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Friday, July 10, 2015

SUNNY POST FROM TNT : TONY'S CLIFF NOTES, 10 JULY

PAM reminded us the Forum, chat and CC bills are due and if this site is to stay up they need paying!!!
Tony:  Word on the  streets and all around the world is to BE ready . . . It’s coming on a moment’s notice.
Everywhere around the world the word is Go, Go, Go . . .   I think we are finally going to see this.
(IMO Tony was very excited!!! - Sunny)
CURRENT WINDOW:   Tony:  I have talked to people who have been informed that this will be done by Tuesday.  
. . .heard last Thursday . . .last week’s plan is being initiated this week.  There is a window, there are things to look for, and there is a plan between now and Tuesday.
IRAQ:     
  • CBI     
  • Banks 
  • TV              Mosques 
  • ISIL
INTERNATIONAL:   Greece situation is resolved.  Chinese market is going up again.  Gold and silver are solid, and oil going down.  Tony:  All that adds up to the situation looking great.  
  • Rates:  Dong, .47 is the agreed upon rate but often shows on the screens over $2.00.  Tony:  I’m still hearing there will be a contract rate, and it will be higher than the international rate.  If the international rate is $2.27, then the contract rate will be higher still.   Rumors for Rupiah are in $1.37-$1.47 range.  ZIM rumor rates are from .11 to .22.  Tony:  The Dinar is supposed to be good for two years.  I wouldn’t hold onto my currency more than 15-20 days.  I’m not giving you financial or legal advice.  This is my OPINION.   There is no reason to hold onto this currency more than 60 days after the RV. 
UNITED STATES:     
  • UST:    
  • Banks: were in training over the holiday weekend.
  • Taxes:  Tony has heard rumors of no tax, flat tax and 60% tax.  
  • Packages:          
EXCHANGING:    Have those first 10 things lined up and ready to go.
Pam has a website set up for looking at various foundations and projects.  It is: www.fantasticfoundations.com
CLOSING STATEMENTS:
PAM:  I want to thank all the people who have donated to keep the site running for everyone else.  I thank the Mods, the transcribers (especially Sunnygal, Adept1 and Zebragirl) and also the ones in the chat room who are uplifting others.  I know a lot of you have groups that are also bugging you with questions, so you know how we feel! Thank you all for all that you do!
RAY:  Listening to some of the questioners asking you if this is really IT this time… we’ve all heard things that made us think the time had come and then it didn’t. I wish I’d prepared a goodbye statement, but it might be too late. Hopefully we are Finally going to see it Friday.
TONY:  I do have a statement and a song for the final call, so I hope I get the chance to do that.  DC says they are worried about what I might say, but I can be cordial and discreet. Hopefully we’ll be able to do it our way before we do it their way, and DC can come say goodbye.  
If I were you, I would have those first Ten Things lined up and ready to go.  It is better to BE ready than to GET ready.  I will send you these three tweets with their links, and I implore you to read them and understand they are ordinary hard-working people like you who came upon the opportunity of a lifetime. That was their one shot, and they blew it.  The other one will go through a lifetime of success (and pain) because he did make the best of this opportunity.  
You will also have people close to you who didn’t believe but now they want YOU to pay for the rest of your life.  That’s what you will go through the minute they see you have this kind of money – or the people you already told you have this kind of currency.  They will know when you get it, and they will want you to give them some because you didn’t work for those millions.
I really hope to do a call later on this weekend and get this party started. If we don’t have it this weekend, I am going to the event this afternoon in Sacramento. The number is 916-524-4131, and as long as they don’t announce the RV, I’ll be there, and you guys can buy ME drinks! See you later – enjoy your day!
Adept1 - Thank you for your notes.  I could not have done it without you this time.
Well, I have finished my 5 weeks of radiation therapy.  It feels wonderful and freeing to be done.  The prognosis is very good.  Thank you all for your prayers, healing thoughts and well wishes.  Your support helped to sustain me the last few weeks.  I hope to meet you in Vegas, Texas, Atlanta or along life's road.  We will know each other.  
          Like attracts like, light attracts light and good attracts good.  Ya'll are very good!!!

TNT CC NOTES, 10 JULY

Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#

http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=72181209

Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Friday, July 10, 2015.

Pam:  I want to say something.  I want to remind everyone that there are bills to be paid for the forum AND for the radio line. It’s that time that they would like to get paid, so if you like listening to this call, please donate.  Go to www.tntdinar.com and click on the Donate button.  If you don’t like this call, I think you should hang up!  Don’t donate if you can’t afford to look after your own expenses, but if you can donate, that would be great.  Don’t feel obligated, if you don’t, but the bills have to be paid regardless.

Tony:  The news is super-fantastic, and I’m feeling good.  Every intel person I’ve talked to this morning is feeling good.  The word on the  streets and all around the world is to BE ready so you don’t have to get ready.  It’s coming on a moment’s notice. Everywhere around the world the word is Go, Go, Go, and let’s get it over with by Tuesday. There are memos out saying that, so let’s hope it’s over by Tuesday.

That’s all great, but I do have to tell you that is exactly what I heard last Thursday.  It feels like last week’s plan is being initiated this week.  I hope that this is a true fact right now, today.  I can tell you everyone around the world is excited that this may be the last weekend we have to go through this, and we can go on to something else. There is a window, there are things to look for, and there is a plan between now and Tuesday for this to look very good for you.  They haven’t called me into a meeting, and I can’t guarantee the timing, but it looks better than ever before. The Greece situation is resolved, the Chinese market is going up again, gold and silver are solid, and oil is going down – and they want to catch oil prices as high as they can.  All that adds up to the situation looking great.  Last weekend the banks were training their people to a deeper level, and memos have gone out telling them to be ready.  There are good rates on the boards, and people are excited. I believe it’s here!

646 caller:  I will be super-fantastic very soon.  How are the rates looking?  Last night a gentleman who has a call twice a week said the rupiah is $1.47 – have you heard that?  What about zim, dong and taxes?

Tony:  I did hear a rumor of $1.37, so it could be.  I don’t have anything in writing about taxes at all.  I heard the possibility of no taxes, but don’t you think the government will go for all they can get? I have heard a rumor of flat 15% tax.  The worst is 60% tax, and that is what I am prepared for.  For zim, I have also heard 11 to 18 cents, and 21 cents from two banks, but that doesn’t mean it will come out that high.  The worst I’ve ever heard is 11 cents, and the highest has been 22 cents… though some people have seen 27 cents on the screen.  I heard the dong is 47 cents, but a lot of time it has shown on the screen at $2.00 or more. That could be it, but the agreed-upon rate is 47 cents. If you work on that, and it comes out over $2, we’ll all be ecstatic.

Caller:  [Appreciation]  I hope we will all meet at some time.  I will send money today!

Tony:  It’s Vegas, Vegas, Vegas so Tony can go!  In case you get the wrong impression, after the last call some idiot texted me that it’s not about Tony but about the GCR.  Yes, it’s always been about the GCR, and what we are going through together.  One thing I know for sure is that I know how to make money, get involved in business opportunities and thrive.  It’s never about me, what I can or can’t get, because that will happen anyway.  In network marketing, we say that if you help others, you will benefit as well.  It is never about me, it’s about helping you all.  After this call is over, I will send you three links: one about Antoine Walker (went through 100 million dollars), about Latrell Sprewell (dito) and one about a guy who made 80 million and learned to deal with it. The first two lost their money because the people around them thought the money was THEIR money.  Read them and it will help you be prepared for what YOU are about to experience.

337 caller:  Which banks will exchange the zim?  You call them, and even the dealers have no idea about the zim.

Tony:  I don’t know. It shouldn’t be a problem at the larger banks at all.  They don’t know until this actually happens, up until the very last moment.

Caller:  A lot of us listen to calls because we have nothing else to do. For instance, I’m very ill, and this is something to do.  I was worried about you a few months ago, saying you didn’t want to be who you are… I was hoping you weren’t considering doing this Bruce Jenner stuff.

Tony:  I have no idea what you are remembering.  I love my wife, I love women – I don’t love being a woman. For years, people have said “I wish I was you”, but they have no idea what they were talking about.  With all the people who have depended on me to do things in their life – in networking marketing, I had downlines of 11,000 then 13,000, and now I have responsibility for what I say to 200,000 on these calls and those they directly affect.  This is not about me and my family, because they will always eat.  Now I have a lot more people to be responsible for.  I love being me – but YOU don’t want to be me, any more than I would want to be President Obama.

Caller:  Just be you, be patient, and everything will work out.  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

Tony:  It will be worth it, especially if you have listened and made good plants.

323 caller:  I’m trying to find a way to speak with you well after the RV because of a confidential project I’m launching that I know you will want to be invited to. It has nothing to do with business;  it’s a wonderful event that has to do with children.

Tony:  I have written down your number.  Pam has set up a website where you can look at great foundations and projects.  The name of the site iswww.fantasticfoundations.com.  There is information there to help you guys pick the right foundation and to check if the foundations you’re interested in are sending most of the money to the people they are trying to help or whether it’s mostly going to administration.  These are foundations Pam and her group have researched, including Keisha’s Kids.  If you have a children’s program, I will give Pam your number.

Caller:  This is not a foundation, this would be a private, confidential invitation to you.

Pam:  Why wasn’t I invited?!  I’m hoping that Fantastic Foundations will have the link to Keisha’s Kids, and also the projects Tony, DC and Ray are interested in.  That is a way they can give back to you guys, so we will list your favorite charities as well.

Tony:  Let’s get back to the information. I was wondering if we could have a day of giving within 72 hours of exchanging, to give to someone who gives of themselves, and who needs a lift up – for example, giving a $1,000 tip as a way of changing someone’s life. You could put super-fantastic somewhere on the receipt, and we could all feel good because we are all paying it forward.  It would be even better than the government stimulus through tax.  We could do that immediately, when you have the most money, so much that you can easily afford to make a difference, immediately.   Kick it around, see if that is something everyone can do together.  We’d be able to because we would have just got into this.

When you dial in, if you don’t’ have a question or comment, please don’t put your hand up or press *2 to put your hand down.

209 caller:  I’m super-fantastic myself!  Are you planning to tweet when you are doing the 15-minute call?

Tony:  I would like to do that, but I don’t know what THEY want to do.  They have a couple of plans:  just to have people notice the static website, to do a live call and answer questions, or to do a recorded 15-minute call.  I know that I would like to do a call.

Caller:  I assume you will a regular at the Poker tournament every year, and everyone could wear a TNT superfantastic hat or shirt.  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

Tony:  I don’t play poker, and I don’t know if my NDA will allow us to have a meeting, but I can certainly wear the shirt in Vegas because I already have one!

404 caller:  [call dropped for two minutes]  Do you know what the messages were in the mosques this morning?

Tony:  They said it was the same as recently:  economic changes coming, nothing about it happening today or tomorrow.  However, yesterday our contacts say the people are getting frustrated, taking to the streets, etc.

Caller:  We hear different official announcements. Will Christine Lagarde make an announcement, or Dr. Abadi?

Tony:  There seem to be a couple of options, and it could be any of those people, and at one point even President Obama.  Any announcement will be after the fact, in any case, and depending on what else is happening around the world, they might just let it go.

Caller: We’ve been connecting the dots for years now, and at one point there was an algorithm that had to be recalibrated when this stopped and started again.  What’s the state of play now?

Tony:  I don’t think we have to go through that, now that the system has been set up and tested.  Everything is in the system, they can see the rates.  It’s possible that the rates might change as soon as it goes live – some don’t believe these are the final rates – but the system is definitely live or they wouldn’t be able to use the cards or see the same rates everywhere. They don’t have to wait for anything, they can just say Go, and we hear they are ready to do that. WE don’t know the exact day or time, but someone does know.  People are excited because there is nothing else to do but DO IT. That’s where we’re at.

Caller:  What is up with Maliki?  We’ve heard he’s at the Hague, arrested, not arrested;  what do your sources say?  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

Tony:  My sources say “Do we really want to have this conversation?”   Maliki is not an issue;  he is being dealt with.  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

405 caller:  About the contract rates, I have significant amounts of dinar and dong.  I’m not really confident about the government leaving us alone.  If you sign an NDA for one currency, are you still at risk for the other currencies?

Tony:  I would think the NDA covers ALL your transactions from that point.

540 caller:  You stated that dinar will be good until November of 2016… I’m thinking that if I don’t get a contract rate, I’m thinking about the first mouse, second mouse, etc.

Tony:  It is supposed to be good for two years. If I were you, that would be the last thing I’d be worried about, because I wouldn’t hold onto my currency more than 15-20 days.  I’m not giving you financial or legal advice;  this is my OPINION.  I think we will see it go up and come back down within 30 days, and then you won’t see it rise more than 2% for years to come.  There is no reason to hold onto this currency more than 60 days after the RV. This is not a long-term investment once it comes out.

Caller:  [Appreciation]  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

409 caller:  [Appreciation]  My question about Maliki has been asked and answered.  I pray this goes this weekend.  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

601 caller:  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

772 caller:  [Appreciation]  I hope that this is the week!

Tony:  You and me both, believe me!

Caller:  Everything’s been covered.  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! And North Carolina!

310 caller:  [Appreciation]

Tony:  Thanks.  We are all trying to help as best we can.  I don’t know everything, but I know what I know, and I try to share that with you.

Caller:  It’s not like you are members of Congress, and if people don’t appreciate you or don’t care to be enlightened, they can turn the phone off.  Any other info on the dong?  If it goes at 47 cents, will they be offering the contract rate?

Tony:  For years, I’ve heard the international rate would be 47 cents and the contract rate would be over two dollars.  Now, in the last couple for months, all we are seeing is the rate over two dollars.  However, even that rate can change. I’m still hearing that there will be a contract rate, and it will be higher than the international rate.  If the international rate is $2.27, then the contract rate will be higher still.

Caller:  Thanks, Tony!  Thanks, Pam!  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

301 caller:  If I work in Maryland but have property in Florida, with a bank account in Florida, will I have to pay taxes if I exchange in Florida?

Tony: Where to you live?

Caller:  I work here but live in both places.

Tony:  I think they will look at where you work, and where you live most of the time.  Talk to your tax person, but that is normally what they apply.

713 caller:  This is my first time on this call.  [Appreciation] Rate on the dong?

Tony:  It’s our pleasure, and it will be worth it when it’s over.  I’ve heard 47 cents for years, and then for the last few months they’ve been saying $2.27.

Caller:  Do you truly think this will go through by next Tuesday?

I have talked to people who have been informed that this will be done by Tuesday.  With all the notifications and people being trained over the holiday weekend, I think we are finally going to see this.

Pam:  I want to thank all the people who have donated to keep the site running for everyone else.  I thank the Mods, the transcribers (especially Sunnygal, Adept1 and Zebragirl) and also the ones in the chat room who are uplifting others.  I know a lot of you have groups that are also bugging you with questions, so you know how we feel! Thank you all for all that you do!

Ray:  Listening to some of the questioners asking you if this is really IT this time… we’ve all heard things that made us think the time had come and then it didn’t. I wish I’d prepared a goodbye statement, but it might be too late. Hopefully we are Finally going to see it Friday.

Tony:  I do have a statement and a song for the final call, so I hope I get the chance to do that.  DC says they are worried about what I might say, but I can be cordial and discreet. Hopefully we’ll be able to do it our way before we do it their way, and DC can come say goodbye.  If I were you, I would have those first Ten Things lined up and ready to go.  It is better to BE ready than to GET ready.  I will send you these three tweets with their links, and I implore you to read them and understand they are ordinary hard-working people like you who came upon the opportunity of a lifetime. That was their one shot, and they blew it. The other one will go through a lifetime of success (and pain) because he did make the best of this opportunity.  You will also have people close to you who didn’t believe but now they want You to pay for the rest of your life.  That’s what you will go through the minute they see you have this kind of money – or the people you already told you have this kind of currency.  They will know when you get it, and they will want you to give them some because you didn’t work for those millions.

I really hope to do a call later or this weekend and get this party started. If we don’t have it this weekend, I am going to the event this afternoon in Sacramento.  The numbers is 916-524-4131, and as long as they don’t announce the RV, I’ll be there, and you guys can buy ME drinks! See you later – enjoy your day!

ARTHUR UPDATE, 10 JULY

 At the beginning of July they gave themselves a 2 month window (early September) to finally implement the HCL.  All the Maliki and 50 and 100K notes, bonds, credit rating, and security concerns are all external issues to what is directly and vitally needed to implement full blown currency reform in Iraq. They ABSOLUTELY MUST have a signed, sealed, delivered and fully implemented Hydrocarbon LAW, not tentative agreements to move any further PERIOD.  After all this time people still fail to see the significance of the HCL as it pertains to the MR of Iraq.  There is no way to even  fully open the budget without it.  It is the HCL that authorizes all the necessary production share agreements (PSAs) which guarantees a profit for all the foreign oil companies then allows for the GOI to distribute remaining revenues fairly throughout the nation on a per capita basis.  

It allows Iraq's provinces freedom from the GOI in giving exploration and production contracts which the Kurds and other provinces desperately want and must have since the constitution allows governates to form semi-independent regions, fully controlling their own natural resources.

There has been a call for mass organized unrest up to and including shutting down the airport to the green zone to start in mid Aug with the sole purpose of overthrowing this parliament which would be tantamount to civil war and it is no coincidence that this show of resistance is scheduled right near the deadline for the Shiites and Sunnis in this parliament to put aside their centuries old sectarian hatreds at least long enough to finally implement this much needed historic law so the world can finally realize a reality rate for the Iraqi dinar. 

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 10 JULY

TNT:

Blackjack7 :  do I dare say I have some new info…..  just heard from my friend with the bonds and he was told today to expect something extremely big in the next few days….This has something to do with the NYSE and the China exchange...a few days ago a tremendous amount of funds moved

sdtraderunner:  BlackJack funny that your friend just got that info and we are coming into a weekend ....That is Exciting!!!!

New Oil Agreement Ready to Sign Between Baghdad and Erbil, 10 JULY

The Wall Street Journal issued a statement that a new oil agreement is being signed in Baghdad between the Iraqi Central government and the Kurdistan Regional government after collapsing the first oil agreement. The first agreement have been rejected by the Kurdistan authorities and demanded from Baghdad to follow the agreement or sign a new oil agreement.
A member of the Iraqi Finance Committee from the Kurdistan Alliance MP Ardalan Noureddin issued a statement for Wall Street that Baghdad government didn’t pay amount according to the agreement to the Kurdistan Regional government and Iraqi government failed to fulfill the Kurdish requirements. So the second agreement was much necessary and now, the second agreement is being finalized and near to be signed between the two parties, but he didn’t disclose all its details. According to the newspaper, the Kurdistan Regional government has sold more than 550.00 barrels oil per day to the Iraqi State Oil Marketing Organization (SOMO). In the month of June, Kurdish authorities have sold independently most of its oil because they said that Baghdad didn’t give Kurdistan its agreed shares to fulfill its regional requirements. Kurdistan needs to get its complete shares defined according to the agreement in order to pay salaries to their employees and to perform other major and important tasks in the region.

Iran talks extended through the weekend, 10 JULY

Negotiators for world powers and Iran in Vienna plan to work through the weekend toward an agreement on the future of Iran's disputed nuclear program.
Diplomats agreed to extend until Monday terms of a temporary deal that set conditions for talks to continue , The Associated Press reported, citing unnamed diplomats. The new deadline is the fourth target date since the agreement was supposed to be reached on June 30.
World powers – the United States, Britain, France, Russia, China and Germany – had been seeking an agreement by Friday to limit Iran's nuclear program in return for lifting U.S. and international sanctions that have crippled Iran's economy. The U.S. goal in the talks is to prevent Iran from producing a nuclear weapon, which Iran says it does not seek.
Iranian foreign Minister Javad Zarif on Friday blamed Western powers in the talks for changing positions, losing cohesion and making excessive demands late in the process.
"Unfortunately, we are witnessing both shifts in the positions and excessive demands, and we are also witnessing that a number of countries (among world powers) have different stances, and this has made the situation difficult," Zarif said, according to Iran's Tasnim News Agency.
Iran and Russia this week demanded that conventional weapons and missile embargoes be among the sanctions lifted in return for curbing Iran's nuclear program. The United States, Britain, France and Germany oppose such a move, but Russia and China both want the embargo lifted so they can sell ballistic missiles and other weaponry to Iran.
On Thursday, Secretary of State John Kerry said "tough issues remain unresolved" in talks to curb Iran's nuclear program, and the United States is prepared to walk away if they're not settled. "We believe we are making real progress toward a comprehensive deal," Kerry told reporters. "But... we are not going to sit at the negotiating table forever."
"If, in the end, we are to reach a deal, it has to be one that stands the test of time … a test for decades," Kerry said, adding he would not be rushed to reach a deal.
Many members of Congress skeptical of making a deal with Iran have urged the Obama administration not to be bound by deadlines and to focus on getting a good agreement.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said the effort will last as long there is progress. If "there does not seem to be a constructive engagement on the part of the Iranians to resolving the remaining sticking points in the negotiations, then the president won't hesitate to bring his team home," Earnest said.
The deadline for the current round of talks was extended from June 30 to Tuesday and then to Friday. Many differences were resolved, but the talks snagged on two sensitive issues. The first is the sequence of lifting sanctions and whether they could be easily restored if Iran doesn't comply with its obligations. The second is whether sanctions relief would include international arms embargoes on Iran.
Each deadline extension also continued the conditions agreed to in November 2013 that required Iran to limit its nuclear activities while talks are ongoing.
In April, the sides announced a general framework for a final deal that would require what President Obama said would be unprecedented scrutiny of Iran's nuclear program. It also called for restrictions for 10 to 15 years on how much nuclear fuel Iran could produce.
Iran, which would commit to keep its program peaceful, says it needs a very large nuclear fuel enrichment capability to supply current and future nuclear power plants. Many members of Congress and Israel worry that could provide Iran the means to supply a secret nuclear weapon.

EXCERPTS OF MILLIONDAY, TLM724 & STEVE, 10 JULY

7-10-15 Millionday: Article quote: “The Iraqi government plans to issue local bonds worth five billion dollars, starting from the last quarter of this year…“ “The bonds will be issued in US dollars in stages based on investor demand, and investors will choose between receipt of an asset at maturity in dollars or dinars, but at a better price than the market price.”  THEY ARE GIVING A CHOICE OF RETURN IN EITHER US DOLLAR OR IRAQI DINAR -- WOW -- AND ANNOUNCED THAT THE MATURITY WILL PRODUCE A HIGHER RETURN THAN --MARKET PRICE.   CBI WILL DETERMINE IF THE LOANS ARE GIVEN OUT AT A NEW VALUE OR NOT -- I PERSONALLY HOPE A NEWLY CALCULATED VALUE.

[If the bonds will be in 4th qtr...will the rate possibly change prior to then?]  THE DATE OF A CHANGE IN RATE HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED...IT CAN BE CHANGED AT ANYTIME.  WE DONT KNOW WHEN BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN IT MUST WAIT UNTIL THE FOURTH QUARTER.  [...could this be that the Domestic payouts will be in Dinar, and if you were International you could get USD?] YES... THEY STATED THAT IT WILL MATURE AT A HIGHER AMOUNT THAN THE MARKET PRICE...SO THE BONDS WOULD BE ON THEIR MARKET AT THAT TIME...HUGE CLUE FOR ME.  [...would there be any rational reason to give the loans out at the 1166 rate?]  ACCORDING TO MY LOGIC AND ECONOMICS -- IT WOULD NOT MAKE MUCH SENSE FOR IRAQ OR THE ENTERPRISE. 7-10-15 tlm724: Article: "Government intervention of the World Bank as a partner in the formulation of the budget in 2016" Quote:  "adding that  the World Bank agreed to grant the loan in exchange for conditions related to conduct real administrative and economic reforms in the government system," now that is big! The World Bank says yeah we will loan you the money BUT we want in on formulating and implementing the economic plan!  I like that very much! Very Happy. 

7-10-15 SteveI: Listen folks, we are closer than you all think. Hang in there!

MY LADIES CHAT UPDATE, 10 JULY

MY LADIES:  SOMETIMES IF WE LOOK BEHIND US IT GIVES US A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE WE’RE GOING.

THIS IS AN OLD ARTICLE FROM DEC OF 2014 BUT IT SURE ANSWERED A LOT OF THINGS FOR ME AND I CAN SEE EVEN MORE DOTS ON HORIZON NOW.

 TAKE YOUR TIME READ IT SLOW AND REMEMBER WHAT NOVA AND I HAVE SAID ON MANY OF THE CALLS.

 * Reconfiguring Iran-China relations*

Can China maintain its privileged partnership with Iran if a nuclear accord is reached?

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/12/reconfiguring-iran-china-relati-201412154327397122.html
....
As many analysts anticipated, Iran and the great powers, the so-called P5+1 (France, UK, Germany, the US, China, and Russia), fell short of hammering out a comprehensive deal before the November 24 deadline, necessitating a second extension of an increasingly high stakes series of negotiations to July 2015.

MY LADIES:  AGAIN HERE IS A REAR VIEW MIRROR LOOK AT THINGS. THIS IS FROM MAY 2014

 *China, Iran and Russia: Restructuring the global order*


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/05/china-iran-russia-restructuring-201451964119463320.html

 Powerful countries are alarmed by the threats against Russia as they see themselves as potential future targets.

Countries with major oil and gas reserves such as Russia, Iran and Iraq are already turning eastward

 At the Fourth Summit of the Conference on Interaction and Confidence-Building Measures in Asia (CICA) that opens May 20 in Shanghai, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani will meet with both Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Among other things, the summit will underscore how rising non-Western powers are playing ever more prominent roles on the global stage. However, Western elites remain stuck in a time warp, wherein the United States and its European partners are the imperial masters of all they survey.

 In this regard, it is an interesting coincidence how mainstream Western media outlets consistently produce narratives that are almost indistinguishable from official government statements regarding countries and leaders with dissimilar worldviews from their Western counterparts. For instance, we repeatedly hear about the democratically elected "dictators" in Venezuela, yet we are assured that friendly dictators are "moderate reformers".

MY LADIES:  OK SO READ THIS ALL SLOW AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND I AM NOT TRYING TO BE AN ALARMIST OR TRY TO SENSATIONALIZE ANYTHING, THESE ARE THINGS I WANT YOU ALL TO BE ARMED WITH FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.

 *World powers and Iran 'on verge of nuclear deal'*

Officials say world powers and Iran are close to a nuclear deal that would end 12-year dispute over Tehran's ambitions.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/world-powers-iran-verge-historic-nuclear-deal-150709135007913.html

Iran and six world powers meeting in Vienna are said to be  close to an historic nuclear agreement that could resolve a dispute that lasted more than 12 years over Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

 Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said on Thursday that he could not rule out the possibility of an agreement in the coming hours, even if there was still doubts over some of the finer details of the deal and if it could be resolved by the end of the day.

 Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi said the main text of the agreement, as well as five technical annexes, were "around 96 percent complete."

 While the lifting of sanctions was largely agreed, Araqchi said Tehran's demand for an end to a UN Security Council arms embargo was among the most contentious unresolved points.

 MY LADIES:  READ ALL THOSE WORDS PLEASE AND USE THEM WITH WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PLEASE. THE PICTURE SHOULD BE GETTING CLEARER.

**********

 [7:48:48 AM] Princess DD: Iran Sanctions are getting delayed again. They are  wanting to join BRICS Nations. Iran is  trying to ditch the dollar in its international transactions – a goal which was echoed by President Vladimir Putin on Thursday.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/07/10/419623/iran-asia-trade-europe-exports

[7:50:55 AM] Princess DD: Iran nuclear: Zarif says powers 'changing positions'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33473407

MY LADIES:  OK SO PRINCESS GREAT FIND IN RIGHT ON TIME. THIS IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT LAST NIGHT WHEN I SAID LET’S LOOK IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR.

IRAN HAS BEEN TRADING WITH RUSSIA AND CHINA AND IS JUST ABOUT READY TO TELL USA TO KICK ROCKS.


REMEMBER THIS IS A DEAL ABOUT MONEY NOT NUCLEAR WEAPONS. THERE IS AN AGENDA HERE THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SEE YET BUT I’M PRETTY SURE IT ALL WRAPS AROUND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THE GREATEST UNDERWEAR SWITCH OF ALL TIMES..LOL..

*Iran Asia trade soars amid West's sanctions*

 Iran’s trade with Asia is climbing to new heights as the void left by the Europeans in the wake of sanctions is filled by new partners in the world’s largest continent.

 According to new statistics released by Trade Promotion Organization of Iran (TPOI), about 94% of the country’s exports went to Asian nations in the first two months since March 21.

 Iran’s Asia exports rose nine percent to more than $5 billion in the period versus the similar term a year ago, the official figures showed.

Iran sent 11.92 million metric tons of goods to Asia, which constituted 94.2% of its total exports, TPOI said.

 * Europe accounted for about three percent of Iran’s exports during the period which declined four percent*

 MY LADIES:  THAT’S JUST 3% OF EXPORTS TO EUROPE NOT VERY MUCH OVER A LARGE SCALE.

 In the absence of viable ties with Europe, Iran has sought to forge closer relations with the bloc of emerging economies known as BRICS which includes Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

MY LADIES:  -WELL THERE IT IS! ARE WE SURPRISED AT ALL???

BRICS is currently holding a summit in the Russian city of Ufa, with President Hassan Rouhani attending the event as a special guest.
 The bloc accounts for approximately 40% of the world’s population and 20% of the world’s gross product.

MY LADIES:  SO THE FOREIGN MINISTER IS VIENNA IN A WESTERN POWER STRUGGLE AND THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN IS IN RUSSIA BEING HONORED AS A SPECIAL GUEST.

 SO I WONDER HOW THIS WILL TURN OUT. REMEMBER THE REAR VIEW MIRROR; IT WILL PREDICT WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD.

 *BRICS’s ideals are also in sync with those cherished by Iran*, which call for an “equitable, democratic and polar world order” not dominated by the West or the US dollar.

 Iran has been trying to ditch the dollar in its international transactions – a goal which was echoed by President Vladimir Putin on Thursday.

 The Russian leader said his country was interested in using national currencies with other BRICS members after agreeing on such an arrangement with China.

 MY LADIES:  THIS IS WHAT WAS SIGNED IN THE BRICS MEETING ON THE 7TH

THE USE OF THEIR OWN CURRENCIES.


 China and India are two of the largest importers of Iranian oil and those exports have soared after the announcement of the Lausanne nuclear understanding.

 For the Chinese, Iran represents a crucial part of a massive economic plan to revive the Silk Road. Iran is also a huge market which offers Asia enormous investment opportunities.

MY LADIES:  AND POOF THERE IT IS!!!

WILL IRAN BE FORCED TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT KNOCK THE WEST RIGHT OF THAT SILK ROAD???


 I THINK MY CRYSTAL BALL IS GETTING A BIT CLEARER. HOW ABOUT YOURS??

 NOW LOOK HERE WHAT WE HAVE IS THAT AN AGREEMENT THEY JUST SIGNED???

 *India ‘resetting’ Iran ties despite sanctions*

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/06/24/417273/iran-india-trade-ties-sanctions-http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/06/18/416422/iran-europe-west-trade-akhoundi

 India has begun mending ties with Iran despite uncertainty surrounding nuclear negotiations between Tehran and the P5+1 countries, the second Indian English-language daily The Hindu wrote on Wednesday.

 “After cutting down oil imports from Tehran in the recent past following sanctions, India is now keen on pushing for connectivity with Iran, which will pave the way for its entry into Afghanistan and the Central Asian region,” the paper said.

MY LADIES:  IT’S THE SILK ROAD RIGHT?? OK SO FOLLOW CLOSELY

India signed a memorandum of understanding in May for development of the strategic Chabahar Port in southeast Iran. A commercial accord is still needed to implement the pact. New Delhi says it will use terminals in the port to operate container and multi-purpose cargo ships.   

MY LADIES:   INDIA WILL USE THE PORTS IN IRAN FOR CARGO SHIPS, WELL HOW ABOUT THAT? ARE THINGS GETTING CLEARER FOR YOU GUYS?? ARE YOU SEEING WHAT IS SLOWLY HAPPENING?

 The Hindu said New Delhi had ignored warning from the US not to rush into trade agreements with Iran before a nuclear deal was clinched with Tehran.

MY LADIES:  THE WEST TRYING TO CONTROL ALL THINGS AGAIN ARE BEING IGNORED.

 India is also indicating increasing interest in the North-South Transport Corridor which includes a network of ship, rail and road routes connecting the Central Asian nations and Russia to the Persian Gulf via Iran.

 The Hindu indicated that India will attend a follow-up meeting scheduled for July to further *streamline work* related to the corridor.

MY LADIES:   SO THIS IS ALREADY DECIDED, THEY ARE GOING AHEAD WHETHER SANCTIONS ARE IN PLACE OR NOT. AND LOOK AT THE ILLUSTRATIONS IN THE ARTICLE, THIS MOVE TIES TOGETHER A LARGE PIECE OF THE ROAD.

The Hindu said India, however, must look beyond trade and economic ties with Iran. It quoted former diplomat M. K. Bhadrakumar as saying that India would need to “work doubly hard to undo the damage caused by toeing the US line.”

 He said India should not have allowed its relations with Iran to decline despite the sanctions. “Before the sanctions, economic ties between India and Iran were growing exponentially,” he said.

MY LADIES:   TOWING THE US LINE HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC FOR MANY NATIONS AND IS A PRACTICE THAT MAY HAVE WORKED BEFORE, BUT NOT ANY LONGER. THE EAST JUST WANTS A BETTER SYSTEM.

 * Europe courting Iran for business bonanza*

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/06/18/416422/iran-europe-west-trade-akhoundi


MY LADIES:  ALRIGHT SO LET’S HAVE A LOOK AT THIS. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NUCLEAR THREATS OR BIG BUSINESS????

 Western governments have started wooing Iran as their draconian sanctions on the resource-rich country – an energy superpower – appear all but crumbling.

 MY LADIES:  I’M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS ONLY.

 FROM FRANCE

Iran is planning a big order for commercial planes in order to renovate its aviation fleet which is creaking under years of restrictions. Akhoundi says up to 400 new aircraft at a price tag of $20 billion will be ordered.

*The Europeans, however, are already stepping up business contacts with Iran, sending delegates to explore trade opportunities*

 AND GERMANY

Last month, Germany hosted Iran’s Minister of Petroleum Bijan Zangeneh for rare high-level discussions about investments in oil, gas and petrochemical industries.

 AND MORE

The French have taken their cue from their neighbor, thus inviting Iran’s transportation minister.

Addressing a conference at the International Diplomatic Academy in Paris, Akhoundi outlined Iran’s plans to spend $25 billion on improving its rail infrastructure and $30 billion on roads and motorways.

 After meeting Minister of Territorial Equality and Housing Sylvia Pinel, the Iranian minister said three French groups will be visiting Iran in the coming two months for transfer of their experience in urban development.

 HOUSING TOO

 Akhoundi also discussed capacities for bilateral cooperation in the fields of air, ground and sea transportation. He said the two sides had reached an agreement in principle to double flights between France and Iran.
Last month, the two countries  *signed six cooperation agreements for a series of projects*  in livestock and fish farming and exports of organic Iranian products to the EU as a senior representative of the French agriculture minister visited Tehran.  

MY LADIES:   ALRIGHT NOW WHY DO I WANT YOU TO KNOW ALL THIS?? WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH IRAQ AND OUR INVESTMENT???

 LOOK THERE IS NOT A SINGLE ROOM OR FORUM OR BLOGSPOT IN DINAR LAND THAT GIVES YOU WHAT NOVA AND I DO. WE HAVE NO AGENDA WHAT SO EVER AND WE ASK NOTHING IN RETURN FOR WHAT WE PROVIDE.

 I WISH EVERYONE IN DINAR LAND HAD THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE INSIGHT THAT THIS ROOM DOES. NOVA AND I HAVE SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MANY FOLKS OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT PREPARED FOR WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

 THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN THIS INVESTMENT OR HAVE LEFT THIS INVESTMENT OUT OF SHEER FRUSTRATION. THE DAILY PUMPING OF ANY MIN OR ANY SECOND MAKES INTELLIGENT THINKING PEOPLE START TO SECOND GUESS THEIR SELVES AND THEN YOU COMPOUND THAT WITH THE BANKS CALLING THIS A SCAM AND MANY FOLKS WALK AWAY OR DO NOT GET INVOLVED.

 THE DINAR IS A CURRENCY IT IS NOT A SCAM. THE PRACTICES AND SOME OF THE NONSENSE SURROUNDING THE DINAR BORN FROM UNSAVORY PEOPLE PREYING UPON THE UNKNOWING IS THE SCAM. WITH ALL THE PROMISES OF HIGH RETURNS AND SPECIAL RATES AND PLATFORMS AND SPECIAL GROUPS THAT IS WHERE THIS INVESTMENT STARTS TO TURN MUCKY.

NOW LOOK NOVA AND I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS THE OTHER NIGHT,

FOR THE FOLKS IN DINAR LAND AND US TOO THIS INVESTMENT IS GOING TO CHANGE OUR LIVES WHEN THE DINAR STARTS TO TRADE RIGHT??


THIS IS A WAY TO ACHIEVE GREAT WEALTH RIGHT??

WELL GUESS WHAT FOR LARGE INSTITUTIONS AND HEDGE FUNDS AND BIG BUSINESS THIS IS NOT A WAY TO GET RICH. THEY HOLD CONTRACTS AND REAL ESTATE AND FUTURES IN IRAQ AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS JUST ANOTHER PAGE IN THEIR PORTFOLIOS. WHY IS THAT?


BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT AS AN ABSOLUTE THAT THE DINAR WILL TRADE AGAIN ONE DAY.

 SEE FOLKS GET WRAPPED UP IN THE GET RICH RIGHT NOW WAY OF THINKING THAT THEY GET FRUSTRATED WHEN IT DOESN’T HAPPEN “RIGHT NOW” AS PROMISED.

THEY CAN NOT SEE PAST THE HYPE OR SEE THE AGENDA BEHIND THE HYPE SO THEY BECOME DISILLUSIONED AND SOME WALK AWAY WHILE SOME JUST STAY IN A STATE OF DEPRESSION TRYING TO HOLD ONTO ANY GLIMMER OF HOPE.

 WELL NOVA AND I ARE TRYING TO GET YOU TO SEE PAST THE DINAR MAKING YOU RICH. WE WANT YOU TO NOT RIDE THE EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER. WE WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD WORKS.

 WE WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND BANKING, AND GLOBAL TRADE, AND POSITIONING OF WORLD POWERS.

 YOU SEE IF YOU READ AND YOU UNDERSTAND THEN THERE IS NO CHANCE YOU WILL BECOME DEPRESSED OR DISILLUSIONED.

IF YOU TURN OFF ALL THE PROMISES OF SPECIAL RATES AND PRIVATE DEALS AND PLATFORM TRADING AND YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WORK IN THE REAL WORLD THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO SEE VERY CLEARLY THIS IS A SOUND INVESTMENT.

WITH EVERYTHING WE ARE LEARNING EVERYDAY AND I KNOW SOME OF IT CAN BE LONG IN THE READING DEPARTMENT, BUT IF YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR INVESTMENT AND OPEN YOUR MINDS AND TURN OFF THE DRAMA WITH THE LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE THAT NOVA AND I PROVIDE YOU SHOULD BE OVER THE MOON SILLY RIGHT NOW UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

THERE IS NO WAY IRAQ WILL REMAIN IN ISOLATION, THEY WILL DEFINETLY BE COMING TO THE WORLD STAGE SOON.

NOW UNDERSTAND ME VERY CLEARLY I AM NOT SPEAKING TO VALUE. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE DINAR WILL TRADE AT. NO IDEA AT ALL.  I KNOW BASED ON BANKING, TRADING, AND GLOBAL ECONOMICS THE DINAR WILL TRADE AND SOON IT NEEDS TO.

THERE IS A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM RIGHT UP THE ROAD A STRETCH AND EVERYTHING YOU ARE LEARNING AND ALL THE LONG ASS ARTICLES I AM POSTING AND ALL THE NEWS REPORTS PRINCESS BRINGS IN AND EVEN THE IRAQ NEWS THAT BANDITO CAN NOT LEAVE ARE ALL POINTING TO THE NEW SYSTEM AND THE TIME FOR THAT IS RIGHT NOW!

SO PLEASE HANG IN THERE EVERYONE AND GET EXCITED

GET VERY EXCITED BUT BE VERY CAUTIOUS TOO, REMEMBER ALL THAT YOU ARE LEARNING AND JUST SAY NO TO THE DRAMATIC NOISE OUT THERE AND SAY NO ANYONE TRYING TO GET YOU INTO ANY DEALS OR TRYING TO TAKE YOUR DINAR.


I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING YOU LONG ARTICLES AND GIVE YOU LONG EXPLANATIONS AND NOVA WILL CONTINUE TO TALK TO YOU ON THE CALLS BECAUSE TYPING IS NOT HIS STRONG SUITE AND YOU WILL CONTINUE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THIS HAS TO DO WITH IRAQ!

SCZIN11 & CHATTELS CHAT UPDATE, 10 JULY

GJMAN: I don't remember where, but an international banker said they won't get a credit rating until they have released their currency into the international market, didn't say it necessarily means at a different rate, but it was implied, we will see

chattels: Your moment has come, Mr Tsipras, take back control of your country - UKIP leader Nigel Farage

chattels: m.youtube.com/watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94UcyJnRcGU&app=desktop

chattels: Crushing the Islamic State Militarily Comes First By DAVID ROMANO

chattels: rudaw.net/english/opinion...

http://rudaw.net/english/opinion/090720151
chattels: Mr. Obama apparently thinks a different emphasis in the fight against ISIS is warranted: “This is not simply a military effort,” he said. “Ideologies are not defeated by guns. They're defeated with better ideas.”

 He added that “In order for us to defeat terrorist groups like ISIL and al-Qaeda, we must discredit their ideology….This larger battle for hearts and minds is going to be a generational struggle.” Perhaps U.S. officials citing the right suras from the Quran will cause a revolutionary shift within ISIS?

chattels: Someone needs to remind the U.S. president that fascism in Europe was not defeated with a more convincing argument. On the contrary, the NAZIs and their ideological kin were crushed with military force.

After that task was complete, former fascists cast about for a new ideology. The likes of West Germany found liberal democracy and capitalism with generous financial aid in the form of the Marshall Plan.

 East Germany and others found Soviet Communism (in many cases, such as Hungary and Czechoslovakia, Soviet tanks helped people find the new ideology). Some fifty years later, the Soviet Union collapsed not because of a more convincing argument, but rather due to the failure of its economy.

chattels: Iraqi private banks association announced that the Cabinet approve the anti-money laundering law will give confidence to the global private banks, stressing that banks will adhere to the law.

chattels: ......... and that the law would give "confidence global in foreign dealings with Iraqi banks."

chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...

http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=971

chattels: WASHINGTON DC - General Joseph Dunford, the nominee to serve as the next chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that he envisions Iraq breaking into two separate Kurdish and Shiite states, but was uncertain about a Sunni portion.

“From my perspective, I can imagine two states in Iraq,” Dunford said Thursday during exchanges with senators at his confirmation hearing in the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“I have difficulty imagining a third separate state, given the lack of resources that would be available for the Sunnis,” said Dunford.

chattels: “Frankly, I think from a pure economic and resources and governance perspective, the Shiites and Kurds are much more equipped to set up separate states than the Sunni would be,” Dunford said in response to questions put to him by senators.

chattels: Asked whether Kurdish forces are receiving US weapons delivered through Baghdad in a timely manner for the war against the Islamic State (ISIS) group, Dunford said his understanding is that the issue of weapons delays has been resolved. He said that, if confirmed in his position, he would follow up the issue personally.

“This issue is so important that I will look into it personally,” he said. “As the matter of fact I will go there (the Kurdistan region) and visit and will make my own personal assessment based on the facts on the ground,” he added.

chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr...

http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=109&pid=1991#pid1991

chattels: Is Maliki making a comeback? While serving his second term as prime minister in February 2011, former Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told AFP he did not aspire to serve a third term.

 He averred that “the premier who has a program, and is efficient, does not need more than eight years to effectively implement it. If this is not the case, why, then, give him more than eight years?” Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/07/iraq-maliki-third-term-sectarianism-sunni-shiite-power.html#ixzz3fUDmG4FD

chattels: Former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is being criticized for sowing sectarianism and using animosity among various Iraqi factions as a way to find a way back to power. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...   

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/07/iraq-maliki-third-term-sectarianism-sunni-shiite-power.html#ixzz3fUEAqR3t

http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=974

chattels: Iraq's autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) is pushing to control all oil sales from Kirkuk province – a further sign that a cooperative oil export and revenue sharing deal with Baghdad has disintegrated.The federal North Oil Company (NOC) is continuing to pump about 150,000 barrels per day (bpd) from Kirkuk fields into Kurdistan's autonomous pipeline to Turkey, according to both federal and KRG oil officials.                           

http://www.iraqoilreport.com/news/krg-extending-control-over-kirkuk-oil-exports-15172/?utm_source=IOR+Email+Update+Subscribers&utm_campaign=d6d61c4645-Email_Update&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f9870911e6-d6d61c4645-192866317

chattels: The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) is moving forward with a plan to raise money for stalled infrastructure projects by issuing bonds. www.iraqoilreport.com/bey...

chattels: if the KRG is planning a bond issuance then how strong a connection can there be between the Iraqi bond issuance and monetary reform ?

chattels: I wonder to myself

sczin11: ‹@chattels› IN BOTH CASES, SHORT TERM, IMMEDIATE LIQUIDITY, IS THE BASIS, IMHO

sczin11: MONETARY REFORM WILL NOT PROVIDE IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR ANYONE BUT US

sczin11: I SHOULD SAY COMPLETION OF MR...ABOVE

chattels: if i understand your point then i do not disagree, but my point, however shallow, is that the bond issuance may not say anything about our event

chattels: as i understand it a bond offering is a contractual undertaking and like any contract it may provide for the terms of return and the currency to be used, etc. ????

sczin11: ‹@chattels› AGREE... THE ONLY POSSIBLE SIGNIFICANCE TO THE COMPLETION OF MR W REGARDS TO BOND ISSUE, WOULD BE THE NECESSITY

sczin11: OF A CREDIT RATING

sczin11: WHICH IN TURN WILL LURE BIG DOLLARS INTO THE COUNTRY

chattels: so the statement that Iraq must have a internationally accepted / traded currency before there can be a bond issuance is fallacious ?

sczin11: AS A DIRECT CONNECTION, BOND ISSUANCE TO MR COMPLETION, IMHO, YOU ARE CORRECT, NO CONNECTION THERE

chattels: ‹@sczin11› thank you

chattels: ‹@sczin11› whoop - t - doooooooooooo :)

sczin11: ‹@chattels› THEY HAVE ALREADY STATED FIRST ISSUANCE WILL BE IN COUNTRY DINARS...SECOND WOULD BE GLOBAL, WITH CHOICES, DINARS OR DOLLARS...THAT IS THE TRANSLATION MANY ARE FOCUSING ON

whitelions: ‹@sczin11› I agree by holding the bond they mature with age b/c that's what bonds do and that's what the people buying them are counting on .

sczin11: HOW CAN A COMPANY IN ITALY BUY BONDS THAT WOULD BE REMITTED IN DOLLARS OR DINARS, WITHOUT INTL TRADEABLE/RECOGNIZED DINAR?

whitelions: it's like getting in on the ground floor of apple if I had the money I'd buy them

whitelions: what is untradeable about the dinar?

[08:03:41 AM] sczin11: ‹@whitelions› YES... THE MATURITY DATE IS PROBABLY MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN ANY OTHER DATA W REGARDS TO THE BONDS

sczin11: ‹@whitelions› NOT MUCH IN REALITY, OTHER THAN LARGE EXOTIC CURRENCY CHANGER FEES

chattels: ‹@whitelions› i cannot exchange my dinar for dollars at the bank

sczin11: ‹@chattels› EXACTLY

whitelions: thats true but you can trade it at a currency dealer at any time

sczin11: ‹@whitelions› IT IS BASICALLY TREATED BY THEM AS COLLECTIBLES, AS OPPOSED TO A CURRENCY IN USE IN A COUNTRY

chattels: ‹@whitelions› which makes it a private transaction only and without a " par " value

whitelions: granted the trade rate is more at a dealer and the only reason well I should say the mane reson you can't tread them at the bank is they don't make ENOUGH money off them that and the gurus over the years calling it everyday forseing people to call the banks so not so nicely is why the banks don't sell it anymore I bought my first dinar from a bank

sczin11: ‹@chattels› ‹@whitelions› HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE, IMHO....IF THE SECOND WAVE OF BOND ISSUANCE, AS THEY HAVE DESCRIBED , DOES IN FACT OCCUR TWO POINTS SHOULD BE REALIZED....

chattels: query ? is the son of Maliki recently mentioned in connection with sexual harrassment charge(s) different from the one connected with the funds in Jordan, or wherever ?

sczin11: THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WORLDWIDE WOULD RECOGNIZE THE IRAQI DINAR

sczin11: AND

whitelions: ‹@chattels› no same one

chattels: ‹@whitelions› ty

sczin11: THE CREDIT RATING SHOULD BE ISSUED BY THE THREE MAIN REPORTING AGENCIES

sczin11: THE FIRST WAVE IN COUNTRY, IMHO, DOES NOT REQUIRE OR IMPLY THE COMPLETION OF THE ABOVE TWO POINTS

chattels: ‹@sczin11› i should have copyrighted my " Godspeed " phrase about banking sector reform in Iraq so i could sue the " three letter buffoon "

whitelions: lol

chattels: Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"— Isaiah 6:8

chattels: once more into the breach

chattels: i am off to make my corner of the world a better place, i hope and pray

sczin11: Parliamentary oil propose a joint meeting of the governments in Baghdad and Erbil to activate the "oil agreement" and welcomes Kurdistan

sczin11: READ MORE wealthwatch.world/showthr...

http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=975
chattels: Godspeed the completion of the Iraqi banking sector reform project.
chattels: ' ......... a joint meeting of the governments in Baghdad and Erbil to activate the "oil agreement" ......... ' as a heading / title is deceiving as to the content it appears to me

chattels: one could say and argue that there is no good purpose in a new agreement with Baghdad as they never honor agreements anyway

chattels: from the Kurdish perspective it may be that they are continuing giving Baghdad more rope to hang themselves in the court of international opinion

chattels: continually *

chattels: which seems to be working in that increasingly there is international interest ( acceptance ) in / of an independent Kurdistan

chattels: the news chairman of the joint chiefs made some interesting remarks regarding such in the news today

whitelions: ‹@chattels›  lol it usually is I have noticed over the years that the iraq news is in competition with what we call our news rags like the inquirer , the more eye catching the head line the more people will by and read them Maliki's paper is really good at it

chattels: Nominated top US general says he can imagine a Kurdish state in Iraq By Yerevan Saeed

chattels: rudaw.net/english/middlee...

http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/10072015

 chattels: ‹@whitelions› very true i think - the news in / out of Iraq is often polar extremes depending upon the political persuasion of the speaker

chattels: the truth as they say is somewhere in between, eh ?                                                      

chattels: my personal bias favors all things Kurdish

whitelions: thats why you have to read more than one article on the same subject to get the whole picture and you have to read more than just ecom. or gov. to see what is going on

chattels: ‹@whitelions› i agree :)

whitelions: ‹@chattels› I don't have any personal bias unless you take into account that Maliki is on the same footing as Sudom , as far as killing people because he does not like them and wanting to be a dictator

chattels: i confess that i am a Kurd sympathizer

chattels: everyone should acknowledge their limitations and inclinations, IMO

whitelions: I think it will be the kurds that will bring the country out of this quagmire there in

chattels: ‹@whitelions› i have oft stated that my sense is that our venture will stand or fall upon the Kurds

chattels: however biased or naive such a statement may be

whitelions: but for them fighting for equal rights iraq would be as lopsided in power as if they where still under a dictatorship

chattels: ‹@whitelions› largely so although some credit needs to be assigned to the good religious influences

 whitelions: and yet they hold 80 % of the wealth of the country and not just oil but minerals fertile land vital ports

chattels: ‹@whitelions› I am thinking of Sistani here

chattels: bbl

whitelions: ‹@chattels› your right religion holds a big part in the snails pace but it has also made leaps and bounds in the past few months