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Sunday, October 18, 2015

KTFA CHAT UPDATE, 18 OCT

KTFA:

Frank26:
  Qt Family:   How is it possible that IRAN is doing MANY sanction things BEFORE they LIFT their SANCTIONS?
Baker:  Frank are the sanctions lifted and we just do not know this yet?

Frank26:  No ........ Not officially lifted yet........ Yet at this end they too reach for a ......... Moon....... Planet.   Ponder Please.

Wishes: Frank, i think its already lifted, its just not announce to the public yet, maybe they're in the LL waiting for Iraq to move first?

Frank26:  Lifted not by Officials but by ........ Slight of HandS.   Ponder Please ........ TY for posting Friend.......
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Millie: Could it be they've already been lifted??

Frank26:  Hmmm.

If so ........ With one Bold Nasty Attitude.

If so ........ Not by themselves.

If so ........ For a Coalition.

If so ........ To make money for Many.

If so ........ For a HOLY reason.

If so ........ For a while longer.

KTFA   Frank


Aggiedad77:  You mentioned a moon planet....what is it they call Pluto these days....I remember you making a remark about Pluto a few days ago, saying something like it would always be a planet in your heart....how might that relate to the Irans

Is their Pluto....Plutonium by any chance

Are they gaining what they need to finish a long standing project that has been long hidden in exchange for early presents....or presence of someone wanting to be poised like a cat ready to strike where they know black gold riches lie largely untapped.

Where will "we" stand when the dust settles....scratching my head      Aloha      Randy

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Carolyn:  My answer is:    They were lifted right before our eyes
BUT not for our eyes

Blinkster:   I would tend to agree. Nice answer, btw. Lifted BEHIND THE CURTAIN, so to speak.

Frank26:    WINK…….. The coming Days are Exciting and ........... EXPECTED.

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Manaolana3:  IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, HERE IS A CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS THAT IMO WILL PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE:

1) NOVEMBER 2013 ADOPTION OF JOINT PLAN OF ACTION AN INTERIM AGREEMENT BETWEEN IRAN AND THE P5+1 NATIONS ON THE IRAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM (P5+1 NATIONS INCLUDE: US, CHINA, RUSSIA, FRANCE, GERMANY, UK PLUS EURO

2) APRIL 2015 IRAN AND P5+1 REACHED A FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT

3) JULY 14, 2015 IRAN AND P5+1 COUNTRIES REACHED AGREEMENT ON IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM

4) JULY 20, 2015 UN SECURITY COUNCIL ENDORSES IRAN NUCLEAR AGREEMENT

5) OCTOBER 13, 2015 IRAN'S PARLIAMENT APPROVED NUCLEAR DEAL

6) OCTOBER 15, 2015 SEC JOHN KERRY MADE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT, "NOW, AS A RESULT, IRAN HAS EVERY REASON TO LIVE UP TO ITS OBLIGATIONS, JUST AS IT HAS, BY THE WAY THROUGHOUT THE NEGOTIATING PROCESS, BECAUSE WE (IRAN AND P5+1 NATIONS) ALREADY STRUCK AN INTERIM AGREEMENT TO BEGIN WITH THAT TESTED THEIR BONA FIDES, AND REQUIRED THEM TO ROLLBACK THEIR PROGRAM (NUCLEAR), AND THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THAT OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD

7) OCTOBER 18-19, 2015 (TODAY) ADOPTION DAY THE DATE BOTH SIDES MUST BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE IRAN NUCLEAR AGREEMENT KNOWN AS JCPOA (JOINT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF ACTION).THE DATE NOTED WAS DESIGNATED 90 DAYS AFTER THE DEAL WAS ENDORSED BY THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL
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8) DECEMBER 15, 2015 IAEA FINAL REPORT TO UN SECURITY COUNCIL IRAN'S COMPLIANCE TO NUCLEAR AGREEMENT

9) IMPLEMENTATION DATE (UNKNOWN) DEPENDS ON RESULTS FROM IAEA REPORT TO UN SECURITY COUNCIL

10) IRAN IS PROJECTING REMOVAL OF SANCTIONS AT YEAR END 2015 NO SPECIFIC DATE

11) IRAN EXPECTS TO REMOVE CENTRIFUGES AND BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NUCLEAR AGREEMENT BEGINNING NEXT YEAR NO SPECIFIC DATE GIVEN THOUGH ROUHANI WOULD LIKE IT DONE BEFORE THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS

12) FEBRUARY 26, 2016 IRAN ELECTIONS

SO, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION FRANK, IMO, THIS INTERIM AGREEMENT WHICH STARTED BACK IN NOVEMBER 2013 SEC KERRY IS STATING THAT IRAN HAS ALREADY "LIVED UP TO ITS OBLIGATIONS, JUST AS IT HAS" AND DEMONSTRATED "THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THAT OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD."

PRES ROUHANI WHILE ATTENDING THE UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEETING HELD RECENTLY IN NY, MET WITH JOURNALISTS AND MEDIA EXECUTIVES AND SAID, "CONDITIONS WERE RIPE" FOR HIS ADMINISTRATION TO START IMPLEMENTING THE AGREEMENT. HIS COMMENTS WERE ECHOED BY BUSINESS LEADERS AND WORLD INVESTORS AT AN INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON TRADE AND INVESTMENTS HELD ABOUT THE SAME TIME.

JAPAN, FRANCE, GERMANY, AND EU CORPORATIONS ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING LUCRATIVE CONTRACTS IN IRAN.

ADDITIONALLY, IRAN IS ON A FAST-TRACK TO RID INCLUDING THE PROPER DISPOSAL OF THEIR CENTRIFUGES TO BE COMPLIANT WITH ALL OF THE PROVISIONS AS STATED IN THE NUCLEAR DEAL.

 AMERICAN EXPERTS SAY IT WILL TAKE IRAN 6-9 MONTHS MINIMUM. IRAN EXPECTS IT TO BE DONE AT BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. WHY? ROUHANI IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN FEB 26, 2016.THIS IRAN DEAL IS WEIGHING HEAVILY ON HIM BECAUSE SO MUCH IS AT STAKE.

ROUHANI WANTS THE SANCTIONS LIFTED ON HIS COUNTRY BY THE END OF 2015. HE WANTS ACCESS TO THE BILLIONS IN FROZEN ASSETS AND OIL SALES. ROUHANI IS UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM HIS OPPONENTS TO DELIVER THE GOODS IF HE EXPECTS TO BE RE-ELECTED. LIKE IRAQ, IRAN HAS A LIQUIDITY CRISIS AND THEY ARE SUFFERING ECONOMICALLY.

AS YOU MENTIONED ON OUR CC LAST THURSDAY FRANK, IRAN WILL MIRROR IRAQ IN THE SAME WAY CHINA DID WITH THE US.

THE IAEA IS TASKED TO MONITOR, INSPECT, AND VERIFY IRAN'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE NUCLEAR DEAL. THE IAEA WILL SUBMIT A FINAL REPORT TO THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 15, 2015.

IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT IRAN IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE, AN IMPLEMENTATION DATE WILL BE SET. ONCE THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE IS SET, SIMULTANEOUSLY THE EU SANCTIONS WILL BE LIFTED AND THE US SANCTIONS SUSPENDED.

AS A SIDE NOTE...AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI RECENTLY HAD A BOUT WITH PROSTATE CANCER...NOT SURE TO WHAT DEGREE...MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION AS IS THE COUNCIL OF EXPERTS WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CHOOSING IRAN'S SUPREME LEADER IN FEB 2016..

WHETHER IRAN WILL CUT CORNERS TO BE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, THE IAEA HAS GOT TO BE ON TOP OF THEIR GAME. WHETHER IRAN WILL MAINTAIN FULL COMPLIANCE TO THE END OF THE AGREEMENT ONCE THE SANCTIONS ARE LIFTED IS ANY ONES' GUESS...IRAQ, IRAN...THE BOPSIE TWINS...

MAKES ME WONDER...ALL THIS TALK ABOUT LIQUIDITY CRISIS...
EXPECTATIONS...EXPECTING SOMETHING TO HAPPEN...ONE CAN ONLY CONCLUDE THINGS ARE MOVING REAL FAST...FASTER...FASTEST!!!

Walkingstick:  Urgent Cabinet Secretariat: blessings of the new salary on the first of next month application

History of edits:: 2015/10/18 15:50 •  [Baghdad-where]

The General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers, that the application of new salary scale according to the Cabinet's recent decision, it will be the first of the month of November Almqubl..itba

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storytopic=39&storyid=18579

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Walkingstick:  Today .. Council of Ministers approved the budget

By Mohammed Emad 18/10/2015 10:12 |
Brother - Baghdad

Favored the office of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi approval of the Council of Ministers in its meeting scheduled on Sunday a draft budget for fiscal 2016 Act exceptional.

His spokesman Saad al-Hadithi said that "the budget bill will be presented today to the cabinet for a vote and likely passed, but each case, the project is still in circulation and can not talk about the final number for the size of the budget only after sending it to the House of Representatives."

"The change in the budget at the last minute in the size of cabinet discussions may occur and therefore it is difficult to announce the final number for the total amount of expenditure in the budget bill passed by the Council of Ministers."

He pointed newborn to, that "determine the total budget will be discussed and there is work team is working on the budget since the days and be presented to the Cabinet," noting that "the debate would apply to budget items will not be meeting only be a vote and a show of hands and there may be changes in the final moments on the exact budget figure gets upgrade or downgrade Jeep what is going on and what is happening inside of the deliberations of the Council of Ministers today. "

A spokesman for the House of Representatives to the Office Abadi, the dimensions of the budget after it reaches him of "political conflicts and ratify it without delay."

A newborn that "Parliament managed to pass the 2015 budget, cut the time short unlike the previous years and I think that the circumstances in the country far and the challenges of security and the need for the government to launch her financial spending with regard to providing the war on terror and the special requirements of salaries service and other matters make Parliament before the challenge of the need that the budget performed rapidly and interfere in conflicts between parliamentary blocs. "

"We believe that there is a chance to pass the budget shortly asymptotic time experienced by the current year's budget I do not think the debate will drag around in the Parliament, as was the case under the previous governments."

http://www.khabaar.net/index.php/permalink/52853.html

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Walkingstick:  The government recognizes the 2016 budget today and calls to keep it away from political conflicts

Writings Sunday, October 18.2015 at 10:55

Favored the Office of the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi approval of the Council of Ministers in its meeting scheduled on Sunday draft financial budget law for 2016. Extraordinary

and said his spokesman Saad al-Hadithi told all of Iraq [where], that "the budget bill will be presented today to the cabinet for a vote and likely passed, but we case, the project is still in circulation and can not talk about the final figure for the size of the budget only after sending it to the House of Representatives.

"" The change in the budget at the last minute the size of the cabinet discussions may occur and therefore it is difficult to announce the final figure for the amount of the total expenditure in the budget law before approval of the Council of Ministers.

"He pointed newborn to, that" determine the total budget will be discussed and there is work team is working on the budget since the days and be presented to the Cabinet, "noting that" the debate would apply to budget items will not be meeting only be a vote and a show of hands and there may be changes in the moments the latest on the exact figure of the budget may get upgrade or downgrade Jeep what is going on and what is happening from the deliberations within the Council of Ministers today.

"A spokesman for the House of Representatives Abadi Office to, the dimensions of the budget after it reaches him of" political conflicts and ratify it without delay.

"said Sabri that" Parliament managed to pass the 2015 budget, cut the time short unlike the previous years and I think that the circumstances in the country far and the challenges of security and the need for the government to launch her ​​financial spending with regard to providing the war on terror and the special requirements of salaries service and other matters make Parliament before the challenge of the need that the budget performed in fast and interfere in conflicts between parliamentary blocs.

"He added," We believe that there is a chance to pass the budget shortly asymptotic time experienced by the current year's budget do not think that the debate around in the parliament will drag on, as was the case under the previous governments.

"He was an economic advisor to the Prime Minister the appearance of Mohammed Saleh said on Saturday that there is a reduction in the budget of 2016, and that the omission had been for unnecessary expenses.

"said Saleh's [where] that" the 2016 budget will be discussed tomorrow [today] in the special session of the Council of Ministers which will go toward reducing expenses, and will be reduce some unnecessary expenses.

"The said two ministers in the federal government, that" Atkhvad or significant changes in the total expenditure in the draft 2016 budget law "and showed that" the total amount of the budget expenditures are estimated at 114 trillion dinars paid income of $ 84 trillion and 73 billion and 557 million dinars.

"The Ministry of Finance has announced that in 16 of last September it a draft 2016 budget handed over to the Council of Ministers for approval as published in its official website a copy of the draft, but the Cabinet decided earlier in the formation of a committee to investigate how the leak of this draft to the media .

According to the draft budget that the total expenditure of more than 113 trillion dinars, which is low by about six trillion dinars from the budget last year, which was 119 trillion dinars The 2016 budget deficit ratio stood at 26.5%, or about 30 trillion dinars. as reported by the Ministry of Finance accounts slightly higher deficit budget next year in 2016 by 1.5% from last year's budget in 2015, which was of 25%, has calculated the revenues derived from the export of crude oil on the basis of the average price of 45 dollars per barrel and the rate of export of 3.6 million barrels per day, including 250 000 barrels per day quantities of crude oil produced in the province of Kurdistan and 300 000 barrels of crude oil quantities of the product by the province of Kirkuk, and that all revenue actually income once the public treasury of the state to account.

She draft budget that speculative revenue for Iraq from sales of oil for the next 2016 an estimated $ 59 billion is equivalent to 83% of federal budget revenues. According to figures contained in the draft that the oil revenues and mineral wealth is estimated at 69 Trliuna and 773 billion and 400 million Iraqi dinars, equivalent to about 83% of the total revenue conjecture 84 trillion dinars and add to it the amounts Estimated obtained from loans and other to cover the deficit in the budget. This is equivalent to oil revenues, the value of the dollar 59 billion and $ 130 million.

http://www.kitabat.com/ar/print/62320.php

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