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Wednesday, December 24, 2014

TMAN23 & SCZIN11 UPDATE, 24 DEC

12-24-14 tman23: Earlier today in Iraq, the banking call center hours were taken down...These hours a few weeks ago were extended from 3:30pm closing to 11:30pm... Today [Tuesday] the hours of operation came down...3 centers now operating 24hrs a day....As of today.  Confirmed! 

12-24-14 sczin11: THE DIFFERENCE TODAY, VERSUS LAST YEAR AND THE YEARS BEFORE...WE HAVE A SEATED GOVERNMENT NOW, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE MALIKI AT THE TOP...

FIRST JUBOURI WAS RACING TO GET THE HOUSE IN ORDER, THEN ABADI AND MASAUM CONTINUED THE RACE...

WE HAVE NEVER HAD LAWS PASSED AND WRITTEN AT THE SPEED THEY ARE NOW...

AS A MATTER OF FACT, JUST THE OPPOSITE...THEY SAT ON DESKS FOR YEARS AND YEARS...GLOBAL BANKS DIDNT OPEN IN THE COUNTRY...GLOBAL COMPANIES WERENT JUMPING IN...EMBASSIES OPENING UP...QATAR, SAUDIA ARABIA, KUWAIT...

YES THE COUNTRY IRAQ DESTROYED 23 YEARS AGO...THEY ARE ON BOARD...THEY ARE BROTHERS... THEY SHARE A PIPELINE...THE NEWS IS FAST AND FURIOUS! 

R.V / GCR & OILRAT TIDBITS FROM S3A, 24 DEC

RV / GCR :Tonights your night i tried not to call it today but, God has another plan....HAPPY RV/GCR....I`m calling it. For friday appointments using 800 numbers you find in the morning.

OilratI truly do want wish all here on this sight and your love ones a very, very Merry Christmas....God Bless all.....Looking forward to seeing all our blessing coming very soon!!!!

DALLASDIVA POST : MEAT OF TNT CC NOTES, 24 DEC

  1. On Iraq TV is that Iraq is going to make the 2015 budget announcement at the 11th hour of Dec 25 effective immediately       (our tonight?  is it 11:00 day or 11:00 pm?)   COULD GO BEFORE but our banks are closed until Friday morning, period.   Remember, the USA has reserved the right to exchange the currency at their discretion..... 
  2. The RV was in the 2014 budget anyway.  So the RV has been being stretched out to that time of the announcement of the 2015 budget.  ( the RV'd rate is in that budget )
  3. Tony asking sincerely that whatever you hear tomorrow - DON'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU GET THE 800#'s FROM TONY.  DON'T BOMBARD THE BANKS.  DON'T DRIVE UP IN BUSES.  DON'T CREATE CHAOS-  WE DON'T WANT THEM TO SHUT IT DOWN. 
  4. Tony called a guest member stationed in Afghanistan that he wished a Merry Christmas to the him personally and all the troops.
  5. Ray tells a story of a member who was at the bank and the dong was live but before the member could get back to the bank it went off the screen.  Then Tony said he personally knew of a member who exchanged ALL FOUR CURRENCIES on Monday.  So the rates are showing.   
  6. Zim lop is 6 zeroes says Tony!   Dong is with the Dinar basket - (so GCR happening with the RV)
~DallasDiva~

TNT CC NOTES, 24 DEC

12-24-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):

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Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  It’s the right place at the right time!  Today is Wednesday, December 24, 2014.  A couple of things really quickly…

The Sony hack upset me when they cancelled that movie “The Interview”, so I’m ecstatic to know they are showing that movie tomorrow.  We should never bow down to foreign powers, especially for BS reasons like that.

We will give the information really quick, and then we will talk to our first caller, who is in Afghanistan, and pass on greeting to our troops.  But first, Pam, do the Mods wanted to say something?  I thought they wanted to say Merry Christmas to you all!   I know you want to hear some of the Mod’s voices and we wanted to take time to do that today.

DC is not here today, but we did just talk to him.  Our directions are so screwed that we can’t make sense of what we are supposed to do, so until they can be more specific, I’m just doing what I’m doing.

Everything you have heard is true:  Iraq says they are making an announcement tomorrow ‘at the eleventh hour’. They will do a vote on the 2015 budget and it will got into effect immediately.  We don’t need the budget for the RV because it was in the 2014 budget.  It is already done, that is just the announcement time. There are a few frivolous laws and conditions they will vote on prior to that, but the rest has just been a way to stretch this moment out for whatever reason… the oil, economies, things going on in the back room where the battle was taking place.  It’s looking very positive for you all to have a great Christmas in the sense that this is over and happening, not necessarily money in your hand.  You can celebrate Christmas on Friday, Saturday, or any day in the future now that the money is coming through.

Iraq itself has put out the statement on their television that this is happening “at the eleventh hour on the 25th”.  Obviously it makes no sense for exchanges and appointments on the half-day today, and the banks won’t start up again until the 26th.  I don’t know how and when we will get the 800 numbers. Wait until then or until you get some kind of direction. Don’t call or go to the banks before then because we don’t’ want to give them an excuse to shut this down.  I am not going to the bank until I get the 800 numbers and I know what to do – I’m not running to the bank demanding my money.  Hopefully I will have information I can put out on the 26th before the banks open, so that people will know what to do and there won’t be chaos.  If not, think about how this affects everyone;  if we flood the banks on Friday they won’t be able to handle it, and they will shut it down. I can see that, I hope THEY can see that, and send us information.

Iraq is supposed to be going at 11am their time – they are saying they will take the vote and make the announcement then. They could go earlier or later; their time is not like ours and they could do it at any time, but that is the plan so far.

Pam, any of the Mods on and ready to speak?  [Pam:  Yes, I have some of Mods on…]

PaperBoy:  Merry Christmas and have a great New Year, and I thank you all for the support you gave me in my recent fall from the ladder.  Merry Christmas to all!

DavidM:  Thank you to Mr. Tony, Pam, Raymond, all the Mods who support the site, and all the members who contribute and make TNT what it is.  I wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and New Year, and health, wealth and happiness in 2015.

Jaybird:  Merry Christmas to all;  I wish you all a Happy New Year, and go RV!

Daz:  It’s been a fun ride… wishing everyone and their family a healthy and joyous holiday!

Tony:  Pam didn’t come back;  I now have someone on the line from Afghanistan, on the line with the whole of TNT> what’s going on over there?  Anything good?

Caller;  Everything is progressed, everyone is doing their job correctly and it’s moving along.

Tony:  We appreciate what everyone is doing over there.  I met your uncle in LA, and just wanted to call and wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Caller:  We all have to stay calm.  I do have a couple of questions for you…

Tony: Are you hearing a lot about the dinar in Iraq?

Caller:  We hear a lot, all the time. Everyone is miffed that it is taking so long.  They are trying to be patient, standing back and waiting for it to take place.

Tony:  Do a lot of guys where you are have dinar?

Caller:  I know several people who have 50 million plus!

Tony:  What are your questions?

Caller:  I live in St Louis;  will the US Bank hold this?  The rate I saw on the board, is that true?  And what about the Iranian rial?

Tony:  I don’t know about US Bank in particular, but there are tier 1 and tier 2 banks, and there will be places to exchange in St Louis.  What rate did you hear?

Caller:  $1.68.

Ray:  A member contacted me who was at a bank, and they offered to exchange at $1.68.  She picked up her money, rushed back, and the screen was blank. They said they would call her when they could exchange her.  Another member called his banker, who called him in on the spot;  we’re waiting to hear back from him.

Tony:  So the rates are showing up intermittently.  We’ve heard those stories before, and we have a member who actually exchanged just at the right moment. I know of one person who exchanged all four currencies on Monday.

Caller:  Personally, I believe the Iranian rial will revalue as well, once they lift the sanctions.  They have rials on ebay.

Tony:  That’s true of most countries.  The key is knowing that and when it will happen.  Are you back home?

Caller:  I’ve been here in Afghanistan since 2011, and I’ll be back sometime next year…

Tony:  I wanted to call you and DC may call you as well because he wanted to call and thank you as well.  Please pass this on to everyone over there – we really appreciate what you are doing and say Merry Christmas from all of us to all of you.

Caller:  [Appreciation]

Tony:  Pam, are you back yet?

313 caller:  I deal with dinar.me, and they quote Ben Fulford, who says that ISIL is being funded by Israel.  The super-high intelligence knows how they are being funded and who is backing them.  Can you expound on that?

Tony:  The US knows who is funding them, and who is funding this war.  It’s not a surprise for our government.

Caller:  Why don’t they make it public so they could shut them down and our guys wouldn’t have to go over there and fight?

Tony:  Our government already knows;  what does it benefit anyone to tell us?  A war is business;  you have to give and take.  Just like a physical war and an economic war, you can sell them whatever, and we will blow it up, and that way the money keeps flowing.  It’s not what you guys want to hear, but it’s a cycle and you cannot shut down everyone who is doing business with them.  We can say “You need to cut back so that you have enough to survive, and we will top you up in these other ways.”

Caller:  Even when we support our enemies?  It’s just unbelievable to me that ISIL is not who we think it is.

Tony:  ISIL was small potatoes until this Iraqi deal opened up.  They were the JV until this crisis happened in Iraq.  Now it’s a bigger deal, and they need to cut back.  They are doing some things we need them to do, so we don’t have to do them.

941 caller:  I have a tax question.  Maybe it’s good we’ve been delayed so long in getting to the banks.  They have only just started giving out cash in the last year.  If we go into 2015 and the RV hasn’t officially happened, then they would have to create a retroactive law to tax those who were paid out in 2013.  IF they cannot tax the early people, we might not end up paying tax on this ourselves, because they have to apply it equally or it’s going to get challenged.

Many want to give back, and I thought about my dad’s tractor.  He bought it for $500 and sold it for $1,500.  If he had reported that, he might have been taxed on the difference.  If he had given it away, though, he would not be taxed on that.  If I give 50%  of my dinar a non-profit, and they cash it in, they will give me a receipt for at the new rate.  So I will have 50% in my pocket and the tax man doesn’t get any because I offset 50% to the non-profit.  Do we get an IRS letter and publish that?  So that other don’t have to ask the IRS…?

Tony: GET PROFESSIONAL ADVICE.  We are not giving out tax advice through this site, so unless the IRS gives us direction, three million people will have to ask the IRS directly and individually.  I like your scenario;  I just don’t know if it work legally.

786 caller:  Iraq is staying that they are going to push the budget through this week, but others say next week or next year.  You are saying tomorrow at 11am, right?

Tony: That is what Iraqi television is saying – that they will announce it at 11 tomorrow. They are meeting earlier to pass a few more small laws and regulations, and then…!

828 caller:  So that we are all clear, let’s assume they do the budget and RV at around 11am Iraqi time;  that means that when we get up in the US, it should be a fait accompli.

Tony:  Let’s hope so.  Whenever Iraq chooses to do it, it should be on CBI;  we should be tweeting it out, too, although I’m not sure from what they are saying right now.  We should be sending out 800 numbers and direction by Friday morning.

Caller:  So you will let us know by Friday morning?

Tony:  I am hoping I can.  They don’t want panic in the streets, or people camping outside the banks at 9am Friday morning.  That would be an issue.  A whole lot of people WILL know, and they’ll put it out.  I am hoping they will call me before the end of the day, because I’m not answering the phone tomorrow. I want to be as helpful as possible, and if there is no leadership, people will follow any idiot out there, and they should not want that to happen!  I don’t care who is first, I just want to get the 800 numbers to you and the information in the package.

719 caller:  Ho-ho-ho!  I’m cooking for Christmas, listening to you, and feeding deer out the front door…

Tony:  I think Pam is chopping up deer!

Caller:  I hope we hear something by Christmas night. Is Maliki still in the palace?

Tony:  He is VP, but slowly they are bringing out everything about him. They took his plane, and I’m sure they can take his palace.

Caller:  Could anything delay this?

Tony:  My understanding is that everything has been done to announce this tomorrow.  The vote was taken a long time again, and again, and again after every skirmish and argument.  Yesterday it was announced that “we are done” and there would be the announcement apart from very minor things.  But everything the US has asked for has been completed.

Caller:  I love that you say “don’t call the banks” but some have and are being exchanged, while those who have NOT called are still waiting.

Tony:  The banks have lists of people they already have relationships with.  So long as it’s a handful and not thousands, then we can all just wait until Friday morning as the banks won’t be open tomorrow anyway.  They said the announcement will come at the eleventh hour, so we hope it will be 11am (Iraqi time) not 11 in the evening.  In any case, the call centers are closed for Christmas, so there is no point standing outside the banks.  You won’t know which are the exchange centers anyway…

Caller: So we should be done by the 1st in any case.

Tony:  The plan has always been for us to exchange by the 1st, but we were scheduled to start on the 18th before there were all these last minute delays…

718 caller:  You stated earlier someone had exchanged all four currencies.  Do you know how many zeroes were lopped off?

Tony: Six zeroes is what I heard.

301 caller:  I just wanted to tell you about what we’ll be doing with our funds and also someone asked how to help Iraq.  Crisis Rescue International is in Kurdistan right now providing shelter, food and water. They also helped with Katrina, in the Midwest with their storm, Haiti, and many other disaster areas. I’ve been working with them for a few years.  I help with pediatric trauma;  it’s a way to enjoy my retirement and do some good.  You can look it up online – Crisis Rescue International – and they do good work.

Tony:  That is a good way to give back – thanks.

406 caller:  So you said that Iraqi television says they are announcing the RV at 11am tomorrow, is that right?  When can we exchange?  What about the dong?

Tony:  They are announcing the signing of the 2015 budget, and they have to have a realistic rate to do that.  I see us getting started with exchanging on Friday.  I don’t yet know the 800 numbers or instructions, but they do want as many as possible by the end of the year.  My understanding is that all four currencies are in the basket together.

305 caller:  I’ve been investigating the banks, and not all have the Delarue machine, and some banks say they have to send currency away for three weeks. I’m not comfortable with that.

Tony:  Some banks send currency to their regional center, but as long as you have the receipt and watch it go into the bag, I’d been fine with that.  As for the three weeks – if they say that, find a different bank.

Caller:  Thank you, Mrs. Renfrow, for sharing YOU with all for all these years.  She must be an unselfish person, and I thank her for being a great woman behind you, supporting you.  One day I hope to meet you because I love you all, especially your mother.  I want to thank you in person.  I know you are a giver, like me, and this time I am holding some back for myself. Thank you Pam, RayRen, and DC, all the Mods and the TNT family:  Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year.  Let’s show them that once the Lord has blessed us, we can hold onto it.

Tony:  Pam says it is time to go.  Pam, did we get all the Mods in?

Pam:  Most of them.  We certainly appreciate all the Mods, and all the guest Mods as well.  I don’t know what we’d do without you guys – you are amazing! Merry Christmas, bless you all, we are blessed to be here and anything else is just amazing.

Ray:  Just continue to enjoy this wealth-seeking, wealth-revealing, wealth-all-in-your-face Wednesday!

Tony:  Thanks to all our service people, globally.  There is an agreement in place, on track to let this go through.  Once we see the budget, the rate is in that and we should be able to go from that point.  After that, I don’t know what we’re doing.  I know they want us to put out the 800 number and give you instructions for 4-7 days, I’m just not sure when that starts.  If there is no leadership, any idiot will tell people what to do and they will run to the bank, which will mean chaos.  We wanted this before Christmas to buy lavish gifts, but if we hear tonight, we can still feel blessed, knowing we can give our families great things, investing well and creating a legacy.  This is still a Christmas gift even if we can’t spend it immediately.  That’s how I look at it.  I’m excited!  I can’t wait to see what will happen and what I wake up to. God willing this will be over and we will have a great call on Friday.  I thank all our service people overseas, our veterans, and all the government people who are supporting us.  Merry Christmas to all of you!  Enjoy Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and hopefully on Friday we’ll be talking as richer people!  Enjoy the rest of your day!

SUNNY POST FROM TNT : TONY'S CLIFF NOTES, 24 DEC

Highlights of Tony's CC.   Formatting not working well - you get what you see.  Company due shortly - Sunny

Tony:  All you've been hearing is true. Iraq on TV saying make an announcement tomorrow on 11th hour of the 25th - going to do a public vote on 2015 budget and will "take effect immediately".  . . Don't need the budget since the RV was already in the 2014 budget.
Even though they say they are going to vote on the 11th hour . . . it is done and has been done. That is just the announcement.

Tony:  I don't know when we will get the info or how they are going to do it.   
Wait till Tony sends the 800# or gets direction.  They do not want people panicking/sitting at the banks Fri. morning.  
Do not bombard the banks and give them reason to shut it down because it's too chaotic. 
Tony:  "I’m not going till I get the 800# or directions."
Tony: About the Sony hack. It absolutely upset me when they cancelled the movie so I am ecstatic to know they are playing the movie tomorrow on Christmas Day.  We should never give in (to something like that.)
  • Things will not start till the Dec 26th.  There was no point in starting anything for a half day on the 24th.  If it happens in an hour the banks have been told it will be Friday morning to begin.
  • Remember time is not too critical to Iraq.  It could be done earlier or later.  Should be on CBI and Tony hope's to be tweeting it out by Friday morning.  Tony:  11 doesn't mean they won't do it at 12, 1 ,3 or 5

  •  Call Centers will not be open until Friday morning - you won't get an appointment or know exchange locations until you can call.
  • Plan is for us, TNT - Internet Dinarland- to be done by the 1st.
  • ZIM - still hearing 6 zero lop
  • TonyI know someone who exchanged all 4 currencies at a bank on Monday
  • Ray - knows a lady who was quoted $1.68 at the bank, ran home to get her currency and the screen no longer at a rate when she got back to the bank.  Another person Ray knew was going to exchange and he has not been heard from since.
Paper Boy, JayBird and David M came on the phone and wished everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  Paper Boy thanked everyone for their prayers for his recovery.
Caller: Tax question. Was it last year or 2012 they started giving out actual cash for an RV that hadn't happened? If goes into 2015 and RV not officially happened, then they would have to create a law to cover everyone. Perhaps in the delay we end up not paying tax because the greedy people got paid.
Tony:  Yes, it might work in our favor.

CLOSING STATEMENTS:

PAM:  Don’t know what we would do without the mods.  They are amazing.  Bless you all.  Merry Christmas.  We are already blessed to be here.  Anything else is amazing and heaven sent.

RAY: Continue to enjoy this wealth seeking, wealth revealing in your face Wednesday.

TONY:  Everything we hearing is right on track.  An agreement in place to let this go thru.  Iraq on TV telling their people    Rate is in the new budget as it was in the 2014 budget. . . I know they want us to put out the 800 # and instructions.  Don’t know if that starts Fri. morning, evening Sat.  Hope someone gives us something before that.  No leadership and chaos will reign.
It’s Christmas time and we wanted all this before Christmas so we could buy lavecous gifts but if we find out . . .we can celebrate tomorrow.  Bless our families and insure we have a legacy and a future.  .. . Still a Christmas gift to us.

26th is a good day to get started.
Can’t wait for Santa to come.  Can’t wait to see what I will wake up too.  Appreciate all of you – all the military overseas, all our veterans who have helped this come through – government people who have supported us.  Merry Christmas to all of us. . . Enjoy tonight.  Enjoy the rest of your day.

PAM:  Merry Christmas everybody!!!  

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 24 DEC

2-24-2014  *** Dinar Guru Newsflash ***  We are nearing a guru consensus...they agree, Shabibi,the former governor of the Central Bank of Iraq, has been cleared of all charges filed against him by former PM Maliki and will be reinstated as CBI governor shortly...Additionally, gurus are reporting and articles align that the COM has passed the budget and have forwarded it along to parliament...it will arrive on their desk for a vote/discussion on Thursday (Christmas day)!  Stay tuned as guru reports come in.  
12-24-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23   Earlier today in Iraq, the banking call center hours were taken down...These hours a few weeks ago were extended from 3:30pm closing to 11:30pm... Today [Tuesday] the hours of operation came down...3 centers now operating 24hrs a day....As of today.  Confirmed!

12-24-2014   Newshound Guru sczin11
    THE DIFFERENCE TODAY, VERSUS LAST YEAR AND THE YEARS BEFORE...WE HAVE A SEATED GOVERNMENT NOW, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE MALIKI AT THE TOP... FIRST JUBOURI WAS RACING TO GET THE HOUSE IN ORDER, THEN ABADI AND MASAUM CONTINUED THE RACE...WE HAVE NEVER HAD LAWS PASSED AND WRITTEN AT THE SPEED THEY ARE NOW...AS A MATTER OF FACT, JUST THE OPPOSITE...THEY SAT ON DESKS FOR YEARS AND YEARS...GLOBAL BANKS DIDNT OPEN IN THE COUNTRY...GLOBAL COMPANIES WERENT JUMPING IN...EMBASSIES OPENING UP...QATAR, SAUDIA ARABIA, KUWAIT...YES THE COUNTRY IRAQ DESTROYED 23 YEARS AGO...THEY ARE ON BOARD...THEY ARE BROTHERS... THEY SHARE A PIPELINE...THE NEWS IS FAST AND FURIOUS!   

12-24-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 
 MERRY CHRISTMAS RICH FRIENDS...ALL IS AWESOME IN DINAR LAND. WE ARE LOOKING VERY GOOD AND EVERY SOURCE AND ALL NEWS HAVE ALL COME INTO ALIGNMENT AND UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENS BAD WE SHOULD BE SEEING THE PROMISLAND WITHIN THE NEXT 10 DAYS OR LESS. 

12-24-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   [does the budget have to be made law and appear in the Gazette?]  THE ANSWER IS YES...THE WAY THEIR LAWS ARE MADE "LAW" IS THAT THEY READ IT TWICE AND VOTE AND THEN THEY ARE LAW BY PRINTING THEM IN THE GAZETTE --- EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE ALL AT THE SAME TIME...THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL LAWS VOTED THROUGH AND THEN HAVE A MASSIVE PRINT IN THE GAZETTE THAT WOULD KEEP THEM FROM BEING AGAINST THEIR OWN LAWS IN GOVERNMENT OPERATION -- BUT THAT IS MY THEORY OF HOW THEY COULD ACCOMPLISH THIS...  [post 2 of 2]

12-24-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday   THE BUDGET IS TO BE VOTED THROUGH ON THE SPOT ON >>>THURSDAY<<<MERRY CHRISTMAS!  [ if the budget is done thurs does that mean fri is our day?]  NO --- IT MEANS THAT THE BUDGET WILL BE DONE AND IRAQ WILL BE READY FOR MONEY TO BE DISBURSED TO ALL PROVINCES FOR CONTRACTS...NO ONE KNOWS THE DATE OR THE RATE. 

JCR3758 TWEETS , 24 DEC

Enjoy this Christmas Eve knowing that our financial blessing is coming but don't forget your other blessings. Share w your family & friends
JC ‏@JCR3758 1m1 minute ago UST has authorized the banks to get ready & educate their people on the proper procedures and handling. They are on very high alert.
JC ‏@JCR3758 5m5 minutes ago There are no delays and exchanging will run till the end of month and resume in Jan. Appts will be scheduled based on how fast you call in.
JC ‏@JCR3758 8m8 minutes ago Iraq can still officially release it today. Only people w special invitations are exchanging today.
JC ‏@JCR3758 11m11 minutes ago Yes it is true that Parliament is expected to make an announcement on the budget tomorrow at 11AM their time. Should be final approval.

TONY TIDBIT, 24 DEC

Vintage Sheila wrote
12m ago
T - ALL YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING IS TRUE, THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN IRAQ IS TO BE MADE TOMORROW ON THE 11TH HOUR OF THE 25TH. VOTE ON THE BUDGET.
T - EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THE 11TH HOUR ON TH 25TH, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. THERE ARE A FEW FRIVOLOUS LAWS TO BE VOTED ON. THIS IS JUST A WAY TO STRETCH THIS MOMENT IN TIME OUT FOR WHATEVER REASONS.
joshua wrote
11m ago
IT COULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED AT ANY POINT IN TIME - IT IS ALREADY DONE - JUST THE ANNOUNCEMENT TIME THEY ARE A FEW THINGS TO VOTE ON PRIOR TO THAT UT THE REST OF IT HAS JUST BEEN A WAY TO STRETCHING THIS OUT - DONE WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT
T - YOU WILL HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS AFTER THE 25TH BECAUSE TOMORROW WE WILL KNOW THIS HAS OCCURRED.
T: THE ONLY THING WE DON'T KNOW IS IT'LL START TONIGHT, BANKS AREN'T OPENING UNTIL DEC. 26. WE DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. I'M ASKING YOU TO WAIT UNTIL I SEND OUT 800#
T - WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT EVERYONE. I AM NOT GOING TO THE BANK UNTIL I GET THE PACKAGE. SO PLEASE DON'T START CALLING THE BANKS. HOPEFULLY, WE WILL HAVE SOME GUIDANCE BY THAT TIME THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THIS INFO OUT BEFORE THE BANKS OPEN ON THE 26TH. JUST BE SENSIBLE. MORE THAN US. WILL AFFECT EVERYONE.
T - THE BANKS HAVE BEEN TOLD TO BE PREPARED ON FRIDAY. IRAQ IS SUPPOSED TO GO TOMORROW AT 11AM THEIR TIME. THEN ANNOUNCEMENT WILL BE ANNOUNCED.
darlini wrote
6m ago
T: NEWS IS GOOD AS FAR AS WE CAN SEE. BANKS TOLD TO BE PREPARED FOR FRIDAY. IRAQ IS SCHEDULED TO GO TOMORROW AT 11 . VOTES IN TRUTH HAVE BEEN TAKEN. COULD THEY GO EARLIER OR LATER. YES.

S3A CHAT UPDATE : Q & A, 24 DEC

  • Exo, is this statement in your last post something we should be concerned about? "AS A HEAVY HITTER ONCE STATED "HE PRAYED THAT THE POLITICIANS AND THE GLOBAL ELITE AND THE BANKSTERS DID NOT GET INVOLVED WITH THE RV/GCR BEFORE PUBLIC EXCHANGES STARTED, BECAUSE IF AND ONCE THEY DID, THERE WOULD BE NO INCENTIVE TO MAKE SURE DINARLAND WAS COMPENSATED AS THE  DINAR LAND EXCHANGES AND GENRAL PUBLIC EXCHANGES, ALONG WITH DINAR LAND PRIVATE GROUP EXCHANGES WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON THE TOP OF THE PRIORITY LIST AS BILLIONS ARE MADE DAILY WITHOUT DINARLAND..................."

    • WE ARE CURRENTLY LIVING THIS IN REAL TIME
    • That don't sound good :(

    • We have all heard plenty of stories of private buy/sell of IQD, coordinated through UST and WM, for rates established elsewhere, but not widely available.
      Someone walking in the door at the local bank might get lucky when just by an chance, they ask their local bank teller, "How much is the exchange rate for VND right now?" They might have found a rate that was on screen for only a short window-time that their bank honored.
      Yes, we are living this in real time. Coordinated "window-time" arrangements where the rate is showing high, yet our bank is not open and the teller isn't available.... (as in "overnights"). It's all been going on for months and months.
  • Exo can you expound upon  a  strategy to exchange the Zim that is being discussed among your contacts?  Thank you  and of course , just your opinion. 
    • ZIM is not exchanged using normal exchange centers and banks. They currently have no protocols for this. Should the banks receive instructions this will change. Right now they have no idea what a 100 T ZIM note is worth and no idea what to do with it.
      We understand that there are private groups that have contracted for the 50 and 100 T ZIM notes in their oil and gas trade deal.
  • Most do not have the means to set up LLCs foundations or LLCs within foundations prior to the exchange appointment. How will this be possible if you sign a contract stating a large percentage of the money will be held in the bank? Also, if one is to use an outside firm to manage wealth. How do you commit to the bank wealth managers in order to secure a rate and then secure outside management? I want to know if committing your money to the contract rate puts you in a contract with the bank which may not allow outside influences. Please advise. Thank you!
    • Thank you Carden for your very eloquent and informative response. I understand fully what you're saying and I appreciate and will be looking for all the traps and potential benefits. I've been an educator for 22 years and I know how to read between the lines. You are appreciated!!
    • Sam, these questions involve a lot longer discussion than this discussion thread. Each has been discussed in depth in earlier threads in pieces. Most of the threads published can be found in the archives. Here's one answer for you:
      How do you commit to the bank WM in order to secure a rate and then secure outside management? YOU DON'T.  The banks want to hold onto your money and have negotiated for this right if their clients take "contract rate". They each will offer their own options/recipe for legacy planning/annuity and you will have a very limited selection. THIS IS ONLY TRUE IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW TO BENEFIT FROM CONTRACT RATE. We have been told that a portion of your proceeds will be liquid and it is this liquid portion that you can move as you like.

      Bottom line, no one knows what the WF contract offering holds as this has not been given. No one knows what the tax consequences will be as this is 2014 and we've got 2015 coming fast. What are the tax implications for 2015? They change the first of the year. What nefarious EO will be pulled out of this president's butt? I heard from someone that there would be a 73% tax on profit earned from "foreign currency exchange" which sounds a lot like us. For my part, and this is my advice, consider everything as "rumor" until you get the facts and are standing in front of your banker, with your CPA by your side.
      Good morning team...
      How is it possible for PA to exchange dong and not be available everywhere in the U.S.?

    • Good question. Yesterday I walked into my WF bank and asked that same question. The WM there even got on the phone to call the main line and ask if anyone knew about this. I couldn't hear the other end of the line but I'm sure the person speaking was unaware of this disparity.

  • When will the Treasury Platform start? Need the RV/GCR first?

    • LV, the term "platform" as used here is meant as an account, set aside for a specific purpose in this case, the RV of our currencies. Likely there will be accounts for each currency. There are oil and gas trade contracts, and each contract is a "platform". So there are multiple "platforms", one for each contract. The Treasury Platform has already started. The UST has been involved in buying large pallets of IQD and VND for over a year now. We are waiting on our specific platforms, meaning the private groups. The PUBLIC EXCHANGE is not a "platform" as no contracts will be involved. It's business as usual. Walk up to the window, give them your dollars and get your exchange.
      Hope that explanation helps.
      To answer your question.... when will the private groups MOVE LIKE A BOULDER ROLLING DOWNHILL? That's what we all want to know.

    • Some have been rumored to have already received their funds, but not paid out down the line yet. Can you confirm any of that yet?

  • Once RV & S4A go live, and we (I) exchange a portion or all of my foreign currency: Will S4A have investment avenues available to offer us and assist with the various strategies out there? Including a safe place to park our Mother Lode until we figure things out?
    • THERE IS NO 1 SET PLACE TO PARK
      1. MCA ACCOUNTS
      2. 770 ACCOUNTS
      3. INSURANCE POLICIES
      4. ANNUITIES
      5. 1031 EXCHANGES
      6. NNN LEASSES
      7. REITS
      8. NIB ACCOUNTS
      9. ATTORNEY ESCROW ACCOUNTS
      AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON

    • Thank you Exo & Merry Christmas to you!!

  • Good morning, Exo & Intel Team.. I have a friend in Mexico holding Zim. Do you think banks there would exchange Zim or is that only WF here in the US?
    Merry Christmas.
    • AJ, there are NO options for ZIM in Mexico at this time. If I were the party holding ZIM, I would give it away to you to manage. Anyone holding any exotic currency in Mexico better have their receipts in hand and proof that the receipts are real. Seriously. The government is cracking down on money laundering aggressively and anything that looks the least bit suspicious is taken from the holder. People are in jail now for having VND in Mexico and not having a viable/provable receipt demonstrating where they got it.
      The banks in Mexico exchanged VND over a year ago, with a rate showing on screen > $1. They took the VND into the bank to normal exchange procedures and issued a deposit slip to the client with the commitment that within 24 hours their money would be available. The VND was sent through BANAMEX to process and from their to UST as normal course of business. The people never got their money for this exchange. They got a deposit slip and a statement from the Minister of Finance that all VND moneys deposited were suspected of money laundering and proof of purchase was required. Some had kept their receipts others had not. Those that kept their receipts still lost their VND because "it was brought into Mexico illegally" as in unclaimed currency. Those that did not have receipt are still in jail, months later.  Be very careful here.
  • THE ZIM IS A CURRENCY YOU MAY NEED A SERIOUS PLAN "B" EXCHANGE STRATEGY WITH

    • Merry Christmas all, i have a couple of questions, they have come up before but never reallly answered.
      1. Will MCA accounts be protected from bailins? I would think that any money in a bank, whatever currency it is, would be a "asset" of the bank...
      2. We hear about the new TRNs, but how do we know what we are getting when we exchange? And in the US wouldnt they be exchange one for one anyway? Does it really matter in the US?
      3.How do we really make a accurate decision about taxes due when there "is no rules" and 2015 is only a week away? Will the rate be better or worse?
      S3Alpha, you folks have really opened my eyes to whats going on around me, thanks for all that you do, i will be on board for S4  Merry Christmas to you all!

      • 1. WITH AN MCA ACCOUNT YOUR MONEY IS IN THE FOREIGN CURRENCY FORM, AND NOT USD. TYPICALLY WHEN COUNTRY BAIL INS TAKE PLACE THEY INCLUDE THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY, NOT FOREIGN CURRENCY HOLDINGS.
        2. PLAN AND PREPARE FOR EVERYTHING
        3. THERE ARE NO DEFINITE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTION, YOU HAVE TO PLAN FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE THERE ARE NO RULES
      • thank you exo   merry xmas to u!
  • Thank you Exo