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Thursday, March 5, 2015

OMEGA MAN, TLAR, TONY & DC UPDATES, 5 MARCH

S3A
  • got an email from A group. says to be on the sharp look out...it's gonna be real soon...
    halleleujah
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  • 3-5-15 Tlar: The article implies that the zeros that are being deleted are not the zeros on the currency.

  • She reiterates that they are going to "delete the zeros" and then "restructure the currency".

    If this was a move to lop she would definitely have stated it differently.

    She might have said something like we are going to delete the zeros off the currency.

    It is understood that if you delete the "leading" zeros off the nominal rate, that it follows you would have to restructure the currency.

    Phrasing here is very important as it allows us to see inside the project exactly what they are going to do. Of course this assumes she is an insider with accurate information.

    The way she phrased it, it is an RV only.  If it were a float only, again she would have phrased it differently maybe saying something like the intentions are to allow the currency to get to a dollar and when it does we will restructure the currency.

    She certainly thinks and talks like she is an insider with accurate knowledge of the project, but the question remains she is privy to the actual rate or is just stating this because it has a long time goal of Shabibi's.

    Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", "delete the zeros includes two basic objectives", "the deletion of zeros", and the "restructuring of the Iraqi currency"
  • 3-5-15 TNT Tony: On Iraqi television right now they are saying it will revalue in the next few days and it will be the strongest currency in the region. Qi cards got funded electronically, and they have converted the rate.
    We have been informed that on Sunday their banking system will be able to do wires and transfers in Iraq and internationally. We don’t have to wait until Sunday, but everything will be done when it goes into effect on Sunday.

    All the meetings went well and everyone has been given that green light. Worst case, everyone in Iraq expects this to be done by Sunday when the new banking laws come into effect. 
    3-5-15 DC: East to west – life looks really, really good.  I’m very excited about many things.  Tikrit is looking very successful, now in the control of the IDF.  It’s not 100% clean and clear, but they control most of it ahead of schedule.

    Great job!  What that means is that we are ready to go at any time – ANY time!
    In Tikrit, they got most of the people out on Sunday, almost entirely Iraqi-driven.  They did a wonderful job. They did take some casualties, but very few.  They will spend months cleaning up booby-traps, but Iraq took back another major city from nasty jerks who deserve to die.

    Anything related to military actions we are not going to talk about because it’s not worth risking putting a plan or other people in danger.

    The CBI prepped, with some adjustment to rates and now that that is pushed out to the other major banks.  The rate has been pushed up a bit. They had rates loaded in a week ahead of time, and they continued arguing during the Tikrit action and some got quite passionate about it, but we are just waiting for a conclusion.

    They were using this time as a debate, and they will continue up until the RI and beyond. That’s just what is going to happen and that’s fine.

    The CBI has texted it out to everyone else, and the finance ministry is also ready to move forward. The Ministry of the Interior is getting ready for the RV and fixing up the damage from ISIL.  Defense is also supporting all this.

    The Council of Ministers is also supporting Abadi in getting this done.

    Iraqi television is also scrolling that the Iraqi dinar will increase in value in the next few days.  They have said it before, but we have to get to the one-yard line again.

    We are getting this information from all sides including from our new amazing contacts.

    Everyone is ready for this, in the government and elsewhere;  they were mainly watching Tikrit and also debating a few other things. But they are ready.

    In the US, they are supporting what’s going on.  In the past, they haven’t supported Iraq as much, but now they are highly supportive.

    The banks are really pissed, trying to get this done. Some are trying to get people in early for SKRs.

    Actual exchanges have diminished to almost zero in the last few weeks because the expectation is that the RV is upon us. Most are just frustrated and aggravated, like the rest of us. They will be notified after it gets done – some banks will take 4-5 hours, and some will take a day to get this done.

    We are told that we (and the US banks) will not get information until this goes down.  Dealers often get a little advance notice, and the major ones get notice first, up to 72 hours beforehand so they can protect themselves as best they can.

    They cannot tell their clients, of course.  The dealers are now being told that they will be notified 15 minutes after this happens, so they are not too exposed.

    Our anticipation is that this gets done in the next few days.  Tikrit is going well, everyone is ready, and we are just waiting.

    We will be able to do at least one call when this happens, so bye for now!

MAILMAN17 UPDATE, 5 MARCH

Mailman17   NO WHERE IN HISTORY HAS A NATION RELEASED THEIR NEW DENOMS ONE BY ONE...EVER.

THE SMALLS WILL COME OUT TOGETHER INCLUDING THE FILS AND 10 CENTS IS NOT AN OPTION IMO.  

 AS FAR AS THE 50 DINAR NOTE IS CONCERNED...ASSUMING THEY GET A RATE OUT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR AT LEAST WITHIN THE SUPPOSED 60 DAY MARK, I DO NOT SEE CASHING THEM IN AT YOUR LOCAL BANK WILL BE A PROBLEM...

ON PAR HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PLAN FROM DAY ONE.
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WHEN AND IF THE BUDGET IS TRULY RELEASED, AND FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED, TEN CENTS AND A FLOAT WILL NOT SUFFICE. THEY NEED TO COME OUT STRONG.

NOW, IF THEY WANT TO GO BY THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN AND MANAGE A FLOAT FROM A 1-1...THAT IS VERY POSSIBLE.

 IRAQ HAS A GREEN LIGHT AND I SEE THEM LAYING RUBBER WITH THEIR ECONOMIC AND MONETARY PROBLEMS IN THEIR REAR VIEW MIRROR...JMO.

Mailman17   DOESNT IT SEEM ODD THAT OF ALL THE BILLS IRAQ IS WORRIED ABOUT IS THE ALMOST NON EXISTENT ONES IN THE ACTUAL POSSESSION OF IRAQIS?

LETS FACE IT..THERE ARE BUT A FEW OF THE ACTUAL PRINTED 50'S IN IRAQ. MOST ARE IN OUR HANDS.

THEY LOOK AT THE 50 LIKE THE COINS...USELESS AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE FROM DAY ONE.

WHENEVER IRAQ NEEDED MORE OF A CURRENCY PRINTED...  THEY NEVER DID THE 50.   WHAT WAS OUT WAS OUT.
BUT...THAT SINGLE DENOM IS ALSO THE ONLY DENOM THAT WILL BE REPRESENTED BY THE NEW NOTES ..........

AND IF IRAQ IS TO START A NEW MONETARY REGIME WHICH INCLUDES A NEW BATCH OF NOTES TO REPRESENT THEIR NEW RATE (WHICH I STILL SAY 1-1)........

THEY NEED TO GET THAT PESKY OLD 50 DINAR NOTE OUT OF THE WAY...THE VERY LITTLE AMOUNT THAT IS PRESENT. 

THEY NEED THE NEW NOTES TO REPRESENT THE NEW IRAQ AND THAT WILL FINALIZE DE-DOLLARIZATION.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CASH IN OUR 50 NOTES AT THE BANKS PENDING IRAQ RELEASING THE NEW RATE ASAP.

I OWN QUITE A FEW STACKS MYSELF AND AM NOT WORRIED... LETS SEE WHAT THEY DO IN THE COMING DAYS..JMO  

S3A CHAT UPDATE & JCR3758 TWEETS, 5 MARCH

Stage3Alpha:

OilRat:  March 5, 2015 at 3:30pm Ok guys here's what I got for today.....I have not signed any NDA yet so I can still say this.....I am part of a small group (with major contacts) for Dong exchange and our private wealth manager from a major bank contacted us today and said to be ready by Monday to exchange.

Chef Rob > OilRat Hope so OR! Thx!

OilRat > Chef Rob Me too.....we have not heard from the wealth mgr for over two weeks, so hoping this is it.

OilRat  > JMO....I do not believe groups will go before all the rest.....so the info I'm telling you means you all will be at the banks as well.....JMO


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JCR3758 TWEETS :

 JC ‏@JCR3758 Ok guys can't share too much cause its sensitive. Let's just say that a certain Fin Minister has been talking to a certain PM about an RV...

 JC ‏@JCR3758 Specifically the release rate to offset debts & budget obligations. They concur. They have also gotten the "thumbs up" from a certain "bank"

 JC ‏@JCR3758 So now the timing for the release is on the front burner. Not giving date/rate but we are sitting in an awesome place...stay grounded ;)

TNT CC CLIFF NOTES , 5 MARCH

TNT CC Cliff Notes - 3-5-15

<intro of a well deserved rant on Goat!....>
T: WHAT'S GOING ON
DC: VERY EXCITED ABOUT MANY THINGS, TWEET FROM DR ABADI. TIKRIT VERY MUCH CONTROL BY IDF WELL DONE HEAD OF SCHEDULE GREAT JOB. IRAQ TERMS OF BANKING READY TO GO ANY TIME DETAILS THAT IS IT
DC: DETAILS, TIKRIT GOT MOST OF BAD GUYS OUT BUT DID IT ALMOST ENTIRELY WITH IRAQI FORCES. FEW CASUALTIES AND WILL TAKE MONTHS TO CLEAN UP BOOBY TRAPS AND OTHER STUFF.
DC: EVERYTHING ELSE IS LOOKING GOOD. MILITARY OPERATIONS WILL NOT BE TALKED ABOUT UNESS IT IS IN NEWS.
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DC: STARTED OUT SUNDAY, SUCCESSFUL OPERATION, DIFFERENT COUNTRIES HELPING. PLAN, CASUALTIES, FEW AMOUNT CREDIBILITY CLEANING BOOBY TRAPS. MUCH WHO DESERVED TO DIE. ISIS VERY SENSITIVE. UNLESS IN THE NEW NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT. NO AMOUNT TO PUT PLAN IN DANGER IF PPL DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT TUFF. CENTRAL BANK RATES BUMPED UP A LITTLE IMF DIFFERENT BANKERS RATE HIGHER RATE ,VERY EXCITED. TONY , ARAB CULTURE.
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DC: CENTRAL BANK IS PREPPED. RATES HAVE BEEN BUMPED UP A LITTLE BIT TO BIS, IMF AND ALL RATES UPDATED. IN AN ARAB CULTURE THEY ARE NEVER DONE ARGUING.
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DC: RATES ARGUED ABOUT AND RAISED. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DEBATE IT CONTINUOUSLY. CBI TESTED TO EVERYBODY. SECURITY IS READY. FINANCE MINISTRY READY.
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DC: STILL WATCHING TIKRIT CLOSELY. CHECKING ISIS RELATED DAMAGE BY COUNCIL OF MINISTRY.
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T - ON TV RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE SAYING DINAR WILL INCREASE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. CBI SAY IT WILL BE THE STRONGEST IN THEIR HISTORY. WE KNOW Q CARDS GOT FUNDED ELECTRONICALLY.
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T - ON TV RIGHT NOW SAYING IRAQ CURRENCY INCREASE IN VALUE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. CBI SAYING STRONGEST CURRENCY IN HISTORY. ON THEIR TV RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD SIGN. QUE CARDS GOT PAID AND FUNDED ELECTRONICALLY. ARTICLE OUT AND CONVERTED RATE. PHONE CALLS FROM PPL SAYING RATE CHANGE GOT PAID THREE DIFFERENT RATES BUT WAS CONVERTED.
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T - SUNDAY, THEIR BANKING SYSTEM CHANGES. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO WIRES AND BE ABLE TO TRANSFER MONEY INTL.
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T - DOES IT MEAN WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL SUNDAY FOR THE RI/RV? NO, BUT THEY ARE BEING TOLD SUNDAY ALL WILL BE IN EFFECT.
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T - RATE WAS CONVERTED OVER HERE. WE GOT PHONE CALLS FROM PPL OVER HERE. I DON'T PERSONALLY UNDERSTAND IT. THEY GOT PAID THREE DIFF RATES, BUT THEY ARE HAPPY. THE TVS ARE SAYING THE RATES ARE GOING TO BE GREAT.
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T - THAT IS THE PLAN, VERY PUBLIC. KNOW SOMEONE IRAQ, CALL OVER THERE AND ASK WHAT IS BEING SAID ON NEWS OR ON TV. GREAT THING. ALL MEETINGS WENT WELL. EVERYONE BEEN GIVEN GREEN LIGHT TO DO THIS. SAYS OVER NEXT TWO YEARS, PPL PANICKED.
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T - EVERYONE HAS BEEN GIVEN THAT GREEN LIGHT. SAYS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, AND THEN PPL PANIC. WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS OVER TWO YEARS. THEY PULLED IN NOTES TO DELETE ZEROS.
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DC - THE 50 DINAR NOTE IS BEING PULLED OFF THE MARKET. IT IS VERY NORMAL BUSINESS. NEED NOT WORRY ABOUT IT. OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THEY HAVE PULLED OVER 95 PER CENT OF THE PHYSICAL CURRENCY OUT OF THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ANTICIPATED THE RV TO HAPPEN THEN.
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DC - 50 NOTE WHY DO WE WORRY ABOUT IT? NORMAL BUSINESS AND NOT WORRIED. OVER YEARS OVER 95% OF PHYSICAL CURRENCY IN IRAQ SHREDDED AND A WAY TO CONTROL CURRENCY A KEEP THE FLOOR. WHAT HAPPENED TO 5% STILL OUT? TURNED OVER LEFT AND RIGHT. ONLY FEW TRILLION LEFT OVER.
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DC - YOU HAVE SEEN ARTICLES ABOUT HOW MUCH TAPE CAN BE SEEN ON THE CURRENCY. IT IS JUST OLD AND WORN OUT. THEN, THE COUNTERFEITERS HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO WORK WITH THIS. SO THE BANKS REFRESH THEIR CURRENCIES.
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DC - 50 DINAR IS GOING TO BE WORTH AT 3.90 NEARLY 200 BUCKS B/C COST MONEY TO PRINT SO TAKING ONE THING OUT OF SYSTEM. B/C 50K USED SO MUCH THEY ARE EXTRA WORN OUT AND TORN SO IT IS GOOD TO TAKE OUT SINCE CONFUSING TO MERCHANTS AND EVERYDAY CITIZENS.
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DC - SO IT IS A NORMAL BANKING PROCEDURE TO TAKE THIS OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
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DC - NEW 25K AND 10K 50K NOTES GOING OUT THAT MEANS IN USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES
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DC - THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT STATES THAT IT WILL TAKE 2 YEARS TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE REMAINING NOTES.
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DC - GOING TO TAKE TWO YEARS TO REMOVE REST OFF SYSTEM, EVEN 1-2-5% THAT IS LEFT. SO OLD NOTES WILL GO INTO CBI AND GET CREDIT FOR THEIR INFO THAT STARTED IN NOV/DEC. ISSUING NEW ONES B/C IN THOSE COUNTRIES THEY USE THE CURRENCY MORE IN BIG BUSINESS. LESS LIKELY TO BUY CAR IN 10K NOTE B/C MORE CASH BASED.
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DC - WHY ARE THEY ISSUING NEW ONES? THEY USE THE CURRENCY A LOT MORE IN BIG BUSINESS. LESS LIKELY TO BUY A CAR IN 10K NOTES BECAUSE MORE CASH BASED THERE.
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DC - THEY THINK MOST PPL MOVE ON TO ELECTRONIC BANKING LIKE MOST OF THE WORLD DOES.
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DC - NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT WHEN THE RV IS TO HAPPEN IN A FEW DAYS. THOSE WHO HAVE 50S WILL HAVE TO EXCHANGE THEM BY APRIL 15TH OR APRIL 30TH.
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T - ABOUT THE USA?
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DC - GOOD OLD USA SUPPORTIVE TO GET THIS DONE. US BANKERS PISSED BEYOND BELIEF, CALLING IRAQ AND OTHER THINGS TO MAKE THING GO THROUGH. SOME TRYING TO GET CUSTOMERS IN EARLY, MORE SKRS. THE NUMBER OF ACTUAL EXCHANGES HAVE DIMINISHED TO ALMOST ZERO B/C THE EXPECTATION IS REVALUATION IS RIGHT UPON US. THEY ARE WAITING FOR THIS TO GET THROUGH.
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DC - THE BANKS ARE JUST WAITING AND ARE AS FRUSTRATED AS US. THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY WILL BE NOTIFIED AFTER THIS GETS DONE.
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DC - SOME BANKS WILL TAKE HOURS TO GET READY, OTHERS WILL TAKE DAYS.
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T - BANKS STARTED THIS WEEK CALLING CUSTOMERS SAYING WILL GET BANK TO YOU AND CALLING THEM TO PREP APPOINTMENTS. SOME BANKS HAVING A PLAN IF DON'T GET DONE BY CERTAIN DATE TO MAKE A OFFER TO MAKE A DEPOSIT AND NOW MULLING THAT OVER. OUR BENEFIT IN DOING THIS IS COMPETITION, OFFER YOU A HIGHER INTEREST RATE.
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T - THIS COMPETITION AMONG BANKS WILL GET YOU HIGHER INT RATES AND BETTER RATES FOR THE CURRENCY. THIS IS NOT A BAD THING. THEY ARE BRINGING PPL IN.
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T - THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROLLER COASTER RIDE WITH US. WE ARE EXPECTING SOMETHING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
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T - WORST CASE, IRAQ EXPECTING SUNDAY AND SHOULD BE GOING ON BY THAT TIME BASED ON WHAT IS ON TV.
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DC - THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, EXPECT IT TO BE DONE BY SUNDAY WHEN BANKING LAWS GO INTO AFFECT.

TNT CC NOTES, 5 MARCH

3-5-15 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):
Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=66803151
Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Thursday, March 5, 2015, and this is a short update call because we didn’t have the regular call yesterday.  It was an unusual day yesterday – yes, it was the anniversary of my daughter’s death, which I usually spend with my family.  WE did have some negative stuff yesterday, but also some good news.  We do understand what is going on.  Before DC gives you the details, we have to get through this part to get to the good part.  We don’t know if this will be our last call or not.  We keep thinking it is the last call, so we give you some strategies, what we would do.  If you are smart, you’ll take that opportunity to ask what you should do, instead of worrying about being at the bank, because that will happen.

I was asked to talk about Mtn Goat.  I don’t usually talk about other gurus, because really I don’t care.  These other so-called gurus – and you don’t even know their real names.   Are they embarrassed or scared to be who they are?  Are they hiding behind internet names?  You may never know who those gurus are… those fake heroes.  They are all based on Tony’s information!   Why don’t they give their own information??  We don’t say “this person said this or that”.  I don’t got through everyone else’s information and say why it’s not true.  These gurus talk about Tony and DC and how our information is wrong;  they come back and tell you that we are basically bought and paid for, that they direct what we say and don’t say, and that they are using us to keep the masses calm so you don’t revolt and do crazy things… They tell you how our information is all screwed up.  They say that the rate will be ten cents, and now say “I always told you the rate would be $3!”  Mtn Goat in particular keeps saying that we are giving you the wrong information, and now that person is jumping on the bandwagon, telling you that this is done (after all) and about the taxes and all that.  We have said for weeks that we will say this all in one day, that this will pop.  Now that Mtn Goat has found this out, it is all true – based on our information.

This is a fluid situation, changing every day based on real life.  We try to bring you the information as it changes every day, based on our sources not on someone else’s sources.  They are bringing out half the information, based on I don’t know what sources.  This is not new.  DC hasn’t even read it, but I got texts and calls and whatnot.  Really?  We have to go through this again?  When you see stuff like this, go back and look at what they said and what I said.  I’m not God – we cannot predict the future,we can only give you the information as we get it and tell you what we think is going to happen.  We get information from many sources around the world.  The plan changed and I will live with that because there is nothing else can I can do.  We have to live with it.  This is what we do.

My name is Tony Renfrow.  You know my name, you’ve heard my calls, and not once have I backed down from the information I gave you.  You know where I live and not once have I have hidden behind an internet name, pretended I live in Germany when I actually live in Oklahoma.  Let them tell you who they really are and see if they will tell you the truth then.  These other people don’t tell you how to exchange, where to deposit your money, where to put your money in various upcoming industries.  They haven’t aught you anything about the people you need to deal with in the future.

Most people in the world just tell you it hasn’t happened.  We are telling you more – how to grow as individuals, how to use and protect your money.  I hope we are telling you how to move to the right or left of those ‘toothless crackheads’.  We don’t control it.  They have called and asked us not to say this or that when it’s sensitive information, for sure.  DC said last night “we can’t talk about that” and that’s okay. They know 47 countries listen to this call.  Every one of our intelligence agencies has a team on our call and so does every  one of these other countries.  People in Iraq are listening to every one of these calls in the internet cafes, and we get calls from the government of Iraq saying “thank you”.  Where do you think we get the information from?  They appreciate it because we are trying to tell the truth.  We did have a fight at one point, and we fought it, and here we are today.

We are not sugar-coating anything.  It’s Iraq’s fight and their decision to make sure it is perfect.  Let’s grow up and think like millionaires.  It’s a tricky situation every day.  There are banks who are totally pissed off because they were told on Monday that it would happen, for the fourth or fifth time.  They are annoyed and threatening to change some things if it doesn’t get done this weekend.  Right now we are all in that boat together for various reasons and we all want to get this done.  We are going to be here until the end, until they say “This is the RV, and this is what to do about it.”  There is really nothing to do… idiots will be idiots.

DC:  I haven’t read Mtn Goat, and I don’t really care.  Unless it’s a specific point, it’s not worth arguing about. It doesn’t matter what that person thinks about me or Tony, it’s about the information.  The gurus bring in the best information they have to help us all out.  They have many reasons they are doing this, and if you don’t like it, don’t listen to it.  If you really dislike me at a person level, or Tony, for whatever reason, then just stop listening.  If you can’t get your head around that, fix your own self and get off our call.  We don’t’ have all the information – if we have 60%, it’s a very good day.  They think they are all-knowing? They are full of crap and you need to run away.  If people want to dislike me, good for them, Hallelujah, goodbye.  Tony and I are both volunteers, nobody is getting paid, let us be who we’re going to be, and let’s get on with the process.  We are under an insane amount of scrutiny, and that means we are both who we are say we are:  two regular guys trying to help out the public, reporting what information we have.  We happen to have the background and friends willing to keep us informed. It’s very simple.

East to west – life looks really, really good.  I’m very excited about many things.  Tikrit is looking very successful, now in the control of the IDF.  It’s not 100% clean and clear, but they control most of it ahead of schedule.  Great job!  What that means is that we are ready to go at any time – ANY time!

In Tikrit, they got most of the people out on Sunday, almost entirely Iraqi-driven.  They did a wonderful job. They did take some casualties, but very few.  They will spend months cleaning up booby-traps, but Iraq took back another major city from nasty jerks who deserve to die.  Anything related to military actions we are not going to talk about because it’s not worth risking putting a plan or other people in danger.

The CBI prepped, with some adjustment to rates and now that that is pushed out to the other major banks.  The rate has been pushed up a bit. They had rates loaded in a week ahead of time, and they continued arguing during the Tikrit action and some got quite passionate about it, but we are just waiting for a conclusion. They were using this time as a debate, and they will continue up until the RI and beyond. That’s just what is going to happen and that’s fine.  The CBI has texted it out to everyone else, and the finance ministry is also ready to move forward. The Ministry of the Interior is getting ready for the RV and fixing up the damage from ISIL.  Defense is also supporting all this.  The Council of Ministers is also supporting Abadi in getting this done.  Iraqi television is also scrolling that the Iraqi dinar will increase in value in the next few days.  They have said it before, but we have to get to the one-yard line again.  We are getting this information from all sides including from our new amazing contacts.  Everyone is ready for this, in the government and elsewhere;  they were mainly watching Tikrit and also debating a few other things.  But they are ready.

Tony:  On Iraqi television right now they are saying it will revalue in the next few days and it will be the strongest currency in the region.  Qi got funded electronically, and they have converted the rate – we have got calls from family members.  They got paid three different rates and it was converted;  today they should get manual conversions.  We have been informed that on Sunday their banking system will be able to do wires and transfers in Iraq and internationally.  We don’t have to wait until Sunday, but everything will be done when it goes into effect on Sunday.  That’s what we are being told and we’ll see what happens.  It’s a public plan.  If you know people in Iraq, call them!  It’s a great thing;  all the meetings went well and everyone has been given that green light.  It said over the next two years and everyone panicked.  We’ve been in the two years already!  They have pulled in the notes already and they are doing away with the 50 dinar notes.  Why are you concerned about that?  You can still exchange until the end of April…

DC:  We’ve seen announcements from the CBI about 50 dinar notes and other denoms of actual notes.  Over 95% of the physical currency has been withdrawn and burned because they anticipated the RV and this gives them more control. There are only a few trillion dinar left, and those notes are getting ripped and worn out.  There have been many articles about how worn out the currency is now, and the counterfeiters have got involved.  Every responsible bank refreshes their currency from time to time, and especially the lower denominations like the 50 dinar notes.   Soon that will be worth about $200.  It costs money to update the notes.  They are taking one thing out of the system – the notes that have been used the most so they are really a mess.  It’s confusing to merchants and citizens when the currency notes are that beat up.

Then people see that there are new 10K, 25K and 50K notes being issues.  Well, we mostly hold those denominations in the older design with lower security features.  Iraq announced that it would take about two years to remove the rest of these notes.  Eventually our old notes will go to the CBI – that started in November 2014.  They are issuing new ones because in Iraq they use the currency more for higher-value purchases than we do in the US.  If you look at how many have been issued, there are fewer than were originally issued because they are worn out and they are moving to electronic exchanges and purchases, especially because they anticipate the increase in value with the RV. They have already started this normal process with the higher denominations.

In the US, they are supporting what’s going on.  In the past, they haven’t supported Iraq as much, but now they are highly supportive. The banks are really pissed, trying to get this done.  Some are trying to get people in early for SKRs.  Actual exchanges have diminished to almost zero in the last few weeks because the expectation is that the RV is upon us. Most are just frustrated and aggravated, like the rest of us. They will be notified after it gets done – some banks will take 4-5 hours, and some will take a day to get this done.

Tony:  Some banks have been calling their customers and setting up appointments in advance.  Some are saying that if they don’t do this by a certain date, they will set up a “pre-deposit” so that when it does happen, they can do it by electronic transfer. If they do that, the banks are creating competition and it’s better for us.  I hope they don’t have to do that, but at least they are upset that nothing is being done and they are ready to do something.  They keep bringing in their people for more training, and they are happy expecting something.  Worst case, everyone in Iraq expects this to be done by Sunday when the new banking laws come into effect.

952 caller:  I’ve been hearing that some of the big groups are changing their process, that they might be doing it locally rather than all going to Reno.  Have you heard anything about that?

Tony:  I feel sorry for you if you’re in a group, and even more if you have turned over your dinar to a paymaster.  If they are telling you that you don’t have to do that any more, that’s a good thing.

Caller: They haven’t taken any dinar or dong from us, but said they would be setting up appointments for us and we would still get the rates the group promised…

Tony:  First I’ve heard about that, and I don’t even see how they could do that.

DC: Nor have I, but I’m glad for you.

Caller:  After you postponed the call yesterday, I was on the line and I woke up this morning with my phone still on the line after 1800 minutes… that’s why I’m first!

574 caller:  Thanks for what you said about the other gurus and their negative posts. I saw articles about deleting three zeros;  is that something that has already started or is it something that starts on Sunday?  Also, I thought Ireland wouldn’t have access to the contract rates because they were not in the original coalition, but I see that Ireland is in the current coalition, so will they have contract rates after all?

DC:  The 35 coalition countries who helped liberate Iraq are on that list, and I don’t believe Ireland is one of them. If you are in Northern Ireland and therefore part of the UK, possibly, but you might have to go to England.  Most everyone can have the international rate, whether that is $3.58 or $3.90.  That doesn’t mean the fight against ISIL – that is a different coalition.  In terms of deleting three zeroes, one dinar is NOT going to equal 1,000 dinar;  if you have a 1,000 dinar note, that will be worth 3,900 USD. They are going to replace notes at a much lower denomination rate.  If I go in with a 25,000 dinar note, they will give me 25 x 100.   [Not sure I heard that correctly.]

Caller:  Are we still supposed to keep the dinar separate?

DC:  I haven’t heard anything different, so yes.

707 caller:  I called the other day to ask about the tier 1 and tier 2 banks.  I called the county bank manager to see if they could think outside the box and do my exchange.  I don’t care that much about the contract rate, and I’d just as soon handle my exchange at a bank where I am used to working them.  Is that a good idea?  It’s not one of the big five, it’s just a small county bank.  The manager said that if it’s a public rate on the screen, then they can do it.  They may or may not charge me the 2%.  I took Tony’s advice that it is better to be prepared than to get ready, and it seems to be falling into place.  I thought this would be helpful for other callers.

DC:  That’s okay, and if it’s more comfortable for you, then you should do that.  They will be using the old Bank of Ireland system, and if they are happy to take a large deposit and not charge you the 2%, then that is great.

Tony:  If they already have a relationship with you, they may well do that for you.

601 caller:  Do you know if the banks are still competing with each other?

DC:  Yes, that is what we hear.  All the banks have certain types of customer that they prefer, whether it’s the smaller denominations, or other a million dinar, within 15 miles or whatever.  They will be competing for those clients.

Tony:  They are going to offer contract rates to the people they think know what to do with the money or will keep it in their banks.  They have told their employees to NOT offer contract rates to clients who do not look professional.  How you dress, act and present yourself is a big factor in whether they offer your contract rates.  Another factor is whether you plan to do something sensible with your money. If you just plan to buy a big car and give it to your family, you will not get the contract rate.  They are not going to give contract rates to those who look likely to run through their cash.  That is what we have been told – that they will only give the contract rates to those who will use, invest or keep their money in the bank for a long time.

DC: So dress like a business person, or throw around four-letter words.  Act like a business person and ask leading questions.  Let them know that you want a long term relationship and to invest the money in a sensible way.  Yes, it’s okay to buy a new house or a necklace for your wife, but show that you’ve been paying attention to us and ask the right questions.  Also, be sympathetic to the bank personnel;  be a nice person, and if you don’t, if you act like a moron, you don’t deserve to get the higher rates.

For instance, for one bank, $7.000 is the maximum you should pull out in cash at one time.  Also, if you have a wealth manager, go directly to the WM and do it through that person rather than calling the 800 numbers.  If your WM doesn’t know about it, ask him or her to call their foreign exchange department and have them call you back in 15 minutes.  They will be informed after the fact.

Caller:  My WM has opened accounts for me, but says he has asked everyone and they don’t’ know anything about this.

DC: That’s good – he is the kind of WM I like to work with because they are not throwing your questions off, but listening and paying attention.  That’s a positive thing.

404 caller:  May this be the last call pre-RV!  I saw an article saying PM Abadi called the UN Secretary General yesterday and I assume it has to do with Tikrit;  is he also looking for the UN’s blessing?

DC:  They got the UN”s blessing 18 months ago.  More likely they are keeping the UN informed of their progress and readiness to move forward.

Caller:  Do you anticipate getting the package before the rate show publicly?  What about the dealers, for those of us who have reserves?

DC:  We are told that we (and the US banks) will not get information until this goes down.  Dealers often get a little advance notice, and the major ones get notice first, up to 72 hours beforehand so they can protect themselves as best they can.  They cannot tell their clients, of course.  The dealers are now being told that they will be notified 15 minutes after this happens, so they are not too exposed.

Caller:  Are contract rates still in play?

DC:  Yes, and we are told to get in as fast as you can.

Caller:  How can we get a preset appointment?

DC:  Some banks are so frustrated they are trying to get people through the system as quickly as possible, for SKRs.

Caller:  How soon can we get cash?

DC:  Normally the banks will allow you 10% cash upfront, meaning money in your account with a debit or credit card.  Within 72 business hours, the rest of your money will be available.  That’s what most of the big banks are saying.

Tony:  Thank you to our transcribers for showing up for this unscheduled call.

DC:  Our anticipation is that this gets done in the next few days.  Tikrit is going well, everyone is ready, and we are just waiting.  We will be able to do at least one call when this happens, so bye for now!

Pam:  This is really about the journey, not the destination.  Remember that you are truly already blessed.

Ray:  This is “There you have it Thursday”;  let’s see what happens.

Tony:  Thank you for all the comments and texts yesterday.  DC called me and said that everyone is in agreement. It’s all done, the date and time is there. Iraq is putting it on their television for the next 2-3 days, telling everyone their banking system changes effective Sunday and they will be the richest country in the region.  I don’t see how they can have international transfers without an international rate. That is the information in the moment.  We are just people trying to do the best we can, telling you the information we have, not fake heroes hiding behind internet names.  If it’s not tonight, we’ll be back tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of your day.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 5 MARCH

3-5-2015   Newshound Guru Adam Montana   [...do you feel that anything less than a dollar would stop the people from using the dinar and cause a major run on the US dollar? It just seems to me that there a so many resources to justify at least a dollar.]  You stated that there are so many resources to justify at least a dollar - I agree, but the reason I propose it will be lower is because they can come out at a dime and then profit on the way up to a dollar via the spread on the exchanges. The CBI makes a profit on every exchange, regardless of which way the dinar goes.

3-5-2015   Newshound Guru My Ladies
   I THINK 3 THINGS WILL HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME...THE BIS WILL SAY GO...THE UN WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF IRAQ HAVING THEIR CURRENCY BACK AND IMF WILL FINISH ARTICLE 8 COMPLIANCES.  [But U forgot 1 thing-WHEN?]  CRYSTAL BALL IS STILL FOGGY.

3-5-2015   Newshound Guru Tlar   Abadi has done a great job in turning the country in the right direction.  It is my belief we will see currency change shortly or the country will financially implode.   

3-5-2015   Newshound Guru Mailman17 
  NO WHERE IN HISTORY HAS A NATION RELEASED THEIR NEW DENOMS ONE BY ONE...EVER. THE SMALLS WILL COME OUT TOGETHER INCLUDING THE FILS AND 10 CENTS IS NOT AN OPTION IMO.    AS FAR AS THE 50 DINAR NOTE IS CONCERNED...ASSUMING THEY GET A RATE OUT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR AT LEAST WITHIN THE SUPPOSED 60 DAY MARK, I DO NOT SEE CASHING THEM IN AT YOUR LOCAL BANK WILL BE A PROBLEM...ON PAR HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PLAN FROM DAY ONE. WHEN AND IF THE BUDGET IS TRULY RELEASED, AND FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED, TEN CENTS AND A FLOAT WILL NOT SUFFICE. THEY NEED TO COME OUT STRONG.  NOW, IF THEY WANT TO GO BY THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN AND MANAGE A FLOAT FROM A 1-1...THAT IS VERY POSSIBLE.  IRAQ HAS A GREEN LIGHT AND I SEE THEM LAYING RUBBER WITH THEIR ECONOMIC AND MONETARY PROBLEMS IN THEIR REAR VIEW MIRROR...JMO.

3-5-2015   Newshound Guru Adam Montana  
  [Once currency is international, won't most banks exchange it?]   Once the currency is international, you are correct, most major banks will be exchanging it.  [Is there a scenario, in your opinion, where Iraq would NOT honor any dinar outside of their country?]   Yes, but it's more complicated than that. Iraq doesn't actually do business "outside" of their country. Every exchange happens at the head desk of the CBI.  If they want to move up in the world, they will raise their exchange rate and start doing business with the major world banks.

3-5-2015   Newshound Guru Millionday
   Article quote: "Said the Iraqi Central Bank, on Wednesday, he has a tendency to increase gold reserves basket, stressing that he shall move the basket almost daily."  CBI WILL BE ADDING TO GOLD RESERVES VERY OFTEN TO SUPPORT THE VALUE OF THE DINAR.  THEY HAVE HUGE RESERVES TO HOLD THE VALUE OF THE DINAR -- THAT IS WHAT RESERVES ARE FOR -- HARD BACKED VALUE AND CONFIDENCE IN THE CURRENCY.  Quote:  "...the CBI independent bank under the law issued on the sixth of March 2004, as an independent body, which is responsible for maintaining price stability and the implementation of monetary policy, including exchange rate policies...THEY ARE REMINDING ONE MORE TIME THAT THEY ARE INDEPENDENT AND ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET THE EXCHANGE RATE.

3-5-2015   Intel/Newshound Gurus My Ladies & NOVA   NO ONE IN IRAQ HAS BEEN PAID ANYTHING. IRAQ HAS NOT ADOPTED A CURRENCY YET. THEY CAN NOT ADOPT 1166 WHICH IS A PROGRAM RATE AND USE IT TO FULFILL THE OBLIGATIONS IN THE BUDGET.  IF WE SEE IRAQ PAY ANYONE AT 1166 THIS WILL SIGNAL THEY HAVE ADOPTED 1166 AS AN OFFICIAL RATE AND WE CALL IT GAME OVER.  SO NO ONE GETTING PAID = GOOD FOR US.  ARE WE CLOSE TO THE END? YES WE ARE, BUT NOT BECAUSE WE SAY SO BUT BECAUSE THE CBI AND THE GOI SAY SO.

3-5-2015   Newshound Guru Tlar
   Article:    "the file to delete the zeros of the Iraqi currency is put into effect, and the World Bank gave the green light to implement it."   It occurs to me that if they can get it done before March 31st, the end of the first quarter, their accounting system can still be made retroactive back to the first of the year.  For accounting purposes, I would think March 31st or anytime before would be the best time to do this for the CBI as they themselves have stated a number of timesThere has been no intel other than the bond issue I reported on 2 weeks back.  It was reported back then that the bonds were being held up and that Iraq would be back and sign the agreement, providing a new rate before they would actually commence sales of these bonds.  Everything seems to be lining up nicely.  Here's to hope

MY LADIES & NOVA CHAT UPDATE, 5 MARCH

BaNDIToRoX:  Like Nova has said a Dinar is a Dinar

Expert: delete the zeros supports the national currency and reduce inflation in the country

BAGHDAD / ... confirmed an economic expert d. Peace Sumaisem, on Thursday, on the importance of the subject of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi dinar, considering it as a support of the national currency, and a reduction of inflation in the country.

Sumaisem said, in a statement to "Ein Iraq News", "delete the zeros includes two basic objectives, the deletion of zeros, and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency, instead of the $ 100 equals 120 000 Iraqi dinars, after deleting three zeros become a $ 100 equals 100 Iraqi dinars, which is equal to the dollar and the dinar This means strengthening the Iraqi currency. "
....
 "The country suffers deficit as Iraq does not it can support its currency unless received grants from third parties, and whether this possible implementation it is important, reframes the value of the currency indirectly supporting the national currency, and when structuring currency returned it reduces inflation Iraq ". Finished / 13

http://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=33283

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Jxxxxx:   Is this article stating what I think it's stating that the deletion of zeros and the restructuring of the Iraqi currency becomes $100 equal to 100 Iraq dinar's?  Did I read that correctly?

Mxxx:  It says a 1:1

JG:  I believe thats in country but 1-1 to start isnt bad

MY LADIES:  OK HOW MANY OF YOU ARE GOING TO GO LIVE IN IRAQ?

SO WHY ARE WE CARING ABOUT THIS ARTICLE IF WE LIVE HERE?

A DINAR IS A DINAR IS A DINAR IN IRAQ, THEY GAVE EXAMPLE FOR THOSE USED TO TRANSACTING THE DOLLAR

A DOLLAR IS A DOLLAR IS A DOLLAR IN USA, BUT IN JORDAN IS DOLLAR IS SOMETHING MORE

Mxxxx:  Well,  I'm not sure that is what it says.  It says that they are "restructurung" and that a dollar will equal a dinar.

MY LADIES:  CORRECT...SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM

Exxxx:  same for them as us  They change 1 dollar in and get 1 dinar worth the new rate   We trade one dinar in and get the dollar worth in the new rate

MY LADIES:  YES Exxxx  CORRECT... SO NOW WE CAN PUT 10 CENTS TO BED

Hxxxxxxxxxxx:  I think most of us are still having a challenge seperating in country and international

PD:  Wow great article. We are really getting there.

Exxxx:   try this. Out of the country it has a value to exchange for the new rate. say $4  In country a dinar is worth a dinar. BUT  compared to the dollar it has the equivelant to 4 US dollars

NOVA:  YOU GOT IT!!!

Exxxx:  Should add $4 of buying power…..but it is still 1 dinar

BanDIToRoX:   NOVA!!!! A DInar is a Dinar is a Dinar

WCxxxxx:  re·mit·tance   rəˈmitns/  noun  plural noun: remittances

a sum of money sent, especially by mail, in payment for goods or services or as a gift.

synonyms: payment, money, fee; More

the action of sending money in payment.

[8:15:50 PM] MY LADIES: OK WE HAVE THAT ARTICLE 3 TIMES NOW...THANK YOU, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING?

[8:16:11 PM] MY LADIES: DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAY THEY'RE SAYING IN ANY OF THESE ARTICLES?

HCL, oil baby!!!!

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Rxxxxx:  But, when they do drop the 000s we have reform

Hxxxxxxxxxx:  Nova would this be for example lets say a loaf of bread in Iraq was 4 dinar after a 1 to 1 in country and a person could then buy with $1 or 4 dinar?  Or am I off?

Exxxx:  Hxxxxxxxxx- Let me try this. Today a pair of shoes is $12 in Iraq  It cost them 12 US dollars or how many per thousands of dinar at 1166    After the revalue if at $4 it cost them 12 US dollars or 3 dinar  would you trade yours in country 1 for 1???  I think so and that is how they will get the dollars off the street as fast as we get the dinar out of our hands.

NOVA:  With the BREAD EXAMPLE, now factor in the PURCHASING POWER ON IMPORTS and the BREAD WILL REALLY COST .25 IQD

MY LADIES:  SO NOVA I GUESS THE TURN 50 DINAR IN AT THAT BANK NOW FOR 1166 GOT TOSSED OUT THE WINDOW

AND I GUESS .10 - .30 WENT WITH IT

WOULD YOU AGREE??? LOL

NOVA:  YES ML I AGREE 100%!!!!!

Hxxxxxxxxxx:  I think I get it Nova--1d to $4  is the same as .25d to $1….in country value

Exxxx:  Hxxxxxxxxx-  1 dinar is worth 1 dinar.  It has equel to $4 US dollars of buying power in Iraq after the revalue……  The peso last year was 10 pesos to the dollar   This year it is 15 pesos to the dollar.  1 peso is still worth one peso.

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MY LADIES:  SO GOOD NEWS TODAY WE HAVE REMITTANCES ON SUNDAY, MECHANISM IN PLACE, AND START THE DELETE THE  ZEROS.

NOW LETS KEEP LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FROM THE CBI.

BanDIToRoX:   Central Bank direct banking customers transfers execution beginning next Sunday

And the Central Bank said in a statement that "banks will implement the transfer of customers from Sunday 8/3/2015, after the completion of all the procedures and mechanisms of these banks."

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ar&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fburathanews.com%2Fnews%2F260632.html

MY LADIES:  OK SO HERE WE SEE IT AGAIN FOR STARTING TRANSFER OF FUNDS ON MARCH 8TH….WELL WHAT A GOOD MORNING THIS HAS BEEN

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MY LADIES:  HA HA HA ...DID WE TELL YOU THE HCL WAS IN THE BUDGET??????????????

WELL LOOK AT THIS...GO AHEAD BANDITO POST IT

BanDIToRoX:   Vice Kurdistan: the oil agreement between Kurdistan and the federal government has already become law

05/03/2015 05:04 | Trend Press - special

MP for the PUK Ardalan Noureddine the latest oil deal between Kurdistan and the federal government has already become law

Ardalan In an interview with the TV channel said that some of the trend speaks about the possibility of agreement or cancel with the fact that this agreement has already become law after a binding for all after he entered in the federal budget for 2015 approved by the House of Representatives recently

The Kurdistan Alliance MP capable Mohammed said in a statement that "the odds of Baghdad and Erbil on the oil agreement, economic reasons in conjunction with the crisis experienced by the country and the need to export larger quantities of oil."

Mohammed said that "what happened last intersection, does not rise to the level of crisis, but rather a simple barrier can be resolved through dialogue," stressing "the determination of the parties to agree on the implementation of the oil clauses full form."

http://aletejahtv.org/index.php/permalink/49245.html

Rxxxxx:  WOOPOW   (Borrowed)

DS:  Now you can go out and take it to the BANK

NOVA:  ITS LIKE A FLOOD TODAY!!!!!!!
MY LADIES:  HOLD YOUR HATS ON THERE'S MORE

Economy


Rasheed Bank announces exchange instruments of the pilgrims and the salaries of retirees of Nineveh and Salahuddin procedures

BAGHDAD / .. decided Rasheed Bank, on Thursday, to facilitate the procedures of the payment instruments pilgrims winners and non-winners in the hot spots (Nineveh / Salahuddin / Anbar) .

A statement of the Ministry of Finance "Eye Iraq News" received a copy of it, the Director General of the Bank Mohamed Abdel Wahab was quoted as saying that "the new regulations issued by the Rasheed Bank allows the citizen review of a number of branches that have been allocated for the disbursement of funds deposited instruments calculates open the pilgrimage at the bank," he said to be allocated to the branches are (Karkh / 23 Karkh district and branch 520 student Rusafa / Alboshjaa 519) and the province of Kirkuk (Babacrker / Branch June 1) and in Anbar province (gray Branch) and the province of Salah al-Din Samarra Branch).

http://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=33293&lang=

MY LADIES:  THEY ARE READY TO DISTRIBUTE FUNDS TOO...

Rxxxxx:   SHUT THE FRONT DOOR

JP:  Jerry McGuire-time!!!!