without incident.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: some people have made us to be last and the Chinese are upset that this wasn’t done today!
Mangelo:  Bruce call: it’s around the corner…. it needs to go through now
PinkRoses:  Bruce: the rates are high. I was hoping to have celebration call tonight. does not to appear to be the case. but we believe it is around the corner to happen. no i dont want to talk about next year, next february. today Dec 1st, it needs to go thorugh now. lets carry that, and belief for that
Mangelo:  Bruce call: will start Q & A
PinkRoses: Bruce call: Caller: did the IMF say that Dec 1st rv date?  Bruce: the DEc 30, the GCR reset yes
Mangelo:  Bruce call: Rv had to go first then GCR
PinkRoses:  Bruce: the rv itself was to precede the GCR. all the currencies would be adjusted, some up and some down. the main thing the IMF was looking to announce was that China has been added as a reserve currency to the world, and special drawing rights. a primarly about the currency of china,
PinkRoses:  Bruce: we look for the GCR to take place and new rates to show up on the UN operational page.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: the IMF has added the Chinese currency to the reserve currency of the world
PinkRoses: Bruce: realize that something can change to move dates up. this nothing to do with the RV. totally unrelated.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: can the dong go before the dinar?
PinkRoses:  Bruce: no, some things have been said some currency going. that is not the design or plan to happen at all. i would say No. Dong is way over $2.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: in the scenerio this goes live and 800 numbers not release, what would you do? Bruce: when this goes live, the 800 numbers will be released. thorugh the TNT sight, and two other sites, and 3 other people, maybe 3 or 2 other people online that usually do calls.
WE will get the info at some point and put it on our website.
Bruce: just dont think just becuase one person has gone away, the numbers wont be there. shotgun start.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: shot gun start! the two groups at the same time
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: canada exchange. .13 on zim is that rate what we hearing?  Bruce: I dont believe that be a rate we would get here. our rate is quite abit higher than that right now.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: our ZIM rate is much higher than the Canada rate
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: this weighing on my heart. need to pray this in now  … Bruce: yes, that is what we will do, pray this thing in now tonight.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: sterling situtation. i had in my mail, i had one fourth of my order of what I had paid for. no notes.  Bruce: that is too bad that that happened like it did. I dont know what the ins and outs of the whole thing. but some people got burned real bad.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: calling from Canada. how can Canada do some exchanges and US not?
Bruce: remember I said we be last? some exchanges have been taken place, but not wide spread throughout Canada yet.
Mangelo:  Bruce call: just waiting for the green light
PinkRoses:  Bruce: yes. Canada should not go realistically ahead of us. I would say it just seems we are end of the ride and we are the last ones to get out. that what it amounts to. Canada will go throughout the country.
PinkRoses: Bruce: They been testing the system by exchanging some. That what has been going on here.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: was just on OM that Legarde just released and tomorrow it be released…….
Bruce: thank you. I have alot of the same info as you know. this is sort of a consenses this may go down tonight. Just like ARt and Ikoward is indicating the same thing
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: 48 hour background check?  Bruce: I heard same thing today from someone that set up exchange in CAnada about the 48 hours could have been background check. then another was travel related.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: If CL releasing it, that is incredible thing … Bruce: yes we believe IMF will release it
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: Martha had put out some intel regards to the Iran riel, saying it suppose to go tomorrow Dec 2… Bruce: yes it suppose to go 24 48 hours after the dinar. I have not receive confirmation. The rial is depended on the sanctions being removed. I dont know if it is true suppose to go tomorrow
Mangelo:  Bruce: If the riel goes tomorrow or wait till 48 hours after the dinar
PinkRoses:  Bruce: I dont know if the date been changed for the rial. It is more contingent on the sanctions being fully removed. I dont know the effective date of the removal of those sanctions.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller; a friend ready to cash in what he has, desperate… Bruce: I understand, we will believe and hope he will this will take place and he wont have to do that
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: what bank if it goes tomorrow.. BRuce: Barclay bank, HSBC
Mangelo:  Bruce: giving Banks that the person could exchange in the UK
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: last week or two alot of discussion about the 50Knotes. why did they call the 50Knotes?   Bruce: they wanted to reprint it. the 50K dinar was worth very little. They wanted to reprint so they have security on the notes
Bruce: it is meaningless to us. It is a high denomination they can move back and forth to those who can utilize them.
Bruce: they to be used primarly between businesses and banks
Mangelo:  Bruce: 50K notes didn’t have security measures..so they reprinted them
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: will it be a problem for me to go in with someone not really clear to help them, effect my personal exchange?  Bruce; i dont think so. I would go first. If you going to be an assistant to someone, I would make sure you exchange first, and set up appt for you to go in with them.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: NDA signing?   Bruce: some cases require NDA and some would not. the bank rates or market rates not require an NDA
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: the Iran Rial. this not related to the RV. I did hear the sanctions not lifted yet yesterday… Bruce: I heard partially lifted. we have heard the other nations lifted, but we have not lifted them. I think they have been pushed back to Dec 31 to be lifted. Do the research, find out yourself. that is what I am remembering
PinkRoses:  Bruce: just got intel that maybe the IMF is moving along nicely in this exchange process
(AZgirl:  IMF=I might faint)
(Hairdresseer: IMF=incoming money friends)
(AZgirl:  IMF=It’s My Future)
(BigRich: IMF its money freedom)
(Goldenhawk:  IMF – Imminent Money Flood)
PinkRoses: Bruce call: dont understand how people have been able to exchange without international announcement… Bruce: we think certain have called in clients they knew who bought currency from that bank. certain banks had WM customers that had currency, sort of been a vip club. some have been able during testing, but sucker rates.
Mangelo:  Bruce: how can some people exchange and others not with out the international announcements, it’s because they where called in
PinkRoses: Bruce: it is hard to define it. You cant do it, I cant do it, Kent cant do it…Bruce; all we can do is wait, stay in faith for it, and believe it will come through, and it will. We have heard very good things it should go down shortly. that is why i was interrupted by a phone call.
Bruce : we are hearing it is coming,,we just have to pray it in
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: they said the dong behind 48 hours?  Bruce: no, we were talking about the Rial. The rial independant of the dinar, dependant on the sanctions being lifted
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PinkRoses:  Bruce: pay attention to the online blog, Tonys TNT tweet and text and call that will call out i understand by Rayren. If in private group notification by email. We will try to put word out on our website under banking…. Bruce: this will be 800 numbers for the banks, not for private groups.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: not on dinar about Obama in way… Bruce: Obama is not in the way
Bruce: I would say Obama not in the way that would impede us. I know he spoke about global warming. Whatever on recaps, on recaps, dont pay attention to that particular post. From what I understand he not impediment for us
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: he wants to delay this next year to take credit instead of Bush… Bruce: People may think it may come by current administration, but we know different
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: exchange some now and first of year?  Bruce: you can, but hard to say the tax it be. We dont know the tax going to be.
PinkRoses:  Bruce: I concern that it comes out at 3.50, how long the 3.50 be available?  Bruce: the higher rates we expecting will last possible 5 or 6 days, higher rates, higher than 3.50. If want higher rates, move in the first few days.
Mangelo:  Bruce: higher rates will last 5 to 6 days
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: on the green light you talking about, is green light on or off?  Bruce: it was on 7 times since last Thursday. I dont know if it is on now, but I understand it be on tonight and stay on from here on.
Bruce: hope it stay on for exchanges for a long while.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: ZIm, very interesting to me. you think that the prices are higher than we normally told?  Bruce: they are higher than 21 cents. the longer this gone on, the higher the rates have gone up.
Mangelo:  Bruce: the longer that this gone along the rates have gone up
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: I am torn between two opinions on. I heard that everything done exchange as late as over the weekend. now i hearing it going to be a shotgun start, they not going to notify anybody.
Bruce: shotgun start nothing to do with exchange centers. Shotgun approach everyone will be notified. the two work together.
PinkRoses:  Bruce: there are about 3000 exchange locations around the country, most WF. Unless you know what bank exchanging, not want to walk into a bank with currency, Stupid. CAll the 800 number of the bank of your choice
Bruce: i have been preaching this to do it the right way to set an appointment
PinkRoses:  Bruce: pick one you know about unless you in a group. call up, set appt, this is business. not walking in getting change for a twenty dollar bill. this maybe last chance to tell you this. Not going to use regular bank centers.
PinkRoses:  Bruce: some will, some wont, so what. pick a bank, set appt, simple as that.
MAngelo:  Bruce: not all banks will be doing exchanges so use the 800#
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: is it possible that making our appt, we have WF here. making appt 3 days out from the time we get RV announcement, Zim be good to wait?  Bruce: possible. dont gamble on this too much
Bruce: hard to say if it go up or down, we dont know yet when it will show up on the forex. dont assume it be on the forex, it may not, they may hold it back a little bit. 3 days probalby be too late. Im not waiting very long myself. Im not gambling the rates will go higher
Mangelo:  Bruce: is thanking everyone
PinkRoses:  Bruce: We not supposed to be anxious. Kent Pray us out… Bruce: Our plan to have celebration call on Thursday…….CAll is done
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