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Monday, March 2, 2015

MARKZ & S3A UPDATES , 2 MARCH

MarkZ:  A new week

I know many are wondering what happened this time, why is it Monday and we do not have this finished yet… None of us, even the VERY connected will nail the timing. The event is designed that way for safety.

On the positive side we still have great progress, on the private side the buzz and anticipation is nearly unbearable. Are we close? I think so, I am told so but at the same time I am still looking for an event or two before I let myself get all giddy.

In the sandbox they look to be poised more for a RI and a float than a true RV. My best advice is just to buckle up, grab your popcorn and watch closely as we progress. Keep working, keep praying and stay grounded! Close doesn’t pay the bills, work does.

You will have time to rest after this is done. 
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Research your dealers in the interim, I am not convinced many of them will be able to meet their reserve amounts. Quiz them, rake them over the coals or just buy hard currency if you are unsure of their ability to cover their reserve obligations.

Be smart and at least somewhat realistic, which I know is hard to do after drinking the kool-aid, after all I bought all the Black Cherry flavor packs I could find last month when it was dis-continued….

What were they thinking….?!? It was the best flavor ever…… https://dinarinsider.com

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Stage3Alpha:

R.V / GCR: 
 March 2, 2015 at 9:11pm Imo,........ the military was paid in iraq at the new valued rate and imf guidelines point to ten days from an ri ...IMO,.... that puts us at Thursday dusk latest......and IMO.....USA said DO IT.......GRIN,,,,,,TIMBERS


R.V/ GCR: March 2, 2015 at 9:40pm Big Troubles from shakeup with in groups was on the wire today.....Thanks to CHINESE ELDERS today, it was all figured out and we is off and ready to move in the forward fashion.....ROCKSTEADY


  • Imo,........Nope tell her the military was paid in iraq at the new valued rate and imf guidlines point to ten days from an ri IMO,.... that puts us at Thursday dusk latest......and IMO.....USA said DO IT.......GRIN,,,,,,TIMBERS

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Nana: 
 March 2, 2015 at 9:24pm If the Dragon Family is involved in the RV, please take note that tomorrow is a 3/3 date.

The Chinese LOVE 1/1, 2/2, 3/3, 4/4, etc. as numerology is very important to them.

Also, we should take note that the Full Moon takes place on 3/5 at 10:05 a.m. PST.

These are all important times so let's hope that tomorrow is our date.

I have always thought that the RV/GCR would occur during a waxing moon which would be prior to 3/5.  Just my observations . . .

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BaNDiTo.Rox :  March 2, 2015  Tomorrows date

Today the launch of the workers' salaries

3/3/2015 0:00 


Baghdad virgin Hassani
proceed with the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs on Tuesday workers' salaries secured exchange to holders of smart and Wednesday card exchange manual for the months of January and February.

ministry spokesman Amar Menem said "morning": "The Department of pension and social security for workers affiliated to the ministry completed all distribution procedures salaries in coordination with the accredited bank in Baghdad and the provinces, as well as relevant to recipients card offices (Ki Card Smart) for the purpose of workers' salaries exchange secured. "

He said Menem he "was identified Tuesday to divert workers' salaries from the smart card holders and on Wednesday for manual exchange."

He said that according to the law of retirement and social security for workers, the retired who has less than 30 years of service receive a salary of $ 340 000 dinars.

It also said the retired family of the deceased, which has more than three beneficiaries will receive a salary of $ 300 000 dinars, also for two months, while the retired family deceased, consisting of two beneficiaries receive a salary of $ 280 000 dinars, at a time when a retired family receives the deceased that have one receivable monthly pension of $ 260 000 dinars, for only two months.

http://www.alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=88059

R&R > BaNDiTo.RoX Now thats' some GOOD info.And it CLEARLY says: TUESDAY SMART CARDS and WEDNESDAY MANUAL.   Ba-da-dat-dat-da  ... I'm Lovin' it! Thx RoX!

BeepBeep:  > BaNDiTo.RoX Wow!  They are moving forward!  Our turn is coming up.  Thanks Bandito

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J+G:  March 2, 2015 at 7:13pm

i came across this and thought i would share
Reader Joe sees it this way:

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Re: *** Iraqi dinar, recently being said ***

Abadi took advantage of his situation and caused another delay.

Most of you who read online articles already know the score between ISIS and the US, UK and Israel who are supplying them with arms and other warfare needs both in Syria and Iraq.

Sure it was Maliki who invited ISIS into Iraq but we all know who is really behind the funding and the armoring of these so called "rebels" who are just paid mercenaries hired by Israel Mossad or CIA agents.

But it didn't stop Abadi from taking advantage of his situation and push for more help from the coalition forces inside of Iraq. He likely and diplomatically told them that he couldn't allow the RV to happen until more of Iraq was secured from these rebel forces.

Abadi knows how desperate the rest of the world is for some monetary relief from their debt burdens and outstanding payments. Iraq isn't the only ones in dire straights and Abadi knows it.

So what better way to hold off on the RV then to know everything on the Iraqi government side for the RV itself is done but hold off on implementing it knowing that all these countries who will benefit from it would be willing to help in one more big push to devastate ISIS and at the same time prove their allegence to Iraq in their goal to create more stability to their country?

Clever, isn't it? But it also leaves all of us wondering just how long this latest push at these ISIS rebels will now take to accomplish to the satisfaction of the Abadi government.

If you were paying attention to the last Friday's TNT call you would have noticed at the 9:30 min. mark that DC mentioned that the US had stated that if Abadi had any reservations about triggering the RV at all that he should hold off on implementing it.

DC also stated that the IMF and BIS were unsure about when Abadi wanted to trigger the RV and he didn't give any further info on just what that meant.

Isn't the IMF and the BIS supposed to be involved in this up to their eyeballs? So it stands to reason either they are being left out of the loop as to when the trigger is supposed to be on the RV or DC was not giving us accurate info on that particular matter.

If these are the kinds of holes in communications that are on these levels then it's no surprise to me to see this RV stalled back once again.

I don't think this will be a "2 day" operation as Tony had conveyed to us but there is probably no real way to tell just how long this next wall to the RV will take.

Yes it's true that the CBI stopped auctions and thus stopping some money flow into Iraq but that won't necessarily stop them from starting them back up again, right?

Many signs show us that things have gotten done to such a finishing point we never thought to look behind our shoulder at the ISIS problem that's been going on there for almost a year now.

And only now does it seem to be a problem to people?

So now we are being forced to deal with it.

POPPY3 UPDATE & DC HIGHLIGHTS, 2 MARCH

poppy3: OK GOT BACK FOR A MIN AND CAN NOW SHED MORE LITE ON MY GOOD NEWS I AM EXCITED ABOUT. I WAS TOLD IN THE FINANCE MEETING THIS MORNING THAT THE ARGUMENT WAS ABOUT A RATE THAT IS BEING ASKED FOR AND DISCUSSED TO DEAL WITH THE VALUE OF DINAR, AND THAT RATE IN DISPUTE IS IN THE $3.90 CENT RANGE . THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THE OIL MINISTERS ARE WANTING A HIGHER RATE AND THE CBI IS ARGUING TO BEGIN AT A MORE NOMINAL MEDIAN RATE, BUT THE OIL MINISTER SAYS THEY CAN'T MEET PAYMENTS TO THE PRODUCERS WITHOUT THE HIGHER RATE. NOTHING HAS BEEN SETTLED AND IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE MORE DISCUSSION . THEY ARE LOOKING FOR MIDDLE GROUND AND THE WAY TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT BOTH NEED. MEETING NEEDS AND REMOVING THE THREE ZERO'S WITHOUT CAUSING UNCONTROLLED INFLATION THIS IS EXCITING NEWS TO ME BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED THEM TO DO IS FRONT AND CENTER AND THEY ARE IN A HURRY. POPPY3 GET YOUR PRAYER REQUEST IN . POPPY3

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TNT:

DC Highlights From Mon. TNT CC via Adept1

DC: Iraq got up to the plate on Saturday night, lined up and ready to go, and they had a meeting about the RV, taxes, customs rules and enforcement ready to go on 1. March.

They agreed to keep the tariffs and customs rules in place, and not to restart the auctions, but to hold off on the public side of the RV.

They are holding off on who can exchange in Iraq for a few days. For those who don’t care about the details, that is the news, and you can turn off and go back to sleep.


Everyone is waiting on Iraq. Everyone is prepped and ready for the tariffs and they are going forward as expected. We got that information from someone driving a truck over the border, and also from those enforcing those tariffs and fees.

The tariffs are in place throughout the country. The auctions didn’t take place because they have enough for the money. They finished paying Kurdistan, not to pay the police and military and salaries.

They decided several things in that Saturday meeting, and we have some confirmation on one of them. Abadi and his Council of Ministers decided that it would be better to take back a part of Iraq, Tikrit?

The bankers didn’t think that was part of the mix.  We do not believe that they will wait until Tikrit is taken back, they just want a major success to look good before moving forward so they can roll it forward in a big celebration.

One of the strategies is to use the revaluation to soften up the troops. ISIL is paying $190 per month plus food, so this will soften up some places in Anbar and Mosul. So this is part of the military tactics; we don’t talk about that here because everyone is listening to this call, including Baghdad.

That got wrapped into this situation on Saturday night. We don’t know if today’s success was enough. They are playing this by ear. They don’t need to have the entire town be re-taken, they just need some wins on the board. That was not part of the equation until Saturday night.


DC: I’m a bit frustrated – why did this get mixed in at the last minute? When I calmed down, you realize that these things in Iraq are important to them. This does block them into a corner where this absolutely has to take place, between the auctions, banks, tariffs and all. It will happen when Dr Shabibi gets comfortable. We may have to wait a few days, maybe four days.

DC: People say “Oh, it didn’t happen today, so it will be another two weeks” but that is not how it works. This is a daily decision, pushing and pulling, maybe this extra bit would be a good idea. It’s not a giant plan to frustrate us for the last 15 months, it’s a daily back and forth.

This last one was a recommendation to Abadi that they are starting to fight in Tikrit, and maybe it would be a good idea to have a victory or good news. They didn’t want to stop the tariffs and laws, they had enough to pay their soldiers, so… they didn’t have a lot of press, just bad news about ISIL, and they had some maneuvering room.

They are prepared with their procedures and such, and by dealing with the terrorists, they are now in a wonderful spot. Nothing else needs to be done, and with the auctions, they can go at any time.


DC: In effect, with these tariff and tax laws at the new rates, they have blocked themselves into getting this done in a very short time. Also, with the auctions having stopped, they don’t have a lot of cash in hand, so they will have to change the rate.

DC: In the last few months, they all want to make sure this is absolutely perfect, and that brings up a lot of issues. They want to show that the Iraqi defense forces can beat ISIL forces, and that is a big deal. I wasn’t in the meeting, and I don’t get it; it’s crappy news and we just have to deal with it.

DC: I have to go I know this is not the news you wanted, but this is another step towards this being done. This is very positive deal.

They were absolutely ready to go Saturday night. They could and should have done it then.

Watch the news and see what develops. Watch the boards and hopefully we will see this very soon.

SUNNY POST FROM TNT : TONY'S CLIFF NOTES, 2 MARCH

Highlights of Tony's CC.  Updated as the call progresses

SATURDAY NIGHT:  Meeting in Iraq Saturday night where it was agreed to keep the tariffs and taxes in place; not to start the auctions as they have enough funds available to pay necessary people, but to hold off on the public side of the RV for a few days.    

Tony:  I think we're great.  I'm feeling great.  Just waiting for the time for everything to go. . . Everything has been completed.  In US saying it's all done. . . the perfect time is when they feel it is to their best advantage. It's in their hands.
DC:   The RV is part of the military plan.  Absolutely part of the plan.

(daz posted during the call):  "Terrorist leader killed of southern Tikrit Published: 2015/3/2 21:30 Salah-il-Din (Forat) –The volunteers announced killing the terrorist leader, Qusay al-Mosuly, affiliated to what is so called the Islamic State of Iraq and Levant to the south of Tikrit city. Security source reported to Alforat News Agency ''The volunteers succeeded in killing the terrorist leader of Himrean Dam nicknamed, Abo Qutada, of southern Tikrit."  http://en.alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=16715 

Tony commented about the weekend Tweet regarding truck crossing border and paying tariff taxes that, they did not get their information from a two year old, two month old article, but from an actual intel source: someone driving a truck over the border.  Tony, "We tell you what is going on in the moment." 

CURRENT WINDOW:  DC:  Planning on , specifically, for later on in the week for this to go through.  Will be an issue if Iraqi defense forces get nailed.  It sucks, but that's where we are at.  Tony:  We don't have all the information.  Only 60% at a time. . 

Tony:  hearing right now, even as we have been on this call that a time is set this week. 

IRAQ:  In the Saturday meeting Abadhi and Dr. Shabbibi were advised and decided to take back Tikrit to get some successes for the people.  This was a to the bankers.  Didn't want to have celebrations at the same time  hundreds of thousands were being killed. Been massing troops for months and originally planned to do this post RV/RI. Iraq has received loans due to cheap oil and everyone motivated to keep them going.  Tony said it's all still in Iraq's hands.
  • Budget:  Tony: All done, not going to show the other 17 articles until they make announcement . . .not putting it out front . . . until the RV is done.
  • Kurdistan was paid but it depleted them somewhat.
  • Military got paid at new revalued rate all the way back to January.  Citizens, merchants, farmers know this and waiting to get their own cash.  Tony:  People on the street know exactly what is going on and nobody is upset.
  • Banks:  same as last week.  Some open and some not.  Banking laws in place.  DC: they (the Iraq people) are getting the same thing we are getting and they are highly frustrated.
  • Tikrit Fighting:  launched an attack and did not want to do the RV today at the same time.   DC:  They want to show they can push ISIS back. . .I strongly believe they won’t have to completely take back the city.  Just put a few points up on the board.  . . I don’t think we have to wait much longer . . .we have been told, they just want to do something in Tikrit before they do the RV on the International scale. 
  • ISIL - RV is expected to deplete ISIL as they are paying people to be in their army.  Paying them $150 - $190 a month or a free goat to eat.  RV will pay them $400-500 a month.  ISIL canot affort to pay them that much.  Tony: ISIL is losing oil wells, cities, territory. Post RV, the GOI is planning on a lot of the ISIL fighters to go home. 
  • Telling the people, "they are about to get paid at the new rate."
INTERNATIONAL:  Other countries have made loans to Iraq to keep them going until they RV/RI their currency.
  • Rates:  DC heard ZIM could RV as high as .22 with 6 zero lop.  Whatever you've heard about ZIM not being exchanged, remember people have already exchanged so a change in the rules now is highly unlikely.  Dong: DC: If it does come out as low as 8 cents, I will exchange some, buy more dong, and wait for it to rise. . . it could be a few weeks or it could be five years.  
UNITED STATES: 
  • 770 Accounts:  This is like the 2nd time in two days of multiple times the guys have been asked about these accounts.  They keep saying, "We are not financial advisers." And they suggested people go to one.
  • 800#’s/Packages:  The guys still don't have a package.   DC said each bank is going to run their own business as they see fit and to make an appointment with all four of them. DC:  As we have said many times now, each bank will have their own 800 number.  One bank only wants it's own customers and others have different criteria, from vicinity to their location, to amount of funds to be held in their bank.  
  • CAP on contract rates is so more people will have the contract rate available to them.  
  • EXCHANGE, EXCHANGE, EXCHANGE - that is what you are at the bank to do.  DC said someone will be overseeing the process and just waiting for the use or misuse of wording.  DC:  Don't believe someone will be trying to trip us up, but they are waiting for the word. My point is to say as little as possible so I don't step in it. 
 DO NOT get hung up on the terminology, IQN, IQD, ZWR, etc.  
Just say,  "I want to EXCHANGE MY CURRENCY for the HIGHEST rate" and ask to see the screen.
                   DC: I would make an appointment with all the big four, and see if you can get contract rate.       Banks saying to us, we are going to beat them. . . prime contractor.  Shop it! 
CLOSING STATEMENTS:

DC:  Have to go.  Have a great day and hopefully they will get this done.  Know it’s frustrating but not end of the world.  Basically getting themselves in position  . . another step forward in situation.  Very positive deal.  They were ready Saturday night.  Could and should have but didn’t do it.  Watch news closely.  We will see how the rest of the week goes.

PAM:   It’s springtime in Michigan.  10-15 inches of snow.  Sun is out.  I’m sitting outside listening to the call.  I know a lot of you are frustrated with this info.  Don’t’ poop in the punch bowl.  Not in our chat or other chats . . .Don’t take it out on other people.  Be mindful.  Don’t set your hair on fire or do it elsewhere.

RAY:  Continue to enjoy this marvelous Monday and based on what Pam was saying, OM is not a rehab room.
TONY:  Thank you guys,  Thank the mods and everybody else.  Got a text earlier in the call – rest of dinarland saying any second now.  I firmly believe and hearing right now, even as we have been on this call that a time is set this week.  I wanted you to understand why it did not happen this weekend.

I still know everything accomplished except flipping the switch.  Rates were changed.  All around the world sitting on different screens. . . paid the military in that rate. . . you know how they do things 2-3 days apart.  So look for something to happen once we are over this 1st or 2nd day.  Agreements are in place.  Telling us it’s done, done, done – that’s what I heard . . . from different sources. . . completed. . .last thing signed off on . . . flipping of switch . . . hope I wake up to it.  You should be excited.  
Enjoy . . if something happens we’ll send out a tweet.  Enjoy it and if I were you . . . I’d be preparing for it to happen.  That’s a better use of your time.  Just so close you’ll need that.  Hope to talk to you tonight or tomorrow, if not see you Wednesday.   Bye.

Money is just as holy as meditation, just as sacred as prayer.  It is a wonderful part of God.  Neal Donald Walsh
Money won't make you happy . . . but everybody wants to find out for themselves.  Zig Ziglar

JCR3758 TWEETS, 2 MARCH

 @JCR3758: This should prove to be an outstanding week. Once again stay grounded and focused on the prize. Things could move quite fast now. Be ready.

There were forward progress confirmed from Iraq. China is also pushing to complete all steps. There was $/gold movement over the weekend.

All indications point to the final step of this process being upon us. The groundwork has been laid and we are just waiting for the timing. 

TNT CC NOTES, 2 MARCH

3-2-15 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):


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Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Monday, March 2, 2015.  If you don’t have a question or comment, hit *2 and put your hand down.  Thank you.  DC, I sent out a tweet you will really have to explain to everyone.  “The call is on time and so is Iraq.” They are on time, whether people want to believe it or not.

This is why I do what I do:  we believe in our intel and communications, and we believe that people involved in the situation, in Iraq, involved in the situation, tell us.  WE don’t care about article put out two months ago.  Do your own research, but if I put out a tweet saying someone paid 400 dinar as they cross the border, it’s because that’s what someone on the ground just did – 400 dinar, not dollars.  Do your research!

DC:  Iraq got up to the plate on Saturday night, lined up and ready to go, and they had a meeting about the RV, taxes, customs rules and enforcement ready to go on 1. March.  They agreed to keep the tariffs and customs rules in place, and not to restart the auctions, but to hold off on the public side of the RV. They are holding off on who can exchange in Iraq for a few days.  For those who don’t care about the details, that is the news, and you can turn off and go back to sleep.

Everyone is waiting on Iraq.  Everyone is prepped and ready for the tariffs and they are going forward as expected.  We got that information from someone driving a truck over the border, and also from those enforcing those tariffs and fees. The tariffs are in place throughout the country.  The auctions didn’t take place because they have enough ffor the money.  They finished paying Kurdistan, not to pay the police and military and salaries.  They decided several things in that Saturday meeting, and we have some confirmation on one of them.  Abadi and his Council of Ministers decided that it would be better to take back a part of Iraq, Tikrit?  The bankers didn’t think that was part of the mix.  That might take weeks or even a few months.  They have been fighting and been successful to an extent.  We do not believe that they will wait until Tikrit is taken back, they just want a major success to look good before moving forward so they can roll it forward in a big celebration.  One of the strategies is to use the revaluation to soften up the troops.  ISIL is paying $190 per month plus food, so this will soften up some places in Anbar and Mosul.  So this is part of the military tactics;  we don’t talk about that here because everyone is listening to this call, including Baghdad.

That got wrapped into this situation on Saturday night.  We don’t know if today’s success was enough. They are playing this by ear.  They don’t need to have the entire town be re-taken, they just need some wins on the board.  That was not part of the equation until Saturday night.

Tony:  That’s it.  Everything has been completed.  IN the US everything is done. The military did get paid at the new revalued rate, all the way back to January.  The Iraqi citizens know that, and they are waiting to get their own checks and cash. All the merchants know it as well. They didn’t want to do this as the initiative started in Tikrit, on the day they started taking back the city.  It will be easier later in the week or month. It’s just like when ISIL walked in, it will be easier when they have a win. Iraq has done every little thing with the banking laws and tariffs;  they are on time, but they didn’t want to do it on the day they walked into Tikrit.  It’s their money, country and history;  they don’t want to have a celebration in one part of the country when they are sending in 30,000 troops into another party of the country.  I’m feeling great and waiting for this to go.

DC:  I’m a bit frustrated – why did this get mixed in at the last minute?  When I calmed down, you realize that these things in Iraq are important to them.  This does block them into a corner where this absolutely has to take place, between the auctions, banks, tariffs and all.   It will happen when Dr Shabibi gets comfortable.  We may have to wait a few days, maybe four days.

Tony:  They are telling their people, and this will happen.

562 caller:  You would have thought that the RV would help calm all this down…?

DC:  The RV is absolutely part of their military plan. They want to announce it at the end of the military action, not the beginning.  The soldiers want to go shopping as well!  They don’t want to shock everyone on the first day;  once you get all the soldiers engaged in the fight, then it will soften up the enemy to announce the RV.  You can then have the money to celebrate afterwards.

Tony:  ISIL pays their soldiers 150-190 per month.  After the RV, they can pay them more than ISIL… maybe 500 per month.  ISIL is losing oil wells, cities, territory.  Iraq will pay them more, and that is better.  Do they announce it before or after they put their lives in danger?  I see the reasoning behind it, and I see the effect it will have.  By the way, my wife lets me have multiple wives, but only because Pam lives in Michigan!

313 caller:  I have a similar questions, but now I will change the whole subject and pull your chain a little bit, Tony.  A guy back in January said that it won’t happen in February or March, and here we are in March!

Tony:  I could say it won’t happen in May!

Caller:  You and DC are both vital for us to get this information out of Iraq.  [Appreciation]

Tony:  I’ll tell you a joke quickly:  All these guys went to heaven, and there was a long line saying “Stand over here if your wife tells you what to do” and another line “Stand here if your wife doesn’t tell you what to do”. There are a lot of guys in the first line and one in the second line. What is his secret?  His wife told him to stand in that line!  The whole time that caller was talking, Pam is sending me texts to say this or that…

February, January, last November and December – honestly, I can’t make this stuff up.  I tell you what is going on in the moment according to the information they tell us, and we see the guards and bankers going in, that is what we tell you in the moment. It could happen in January and February.  I think it is about to happen because the tariffs and taxes went into effect and the military got paid back to January yesterday, at the new dinar rate. That’s what they told them yesterday.  I think it is going to happen really soon.  Maybe what they are doing in Tikrit is a total massacre, and they decide not to release it, but everything they are saying is that this is it, it should have been last night, and it could be tonight.  When they decide they have done enough over there, this will happen, and we can go.

DC:  I agree.  People say “Oh, it didn’t happen today, so it will be another two weeks” but that is not how it works.  This is a daily decision, pushing and pulling, maybe this extra bit would be a good idea.  It’s not a giant plan to frustrate us for the last 15 months, it’s a daily back and forth.  This last one was a recommendation to Abadi that they are starting to fight in Tikrit, and maybe it would be a good idea to have a victory or good news.  They didn’t want to stop the tariffs and laws, they had enough to pay their soldiers, so… they didn’t have a lot of press, just bad news about ISIL, and they had some maneuvering room.  They are prepared with their procedures and such, and by dealing with the terrorists, they are now in a wonderful spot.  Nothing else needs to be done, and with the auctions, they can go at any time.

828 caller:  [Appreciation]  With the rates, are we still on the zim dropping six zeroes, and then 5-6 cents, in the first basket?

DC:  That is what they are planning so far, dropping six zeroes and then rates up to 22 cents, although I’d be surprised if it is that high.

Caller:  What about the dong?

DC: If it does come out as low as 8 cents, I will exchange some, buy more dong, and wait for it to rise.  I don’t know the time line on that – it could be a few weeks or it could be five years.

Caller:  You said the Iraqis are waiting for the right time.  That’s a tough one.  There will never be a perfect time because there is always something going on.

Tony:  It will never be perfect, so they will choose the time with the best advantage for them.  They have to live with that forevermore, because there is no going back.  It’s done forever.  The taxes and tariffs are already in effect, and they have paid their military for the last two months.  The people are now waiting to go to the bank.

DC: Some banks are open, some are not. Some are training. They are not always open all the time like a normal business. They are getting the same off and on behavior like we are;  they are highly frustrated as we are, and the Iraqi people are losing patience as this goes on.  Intelligence folks are warning their people they are playing with fire.  They are telling the Iraqis to get it done, then everyone will be happy.  It could take weeks! However, I strongly believe this will not wait until they fully retake the city.  I think it will be enough for them to get a few points up on the board.  They have the tariffs and taxes in place, and we are being told by people in the room that they just need a few days. What if something goes bad?  By doing these other things, they are forced to RV within a short period of time. They are running out of cash, and it doesn’t work to have these different currency rates and levels all at the same time.

904 caller:  [Appreciation]  It’s been mentioned a few times that they are trying to clear out these large bills. Is there any chance that the people who don’t’ want us to have this will leave us hanging, that we cannot exchange these large bills?

DC:  It’s a very faint possibility.  Those who have exchanged, especially since 30. October or with SKRs, if they were able to exchange and make a ton of money and the rest of us cannot, that will cause all sorts of troubles.  I think that is insurance on that. All the major banks are ready to go through and this is a massive stimulus for the economy. The five million in this are an essential part of the plan to stimulate the economy and the oil credits.  We are part of the plan, just the last to get off the bus. Many get worked up about this, and because this is wildly speculative investment, it invites a lot of conspiracy-minded people.  But we are part of the plan and we are going to be paid.

Tony:  A lot of older people say, “Don’t borrow trouble”.  A lot of your are worrying about things that we have already got past. Instead of being anxious about what could go wrong, get ready for what will go right. Everything is done, and this is about to get real.  The numbers are there – the money is at the bank, the people are there, Iraq is there.

Caller:  Maybe it was just that little dark corner in there.  Things have changed so much in the last few months about which banks will be handling the exchanges… this is my scenario.  If you didn’t have a relationship with a bank or a wealth manager, if you are just with a credit union, then what about the contract rates?  Will there be 800 numbers or will we call the individual banks directly?  No bank seems to be acknowledging contract numbers.  Which bank would you go to if you have to go it quickly, as the contract rates will not last long?

DC: I would make an appointment with the big four banks.  If you follow this call, you will get the news first;  get on the phone and make an appointment with all the big four.  Only a few thousand will do that, so talk to all four and see if you can get the contract rate.  The main banks are all saying they will beat the prime contract, so put them to the test.  Do some comparison shopping. All the tier 1 banks should have access to the contract rate;  we are told by two of them that they will offer that, and even the tier 2 systems may have it as well.  All the major banks have already exchange people at contract rates all across the country already.

Caller:  Will they all be offering the same rate?  What is the best thing to ask for?

DC:  I will ask “I want to exchange dinar;  do you have the contract rates available?  What are they?”  Just like shopping for a financial advisor, the more homework you do, the better rates you will get.

707 caller:  Where can I get information about using 770 accounts?

Tony: Were you on the last call??

DC: I don’t have that information.

Tony:  I don’t either; it’s not my deal.  Go to a financial adviser, Google, etc.

Caller:  There was a redneck from Paris, TX.  He was in a hardware store and spotted a shiny object.   What’s that, he asks.  The salesman says that it’s a thermos, and it keeps hot things hot, and cold things cold. He buys one, and the next day his neighbor says, What’s that?  He says it’s a thermos, and it keeps hot things hot, and cold things cold. What does he have in it?  His lunch:  chili and a popsicle.

202 caller:  What about rupiah?  What is the rate and the code?

Tony:  I don’t know.  When you go to the bank, tell them what you have.  Ask to see the screen.  I am getting texts even on this call saying the banks will be competitive.  I think it’s a stupid way to do it, but if that is how they are doing it, take advantage of that!

702 caller:  So should we ask for IQD or IQN to be exchanged?

DC:  Some banks are using IQD and some are using IQN.  That is not a major issue.  The only thing you really have to be worried about is using the word ‘exchange’.  Bring in your currency and receipts, and say you want to exchange for US dollars.  I don’t think they will nit-pick on the code;  the main issue is to say ‘exchange’ rather than ‘cashing out’.  “I want to exchange my currency” is what you want to say.

Caller:  So they want this battle to succeed a bit, and that could take forever, right?

DC:  In effect, with these tariff and tax laws at the new rates, they have blocked themselves into getting this done in a very short time.  Also, with the auctions having stopped, they don’t have a lot of cash in hand, so they will have to change the rate.

Caller:  I said to my husband that just when they think this is under control there will be a problem with ISIL.  Also, I heard that the soldiers will be upset because they are not being paid at the new rate… did I hear that right?  How long can the Iraqi government keep this going before they have to RV?

DC:  No.  ISIL is the guys who will be upset.  Some are part of ISIL for religions or ideological reasons, but most are doing this for the check and the glory. If the Iraqi government can pay them more, they will back away.  Iraq has received loans from China and the US;  they are willing to make loans because of cheap oil and other considerations.  They are willing to keep Iraq in the game.

Caller: I have things about to blow up here – everything is coming to a head – so I hope Iraq does this soon!  There are so many people I want to help.

918 caller:  [Appreciation]  Are there exchange centers in Tulsa?  There are no WF banks in Oklahoma at all.

Tony:  You might have to look through tumbleweeds to even find a bank in OK!  I was there and one of my best friends is from Oklahoma.

DC:  All the major banks in OK are linked in to the WF/Bank of Ireland system.

Caller:  Question about the zim… you talked about caps on the contract rates for the dinar and dong, and then on one call you mentioned a possible cap on the zim.  But they don’t have a contract rate, so…

DC: They have a cap on the contract rates to make that pool available to a wider range of people.  Then Tony opened his big mouth about the zim, and they thought “Oh, no, it’s the zim all over again!”  They don’t want a few rich people to make a gazillion dollars off the zim, so they are working out how to limit that.  Some are suggesting 22 cents for the first amount, then one cent for the rest.  They are still considering it, and so far as I know they still haven’t worked that out yet.

Caller:  As long as there is some sort of value and it’s not just a collectible.  Someone also said something about the zim not being exchangeable at the banks, that we might have to go to investment firms…

DC:  We know a number of folks who have exchanged their zim at the banks.

Tony: We have banks showing rates for ZWR, ZWN and even ZWN.  I don’t’ think that will be an issue at all.

Caller:  On the calls, everyone said only the 50 and 100 trillion zim, 2008 series AA, so that is what I bought.  Then I got given some other notes.  I then did some research and found those 50 trill and 100 trill notes are the ZWR codes;  does that mean that the others will not be valid?

Tony:  Nothing beats a failure but a try. Take them to the bank and see.  I do believe that the ZWR only applies to the 50 trill and 100 trill zim notes.

570 caller:  I gather that we will not get an 800 number but individual bank numbers?

DC:  As we have said many times now, each bank will have their own 800 number.  You will be offered an exchange depending on the individual criteria on who to exchange.  They were going to have one 800 number, but some banks said they didn’t want the general public, that they had enough business.

Caller:  Do we give the list of all that we have?  And will X, Y and Z have exchangers?

DC:  I would, to give them a picture of how much you have.  You will be treated a lot better the more you have. It’s not right, I know, but that is the way of the world.  And all towns over 100,000 will have exchange centers, especially the big four and tier 1 banks.  If you have any over the really tiny banks, you will do just fine.

650 caller:  How can this offensive become a stopping point?  Who does that make sense to?  When is enough, enough?  Why is Tikrit so important that it can stop this?  And if so, how did we miss this?

DC: They have kept the intel and military side out of this as much as possible.  They always had the RV in mind to soften up the opposition as much as possible, and they have briefed the defense and interior departments and the CBI on that all along.  The ‘good idea fairy’ brought this up again on Saturday and suggested this to Abadi. They always planned to use this afterwards, especially in Mosul.  Dr Abadi is naturally a very strong consensus builder, and at times that can be immensely frustrating when the leader is sensitive.  The US and other friendly embassies are planning for this to go through later on this week.  If Tikrit turns into a route and the IDF get nailed, yes, that will cause issues.  It came out of left field, it sucks, and that is where we’re at.

Tony:  It doesn’t make sense to us, and it we don’t have all the information.  A lot of the things Iraq, the US and the banks do don’t make sense to us, but there it is.

DC:  In the last few months, they all want to make sure this is absolutely perfect, and that brings up a lot of issues.  They want to show that the Iraqi defense forces can beat ISIL forces, and that is a big deal.  I wasn’t in the meeting, and I don’t get it;  it’s crappy news and we just have to deal with it.

Tony:  This is about to happen.  If I want everyone to have confidence in this change, wouldn’t it make some kind of sense to send in our own forces, without international help, and show what we can move them out of a major city.  Others want to discredit that, but really, it’s their choice.  It’s not about us.

Caller:  I do understand that.  But they could have started that offensive a week ago and then hit the RV this weekend.  If this has been on the map for a while, then it was never going to happen this weekend.  WE haven’t heard anything about the rest of the budget.

Tony:  Nobody ever said this was necessary.  They have published the budget, set the tariffs, taxes and paid their people.  It’s just something to give people more confidence.

Caller:  So it looks like they have done an internal RI.  They are still being paid in dollars for their oil.  It feels like this has nothing to do with an actual RV for the rest of the world.

Tony:  They are doing a whole lot of things that are effective on 1. March, including banking and authorization to exchange currency rates effective yesterday;  that is public and in writing. There are reasons that they haven’t finished it.  It is as done as it could be apart from a public announcement to the world.

Caller:  [same points again]  It doesn’t seem like it’s international yet.

Tony:  Their bank people and our bank people agree about it.  We’ll just have to wait until 3pm this afternoon and see.  They are saying, “let’s get one day of this in and then we get move on.” They want some success and then they can celebrate. There is nothing else to wait for.  The banking and all the rest is done, and they are not going to publish those other 17 sections until we don’t need to see them any longer.

Caller:  This feels like US putting their hand in again…

DC:  Dr Abadi has meetings with the Council, the Federation and representatives from all the major countries involved in Iraq, as well as military leaders. That is how he has chosen to lead, and that is prone to influence from various directions.  They wanted to kick butt in Tikrit, and therefore the RV needs to wait for a few days while Abadi shows that he can be an effective Commander in Chief against ISIL.  Given that scenario, Abadi chose to do it this way.  Mosul and Tikrit have been brought up in meetings all the time, and they have been dismissed in the past as not crucial to the RV.  The US did assist in the conversation, but I doubt they orchestrated this.  They gave a nuanced answer to a straight-forward question and this is what Abadi decided to go with.

951 caller:  You talked earlier about the zim;  I am still confused. Why can’t we have one zim, not these four zims. I don’t know which one to use when we go in… Also, can we get a sample package we can look over beforehand?

DC:  I’m going to bring in my currency and say, “I want to exchange these”.  I don’t think they want to trip us up, apart from listening for that work ‘exchange’. I intend to say as little as possible so that I don’t step in anything.

Tony: We haven’t got the package yet!  It keeps changing!  We hoped to have a bank representative on the information calls, but their lawyers advised against that.

DC: I have to go  I know this is not the news you wanted, but this is another step towards this being done.  This is very positive deal.  They were absolutely ready to go Saturday night.  They could and should have done it then.  Watch the news and see what develops. Watch the boards and hopefully we will see this very soon.

Pam:  The transcribers will love this shorter call.  It’s springtime in Michigan;  even thought there is snow on the ground, the sun is shining.  I know that many will be frustrated with this information, but don’t poop in our punchbowl.  Keep your hair on and we can have an intelligent conversation about it all.

Ray:  Continue to enjoy marvelous Monday. OpenMIke is not Rehab Room either!  It will be good;  just hold on.

Tony:  Thanks the Mods and everyone else. I got a text during the call saying “Why aren’t you more upbeat?  The rest of Dinarland is saying this is going any second!”  I do believe there is a plan for this to go out this week.  I want you to understand why it didn’t happen this weekend.  Rates were changed, and they are on screens all around the world;  they paid the military, raised the rates, tariffs and taxes, and Iraq likes to do things in stages, so look for that.  You should be happy and excited.  Everyone tells us it it is done, done, done, all completed and signed off. We are just waiting for a flip of the switch.  I hoped to wake up to it, hope to go to sleep to it or failing that wake up to it tomorrow.  When something happens, we will send out a tweet.  Instead of wondering why it didn’t happen or what’s next, it’s a better use of your time to prepare for when it does happen.  Have a great day.  I hope to talk to you later today or tomorrow, and if not, then on Wednesday. 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 2 MARCH

3-2-2015   Newshound Guru tlm724   Article:  "Parliamentary Finance searching with the Governor of the Central Bank of the issue of the Iraqi dinar and the abolition of zeros"    we have several diff source articles for this...basically all the other articles are saying the same thing...lets have a talk about getting rid of the zero's.  you all do realize how fast things are happening don't you?  I am talking about the fact that we are smack dab in the middle of the currency reform.

3-2-2015   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  the one thing our Baghdad contact has maintained is Baghdad needs money to fight ISIS. Period. He felt like one of the main ways to get it was via currency reform - ''removing the 3 zero's"
... it seems a little early to me based on the press releases over the last few days - but what do I know?? This is an emergency.

3-2-2015   Intel Guru Hocus Pocus   [via Guru Jester]   NO CHANGE OVER THERE... BUDGET NOT IN THE PAPER... THEY ARE STILL OPTIMISTIC AND THE NEWS FEED SAYS SOON THEIR MONEY WILL BE WORTH MORE... SAME INFORMATION WE HAVE BEEN GETTING FOR A WEEK.

3-2-2015   Newshound Guru My Ladies 
  DINAR LAND THINKS THE OPPOSITE, THEY THINK LAWS NEEDS TO COME FIRST, AND SALARIES ARE PAID THEN WE ARE NEXT, BUT NO, NO NO NO NO NO, YOU CAN NOT DO THINGS IN REVERSE LIKE THAT, BASIC BANKING PRINCIPLES.  IF THEY GO INTERNATIONAL AT 1166 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO "RV" OR "RI" AFTER THAT.  THE SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.  IF THEY GO INTERNATIONAL AND PASS LAWS AND PAY SALARIES AT THE IMPOSED RATE THEN THEY HAVE DEFIED ECONOMICS AND WE ARE IN FOR ANOTHER 10 YEAR WAIT. WELL 5 AT LEAST BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY SAID THEY NEED TO FINISH THEIR MONETARY REFORM.  WE ARE STILL IN THE GAME AS OF TODAY.   [post 2 of 2]

3-2-2015   Newshound My Ladies
   THE WAY I SEE THINGS AS LONG AS NO LAWS REQUIRING FUNDING ARE PASSED AND NO SALARIES ARE PAID, AND NOTHING IS HAPPENING CAUSING IRAQ TO CROSS BORDERS WE ARE OK.  YES WE ARE STILL WAITING, BUT WE ARE STILL HOPEFUL THE WAIT IS SHORT.  NOW IF WE SEE MONEY MOVING, AND INTERNATIONAL OBLIGATIONS BEING FULFILLED, AND THE SMART CARDS BEING ACTIVATED WITH NO RATE CHANGE THEN WE WILL NEED TO BE REALISTIC WITH WHERE WE ARE.  SO HERE IS HOPING FOR IRAQ ADOPTS A CURRENCY VALUE OTHER THAN 1166 AND DOES IT BEFORE MAKING ANY MANY CHANGES IN MONEY AND POLICY.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

3-2-2015   Intel Guru Jester 
  THEY ARE WAITING ON SOME THINGS TO BE SIGNED WITH THE US... ALL INDICATIONS ARE THE BUDGET IS READY TO GO... THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT HAD TO HAPPEN WHEN THE BUDGET WAS READY TO GO... OTHERWISE IT WAS A MOOT POINT...LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION.... I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST A SMALL HOLD UP... THAT THINGS ARE STILL GOING JUST FINE... THE BUDGET JUST NEEDS TO BE PRINTED INDICATING THINGS ARE DONE AND THEN POOF... IRAQ WILL BE ON IT'S WAY. 

3-2-2015   Newshound Guru Millionday 
    [They can't RV without the Article 140 implemented, right?]  UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUDGET DISTRIBUTION IS IMPACTED BUT CBI HAS REPORTED THAT INVESTMENT FUNDS COULD BE USED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MONETARY POLICY.   SO AS FAR AS AN ACCURATE EXACT TO THAT ANSWER -- IT CANT BE GIVEN UNLESS BY CBI WHO HAS THE INDEPENDENCE IN THE MONETARY POLICY.   [post 2 of 2]

3-2-2015   Newshound Guru Millionday  
 Article quote:  "Office of the Prime Minister Saad al- Sabri, that the application of Article 140 of the Constitution after the procedure will eliminate Daash terrorist gangs in the disputed areas."  THEY ARE NOT ACTIVATING ARTICLE 140 UNTIL DAASH IS ELIMINATED PER THIS REPORT.  IT IS NOT THAT THE BORDERS ARE NOT BEING DEFINED -- IT IS THAT IT IS NOT AN EASY TASK WITH DAASH ON THEM OR IMPACTING THE PROCESS.   [What is article 140...?]  ARTICLE 140 IS PART OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT DEFINES THE AREAS THAT ARE PART OF KURDISTAN...  IMPORTANT FOR COSTS AND BUDGET ETC.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

3-2-2015   Intel/Newshound Guru  Backdoc 
 ...A FEW MORE LAWS WILL LIKELY BE READ SO THAT ALL IS IN PLACE FOR THE ONE BASKET! THE LAW OF PARTIES MAY BE ONE OF THOSE GETTING FINISHED!  WITH THE MARKET ECONOMY READY TO LAUNCH AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THEY ARE IN A HURRY TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER!  IT MAKES SENSE THAT A RATE WOULD PRECEDE THE LAUNCH OF THE MARKET ECONOMY SINCE IT WILL TAKE A FEW DAYS TO ADJUST TO THE NEW CURRENCY!  [post 2 of 2]

3-2-2015   Intel/Newshound Guru  Backdoc
   WE ALL EXPECTED TODAY [SUNDAY] TO SEE THEM START TARIFFS AND TAXES AS THE ARTICLES INDICATED!  EITHER THEY HAVE ACHIEVED THEIR GOAL ON REDUCING LIQUIDITY FROM THE PUBLIC FLOAT AND ARE SIMPLY WAITING TO LAUNCH EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE OR POSSIBLY THEY ARE WAITING TO SEE SECURITY IMPROVE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO BEFORE A RATE CAN BE RELEASED! WE KNOW THAT THE KURDS ARE NOW VERY HAPPY BUT THE SUNNIS HAVE ONE MORE REQUEST BEFORE THE NATIONAL RECONCILIATION IS COMPLETE, ARREST MALIKI AND BRING HIM TO JUSTICE! 

S3A CHAT , TNT TWEET & BACKDOC UPDATES, 2 MARCH

3-2-15 Adept1: The tweet [from TNT TONY] was very clear: the new tariff laws are in effect, at the new rate. That means the new rate is imminent for everything else. The second tweet was in response to all the tumult and confusion in the chat room. 
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3-2-15 Backdoc: WE ALL EXPECTED TODAY [SUNDAY] TO SEE THEM START TARIFFS AND TAXES AS THE ARTICLES INDICATED!  EITHER THEY HAVE ACHIEVED THEIR GOAL ON REDUCING LIQUIDITY FROM THE PUBLIC FLOAT AND ARE SIMPLY WAITING TO LAUNCH EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE OR POSSIBLY THEY ARE WAITING TO SEE SECURITY IMPROVE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO BEFORE A RATE CAN BE RELEASED! WE KNOW THAT THE KURDS ARE NOW VERY HAPPY BUT THE SUNNIS HAVE ONE MORE REQUEST BEFORE THE NATIONAL RECONCILIATION IS COMPLETE, ARREST MALIKI AND BRING HIM TO JUSTICE!
A FEW MORE LAWS WILL LIKELY BE READ SO THAT ALL IS IN PLACE FOR THE ONE BASKET! THE LAW OF PARTIES MAY BE ONE OF THOSE GETTING FINISHED!  WITH THE MARKET ECONOMY READY TO LAUNCH AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THEY ARE IN A HURRY TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER!  IT MAKES SENSE THAT A RATE WOULD PRECEDE THE LAUNCH OF THE MARKET ECONOMY SINCE IT WILL TAKE A FEW DAYS TO ADJUST TO THE NEW CURRENCY! 

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S3A :


So.....

We have. FULL HOUSE in Parliament


Union Forces lifted the Boycott against Parliament


Abadi & Jabouri is having OR Had a Meeting Regarding HCL


Announcement of Bonds Sales for PRIVATE BANKS....



What is Abadis either Spraking Now or Done Addressing Parliament......


Add all this up (plus the weekend News we heard).....


What do you get.....


Take a Guess!!!



  • UNTIL THERE IS A 100% FULLY ACTIVATED AND IMPLEMENTED HCL & KURDISTAN IS HAPPY WE WILL CONTINUE TO WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Agree 100% Exo !!!
    Slow roll!!! Iraq does nothing fast . It is kind of like island time. We have heard the term lava flow also. We all want it like yesterday. And a lot of us need it like yesterday. All I know is from now til the end of the month they have stated it would be complete. So i am very excited because we have never been this close before. Thanks for being the Alpha Pack leader and today should be very telling !!