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Wednesday, October 29, 2014

EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL UPDATED, 29 OCT

Omegaman: very good source says admiral goes in today/tonight...

GT: Updated Clues..........

We have a Bookshelf/Library Full of knowledge at our disposal (USE IT & LEVERAGE IT)!!!

Announcements and Plans are overlapping & Intersecting Each other


Part 3 of The RV Plan includes the HCL Agreement & Iraqi Budget Announcement

The USD Index currently listed at $.85


Dust off your alternative Short Term & Long Term Plans because you need to be ready for anything!!!


Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now!!!!


Watch out for the maze they may set up for us CLAIMING FREE CHEESE!!!

RRRR TIDBIT FROM TNT, 29 OCT

Rrrr: 100% of all RV's where the value has changed over $0.50 have occurred on a Wednesday! (IMF Website)…100% of all RV's since 1985 have occurred in April or September! (IMF Website)… Today is the last Wednesday in September…. Sooooo Ya thinkin’ what I’m a thinkin’?

MARKZ TWEET, 29 OCT

MarkZ  MarkZ @originalmarkz  ·  12m
Things are lining up for a historic weekend. I am excited but staying grounded.

BREITLING UPDATE, 29 OCT

Breitling: [Referencing Guru TD's controversial post from 10-28-2014] ...So why is someone questioning if they are reducing the notes out of the marketplace?  Bull crap they've been doing that for 2 years. There is no reason to pull dinar from the marketplace unless they were going to add value.
They were saying what they were going to do and here we are. It was an innocent mistake…I'm not going to beat anybody up. The CBI is telling the whole world what's happening…2 years of evidence…They are getting down to 1 billion notes. What they told everybody…they are going to have the currencies coexist for 3 years. I do know this…people laughed at the ISX…people who did it correctly made fortunes. Since I've got in the dinar…26%.

S3A CHAT UPDATED, 29 OCT

Pole R. Bear October 29, 2014 at 5:02pm   JC @JCR3758 4:55 pm Est.

The rollout is still active and on track. Adjustments have been made to compensate for processing time. No holdups.

They expect a smooth public exchange. Procedures have been signed off & it's imminent now. Protect your currency.

RSR > Pole R. Bear October 29, 2014 at 5:22pm @JCR3758: @redalert1078 Before the weekend ;)

OMEGA MAN very good source says admiral goes in today/tonight...

R.V. / GCR countdown kids…….TO TIMBER
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Mr. Chen:   Party Rock Anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KQ6zr6kCPj8#t=0

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Jeremiah Jens
 When and why aren't we able to cash out? This is getting very frustrating!!!

Ron Burgundy
 > Jeremiah Jens  IMO. Waiting on the TRN release. That is what the wait has ALWAYS been. It has nothing to do with Iraq.

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Don A
 The entire Fincen Form 104 - http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/fin104_ctr.pdf

Jean D October 29, 2014 at 7:38pm Thanks RV/GCR; will be need to complete a FINCEN Form ?

R.V. / GCR
 > Jean D. your exchange should have everything you need just bring your pretty little self and prepare to change the world take two forms of IDENTIFICATION

Jean D. Don - this is the first time I've seen the fincen form in a LONG time; I thought it had gone away.

I've heard bad words to never say

are "investment" and "cash out".

RV/GCR, could you please verify info about the fincen form?

R.V. / GCR > Jean Dixon October 29, 2014 at 7:36pm this is a CURRENCY EXCHANGE....................period

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WEDNESDAY INTEL UPDATE   Posted by EXOGEN on October 29, 2014

Guesses to Exogens Evening Picture Intel/Clues:

nana7   Dinar is $3.58 confirmed

Lonewolf > EXOGEN Public/Private Rates Europe's dinar rate is $3.58 Confirmed Studying various FinCen filing forms reading between the lines

EXOGEN  
  http://www.fincen.gov/forms/bsa_forms/

jumping4joy it is my understanding that this is what the bank has to fill out for any amounts over 10,000.00……..this is how they are stopping the money laundering from occurring

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G T October 29, 2014 at 9:31pm Last Clues From EXO (About an Hour Ago).....

$3.58/Dinar is Confirmed (Int'l Rate)

Pay Attention to The FINCHEN FORMS (Make sure the CORRECT BOXES ARE CHECK.....READ BEFORE SIGNING)!!! Your at the Bank for A CURRENCY EXCHANGE!!!
Ask Questions if you DON'T UNDERSTAND....

watch FOR ALL TRICKS & DETOURS The Banks have SETUP FOR US!

Make sure you UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN a MuLTI CURRENCY ACOOUNT & A MuLTIPLE CURRENCY ACCOUNT!!!

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EXOGEN
 October 29, 2014 at 8:35pm

A. MULTIPLE CURRENCY ACCOUNTS

B. MULTI CURRENCY ACCOUNTS

Lonewolf > Understand the difference between Multiple currency acc'ts and MULTI currency acc'ts

Susan A. S.
 > EXOGEN

A. Seperate acct. for each currency, and fees for EACH.

B. ONE ACCOUNT, ONE FEE, and can 'hold' up to 'FIVE' different currencies.

Linda > Exogen has previously said "MCA's will be your best friend".  If you can exchange directly into one of these accounts and bypass the dollar you may avoid major taxes (opinion only)

Bold n Courageous
 Nova did a beautiful job of explaining a "taxable event" on yesterdays call with Frank26.  Nova is a wealth manager who doesn't work for a bank, but for his clients.  If you put your IQD into a US bank it will automatically change in into USD which makes it a taxable event.  If my understanding is correct you can place your IQD into a foreign account... it remains IQD.  After which you can transfer you IQD into a Multiple currency account  KEEPING IT IQD.   At no time exchanging your IQD into USD, but getting a loan against it.  I'm wondering if when you pay on your loan it remains IQD as payment or is exchanged into USD making a a taxable event at that time?

PHANTOM1 POST FROM TNT, 29 OCT

Phantom1:friend of mine in Carolina said that his banker friend from wells forgo said the rate are on there screens in north and south Carolina but not in Georgia or Florida we are getting close fam woooooo hooooooo come on RV 

this was sent just this moment !!!

JCR3758 TWEET UPDATE, 29 OCT

JC ‏@JCR3758 5m5 minutes ago

I should have additional information that I can share openly later today. Know that all is well and in motion. Be blessed.

The rollout is still active and on track. Adjustments have been made to compensate for processing time. No holdups.


They expect a smooth public exchange. Procedures have been signed off & it's imminent now. Protect your currency.

IKO WARD TIDBIT, 29 OCT

Iko Ward :  So, using Forèx as an indicator, nothing has changed since 8AM this morning on dong or dinar. Both are flat, both still saying to me the market is waiting for more information before they trade. In light of all the other Intel this is simply another piece saying yes, it's about to go.

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 29 OCT

Stage3alpha:

OMEGA MAN October 29, 2014 at 1:05pm a friend of mine with bonds told me that some are exchanging now with a Tier 3 Platform in Zurich and getting British pounds...and heard yesterday that there were privates exchanging in HK, so we must be close...

R.V. / GCR October 29, 2014 at 12:21pm Today is the middle of the window........middle being silent to both ends enjoy today more than yesterday and less than tomorrow................................Happy Timber Days.......it's coming.

Springs October 29, 2014 at 3:24pm Fed ends bond buying. The dollar index is $86.02 since the announcement one hour ago. It was $85.40. Stock market down to 16929.26. Everything is moving forward.
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Don Allen
 October 29, 2014 at 3:31pm ALL TEAMS.......UST JUST ANNOUNCED USA WILL STOP BUYING USA BONDS. EXCUSE GIVEN....... USA ECONOMY HAS IMPROVED. NO....... IQD IS ABOUT TO SPEAR HEAD MANY WORLD ECONOMIES. GO. F26.

EXOGEN > Don Allen October 29, 2014 at 3:42pm This is all tied to USA elections. Typically when a QE ends the market should or would TANK. A tanking market prior to elections would not look good for Democrats. So why would they allow an announcement like this to take place prior to ELECTIONS?

R.V. / GCR
 October 29, 2014 Tomorrow America must go to Basel 3.........According to Who ever I copied that off of.....Timber

Happiness >
 R.V. / GCR  Cool  - so that is why they announced no more QE.    I dont think they CAN just keep printing money at will. Can they? and be Basel 3 .

R.V. / GCR > Happiness TODAY IS THE END DATE FOR PRINTING fiat DOLLARS.

SUNNY POST FROM TNT: TONY CC CLIFF NOTES, 29 OCT

Tony:  “Pass this on too as many peeps as you can:  Some groups saying they now have authorization to exchange your dinar/dong.  Asking for $30 to set it up for you.  Makes me sick doing this when we are this close. It’s absolutely ridiculous. . . using pretense to exchange your dinar, your dong and charge you $30, that’s wrong. Absolutely wrong!

Tony: "Someone asked me for rates of those 4 currencies and they don't want us to talk about rates and date. All four of them are good. Not anything you dreamed of 3-4 years ago.  Some people heard that only 2 currencies are coming out, I've heard that 5 are, but they may do it 3 or 10 days apart or all on the same day -- common sense says they would do it all on the same day so you can't go buy more."

Caller: "On the second basket do we have a time frame?  Tony: January. . . At least 9 countries supposed to be in 2nd basket."

  • Parliament:  Emergency meetings last 2 days, passing laws USA wanted.  Working till early morning hours. Three confirmations this works was done.  Could have had RV without these laws being passed.
  • 2015 budget not completed.  Budget needs military expenses added to it. 
  • Delay:  Iraq asked for an extension in order to complete issues as mentioned above in meetings.
  • ISIS:  Coalition forces have had more successes.  ISIS is handing out $100 bills, goats, food, etc.
  • Rates:  Dong, Rupiah and ZIM have rates. 
  • Contract Rates:  there is a pool of money allocated for the contract rate.  Limits/caps are in place to keep any one or several people from depleting the pool.  People within the TNT circle - call listeners, etc. T- "will more than likely participate."
  • $3.58 IQD rate is NOW world wide once again.  US has dropped the $1.00 rate.  Iraq had written contracts at $1.18 rate and those have to be re-written.  (this is beginning to sound like a Saturday night live skit or "Keystone Kops.")
  • Stand-by Alert Status: UST, IMF, Homeland Security, law enforcement, intel agencies, even congressional contacts.
  • Banks doing Test Runs with real live peeps. A TNT member was contacted.  Search for thread in TNT Forum to read about it. ready but tired of being jerked around.  They have lost money on overtime, disgusted employees, etc. 
  • NDA:  4 pages.  DC is comfortable with it.
  • Iraq Citizen frustrated with the announcements; it's imminent, etc. They are taking chance of them losing confidence in the new GOI.  ISIS is handing out $100 bills, goats, food, etc.
  • Taxes:   Remember to use the word, "EXCHANGE." Attorney on call said, if they ask you if you want to do a cash out, to stop them in their tracks and say, "No, I want to do an exchange." Implication on the call was as an exchange there is no tax on International rate.  Tony mentioned an 11% rate on contract rate.  Later DC said, "bottom line we just don't know.  Don't think we'll find out the tax till month or two down the road" 
  • Exchange:  20 minute appt's.  DC advised only sign NDA if you know you can "keep your mouth shut."  Meet with wealth advisor and negotiate perks at another appt't.  Expect to get the TNT influenced circle exchanged within 72 hours. There is a Time Limit on contract rates.
  • Final Call/Package:  T & DC still don't know this information.  T - "They won't tell me till it's time."
  • Strategy:    If it comes out at $1.00 or low rate, remember the IQD is the foundation currency for the GCR; Kuwait is at $3.58 and hedge funds will jump in and push the value higher.

CLOSING STATEMENTS:   
DC :   bottom line everyone keyed up in Iraq.  Special laws passed to get it done. Strongly believe everyone in lock down and black out for a reason.  All . . . ready to help and assist.  Look forward to meeting them all very soon. 

Pam:  from DAZ:  One thing is for sure, however it happens. . . we are smack dab in the middle of it and will witness it first hand. . . amazing gift. 

Ray:  enjoy the day.  Short on words 

Tony:  - (call dropped at first of his statement)  We are there.  Too much activity taking place in last 48 hours to ignore . . . told people this is their final briefing.  Rescheduled people to be back on three shifts.  . . .rate went back to over $3.  Don’t know what it will come out at .  . . . all rates look good.  I would consider everyone of them superfantastic rates. Hope this is our last call.. .  
Be careful.  Be even more careful after you exchange. . . .Can invest it in more solid things in the future.  Beware!  We will be here as long as we can.
 Did you hear the one about the two Cajuns sitting on their front porch when a truck drives by loaded with sod.
 Boudreaux says to Thibodeaux, "Now that's what I'm going to do when my Deeeeeenar comes in."   
 Thibodeaux, "What's that Boudreaux?" 
 Boudreaux, "Send my lawn out to be mowed."

TNT CC NOTES , 29 OCT

10-29-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):
Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=61742613
Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Wednesday, October 279, 2014.  Here we are!  I didn’t expect to be here, to tell the truth, based on what we know.  Pam can’t talk, so we can get through this quickly.  We have DC for 30 minutes – why are we here, and when are we going to see what we thought we would see?

DC:  East to west,  Iraq is very ready with great results from their business conferences and the resulting contracts, which are huge.  In parliament they had an emergency session to finalize the last laws the US wanted at the last minute.  Everything is done, although the US is really nitpicking.  Anyway, they passed them all last night.

Tony:  Over the weekend, Iraq did ask for an extension to pass some laws they thought they needed.

DC: Everything has been done.  They could have done the RV before then, but these are nice add-ons, not ‘must haves’.  It could have gone many times before then.  Iraq is extremely ready to get this done, with more frustration by everyday citizens about why it isn’t done because it’s making life difficult while battling insurgents.  The 2015 Budget is still not 100% done, but we’re not waiting on that either.  The coalition had a few more good wins over the last few days…

Most of the world had a rate of $3.58 while the US had $1.18, and now we understand that has been changed back to $3.58 last night. They were using it as a negotiation, as suspected.  It confuses me that they actually wrote contracts at $1.18 in the last day or so. Those can be changed, by why do it at all?

Tony:  Two weeks ago, the contracts were at $3.58, and then in the last week, they changed them to $1.18 because the US refused to change and they wanted to get it moving again.  Now they have changed them back – so what was all that for?

DC:  We think it was just part of the game.  However, it is just possible that it could come out at $1.18, so have a plan for that, too, just in case.  That’s about it for Iraq.

Tony:  Yes, on the television, it still keeps scrolling that “all issues will be addressed”, but the contracts have been changed and they are ready to go now.

DC: They met until 2-3 in the morning last night and they are still at it, wrapping up any nice-to-have laws and details.  In the US, everybody and their mother is on blackout in the UST, IMF, law enforcement, in Congressional advisory positions, all the rest – everyone is in a high, intense level of readiness.  They are not doing that for fun or because this is weeks off.  The banks are on super-standby apart from a few who are as exhausted and frustrated as we are.  They have lost so much money on overtime, they don’t care any more.  They don’t’ want to be called until they see it on their screens, and even THEY are on standby or doing last-minute meetings and brush-up training sessions.  They are ready to get this through.

Tony:  They are training, they have the schedule for this week, they were told it was supposed to be last night.  Some banks were calling people in to walk them through the actual process. Someone’s brother got called in and he named the bank on the forum.  Many banks are doing this, taking 10-015 people through the process. They actually thought it would be Thursday, and everyone was ready for it to go then.  It’s my belief it would go at the weekend and that was the plan last week. This week – who knows?

DC:  We understand there have been more changes in the rollout procedures in the US, so be prepared for the shotgun approach OR the slow rollout where they bring in groups (like us) to handle the crowds better and for fewer headaches.  We believe they are still on that slow rollout plan at the moment.  The contract rates are still there, and at least we will have a fighting change at those like everyone else.

Tony:  On the slow rollout, you will hear about that, and that is a real possibility.  When you go to the forum and the guy said his mind went into a haze – that’s what many of us will have that same moment of panic.  Write down your questions, and you will know where you have to go and what you have to ask, because when you get the call, your mind will go crazy!  So prepare yourself now…

They have asked me to ask some of the forum questions:

Q:  Six weeks ago the US gave control to Iraq under Plan A. Supposedly if this didn’t go nicely, Plan B would go into effect.  What happened?

DC: Two months ago the US signed that, and they have been supportive the entire time since.  They were nitpicking every detail and that slowed down the process.  They wanted to make sure it was good and solid.  Now, the dollar:dollar deal – that was not in the agreement.  The US did do what they said they would, but they also tried to block some things that no one expected, and that has caused frustration, anxiety and anger around the world including amongst our closest friends and allies.  They are livid and feel it was all very underhanded, that the US waited to screw us over at the end.  It’s put everyone on notice that if there is anything that might still throw a kink in this, they had better bring it up now, not later.

Tony:   There was a Plan A procedure, and Plan B was so complicated that basically the US called their bluff, saying “Is that what you really want to do?”

Q: What’s the latest you’ve heard about NDAs and bank contracts?  Can we have rates, please?

DC:  Our understanding is that on the international rate ($3.58, which it is back to), there will be no NDA – it will work like a normal currency exchange, like when you come back from Mexico and want to change it back into dollars.  They have a screen or book that they will check to make sure the bills are genuine.  They seal it and send it to a counter, and give you the credit the next morning if it’s all legit. It’s simple, normal and anti-climatic.  For contract rates, you call the 800 numbers and they will direct you to several different banks.  Whether you will get the contract rates depends on how much is still in the pool and they are trying to limit that so everyone gets a fair shake at the pool.  Those not paying attention will probably not get the contract rates, but we have a good shot at getting them.  You will call the 800 number, go to your appointment, and there will be a marshal as well as a banking person in the room. They will count the currency, run it through a delarue machine if they have one, and credit your account.  If they don’t have a machine, they write up a receipt, send your money off, and credit you the next day.

The regular DNA is only four pages now, and it basically says “Do not talk about the dinar or contract rates, or else we will freeze your accounts.”  If you cannot keep a secret, don’t sign the NDA!  That is a legal agreement they will hold everyone to, and law enforcement has been taking the entire accounts of those breaking their NDAs.  The second meeting will be with a wealth adviser who will walk you through what the bank can offer you.

DC:  The dong, rupiah and zim still have rates attached, but I’m nto supposed to say what baskets they are in.  IF you have them, great!  If not, that is your choice.

Q:  How can there be a contract rate if the rate is one dollar?

Tony:  One doesn’t affect the other because the contract is a PRIVATE contract for those who have the opportunity to get it.

Q:  When you consider is controlling the final release, are you as concerned as when you created the Twitter campaign?

Tony:  No, because we are being told what the rate is, that there are contract rates and that it does include us.  We know this is going to happen, that everyone is preparing for it to happen with some agonizing about why it didn’t happen.  So I don’t have that level of concern about it happening.

Q:  Will we be at the bank this week?  Next week is November… it’s been two years!

Tony:  I never thought we’d get to this week because I know we were supposed to be in the banks last Thursday!  The banks had people in, and Iraq told their people this is it – last week!  I still think the weekend makes sense, but they could do anything at this point.  Everyone is gearing up for now, but they could drag it out for another week, I don’t know.  If  you’ve only been in this for two years, you’re doing well.

302 caller:  Okay, so we’re almost there and we’ve missed it again, and I’ve been told by someone that PM Abadi got a huge loan from Kuwait…

Tony:  I heard they got a loan from China until this process is completed.  They are never going to have to worry about money anyway;  they won’t let Iraq go bankrupt when it depends on the dinar going to RV.

Caller:  How long can they keep this going until someone pulls the final trigger?

Tony:  I can’t answer that until Iraq says “enough is enough” and our allies do the same:  that they tell the US that there are others out there being affected.  It’s all negotiation.  They are telling people they are doing it at this time and they were negotiating in the background, and you have to get all you can get because this may be the only time they can do it… on a global scale.  It’s not about us.  If it were about us, then we would have reason to be upset, but as it is not, all we can do is to tell them to get on with it!  They can continue until people here in the US say “enough is enough”, that they have done all they can for the economy and the country, and now everyone IS saying that.  They have fixed all they can right now, and LET’S GO!  Supposedly that’s what they’re saying this week.

I am looking for it right now because of the level of preparations and lockdown in the last 48 hours – more than we have seen in months.  Everyone is super-excited that this time it may actually happen.  There is nothing more to do relating to dinar, the RV or the people;  all of that has been accomplished. It’s some outside deal that is stopping it – it’s being held hostage.

Caller:  How comfortable do you feel that this brother in the training is for real?

Tony:  I know the guy personally, he called me from there, and we went through the steps – which absolutely match the steps we already know about.

208:  Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas because we won’t be able to say that later!  Do we have a time limit on how long we have to exchange our currency?

Tony:  I think there is a time limit on the contract rates, and also on watching the value of the market rate, but after that it will just be a common rate. After that first thirty days, they are concerned about stability, that’s all.

Caller:  If we are NOT taking the contract rate, perhaps we should delay going to the bank?

Tony:  I’ll tell you what I would do.  If the dinar came out at a dollar, I wouldn’t’ exchange at that rate because we know it will be near the surrounding countries.  The hedge funds would rush in and push up the rate very quickly.  It doesn’t make sense.

Caller:  The people who got the SKRs and such, is it possible to exchange directly into another foreign currency?

Tony:  I don’t see why not.  Call the currency dealers and ask them directly.

Caller;  We keep hearing about the symbols changing;  will you be able to let us know which are the real symbols in the package?

Tony:  I don’t know what is in the package, and they are clearly not going to tell us until the time comes!  But they will exchange at whatever the rate is for that currency, no matter what the symbol turns out to be.

I went to the mailbox and it was full of letters from you all – responses from your congress people and your personal stories.  I’m trying to get it set up so that we can add your stories to the book.  I love the ones that say ‘thank you’ and especially the lady who sent the hand-drawn pictures of Jesus.  I appreciate everything you all have done, and I do love the cigars!  I couldn’t believe some of the comments and stories and who they were from, and I know they affected people’s lives.  I have read every one of your personal letters.  Out of all these letters, exactly ONE Senator said it was not a scam.

423 caller:  This is Chris on the board.  With the procedures…

Tony:  Hold on, let me go back over that.  Remember, different banks may do different things.  The guy who went over the process, they explained that he would meet certain people, they would count his dinar and said that when he left the bank, he would have money in hand to spend.  Often, they do send the money off and credit your account overnight, but in the case of this person, that bank credits your account immediately.

Caller;  I will be in Texas all this week.

Tony:  When you call, they ask for the zip code where you want to exchange, they give you the nearest exchange center, and off you go!

Caller:  [Appreciation]  I donate when I can and I’m saving up for Pam’s bus!

Part 2
832 caller:  Those test cases, how did they pick those people?

Tony:  We didn’t have anything to do with it!  They were people who went in and talked to bankers, and gave the manager their number, and when the banker finally got involved, the manager remembered and gave that person a call to walk them through and make sure they got the kinks worked out.  I don’t know their criteria.

Caller:  Does the NDA have different terms for different contract rates?

Tony:  They do have different terms for different rates.  For the basic NDA, I believe that is for five years.  Mine is supposedly for 15 years, I don’t know why!

Caller:  there was a recent post that investments in Iraqi dinar will not be taxed…

Tony: What I have been told so far – and don’t hold me to this – if you go in and say the right words you won’t be taxed, and if you say the wrong words you will be taxed.

Caller:  So if you say ‘exchange’ you will not be taxed, and otherwise you might?

Tony: That’s about right.

Caller:  Some got their funds a year ago, so is fairness in taxation covered in the NDA as well?  You said that the key point is access to the contract rate.  You say you will know that if we are having access to the contract rates, and if not, then you will not hold yourself bound by the NDA.  Is the same true of the tax situation?

Tony:  For the international rates, you will not be taxed if you say the right things.  I have heard that there may be a flat 11% on the contract rates.  Were they taxed a year ago?  I don’t know.  I am hoping they will do that in all fairness. There are enough people involved in the process behind the scenes, who helped us with #wearethepeople, and I’m counting on them letting us know.

404 caller [yet again]:  Should we pay attention to 1. November when the rates change on the UN site?

Tony:  I’m looking for a phone call with the 800 number, nothing else.

Caller:  I heard next Tuesday is a holiday in Iraq – is that significant?

Tony:  I got word of that but have not confirmed it.  Of course, it’s Election Day here.

Caller:  If all those agencies are in lockdown, how long will that last?

Tony: As soon as the RV happens, they will be released to do what they do.  Pam is telling me that the holiday is Monday the 3rd (in Iraq).  We vote on Tuesday.

352 caller:  Can you explain in more detail what you call the slow rollout for us?

Tony:  As I understand it, and we’re just saying this because it’s already out there, the slow rollout means getting the groups paid out, both formal groups and dinarians on the internet.  They want to do that in the first 72 hours, and THEN exchange the others who have a little currency but who haven’t been paying attention. That was always the plan, to get 250,000 people through in the first 72 hours.

252 caller:  Will the China rate be available to us in that slow rollout?

Tony:  Yes, I understand it will be available for everyday citizens until it runs out.

601 caller:  when you exchange your dinar into a separate account, how long do you have to leave it by itself for the government to track it?

Tony:  I don’t know.  I just told you what we were advised by someone at the UST.  It’s a taxation issue.  You don’t want all your eggs in one basket anyway – I certainly have more than one account right now.  I would think it would be just for the exchange so you know what you’re being taxed on, but not forever.

Caller:  I know about the NDA and I’m not worried about that.  However, DC said something about the contract being so long it would take a lawyer an hour to read it. What could be in a contract that long that we should be aware of?

Tony:  I don’t know.  Supposedly it’s only four pages long.  A while back I saw the NDA;  DC has reviewed the NDA and says it’s pretty simple and straightforward.  I think it would be smart to give us a copy beforehand so we can review it with you.  I don’t think they want it complicated because they want to get you through in twenty minutes!

Caller:  It’s the contract I’m worried about, for the contract rates.

Tony:  Oh.  I don’t know.  It may depend on how much you have.  If you have enough currency and you think it’s a big deal, take your attorney with you!

Caller:  [restated the question for the third time]

Tony: They may take 20 minutes for you to exchange;  setting up your further accounts and contracts could be a second appointment at another location.  I don’t know.

817 caller:  A week from today, will we be going about our lives better?

Tony:  You need to be ready and prepared to do THE call.  I’ve been prepared for months!  The banks and such are more prepared than they have been for months, and I’m ready to go, but I’m not going to stand by the door with my suitcase in my hand.

Caller:  Do you think the negotiations are finished, that the negotiators are ready for this to go further?

Tony:  I think they’ve finished.  The banks must believe it, or they wouldn’t be bringing all these people into the banks and walking them through the process.  Banks that haven’t been engaged for months have been bringing their people back in.

Caller:  I see Pam posting on the forum, but I’m disappointed she hasn’t put up a picture of her bus!

908 caller:  I’m calling from Chapel Hill.  Did you say that the zim and the rupiah…

Tony:  Someone asked for the rates of the four currencies, and I said that they don’t want us to talk about dates and rates, but all four of them have great rates, much better than you could have dreamed a few years ago.  Some said they heard only two will be released, but I get the feeling they will all be released at the same time, because if they are released in a few days apart, we rich dinarians will get even richer.  I think the second basket will come out some time after January, and within six months.

248 caller:  [Appreciation]  You mentioned that this fourth quarter would be a great time for the GCR because it would mask any devaluation of the dollar.

Tony:  I do think it is a perfect time because people spend money for the holidays, WE will spend money and they can pretend it’s all the economy.  Also, in Iraq they told everyone they would have the new rate for the 1. October, and they have gone 30 days past that. It’s not their fault, of course – it’s been the US mainly that has held this up so long.  We’re really good at that Statue of Liberty play…

Caller:  What’s another industry beside 3-D printing that are good to look at?

Tony:  I like 3-D printing, but financial services is one, energy sources, and the growth of third-world countries.  You can get in on the ground floor and not have to spend much to get great returns.  Google  “Blacks without Border”, and see how people are becoming millionaires by going over there and building cities and companies where there is little or no competition.  I know a guy who is a multi-millionaire from starting a cable company over there.  An everyday person can do it!

Caller:  About the next basket of currencies – will any of those be in North America or South America?

Tony: At least nine countries are supposed to be in that second basket.

Caller:  Every time we ask this kind of question, they put up a steel fence around those currencies, once we give them ideas.  That’s why I’m being cryptic.

Tony:  That’s why they monitor the calls!  They use our own ideas against us.

703 caller:  I finally got on the call!  My name is Sophia… I bought the dinar and forgot until January of this year.  [Appreciation]  Do you really think we are there now?

Tony:  That is not what it says on the board.  Yes, the amount of preparation that’s gone on in the last 48 hours shows that something big is going on.  I do favor the weekends, that makes the sense to me, but who knows?  I think it’s detrimental to Iraq and the psychology of their people with all these announcements when they tell them every day that this is happening. The people are getting frustrated, and they might lose confidence in their brand new government. They’re not giving them what they promised, while ISIL is giving them hundred dollar bills, food and goats.  They are playing with fire!

Caller:  I’m so ready for this, and can’t even imagine what’s like for those who have had it for so long.  Do we have to have an account already open, before the exchange?

Tony:  I think they would prefer for you to have one open beforehand, but for this amount of money, they will open 3-4 accounts if you need them!  They will do the exchange and if necessary have you come in for another appointment.  If you know which bank you want to use, just go open an account with $50, then withdraw the $50 and leave the account open and ready.  But they will do it at your appointment if necessary, because they don’t want you to leave their bank with all that money.

Caller: What about taxes?

DC:  Prepare to pay taxes on capital gains or unearned income, at federal and state levels. We understand that some are pushing for a ‘no tax’ situation, but we just don’t know.  I think it is quite likely we won’t find out the tax situation for a month or two down the road. I’m not a tax professional, advisor or attorney, but if they give us the opportunity to pay 20% up front, I’ll still set the remainder aside until 15. April, because I’m not convinced the right hand knows what the left hand is doing.  This is a lot of money and the government might well try to go after it.

Tony:  If you open a bank account for the dinar or dong, they will not let you have a bank account specifically for that.  You’re just opening an account for your own purposes. Also, don’t pay tax upfront – I’ll keep my money in an interest-bearing account until the last minute I have to hand over my taxes.

DC:  Be conservative with it, because you will have to pay that money.

Caller:  Could this possibly come out in the middle of the night?

DC:  Many believe it will come out 2-5am.  Another large contingent of bankers prefers middle of the day.  They have nearly done it many, many times – in both timeframes.  They’ve nearly done when the East Coast banks open, when the West Coast banks open, or when the West Coast banks close.  So just keep an eye on the phone!

703 caller:  So if it is released at 2am, when will you talk to us? [already been answered!]

DC:  The two most probable scenarios run like this.  If they release the RV in the middle of the night, Tony and I will be woken up because they’ll be so excited.  They intend to let it populate through the system, and then call up a few folks to do a final phone call. We would immediately send out a tweet with the 800 numbers and the time of the final call.  If they don’t want the 800 number going out to 250K people, they may have us say it on the call.  I believe they are back to the more controlled deal where they give out the 800 numbers to 20K on the call first.  If it happens during the day, the same thing will happen only more quickly.  They would like people to go through the exchange centers for the first week or so, but if you only want the international rates, you can go directly to the banks.

Caller:  So one scenario is that they give you guys the 800 numbers, and you send it out with a tweet and we can set up our appointments, OR Tony will only give out the 800 number ON that final call.  So if I make my appointment right away, I could possible be at the bank before Tony’s call!  My suitcase is ready at the door, but I wanted to get it clear in my head beforehand.  Thank you.

Tony:  My plan was to get the 800 numbers, tweet it out, tell you exactly when we would have a call, tell you’re the rates and the procedures.  They have their own plan, and now that we have been asked to be part of the process, I don’t know what the plan is!  I don’t know what they want us to do, whether it’s 15 minutes, an hour, seven days or 14 days.  We want to help make the entire process smooth and easier, and we just don’t know!

405 caller:  Will there be an exchange center in Oklahoma City?  My father lives four hours away – do I make my own call first, or get there to help him walk through it?

DC:  Yes, OKC has a number of dinar holders.  They want each person to make a separate appointment, so you’ll have to work out what could work for him.

Caller:  In your heart of hearts…

DC:  I think they have backed themselves into a tight corner here, and I don’t see them being able to stretch this out any further at all.

936 caller:  There is a financial forum about the currency exchange and the NDA… they have been using the term ‘investment’.  If the banks are going to trip us up, and they ask if they ask “Do you want to do a cash out?”, we have to stop them as say we are there to do a currency exchange.  And what about the two different forms?

Tony:  For years, I’ve had bankers telling me to tell you to be careful, that people will try to trick or mislead you.  You need to look out for you!  In the last two weeks, it has been re-iterated to me that you must be vigilant.  They have a process to redirect you if you mess up, but they are just following the rules.  If you say the wrong things, they have to react to what you say, not what you intended to say.

Caller:  Do you really think it will come before this weekend?

DC:  I think everyone is cued up for this to go before the weekend, but I get nervous about giving exact times.  However, it doesn’t make sense to me that people have been called in and then this doesn’t happen for five or six days.

Caller:  I have only (say) two million dinar, and someone else has 20 million, and another person has one 24K dinar note – do we have equal access to the contract rate?

Tony:  I don’t know the criteria for the contract rate.  If there is a limit, DC will say!

DC:  They are trying to allow as many people as possible to have some of the contract rate, so they are saying you can have up to X million dinar at contract rates and the rest at street rates. They have been respectful of allowing those would don’t have as much to get more buck for their dinar.

Caller:  I hope this is the last call – I’m ready to go quail hunting on Friday if we can.  DC, once this hits, you have my number, and you can come with me!

DC:  Everyone is cued up throughout Iraq, with special laws all passed. They are all ready for this to go through. We strongly believe that everyone is on lockdown and blackout because they are ready to – bankers, law enforcement, security and all the rest.

Pam:  Daz said, “One thing is for sure, whatever happens or how it happens, we are smack dab in the middle of it, with prior knowledge, and that is an experience in itself.”

Tony:  These people in lockdown are not used to be restricted, and they won’t put up with it for too long. The weekend makes sense to me, but I would love for it to happen this afternoon. They are ready, with final briefings;  they are back on three shifts after months away, and banks that have stopped being part of this have re-engaged in the process. The rate has gone back to $3+, though we don’t’ know for sure where that will come out.  All the rates look good that we are aware of; all of them are superfantastic for what’s about to happen.

“There is a some group going around saying they have authorization to exchange your dinar for a starting fee of $30.”  This makes me sick that we are this close and people are still doing this nonsense.  If anyone does this, they deserve what they get, which is probably nothing.  If they were just running a site about dinar and future investments and you want to pay $30 per month for that, that’s fine.  But when they say they will exchange your dinar for you, that is absolutely wrong.  The bank and any dealer is going to charge you a percentage for your exchange, because that is how they make their money.  I hate it that someone it trying to abuse you this close to the exchange.

Please enjoy your day.  Be careful until it’s time for you to exchange, and more careful after your exchange about these people who are lying in wait to take your money rather than just buying their own.  We’ll be here, doing our job.  Thank you!  And send those response letters from your Congressmen, and thanks to those who have done so!. 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 29 OCT

10-29-2014   Newshound Guru Enorrste  Article:  "A member of the parliamentary Balaguetsadah: the project to delete the zeros is ready and needs to be applied five years"  One article clearly states that they will start the process at the "beginning of 2015."  In my view this means that they will begin the float then, and move to article 8 of the IMF.  I also personally believe that the currency will rise in value much faster than many people assume, including the CBI, which is giving itself a huge "window" of five years.  I see the currency rising consistently until it reaches parity, which could well be over $3, within a year or two at most.

10-29-2014   Newshound Guru Adam Montana
   Here's the latest:   1. ISIS still not successful in taking Kobane.   Between the additional ground forces and the continued air strikes against ISIS in Kobane, I don't expect the terrorists to hold out too much longer.  2. Budget - The budget is still stalled, but if you've paid attention to the news over the last week you probably noticed that a LOT is being brought up about the HCL...in fact, it looks like the two are tied together. Meaning when we see the budget passed, it's possible that the HCL will move simultaneously, and that could be the best possible thing in the world for this venture!  *fingers crossed*.  3. GOI - I'm still feeling positive about the new GOI. Abadi is moving things in the right direction, we're hearing less and less about Maliki (just like I figured would  happen ), and back to the budget/HCL - things are lining up perfectly.

10-29-2014 Newshound Guru Breitling
  
There are a lot of articles coming out about 2015 and raising the value and a statement someone made. "Deletion of he zeros…Iraq is the latest Arab country to decide to delete the zeros from its currency."  [Referencing Intel Guru TD's controversial post from 10-28-2014… NO DISPUTE ANY LONGER WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL BE A LOP!  IT WILL!]  They have been raising the value of the currency…but it has not been a big jump.  For some people the value has gone up 26, 27 28%.  In 2013 they started reducing the US dollar within Iraq.  They used the dollar to keep the dinar artificially down.  They told everybody this that they are keeping it artificially down.  Looking forward…an article came out saying 90% of economy oil and 30% US dollars…they had to get rid of this first and then reduce the dinar count.  October 2013 they said they were going from 9 billion notes to 6 billion notes.  2014 said they were going to go from 6 billion to 4 billion.  2014 summer accomplished 6 billion to 4 billion notes...   [post 1 of 2...Stay tuned for the rest of the lop debate]

10-29-2014   Newshound Guru Mike
  it is common every 10 years or so for new bills to be printed in an economy and that it is VERY IMPORTANT for the people...to have confidence in their currency.   the BUDGET needs to be passed next, be done and put into place so that the banks can loan out money and pass projects (get them going) etc...   the C.B.I. needs to add PURCHASING POWER at some point and that the ZEROES Project is a project that is going to happen in different steps...one being adding more value.  Things need to be in place before they can add value to the dinar because there are alot of moving parts. Laws need to be passed and the economy moving...it's a process.

10-29-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
    Article:  "Parliamentary committee calls for the central bank to implement deletion of zeros early next year  the exchange rate of the dinar is not going to effect the financial investor on whether or not he should invest...what will is laws and a free market economy!  More importantly "freedom of movement of capital" at any exchange rate so profits may be take out of the country in the currency of origin.  A countries exchange rate is determined in the foreign exchange market (Forex) based on a countries economic indicators and the Exchange Rate regime chosen by the CBI.  If the dinar is undervalued as so many say, it should rise to some level fairly quickly...then stabilize and continue to appreciate based on capital investment, growth, gdp, oil exports, etc.

10-29-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
  Article quote:  "...Dr. Mahdi Keywords Director, Office of the Prime Minister the government's determination to implement the program, which received unanimous popular and parliamentary and official and international acceptance,"  THIS IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ACTION THEY ARE TAKING TO REFORM AND ENTER TO INTERNATIONAL ACCEPTANCE -- THE FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT IS TO IMPLEMENT THE ENTIRE GOV PROGRAMS AND ALSO ALL REFORMS... THEY ARE STATING THAT THE PRIVATIZATION OF THE COUNTRY IS BEING ACTIVATED FOR A MARKET ECONOMY.  THEY HAVE ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY APPROVED ALL GOV PROGRAMS FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS AS WELL -- AND THE MEETING WAS AN EMERGENCY FOR THE BUDGET FOR 2014 FOR THIS ACTIVATION.  THEY MADE A DECLARATION OF THE ECONOMIC PROGRAM AND ITS HUGE LEAP IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THEY ARE VERY EXCITED.

10-29-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   ...NO LOP PERIOD.   NUFF SAID.

10-29-2014   Newshound Gurus Bondlady & tlm724
   Article:   "Parliamentary committee calls for the central bank to implement deletion of zeros early next year"   Quotes:  "the parliamentary finance committee demanded, the Iraqi Central Bank to apply the project to delete the three zeroes from the currency early next year"  demanded!  "The present time appropriate for the application of the project, especially since Iraq has returned to the regional and international environment international level...international level is exactly what Iraq needs, be able to trade that currency and make money, sell long term bonds also as opposed to making money on the auctions, one should replace the other.  it was what had to happen for Iraq to raise its value, to be accepted through out the world as a trusted currency and with the new Iraqi government the world has gained a new appreciation for Iraq and its country...internationally traded and accepted, the beginning of what Shabibi said would happen years ago when Iraq got its crap together...well imo they are finally getting there.

FREEWAY BILL UPDATE, 29 OCT

PEOPLE BEWARE!!!! STAY AWAY FROM "DEALS" THAT COST YOU MONEY ~ FREEWAY BILL
PLAIN AND SIMPLE FOLKS.... NEW DEAL GOING AROUND PUT OUT BY A LONG TIME KNOWN GURU THAT AGAIN IS (ALLEGEDLY) ASKING YOU TO REACH IN YOUR POCKET FOR A "CHANCE" TO CASH IN WITH HIM AND HIS "PREAUTHORIZED" GROUP THAT MAY GO REAL SOON...
HE WANTS YOU TO PAY HIM TO BELONG TO THIS ELITE GROUP AND TURN OVER ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION TO HIM BY THE END OF THE MONTH OR YOU ARE OUT OF LUCK??? FOLKS, UNLESS SOMEONE HAS A SECURITIES LICENSE TO TRADE IN CURRENCY, THEY ARE NOT LEGIT! 

PLEASE DO AS I HAVE TOLD YOU SO MANY TIMES, CHILL OUT AND WAIT PATIENTLY.

NONE OF THESE CON GAMES ARE GOING TO BE PAID ANY QUICKER THAN YOU WILL BE FROM THE LEGIT WAY,  AND YOU DO STAND A CHANCE TO BE LINKED IN WITH SOME DEAL THAT MAY NOT GET CASHED OUT AT ALL....

 PLEASE HEED THIS WARNING!!!!

 GOD BLESS THE USA……. FREEWAY BILL

OMEGAMAN UPDATE, 29 OCT

OMEGAMAN: a friend of mine with bonds told me that some are exchanging now with a Tier 3 Platform in Zurich and getting British pounds...and heard yesterday that there were privates exchanging in HK, so we must be close...

JCR3758 , RV/GCR & WILBUR GRODAN TIDBITS, 29 OCT

@JCR3758: Heard great things last night and this AM and will share with you after I get additional confirmation today. No delays.

RV/GCR : Today is the middle of the window........middle being silent to both ends enjoy today more than yesterday and less than tomorrow................................Happy Timber Days.......it's coming.

WILBUR GRODAN: MARKET ACTION is consistent with FRIDAY
~ 0500Z

MILLIONDAY & BONDLADY & TLM724 TIDBIT, 29 OCT

10-29-14 Millionday: Article quote: "...Dr. Mahdi Keywords Director, Office of the Prime Minister the government's determination to implement the program, which received unanimous popular and parliamentary and official and international acceptance,THIS IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ACTION THEY ARE TAKING TO REFORM AND ENTER TO INTERNATIONAL ACCEPTANCE -- THE FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT IS TO IMPLEMENT THE ENTIRE GOV PROGRAMS AND ALSO ALL REFORMS... THEY ARE STATING THAT THE PRIVATIZATION OF THE COUNTRY IS BEING ACTIVATED FOR A MARKET ECONOMY.

THEY HAVE ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY APPROVED ALL GOV PROGRAMS FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS AS WELL -- AND THE MEETING WAS AN EMERGENCY FOR THE BUDGET FOR 2014 FOR THIS ACTIVATION.  THEY MADE A DECLARATION OF THE ECONOMIC PROGRAM AND ITS HUGE LEAP IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THEY ARE VERY EXCITED.

10-29-14 Bondlady & tlm724:
 Article: "Parliamentary committee calls for the central bank to implement deletion of zeros early next year"   Quotes:  "the parliamentary finance committee demanded, the Iraqi Central Bank to apply the project to delete the three zeroes from the currency early next yeardemanded! "The present time appropriate for the application of the project, especially since Iraq has returned to the regional and international environment international level...international level is exactly what Iraq needs, be able to trade that currency and make money, sell long term bonds also as opposed to making money on the auctions, one should replace the other.
It was what had to happen for Iraq to raise its value, to be accepted throughout the world as a trusted currency and with the new Iraqi government the world has gained a new appreciation for Iraq and its country...internationally traded and accepted, the beginning of what Shabibi said would happen years ago when Iraq got its crap together...well imo they are finally getting there.