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Monday, November 10, 2014

S3A SHORT CHAT, 11 NOV

JOHN: Friend went to exchanged over the weekend. Told me if you don't hear from me you now what happen.he most likely had to sign nda

OMEGAMAN: your friend was a whale, 



take

it

RA: So...any updates?  did you hear from your friend?  If not, maybe it is a good sign

OILRAT: The way he is telling us the story It's pretty clear the results....he obviously has not heard from his friend.

TNT & S3A CHATS UPDATE, 10 NOV

TNT:

SANYOMAR: Does anyone know what rate popped up lately for Rupiah?  Haven't heard much about it.

ROGUE: $1.08

Stage3Alpha:

Condor November 10, 2014  It would be fitting to RV on Veterans Day! Tomorrow could be our day!

OMEGA MAN > Condor they say tuesday the letter we've been waiting for should be delivered..we hope...does that mean public exchanges...that i cannot say...still no confirmation on A group going in...

Herple Derple > OMEGA MAN I believe tomorrow is a bank holiday in the US so banks will be closed.

John R.  on November 10, 2014 Ever since someone posted how significant certain numbers are to the Chinese, I've been watching for numbers that I thought might be significant. I haven't seen where anyone has posted about tomorrow's date 11-11-2014. It's obvious, as far as the first two but, the third comes by using numerology. 1+1+1+1+2+0+1+4 = 11

D.K.C. > I like RV at 11:11 Am on 11/11.....Chinese like numerology....wouldn't that be something?

dinardiva > November 10, 2014  11/11/2014

1+1+1+1+2+0+1+4 = 11

OMEGA MAN > that's an awful lot of 11111s…that is a powerful number to the chinese...

Finnick Odair > There is a reason why Zap's update was delayed till tomorrow.

D.K.C. > Finnick Odair I was hoping because he was told Tuesday was RV day!

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Aloha Leslie November 10, 2014

Some interesting info from BGG:

Iraq currently possesses the experience and competencies existing in economic expertise what it takes to take the lead and initiate the self-reliance to develop the economy through the implementation of reform programmes and development policies suited to this stage.

He said the possibility that Iraq declined as the country imports of other goods and services that can be provided locally with rising oil exports, noting that it was an urgent necessity that the country is about to increase its exports of crude , Baidhani called finally to revalue Iraqi dinar increased purchasing power because of its profound impact on the development of economic reality and give additional force to currency [and] strengthen confidence among the world’s currency markets, especially that [the] dinar is covered by a cash reserve to be reckoned with.

Alsabaah.com

BGG ~ This is the HUGE NEWS of the WEEK!! Last paragraph is plain as day.


P.S. This same economist was on Iraqi TV right after this was published and saying essentially the same thing.

MILLIONDAY TIDBIT, 11 NOV

11-10-14 Millionday: THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO HOLD THE EXCHANGE RATE AT A STABLE RATE WHICH HAS SHOWN SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST FOR STABILITY AND THEY EXPECT THAT IT WILL SUPPORT THEM WHILE THEY ACTIVATE ALL OF THE PROJECTS.

THEY NEED TO REVALUE THE DINAR AND INCREASE PURCHASING POWER...GOES WITH THE NEWS THAT THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH ECONOMIC REFORM.

[IS THIS SAYING THEY NEED THIS TO REVALUE BEFORE THEY IMPLEMENT THE REFORMS SO IT IS READY TO PAY OUT?] IMO -- ALL WILL HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE MONEY WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TOOL IN THE ECONOMIC REFORM. [So essentially THEY ARE READY 100%?] CBI STATED THAT THEY ARE.

JCR3758 TWEET UPDATE, 10 NOV

@JCR3758: Choose to believe or not, your choice. In a few days the delays won't matter. We need this now. Thanksgiving will have a greater meaning.

 The foundation of any building is critical. So is the start of any plan. We finally fixed the errors caused by hasty exchanges. We are next

SUNNY POST FROM TNT: TONY CC CLIFF NOTES, 10 NOV

Highlights of Tony CC:  

  • Clawback Clause with other countries – stipulates USA is to pay public the contract rate.
  • Sr. Statesman has told T & DC, "You've earned your place at the table." 

 Tony:  “Until I see they are not living up to that, that's when we turn stuff over to the news stations, get hauled into court, testify before Congress.”

Tony:  “Payouts are going on right now, as we are talking about it. . 

.  This is not about me, about the information, about DC, Pam or Ray.  You’ve trusted me up to this point, to do the right thing, at the right time, to let out the information. . .  I think I will know, DC will know and other people talking to us will say, “let it go to hell, burn it all down.”  Don’t think we are there just yet.

Tony:  We have enough contacts people, inside this thing, at all levels, that will let us know if this is not going right.”

DC .. we have lots of bank information being fed to us because they don't want another Nov/Dec/Jan to happen and are giving us information

Tony:  “WE CAN TELL YOU WHO GOT PAID OUT THIS WEEKEND, WHERE AND WHEN AND HOW MUCH."

Chat Room/Forum Bills are due:  100,000 people listen to this call.  It's estimated another 100,000 or more receive the information.  Donation can be made at www.tntdinar.com    There is a  RED button on the left side of the page that says,"Donate."  If you can only give $1.00 it helps.

 IRAQ:
  • Media:  TV/Papers/Mosques:  announcing same messages, "economic reforms in process and progress,” and “Economic reforms will be completed.”  Bragging about how Iraq is turning a page; good government contracts released, etc.
  • Parliament continues to meet, conducting business.Not waiting for anything from Parliament
  • CBI ready. all coins not out yet
  • Civil Unrest:  Frustration ready to boil over: The USA holding things up known within the mosques and other world leaders.  TV is showing the Iraq people rioting in the streets, demanding removal of 3 zero’s. Concern it is building daily and will explode.  With the history of the Arab Spring and ISIS going Iraq does not need this accitional concern. Tony felt  this could spill over to other countries, government’s and wonder about all the work going down the drain.  This just increases the pressure to get the RV done.
  • Iraq Contact: Tony read the following he had received from this person:   "T & P, thank all the TNT members praying for peace and against ISIS war. Thank you for all the comments.Glad to see TNT group thinking of him and Iraq." 
    This is someone Tony talked to a few years ago and has now been elevated to a high position and monitors the TNT CC. . . they know who is holding it up and they are finding out its USA. 
    He appreciates our caring about the people of Iraq.

UNITED STATES
  • US Exchanges going on for 10 days now. Rates are all over the place and based on the conversation you have with them at exchange. Some banks have refused to participate feeling it’s a gray area. 
  • Clawback Clause with other countries – stipulates USA is to pay public the contract rate.

Roll-Out Procedure: DC said plan has been changed umpteen times.  First they said they wanted to get through larger, bigger players as they will take longer and give the bank teams practice.Intent was VIP’s 1st 3-4 days and then those on internet, ¼ million, would take 3-5 days.Then those who are not paying attention, our friends and family, will get the info.Our understanding we are in that same process.The 3-5 days will be more like 10.  Still get 800’s.

 NDA: - some received a 5 or 7 page document and some something else. Banks do not all have the same procedures ie, release of funds, timing of release as within 24 hours of deposit to  day 23.

  • Delay:  Administration was ready to go and then “got in a pissing match.”  Some did not think the issues they were fighting over was important. Caused frustration in Iraq, banks, and rest of the world.  Senior statesmen/women working behind the scenes to get everyone back to the table. To work out changes, getting everyone in line and back on track. 

T – “Our Timing is again this week some time.  That it’s real.  I said, ‘yeah, it was real last week too

  •  Caller reported Iraq dinar coins, 25, 50 and 100's, being sold on Ebay

CLOSING STATEMENTS:

 DC – . . . For the love of God, have a plan, have a plan, have a plan before you spend a dime.

Pam:  if you are going to spend a dime, TNTdinar.com has a donate button.  For the 100,000 who listen tot his call you don’t have to be a member.  Happy birthday to marines.  It’s their birthday today.  Happy Veterans Day today.  My husband listens and he was army. To all our veterans we appreciate you so much.

Ray: Ditto Pam’s comments to all the Veterans.  Happy Veterans Day.  I’m excited. 

Tony:  Happy Veterans Day to all you guys.  We deserve it.  Wouldn’t
Feel good about our info today this is happening.  . . . Information is flowing and we’ll continue to get it.  Because banks ready, processing people . . . today, we feel good about the info.  Every bank is not doing it.  . . . Not put their head on the chopping block. . . It’s all been scheduled. 
Iraq is being more vocal.  Their Parliament has been voicing this for weeks. . . As of yesterday it was on TV and then in the streets.  It’s their job, responsibility to get it pushed forward.  We know they listen to us.  Receive messages from them.  

They read our boards, comments.  Gov. people listen. . . I think we are in a good place.  Just go through this next phase . . . if it actually goes through.  . . . and then make a decision, at the right time . . . today is not the right time. . . 
We got something totally different to deal with anyway, just because we are giving you information. . . we have to pay an additional price. 

Also, want to thank all government people who are supporting us. I got to be specific about this one person.  People got upset because I was talking about George Bush. I saw him on Oprah, read his book . . . and understand him.   Don’t like people because they are Republicans or Democrats. . . like them for who they are. . . I respect individuals. . . Believe it or not, there are some democrats who don’t want to do what you guys want done.  Some of them are supporting us too. . . people of all religions, ethnic backgrounds come together to make this change.  If it were not for some democrats and republicans, we would not be having this conversation today.  It was groups out of both sides that came together to bring us to where we are today. . . 
Idiots out there posting things about me, DC, Pam even Okie.  . . Not helping you . . . not making anything better. . . 
Happy Veterans Day to all our veterans out there.   I’d love nothing better than come back here today.

“We can’t help everyone, but everyone can help someone”
                                                             Ronald Reagan

TNT CC NOTES, 10 NOV

11-10-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1 - Truncated as I got cut off…Precis: Sorry for the delay, should go today/tomorrow):
Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=62205663
Pam:  there is a post on Bank Perks that people can ask for when they go to the bank.  That is posted in the Banking forum and also on the front page under Tony Blasts, so that people who are not members can also have access to this post.  That does increase the bill --- which doubled last month after DC came out of the closet.  Is that okay with you? 
Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Monday, November 10, 2014.  We are set to go here.  Today’s will be a little different.  We’ll talk about where we are at, and some behind the scenes information, and explain our strategy and what we should and shouldn’t do.  The reason we will do all that is that I got text and calls yesterday and lots of people want us to start up the Twitter campaign to expose and demand things.  I’ll tell you were we are at, and also in life:  do what you feel is the right thing to do, what you feel you can get away with or what causes you the most pain you can stand.  This will be and informative and enlightening call on all levels.

We are in a very good situation, and I’ll tell you why.  We have been asked not to do some things, and I’ll tell you why on that, too, because the more information you have, the more you will understand.  It will make sense to most of you, though not to the idiots, fidiots and those who don’t understand the process.  We will give a little more information than they expected today, with both sides of the question.  DC will answer some of your questions, too, right, DC?

At this point, you’ve got to realize by now… I’ve had people call me including other gurus, discussing what we can do as a group, heading in one direction, and all that make sense.  But as DC will tell you, we have people directly involved in the process who are saying it’s okay and here is where we are.  Just like last November, we have people in the government giving us exact details of the times, process and people who are involved.  I”ll just give you the overview of where we are with the entire process and what we can look forward to here and in Iraq.  We are the people!

DC:  East to west, in Iraq they are running the same thing, that the economic reforms are in process and in progress. There are interviews with finance minsters and the CBI, explaining the process yet again.  They say it will be completed in the coming days, and meetings in Iraq with international folks, and how Iraq is turning a page and doing wonderful things with the government and contracts, and very positive things with ISIL.  Parliament met all weekend and earlier today, continuing to pass laws and help propel their country forward, and that’s going very well.  It’s important for everyone that they continue to push forward.  The CBI is ready, coins are where they should be for distribution and some have been passed out.  Those are going on now.

There is a lot of frustration boiling over, and that is getting briefed to all world leaders.  The three-zero notes revaluation is being held up by the US, and that is causing a lot of frustration. Before they said, “international community” but now they are saying the US is holding it up.  That’s being told in the mosques and to international leaders, and that is causing a lot of frustration and anger, and there is the threat of riots.  This is NOT what you want in the middle of an insurgent war in your own country.  There has been some wonderful progress against ISIL by the coalition, hitting a lot of the senior leaders.  That’s a very good thing for us, and deserves a lot of applause.  That’s Iraq!

Tony:  Let’s split this up.  A bunch of people want to do a campaign  to put pressure on our banks and government officials.  A week and a half ago, I got the messge from over there that they want to do a twitter campaign, and I said to tweet #wearethepeopleiraq.  We understand now that they’ve gone past that and are now taking to the streets, and it’s being televised.  We predicted this six weeks ago. The intel guys said that it’s building, that the streets are starting to rumble and people are getting upset.  They are doing what they need to do to express themselves to their leaders and their country.  That is what they need to do, and we saw the Arab Spring in other countries.  If they let this build up every day, all hell with break loose and they will have to tear down what they built up over the last year.  It don’t think anyone wants to live with that.

Pam, I didn’t get the text/email I am supposed to discuss. I wanted to read a text from over there from one of our contacts in the Middle East.  It’s from an important person.  He says, “Thanks for everything, and all the TNT members praying for peace and help against the ISIL war and all the comments.  Glad to see TNT is thinking of him and Iraq.”  This is someone who we talked to a couple of years ago, now in a high position, who monitors all our calls. They are listening and they are thankful for those thinking not just of the money but for Iraq as well.  I asked if he wants to send a direct message. They are aware of the people and their emotions, and he will get back to me.  There is an active thing going on with their citizens, and at this point, we need to let them do what THEY do to force the release of the RV.  That is up to them, they have a voice, and they can have a clearcut reaction – and every other government will see it and be concerned that all their work will go down the drain if they don’t do something about this.

DC:  They are finding out the US is behind the delays, in Iraq and elsewhere.

Tony:  They are finding out who is really holding it up, and that defeats the point of fighting ISIL for them if we are still holding down their economy – mixed message.

DC:  In the USA, the UN guys are jumping up and down to get this done.  The administration had everything beautifully lined up, then got into a message starting on Thursday.  Everything was cued up nicely for the weekend, then they got into a pissing match over things that others didn’t think they needed to fight over. That causes a lot of consternation and frustrations on the part of everyone else in the world including the banks.  We have some senior statesmen and women who have been diligently working behind the scenes and get them back to the table again.  They are getting them back in line to work out the final changes that need to be made.  Those men and women were very successful throughout the weekend and got everyone back on track.  However, everything got delayed again.  But we are very grateful to those people, but we are now back on track and we are back on the rollout process again.

Since Friday before last, they have been exchanging people – mainly politicians and bank-invited people.  That slowed back down at the weekend and has now taken off again.  This makes me very angry.  “Come on, already – let’s go!”  But at least we are getting back on track.  Bottom line, I want all of us to get paid, and what gets us paid is letting the top guys calm everyone down and moving again on the process.

So the banks have started cranking up exchanges again. Some banks are very ready for this, and some are actually exchanging.  Exchange are all over the board.  We have people in every bank, the UST and IMF, and they are feeding us information so that we DON”T have another December/January again.  In summary, we are waiting on the US, and now it’s in back in the process and moving on.

Tony:  Let’s talk about #wearethepeople, because you are upset that some people are being paid and you are not.  We went through the list, some people are black and some are white, and some don’t even know why they were on the list.  We have gone through the NDA – some got five pages, some got seven pages, some got more.  Some banks are doing their procedures differently, in terms of when your money is released.  There is a break down on how much you get the first day and the third day, and also a breakdown on the fee.  Your rate is based on the conversation you have at the bank.  We are NOT trying to hurt the process. We are asked not to hurt the process, and I don’t want to hurt the process, but many are asking me to hurt the process.  When people called me this weekend, I told them just this:  do what you want to do.  But I know what I have, and I know what I can produce if I’m called before Congress.  If you can do the same, that’s fine.  Our aim is to be treated fairly in the RV, that’s all, as people who fought in the war and those who are helping develop Iraq by buying the dinar.  One politician said that we have earned our place at the table, and I will take him at his work.  We have all done that, and that was our agreement. Until I see that they’re not living up to that agreement, that is when we protest, turn stuff over to newspapers and the world at large, and Congress.  We hope it doesn’t get to that, because it will be a mess.  At this moment, we don’t have an argument apart from “they are paying people out today and I’m not one of them”.  I get that argument!

I have been highly targeted by some of our government, bad apples with a lot of power.  The same thing with the banking system – they don’t even want us to have a bank account in the US.  You don’t know the level we are being scrutinized at.  If it were just about me, I could tell you the locations, people and rate they paid out this weekend – if I were only thinking about what they are doing to DC and me.  I’ll deal with that when it comes time.  If that’s what this is all about, about the money, then we could do that, but it’s not about that, it’s about everyone exchanging and being treated fairly.  So when I get the calls from the other gurus, it’s not right, they don’t really know what is going on.  There ARE people trying to push this through, and chopping their legs off wouldn’t help.  That’s why I’m saying it’s not time to do this unless I see them blocking our exchange.

Do I trust this?  NO, because I’ve heard it all before.

DC:  Many folks in the process feel the same way we do.  Some people are not very nice, and they are doing some nasty things.  The point is, a lot of the banks just don’t trust these people any more because they’ve heard it’s going in the next couple of days, so they are following the letter of their contract. They are tired of hearing “It’s happening, just trust me”.  So they are doing this in a very procedural way, by the book, and a lot has to be done that way.  They are viewing this in the worst possible light.  Several more banks would be exchanging now, but they are too nervous and they are going to wait until X or Y.  A lot of these banks feel this way because they have been burned by having this stop and start so many times.  Even those very involved are waiting to see how this pans out.

Tony: So while we have a few banks who are participating, some major banks and the tier 2 banks are not taking part because they feel unprotected.  This is even dividing the banking industry, and I completely understand that.  We wanted to give you a better picture of what’s going on, why some are being exchanged and some are not.  I told you the NDA most are signing is five pages, and we have the information on that, and it’s nothing to be concerned over.  We are still getting the information, still trying to protect us and still on our side. We were asking not to start anything that will mess it up. Our timing is again this week, and they are saying, “this time it’s for real”.  But last week it was for real, too.  Now we have the firm numbers of how many are being paid on a daily basis.  We know that and we know the future plan for that, and that’s giving us a little bit of confidence that this will go and what the banks are going.

DC:  So some folks will say, “Hey you both sold out and you’re just doing what the admin-istration tells you to do”.  We can’t win for losing in this argument and here is why. There are people in this administration who have been downright evil jerks towards us and our families, using some flexible powers towards us.  We are not protecting anyone – they are coming after us!  Cooler heads are telling them to calm down and not go after these two little guys – we are not a big deal.  If we were selling out, why would we continue with this?  Some others think we are bad guys.  As these changes have happened, we have been asked to keep things calm so that we don’t mess up the resolutions they are working on.  If they are trying to help the process along, and get the Iraqi and US citizens paid, that is all we are trying to do anyway.  We know those trying to solve the issues and move past the funny business, if those are the people asking us to keep it calm and not hurt the situation, then we will pay attention because we want to help this along.  It’s a judgement call, and this is the best way to help.

Tony:  If they could see a better view of the picture, they will understand better.  So that is what we are trying to explain where we are, on all sides.  We don’t like all sides – I don’t like any of them right now, to be honest – and I know you won’t be happy about all the details either, but let’s just get the process done.  There are some things where you will have to make decisions on your own, on the spur of the moment, and those will be easier if you think about them beforehand.  People are upset in Iraq and it has to boil over there.  If our people are not being treated fairly in the US, then we will take steps because we know who is participating and who is not, and who is on the list.  Some of our own people are saying goodbye because they have exchange, and family members have exchanged.  Those make us feel good, but there are not enough of us.  We wanted to see what would happen over the weekend because we were told it was supposed to bust out over the weekend.  Now we are being told this week, and we’ll have to see what happens.  For that reason, we won’t take action unless we are being treated unfairly.

503 caller:  I noticed ebay is selling the Iraqi dinar coin – is that a good sign that the RV is happening?

Tony:  Are they the new ones or the old ones?

Caller:  They showed the 25, 50 and 100 coins.  I ordered some from a person in Jordan, and there were sellers from Denmark, China, and other places.

Tony:  I didn’t see that, and don’t know why they would actually sell their money!

Caller:  If you were in Iraq right now, people don’t want the coins because it would take a lot to buy anything.  Right now you can buy 50 or 100 for about three dollars.  If they are making a profit, what are they buying them for in Iraq.  Would the rate be $300 for 100d?

Tony:  They wouldn’t buy currency over there, they are changing old notes for new notes.  They are trying to get the three-zero notes off the street, we were told this morning.  Pam?  Twelve loaves of bread cost how much?

DC:  Bread used to cost 5,000 dinar and now cost five dinar.

Tony: Is that all over?  I don’t know, because there are five different rates.  Saturday they said that something happened that would affect all of Iraq and that was the RV… but here we are on Monday morning without the RV because someone stopped it.

Today we’re having Truth and Consequences.  We get a lot of information, and some things they ask us not to tell.   Sometimes we get things and we choose NOT to put them out because of all the idiots and other guru sites; some is contradictory, and some is not that important until you go to the bank, so it’s not worth fussing and fighting over it.  Everybody is going to have a call after this call, and it’s going to be about this call, this information, or saying Tony and DC are liars, or whatever.  We don’t you do have to ride the same rollercoaster every day.  It’s cruel, and some people cannot handle the truth, and the fact that it will change at 5pm this afternoon, so they don’t have to go through that.  It’s bad enough we have to got through it!

 Caller:  I listen to a certain call and sometimes they mock some of the gurus, they really do follow what you are doing and don’t call the RV.  You put yourselves on the line and you have been burned.  I do appreciate that you do the appreciation and keeping us more calm.  Organizing #wearethepeople was a great thing, and we appreciate that you speak the truth in parallel with this other call, and that is great.

Tony:  I thank you for that, but it’s not about me. It’s about the information and putting the pieces together, and seeing the patterns, often 3-4 days later.  We want you know the possibilities as the banks are getting geared up.  Some people only want to know when it actually goes.  We want you to have the whole picture.  The bank people are sitting in their rooms without their phones and having lunch shipped in – that’s the reality.

Caller:  I have two WF advisors;  one cannot tell me anything conclusive, and the other has dinar. People just need to stop with the sour grapes and accept reality.

DC: A lot of this has been brutal.  We have calls three day per week, and it’s up and down.  Those who speak once a month will have a smoother approach.  Some people cannot not handle day-to-day stuff.  I cannot handle a lot of emotion, and my wife calls me a freight train, just moving forward.  A lot of folks are not appreciating the fact that if they cannot handle the info in the moment, they should take a step back.  Is this logical?  Hell, no!  But it’s the way it is, so if you can’t handle that, step back and get the bigger view, or know it’s a roller coaster and get ready for going up and down.

Tony:  People have put personal stuff on the boards, and that is just stupid.  We are just a couple of guys trying to help other people understand this.

Caller:  That’s why that other call is once a week, and you speak three times a week, and some people want info every hour.  [Appreciation]  This is highly speculative, and the big bucks are waiting on the side for the arbitrage.

352 caller:  We are supposed to get an 800 number, I guess, right?  The information you put out about people being called in, one by one.  So when they release that 800 number, they will be flooded all over the country.

Tony:  There is a rollout plan, and this weekend there were some options.

DC:  This rollout procedure is what they are working on now. They have changed it many times now.  Right now, what they want to do is Friday blast, after getting through some of the bigger players plus some random customers who are good practice for our teams. So they started this process to ease some of the time constraints.  Before junk happened, the intent was for VIPS for three days, and then the folks who listen to the internet, about 250,000 people over three days or so.  By the nature of information flow, our friends and family would then be told to go in.  This would slow the whole process down.  It is our understanding that we are still in that process, but it’s more like ten days rather than three or four days.  But we are still getting the 800 number, or at least that is the plan today.

Caller:  A lot of us are really being gutted here, because we know you are getting information, good and bad, that you are not telling us.

Tony:  You’re right, and that’s why we are doing the call this way today.  We are not the only ones who know that people were paid out this week and today.  It’s a good day for you to see both sides and know where we’re at.  This is not about me, it’s about all of our intel gatherers:  you’ve trusted us up to this point to let out the right information.  Please continue to do that.  I don’t want people to make a fuss that will stop us right here if they don’t have the right information or the right people.  I will know and say when it’s time to burn it all down, if that would get the desired results.  I don’t think we are there just yet.

Caller:  We trust you and DC and trust you know when to pull the cork out the bottle and let the genie out.

Tony:  In all seriousness, I think we will know the right moment.  We have enough people at all levels in this thing.  The moment it looks like it will not go through the way we think, we’ll be getting calls from everyone.

618 caller:  My question is this:  what are your thoughts about the chatter regarding the arrests of the cabal? I keep reading this on other sites, and such.

Tony:  I’ve been doing this for over four years, and every two or three months, Obama, Biden, Boehner, etc. are getting arrested, and they are going to replace the government over the weekend… that we are going to see a whole new government in place and we had nothing to do with it.  Who does that make sense to?  I’ve heard we will get all new currency, and they will notify people over the emergency warning system – who does that make sense to?

DC:  The only arrests I’m aware of are of the people who have taken advantage of people in nefarious ways, who have double-dipped or put money in wrong places for bad people.  Those are the only arrests I’ve heard of.

Caller:  My recommendation is pretty simple.  How about we institute a “One-question Wednesday”?  The caller can ask one question and then move on.

Tony: That sounds great – if we have call on Wednesday, we’ll try it out.

786 caller:  First time caller, here!  I’ve been on the forum for a couple of years, and now I’ve been banned, so I need to get hold of Pam to figure out what happened.

Pam:  There is usually a good reason, so they may not want me to address this here.

Tony:  I’ll make a note to pass on to Pam and she will call you.

Caller:  This thing is dragging on.  Can the IMF force it internationally and leave the US out of it?

DC: They can, but they haven’t so far.  I think Iraq will force the IMF to do that.  [static]

I strongly believe pressures are escalating at an extremely fast pace now, and this delay is extremely counter-productive to all parties, even those creating the delay.  We will know it’s happened because we will see the new rates on the screens at the banks and exchanges.  There may be a news blip on the financial news, explaining the currency reform.  I think they will downplay it as much as possible. [background noise]  You will see the rate change on the CBI site at the end of the process.

Tony:  The only currency being exchanged right now is the dinar, not the others. [Too much background noise, I had to stop transcribing at 12.31, 80 minutes into the call.]

From the TNT chat room, more information:

When you call the 800 number, they will ask for your name, email, amount of currency, and the zip code where you want to exchange.  They will then give you the exchange location in or nearest to that zip code.  There will be a straight 2% fee.  DC said that he doesn’t know for sure, but has been told that if you attempt to negotiate that fee, you will be kicked to the end of the bus.  You always have the option to exchange with the dealer (but only at international rate) and the dealer will also charge a fee, don’t know how much, plus you’ll have to transfer your funds to a bank anyway.  But you do have that option.

Someone asked if there is some kind of agreement in place to make sure ordinary citizen get at least a chance at the contract rates.  Yes, there is a simple contract to fill a certain percentage with contract rate, and if that is not fulfilled, then there will be clawbacks from those who got high contract rates last winter.  [Tony says} People are being all sorts of rates and they have options to get paid even higher. And we know this has been going on, last week for four days, the week before, and we are kind of like those guys in Washington who are watching out for us, saying “Okay” cause the plan is for Sat/Sun for all of us to go so we won’t raise any hell.  I wouldn’t want to go through the public scrutiny that’s about to happen, because good people will do the right thing, I don’t care if they are under an NDA or oath, when it actually comes down to it, standing in front of a courtroom, they will do the same thing. They are doing it right now, defying their bosses;  what makes you think they won’t do this when it becomes public?  There is safety in numbers for you guys, because me and DC are definitely out there.  They have groups of attorney who want to get this info;  someone on the call sends me texts all day, because the banks are committing unfair business practices.  It could get really ugly for the banks;  if there are class action suits, the general public will react to that.  Nobody wants to go through that. They need to get it over with so we can all go in, gonna’ happen within 72 hours.

DC:  I believe that this is NOT an attempt to drag it out to January – the election was too decisive for that.  There is no motivation to do that for more than 1-2 days. 

GOAT LORD POST FROM TNT: TRAVELEX STORY, 10 NOV

Goat Lord: Exciting times! Travelex story

After hearing the travelex story this weekend From UT (think).  my son was encouraging me to call the travelex in pa.  So I did!  the lady on the phone acknowledge the dinar but said they had no word that they would be exchanging it.  Then she asked me if I said dinar or dong?  I said dinar but if she wanted to give me info re the dong, I'd be interested.  

So she gave me the current exchange rate for dong and told me of a situation she had a week ago with a man that came in to get 40,000 dong who was on the phone with someone and they were traveling back to Vietnam to take it home.  "So something big is happening "

 I then asked her about the zim and she said that they were very surprised when they heard it would be reevaluating but she was not sure if its in the "first roll out, or next".   She did also state that receipts and verification would be required at time of exchange.  

She said when the are cleared to exchange she thought they could only do small amounts because of the value it sounds that it should go at "heard $8-10". I said yes I had heard those numbers too but wasn't sure.  

 We were very encouraged because I had contacted several banks and even travelex months back and all had said the same "scam or didn't handle and wouldn't".  But this time she was VERY open and talkative !!!

She was referring to the dinar in $8-10 rate but acknowledged that the dong would be a good exchange also.

IKO WARD TIDBIT, 10 NOV

IKO WARD : Forex is very active this morning. The spread mimics the CBI. This tells me that big traders are going for position. The positive is they expect something ti happen. The negative is probably not today. But always remember, Forex follows the market or tries to project what it thinks the market will be. And Forex is only one piece of the pie.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 10 NOV

11-10-2014Intel/Newshound Guru tman23 On Monday Kurdistan Region Prime Minister Nechirvan Barzani will address the Kurdistan Parliament to talk about KRG oil and gas policies and layout the government plans for oil and gas...THIS ALONG WITH THE HCL BEING IN PARLIAMENT SAYS ONE THING...DONE DEAL!

11-10-2014   Newshound Guru tlm724
   It is noteworthy that this law does not deal with the related issue of investment in the oil sector, where the Iraqi government is scheduled to prepare before the end of the current year a bill and send it to Parliament for approval. This law and all that it affords will turn Iraq around economically and not only will this law help the Iraqi's but it will assure investors that they are protected and receive tax breaks etc... Talk about creating an atmosphere of confidence, the passage of this law after 8 years on the books will do it!   [post 2 of 2]

11-10-2014   Newshound Guru tlm724
   Some very exciting things are happening in Iraq this week but I want to concentrate on the Investment Law of 2006 for just a few minutes. This law is on parliaments agenda for Nov 11th for it's first reading.    Haidar al-Abadi, head of the Economic Committee in the Iraqi parliament, said that "We hope the new law will boost the Iraqi economy by reducing unemployment, qualified Iraqis to develop Iraqi capabilities, and raising the standard of living of Iraqi citizens in general."   Yes that is the new Prime Minister Abadi!  He was head of the Economic Committee.   He was the one who helped write this law.  He will make sure the economic laws we seek will be presented to parliament and with Jubouri at his side we will see them all come to pass!  post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-10-2014   Intel Guru TerryK
   A BIG WIG CALLED ME AND SAID WED...NO LATER...  ALOT OF GOOD STUFF GOING ON.  SO WITH THAT SAID...I WOULD SAY BE SURE YOU HAVE CLEAN UNDERWEAR READY.  MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR DOCS YOU WILL NEED.   I'M GETTING MY BAGS PACKED.   NO KIDDING THIS IS THAT GOOD.

11-10-2014   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG
    [how u feeling about all of this honestly?  i know u are excited, on a scale 1 to 10?]  8

11-10-2014   Intel Guru Freeway Bill
  
 Well, we are certainly excited, frustrated, confused, dismayed, uplifted, beat down, but the sun still shines...   Obama is not stopping this, Putin is not stopping it, the CBI is ready and so are we.... 

11-10-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
    THAT BILL WILL REPRESENT THAT AMOUNT AND THEY MAY GIVE REGULATIONS AS TO HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO EXCHANGE IN ALL COUNTRIES AS THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON.  YOUR DINAR OR YOUR DOLLAR OR YEN WILL NEVER JUST BE AS IF IT HAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER ON IT.   THAT IS SILLY AND AGAINST INTERNATIONAL LAW OR WORLD ECONOMICS WOULD BE IN THE TOILET.   [post 3 of 3]

11-10-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   IN THE COUNTRY THEY ARE PULLING THE THREE ZERO CURRENCY --- NOT REMOVING BY PEN OR FIRE THE 3 ZEROS -- THEY WILL REDENOMINATE IN THE COUNTRY AS THEY HAVE STATED OR NOT --- AND OUT SIDE THE COUNTRY AN EXCHANGE RATE WILL BE SET FOR ALL COUNTRIES -- YOU HAVE A FACE VALUE PAIRED TO WHAT THAT VALUE IS IN YOUR COUNTRY -- AND EVEN NOW YOU HAVE A FACE VALUE AMOUNT PAIRED TO WHAT COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN -- YOU MAY GO TODAY AND DO WHAT YOU WOULD DO AT A HIGHER RATE -- EXCHANGE FOR THE VALUE LISTED.   [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

11-10-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday    THERE WAS SOMEONE...SAYING THAT THE CURRENCY OF IRAQ WAS GOING TO BE LESSENED IN VALUE BY 3 ZEROS FOR US ALL AND THE VALUE OF WHAT YOU HOLD WOULD BE THAT MUCH LESS TO START WITH AND IRAQ WAS GOING TO BLEEP US --- THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE MOST MISINFORMED STATEMENT I HAVE HEARD IN THE WHOLE INVESTMENT.  CURRENCY IS NOT JUST A PIECE OF PAPER -- IT IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT AND IS SIGNED BY OFFICIALS IN EACH COUNTRY --- LOOK AT ONE YOU HAVE...THE CONFUSION...LIES IN THE IN COUNTRY AND OUT COUNTRY CONFUSION WITHIN NEWS -- OBVIOUSLY.   [post 1 of 3....stay tuned] [Scroll down to See Guru TD and Guru Delta's referenced posts on 11-9-2014 Below]

11-10-2014   Newshound Guru wmawhite
   [CITIZENS OF KARBALA DEMANDING DELETE ZEROS FROM CURRENCY...what does this mean...if anything?]    I believe it is very good that more folks from outside of Baghdad are calling for the same thing.

JCR3758 TWEETS, 10 NOV

@JCR3758: The rollout may be slower than we want but it hasn't stopped. I prefer that it is streamlined and accurate when it's our turn.

@JCR3758: This is just a process. Like it or not we have to deal with it. Sure we all want the details and step by step but sometimes can't. We wait.

@JCR3758: Guys don't let the stress or the misinformation from other sites force u to lose your focus. We need to stand together here & see this thru

FREEWAY BILL UPDATE: " THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FINEST TIME, SO BE PATIENT AND LET IT COME TO YOU", 10 NOV

This is going to be the finest times, so be patient and let it come to you ~ Freeway Bill

Well, we are certainly excited, frustrated, confused, dismayed, uplifted, beat down, but the sun still shines and GOD is still in control of everything!

 This post will be without any warnings of people after your money, people trying to grab your fears and turn them into financial gain for them. 

This post will be without any "guru" nonsense of a friend of a friend who knows somebody that could possibly know someone who has been paid already...

I just want you to stop and smell the roses.  We have lost so many dinar friends since we got involved that will not be there to celebrate the end of this journey.....

I Love my Family and I Love my friends and most of all I LOVE my SAVIOUR!  Therefore, I wait patiently knowing that our blessing will come and will come safely.....

Obama is not stopping this, Putin is not stopping it, the CBI is ready and so are we.... 

Have faith, stay strong and keep your eyes on the Heavens as when we we take our eyes off of that, we stray and put $$ to high on our priority list.

Many are hurting financially and we pray for them daily... They will soon rise above all....

 God Bless all of You this November night and GOD BLESS THE USA!

 FREEWAY BILL

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 10 NOV

TNT:

Saila:  BREATHE THIS IN.. WE ARE IN THE MOMENT RIGHT BEFORE YOUR LIVES CHANGE FOREVER.. ARE YOU REALLY SURE OF YOUR FIRST 20 MOVES? IF NOT MAYBE THAT IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING YOUR TIME…..

IT IS TIME TO GO TO THE BANK AND ALL OF THE PTB KNOW HOW PATIENT WE HAVE BEEN AND WE ARE AT ANYTIME NOW MODE…..

JUST GIVE YOURSELVES CREDIT FOR HANGING IN THERE AND DESPITE ALL CHALLENGES, YOU ARE HERE AND READY AND SET TO RECEIVE THE RESET.

bamaltc : Remember, this is inevitable. Even some of the naysaying gurus are now using that word. The only thing that is changing is our emotions about it.

Saila:  BAMALTC, PRECISELY... FOLKS ARE GETTING PAID AND WE ARE IN THE CUE... THAT IS ALL GOOD NEWS 

Totally Blessed :  Well, the CBI and Forex and xe.com need to catch up...slow pokes! :)

Saila :  CBI AND FOREX WILL NOT BE UPDATED UNTIL AFTER YOU ARE OUT OF THE BANKS….NOT WANTING TO SPEAK FOR TONY AND DC. THAT IS WHAT THEY SAID NOTING MONDAY OR TUESDAY ..

Saila :  THERE ARE NO MORE EXCUSES OR EXPLANATIONS.. .IT IS NOW OUR TIME AND TURN...

Saila :  NO MORE TO DO EXCEPT TO GET READY AND STAY READY TO GO.

Kegler:  It is just a currency exchange. We are not defusing a bomb. Exchange your currency. Move your money around. Invest wisely. Spend slowly.

TERRYK UPDATE, 10 NOV

11-10-2014 Intel Guru TerryK 

A BIG WIG CALLED ME AND SAID WED...NO LATER... ALOT OF GOOD STUFF GOING ON. SO WITH THAT SAID...I WOULD SAY BE SURE YOU HAVE CLEAN UNDERWEAR READY. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR DOCS YOU WILL NEED. I'M GETTING MY BAGS PACKED. NO KIDDING THIS IS THAT GOOD.


JOHN MACHAFFIE : INTEL UPDATES, 10 NOV

JOHN MACHAFFIE: INTEL UPDATES 11/10/14

REPUBLIC – SCHEDULED FOR AN APPEARANCE BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT THIS MORNING. ANNOUNCEMENT SCHEDULED FOR AFTER THIS MEET ----

TO BE FOLLOWED BY GLOBAL RESET ANNOUNCEMENT AND RV.

SHALL BE SHOWN ON EMERGENCY BROADCAST NETWORK WHICH PREEMPTS ALL STATIONS. IT BE SEEN ON ALL TV CHANNELS BY LAW.

EXCHANGING – ONGOING TO PRIVATE SELECT INDIVIDUALS. SUPPOSE TO HAVE 800 NUMBERS FOR GROUPS. WE SHALL SEE! GROUPS TO BE EXCHANGING AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PUBLIC.

RUMORS OF ANOTHER 2 WEEK DELAY FOR PUBLIC IS NOT TOLERABLE !

MILLIONDAY TIDBIT, 10 NOV

11-10-14 Millionday: THERE WAS SOMEONE...SAYING THAT THE CURRENCY OF IRAQ WAS GOING TO BE LESSENED IN VALUE BY 3 ZEROS FOR US ALL AND THE VALUE OF WHAT YOU HOLD WOULD BE THAT MUCH LESS TO START WITH AND IRAQ WAS GOING TO BLEEP US --- THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE MOST MISINFORMED STATEMENT I HAVE HEARD IN THE WHOLE INVESTMENT.  CURRENCY IS NOT JUST A PIECE OF PAPER -- IT IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT AND IS SIGNED BY OFFICIALS IN EACH COUNTRY --- LOOK AT ONE YOU HAVE...THE CONFUSION...LIES IN THE IN COUNTRY AND OUT COUNTRY CONFUSION WITHIN NEWS -- OBVIOUSLY.

IN THE COUNTRY THEY ARE PULLING THE THREE ZERO CURRENCY --- NOT REMOVING BY PEN OR FIRE THE 3 ZEROS -- THEY WILL REDENOMINATE IN THE COUNTRY AS THEY HAVE STATED OR NOT --- AND OUT SIDE THE COUNTRY AN EXCHANGE RATE WILL BE SET FOR ALL COUNTRIES -- YOU HAVE A FACE VALUE PAIRED TO WHAT THAT VALUE IS IN YOUR COUNTRY -- AND EVEN NOW YOU HAVE A FACE VALUE AMOUNT PAIRED TO WHAT COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN -- YOU MAY GO TODAY AND DO WHAT YOU WOULD DO AT A HIGHER RATE -- EXCHANGE FOR THE VALUE LISTED.

THAT BILL WILL REPRESENT THAT AMOUNT AND THEY MAY GIVE REGULATIONS AS TO HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO EXCHANGE IN ALL COUNTRIES AS THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON. YOUR DINAR OR YOUR DOLLAR OR YEN WILL NEVER JUST BE AS IF IT HAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER ON IT.   THAT IS SILLY AND AGAINST INTERNATIONAL LAW OR WORLD ECONOMICS WOULD BE IN THE TOILET.

EXOGEN UPDATE: WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW?, 10 NOV

Meekseeker:WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW?

WE ARE IGNITING CHANGE. NETWORKING, PLANNING AND TAKING ACTION!
WE ARE NOT GIVING UP AND STAYING CONNECTED!