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Friday, October 23, 2015

TNT: KNIGHT HAWK'S BROTHER IN CHAT 10/23 ABOUT 2:40 PM PT ON.. BY OKROCKS, 23 OCT

KNIGHT HAWK'S BROTHER IN CHAT...
     
hcwillard wrote Hey all, I've been busy with family things with my brothers passing. I want to say how much we appreciate the love and prayers being offered to our family right now. I know he was well loved here and I didn't want everyone here not to know what happened

hcwillard wrote Having Tony mention my brother was really nice too. Someone let him know how much that meant to us
          
hcwillard wrote I only talk to like four people and he was one of them. I feel like he's going to call me any second

hcwillard wrote he was the oldest in the family and I'm the youngest, 
with a 7 year difference, so we didn't really have a relationship growing up but later we were pretty tight
    
     
hcwillard wrote he had a quirky personality and I'll miss that

hcwillard wrote the thing that is so sad is I remember a few years ago being on the chat announcing my wife was cancer free and now I have to announce the death of my brother
   
hcwillard wrote He had a cold and didn't want to go to his son's football game so he stayed home to take a nap. He had asthma that was kicking up because it's hay cutting season right now and sometime between the game and when they checked on him a few hours later he was gone. the coroner has him now and will determine the true cause of death, but I think he might have choked while sleeping...but we don't exactly know right now...      
   
hcwillard wrote he also slept with an oxygen sleep mask and he didn't have it on, but again, we don't really know yet

hcwillard wrote he was only 42 and that was the most unexpected thing, but like I said last night, you never know when you are called home, so always be kind. that's the most shocking part is his age
     
hcwillard wrote I just got asked to speak at his funeral next Friday. I'm going to do it, even though I kind of don't want to
          
hcwillard wrote knowing my brother if I don't take the opportunity to say something irreverent at a funeral he'd be really mad at me.     
   
hcwillard wrote if you see Knight Hawk logged in it will be family checking in.. not a ghost     
   
hcwillard wrote I'm trying to say thank you to everyone that I can, if I miss you, it's not intentional     

hcwillard wrote I'm actually here a lot of the time, I'm just a lurker, he was the talker     
   
hcwillard wrote I'm going to put his recipes in a book in his honor, I'll make an online copy for anyone who wants it.
  
hcwillard wrote he was rough around the edges, but he showed his caring heart by taking in friends of his kids who had nowhere to go and being a surrogate father to her and being a surrogate grandfather to the kids of another one of his daughters friends.. he really had a soft spot for a lot of people
    
hcwillard wrote we are lucky to have two close contacts in the RV process, so we get some inside info at times.. he was good at letting everyone know

hcwillard wrote I'm going to let everyone in the family know about the thread, I went through it during lunch today and it was bringing tears to my eyes
     
hcwillard wrote it's way sad and right now the best thing I can do is help his daughter and son through the rest of high school and show up for all the things he should have been there for.. my nephew starts to wrestle in december so I have a few matches in my future

hcwillard wrote I like that post that says that he'll have a front row seat to watch the RV roll in.
    
hcwillard wrote I need to get some more things done, but thank you all for the kind words. I'll be on again soon.
     
hcwillard wrote okrocks: of course you can share the posts

KTFA CHAT UPDATE, 23 OCT

KTFA:

dnari131
 » October 23rd, 2015, 4:20 pm

Video: IMF Board Expected to Make Yuan Decision Next Week

11:32 AM PDT    October 23, 2015

Video Link
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FrostyTheSnowman » October 23rd, 2015, 4:26 pm

Look who's coming to dinar ... uh, make that dinner.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/23/emergency-royal-family-meeting-jeb-to-meet-with-former-presidents-bush-41-bush-43-in-houston-as-campaign-struggles/
Aggiedad77:  Well I KNOW everyone else's mouths aren't fully of cookies

So I'm not sure of the reason for so few posts

Unless it has to do with a "slow" week, or everyone left early for the weekend

I remember a post from WS yesterday where Baghdad security was asking for no demonstrations today.....they were to have security in use elsewhere......do we know if that was effective so there were no demonstrations today?

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Frank26:  For about eight months now ......... Organized demonstrations are done EVERY Friday in Baghdad.

This was A's (Abadi’s) idea.    KTFA   Frank

TNT :What Forex Means to US Now by IKO WARD, 23 OCT

Hello Everyone,

This post is to help folks understand what Forex is and what it is not in reference to our investment. No doubt, experienced Forex Traders will have their own opinions but please try and limit your input to the topic.

Some basics. Forex is an organization the international banks and financial entities use to help them conduct various international currency transactions. These are multi-million dollar deals. They are most famous for currency trading and speculation, but they serve an entire industry based on the fiat system of economics. It is very complex, and much of it depends on hi-level access and insider knowledge. For a basic primer, see 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_market

For the past two years I have been studying Forex in relation to the basket currencies to see how it relates to other intel we’ve been getting. I found there was a pattern. Every time a serious, verifiable attempt was made at an RV, Forex clearly showed a favorable rise in the Dinar rate the night before. As more and more examples were proven, this became an indicator. Over the past six months this has become an acceptable method of helping to track the RV. It is not the sole indicator, but one of many. The nice thing about it is the black and white nature of the data. Numbers don’t lie, sort of. 

Forex is worth monitoring now because they are setting trading spreads for their clients based on what the CBI leaks and what they are hearing from their high-level contacts in the three letter agencies. We get to see these spreads every day and interpret their meaning for our own needs. What we always must bear in mind is Forex exists for the banks and big traders, not for the little guy. My favorite description of Forex likens it to a snake infested island surrounded by shark infested waters. Forex would not exist without the Fiat Currency. So it is a fictional overlay on a fictional system. It’s money made out of thin air and digital manipulation.

1- Forex does not set the international rate for Dinar. The CBI does that. But the CBI is also playing games, so right now Forex can only suggest a daily rate. That is why they always go back to the CBI’s 1166 at least once a day.

2- After the RV Forex may or may not be posting rates. The CBI may or may not be posting rates in the first few days, but eventually the CBI will be the sole arbiter of the rates. Platforms like Oanda and XE will be posting rates also and your bank may have another rate entirely. In the first few days you’re going to have to do your homework or trust your bank. I will be looking at as many rate posters as I can find.

3- Whether or not you think it is worth watching Forex pre-RV is your choice, but a great many people who seem to know what they are talking about have adopted this indicator as part of their portfolio. I continue to see it as valuable.

As always, whenever I try to define Forex and it’s relevancy to our investment I fall short. Maybe the simplest thing to say is right now it is worth monitoring, but once we have an official RV it may not. The trick to monitoring Forex is to take all the other intel out there and then mix it in. The best you will get is an informed guesstimate. But the Empire State Building was built on an informed guesstimate. No one had ever built a steel girder building that tall. We’re just going to have to wait and see.

Best
Iko

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 23 OCT

TNT Call notes 23-October-2015

Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Friday, October 23, 2015.  Today is a super-super-fantastic day – you have no idea.  Pam wants this to be First-caller Friday. I have 500 people on the line with their hand up.
Pam:  Dump them all!  Then we can have No-question Friday.
Tony:  In the chat room we lost Knight Hawk, one of our good members.  Pam started a thread for those who want to send condolences to his family.  Knight Hawk was very popular in the chat room, 42 years old, and he passed away in his sleep.  His brother is in the forum, too, so we want to send our condolences.
So much has happened this morning, and I want to tell you the strategy for the last 60-90 days.  I also want to tell you a bit about what to expect when this happens, and a scenario you can use to your benefit. 
In Iraq, some of our sources are saying that they ARE expecting something to change over the weekend.  They have been told to look for something, a physical something, so I don’t know if it will happen or not. We’ve heard about lower denominations being given out, parties being planned, etc.  That was NOT announced in the mosques this morning, it’s coming from government officials and through parliament.
On this side, the green light was given from 3pm yesterday, and started this morning at 2am, and it didn’t happen.  There are two windows they like for the weekend for 3-4 hours each time, and if it doesn’t happen we go to the next one.  Some people were at the bank at 5am this morning because they thought it was happening.  People have been moved from branch locations to exchange locations because they thought it would happen today. They have been told not to plan anything for this weekend or next week because they will be busy.  I was told certain notifications went out in the last hour, and I am trying to confirm that.  I can just tweet ‘verified’ if it is.
There is a possibility that dinar will come out at an unusually high rate, maybe even over $5-6 for a very short period of time, then fall back to where it should be ($3.41), show up on Forex, where it will probably rise and then fall again.  If you don’t know how to access Forex and watch it grow, I would probably jump on that early rate, which will be for a short period of time. That’s what I mean by “they moved the cheese”.  Once it comes back down,  you will have to wait and work to get that higher rate, and I don’t know if people have the expertise to do that.  It should settle above the Kuwaiti rate. Their goal is to get that completed within the first nine days, so they will probably want to start it a little higher than originally planned, to attract everyone within those nine days.
No bad news apart from a meeting yesterday when CL was highly pissed off that nobody could get this right and it hasn’t already happened. That’s actually a positive thing, because she let them have it during the meeting.
Every weekend for a while, everyone has said they are ready to go, and that is like the boy who cried wolf. They are not just getting us excited, but also bankers and govern-ments all around the world excited every time they do this. They are also frustrated and tired of working overtime, going in early, etc.  Maybe that was the strategy the whole time, to get everyone so sick and tired of hearing that they won’t believe it when it does go. That could work to their advantage to keep out the bad guys, because they are just as frustrated as we are.  We’ll see.  We do know that one day it will actually happy.
If eight people say the sky is blue and two say it’s pink, the sky is probably blue.  I have a contact in Baghdad who says he doesn’t see ANY of what you are talking about!  People over here are frustrated and mad, and I don’t see any of what you are saying on the call.  This is just for that guy. I cannot exchange any currency because there is no dinar!  He gave me some other stuff that I cannot tell you because it might get him into trouble.  He’s doing things that are very different, and that just shows that they are not giving us all the information and we are not 100% right.  However, I still have to report the information they are giving me from other parts of the government.  They don’t know each other and they are giving me the same intel!  This guy is also right, telling me that his exchange rate from 1100 to 1200 and now he cannot exchange at all.  If they don’t have it to exchange, then they are pulling it off the streets, and that means they are getting ready to do something.  It’s not possible for Iraq to survive another 30, 60 or 90 days without any money??  If they are monitoring the 25K notes, there is a reason for that. 
It’s a great day, everyone is prepared.  They don’t know when, but it’s wide open and let’s go do this. I’m hearing this from multiple levels and countries, from Puerto Rico, Iraq, the US and other countries, all in the last 24 hours.
Pam said First-caller Friday, but no one hung up.  Let’s go straight to 404:
404 caller:  Thanks, and may this be THE day!  You said rates could possibly go up to $5-6, I’m thinking that is the international rate, not contract rates, no NDA.  Will contract rates still be available?
Tony:  Yes, that’s right.
Caller:  Many reported that the RV was to come out on the 20th and it was stopped;  many think that has to do with whether it goes through the Swiss system or the new Chinese system.  Also, there is an article on Bloomberg saying that the IMF is blessing the yuan as the new reserve currency.  So there is the rumor that the RV will come out without the US being the lead.  Could this force the US to stop blocking the RV?  What impact would that have on US currency holders?
Tony:  There are a lot of things going on in the banking system. The new Swiss system was supposed to go live including Russia and China (on the 20th).  Chinese yuan was supposed to be named A reserve currency, not THE reserve currency.  That gives everyone some options, and how this would devalue the US currency a bit because the world would not need to use dollars as much. The guys in Iraq thought they would see this on the 20th because so many things were happening on the 20th.  On the US banking screens, it said 20-25th.  Yes, it should have gone on the 20th, but something came up in the banking system that had to be resolved – not necessarily China.  The news today is that the problem has been resolved and the IMF has given the green light for this to go at any time. Some still believe it’s within that window, up to the 25th.  A few days ago a new date/window came up, but they have since removed that date from the screens.
Caller:  Is your bag packed and in the car?
Tony:  My bags are not at the door because DC and Pam have told me to have my bags ready for over a year, and I’m not going to do it until I get the call.  When they call me, then I’ll pack my bags…
Caller:   [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!  So Tony can go.  May this be the day!
Tony:  Dang,  #1 just hung up as I was getting ready to push his number;  he’s been on for 1500 minutes!  I’ll go to #2
707 caller:  I have a technical question.  I have a dear friend who is in St Louis for a murder trial for the next three weeks.  She gave me her zim and a power of attorney.  Will that work for her?
Tony: I don’t know.  Call your or her wealth manager, say that you have the currency and a  power of attorney, and ask if that will work.
Caller:  Yes, I have her ID, notarized power of attorney, bank details and all the rest.
Tony:  Find out if they will accept that.  If not, she can send her actual attorney, and you can go with the attorney to keep an eye on things.
Caller:   [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
828 caller:  Is there still a contract rate on the dong?  What is the rate?  Same for dinar?
Tony:  I’m not giving out the rates because Pam always gets a call afterwards.  The rates are still very good, and there are still contract rates.  The zim is still in the first basket.
301 caller:  Can you go over that platform a little bit more?
Tony:  Those platforms are great to be part of and returns can be good, but they can be dangerous, too.  You have to investigate and see the documents.  It’s better if you go through a bank, but you need 100 million to do that.  The one I was doing in London was because I was invited.  The ones that really pay, you have to be invited.  They are not for the average citizen.  If you don’t have 100 million, there are ways to get together with friends and family members, using trusts or corporations, but you have to figure it out as a business and trust the people you are working with.  Having said all that, be very careful who are you are choosing, because on the internet someone will say they are putting one together, and trying to get you to join.  Don’t do that!  This is something you only want to do in person with people, with YOUR attorney, not their attorney who may be part of a scheme.
Caller:  Is there a limit on the dong?
Tony:  I don’t know, we haven’t talked about that in months.  I’m sure we’ll find that out.
Caller:   [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
410 caller:  There is so much exciting going on, it’s hard to know what to ask!  Have there been changes or notifications on how you guys are going to present or how we are getting this information?
Tony:  I have no idea whether we’ll have a status page, a 15-minute call, a longer call… but as soon as I find out, I’ll send out a tweet!  These higher rates should be available for a couple fo days to give people time to get in, and then it will show up on Forex where it will rise for a couple of days and then probably drop.
Caller:  This sort of feels like the last call.
Tony:  Things are all good, but we’ve been here before thinking this is the last call.  If we have to be here on Monday, we will be.
Caller:  Are the windows really only 3-4 hours?
Tony:  The windows are different days, and then THEY like certain hours within those days.  We will stay alert.  If I thought it was going to hurt the process, I wouldn’t be giving you this information.  I am not the only one who has this information;  I am just trying to help and hopefully it won’t even matter, so don’t get mad at me!  I am happy and feeling better with every text I get.
313 caller:  I was on a conference call that said we would never get the international rate, only the rate the banks set.
Tony: There is the international rate, the official exchange rate, then on Forex there will be a market rate and the contract rate.  We’ll be getting the market rate as shown on Forex.  This first rate will be a flat rate for a few days;  it will then fall back to international rates, and then it will go live and it will climb. That is the rate we will get.  The banks will set the rate, but they will be competitive because they want your business, so the rates will be similar.
Caller:  Iraq is not waiting on laws to be passed…
Tony:  They passed some more banking and protection laws on Wednesday to help convince people to use the banks – so they can feel protected.  These should be the absolute last laws to go.  I understand there was a banking issue on Wednesday that caused a delay but it has been fixed and agreed upon. It was not our banking system. Other that than, the RV was scheduled to go.  It was scheduled for last night, but I’m still talking to you!
Caller:   [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
541 caller:  In earlier calls, you said there was a billion-dollar cap on the zim;  is that per person or per entity?  If I have an entity, that has a different tax number.  Can I put some zim in each entity and each have its individual cap?
Tony:  If you own or control five entities or trusts, the billion dollars is over all of them collectively.  The limit is per person that they think controls that money.  Pam reminds you that we are talking about a billion US dollar.  We have 25,000 people listening to the call right now, and you want me to tell you how to circumvent the US Treasury on this call??
Caller:  I’ve only been in this three months, and I’m just asking the question.  I don’t want to do anything illegal.  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
Tony:  Then don’t do that!
773 caller:  You know this GCR is all about Tony and people are waiting to see your bag packed.  You are so like RayRen!  Re: the Bloomberg article, it says the vote to bring in the yuan as a reserve currency may be as early as next month.  That article is dated 23-Oct-15.
Tony:  That vote was supposed to happen on 20. October, and fi they  moved it, it was so this can move through the system.  It’s very likely to be approved.  One of my contacts strongly suggested we all buy yuan/renminbi.  I told you that, but I have a number of currencies already.  I told you two years ago that there are nine currencies set up in the second basket, and yuan is one of those nine.  I don’t know if it’s been moved into the first basket.  The rules will change immediately after the RV, although you could buy it before, but there are so many other opportunities that we can get involved in right here.
“My group” in this context means my intel people.  It might be a good idea to buy yuan, but I’m not doing it.
Caller:   [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! 
813 caller:  You mentioned on the last call that some banks require existing bank accounts in order to exchange.  Is Wells Fargo one of them?
Tony:  My understanding is that WF is the only bank that HAS to take everyone, because they are the lead bank. However, they don’t want people who only have one 25K dinar note and who will spend it all rapidly.  They don’t want some people, but there are many other banks and investment companies who will gladly take your money, give you a checking account and a credit card just like a bank.  If you have a lot of money, there are a lot of foreign banks that will gladly  take your money.  So you do have options.
Caller:  Do the Iraqi people go first or do we go with them?
Tony:  I have been told that we should be notified and free to go as soon as the Iraqi people go en masse.  No one goes before they do.
636 caller:  Aren’t the Iraqi people still using the US dollar?
Tony:  Not so far as I know.  That guy I talked about earlier cannot even get dinar.  He also said that they are not to have more than 2,000 dinar on them because there are gangs going around robbing people of their dinar.
Caller:  I heard that the IMF just gave Iraq a new loan – is that US dollars or dinar?
Tony: They are giving them US dollars that they exchange for dinar to pay for whatever.  They don’t want Iraq to fall flat on their face, so they give them a little more until this GCR is in place.  They are barely limping along until the RV.  Our contact over there says that he cannot exchange dollars for dinar and that tells me something is about to change.
Caller:  I put my faith in what you put out rather than anyone else.  My frustration is that  some people think that we dinarians are being played for fools.  [talking about a guru]
Tony:  I’ve heard about those guys, how they got people’s money and got them into network marketing.  We tell people about that, tell them why I don’t do that, and warn them about certain things.  People are adults;  they should look at whatever sources make sense to them.  If they are always asking for $300-400, invest in their trust or program, hand over their dinar, etc., then you should be wary.  There are going to be a lot of lawsuits after this happens.
Caller:  They keep saying “I have this information but I cannot tell you” – why would any one believe that?  They will be shocked about what happened to their money.
Tony:  People wait until after this call to do their call.  That’s what brings people to their site. They get paid per click, so if they can draw you over there with “Tony said this or that”, they do that even if they say Tony is wrong.  We have seen this happen across the years – they draw you in with something negative about Tony.  One site said that she was my mother, and she got a thousand people to sign up for $35 each – just for saying she was Tony’s mother! I’m not the only person who gets information and everyone has to put that information together as best they can.  Everyone has said “this is when it’s going to happen” and not one of us have been right. The ones who are telling you it’s not happening until next year… they don’t tell you why not!  If you know it’s not happening until then, tell me why and what can be done to bring it in. They are just a bunch of negative people and I don’t want to live with negative people.  If you can’t tell me WHY it’s not going to happen, then don’t tell me!
Caller:  How long will the banks keep up moving people before telling them to go fly a kite?
Tony:  Some banks did that two years ago… then they paid some more people and said “’we’re done” again.   But there is too much money to leave on the table for them to walk away forever.
Caller:   [Appreciation]  Bank, bank, bank! 
Tony:  Pam said “time, time, time!”
Pam:  It was time ten minutes ago, but this is Tony’s call… I want to thank Daz for running the chat room and forum.  He’s our only full-time mod and he keeps it all rolling. DavidM and PaperBoy are there as much as they can.  We thank the transcribers and guest mods, and also ZebraGirl for the verbatim transcripts.  It’s been tough and fun. Thank you all.
RayRen:  I’m looking forward to getting this done.  Have a good Friday.
Tony:  We sincerely hope this is the last call.  We are frustrated and also excited as you are.  We are still within that window of the 20-25. October.  I am still expecting it;  if the banks can get through this, with their employees being tired of being called in early  and late ‘for nothing’, well, that’s what we’re being told as well. I look at it, but it still has to be worse for the Iraqi citizens. They are not only waiting for the money, they are also going through hell as they wait.  They have the rate on their cards, and they still haven’t been paid this month. If they don’t get it again, think what they are going through! They are going through it, they are surviving and not tearing their government apart.  It will be a life-changing moment, and that’s what gets me through this.  Every time I get a call saying “get ready, pack your bags, don’t go too far from home”, I say to myself that I could be living in Iraq. I’m pretty sure they are having it worse there.  I’m still blessed to be part of this.  Hopefully this is our last call before THE call.  I am super-fantastic and hope you are too.  Enjoy your weekend!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 23 OCT

10-23-2015   Newshound Guru Enorrste   The phrase "entering the market" means allowing their currency to become internationally recognized.  We know that because it comes from the world's biggest money controller, the IMF.  In other words, for the IMF the phrase is extremely powerful.  It is synonymous with the phrase "become a world player."  Only a country in Article 8 with an internationally recognized currency can "enter the market" in IMF terms. Of course it may take some time for the actual movement to Article 8.  That is not our concern.  What is our concern is that they begin the float, and the passing of the Investment Law, as KAP and I have said numerous times, is an essential element in making that possible.  Even more importantly for us, however, is that passing that law will go a long way toward allowing the CBI to begin the float.  Once the money starts coming to Iraq the CBI will leap on the opportunity to continue the execution of The Plan.   [post 3 of 3]

10-23-2015   Newshound Guru Enorrste
   Furthermore, foreign investment will inject new money into the local economies, which means that the CBI will be enabled, finally to float the currency.  As new money comes into the economy the only way to avoid inflation (too much money chasing the same amount of goods) will be to raise the value of the dinar to offset those affects.  By reducing the amount of dinar currency in the market the REAL value of the dinar will rise, meaning that the same dinar will buy MORE goods, thus reducing the upward pressure on prices themselves. I was also pleased to see that the IMF is chiming in on this today, stating that early next year will see Iraq "entering the market. This means that they expect this process to take place and that the float will begin early next year.  The phrase "entering the market" means allowing their currency to become internationally recognized.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

10-23-2015   Newshound Guru Enorrste   Article:  "Parliamentary Economy: Investment Law will happen quantum leap in Iraq's revenues"  The very fact that this announcement came from the Parliamentary Committee on the Economy means that this will happen.  I find that what the Parliamentary Committee is saying echoes exactly what KAP [Guru Kaperoni] and I have said for some time now, namely that once the Investment Law is passed investment will flow into Iraq and literally create a "quantum leap" for the economy.  The term I have often used is that it will be like the "wild west" was in the US at the end of the 19th century...foreign investment will mean that the financial crisis will be ameliorated significantly and will allow the government to return to "normal" in terms of salaries, projects, etc.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

10-23-2015   Newshound Guru Millionday   Article quote:   "special election Economic and Social Council took place in the United Nations General Assembly in Enyoryuk where Iraq won 179 votes out of 187 votes in favor, with one country, so Iraq's record return mission in international forums ...MEANS...BACK TO THE GLOBE.  IRAQ IS NOW AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THIS UN ORGANIZATION... ECOSOC.  THE BEST WORDS IN ONE SENTENCE I HAVE SEEN IN A VERY LONG TIME >>>FROM GLOBAL COMMITMENT TO NATIONAL IMPLEMENTATION.  THIS...IS HUGE NEWS AND...WHY I AM SO VERY EXCITED.

10-23-2015   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23  In the past years they spoke of lifting the 3 zeros and it was DELAYED...needed studied by a committee...We probably couldn't count on 2 hands how many committees kept being formed to study the 3 zeros.  Then they announced delaying from the start of the New Year to June...AND Shabibi said; THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO LIFT THE 3 ZEROS IS AT THE START OF THE FINANCIAL YEAR AND NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A QUARTER OR THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR!   This new salary ladder is a good sign. The delay of the investment law is a good sign. The 2016 Budget being completed before the start of 2016 is a very good sign. And citizens not being paid and liquidity being drawn in off the streets is a good sign.  IMO...Honestly, it doesn't get any better than this as a pre-revaluation phase that sets up the revaluation.  [post 2 of 2]

10-23-2015   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23   This whole salary ladder is being talked about moving to Federal Court and challenged. Such a lawsuit brought forth will stymie all other political reforms... And Abadi will lose credibility... IMO, the BEST thing we have seen is this new salary ladder...The World Bank and IMF had comments in the past that the GOI needed to adjust the grossly over paid salaries...Now President Massoum will make 8 million IQD per month 8 times $862 = $6,896 a month or $82,752 a year. That is not going to work, keeping in mind he is one of the highest paid.  Drop the zeros and give the IQD a rate of $2.66 per dinar and the salary becomes $220,120.00 per year...which is the equiv to international standards...when you take all the salaries on the ladder it works out to what their in country pricing index is.  So the question is...HOW LONG BEFORE THE ARE TOLD...AND IMO...The 3 zeros need to be raised with the "back wall" being the start of the new year.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

10-23-2015   Newshound Guru Adam Montana   Keep an eye on that HCL news... when it slows down this time, I think that's when we're on the home stretch.

TNT : TONY'S CLIFF NOTES BY SUNNY 23 OCT

Highlights of Tony's conference call.  Updated as the call progresses.

Tony:  Nov 3rd date off the screen as of this am.
Tony:  Nighthawk passed away last night.  I"m sure he will be missed by everybody.  Pam started a thread (on Forum).  He was 42 years old.
Dinar:  Tony: So much happening today . . . this morning.  Tell you what's happening and strategy we've been part of last 60-90 days.  Tell you what to expect when this happens and scenario you can use for your benefit.  I was told notifications went out.  Waiting on confirmation.
STRATEGY:  Tony:  Come out at high rate, drop down, show on Forex and go back up.  If you do not know how to access, do FOREX I would jump on the initial high rate.  May stay for a short period of time and then drop down to $3.41.  It should settle .50 above Kuwait.  Once it falls back down, and you don't jump on it, then you'll have to wait for it to climb back up.
Tony: My understanding this first rate is going to be a flat rate- going to be a few days, (go live for everybody?)  then let it fall down to International rate and then let it climb to wherever the market is for the day. 
Suggest ya'll read the verbatim notes to get a good understanding of the above 
CURRENT WINDOW:   Tony:  Green light given as of 3:00 pm yesterday.   Again at 2:00 am this morning.  People at banks early this morning because they thought it would happen.  (when it misses a time frame they go to the next time frame). Tony: They don't know when. Today, tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday. It's wide open. . . . Nov 3rd date off the screen as of this am.
IRAQ:  Tony:  They are expecting something to change over the weekend.  Told to look for something.  A physical something.  Parties being planned.  That was not announced in the mosque.  (Info) comes from some inside people - Parliament, officials.  
  • CBI:  money pulled off the streets.  Tony:  How do they survive another 90 days when there is no currency?  How do they do exchanges?  That's going on, there is a reason for that.  They are monitoring 10K and 25K notes.
  • Banks 
  • TV  /Mosques 
  • ISIL
INTERNATIONAL:  
  • IMF:   Tony:  In meeting yesterday, Christine Legard was hightly pissed off that no one could get this right and it hasn't happened.   They are getting banks, governments all around the world excited. . . frustrated. . . . Maybe that was the strategy (all along).   So no one would know when it's actually happening.   
  • China:  new Swift system went live.  Supposed to have been new reserve currency on Oct. 20th.  There was an issue, in the banking system, that reportedly has been resolved.
  • Rates are better than good.  Still contract rate on dong.  ZIM in first basket.   
UNITED STATES:     
  • Contract rates still available.   
  • Platform Investing:  Tony:  Platforms are a great to be a part of. Return great. Also very dangerous.   Fake companies out there.  Banks are good.  Responsible if goes wrong. Takes 100 million dollars to get in on those types of platforms.  
  • Caps/Limits:  DONG:  This has not been talked about in months so it's unknown at this time the status or if there are any.                 ZIM:  Cap applies and is accumulative no matter how many entities you exchange thru.  If you use a trust, foundation, personal, etc. as soon as they all add up to $50 million, your done.
  • Packages:          

MARTHA UPDATE, 23 OCT

Wake up America, this is The World talking........ from Martha

I listened to Bruce's call and heard exactly what has been going on since the 19th without specifically mentioning Zap's post on 10/21.  Bruce actually was expecting it prior to his call and perhaps later.

What truly caught my eye is the statement that "China is funding this ".

This whole project was done as a cooperative of the BRICS Alliance and the Dragon family.

We need to thank the BRICS for forcing the very needed change in the financial world; to clean up all the corruption that had been in play for hundreds or. even thousands of years.

We need to thank the Dragon family, the keeper of the assets for thousands of years and are now releasing them to help Humanity get back on an "alignment " and to clean up this planet.
....
The overall plan is to establish a gold standard for every country and every person that has been wronged by war and corruption.

I'm not going to lecture but it is time to realize the truth of what is about to happen. All I can think of his Robin Hood and his band of thieves who stole from the rich and gave to the poor.

Iraq has been ready for so long but has been held back for the right time. Yes, there have been delays for good reasons, and there have been out right stops from the ones that didn't want this to happen.

People have come and gone. There are those who have lost their lives over the assets.

There have been arrests and more to come in the coming months. The financial world is in for a reality check.

A lot of prophetic things to happen have been tempered. I remember months ago when the new treasury notes where brought up and Tony said who does that make sense to?

Well it is now a reality as well as a world currency and even a world government but not in the bad sense but as a way to control the political and financial corruption.

Finally, don't be afraid to read off main stream media. Dont be afraid to speak your mind.

Educate yourself and your children before it is too late. Communicate with each other.
Become a family again. Sit down and read to your children. Be pro active in what is being taught in school. There are so many areas that need to be cleaned up. We have become so apathetic it is truly sad.

How many people are going to watch world events once we exchange?

How many people are talking a good story about what they will do with their money and decide just to burn thru it with the lottery mentality?

Your money will be safe at the banks and you can thank the new transparency laws and the BRICS who created a way and need to circumvent the corruption of the financial world.

Remember that money is the route to all evil.

Think twice before you waste it.

Martha

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 23 OCT

TNT:

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ERES MY GO TO PIECE OF INFO. YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE IRAQ HAS ALWAYS HAD A VALUE IN THEIR ECONOMY AND CURRENCY...

UP UNTIL THE IRAQ INVASION, WHEN WORLD COALITIONS TURNED THEIR MONEY OFF FOR THE WAR EFFORT.. WHEN ALL NEEDED CONDITIONS ARE MET...

THEY WILL SIMPLY TURN THE MONEY BACK ON. IT DONT GET NO SIMPLER THAN THAT http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/exportal.aspx?memberKey1=460&date1key=2015-01-31&category=EXCHRT

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Chillimac:  BREAKING NEWS BLOOMBERG INF MAY ADD YUAN AS RESERVE CURRENCY INF SAID TO GIVE STRONG SIGNAL TO CHINA YUAN PASSED THE EURO AS #2 MOST USED CURRENCY

OKRocks:  The News of IMF talking as Yuan seems to be in IS the best "announcement" we will get... that is how I see it

IMO take this is your announcement ...IMF Said to Give China Strong Si​gns of Reserve-Currency Blessing... Chinese officials said to prepare ​celebratory statementshttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-23/imf-said-to-give-chi​na-strong-signs-of-reserve-currency-blessing

Doby45:  okrocks...this is major! Thx!

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[patcat151] Hey ya'll, I just saw something wonderful from a clip on CBS news.
A wealthy gentleman in Kansas City Missouri, "deputized" deputies in that city to be his secret Santa's.

They were each given one thousand dollars in houndreds, and would target cars that were in very poor shape, old, dented , rusted, bondo..etc. pull them over and give them 100 dollars on behalf of the secret Santa.

The response was amazing, happiness, tears and hugs. I now know what I am going to do for my town. Each 100 dollar bill with a TNTSuperfantastic card. This is such a great idea!

TERRYK CHAT UPDATE WITH MAC, 23 OCT

Morning Coffee with TerryK and Mac 10/23/2015 10:00 AM

terryk:
Morning all


kenbbq1:
morning Terryk


mac:
Good morning get team family!


terryk:
hey mac
terryk:
ken
terryk:
colorado


mac:
TK


terryk:
beach
terryk:
mike
.MikeH:

Terryk mac good morning  

mac:
Colorado can you believe frost on the windshield and knee deep snow in the mountains!!!
mac:
BEACH!!!!!!!!!
mac:
mike
mac:
ken
mac:
it’s like the mouseketeers


Colorado:
We did not get frost in springs


terryk:
its 102 in the hot tub...


mac:
grrrrrrr
mac:
dislike cold.


.MikeH:
it is 81 in Destin FL come on down


terryk:
pool water 54


mac:
you guys are not my favorite right now. haha


Colorado:
Shower water --- never mind


.MikeH:
the pool temp is 79.6 and they say it is too cold to go in


terryk:
tell them where your from mike


kenbbq1:
TerryK and Mac what do ya'll know about ecosoc.....


terryk:
they will understand


.MikeH:
I did 


kenbbq1:
TerryK it is just his Destin.....


mac:
what is ecosoc? Socks made from biodegrable material?


terryk:
yea what is it


kenbbq1:
Iraq was voted in yesterday


mac:
Socks with an echo?


terryk:
voted where


mac:
Voted what?


terryk:
I did see where budget will be approved this month
terryk:
and maybe today


mac:
Yes just voted tho.


kenbbq1:
to be voted in have to be global.....


terryk:
Wow
terryk:
so we wait to see HCL


kenbbq1:
won't the HCL and RV come out together?


terryk:
it can
terryk:
but like to see discussions indicating that


mac:
ken, be careful, I read that as only exposing Iraq to the International forum not them being req'd to be international


Tommy864:
Good Morning Everyone From NYC God Bless America


mac:
It’s only a council within the UN.


terryk:
hey tommy


mac:
I saw it this AM too long to read and make here on time I will go back and read it in its entirety.


terryk:
so what's up with zim


mac:
IDK 3 articles alone this morning


kenbbq1:
Here is the link


Colorado:
It's a currency from Zimbabwa. you can get it on line


kenbbq1:
http://www.investopedia.com/...xzz3pMOi6roI


terryk:
To funny


Colorado:
that's all I got - I'll be quiet now


mac:
Colorado, your to funny


kenbbq1:
Godskid: my questions: any rumors on what zim notes will not be considered for exchange? Are the rumors still the same on the currencies being driven up quickly by the markets and then settling down to around the orginal rate where it started?


terryk:
I heard months ago they were going to make a calling on the notes then wait for a period then try if allowed to do something with them
terryk:
now I see today there is a discussion and maybe some funding


kenbbq1:
what is a calling?


terryk:
calling them in
kenbbq1:
ok thanks
mac:
ok ill go.... On the ZIM, haven’t followed closely enough to comment. The currencies driven up is only one of several possibilities. I wait for the RV to see. Until then, idk
terryk:
well said mac
mac:
thanks.
kenbbq1:
I think Mac is in politics..... 
mac:
As long as I can get a Dr. Rom Paul haircut
Tommy864:
any news on the Rial currency
terryk:
not a thing tommy, I really don't follow Iran, however I let a person start posting info about that country in here a few days ago
mac:
Still not a released currency. This one will still need more info.
mac:
And time to brew.
mac:
speaking of brew....
terryk:
only because I feel that it may have indicators on Iraq
kenbbq1:
TerryK do you think Iraq and Iran will go together?
terryk:
yes
terryk:
I do
kenbbq1:
Still no word from Laggard on the new reserve currency?
terryk:
none
kenbbq1:
I wonder if they are waiting for this to pop! That would mean even Laggard doesn't know....
terryk:
that means no one knows
terryk:
and that is why it has not happened yet
terryk:
everyone thinking someone else has to turn iton
terryk:
it on
mac:
ok back. REFILLS! The second best cup of the day!
kenbbq1:
So all the players call each other every morning going is it today.....
terryk:
no I think they sit in a circle
terryk:
and do the circle thing
terryk:
spin the bottle
terryk:
or jerk
kenbbq1:
duck duck goose
mac:
The problem is the person who was supposed to bring the button left it in his other coat. 
terryk:
no I think they forget to bring the bottle
Colorado:
maybe they are playing pass the bottle, not spin
mac:
TK what did you think about the letter to abadi from one of the MPS?
terryk:
more like pass the buck
kenbbq1:
bottle or the middle east pipe
terryk:
what letter Mac
mac:
Naw hookah
terryk:
did not see it
kenbbq1:
and what is in the pipe.....
terryk:
camel poo
mac:
Mike the letter from MP regarding funding the tribes and volunteers. Getting paid equal to combat soldier even though they are volunteers
terryk:
how are they going to pay them
terryk:
they can't even pay gov peeps
mac:
The letter was published in the paper. Would have never happened w/ M. He is also asking for weapons and munitions as agreed.
terryk:
that tells me they are primed
kenbbq1:
I saw where they are spending 5 billion a month out of reserves to run the country....I don't think they can on just 5 billion.....too much going on.....
mac:
There is ALOT of pressure on Iraq and it ALL revolves around money
mac:
There are enough reserves to keep them afloat for 6 months max according to saleh. I believe
kenbbq1:
yep, that is what I saw....then the IMF was going to keep them afloat with loans?
mac:
And the IMF said earlier they would not loan anymore money to Iraq.
terryk:
Big time
mac:
What gives
kenbbq1:
too much double speak I cannot keep up....
kenbbq1:
one day loans next day no loans.....who knows
kenbbq1:
I just know this Iraq will not go down the tubes....too much invested by the world....
mac:
So 8 days left in the month, Parl doesn’t meet till tues the 27th if the first vote is then, four day wait the 31st, passed on the first of nov ., implement on 2 nov?
mac:
This is regarding the investment law.
kenbbq1:
Abadi can do an EO.....
mac:
AN EO to pas investment Law or EO for vote?
kenbbq1:
He can bypass parliament if he deems it an emergency
terryk:
Abadi said last week he would do EO if not passed
terryk:
think I read that
mac:
ok, I can see that.
jannilew:
forgive me. what's an EO?
mac:
Executive Order
kenbbq1:
so we really don't have to see any laws passed he could do it on the fly....
jannilew:
ahhhhh.. thanks!
terryk:
yep
mac:
There are going to be a ton of people with their hand out if that happens
terryk:
there is a ton now with hands out
jannilew:
so, you're starting to feel it's going to be more like a week or so out from now(?)
mac:
true
mac:
not a feeling Jann just looking at what the constitutional timelines are.
terryk:
who knows Jann all we have is articles to go by, peeps talking any time
terryk:
and hearing anything from 3.41 - 4.20
terryk:
everyone is guessing
terryk:
honest I don't care just as long as they turn it on
kenbbq1:
meeeee toooooo
mac:
Jann your getting anxious again. We examine the possibilities and determine which makes sense. No guarantees. Faith remember.
jannilew:
amen
mac:
The only two places God can use is HERE and NOW
mac:
use us is...
terryk:
ok all time to run....God Bless have a great weekend. Go RV
terryk:
see u Monday or sooner
jannilew:
thank you, you too
mac:
TK ttyl
mac:
jann hang on, He will get us there!
jannilew:
mac:
Love each other, got to go get my axle done! Yay one fixed car 6 more to go. hahaha.  guys.