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Friday, November 20, 2015

Indonesia central bank will 'push' for rupiah-yuan use, 20 NOV

Indonesia central bank will 'push' for rupiah-yuan use

20 Nov 2015 at 15:36

JAKARTA — Indonesia will push for the use of rupiah and yuan for its trade and investment with China, instead of the US dollar, the country's central bank governor said Friday.

"We will facilitate and push for the use of rupiah currency and renminbi because in 2015 renminbi will be part of (International Monetary Fund's) special drawing rights (currencies)," governor Agus Martowardojo told reports.

He also said he welcomed the recent increase in Indonesia's bilateral currency swap agreement with China to US$20 billion from $15 billion.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asean/7 ... h-yuan-use

ELMERF123456 UPDATE, 20 NOV

Elmerf12346:  I just got this text from my mystery man: Across the Pond Plans for lower denominations on fast move now in country. We have a time table and it's very soon is all I can say.

I  haven't heard from my contact in over 3 weeks and he sends me this little nugget. I want to strangle him in the most loving way. Lord let this be so! We stand tall and ready to receive this Blessing.

Searching for Intel is an addiction and a hobby. Unfortunately when your good contact close to the situation is asked to be quiet, so is Intel separation. But in this case all is forgiven. Let's bring it! Lol.

All we need now is our REALITY I'm ready and I know all of you are as well. Let's get this done and call it complete. I patiently await that moment.


Elmer123456:  We have all waited what seems to be a maternity we have been up and we have been down and this indeed has been an emotional struggle for many!

This journey has not been one of a smooth paved road but a rocky one ! In the beginning we heard much and believe everything and then we got wiser and sore more validation of what we seek ! I believe our celebratory days or among us !

Thank you for riding along with all of us as one TNT strong  

Eternity. Maternity for some also Lol… you know that AutoCorrect will hit you anytime you're not looking

Adept1:   Elmer: Push! Push! Push!

Elmerf123456:  Well maybe AutoCorrect is smarter than all of us because if you think about it this is probably very similar to maternity all the pains that we've had the ups and downs and so forth but once we get our RV we will forget about all the pain and all the time it took us to get here

Elmerf123456:  I don't do timelines. I want it now like everyone. If you hold the ticket(currency) you get to go to the show!(exchange) that's what's most important.

TNT CC NOTES, 20 NOV

    • Adept1 said
      11:08 AM Nov 20, 2015
    TNT Call notes 20-November-2015
    Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Friday, November 20, 2015.  [singing I Want to Be A Billionaire…”]  Pam asked for excellent super-fantastic questions for our last call!
    Good morning, good morning, good morning!  I am going to talk to you and answer some questions.  First, I had a very, very good friend whose husband passed away yesterday, so I’m busy doing that today after the call, but I wanted to say THANK YOU to Mike Taylor, first round draft with the Steelers in 1968;  his wife and my wife are best friends.  I will have a busy weekend helping the family, and I wanted to acknowledge the family.
    There is not a lot of information for the call itself. Everyone is still saying GO, it’s green. The banks were called in and told to be ready at 8am this morning, although we are here doing the call.  They are still saying ‘any minute’, and in Iraq they were told the exact same time. They are still planning to hand out the lower denominations and telling their people the procedures. It could still be today. Iraq is planning to pay their government people this Sunday and I hope it will go before then.
    Banks were briefed yesterday to look for an influx of customers throughout the weekend, and told to get them in and out as fast as they can. They were told to send them in one direction if they say ‘cash out’ and another direction if they say “exchange’. Just say you want to exchange your currency;  “what is the rate under IQN and under IQD?”  Then exchange whichever seems best. 
    They did expect it to be already done this morning and no one knows what is holding it up. they are still expecting it, and talking about it in  Iraq.  All the  lower denomination dinar are sitting at the banks waiting to be distributed.  So far as my sources go, they are ready but don’t yet have the lower denominations in their hands.  That comes from the marketplace up to the government in Iraq and Kurdistan.  They have all been briefed but don’t yet have them in their hand.
    There is no bad news.  Everyone is ready;  everyone is on board.  The system was tested again this week. One three-letter agency has the authority to release this to the world. They haven’t done it yet, and I don’t know what they are waiting for.  BE READY so you don’t have to get ready!
    404 caller:  May this be the last pre-RV call!  If it’s one three letter agency that has the authority to release this, does that imply there will be some sort of formal announcement? OR will it just show up and so we have to be sensitive to indicators?
    Tony:  I think it will just show up, and the celebrations and announcement will come after.  The rate is there already, not saying hold or pending, but not processing either.  We will know when it happens, even if the world doesn’t know.
    Caller:  Will you still be given a package to share with us?  Or has that dropped by the wayside and we’ll have to figure it out ourselves?
    Tony:  There hasn’t been anything definitive, so I don’t know if they want to keep us guessing or what. They don’t want the world to know, they want this to stay hidden, and they are smart enough to know that you don’t do that by letting six million people loose into chaos at the banks.  I can’t see them wanting that to happen, so I imagine they will put out some kind of direction.
    Caller:  Are you able to tell us something about the rates?
    Tony:  I would go with the rates I’ve said recently, because there is a lot of mess out there and some people are going crazy.  Even those rates are better than we though they were.
    Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  And Happy Thanksgiving with even more to be thankful for!
    Tony:  Man, let this be the last call so we can enjoy our weekend!
    352 caller:  I didn’t think you would get to me.  I was listening to a Gospel song:  Something Good is About to Happen.  Is that the case?
    Tony:  Everyone I talk to says it is about to happen! Everyone is on alert all around the world, and it could happen any time.
    Caller:  Is there still a time limit on exchanging the zim?
    Tony:  I haven’t seen any update on the zim.  It’s still on the boards. Someone sent some nonsense about that this morning.  I said there were seven currencies on the board, and someone said to me there were nine.  I think  you will get your best benefit within the first 10-15 days.
    Caller:  Someone said this won’t come out until mid-December because that is when the 50K notes will be issued.  Another said it won’t happen until Maliki is arrested.
    Tony:  The 50K notes came out two weeks ago.  And they have been watching Maliki for months, they have arrested his people, taken his plane and palace, found his money… if it’s waiting until Maliki is arrested, why don’t they just walk in and arrest him?  I don’t think they are waiting for that.
    Caller:  I signed up with Gen64’s group, although I won’t be using that group.  Go to the bank and negotiate your own rate.  If the group negotiates one rate, you can maybe do better yourself, and you will get the difference between what they negotiated and what you actually get int hat group.
    Tony:  I don’t know any group that is offering any benefit that’s worth it.  You would have to give your currency to them, and they would give it back at their own rate and timing.  I trust myself to make my own decision, and I want to control my own money.
    Caller:  You don’t know how much of your money that group will be taking. [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
    312 caller:  I do hope this is our last call as well.  [chit chat]  My questions have really been answered as well.  I don’t’ imagine you’ll tell us which nine currencies…
    Tony:  I’m pretty sure you have the major ones covered.
    Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  I’ll see you there!
    281 caller:  I’m doing great, thanks. 
    Tony:  I’m doing super-fantastic!
    Caller:  Christine Lagarde said that the US is holding back the economic reform.  You say we are not holding this back.  So is that for real?  What’s up with that?
    Tony:  The banks are telling me they are waiting for the UST to give them approval.  I know government agencies are telling me that everyone has given approval and they are waiting for another three-letter agency to let the world go.  You choose what to velieve.  This is absolutely done according to everyone.  The word I got from Iraq is that they have given their go-ahead, and I’ve heard the same from our government.
    Caller:  “If any two of you agree on earth as touching anything about the Father in Heaven, it will be done.”  If we all point our tongue in the direction of our destiny, then God can remove any obstacles holding this thing back. We have to be determined and united, of one mind and one accord, and then decree this thing so that God can establish it.  We need to get on the same page.  Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  and I’m going to Maui!
    Tony:  I appreciate that.  There is nothing wrong with the power of prayer.
    954 caller:  Condolences to you.  Is there any word on taxes?
    Tony:  No.  None of my sources have heard anything.  They’re not even talking about it.
    Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  
    623 caller:  This is my first time calling.  Are you sure it’s done, done, done?
    Tony:  I’m just telling you what they tell me.
    Caller:  I know you hearing a lot more than you can tell.  The banks are only going to hear “it’s done” before they stop helping out.
    Tony:  We’ve been through all that.  The banks all quit two years ago, saying they would not call their people in again, but they did call their exchangers and security back in on Monday.  That’s really the only choice they have when they are putting it out that it is done. I had calls from people saying their banks called them for today!  Things are definitely still going on.   I know the banks want to go, and they are sending memos to their people telling them to be ready for any time after 8am Friday morning, and to expect customers over the weekend. They do not have the authority to let this go on a mass scale, but they can send a few people through here and there.
    Caller:  Could the dong go by itself before the dinar?
    Tony:  No, the dinar is the kingpin of the GCR.  The value of the dong changes in response to the value of the dinar as a reserve currency.  It won’t go without the dinar.
    772 caller:  Hello!  You must be above super-fantastic now! 
    Tony:  I’m super-fantastic in the knowledge this should and could go any moment or any  hour.  Today is as good as any other day.  They can let it go;  I just don’t know what is obstructing it.
    Caller:  There are discussion through time of what they may do in reference to letting this go;  what is the best-case scenario for us?  Will there be a short call, a long call, let us have an 800 number?
    Tony:  I would think the best thing would be for them to control the exchange system, letting you know where and when to go to secure exchange locations.  That’s how I would do it.  There are a lot of different scenarios, and I don’t think they would want people attacking the banks because they don’t know where to go or what to do.  I know they are concerned with large gatherings of people.  Not just here but around the world, there could be disruption and chaos.  There was an incident in Africa and in Iraq they are worried that people may rush the banks to get the lower denominations.
    In Iraq, they are ready to go, and they have been briefing their people every afternoon on the television.  I would think it would make more sense for banks in the US to have people come in by appointment and secure locations, and from that point of view, 800 numbers make sense so that they can control the flow of people rather than having them rush all the banks trying to find out what’s happening. 
    Caller:  I would think they’d do it in a way that benefits them.  Wit the information you  have shared, we know more than most.  We can feel confident, pay attention, and make good decisions.  It’s just an exchange, a business transaction. [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  I’d rather go to Raleigh…
    Tony:  Let’s do both!
    281 caller:  So you may not get a notification from the banks, but you might get it from the other places and contacts you know. 
    Tony:  I expect to get notified outside the circles before I get official notification.
    Caller:  With this ready to happen at any second, and they still haven’t given you any instructions, that won’t give you much time – you might have to tell us what you do know, or we will have to go to your sites or to the bank sites.  If  your sites go down, we’ll have to look at your other sites…?
    Tony:  My understanding is that they want to start setting appointments and have people in the banks within two hours.  The only way they can do that is to make announcements and instructions on how to make appointments, because without that, everyone will tell their friends and family and run to that banks.   That will blow up this whole thing!
    Caller:  I don’t want them to have another reason to delay this because not everyone will stay calm and know what to do.
    Tony:  There is a 99.9% chance there will be problems if they don’t give instructions, especially because not everyone listens to these calls.  Most are smarter than that.
    Caller:  I know we are the internet group;  this seems like a slow rollout, and I don’t know if any other groups have gone.  It sounds more like people on the banker’s lists.  Will any of these currencies expire as they delay the RV?
    Tony:  I think they will put out extensions – wait for this to happen, then put out a date.  I wouldn’t wait;  I would exchange within the next ten days.  The best time is here+now.
    Caller:  I have too much zim to use it to wall-paper my bathroom!  I don’t’ care if it’s a penny – I’m tired and I’m ready for this to be over.  I hope to hear today is our day!
    667 caller:  I’m a first-time caller, although I’ve been a dinarian for over ten years.  My mother is in her 80s, and she doesn’t want more information, she just wants to know when to go to the bank. I’ve been looking at other websites, putting the pieces together.  With the 50k notes being out, and the lower denominations at the bank, one guru says that the rate in Iraq ill be 1:1 or maybe 1.16, while in other countries it will be $3.91 or so.  How can Iraq do that, with a higher rate outside the country?
    Tony:  I did explain this on the last caller.  If we exchange our dinar, and the rate is $3.91 per dinar, that is our exchange rate.  In Iraq, it may be 1:1.  Right now, it’s 1166 dinar for one dollar.  If they exchange one dinar for one dollar, it will buy what $3.91 would buy them in dollars.  They are still getting the higher value, like we are in dollars.  That’s how it breaks down for them, 1:1.  Do you understand?  Okay, he’s gone.  Hopefully everyone understands that. 
    301 caller:  Thanks for taking my call.  A while back, someone mentioned about a particular IRA that has lots of extra benefits.  Do you remember that?  [Tony:  Sorry, no.] 
    Also, I remember there was a Virginia 540 number that called in  once, and I just learned my friend has a bank in Fredericksburg that has a DelaRue machine. I’m ready to load my stuff into the van, and I am ready to go!
    Tony:  I am ready, too!
    Caller:  I never heard from the lady who was supposed to tell me how to get the tweets. [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
    Tony:  I don’t know how to do that.  Pam knows about that.  I told her to call you, but she might be too busy.
    Pam:  The instructions on how to follow TNT on Twitter are on the Tony Blast section of our forum at www.tntdinar.com, and you don’t have to be a member to  access that. Send a text to 40404, saying, “follow @THE_TNT_TEAM”.  You should get a text back automatically.  If not, omit the @ and text 40404 again.
    646 caller:  How is Ray?
    Tony:  Ray is fine;  he isn’t hear because he’s traveling.
    Caller:  Let’s hope we can wrap this up and move forward in our lives, uplifting others including the veterans, soon rather than later. [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
    951 caller:  You mentioned a while back that when the GCR happens, the US dollar will take a hit.  Can you talk about that a bit?
    Tony:  It won’t affect us at all because we’ll have a whole lot of money.  For the GCR to work, the top tiers will have to come down a bit while the bottom tiers come up.  The US dollar will come down a little bit, but more like 2-3%. The whole economy is not going to crash, plus the debt will be wiped out and a whole lot us will be putting more money back into the economy.  In six months, that will all be over, in my opinion.
    Caller:  Okay, sounds good.  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
    530 caller:  I’m looking at the fact that everything will happen at one time with a first basket and potentially a second basket.  They have said that China will be in the SDR at a later date. W hen this happens and the dinar goes into the SDR… do we include China?  Or do we have to wait until China is authorized by the IMF to go in there?
    Tony:  I wonder if they will try to drag this out until the end of November when China is voted into the SDR.  However, even if they are voted in, it doesn’t take place until November 2016, so I guess that isn’t what they are waiting for.  I talked to DC, and he says they have already allowed for that, so it’s not part of the plan.
    Caller:  I like your explanation, so let’s get this over with and I’ll see you in Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
    252 caller:  If this is set to go, they  would probably give you a message to let you know you can release the information.  It could be done within seconds if you get an email.
    Tony:  I don’t’ check my email all the time, so if it’s an email, probably not. If they sent me a text message saying it’s live, it would have to be a long text to give instructions.  Then I would have to send you all a tweet with the 800 numbers.  Then you would have it instantly and the phones would blow up!  There are other ways they can give it to me, but however it comes in, I will send out a tweet telling you where to go and who to call.
    Caller:  And you say we should get Clean and Clear Certificates if we want to buy something big?
    Tony: That is just a letter from that bank saying they know where the money came from, that it’s in the bank and not from illegal sources.
    Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  I’ll see you there!
    Tony:  Pam?  She must be off getting some top secret information for you.  I do need her to turn it off because Ray is not here.
    Pam:  I’m here and I’m all set.  Goodbye everybody;  I hope this is it.
    Tony:  Everything is positive.  Iraq is telling them on television what is going on, how this exchange is supposed to work and that they are ready to release the currency.  The lower denominations are at the bank waiting for this release.  The banks here have been told to be ready, to get people in and out as quickly as possible. Everyone is ready to go, and we just don’t know why we haven’t.  I just got a text about hostages being released;  they got the terrorists.  Stay  ready so you don’t have to get ready.  It’s ready, I’m ready, YOU be ready so that we can have a smooth transaction and get on with our lives. To everyone who has helped up in the last five years, in the US, in the government, in the banks, overseas, in Iraq – thank you!  You are the real heroes.  We talk about Tony, Pam, DC and Ray, but you are the true heroes. There are also politicians who are on our side and who have made this possible for us to enjoy – without them, we probably wouldn’t be here.  I would love nothing more than to call you back in the next hour, but if not, we will do a call when it’s appropriate.  Enjoy your day!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 20 NOV

11-20-2015   Newshound Guru rcookie  THE LIQUIDITY OF DINAR CURRENCY IN CIRCULATION FOR TRANSACTIONS IS INADEQUATE...AND ULTIMATE STATED GOAL IS TO REDUCE DEMAND FOR THE DOLLAR WHILE CURBING INFLATION...AND PART OF DELETION ZEROES PROJECT...AND BASICALLY LIQUIDITY MANAGEMENT TOOL.

11-20-2015   Intel Guru SteveI
   Article quote:  "It confirmed the three presidencies, to speed up the passage of the draft budget for fiscal 2016 Act."  Very good news. I ...love the progress! December is looking better and better, but first quarter 2016 is looking awesome as well.

11-20-2015   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article:  "To issue less than 250 dinars coin a new edition for 500 dinars economic plans"  Well it fits with the CBI statement earlier this year of 50, 100, 200 by 2017.  Any new denomination will have Kurdish language now.   ...the reality is only one restriction stands in the way between remaining in Article XIV and achieving Article VIII.    The importance of  "freedom of movement of capital" cannot be stated enough if Iraq wants outside investment.  Abadi is full aware that currency reform is a major hold up to his countries ability to create diverse income.  So in reality, all these recent moves are well in line and very promising that they will do what they say this time.  The alternatives are not good.

11-20-2015   Intel/Newshound Guru Mnt Goat  Eventually the CBI will have to tell the banks to begin launching the lower denominations into circulation.   Article quote:  "A commission of economy and investment plans for new parliamentary Central Bank intends to implement is to issue less cash currency of category 250 dinars, and a new edition to the category of 500 dinars. "  When these lower denominations are launched you can buy your bottle of champagne and put it on ice since it is not long before we, as outside investors, are at the bank.  [post 3 of 3]

11-20-2015   Intel/Newshound Guru Mnt Goat   Article quote:  “CBI had announced earlier issued a new banknote fifty thousand Dinars category in order to complete the Iraqi Securities monetary structure, and the DEVELOPMENT OF HIGH VALUE IN THE TRADING CATEGORY.”  So we see this was the purpose of launching these new 50k notes. The CBI told us themselves.  So at some point in time soon I expect they will hit a point they need and then pop out the new rate...this will be sudden and excepted. This process is NOT a currency FLOAT as many have alluded to will happen. They will simply go from the 1166 rate to a 1:1 rate with the USD. The IMF is now working very closely and monitoring it very closely.   [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

11-20-2015   Intel/Newshound Guru Mnt Goat    As I have said many times...watch for the project to “delete the zeros” and other signs and our RV is close at hand. Now we are witnessing these signs and so the probability of the RV increases as each day passes.  So today’s news is all TERRIFIC and EXCITING!  IRAQ HAS LAUNCHED THE 50K NOTES! HURRAY!  ...this is an excellent sign too that they have in fact launched the project to “delete the zeros” already and the process is now underway once again. We simply have to wait and watch for news of the amounts of the 10k and 25k notes collected. This could take a week maybe a month. But I am hearing it will sooner than later...Because they already collected nearly 80-90% of the 10k and 25 notes. 

Iran sanctions might be lifted in January, 20 NOV

Iran sanctions might be lifted in January

Iran sanctions might be lifted in January

Oil and banking sanctions against Iran might be lifted by mid-January based on the pace at which technicians are removing and mothballing nuclear equipment at the country’s uranium-enrichment facilities.

Iran removed 4,530 centrifuges during the 28 days ending Nov. 15, a rate of 162 machines per day, according to an International Atomic Energy Agency report issued late Wednesday. Based on current work rates, Iran may be able to fulfill its part of the nuclear deal agreed with world powers by Jan. 12, Bloomberg reported.
The July 14 deal agreed with world powers requires Iran to reduce the number of its installed centrifuges – the fast-spinning machines that enrich uranium – to 5,060 from about 19,000. Once IAEA monitors have verified that Iran has met its commitments, oil and banking sanctions will be lifted.
Nuclear monitors have been present during every stage of the removal process, according to two senior diplomats familiar with the IAEA’s role in Iran. The agency is recording the serial number of every machine that is being removed to ensure nothing goes missing, they said, asking not to be identified in exchange for discussing details of the work.
Before sanctions are removed, Iran also has to eliminate about 8,000 kilograms (17,600 pounds) of enriched uranium, either by exporting it to another country or diluting it with inert material. The core of a heavy-water reactor in Arak also has to be disabled.

Agreements on Arak reactor

Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) Chief Ali Akbar Salehi announced on Thursday that the document on redesigning Iran’s Arak heavy water rector has been signed by all parties to the nuclear agreement, and the grounds are now set for implementation of the accord, Tasnim News Agency reported.
“We were informed today that all foreign ministers of the six countries in the (nuclear) negotiations as well as the European Union Foreign Policy Chief have signed the document on redesigning and modernizing the Arak heavy water reactor,” Salehi said on Thursday, adding that the document has been officially adopted.
As per the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), the other side was supposed to guarantee its cooperation on the reconfiguration of Arak reactor, Salehi noted, adding that the guarantee has now been given.
Since the document has been signed by six countries as well as the EU representative, it has high political, legal, and international credit, the Iranian nuclear chief stated.
He further noted that the sextet has declared that they will cooperate with Iran in redesigning the reactor and providing the required equipment, as well as in different phases of the project.
“We have simultaneously started our negotiations with China at the trade level, and we hope that all the required grounds will be provided for the full implementation of the JCPOA by December 15,” he added.

TNT CHAT WITH ELMERF113456 & IKO WARD, 20 NOV

Elmerf123456:  Folks the good news is there isn't bad news. The pain for most is the wait. We have seen such an enormous transition in this process when things go quite it tests ones resolve. Quiet in this case is a wonderful thing because there is so little to do….. You know more than most. Trust and embrace the wait. Smile all!

Understand that the country of Iraq has invested deeply and has undergone an amazing change to be able to be a part of the world stage. You are a part of their plans and will enjoy the fruits of their labor. The Future is so bright and the good news the future is now!

When you look at blueprints and renderings like the new planned Central Bank of Iraq, new development in Basra, new Airports, Grand Faw Ports/largest and most modern in the Region, and of course the Largest New City Bismayah,

keep in mind the planning of these take a long time.

Elmerf123456:  So they know the direction and we are sitting right in the Modernization of their efforts. World Class and open for Business on the world stage. Your investment isn't in vain.

A wise man once said: what the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve! Control your Thoughts and Emotions and you will ordain your Destiny!

Two things! The Button isn't lost nor is our RV. That's all we should need to know! I remain patient, purposeful, poised, and soon prosperous!.

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JDbaby :   Is it true a three letter agency is holding this up. If so which one?
    
Elmerf123456 :   I know who's running it also and yes we best not go there. The good news is money is power and that unmentioned has the funds which will bring us the first three letters of the word funds.

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ChampagneLife:  if the rates are on the screen, there's no pending, no date, why can't we go? what's the hold up?

Turkeyhunter:  champagne, you should know that that kind of info will not be given out even though there are many opinions of why its held up. we have no control over this investment and we can only wait patiently and enjoy the fruits of it when it does become public. just be ready and have plans made.

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Iko Ward:  for the past six weeks it seems to me the markets and all the indicating agencies line up to make it happen over the weekend but the great hand of the PTB comes in and stops it.

Progress is made in the big back rooms and progress is also made in the public marina but not the critical mass we need for individual exchanges.

My one wish for all is that we not take this on a personal level, that we not see it as some grand rescue. That makes us a victim and we give all our power away.

Bamaltc:  IKO thanks. And thanks for pointing us to the Forex chart. From a high level, it does show the trend....

TotallyBlessed:  Iko you are SO RIGHT. We made a wise investment taking only what we could afford to lose and believing that someday it would be something for ourselves and our kids, grandkids and generations to come. No victims here.

Gtov725 :  Iko - Do you think it will ever reach us?     
   
Iko Ward :   Gtov, of course it will, and it may even reach us tonight. Waiting is the name of the game now; frustration the dominant thing.

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Uenvoy:  Here is my good morning report: Gold is at $1081 per ounce, Silver @ $14.17 , Dow is @ 161.62 and the IQD is floating has been sense Aug 15th. and is now 1112 -$ forex is showing 1086.2 so we are moving in the right direction.

once this thing goes, and we are at the banks, gold is going to shoot up,, because everyone will be buying a little bit of it. or allot of it…….Hoping for this Weekend to get the 800#$ so we all can be at the bank.

G8way2k:  Uenvoy So you don't think we'll see an Rv until gold hits $350

Uenvoy:  g8way2k>> no I think the RV will be first, but dont rush to exhange the Dinar, wait a few days on that currency,, Zim, Dong, Rupiah exchange as soon as you can.. the only way I will rush to the bank with my dinar is if it is about $4

TNT :BRUCE CALL THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2015, INTEL PART ONLY, 20 NOV

LADY:
Bruce call - Kent is getting excited.... Bruce said that's a big deal.
BJ
Bruce: Chinese happy; activities out west rolling like supposed to; exchanges at reduced rate in Germany
Bruce: each country has different rates
Bruce: exchanges in New York and Las Vegas but not at moment
Bruce: wait on your group so you can take advantage of what group has to offer

Bruce: some people will be able to help you on the big call after the rv

Bruce: we'll be forward thinking

Bruce: every country has signed off; Philippines was last

Bruce: clarifying that he never said dinar coming out at $1

CHAMPAGNE:

Bruce: invest wisely, so you can give wisely
Bruce: everything is ready, everything is in place
Bruce: we are looking at a timing issue

PINKROSES :

Bruce call: We are still hanging on and waiting for the time for this to go. I am feeling very good what I am hearing. Hope you guys still feeling good as I am.

Bruce call: chit chatting with Kent about a friend who sent an email with little bit of intel.

Bruce call: what we have heard since Tues call, most of which is good. Highly expectant for this to go down at almost any moment. We do believe everything is done, complete. Iraq part done and over. They do have their key cards charged up and are spending

Bruce call: They have LD are out, dont know if all the salaries been paid. We know the Chinese have been happy for awhile and continue to be happy for everything to come out. Activities out west moving nicely and rolling as it suppose to.

Bruce: some exchanges in Germany at a reduce rate in dinar because every country have a separate rate based on the IMF based on their participance they have in the Iraq war, coalition. Determine by monetary, boots on ground, etc.

Bruce: Rate determine on their participance on the war. Told no groups going on at the moment we are told. IF you are part of a group and many of you are, let that notification come to you which could take 24 to 48 hours to roll out.

Bruce: I dont expect that in terms with emails as WF group. I feel we will have a shotgun approach as well as the internet group. Some maybe tempted to take off and go, but going to be wise if part of a group is to wait for the group and follow instructions in email and take advantage what the group will offer. Don’t ask me anymore about groups. They are private.

Bruce call: Some of you are part of groups, some are not. All be taken care of. You have an opportunity to many concern of trust and structure, dont have those set up before hand. Go in and expect to meet the people that will help you set up your structures. Get with the Wealth managers, private banking groups, work with the attorneys and cpa at least initially to get started
Bruce: then you can get your own people. If you dont have all that stuff set up, and 90 percent of us dont, dont sweat it. You will be able to take your time to do that as you learn.

Bruce call: You will be wise if you can learn all the aspects of this new found wealth, everything going to be yours. Wise to learn what you can about investments with your advisors. They will be able to read you quickly how far you are with the investment game. They will do their best to help you learn. They will have seminars for you to learn.
Bruce call: We will have such. WE plan not going any where, and plan to have calls to help you.

Bruce: WE can make a difference in so many ways
Bruce call: rates still quite good, they are fine.
Bruce call: Kent going to read email of intel info.
Bruce call: Kent: Everything single mandate requested by IMF, world bank, and UN have been delivered on. AML law done. Budget and deficient, salary, and ? done. CBI oversight and monitoring panel agreed with IMF done. Person put it out is Arcookie (?). Bruce don’t know who that is.

Bruce: everything is ready, in place. Last nation to sign off with the IMF is the Philippines. EVery country has signed off. WE are waiting for the perfect timing for this to drop in. We can feel good for this ride to come to an end, to exchange and start new life shortly.

Bruce: I was informed on Tonys call somebody from area 919, brought in that I had said that dinar coming out at a dollar. I think the caller was greatly mistaken. I have never said that the dinar coming out at a dollar. To clarify this. We love tnt and good work going there. That is not my opinion and didn’t say it, whoever that caller is get it from someone else that said i said it

Bruce call: literally we could have it any moment. We need to continue to be patient. Thought we would have a celebration call tonite, could still have one tonite. My opinion we are looking at a timing issue. When it is a good time for this to drop in.
Bruce: That is where we are. You can feel confident, blessed, highly expectant for this to come through

Bruce: thank you everybody. I am excited where we are. I am looking for this to be over after over 10 years myself and move on to the next phrase
Bruce:  Whatever time you have been involve in this, we are going to look back on this and say WOW, that was something else. What a ride! What did I learn about patience, helping other people? This is a test. It didn’t come easy. That is okay. We are building character, patience.

Bruce: It is a huge blessing. Until the manifestation of the blessing be on our plan A and continue to trust
Bruce: trust we don’t lose our investments, and give foolishly. remember 4 little things: 1) lose no money 2) grow the money 3) protect the money 4) be in position to give the money to help others

Bruce: I going to put some in a fund and as it grows I can give more each quarter. That is a gift that keeps on giving, an endowment fund. we want to do this continuously. tithing.
Bruce: grow the money so you can continue to give it. every quarter you know how much you earn. okay how much we spend. how much can we give? oh that much. Let’s figure it out how much we can give not to erode the principle. think in terms of giving it.

Bruce: thank you for coming in on call, looking forward hopefully a celebration call next Tuesday. Watch your emails just in case. Kent: pray call out.
NOTE: Mangelo had a presentation to do, and we missed Mangelo being with us tonite. Thanks to Lady, BJ, and Champagne for helping with transcribe, hugs 

S3A CHAT UPDATE , 20 NOV

THIS IS WHAT THE ARTICLE REALLY MEANS
Basically this post means Iraq is removing additional NOTES from circulation, and it also means the Lower Denoms are now officially on the “MOVE” for release and circulation.
On the flip side of this article it also means the 10 and 25k notes we hold as investors may become worthless or currency dealers will have to start USA note replacement process like they did the 50 notes a few months ago.
This article lets us know that there MUST be a rate adjustment taking place IN COUNTRY, otherwise you would have to carry around truckloads of currency to purchase things and the LD’s will require an adjusted AND higher exchange rate in order to replace the other notes.
IMHO this is the closest thing to an announcement we will get of an RI or an RV
This is a VERY Big Announcement from Iraq
FINANCE COMMITTEE: CENTRAL BANK TO WITHDRAW 10,000 AND 25,000 NOTES      
November 17, 2015
Our economy / Baghdad
Detection of the Finance Committee member Abdul Qader Mohammed, Tuesday, for the withdrawal of 25 thousand dinars compared to the category of the new category issued by the Central Bank, as he emphasized that the issuance of the fifty thousand category will make it easier to deal in Iraqi dinars at home to reduce the trend towards the dollar.
Mohammed said: Pentecostal group that issued by the Central Bank does not have any negative impact on fiscal policy in Iraq.
He stressed that the Iraqi currency dealing will be closer to deal private dollars for businesses which use large amounts of money where it is most dealing in Iraqi dinars existence of 50 thousand class.
He added that the issuance of this category will make it easier to deal in Iraqi dinars to be at home in the biggest turnout of the dollar, which have an impact on reducing the trend towards last.
He disclosed that a new class is issued by the central bank in return will withdraw the class 25 000 or 10 000.
Little, the central bank announced in November 201 511 for issuing banknotes category 50 000 dinars dimensions of 65 mm width, 156 mm length and predominantly light brown except Framework decorations that took bold color were printed using the superior quality of the printing paper with A number of security and the technical marks.

MNT. GOAT UPDATE, 20 NOV

As I have said many times…watch for the project to “delete the zeros” and other signs and our RV is close at hand. Now we are witnessing these signs and so the probability of the RV increases as each day passes.
So today’s news is all TERRIFIC and EXCITING!  IRAQ HAS LAUNCHED THE 50K NOTES! HURRAY! This is an excellent sign too that they have in fact launched the project to “delete the zeros” already and the process is now underway once again.
We simply have to wait and watch for news of the amounts of the 10k and 25k notes collected. This could take a week maybe a month. But I am hearing it will sooner than later…Because they already collected nearly 80-90% of the 10k and 25 notes.
Article quote: “CBI had announced earlier issued a new banknote fifty thousand Dinars category in order to complete the Iraqi Securities monetary structure, and the DEVELOPMENT OF HIGH VALUE IN THE TRADING CATEGORY.
So we see this was the purpose of launching these new 50k notes. The CBI told us themselves.  So at some point in time soon I expect they will hit a point they need and then pop out the new rate...this will be sudden and excepted.
This process is NOT a currency FLOAT as many have alluded to will happen. They will simply go from the 1166 rate to a 1:1 rate with the USD. The IMF is now working very closely and monitoring it very closely.
Eventually the CBI will have to tell the banks to begin launching the lower denominations into circulation.
Article quote:  “A commission of economy and investment plans for new parliamentary Central Bank intends to implement is to issue less cash currency of category 250 dinars, and a new edition to the category of 500 dinars.
When these lower denominations are launched you can buy your bottle of champagne and put it on ice since it is not long before we, as outside investors, are at the bank.

Highlights From The Big call: 11-19-15, 20 NOV

Highlights From The Big call: 11-19-15
Pinkroses:  Bruce call: call starting
Pinkroses:  Bruce call: We are still hanging on and waiting for the time for this to go. I am feeling very good what I am hearing. Hope you guys still feeling good as I am.
LadyB22: Bruce call – Kent is getting excited…. Bruce said that’s a big deal.
LadyB22:  Bruce call – the email Kent is looking for is part of the reason he is excited. They will stop the Bible lesson to read it to us.
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: Intel overview
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: what we have heard since Tues call, most of which is good. Highly expectant for this to go down at almost any moment. We do believe everything is done, complete. Iraq part done and over. They do have their key cards charged up and are spending
Pinkroses: Bruce call: They LD’s are out, dont know if all the salaries been paid. We know the Chinese have been happy for a while and continue to be happy for everything to come out. Activities out west moving nicely and rolling as it supposed to.
BJ:  Bruce: Chinese happy; activities out west rolling like supposed to; exchanges at reduced rate in Germany
Pinkroses:  Bruce: some exchanges in Germany at a reduced rate in dinar because every country have a separate rate based on the IMF based on their participance they have in the Iraq war, coalition. Determine by monetary, boots on ground, etc.
BJ: Bruce: exchanges in New York and Las Vegas but not at moment
PinkRoses:  Bruce: Rate determine on their particpance on the war. Told no groups going on at the moment we are told. IF you are part of a group and many of you are, let that notification come to you which could take 24 to 48 hours to roll out.
PinkRoses:   Bruce: I don’t expect that in terms with emails as WF group. I feel we will have a shotgun approach as well as the internet group. Some may be tempted to take off and go, but going to be wise if part of a group is to wait for the group and follow instuctions in email and take advantage what the group will offer. Dont ask me anymore about groups. They are private
BJ:  Bruce: wait on your group so you can take advantage of what group has to offer
Pink Roses:   Bruce call: Some of you are part of groups, some are not. All be taken care of. You have an opportunity to many concern of trust and structure, don’t have those set up before hand. Go in and expect to meet the people that will help you set up your structures. GEt with the Wealth managers, private banking groups, work with the attorneys and cpa at least initially to get started
PinkRoses:  Bruce: then you can get your own people. If you don’t have all that stuff set up, and 90 percent of us don’t, don’t sweat it. You will be able to take your time to do that as you learn.
Pinkroses:  Bruce call: You will be wise if you can learn all the aspects of this new found wealth, everything going to be yours. Wise to learn what you can about investments with your advisors. They will be able to read you quickly how far you are with the investment game. They will do their best to help you learn. They will have seminars for you to learn.
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: We will have such. WE plan not going anywhere, and plan to have calls to help you.
BJ:  Bruce: some people will be able to help you on the big call after the rv
PinkRoses:  Bruce: WE can make a difference in so many ways.
Champagne Life:  Bruce: invest wisely, so you can give wisely
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: rates still quite good, they are fine.
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: Kent going to read email of intel info.
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: Kent: Everything single mandate requested by IMF, world bank, and UN have been delivered on. AML law done. Budget and deficient, salary ? done. CBI oversight and monitoring panel agreed with IMF done. Person put it out is Arcookie. Bruce dont know who that is.
BJ:  Bruce: every country has signed off; Phillipines was last
ChampagneLife:  Bruce: everything is ready, everything is in place
PinkRoses:  Bruce: everything is ready, in place. Last nation to sign off with the IMF is the Philippians. Every country has signed off. WE are waiting for the perfect timing for this to drop in. We can feel good for this ride to come to an end, to exchange and start new life shortly.
PinkRoses:  Bruce: I was informed on Tony’s call somebody from area 919, brought in that I had said that dinar coming out at a dollar. I think the caller was greatly mistaken. I have never said that the dinar coming out at a dollar. To clarify this. We love tnt and good work going there. That is not my opinion and didnt say it, whoever that caller is get it from someone else that said i said it.
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: literally we could have it any moment. We need to continue to be patient. Thought we would have a celebration call tonite, could still have one tonite. My opinion we are looking at a timing issue. When it is a good time for this to drop in.
PinkRoses:  Bruce: That is where we are. You can feel confident, blessed, highly expectant for this to come through
Pinkroses: Bruce call: Bruce getting ready for Q and A
Pinkroses:  Bruce caller: I did hear that caller say that Bruce said that. I knew Bruce not say that. This guy totally wrong, idk who he is
Pinkroses:  Bruce caller: I read some gal on her opinions and she sounded like this could stretch out till wee hours of Sunday morning and that the Rv could happen before 4/22. Im kinda on the edge, is there any expectation it could drag out until Sunday am?
Bruce: Always the possibility it could drag out till Sunday am. WE know we are close, we know things are accomplished, things are ready now for awhile…. It is a matter of exact time when this could drop for us. I did not read it needed to go in the wee hours of Sunday morning. I do not expect that, no.
PinkRoses: Bruce caller: If people are cashing out, i wouldnt expect the groups to go before the regular people    Bruce: i expect the groups to be notified same time as other people
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: We are losing a huge number of Vets with suicide each day, Veterans are taking it hard.   Bruce: We have to do what we can to reach out. WE will be involve in that.
Pinkroses: Bruce caller: When we do our exchange just to tell them to put majority of our money in noninterest acct, it be fairly safe?    Bruce: I advise you when you meet with the bankers at exchange, ask their advise. I dont care whether it non or not non interest acct.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: Are we going to have any tax. They saying if street amount probably non tax?
Bruce: Yes they are saying if street rate it be non taxable event
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: I know the guy was talking about Martha earlier. MG say it going to be anytime. Martha said something about the ZIM not in the basket. Frank said the dong being pushed out by China?
PinkRoses:  Bruce: not heard anything about it but by them. What I am hearing all the currencies we been following in the first basket and they are ready to go.
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: 100 trillion, still need to have 100 trillion to exchange the zim?  Bruce: old wives tale. Your 10 trillions will go just fine with 6 zeros off like the 100 trillion.
PinkRoses:  KENT: Lady corrected that immediately about the caller; Bruce: thank you Lady and tnt
Pink Roses: Bruce caller: article 8 with IMF, it is a requirement that IMF made for Iraq to meet before it be international recognized and tradeable.
Bruce: I dont think article 8 required. Article 7 was required. The tradablility for the currency internationally. It is the final thing to release them from that. They need the internationally currency back, that is what we are waiting for.
Pinkroses:  Bruce caller: appreciation, Tony had stated that people on east coast bought so much zim, that why we put you on 20, 50, 100 year plan to be paid out on zim. You said as long as we deal with that one big bank not should be a limit?
Bruce; hearing two things. There maybe a limit one billion usd as result of exchange of the zim per entity. Then i heard that maybe not be an issue in certain cases. Im going to say maybe and maybe not be. As far as your 25, 50 100 year pay out program, not heard that at all.
Pinkroses: Bruce caller: going in to the exchange
Bruce: If you go in and have the attitude of saying i need some help in this area can you give me a hand in this. most people will bend over backwards to help you, even bankers…. They can help you to learn, not to do everything for you. You do need to learn this stuff.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: you feel anything different where we are this week right now from the past?
Bruce: yes it has to do with the funding going in place even today. trns available and out ready for exchange. those are in place we are trying to verify that. We do see quite abit of money movement. WE are seeing certain things occuring that we didn’t see last week even Tuesday
Bruce: I hoping we are still on for this week. WE do not know time or day. WE should have a mood of expectation everyday now.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: timing of length of time for exchange of zim, is that time frame 30 days still?
Bruce: time we have to exchange the zim, last time i heard that is 21 to 38 days. I am not telling anyone to wait on the zim. My plan with zim is to go in immediately. The rates quite good, better than what we told you before. You will be very happy with it.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: having butterfiles nervous energy    Bruce: nervous energy, but fear is not okay. Be confident, dress for success, be pleasant, smile. I have to tell myself sometimes to smile.
Bruce dont be in fear, remember be in faith
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: recently went in to the G20 meeting and read????
Bruce: not concern about that. About bailins.
Bruce: I dont see bailins …its not an issue
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: MG had said there be a 40 cent sucker rate for 10 day period before the actual rv would happen. is that what we are dealing with right now.
Bruce: that is not what I am hearing with a number of bank sources. I would say exact opposite.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: I’ve  been listening to you and everyone else. You really feel this going to go down by Sunday?   Bruce: Yes, I do feel it will go by Sunday
Bruce: some say before Sunday, some say by Sunday
Bruce: i am feeling pretty good about it guys. intel we getting is pointing that way. just need timing right. Everything we can tell is completed and done. we dont know anything else to be done.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller; what kind of timing they are waiting on?
Bruce: i dont think anything particular. …what we understand china in drivers seat and coordinating with our agencies. it going to happen when it happens
Pink Roses:  bruce caller; iraq wants to push that button?    Bruce: lets call it a joint exercise involving all the nations at once. iraq is done. they are not waiting on Iraq
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: curious about trns. if feeling pretty confident this ready to go
Bruce: that is the quadtrillion zim question, that the trns need to be out there. we hear verification they are out….. then hear they are not out. we are not sure about them being out.
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: one more thing. been 5 years, seen progress made. this what makes it look different from a month ago what been accomplished
Bruce: it looks like from a legal point of view they are done. laws passed and enacted. They hsve  been buying stuff, celebrated, had a kind of black out of info, only hearing about ISIS
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: you have confirmation they are using those cards
PinkRoses:   Bruce caller: 10 trillion zim notes be accepted?  Bruce: yes the 10 trillion notes, billion notes. yes, the trillion and billion notes we hear are being taken
PinkRoses:  Bruce caller: rates? they showing?
Bruce: we heard rates been on the screens now, showing front and back screens. That some transaction taken place in some cities. yes, rates are there, sometimes when people are trying to do a transaction they get to the end and it not completed.
Bruce: the theory is that when that happens and it becomes live for us to exchange. some of the hedge mangers could jump on this, it could affect the rates. the rates could go up. my plan to go in fairly quickly to get it done.
Bruce: closing Q and A
Bruce: thank you everbody. I am excited where we are. I am looking for this to be over after over 10 years myself and move on to the next phrase.
PinkRoses:  Bruce: Whatever time you been involved in this, we are going to look back on this and say WOW, that was something else. what a ride. What did I learn about patience, helping other people. This is a test. IT didnt come easy. It is a test.,That is okay,. We are building character, patience.
Bruce: It is a huge blessing. Until the manifestation of the blessing be on our plan A and continue to trust.
Bruce: trust that we dont lose our investments, and give foolishly. remember 4 little things: 1) lose no money 2) grow the money 3) protect the money 4) be in postition to give the money to help others
Bruce: I am  going to put some in a fund and as it grows I can give more each quarter. That is a gift that keeps on giving, an endowment fund. we want to do this….. continuessly  tithing.
Bruce: grow the money so you can continue to give it. every quarter you know how much you earn. okay how much we spend. how much can we give? oh that much. lets figure it out how much we can give not to erode the principle. think in terms of giving it.
Bruce: thank you for coming in on call, looking forward hopefully a celebration call next Tuesday. Watch your emails just in case. Kent: pray call out.
Bruce call: Kent praying call out. Call is done
Pink Roses:  The big call Bruce reply is 605-562-3198 Pin #123456