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Wednesday, December 17, 2014

DC POST: EXCERPT FROM TNT CC, 17 DEC

12-17-14 DC: In Iraq, there are lots of things scrolling on news reports, saying that Iraq will have the biggest economic reform since 2003, and it specifically says that falling oil prices will not affect this.  It will happen in the next few days; they will bring out the budget and complete economic reforms.

They are anticipating this at any moment there...Security is ramped up at the CBI; banks have been training since Monday. They were told to be ready at any time from now for the next couple of days, coordinated with the CBI, the PM, and international teams...they are saying in the bank and CBI meetings that “the US has given the green light” and that “they have freed all constraints” because Iraq has “completed all marks”.
There have been last minute changes to the rollout plan... is what we understand right now.  This IS subject to change – everyone remain flexible. Right now, they have planned this:  let’s say Iraq goes tomorrow or Friday. The US would then put the word out very discreetly at the banks and through a few dinar gurus.
We will send out the 800 numbers for the banks...We are in high alert, everyone is there, and Iraqi television is still scrolling that they are expecting this now.  Everyone has been given the green light on both sides of the pond. They are in agreement and I’m pretty excited and you should be, too. 

SUNNY POST FROM TNT: TNT CLIFF NOTES, 17 DEC

Highlights of Tony's CC - One hour call only - Sunny

In Iraq everything is planned to be announced before Friday morning.  US roll out after that.

Tony . . . And we do think this is our weekend!

DC:  We are in high alert . . . they are expecting this now.  Everyone has been given the green light on both sides of the pond. They are in agreement and I’m pretty excited and you should be, too.

IRAQ:  Expecting economic reform changes any moment there.  They voted on the budget, and the Council of ministers approved the economic reform last night.   Talking publicly about the budget coming out.  Sunday is a holiday in Iraq. The GOI is to release the budget and complete economic reforms.  Everything is planned to be announced before Friday morning. (Iraq time as I understand it)

  • TV/News:  saying Iraq will have the largest economic reform since 2003 and that it “will go down in history.” Specifically saying falling oil prices will not affect this.                                     
  • CBI:  banks have been reviewing training since Monday and security is in place.  CBI, the GOI PM and international teams are all cordinated with each other and it could go any time now to the next couple of days.  
  • ISIL:  have redone their plans for dealing with ISIL
  • Budget vote was taken and although the budget is not vital to the economic reforms happening they wanted to adjust for the decrease in oil prices.
The Iraq public is cynical about the US because they know it’s been stopped many times by their ‘international partners.”  In CBI and bank meetings they are saying “the US has given the green light” and freed Iraq from all constraints as Iraq has met all their "marks." 

UNITED STATES:   The administration is still working on how to roll this out in the US.
  • UST and IMF have given their consent in the US, and bankers have been ramping up with their pre-game checks today. 
  • Banks:  doing pre-game checks today.  Doing final walk throughs this afternoon.

LATEST USA ROLL OUT PLAN: as always it’s subject to change -  As soon as Iraq goes, the:

  • 1)  US will put the word out very discreetly and quietly at the banks and through a few dinar gurus.  
  • 2) Tony/DC will send out the 800 numbers and other appointment numbers for the banks through tweets and emails. Remember only one bank is required to take everyone.  Other banks have minimum amounts they want to do business.  Each bank has different criteria. 
  • 3)  Tony/DC will have calling explaining the process and which banks will be appropriate in which regions.  Right now the guys are planning on 4-7 days of these type calls.  There will be others besides TNT doing this.

If the web sites are shut down Tony says make sure you are on the TNT Twitter list so you can be communicated with.
  • Banks:  The banks will work through the holiday season, including half a day on Christmas Eve and New Year’s Eve.
  • Contract Rate available for both Dinar and Dong.

DC:   There have been last minute changes to the rollout plan, and this is what we understand right now.  This IS subject to change – everyone remain flexible.  

DC:  We will get the information first because we are paying attention. Our friends and family will get the information next, and then the general public after January 2nd.  That is what we have – real and live information, 45 minutes old!

CLOSING STATEMENTS:

DC:  We are in high alert, everyone is there, and Iraqi television is still scrolling that they are expecting this now.  Everyone has been given the green light on both sides of the pond. They are in agreement and I’m pretty excited and you should be, too.

Pam:  I hope the other sites will be responsible and help people.  Check the rates on the various sites like Yahoo Finance. You guys know what you need to know.

Ray:  [singing] “We’re gonna’ have a good time tonight." 
Tony: We will try to help as many people as possible, see if we can expand our service because I think some sites will be down and we may have more people on the calls for the next four to seven days.  We will try to help everyone through this.  Hopefully the next text, tweet or call will be the one.  If someone cannot get on twitter, we will send out a Tony blast, and also make sure someone who does get the tweets can call you, because I cannot call everyone individually.  They said they are announcing this before Friday Iraqi time – that’s their plan.  Our plan is for Iraq to get it first, then us.  Enjoy your day!

TNT CC NOTES, 17 DEC

12-17-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):
Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=63631668Tony: Good afternoon, TNT!  Today is Wednesday, December 17, 2014, four hours later than our usual call.  I’m still eating, so everyone wait for a moment! [chitchat]

It was a great call – wait, we just started!  Alright, it’s a superfantastic day, with great information that many have already seen. We’ll confirm some stuff and tell you what’s next.  Right, DC?  DC?

DC:  If anyone doubts it, this is completely live!

Tony:  We can do the timeline and how it occurred. The information was out there yesterday, starting Monday afternoon, but I don’t’ post a lot because it changes all the time.  We don’t want to put out info what we we’re not supposed to put out, so we wait until it gets to a  point where they all agree or it’s too late to change anything. We try to save everything for the calls. We will put out the information as soon as the RV happens, we won’t wait on that.

DC:  Thanks for waiting, it will be worth the wait because we could confirm more information.  Bottom line, in Iraq, there are lots of things scrolling on news reports, saying that Iraq will have the biggest economic reform since 2003, and it specifically says that falling oil prices will not affect this.  It will happen in the next few days;  they will bring out the budget and complete economic reforms. They are anticipating this at any moment there, and they have talked publicly about the budget coming out.  That is not a vital part, but it’s better if the real numbers are loaded into it first time round.  They just wanted to adjust that for the decrease in oil prices.

Security is ramped up at the CBI;  banks have been training since Monday.  They were told to be ready at any time from now for the next couple of days, coordinated with the CBI, the PM, and international teams.  The public in Iraq are cynical about the US because they know it’s been stopped by the ‘international partners”, but now they are saying in the bank and CBI meetings that “the US has given the green light” and that “they have freed all constraints” because Iraq has “completed all marks”. Security is all ready to go, live in Iraq.  They redid their plan on ISIL, and their plans are very positive.

Tony: They have taken the vote on the budget, and the Council of ministers approved the economic reform last night.  Everything is planned to be announced before Friday morning, and the citizens should enjoying the weekend because Sunday is a holiday in Iraq.  It has been announced on television, and said that Iraq’s economy will be better than since 2003, with the largest economic reform in Iraq – “this will go down in history”.

DC:  There were some last minute things to check here, but the UST and IMF have given their consent in the US, and bankers have been ramping up with their pre-game checks today.  A lot of last minute ‘education’ has been going on between the administration and both side about how to roll it out in the USA.

Tony:  Banks are having final walk throughs this afternoon…

DC:   There have been last minute changes to the roll out plan, and this is what we understand right now.  This IS subject to change – everyone remain flexible.  Right now, they have planned this:  let’s say Iraq goes tomorrow or Friday. The US would then put the word out very discreetly at the banks and through a few dinar gurus.  We will send out the 800 numbers for the banks through tweets and emails. One bank is forced to take veryone;  other banks have minimum amounts they want to do business, or only those in their local area.  They each have different criteria.  They will use the exisiting commmunciation factors, such as Tony and myself who have email and twitter lists to send out the information and help explain the process, walking your through which banks will be appropriate in which regions.  There will be at least four and maybe seven days of these calls. The banks will work through the holiday season, including half a day on Christmas Eve and New Year’s Eve.

Running over it again:  as soon as the fireworks go off, Tony and I will put out the 800 numbers and other appointment numbers.  Then we will have calls to explain what to do depending on your region and what their criteria (and process) will be.  That is what we are supposed to do now, subject to change. We will not be the only ones doing this, so if you don’t like us, that doesn’t hurt our feelings.

Tony:  It doesn’t hurt our feelings at all;  in fact, I’m trying to figure out how to eliminate some people!  I don’t know how we will communicate with you if they shut the sites down.  We will only have twitter, so make sure you are on our twitter list if you aren’t already.  Some people will be shut down, so stay with us if you choose.  I talked to Pam about opening up our forum again, but frankly, I don’t want the idiots back on our site.

DC: They are trying to slow down the numbers coming in, so they don’t get five million people coming in on the first day. We will get the information first because we are paying attention. Our friends and family will get the information next, and then the general public after 2. January.  That is what we have – real and live information, 45 minutes old!

Tony:  Hopefully we will get an update because I’m still trying to figure out the site they told me about.  It could go at any  minute from this point onward – everyone has been given the green light, they are ready and going through their final checks. They had their last meetings last night, everything has been completed and announced.

DC:  As a favor, as well as this being One-Question Wednesday, just give us two sentences of something nice you are going to do with this RV…

941 caller: If we go before the number is commonly known, how do we go from a phone number you give us to being bona fide UST customers?

DC:  It will be posted on the CBI site, and not many people go there.  The numbers we are given will be the numbers for the banks, to help with the information flow.

Tony: I don’t know how many different numbers there will be;  they have to give us at least a static page because no one will remember them all from the call. I’ll figure that out as soon as we start the calls. We will get a day of training before we start to explain the process on these calls. They will not want me to be giving my own opinion, I feel sure!

Caller:  Nice things for the holidays?  I am giving a young single mom my pickup truck!

828 caller:  Iraq is supposed to go by Friday, and after that you will publish the numbers, but it’s in our best interest NOT to call them until you do the training and do the call that will explain things?

Tony: That’s what we’re being told, but it doesn’t make sense because you’ll want to get in there as quickly as possible to have a chance at the contract rates.

DC:  We don’t get it either, and we don’t know the answer yet either.  But it isn’t a long gap – it will be hours and then we will be in training and then…

Tony: We’re supposed to get the numbers as soon as it happens, and we’ll figure it out.

Caller:  For the holidays/RV, we are going to get rid of the homeless in Ashville by giving everyone a place to live!

269 caller:  Will you be telling us the rates when you tweet out, or will that be in the call?

DC:  We don’t know.

Tony:  If we are doing all the banks, and if they do different rates… but they should be fixed.  They want to do it before Friday morning (they said in Iraq) so that will be their time.

Caller:  I want to adopt a family for Christmas, and if the RV comes through by then, I’ll adopt all the families.

310 caller:  Tony, I’ve always wondered if you were joking about Texas…

Tony:  I pick on Texas because part of my intel team is in Texas, so it’s a joke.

Caller:  I just wondered, because it sounded like you really hate them!  I’m from California, originally from back east, and I think that Texans are so independent, capable and resilient, so it was strange to me that they were being joked about!  So I wanted to check!

Tony:  Apparently a certain politician wants to have a conversation with  me about Texas.  When I first talked to DC, he mentioned all these Texans who jumped on the bus to run to the bank…

DC:  No, it came from bankers who asked us to stop these calls because of the busses showing up at their banks!

410 caller:  There is a foundation in my city that supports women in recovery;  it educates them and gives them a home to get to.  But when they qualify, they have made statements that mean they lose their kids to foster homes until they get out.  So we want to provide for them and also change the law so that they don’t lose their kids by wanting to improve their lives.  So that will give me a project for a while.

561 caller:  This is the first time I’ve gotten through.  I’m more into the other currencies;  do you think they will offer a contract rate for the dinar because I have a lot of dong?  I gave a lot of my dinar away.  That is, will it be an aggregate amount that they consider?  I have half a million dinar, and maybe 20m dong, so…

Tony:  Oh, yeah, whatever the criteria, if you have more volume, they want your money. There is a contract rate for both of them and someone has to get it, so why not you?  Hopefully we will know as soon as we get the instructions.  And we do think this is our weekend, so over the holidays…

Caller:  I am going to help the needy people in my church who are not full members yet, helping the ones that they don’t help to get food on their tables and gifts for their kids.

Tony: A church should help everybody and not pick and choose who is needy.  There is a church I know of that you can’t be a member unless you bring in your tax returns, so they know how much you should give to the church.  That’s not how I was brought up…

301 caller:  I was on DinarGurus earlier and they said 28. February, but you cleared that up.  What I plan if this happens this weekend is to give back to Washington DC schools.

Tony:  I like that everyone is going to do a lot of good things, and that should people should have turkeys and clothes and gifts.   A lot are planning to give ot organizations;  please check out those organizations and find out how much goes to the people they are helping, not just to shiny buildings and the CEO’s car.  If you want to do this, go door to door in a poor neighborhood and hand out food baskets.  Pull a truck into an apartment complex, and hand out food and clothes, and know you are having an impact on ordinary people’s lives.  That’s what I plan to do, so I know I’ve changed someone’s life.  Do that and things will be so upfront and real.  Donating is good – just do your homework before donating.

360 caller:  Hey!  I lived in Alaska for years, and we thought about cutting Alaska in half so Texas could be the third biggest state.  I also live in NZ part of the time, and I sent you some money from there.  I’ve seen people pay for layaways, and I’d like to hang around grocery stores or have an arrangement with the managers so that people in need could have their food paid for, for people who don’t expect it.  If, for some reason, this doesn’t get done, and if the US falls into disfavor, is there a Plan B?  If the rate is released internationally and not in the US, can we still exchange elsewhere?

DC:  We came close to that several times and cooler heads prevails.  The UN and other organizations allow for the free flow of money and goods, and that forces the issues on that.  They could have made it difficult to exchange here, but that would be a different issue as they have put a lot of banking regs in place just to stop that. So it doesn’t make sense  for it to be released internationally and not in the US.  By the way, I love your idea!

Tony:  I have more confidence in what’s going on right now, because there are things that have happened this week that we haven’t told you yet… and I will ask DC to explain them to you.  Let’s start with unpegging the dinar and pegging it to the FDR.

DC:  These holdups have aggravated a lot of people, and eventually they got the message that the dinar was to be pegged to the US dollar, but it will now be pegged to  a basket of currencies of which the US dollar will be a part.  That makes the Iraqi dinar another of the foundational currencies. This doesn’t affect the announcement of the RV, and it was just agreed in the last ten days.  There is a connection with the dropping oil prices.  When most of this planning was done in the 1950s, then in the 1990s, nobody thought oil would be $50.  They thought it would be $30 maximum, and one study said it would be $8.  So they had to do a lot of studies to justify different rates.  The rate of about $3 was based even on that $8, and now there is a more stable government, better pumping technologies, and much larger reserves than anyone expected.  All that means that they are making dang sure that they have  plenty no matter the price of oil might be. So they can certainly support the  mid-three dollar deal, and that makes for a stable environment for this RV.  They would have preferred $100 price for oil, of course, but they are fine at $60,and the economic stimulus of this will bring the oil prices back up to $80 or so in any case.

Tony:  The FCR was approved.  Oil prices are so low right now, that some countries have been forced to sell their foreign currency reserves, such as Iran and Russia.  If you don’t have much in savings and your income gets cut by 30%, you’re going to hurt.  So in fact, this is the perfect time, and that gives us more confidence that this IS the right time. It’s also scrolling across their televisions screens as we speak, even on the late-night news.  So they are prepared and everyone is ready.  We actually came on late because we thought we would be doing the RV call this afternoon.  It will happen any moment.  DC?

DC:  We are in high alert, everyone is there, and Iraqi television is still scrolling that they are expecting this now.  Everyone has been given the green light on both sides of the pond. They are in agreement and I’m pretty excited and you should be, too.

Pam:  I hope the other sites will be responsible and help people.  Check the rates on the various sites like Yahoo Finance. You guys know what you need to know.

Ray:  [singing] “We’re gonna’ have a good time tonight”…

Tony: We will try to help as many people as possible, see if we can expand our service because I think some sites will be down and we may have more people on the calls for the next four to seven days.  We will try to help everyone through this.  Hopefully the next text, tweet or call will be the one.  If someone cannot get on twitter, we will send out a Tony blast, and also make sure someone who does get the tweets can call you, because I cannot call everyone individually.  They said they are announcing this before Friday Iraqi time – that’s their plan.  Our plan is for Iraq to get it first, then us.  Enjoy your day! 

EXOGEN LATEST CLUES & POPPY3 TIDBIT, 17 DEC

More Guesses to NEW Picture Clues/Intel: 

Vinman December 17, 2014 at 1:45pm

The old financial system is beginning to flat line.

Algorithms are being run to reset the new system and adjust currencies.

The old broken system will be put out to pasture soon.

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G T December 17, 2014 at 1:58pm Latest Clues.......

We HAVE SNOW......AGAIN!!!

Old System is being Scrapped for "Scrap Metal"

New Financial Formulas are updated with adjust Currency Rates

Magic out of the Hat is being dialed up

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Dinar Updates:

Poppy3  GLORY!!! GLORY!!! GLORY!!! RATE IS COMING!!! SANTA - RATE IS COMING TO TOWN...

REMEMBER EVERYONE BACK IN 2003 OIL PRICES WERE IN THE $60.00 DOLLAR RANGE SO NO WORRIES ABOUT THE RATE DROP EFFECTING THE INTRO MARKET RATE

MY LADIES UPDATE : "THINGS ARE REALLY HEATING UP", 17 DEC

MyLadies:  THE NEW YEAR IS UPON US AND THE PRESSURE IS ON IRAQ

GOOD WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON EVERYONE, SO HERE WE ARE ON THE DOORSTEP OF 2015 AND ALL THAT IS HAPPENING.

FOR STARTERS WE HAVE SEEN THAT HCL IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR JAN1,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/baghdad-and-kurds-reach-win-win-accord-over-oil-revenue/2014/12/02/68559698-7a2b-11e4-84d4-7c896b90abdc_story.html

AND NOW WE SEE THIS ARTICLE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC REFORMS AND THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND IRAQ TALKING ABOUT IT AS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC EVENT IN MODERN HISTORY SINCE 2003.

THOSE ARE VERY POWERFUL WORDS. THEY GO ON TO SAY THIS EVENT WILL BE COVERED BY ALL ACTIVITIES UNDERTAKEN BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

WONDERFUL NEWS AND POSSIBLY A TIME LINE WE CAN FOLLOW.
....
Economic Lowlight
Yasser incumbent few days and folded the public pages of "2014" to remember later that the government program was the most significant economic event in Iraq's modern history, being the first program after the year "2003" which meant economic affairs in a manner covering all aspects of the weaknesses and the way to address them and select the path of development true in the future. 

READ MORE HERE http://www.alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=82694

 WE GO ON TO LOOK AT ALL THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS IRAQ HAS MADE IN JUST 100 DAYS. ABADI HAS BEEN STICKING TO THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THEY DREW UP IN AUGUST AND IRAQ IS REALLY SHAPING UP AS A COUNTRY AS THEY ARE ACHIEVING GREAT SUCCESS PROVIDING A STABLE SECURE IRAQ.

READ MORE HERE  http://www.khabaar.net/index.php/permalink/36663.html

 WE ARE ALSO SEEING THAT ABADI HAS FIGURED OUT A WAY TO STIMULATE THE PRIVATE SECTOR. HE HELD A MEETING IN HIS HOME IN ABU DHABI FOR THE BUSINESS MEN OF IRAQ LIVING OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY.

THEY DISCUSSED CHALLENGES FACING THEM IN THE INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS TO SOLVE THEM IN AN EFFORT FOR THESE BUSINESS MEN TO HELP STIMULATE THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

READ MORE ABOUT IT HERE   http://www.alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=82693

SO WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS MEAN FOR US?


WELL WE FEEL THAT WE ARE FINALLY NOW IN THE BEST POSSIBLE POSITION TO SEE A RATE CHANGE.

AS WE HAVE STATED BEFORE WITH ALL OF THINGS THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THEY CAN NOT GO MUCH FURTHER WITH OUT AN INTERNATIONAL STAGE.

IF WE TAKE THE NEWS ARTICLES AWAY AND FORGET WHAT THEY’RE SAYING (BECAUSE BOY SOME OF THOSE ARTICLES CAN BE CONFUSING) BUT LOOK INSTEAD AT WHAT THEY’RE DOING I THINK WE CAN SEE THE RATE CHANGE ON THE NEAR HORIZON.

THE NEVER ENDING BUDGET SAGA MIGHT ACTUALLY END IN COMING DAYS.

THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXTRAORDINARY MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS TOMORROW TO VOTE ON THE BUDGET AND THEN SEND IT TO PARLIAMENT, SO LET’S SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT.

http://www.khabaar.net/index.php/permalink/36658.html

WE ALSO SEE MORE POWERFUL WORDS HERE FROM ZEBARI THE FINANCE MINISTER. IRA INTENDS TO FULL FILL IT’S INTERNATIONAL OBLIGATIONS WITH FRANCE AND ITALY RUSSIA AND TUNASIA TO NAME A FEW.
WELL IT WOULD SEEM LOGICAL TO ME THAT THE FIRST STEP IN FULL FILLING THOSE OBLIGATIONS SHOULD BE TO HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL CURRENCY.

Minister of Finance of the ambassadors of Italy, Russia, France and Tunisia are committed to policies meet international obligations

Wednesday, December 17, 1 / December 2014 20:40

Finance Minister Hoshyar Zebari, the federal government is keen to fulfill its international obligations and activating relations in various fields, especially economic.

http://alliraqnews.com/2011-04-18-02-57-37/159994-2014-12-17-17-40-42.html

SO THINGS ARE REALLY HEATING UP AND WE HAVE JUST 2 WEEKS UNTIL WE HIT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

HOPEFULLY BY THAT POINT WE WILL ALL BE SOMEWHERE ELSE DOING OTHER THINGS, BUT TIME WILL TELL.

IN THE EVENT WE ARE ALL STILL HERE WE WOULD WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY HEALTHY SAFE HOLIDAY SEASON.

LOVE TO ALL …MY LADIES

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 17 DEC

12-17-2014   Newshound Guru Enorrste   The difference between "may" and"must" have to do with two different things.  The CBI "must" get the street rate within 2% of the official rate.  Once that is done, however, the street rate "may" fluctuate +/- 1% as long as it stays within 2% of the official rate.  Remember, no one wants a "dirty exit" from the current exchange rate regime to a float, nor from Article XIV to Article VIII.  These are both "one way streets" and the IMF is insistent that  proper preparations be made PRIOR to acting.   The simple fact is that the IMF has done this many many times and they know what is necessary for a successful transition.   ...KAP [Guru Kaperoni]  found a specific statement that says that the CBI MUST do some certain things before they will be ALLOWED to make the transition.  This means that, behind the scenes, even though Iraq is sovereign, the IMF is really running the show.  They will guarantee success, and for that we should be patient and grateful!

12-17-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar
   Article quote:   "Yasser incumbent few days and folded the public pages of "2014" to remember later that the government program was the most significant economic event in Iraq's modern history"     ...this is something to watch.  My belief is that they are going to do it closer to the end of the month but who knows.  They are ready, able and it just could be that they are willing to do it now... a few days is better than in the next phase, or soon, or some other foolish lead.  The next few days to me means they will make an announcement of some kind that they themselves say is historic, sometime this week ending in Sunday the 21st.   

12-17-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23
  Few INTERESTING FACTS...The top 2 in order for the Kurds to participate in the GOI were  #1 The Federal Court Act.  #2 The HCL Agreement.  The Kurds demands had to be made good on by the end of December.  Another interesting fact is Barzani was made a permanent member of DAVOS (economic forum). One of Barzani's open words in media and to Baghdad ..."The Kurdistan region will not deal in the 3 zeros"...AND the ESX will not open and be dealing in the 3 zeros.  Yesterday an agreement was signed between Gorran and PUK on governing the city of Sulaimani.  The city has not had any operating "ports" for Qi card withdrawals and banks were held back on cash transfers.  The agreement opens the door now that the agreement is complete...And note: all before the END of DECEMBER.

12-17-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
  GLORY!!! GLORY!!! GLORY!!! RATE IS COMING!!! SANTA - RATE IS COMING TO TOWN...REMEMBER EVERYONE BACK IN 2003 OIL PRICES WERE IN THE $60.00 DOLLAR RANGE SO NO WORRIES ABOUT THE RATE DROP EFFECTING THE INTRO MARKET RATE.

12-17-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
    THEY ARE STATING THAT THE YEAR OF 2015 WILL BE REFLECTIVE OF THIS GREAT ECONOMIC EVENT AND THE PROGRAM UNITES ALL THE ECONOMIC VISIONS.   THE PRICE OF OIL WILL NOT STOP THE EVENT AND THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD.  SO THEY HOPE THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL SUCCEED AND ARE MOVING TO A MARKET ECONOMY...  [Does this mean not till 2015?]  NO THIS DID NOT GIVE A DATE BUT SAID WITHIN A FEW DAYS.  [Have they ever said "a few days" ever?]  ...NO THEY HAVE NEVER SAID THAT.   [post 2 of 2]

12-17-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday   
THIS NEWS IS AMAZING...  Article quote:  "Yasser incumbent few days and folded the public pages of "2014" to remember later that the government program was the most significant economic event in Iraq's modern history, being the first program after the year "2003" which meant economic affairs in a manner covering all aspects of the weaknesses and the way to address them and select the path of development true in the future."  THEY ARE SAYING THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN A FEW DAYS WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE FIRST ECONOMIC EVENT DESERVING SINCE 2003.   THIS WILL ALL BE ON THEIR NEWS AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GOV PROGRAMS AND HOW GREAT THEY ARE ECONOMICALLY.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

12-17-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni     Until the CBI can show that they can comply with Article VIII (and hold it for 90 days), how in the heck will they ever be able  to avail themselves from Article XIV to Article VIII? This is not an economic opinion or view that falls under some "disclaimer,"  it's an IMF rule...Simple as that!   I am also sure that the IMF's rule/requirement is posted in numerous places throughout the IMF website when referencing Article VIII compliance ...what is imperative is that the CBI must be in 2% compliance. The Article IV Consultation is very specific and explicit when it talks to the CBI about this issue.   As a result of the CBI not being able to get in compliance until Nov, they will not be able to request to exit XIV until at least Feb 28 or so. I am not saying they will request then, just that they cannot ask until then.  On a side note...was said on TV Monday in regard to the dinar...that nothing will be done until next year.  Which supports this information.

JCR3758 TWEETS, 17 DEC

JC (@JCR3758)12/17/14, 11:33 AM
Ok since I can't have you guys wait all day w/o any update I'll tell you that preparations are underway in Iraq. Expecting news late tonight


JC ‏@JCR3758 3m3 minutes ago
I may (MAY) have more later when verified. No hype or bs. Oh and save your donations, none requested here.

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 17 DEC

Stage3Alpha:

More Guesses to NEW Picture Clues/Intel


G T December 17, 2014 at 9:45am New Clues.....

ALL EYES ON Janet Yellen....at 2:00

The Plan is to Plunge The Back Up & & Move Fast

The Windows open for exchanging in 2014

But the plan is to move us Thru LiKE CATTLE!!
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Vinman The plan is in motion and moving fast for a short vs long window for 2014 exchange.  They exchange will be like herding cattle through a chute.

DaWu Still a window for 2014, looks like they're rounding everyone up and getting ready to herd us through. Certainly hope so anyway. Good morning everybody!

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EXOGEN December 17, 2014 at 11:01am

HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN GENERATED BY THE BANKSTERS WITH THE DROP IN VALUE WITH THE RUSSIAN CURRENCY?

NOW YOU UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE REASONS THE VALUE OF THE UNITED STATES DOLLAR INCREASED.....................

PART OF THE COLLAPSE RUSSIA PLAN AND NOW PEOPLE IN RUSSIA ARE RUNNING TO GET U.S. FIAT DOLLARS

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Springs > EXOGEN Very clever indeed for lying to people with two up coming worthless currency. Euro and FRN.

BlueEyedGoddess > EXOGEN Sticking them with more worthless currency.  Wow.

Dave > EXOGEN Well this will push the Brics campaign

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Russians Are Now Panic-Buying As Many American Dollars As They Can  By Tomas Hirst  Posted by Shaman:   Posted Dec. 17, 2014 @ 9:00 am

Ruble is now being driven by the Russian population piling out of the currency not currency speculators, according to a note from the head of emerging market strategy at Société Générale.

Benoi^t Anne writes (emphasis added):

The stress surrounding the RUB market appears to have mutated in a major way and is now essentially a domestic retail flow problem. Essentially, the local population—or at least part of it—after having witnessed the recent RUB slide, is not that comfortable holding loads of ruble anymore, and has decided to make the switch to dollars, a phenomenon we observe in global emerging markets (GEM) on a regular basis when the local currency comes under severe pressure.

That is a huge shift that will be a major concern for the Russian government's attempts to stabilise the currency.

As Business Insider reported last week, food prices in Russia have shot up by 25% over 2014 as Russian's confidence in the country's future starts to evaporate. Our sources in Moscow told us that cash machines in the Russian capital were being routinely emptied by nervous bank customers eager to convert their rubles into other currencies or to buy goods before the price shoots up even further.

Since then the situation has become even worse. After the ruble fell a further 10% on Monday many Russians appear to have fallen into a full-blown panic.

“The demand is enormous. People are bringing piles, huge piles of cash. It is madness,” said Kamila Asmalova, a manager at a Moscow branch of Sberbank told the Wall Street Journal.

A loss of faith in the currency may help explain why the shock 650 basis point rate hike by the central bank on Tuesday morning failed to halt the ruble rout. If people have lost faith in the stability of the currency they are unlikely to be concerned about the level of interest paid on their savings, and much more concerned about switching their savings into other more stable currencies as quickly as possible.

Foreign exchange services in Russia are struggling to keep up with demand for dollars and euros as the photo below of a Moscow bureau de change demonstrates.

Maximus D. Meridius Actually this is an opportunity for Putin.............. does anyone see it , or what would or should be putins next move..................He,He,He.................

Vinman > Maximus D. Meridius Decembr 17, 2014 at 10:39am A gold ruble

Dave > Vinman Yup save the country script gold backed is coming

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Russian central bank announces measures to restore financial stability

Posted by shaman on December 17, 2014 at 10:04am

BIG NEWS FROM MOSCOW: The Russian Central Bank has just announced a series of measures to “maintain the stability of the Russian financial sector”.

The news has sent the rouble surging on the foreign exchanges.

The CBR says it is preparing to pump more money into its banks next year. It is also relaxing some banking standards, to effectively allow banks to temporarily ignore losses caused by the currency crisis, and use a more favourable rouble exchange rate.

It’s an attempt to ease the crisis that is gripping Russia, and spooking the global markets. The news has sent the rouble surging, up 10% to 61.8 to the dollar as I type.

The key measures include:
  • A pledge to recapitalise credit institutions next year, in partnership with the Government of the Russian Federation.
  • Banks will, temporarily, be freed from having to recognise losses on their securities portfolios, to “reduce the sensitivity of market participants to market risk”.
  • The CBR will offer banks more opportunities to buy foreign exchange funds through auctions run by the bank.
  • Banks will be allowed to, temporarily, use the rouble exchange rate of the previous quarter when assessing the value of their assets.
  • The CBR will offer more support to the Moscow Stock Exchange, to help it distribute liquidity through the markets.

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 Kudu70 What are we hoping to hear from the FED Chairperson that will move the Global RV/GCR along?

Sunshine62 > Kudu70 Perhaps some kind of "soft" announcement of an asset-backed currency..When we say "soft" that would mean the language would be there but would fly over most people's heads. (well, at least that is my definition at the moment)

EXOGEN WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THE CONSPIRACY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY ACCURATE ABOUT THE "OLD" SYSTEM MUST BE DISMANTLED..............

Maximus D. Meridius > EXOGEN as the oligorcy say the sheeple who believe in conspiracys are nut jobs   However their lies are now the truth...............

DINAR IRAQ & DONG VIETNAM UPDATE , 17 DEC

Dinar Iraq and Dong Vietnam :f at 2% rule for 90 days is all important for Iraq to change the value of their currency, what did the IMF mean when they implied that their work with Iraq is done given they supposedly are only one month into a three month requirement? Based on…how difficult under the present monetary system it is to hold at 2% for an entire month let alone 90 days, one could almost assume that the IMF statement could mean they have “given up” on Iraq based on their history. We know this isn’t true. Iraq has set a few dates when they thought they might RV only to pull back IMO because of the Maliki governments pressure. At the end of last year we know that the finance committee had let it slip that Turki had intended to delete the zeros in January of this year (2014). I speculated at the time that that leak caused a run on the banks as Iraqi’s tried to get their dinars into a cash position. Either way, the CBI was not in compliance with the 2% rule.

You could make the argument that the 2% rule itself was the reason they did not RV on the dates they wanted to. But those who have watched this soap opera might take this view differently as the facts of the Maliki’s involvement with this independent body from trying to muscle it, trying to raid it, from using the Judicial branch against it, to trying to discredit it, all in an attempt to loot it, was the true root cause of no RV until now. Rules are meant to be bent in cases where the benefits of doing so are greater than the deficits of doing so. I also firmly believe that this project is late. When Christine Lagaurd gave her speech in January she suggested 2014 would see monumental improvements to the world economy. So far that prediction has not come to pass. Once again, I feel Iraq may be partly to blame having taken much longer to rid itself of the dictator than the international community thought it would and to unwind the mess he had created. Just my thoughts.


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IMF 2% Spread…I do not have the exact wording of this requirement, but, if we are to assume it does exist, simple math should prevail. The problem is, IMHO, we do NOT know which rates are being used to come up with this per cent spread. If we use 1166, the imposed rate, as the operational rate, and the market rate as published almost daily by the CBI ON THEIR WEBSITE, CBI.IQ, and we divide 1197, current published rate, into 1166, we get 2.6%, NOT 2%! This is the same percent spread the IMF mentioned in the last release, a few days ago. …what rates are being used for this calculation? Why is below 1200 market rate, the BINGO NUMBER? Am I missing something here?

OH, BTW, THE MARKET RATE HAS NOT BEEN AT 1190 OR LESS IN A VERY LONG TIME… IS THE 90 DAY STABILITY, WHEN THE CBI REPORTS SATURDAY AUCTIONS, USUALLY ON SUNDAY, THEY DO NOT REPORT A MARKET RATE FOR THE SATURDAY AUCTION…SO WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE IMF LOOKS AT FOR THAT ONE. AND BTW, FOR ALL OUT THERE WHO DONT FOLLOW CURRENCY/STOCK/COMMODITY TRADING…A L L F L O A T! THEY ALL HAVE A BID A
THEY ARE TO MEET ON ALL AMENDMENTS OF THE BUDGET ON TUESDAY OR BEFORE DEPENDENT ON HOW FAST THEY HAVE IT COMPLETE FOR DEFICIT CALCULATED CHANGES — REMEMBER THE CALL FOR THE ACTIVATION OF LEGISLATION MEANS IT IS DONE AND ABLE TO BE ACTIVATED — ALL GOOD NEWS. WE KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS AND THE BUDGET ARE EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY AND THEY INVOLVE MANY INTERNATIONAL CONTRACTS.

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NO MAGIC NO ILLUSION. JUST PROGRESS AND TIMING ON THE WORLD’S BIGGEST EVENT. THEY CANNOT GO DOWN TO BARNES AND NOBLE AND PICK UP A COPY OF GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET FOR DUMMIES. SO THIS MUST PROGRESS BASED ON REAL WORLD EVENTS AS THEY UNFOLD. WE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE THIS MORNING. MAYBE NOT THE PLACE BUT WAY BETTER THEN LAST YEAR. PATIENCE IS A GOOD THING. THERE IS ONLY ONE CHANCE TO GET THIS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

TJERRY POST FROM TNT : BANK STORY, 17 DEC

tjerry :  Here is some positive news- My wife and I went to our local Chase bank as we have a small account with them and also we bought much of our dong through them. The manager of the bank saw us and asked if we could step into her office.

We have not spoken to her in a few months and she was always unsupportive of our claims we will have an RV soon

After sitting down across from her, this bank manager FORCED her business card into my hand and told me that she had been to training sessions over the past few weeks and our claim was real!

She said we will see the RV in the next 2 weeks and that she wanted us to come see her when this goes down!! Real story- no BULL

EARJOCKEY POST FROM TNT : OIL & IQD, 17 DEC

EARJOCKEY:The least effected of oil producing countries by falling oil prices are countries whose cost to extract crude is the lowest or who have lots of IQD (IQD = Oil Discount Coupons).  These countries include USA (lots of IQD and oil), China (lots of IQD), Iraq (near surface reserves), and Saudi Arabia (near surface oil). 

 The countries that are directly hurt the most are high cost producers or who do not have the same IQD agreements with Iraq and are: Russia, Venezuela, Syria/ISIS, and a few other high cost oil producing countries at odds with OPEC.  The whole developed and developing world who are reliant on imported oil will benefit greatly with low oil prices.  The net benefit to the world is undeniable.   While domestic USA oil producers are hurt in the near term the benefit of the RV will dwarf the short term impact.  The mid-term six-12 months period will find oil prices will rise again to meet the increased world GDP generated by the stimulus of low oil prices and the GCR.

It is actually a marvelous plan to hurt our enemies, placate our bondholders, and put our Middle East "friends" at a competitive advantage by hurting high cost producers reducing their share of global markets.  Opec is dead and new oil alliances will be created to meet new oil production and political goals or OPEC will crush the high cost producers.  AND THE WHOLE PLAN WORKS TO STRENGTHEN THE DOLLAR FOR BOTH OR EITHER AN INFLATION RESPONSE (BETTER STARTING VALUE FOR A FUTURE OF RISING INTEREST RATES) OR A CHANGE TO A COMMODITY BACK CURRENCY (WHICH WILL ALSO PROBABLY WORK TO WEAKEN USD FIAT CURRENCY DURING THE REPLACEMENT PERIOD).  SO YES THE RV IS RELATED TO THE FALLING OIL PRICES. IQD discounts representing 32-35 DOLLAR A BARREL STILL REPRESENTS A 25% DISCOUNT TO OIL EVEN IF OIL FALLS TO 40-45 DOLLAR A BARREL PRICES. IMO

IRAQI DINAR 123 NEWS :Fluctuating Dollar Price and Its Impact on Iraq’s Economy, 17 DEC

Iraqi Dinar 123 News:- The basket of the crisis that Iraq has been facing since long is affecting the global financial crisis. The dollar has a huge place in the economy of Iraq and it is important that Iraq manages things in a better way for a better system of management. The global crisis that occurred during the year 2009 were a huge set back for the USA. It was important for the different economies to over come the issues they faced.
The emphasis of Iraq is mainly on the dollar but when the global crisis was hit the issues were for several other currencies as well including the pound sterling, yen, and euro and then the other currencies. The different financial issues were based on the global currency issues and it is important that development of the different things is done in the proper way so that the financial structure does not face any kind of problems.
The new economic legislation depends on the handling of the financial system of development for a better and new financial structure of the handling and developing of the data. Iraqs crisis have been long on the country and it is high time now that everything is put under control so that the management is done in a better way on a larger scale.

EXOGEN UPDATE : WEDNESDAY INTEL, 17 DEC

Gt:New Clues.....

ALL EYES ON Janet Yellen....at 2:00

The Plan is to Plunge The Back Up & & Move Fast 

The Windows open for exchanging in 2014

But the plan is to move us Thru LiKE CATTLE!!

We have A BACKUP AGAiN that needs to be PLUNGED!!!

Congress is being Penalized fro the MESS They've Made with the Holdups For the RV/GCR

The events that are unfolding before us has ALL been Part of the Plan (Drop in oil prices, the Crazy activity on the markets, Currency influence, etc.... the Rothchild family has a LOT of influence in this plan)!!!

FIGHTS Are going on with The Rothschild's & The World Powers 

#800s Release are being hidden in plain site by the SNAKES in The Grass

Waiting on the time when Abadi Makes the Budget Announcement (but as a Finance Major.....How can Iraq base a Budget without Valued Currency...SIMPLE THEORY)!!

Well this Theory is TRUE.....Their ARE NO RULES!!!!!

Vinman :The plan is in motion and moving fast for a short vs long window for 2014 exchange.
They exchange will be like herding cattle through a chute.

Exogen :HOPEFULLY SNOW WILL START AFTER THE FED ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY

MILLIONDAY TIDBIT, 17 DEC

12-17-14 Millionday: Article quote: "Yasser incumbent few days and folded the public pages of "2014" to remember later that the government program was the most significant economic event in Iraq's modern history, being the first program after the year "2003" which meant economic affairs in a manner covering all aspects of the weaknesses and the way to address them and select the path of development true in the future."

THEY ARE SAYING THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN A FEW DAYS WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE FIRST ECONOMIC EVENT DESERVING SINCE 2003.   THIS WILL ALL BE ON THEIR NEWS AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GOV PROGRAMS AND HOW GREAT THEY ARE ECONOMICALLY.
THEY ARE STATING THAT THE YEAR OF 2015 WILL BE REFLECTIVE OF THIS GREAT ECONOMIC EVENT AND THE PROGRAM UNITES ALL THE ECONOMIC VISIONS. THE PRICE OF OIL WILL NOT STOP THE EVENT AND THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD.  SO THEY HOPE THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL SUCCEED AND ARE MOVING TO A MARKET ECONOMY.
[Does this mean not till 2015?] NO THIS DID NOT GIVE A DATE BUT SAID WITHIN A FEW DAYS. [Have they ever said "a few days" ever?...NO THEY HAVE NEVER SAID THAT.