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Friday, November 28, 2014

IKO WARD POST FROM TNT: GRISTLE ON TODAY'S CALL, 28 NOV

IKO WARD :So I think the PTB care very much about us, and these delays are now partially about how to handle a bunch of new millionaires in the US. Neither political party wanted to deal with a wild card in the mid-terms. Remember how we look to outsiders – veterans and church groups, toothless crack-heads, conspiracy freaks – and that’s just for starters. 

Now that the mid-terms are over we are still a demographic to be “handled”. Not just the TNT crowd, who have demonstrated a degree of sophistication, but the Dinarian rank and file who are going to do what their church leaders say, and a large group of veterans with non-combatant in-country experience. 

In other words, people who vote. Contrary to what Hollywood wants us to think, most vets do not ever want to go back, and they don’t want their kids going into another police action disguised as a war. Want to know what it’s like to be a vet? Read “Redeployment” by Phil Klay, most dead-on book about the war to date. Jives with what the vets in our support groups say about their lives. You think a “thank you for your service” and a free meal once a year cuts it for the average veteran man or woman? Think again.

And a word about Tony. Man does that guy have guts. How can any of us ask him to put his life and the well-being of his family on the line so we can get rich? Don’t kid yourself, that’s what he’s done. And have faith in his wisdom as to when to move, ‘cause if he is forced to move he has to have 100% support from the good guys. This means senators and congressman and power brokers of all shapes and sizes, world-wide. Think those people are going to risk their careers on some pissed off self-important Dinarians?

NO.
This thing has to be black and white, iron clad, not even the hint of a shade of gray. Going public will ruin the lives of people who don’t give a darn about ruining other’s lives. If it comes to that this could be as big a Watergate. Actually, bigger, ‘cause it will involve the private sector as well. The private sector doesn’t mess around. There are trillions of dollars at stake here. I know people who were killed over a hundred grand back in the union hey-days of the ‘80’s. How many of you are willing to have your life and the lives of your loved-ones ruined for a fellow Dinarian? Not many, I’ll wager.

 How dare you ask that of Tony or DC or Pam or Ray. This isn't as lottery ticket, this is the big time. Like it or not, some of you are about to see what the big time is really like. You think you’re going to walk off into the sunset with a 100M USD? Guess again. Be careful what you wish for.

I know many of you will scoff at what I say. I've seen enough feed-back over these past months to gauge how this will land. We all need to step up and be counted. It is critical we be seen as a cohesive group. I tried to say this last month and it came off badly, but you guys need to hear it this time. The PTB does not go by gut alone, they like polls and experts and consultants. They like charts and graphs and Power Point presentations. They may be Fidiots, but they are far from idiotic. They don’t listen to the mob unless the mob is in the streets and the last time that happened was ’68 in Chicago. I don’t see a Million Dinarian March on Washington happening any time soon, do you? So what’s the next best thing? Be a vocal minority. Not through twitter, any numskull can tweet. That was a great initial tactic but won’t cut it now. If we have to go to twitter you can kiss the RV goodbye for months, maybe years. That will open an entire factory full of canned worms.We need to get focused; we need to show we are focused, and we need to do it quietly and non-violently to demonstrate our potential. 

The best device at our disposal right now is the donation. One Dollar is like voting. Giving money, any amount of money, is a powerful act. Get onto Pay-Pal and give a dollar bill. I guarantee most of you are going to wait and see what happens over the weekend. Can’t blame you. But if we are still here Monday AM at 10:00 get on your computers and go to PayPal. No more excuses. Show up. Please. 

Put yourself in the PTB's shoes. “They did what? Twenty thousand people donated a dollar to show solidarity? We got a problem.”

JCR3758 TWEET, 28 NOV

@JCR3758: We are still projected to be next. Although the plan has been slowed down it has not been stopped. Hearing two timelines both in coming days

@JCR3758: There's no major news to report. The process continues. Iraq is ready & CBI is set to release. UST is waiting for go ahead for public to go.

RV/GCR TIDBIT FROM S3A, 28 NOV


R.V. / GCR November 28, 2014 at 6:59pm

the market is now primed as we watch the globe switch from one banking system to the other we will continue to see that the market is truly primed the value of the US dollar has gone up without a change in the gross domestic product the price of oil has lost 40 percent in less than 6 months the price of precious metals has gone down tremendously China is now cornering the market of Australia in silver and gold when all is said and done they will make the switch and no one will be the wiser except currency holders in a very fluid currency speculative market someone yell timber.

Tomorrow may just surprise some historicle bond owners....Timber for the first day of the rest of your lives

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 28 NOV

MrtThe Iraq 2015 Budget completed in less than or equal to 24 hours!

ExogenHCL + GOI = RV

DR MARK:Ok..so take the intel you and Bandito just carried over. 
Add the fact the Kurds got what they wanted
Plus the Budget is completed and will be reviewed tomorrow...should pass without issue as all parties are getting their percentages
Lastly, HCL in the basket of laws to be presented and passed!
With all this, well, doesn't take a doctor to figure this one out!  Big day tomorrow! Pray!

EXOGEN :CORRECT!!!
HISTORIC DAY!!!
IT IS ALREADY SATURDAY IN IRAQ NOW

Rv/ Gcr: the entire process is being held up by the Treaty of 200 countries when the last signature is put on to that treaty then your RV GCR will happen in the meantime precious metals are still going to drop and at the same time the old oil will lose its value will be a good time for you to see the Iraqi dinar increase.

Silverado :Would be interested in hearing EXO's commentary on Tony's conference call notes from today.

Exogen:WHY DO YOU NEED A COMMENTARY WHEN THE 2015 IRAQ BUDGET WILL BE AT THE IRAQ HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WITHIN A FEW HOURS
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WITHIN HOURS.

Rv/gcr:Its passed already...it just needs 155 signatures

Oilrat:So assuming the Dinar RV's at $3.58, then the actual budget would be $479 billion dinar...almost a half a trillion dinar....that would not be a bad budget for a third world country!!!!

OMEGAMAN UPDATE, 28 NOV

Omegaman:i had numerous sources stating that Paymaster's and attorney's were flying to Reno wed. and tuesday; nothing is confirmed imo however, as nothing yet has come to fruition; when i get an email, i'll know my group is going in; however, this week could be the one we've all been waiting for...

there is much tension and frustration in the meanwhile, as this has been a difficult process for those of us whose resources are in decline; we need to identify the naysayers and not respond to their posts, as shills get paid for folks responding to their shilli-ness..

TERRYK UPDATE, 28 NOV

11-28-14 TerryK: I GOT AN EMAIL THIS AM THAT THEY DID PASS THE 2015 BUDGET. IT WILL BE ANNOUNCED TOMORROW. WHAT I WAS TOLD IS THAT THEY STILL CAN’T AGREE ON THE HCL %. AND UNTIL THEY MAKE A FINAL AGREEMENT ON % TO STATE VS PEEPS IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. WHAT I WAS TOLD THIS AM IS THIS: THEY HAVE ALL AGREED, SHOOK HANDS, HIGH FIVE, PATS ON BACK, HUGS...ALL THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS SIGN AND ANNOUNCE

SUNNY POST FROM TNT: TNT CC CLIFF NOTES, 28 NOV

Highlights of Tony's CC.  Will update as call progresses- Sunny

Tony opened with a moving letter from an individual in South Africa.  

Tony:  I don't work for the government. I don't work for any dealer.  None of them have paid me. . . I don't get paid to sell dinar. . .   Don't own a dinar site and don't make 1 penny off any dinar sales anywhere in the world! . . . I do it because of the letter I just read.

Tony: They have asked us to do some things yes . . . doing it because it helps you guys. . . I don't work for anybody. . . they are so out of our world . . . they don't know the price of milk."

Wed. RV Release: - IMF approved it. BIS said release it. Iraq tried to process it at 2:00 am Wed. and held up again by same people who said they would not interfere.  Excuse to hold it up this time was so people would not have to work over Thanksgiving.  People who were scheduled to exchange and flew to do so, sat in hotel rooms over Thanksgiving.  Some had turkey dinner in their hotel rooms.

IRAQ has full authority to do this and telling their people will be completed by Dec. 1st. Problem is if they do it, it will be disruptive and convoluted.  I would not be the same smooth transition as it would be if the US lets it go through.  It could take 20 days to go around the world rather than 10 minutes.

Tony says, now they are saying, “they don't care if the US wants to screw their people but stop screwing the rest of the world.”

Exchanging:  exchanging people today and scheduled to be exchanged throughout the weekend.
BIS meeting today to find solution to this being released.
Contract Rate:  T says he doesn’t know the criteria for the contract rate but feels it will come out.  Contract rate was still paid on Wed.
Good news:  People scheduled for exchange on Monday and next Friday, Iraq saying be completed by Dec. 1st, people scheduled to work exchanges and call centers. 
Banks:  the 800# was supposed to come out you tell them which bank you want to go to.  That has changed.  Wells Fargo will take anybody/everybody.  The other banks can pick and choose whom they will want for a client. Otherwise it depends on our WM.  My understanding from the call is with the exception of WF, it's up to the bank if you can exchange with them.             Tony:  "This process has changed many times. Could change tomorrow or already changed."
Exchange Procedure:  Both Tier 1 & 2: People going in are offered a rate and agreeing to it and get access to 10% of the balance, up front before they walk out. If you exchange for $300,000 you get $30,000 that day. Then within 72 hours set up appt's with a wealth manager. The WM can raise the rate if you leave it there for a longer time, 6 months, or can give you more based on time and amount you leave in their bank.  A different bank may offer different terms for a higher rate.      
800# for appointments only.  Will be “one” number” and Tony expects it will go to the region your calling from.  It is not for the rate.
Tony:  “This is a truth type call - Could still happen.”  Possible it could go through today or another selected date. Some banks have scheduled people to come in Monday and some next Fri.  Tony says it could happen at any moment, just question will/when they do it.  Does not make sense to him they are holding up the whole world.  People are confident it could go – exchange centers and banks scheduled makes people confident it will happen. 

T our position is as long as we are still in the process, and we are right now; then nothing we can do about when they do it. Unless only reason they are not doing it is to remove us or delay us.  

When a call questioned if them letting us exchange Tony said, “we have a plan.”

CLOSING STATEMENTS:

Pam:  I would like to remind you all, there are a lot of people with opinions, counciled by professional’s to do things.  Remind you all someone you meet in a chat room, on a bus . . . may not be the information you need. . . Really need to talk to professionals. . .Get your own professional before you make any plans.

Ray:  Continue to enjoy your fabulous Friday.  I’m excited about your future.

Tony – No one paying us to explain this process to you.  Hope we are doing the right thing for you guys to make this as smooth as possible . . . and once you do get it you can . . . make it last more than 6 months or a year.  Still hearing it could go this weekend.  It’s not based on anything else.  HCL approved.  . . We know their mind set is changing and they are ready to go. TV announcing every day “economic reform underway and will be completed by Dec. 1st. . . making it as publicly as they can around the world, they are absolutely ready to go.  . . don’t be negative . . . sad.  Could go at any moment.  Rates still there, still exchanging people . . . right this moment.  All good news this could happen.

Hopefully I can send out some good tweets.  Monday is the public date Iraq is putting out, “by Dec. 1st.”  Enjoy your weekend.

TNT CC NOTES, 28 NOV

TNT Call notes 28-Nov-2014

[Song:  Do the Right Thing]  Pam picked that song!

Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Friday, November 28, 2014 – oh my God.  I’ve got some good, up-to-date information for you and a timeline for you.  DC is not here so I can say anything I want.  I have stacks of mail from you all, with letters from Congresspeople and Senators, from banks saying they never sold dinar, and then people sending their receipts where they bought dinar from the banks. There are personal letters of what this has meant to you, and letters as individuals.  Here is one that relates to this process and how we are all going through it together.  This process IS coming to an end…

“I can’t give you stories with bankers, or with family and friends, because they will have me declared unfit. I  look at my siblings who could benefit from this, but don’t have the courage to  share it with them.  Already my views of religion and politics take them outside their comfort zone. All I could do was put myself into debt to buy currencies for them, and look forward to share the joy and wonder with them.  For many of us, money has always been an issue we have yet to grow out of.  We have been working for many years on the RV, and those behind the scenes might be the very ones being vilified.  Thank you for your courage in looking past your nationalities and borders;  I hope that you will eventually be acknowledged for your efforts and for being more humane than most, and I hope you will be publicly acknowledged and applauded on the podium.”  This is from a dinarian in South Africa.  It’s not just us in the US, but people in many countries, and we hope everyone will be thanked for their efforts when this is done.

I want to give you the information, and I want you to understand this:  I don’t’ work for the government.  I was in the military for 15 years, and I respect the government although I know things about the government you don’t know. There are global effects from this as well as all the US citizens.  I don’t work for them, they don’t direct this call or tell me what to do. I never worked for any of the dealers, none has paid me, none has paid the TNT site.  I don’t get paid to sell dinar, I don’t own a dinar site, and nobody pays me for buying or selling dinar, OR for any exchanges.  I don’t advertise on my site, we don’t get paid for doing calls – it doesn’t pay us a dime.  I do this because of that letter I just read, all the letters you send me, the comments in the forum, and because it’s the right thing to do.  I’m telling you that because we have built our site.  We have been asked to do things and I do the things that will help us get to the bank to get exchanged!  As long as it’s not going to hurt you, I agree with that.  I don’t talk about every detail because not everyone will understand those details.  Sometimes what we tell you affects how they negotiate in the room, and that affects us.  There are people in our government who know my name, and I wish they never knew my name because there are results that I am now going through.  “Everything that glitters is not gold”;   people are talking about me around the water-cooler and that is not always a good thing. Because of that, some good people are helping us, so you can’t pick and choose.  The same is true in the banks – some powerful people in the banking system are pissed off at me in the past and  might be again, but I’ll find somewhere to put my money.  We are not doing things because they control us;  they have asked us to do certain things because they help you guys, and that is why we are here.  If we can help, great;  if not, we’ll help you on our own. It’s all part of the process.  However, that doesn’t mean we work for them. They have never hired us, or paid us a dime.  If we were consultants, they’d be doing things differently!

They seem to be too high up to understand how this affects the common man.  I saw a film the other day where the girl asked the millionaire how much a gallon of milk costs, and he couldn’t say because he doesn’t live in that reality.  What we are trying to do her is bring you information that will help you hold onto the money.

We’ve been telling you for weeks that everything is done that needs to be done in Iraq and in the banks. They are actually exchanging people today, as we speak, and more are scheduled to be exchanged throughout the weekend.  Iraq tried to push this through again on Wednesday.  The plan was to have the 800numbers come out this weekend so you could schedule for Monday.  It still hasn’t happened, but it was supposed to.  Everyone in the world is ready for this except for us;  we keep blocking it for some reason. I don’t know what the reason is.  WE know it was supposed to go, the IMF+BIS said for it to go through, and they held it up again – this time, because it was Thanksgiving!  They were all sent home yesterday morning. People who we scheduled to exchange flew all over the country, and they didn’t exchange – they had Thanksgiving in hotel rooms. They are tired of being lied to.

Today there are meetings at the BIS today to ask, “What part of you aren’t going to interfere did you not get?” because they did it again!  Iraq has the authority to do this.  The problem is, if they do it and it doesn’t go around the world, there will be problems.  They want it to be a smooth transition around the world, not piecemeal.  That’s what will happen if they force it through – it will be a mess. So we don’t know where we are at!  Now they are saying, “If you don’t want your people to go through until the 1st or 5th of December or 1st January, if you want to screw your people, we no longer care!  Stop screwing with the rest of the world!”

The 800 numbers could come out today, tomorrow, sometime this weekend… and we could be in the bank by Monday.  Nobody believes them any more anyway.  It was supposed to go last week, then this week, then the 1st.  When does it get cut off?  As long as we are still in the process, which we are right now, then there is nothing we can do about when they do it – unless the only reason they are NOT doing it is to delay or block us from the process.  If it’s about something else, that is government business.  Then we will do what we need to do.  Right now, that is what we are waiting on.

People are still being the contract rate on Wednesday, so we know it’s still there.  People are still scheduled to exchange here in the US;  we have the locations, and each bank is doing something a little different.  Each bank has their own procedure, but what we have heard from those exchanging so far is that people are going in and being offered a rate.  They are agreeing to that rate, and then setting up a meeting 72 hours with their wealth manager, who then offer a bit more depending on your amounts and how much you are willing to leave it in the bank.  That’s what is happening with the exchanges so far, that you can negotiate in the second appointment. They don’t’ have the time to do that in the first appointment.  We don’t have the package yet, and we don’t know how long they will do that.   It’s not locked in – this is just what we are hearing about so far from those who have been exchanging.  I can’t guarantee it will happen any one way because each bank has their process and their way of doing this.

The 800 number was supposed to go out, you call with your information and then tell them what bank you want to go to.  It’s the same 800 number for ALL the banks.  Now the only bank that is required to take everyone is Wells Fargo, but that doesn’t mean you will be their customer for more than 30 days. The other banks are not getting the same benefits as WF, so they get to pick and choose their customers.  This process has been changed so many times, we don’t know how it’s going to come out!  But the 800 number is for appointments, not just for the contract rates.  We don’t know the criteria for who gets the contract rates, but it will come out sooner or later.  We have enough insiders to get the information so we know it was fair.

215 caller:  I have a project in Philadelphia for a transitional housing program for homeless youth, with a shelter, soup kitchen, day care, and different training programs so they can come out and get jobs, and learn to live independently.  One question I have is something DC talked about in the last call, which areas have a lot of dinarians.

Tony:  The large concentrations are about big churches and military bases, but all areas will have exchange centers.  It might take you a few days to get your appointments, but there will not be lines out the bank.

Caller:  As far as dinarland, how do you determine if you’re in that group?  Do you have a list of those who are on the calls or what?

Tony:  Those who are paying attention on the internet or on the calls will get the tweet, call that 800 number, and that defines you as part of the internet group.  If they have a totally different plan for the other 4.5 million people, and they don’t want them to go until January, that’s okay – those people have not been involved, on the roller coaster with us, how to protect and use that money, so I’m not concerned if they have to wait another 30 days.  They weren’t here arguing and fighting for us, sending out twitters or calling their Senators and Congressmen when we asked… they didn’t get involved, so I’m not putting my neck on the chopping block for someone waiting to cash in at my expense.  The other gurus aren’t at risk;  they are going after me, and I’m okay with that for you guys who are here, listening for 3-4 years, etc.  I’m doing it for those who don’t know me and didn’t stand up for us all this time.

Caller: What about the friends and family who will give those same 800 numbers to others?

Tony: That’s what people will do.  But I would make my appointment first before calling anyone else!  I know there is a desire to do spread those numbers out, but if they have to wait 30 days, that is fine so long as we get to go through and we are being treated fairly.  If they are delayed, that’s okay with me – they were not part of the process.   Guys, one question only – we only have another 20 minutes.

215 caller:  This is not making sense.  The last time you said it couldn’t be stopped if Iraq pressed the button, then we hear that it was stopped because of Thanksgiving. 

Tony:  Iraq clearly can do this when they want to.  The only problem doing it when they want to is that it creates a problem if the US doesn’t let it go through our system. So even though it was supposed to take ten minutes going round the world, it could take 10-20 days if the US blocks it.  So Iraq is trying to get the BIS to force the US to do it the way it was planned.  The US is saying “Do it when you want, but if it’s not when we agree, then we don’t care how much of a problem that created.”  Hopefully someone will get the US to agree.  We keep hearing it’s going, it’s going, but yet again, it didn’t go through.  They don’t seem to care about dinarians.  They would prefer to the general public to go through in January.  We heard that they would send out the 800 numbers for us, and then shut it down for the five million.  If they just take of us, I’m good with that.  They haven’t been in the fight for us, although we have been fighting for us.  They just want us to tell them when it goes, so I will, and if that turns out to be January, that’s fine with me.

Caller:  It looks like it is still the old guard trying to save the dollar.

Tony:  I wish that were the case, and I don’t know, but people in every country we talk to have not come to that conclusion.  Nobody seems to know the reason why this is still on hold. Every stumbling block has been overcome.  Iraq is 100% ready and telling their people that the economic reform will be completed by 1st December.  That is completed, so we will see.

732 caller:  I’m a bit disappointed today to hear this news…

Tony:  I don’t want you to be disappointed, but to live in reality.  This could happen in the next hour, the next three hours, today or tomorrow.  It didn’t happen Wednesday because ti was blocked again. Everything could be over with tomorrow, or it could be next Friday.  I don’t know, I am just trying to give you the information. It could happen any moment, because there is nothing specific getting in the way.  Iraq has announced everything has been done, all the laws passed, and it could go any moment.  It is the holiday and they sent people home. J People at the call centers are at work, ready for the 800 numbers. Some bank people are scheduled for Monday  and some for next Friday.  People keep asking me how confident I am that this is happening, and I have less and less confidence because they keep saying it’s schedule and then it doesn’t happen!  But we still know it could happen any minute. I’m just trying to lay it out the way  it has been explained to us around the world.  Nobody has explained the reason to me or anyone else, and nobody knows why it’s been blocked again.  A lot of people have confidence this is going this weekend, but they had confidence last Monday and the weekend before. When you bring in people to the call centers, the banks and everywhere else, saying “this is about to go down”, and then it doesn’t … and we don’t know why … that’s just how it’s going.

954 caller:  You said this will be over by the 1st.. thank you.

Tony:  I hope that Iraq gets it done by then and that the US lets this go so we can all get to the bank.  I‘m not blaming anyone, I’m just telling you how it is.

262 caller:  I’m in Milwaukee WI.  I do have a comment;  I was in a chat room where DC was in the there, and before I could type the question, he had answered two questions!  I have a comment that could maybe help people out.  You have suggested people set aside 50% for taxes.  Several professionals have told me that contract rates will be taxed at the normal rates (i.e, more than the international rates), so keep at least 50% aside.

410 caller:  We need to stay positive and keep visualizing the same positive rates.  Will there be one 800 number and will be for the whole country?  Deep breathes, everyone!

Tony:  I will tweet out one 800 number, and it will probably divert your call to a regional center.   This is just supposed to be a truthful, straightforward call, with the truth from several countries and banks.  This si what happened –they didn’t want to do it on thanksgiving.  When Iraq tries to do it again, hopefully it will go through this time.  This is what we go through every day.  We live in the moment, what’s happening in the meetings every day and all the rest of it.  It could go either way at any moment, because there is nothing major stopping it.  Nobody needs to have a meeting, pass a law, approve a budget – it’s just someone saying they will let it go because they have what they want or need.  Nobody is saying that there is anything blocking this.  So far as we know, they are not trying to shut out the internet people.  If they are doing it, they have trained a lot of people and set banks in motion, so I hope not.  They have exchanged a lot of people and continue to do so, because we are getting information on both sides of that.  There is no way they will be able to hide that part.

941 caller:  An easy way to handle all this is for people to show up at the banks with their currency and say they want to exchange also. If they don’t that will create problems for them, not us.  Take someone with a camera to document it.

Tony:  If it comes to that, we have documentation that they have exchanged others.  We have a plan, if it comes to that.  If don’t work for the government or the banks;  I was willing to help them keep everyone calm and on track, to get through this as easily and smoothly as we can – for your sakes.  But negotiations are done, the procedures are done, Iraq is trying to push this out, the banks are exchanging, and I DON’T KNOW WHY it hasn’t been released.  We could still have a great weekend. We’ll tweet it out as soon as it happens.  I know everyone was expecting something after the Wednesday call, when the BIS said they would not stop it… but they did stop it again.

All around the world, people appreciate that we are trying to get this done. There is no bank, dealer or government paying us to do calls or explain this process to you.  We hope we are doing the right thing for you guys to get make this as smooth as possible, to get on with our lives, and so that you can create a legacy that will last more than 1-2 years.  We are still hearing it could go this weekend – absolutely.  It could go!  It’s not based on any other laws, agreements, etc.  Our contacts are able to use their cards internationally, and Iraq is announcing that economic reform will be completed by the 1st.  They are making it as public as they can that they are absolutely ready to get this done.  Don’t’ be sad or negative – this could still go at any moment.  The rates are still there, they are still exchanging people, and I just got a text that they are doing it right now.  So thanks, and have a great day!

Pam:  I would like to remind you all that there are a lot of people out there with opinions.  They have been counseled by their professionals about things that will work for them, they might not be the best course for you.  Talk to you own professionals about your specific situation.

Ray:  Enjoy your Fabulous Friday.  I’m excited about your future.

Tony:  I’m looking for something over the weekend. Monday is the public date that Iraq is putting out, that this will be completed by the 1st.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 28 NOV

11-28-2014   Intel Guru Frank26    ...many articles...clearly shows the need for many banking laws that Parliament has already passed...The passing of banking laws to PROTECT an RV that can ONLY come from the owners of the Central Banks is needed.  We have...told you for years now that Dr. Shabibi has been the quarterback of every inch accomplished by the CBI. Turki worked with Dr. Shabibi not to raise the value of the IQD because they have no power to do so but to exemplify to the Central Bank owners that the CBI is now capable of excepting this responsibility.  Articles tell you that Dr. Shabibi came today to defend his accusations from M [Maliki].   I am here to tell you that what they are telling you today was done over two months ago. I bet you if you hadn't passed these laws months ago S [Shabibi] would not be with you right now...

11-28-2014   Newshound Guru wmawhite
   Article:  "Presidencies agreement to the dimensions of Mahmoud judicial system"   Quote:  "Presidencies taken Iilat of Bmasom, and Abadi, and al-Jubouri, a decision to expel Midhat al-Mahmoud of the head of the Iraqi judiciary... ...the head of the Iraqi judiciary appointed by Maliki has been removed.

11-28-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 
   I THINK A REAL MARKET RATE IS STARING US IN THE FACE AND WILL SOON BE POSTED EVERYWHERE. I THINK THIS SUNDAY AFTER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND VOTES SATURDAY WILL PROMPT NEW MOVEMENT TO ATTRACT INVESTORS BUT ONLY WITH THE NEW RATE.  

11-28-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday 
  THEY HAVE ALSO CALLED FOR THE COUNTRY INCLUDING THE AIRPORT (WHERE THEY HAVE A MONEY EXCHANGE BUSINESS) TO ONLY USE THE IRAQI DINAR -- THEY HAVE COMPLETED THE AGREEMENTS FOR RESOLVE WITH KUWAIT AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES FROM THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST GOI.  THEY HAVE A UNIFIED GOV AND ARE ANNOUNCING THAT THEY ARE REFORMING THE COUNTRY IN ALL ASPECTS PLANNED BEGINNING WITH THE ECONOMIC SIDE OF THINGS.  WE HAVE THE BEST NEWS WE HAVE EVER HAD.   [post 3 of 3]

11-28-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday 
  LET ME SUMMARIZE...THEY HAVE SIGNED A TEMPORARY HCL AGREEMENT TO COVER THE FUNDING SIDE OF THINGS -- THEY HAVE THE SMART CARDS READY -- THE BANKING REFORM LEGISLATION WILL BE VOTED ON SATURDAY... -- THE UNITED NATIONS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT THE IRAQI REFORMS HAVE BEGUN AND CBI HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THEY ARE DONE AND READY -- THE LAWS THEY ARE VOTING THROUGH DO NOT MATCH OR ARE NOT USEFUL WITH THE CURRENT IMPOSED RATE -- THE MANY COUNTRIES THAT HAVE SHOWN UP TO JOIN THE ECONOMIC MEETING THIS WEEKEND ARE SIGNING AGREEMENTS AND CONTRACTS.   [post 2of 3....stay tuned]

11-28-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday 
   THE ECONOMIC FAIR THAT IS GOING ON GOES TO THE 30TH OF NOVEMBER AND IS WHERE ALL AGREEMENTS ARE BEING SIGNED...THE ECONOMIC FAIR INCLUDES THE CBI AND MANY MINISTRIES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MARKET WITHIN THE GLOBE AND ALSO THE ACTIVATION OF CONTRACTS THEY ARE ADDRESSING ALL REGULATIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE "ON THE BOOKS" SO THEY ARE CAPABLE OF A SUCCESSFUL REFORM -- ADMIN-BANKING -- ECONOMIC--PRIVATE...ETC.   I WOULD SAY THAT THE FIRST TWO DAYS WOULD END WITH THE THURSDAY VOTE...ON THE AGENDA FOR THE BUDGET ETC AND THEN THE NEXT TWO DAYS OF THE SECOND MEETING WOULD END FOR SATURDAY TO BE THE LEGISLATION COMPLETION FOR THE ECONOMIC REFORMS WE HAVE READ SO MUCH ABOUT.

BULLDOG 75 CHAT UPDATE: " WE ARE SEEING THE LAST DAYS/WEEK OF THE SCENARIO, 28 NOV

BULLDOG75 POST NOV.28TH

  [.~Bulldog75] 11:00 AM CST: CURRENCY AND CE UPDATE: SILVER JUST PLUMMETED TO $15.59. THATS ABOUT4 PERCENT! LET US REMEMBER: GOLD AND SILVER IS A CURRENCY! THE DOG-FIGHT WITH CURRENCIES CONTINUES TO  SPREW AND BREW. IMHO, THIS CONTINUES TO SIGNAL THE 'FINAL STRENGTHENING OF THE USD BEFORE IT PITFALLS BEFORE OUR VERY EYES AND WE SEE THE EVENTUAL "CE' / RV/ GR /GLOBAL RESET".

[.~Bulldog75] SILVER CONTINUES TO FALL. GOLD NOT AS MUCH. REMEMBER THE FAT CATS AND CHINA ARE THE DEALERS AT THE CARD TABLE.

[.~Bulldog75] SILVER IS VIRTUALLY UNAVAILABLE; ITS AVAILABILITY AND MINING HAS SLOWED TO A TRICKLE. CHINA WILL CONTINUE TO BUY UP THE MARKETS. CHINA IS BUYING THE AUSTRALIAN SILVER/GOLD MARKET AT THE MOMENT.

[.~Bulldog75] AUSTRALIA IS ONE OF THE LARGEST WORLD PRODUCERS, OFTEN COMING IN AT 2ND OR 3RD IN PRODUCTION. A SOFT SPOKEN STORY QUIETLY BEING IGNORED.

[.~Bulldog75] WE HAVE DISCUSSED RECENTLY IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS HOW "THE USD WILL CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN ; THEN PLUMMET LIKE A ROCK". WATCH FOR THE METALS TO CONTINUE ITS DOWNWARD SPIRAL.

[.~Bulldog75] IF YOU ARE HOLDING METALS, ACUTUAL GOLD AND SILVER (AND NOT PAPER); IMHO, DONT WORRY. HERE'S THE SCENARIO. ARE YOU READY?

[.~Bulldog75] WE ARE SEEING THE LAST DAYS/WEEKS OF THE SCENARIO. THIS HAD TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS FOR WEEKS. REMEMBER?

[.~Bulldog75] BOTTOM LINE/SUMMARY: CHINA BUYS AND HOARDS ALL GOLD/SILVER/PRECIOUS METALS THEY CAN GET. WHEN I SAY "GOLD' THAT INCLUDES: SILVER, PRECIOS METALS, COMMODITIES". OIL IS NOW PLUMMETING ALSO THIS MORNING.

[.~Bulldog75] WHY?

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA SIMPLY IS PUSHING THE PRICES DOWN TO HOARD THE SUPPLIES. SIMPLY, BUY IT ALL. CORNER THE MARKET. BUY LOW , SELL HIGH.

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA WILL HAVE THE ECONOMIC POWER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE GOLD. BRICS NATIONS FOLLOW THE LEADER, CHINA. CHINA BUYS US REAL ESTATE. ie: DETROIT. INFILTRATES.

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA/BRICS/FOLLOWING NATIONS BUILD THEIR POWERHOUSE, NOW AND IN FUTURE.

[.~Bulldog75] REMEMBER; NEW YORK, FORT KNOX, LONDON HAVE NO GOLD. ITS GONE. EXTORTED AND STOLEN.

[.~Bulldog75] AMSTERDAM LUCKED OUT OVER WEEKEND AND GOT ITS PARTIAL GOLD BACK, 33%.

[.~Bulldog75] HERES THE BOTTOM LINE. READY?

[.~Bulldog75] WE WILL SEE OUR CE, WHEN CHINA QUITS ITS BUYING OF THE METALS AND PUSHING OIL TO IT'S LOWEST. THE QUESTION IS : WHATS THE LOWEST PRICE CHINA CAN PUSH COMMODITIES?

[.~Bulldog75] SO LET'S HOLD ON TO OUR BRITCHES OVER THE WEEKEND, (AND AS SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE) THE LOW END OF THE METALS/COMMODITIES WILL , IMHO, HAPPEN DURING THE HOLIDAYS OF THANKSGIVING THRU THE NEW YEAR.

[.~Bulldog75] THE CE WILL FLASH WITHIN 24 HOURS OF THE LOWEST STATE OF THE COMMODITIES CHINA BUY OUT. ITS SIMPLE ECONOMICS JUST LIKE YOU WERE PLAYING "MONOPOLY" AND BUYING THE HOTELS OF 'BOARDWALK' AND 'PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE'. BUY AT THE LOWEST; TURNAROUND AND SELL AT THE HIGHEST. CHINA WANTS EVERY PENNY BACK OF ITS INVESTMENT LOAN TO THE USA.

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA IS ALSO BUYING THE AGRICULTURE MARKET, WHICH IS COMMODITIES.

[.~Bulldog75] DO WE ALL NOW SEE THE PICTURE HERE, EVEN MORE CLEARLY?

[.~dinarmama7] .~Bulldog75 Great explanations.

[.~Bulldog75] SO SIT TIGHT. WE ARE OK. IMHO, CASH OUT TOTALLY INTO THE FOREIGN KNOWN CURRENCIES WE HAVE RECOMMENDED IN THE PAST. WE ARE SAFE. JUST KNOW WE HAVE TO SIT AND WAIT A FEW DAYS OR WEEKS MORE UNTIL CHINA BUYS OUT THE COMMODITIES OF THE WORLD. WE COULD SIT AND CHATTER AND TALK ALL DAY ABOUT THIS ; BUT IT WOULD NOT CHANGE WHAT IS HAPPENDING BEFORE OUR VERY EYES.

[.~Bulldog75] DO KNOW, THAT WE ARE ALL HERE FOR A REASON. GOD DOES NOT FORGET HIS CHILDREN AND DEVOTED FOLLOWERS.

[.~Bulldog75] WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED.

[.~Bulldog75] LOOK FOR GOLD TO DIP, IMHO, BELOW $1100 AND SILVER BELOW $15 BEFORE/PRIOR WE SEE THE CE; OF COURSE THAT COULD HAPPEN AND HOUR OR ANY DAY. JUST KNOW AND BELIEVE WE ARE BLESSED.

[.~dinarmama7] .~Bulldog75 [g-man] .~Bulldog75 GM Will we have time to buy any Gold or Silver if available before it goes up in price as they expect? Is there a chance for the $ to be strong while Gold is low in price in order to buy Gold?
[.~Bulldog75] IMHO, .~dinarmama7 : THE WHOLD ENCHILADA WILL TOTALLY REVERSE WHEN WE 'CE'. GOLD WILL GO TO $5,000; SILVER TO $350. LET US REMEMBER, GOLD/SILVER IS A CURRENCY! SO PROBABLY WHEN A DINAR REVALUES SO WILL THE GOLD.

[.~Bulldog75] IMHO, I WOULD DIVERSIFY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE , NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
[.~Bulldog75] MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT THE US AND JAPANESE CURRENCIES WOULD SUFFER MOST, IMHO.
[.~Bulldog75] FIAT.
[.~Bulldog75] BUT ONLY AFTER CHINA TAKES WHAT IS OWED TO THEM.

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA IS ORCHESTRATING AND FINE TUNING THIS SCENARIO. THEY KNOW EVERY STEP TO TAKE AND WHEN TO DO IT. CHINA WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE ITS INVESTMENT IN THE USA.

[.~Bulldog75] CHINA WANTS EVERY PENNY BACK WITH INTEREST.

[.~Bulldog75] GONE HAVE A GREAT DAY. NO WORRIES. ITS SIMPLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE GAME. WHEN WE UNDERSTAND THE RULES OF WHATS HAPPENING, ITS EASIER TO PLAY THE GAME.
[.~Bulldog75] GONE.

TSR TIDBIT FROM S3A, 28 NOV

Tsr: If you can get a referral to the bank of your choice through your friends or relatives or contacts, you would not be worried about 800 numbers.  One could get an appointment through the 800 number and also, get a referral through a friend to go to the same bank.  Out of these 2 paths, one could exchange at the earlier date of those two appointments...Blessings

IRAQI DINAR 123 NEWS :Iraq Must Upgrade Its Banking System: Finance Experts, 28 NOV

Iraqi Dinar 123 News:- Iraq needs better strategies to bring the kind of development in the country that would bring Iraq at par with the rest of the world. It needs to upgrade its system of management and bring in to consideration a better developmental challenge. The private banks and the related strategies should be taken into consideration along with the handling of the data for a better banking sector.
Similarly it is important that the finance department and the central bank discuss all the possible aspects that they can undermine to bring the required changes and make it a better thing for all those who are unaware of the power that the banks hold on the different sectors.
With money flowing in through the right channel and the handling of finances done in the right way, things are hard to manage and handle as well as the banking sectors support is a big thing for a country like Iraq that needs a better system of management due to its unstable political, social and financial conditions.
With proper developments and handling of the different sectors the lack of resources of the different things would result in loss for all. It is important that Iraq takes a positive turn by keeping its banking sector abreast with the latest techniques and developments for a stable Iraq in future.

KTFA CHAT UPDATE, 28 NOV

KTFA:

w8tn4it2rv » November 28th, 2014, 12:36 pm  U.S. Dollar Index    88.31
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/dxy

Also take into consideration they are going to raise the value of the dollar to $0.90 soon. When the dollar rises commodities go down.

DrDinar:  Who said they were going to raise the value of the dollar?

w8tn4it2rv :  Dr Dinar IMO for it to be a 1-1 rate or 0.9 - 0.9 the dollar needs to be at 90 cents. The dollar is climbing right now and will most likely close today around $0.89 . Then next week go to $0.90.

notthe1 :   IMO ... Sunday 11-30 index 89 ,,... Monday 12-1 ... index 90 ... then ...BINGO!

w8tn4it2rv :  I'm in agreement with you looking more to Tuesday though.
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billuke » November 28th, 2014,

Oil Price Drop After OPEC Decision Is ‘Terrible’: Iraq Minister

By Nayla Razzouk and Rupert Rowling Nov 28, 2014

The plunge in crude prices after OPEC’s decision to keep its production ceiling unchanged is “terrible,” according to Iraq’s oil minister.

Brent crude, the global benchmark, fell the most in more than three years after the 12-member group completed talks and traded at $72.50 a barrel in London today. That’s 29 percent less than the $102.20 Iraq needs to balance its budget, according to International Monetary Fund estimates.

“We are trying to follow up what is going on, then we will assess the whole issue,” Oil Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi said in an interview today in Vienna. “I already had a meeting with my team. We will try to put the right policy to face the situation.”

Iraq is the second-largest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, which left its daily output target unchanged at 30 million barrels yesterday. The group considered a cut of 5 percent in production, Abdul Mahdi said after the meeting.

Iran’s Bijan Namdar Zanganeh said the decision wasn’t what his nation had wanted and Venezuela favored a cut, according to Rafael Ramirez, the nation’s OPEC representative.

Oil tumbled into a bear market this year as the U.S. pumped the most in more than three decades and conflict in the Middle East and Ukraine failed to disrupt supply. The group produced almost 1 million barrels more than the ceiling last month, data compiled by Bloomberg show.

Iraq pumped 3.3 million barrels a day last month, data compiled by Bloomberg show.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-28/oil-price-drop-after-opec-decision-is-terrible-iraq-minister.html

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drdonar :   We'll that doesn't sound very good for us.

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s41755k » I team told Frank watch for a Neg. Article to come out first...then! just like China then 3 days later BOOM!!! IMO

Even if this is not the article it's all good! the written is on the wall its coming and everyone should start looking.... the glass is not half full but 99.9% full! once again IMO

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Terry43 THAT'S what I wondered, too! It also seems to me that, the more revenue that is lost by lower oil prices, the more likely that that loss in revenue could be made up by an increase in the value of their IQD. Hmmm!

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Andy5252: 
 i would agree with your thinking in my opinion and a higher rate would be needed to make up for the lower oil price

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Toyvp:   IMO it forces them to do so even more, with their current program rate being so low it makes there currency very weak and if they were to RI there currency now it would be strong and offset their current budget deficit then there would be no need to borrow from the CBI. I see this as a classic CHINA SYNDROME

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Aggiedad77: 
 Well, on the other hand, I for one.....with this particular article....wouldn't put a great deal of stock to it.....to me it is very generically written, no one from the CBI is taking credit for this piece......rarely do they ever put out information just from the "CBI" itself.....they almost always will put a name to the article to help lend credible credence to what is being shared. This article doesn't do that.....I would suggest waiting to see what IF anything else is forthcoming from the CBI "officials" to back up what this is saying....remember we are dealing with the Iraqi media here.....don't be too quick to judge based on the surfacing of just a single article.  Aloha   Randy

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22coconuts22 : 
 I just read that oil prices just fell below 70. Just wondering what/if that still plays a role with Iraq and their revalue.

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Frank26:
   OPINIONS are a Human's Rights ....... OR WRONGS ! Here is mine on Your qt:

Oh hades YES!

It is not a direct connection of oil ......... It is an INFECTION from it that IMO is Great Pressure from .......... Whoever LOL.

KTFA,  Frank

POPPY3 TIDBIT, 28 NOV


Poppy3:  I THINK A REAL MARKET RATE IS STARING US IN THE FACE AND WILL SOON BE POSTED EVERYWHERE. I THINK THIS SUNDAY AFTER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND VOTES SATURDAY WILL PROMPT NEW MOVEMENT TO ATTRACT INVESTORS BUT ONLY WITH THE NEW RATE.  

JOHN MACHAFFIE UPDATE, 28 NOV

John MacHaffie:   WE ARE DONE!

If you see an old Biplane circling the airport for a landing, that be OKIE OILMAN coming in for a landing.

Everything has been done in Reno for the people to get their Blessings.

The GOOD GUYS have finally won. Next are the announcements and your turn at the blessings banquet.

Thank you Good Guys including the Gurus, Okie, the Admirals, Generals and all you wonderful patriots.

AND Thank You GOD for Blessing Our Republic Again!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU ALL!

EXOGEN UPDATE : FRIDAY INTEL, 28 NOV

Shaman:As we prepare to exchange watch the cheese.

Vinman: Well it's finally your turn in line.  

We are next.
Watch the Swiss vote on Sunday...gold will certainly be affected one way or another.

GtFriday Morning Clues.....

We're Next In line.....

Theirs A Vote This Weekend (Sunday) regarding Gold That should impact our timing!!!
Examination of the 2015 Budget in Iraq & the Drop in Oil Prices could be announced before the Public RV (I STILL DON'T KNOW THE LOGIC FOR TYING THESE 2 EvENTS TO RELEASING THe RV/GCR when in the past they had NOTHING IN COMMON PLUS F&F & Privte Exchanges are happening now & it's NOT BEING DONE UNDER ThE TABLE LIKE LAST TIME)!!!

Bandito. Rox:Parliament rapporteur: the arrival of the budget is imminent and there is no holiday quarterly

Friday November 28, 2014 12:03

The Sumerian News / Baghdad 
Confirmed the decision of the House of Representatives Niazi architecture Ihsanoglu, on Friday, that the arrival of the federal budget to the parliament, "is imminent," as he pointed to the lack of holiday current legislative term. 

Ihsanoglu said in an interview for "Alsumaria News", "The arrival of the budget to the House of Representatives is very imminent," pointing out that "there is no holiday quarterly." 

Ihsanoglu said, "The reconstruction of Turkmen private areas our demand for 2015".

The Council of Ministers approved, on Thursday (November 27, 2014), amendments to the draft of the proposed budget in preparation for submission to the House of Representatives on Saturday evening, noting that it will be after the Board shall have a second review. 

The chairman of the House of Representatives Saleem al-Jubouri, on the first Wednesday (November 26, 2014), the existence of an initial indication on the advent of the federal budget to Parliament before the end of the current legislative term, referring to the possibility of extending this chapter if the arrival of the budget during the coming period.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alsumaria.tv%2Fnews%2F117470%2F%D9%85%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%88%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%83%D8%A7-%D9%88%D9%84%2Far

MILLIONDAY TIDBIT, 28 NOV

11-28-14 Millionday: THE ECONOMIC FAIR THAT IS GOING ON GOES TO THE 30TH OF NOVEMBER AND IS WHERE ALL AGREEMENTS ARE BEING SIGNED...THE ECONOMIC FAIR INCLUDES THE CBI AND MANY MINISTRIES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MARKET WITHIN THE GLOBE AND ALSO THE ACTIVATION OF CONTRACTS THEY ARE ADDRESSING ALL REGULATIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE "ON THE BOOKS" SO THEY ARE CAPABLE OF A SUCCESSFUL REFORM -- ADMIN-BANKING -- ECONOMIC--PRIVATE...ETC.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE FIRST TWO DAYS WOULD END WITH THE THURSDAY VOTE...ON THE AGENDA FOR THE BUDGET ETC AND THEN THE NEXT TWO DAYS OF THE SECOND MEETING WOULD END FOR SATURDAY TO BE THE LEGISLATION COMPLETION FOR THE ECONOMIC REFORMS WE HAVE READ SO MUCH ABOUT.
LET ME SUMMARIZE...THEY HAVE SIGNED A TEMPORARY HCL AGREEMENT TO COVER THE FUNDING SIDE OF THINGS -- THEY HAVE THE SMART CARDS READY -- THE BANKING REFORM LEGISLATION WILL BE VOTED ON SATURDAY... -- THE UNITED NATIONS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT THE IRAQI REFORMS HAVE BEGUN AND CBI HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THEY ARE DONE AND READY.
THE LAWS THEY ARE VOTING THROUGH DO NOT MATCH OR ARE NOT USEFUL WITH THE CURRENT IMPOSED RATE -- THE MANY COUNTRIES THAT HAVE SHOWN UP TO JOIN THE ECONOMIC MEETING THIS WEEKEND ARE SIGNING AGREEMENTS AND CONTRACTS.


THEY HAVE ALSO CALLED FOR THE COUNTRY INCLUDING THE AIRPORT (WHERE THEY HAVE A MONEY EXCHANGE BUSINESS) TO ONLY USE THE IRAQI DINAR -- THEY HAVE COMPLETED THE AGREEMENTS FOR RESOLVE WITH KUWAIT AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES FROM THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST GOI.THEY HAVE A UNIFIED GOV AND ARE ANNOUNCING THAT THEY ARE REFORMING THE COUNTRY IN ALL ASPECTS PLANNED BEGINNING WITH THE ECONOMIC SIDE OF THINGS.  WE HAVE THE BEST NEWS WE HAVE EVER HAD.