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Wednesday, October 22, 2014

MILIONDAY TIDBITS, 23 OCT

10-22-14 Millionday: YESTERDAY THEY SIGNED NEW TRADE AGREEMENTS WITH FRANCE AND TWO OTHER NATIONS -- JAPAN -- SO THIS REQUIRES INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION.

CBI HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT MEETINGS WITH THE COMMISSION FOR THE LAST THREE DAYS ABOUT THE CURRENCY AND STATED THAT SOMETHING WOULD BE HAPPENING IN A COUPLE DAYS WITH EXCHANGES OF THE NEW BILLS OF SECURITY SO DOES THAT MEAN ALL? WE DON'T KNOW WE JUST KNOW THEY SAID THIS SERIES.

AFTER THE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM JAPAN ABOUT HUGE CONTRACTS THEY PRINTED THIS TODAY -- THIS IS OBVIOUSLY FOR A MARKET ECONOMY.

THEY HAVE TO BE INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED AND BE A MARKET ECONOMY TO HAVE ALL THESE IMPORT/EXPORT CONTRACTS AND THE TRADE BEGINNING THAT WE ARE SEEING POP UP ALL OVER.

OK NOW LET ME SAY --- IF A TRADE EXCHANGE BETWEEN TWO COUNTRIES CAN NOT BE DEFINED BY A SPECIFIC NUMBER -- IT IS  RUN BY SUPPLY AND DEMAND – IN OTHER WORDS TO BE DETERMINED -- THIS IS A MARKET ECONOMY.

INTERNATIONAL ACCEPTANCE NO DOUBT OR HOW WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? WOULD THEY NEED EXCHANGE RATES? -- YOU BETCHA.  WHOOPOW. WHO THEY ARE IS HUGE IN THE GLOBE -- KNOW THAT

POOFNESS POST: MID-WEEK REPORT, 23 OCT

POOFness for OCT 22: Mid-Week Report

HI ALL

I THANK THE ONES THAT HELP. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE SERVICE YOU DO. MANY ARE HELPED BECAUSE OF YOUR HELP, AND THE WORK GOES ON.

SEVERAL THINGS OF NOTE. (MANY CAN NOT BE SAID YET)

INTENSE MEETINGS IN WASHINGTON AND BEIJING AND ZURICH HAVE RESULTED IN SOME SIGNIFICANT RESULTS.

TODAY MARKS THE FIRST DAY THAT THE BOND REDEMPTIONS ARE COMING ALIVE. IT IS ALMOST OFFICIAL NOW.

THE DINAR IS TO BE ON THE INTERNATIONAL SCREENS AND FULLY USABLE AND EXCHANGEABLE BY OCTOBER 26.
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THE NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS JUST ABOUT READY TO BE REVEALED AND FUNCTIONAL, AND THE CHIEF PURPLE PIG HAS STATED “WE ARE READY TO THROW THE SWITCH”.

RUMORS OF GENERAL CARTER HAM REPLACING OBAMA ARE INTERESTING, BUT OBAMA REMAINS ON TV STILL. SO WHEN DOES HE ANNOUNCE THIS EVENT? THE SHADOW AIN’T SAYIN NUTHIN.

THE MAJOR ARRESTS SCHEDULED ARE STILL TO COME.

BANKSTERS HIDING MONEY AND MAKING IDIOTIC MISTAKES.

EVERY CABAL MEMBER LEFT IS STEALING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN THESE END DAYS. ALSO MAKING IDIOTIC MISTAKES. MANY DESTINED FOR THE V8 PRODUCTION PLANT.

THE OTHER RUMORS ABOUND, AND REALLY THE BLOGS ARE HAVING A FIELD DAY WITH EXPERT TESTIMONY FROM PARSNIPS AND BEETS.

BE READY TO SEE A HUGE SHIFT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH AS THE WHOLE MACHINERY OF CHANGE LURCHES INTO HIGH GEAR. PIGS ON STANDBY.

I WILL HAVE A NEW DIAL A RUMOR SERVICE INSTALLED SHORTLY TO PAD THE ACCOUNTS SOME MORE. IT WILL AUGMENT OUR OLD DIAL A DINAR SERVICE WHICH IS SOON TO BE DEFUNCT.

IN LOVE AND LIGHT IN OUR SERVICE

ZAP

"BE GOOD, BE LEGAL, TELL TRUTH"

October 22, 2014

Copyright ZAP 2014

POPPY3 TIDBIT : "WE ARE IN A GREAT PLACE RIGHT NOW", 23 OCT

Poppy3 :  the new RATE is very possible this week!

Several events that can trigger their actions to raise the rate for sure...NEW YEAR, ISX GOING ONLINE, ANNOUNCEMENTS, ISIS UNDER CONTROL.

GUYS, WE ARE IN A GREAT PLACE RIGHT NOW.

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 23 OCT

Stage3Alpha:
R.V. / GCR October 22, 2014

ALL i WILL SAY IS i BELIEVE THIS WILL BE TRICKLED DOWN TO PUBLIC BY MONDAY

Omega Man > TRNS are live...i don care wut nobody sayz

Carden > Omega Man And they've been "live" for a long while now.

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More Guesses to NEW Picture Intel/Clues

Vinman October 22, 2014

Dong is busting out.

Watch the next 72 hrs.

Zim is a coin toss and is up in the air.

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Beverly October 22, 2014 at 8:20pm

Here is my take on EXO's clues for today.

At 7:00 the Dragon’s are PHONING (Red Phone) the World Bank

Banksters want 3 different rates simultaneously. CAUGHT with their hand in the cookie jar:  Bank of England!

The DEBT burden for countries around the world is too heavy.

The BLACK phone is ringing……and the sociopath’s are MAD!

Vietnamese Dong (100,000 shown) we are WATCHING for it to BUST OUT! It is NEXT!

The ZIMBABWE (100,000,000,000 shown) is still a coin toss and up in the air.

SNOWING and beautiful weather for gifts.

SEM INTEL FROM S3A, 23 OCT

SEM: I was advised this evening from our SEC attorney out of NY that the Bond money "is moving now"  This he has been advised by the Platform and three separate banks holding funds.  Additionally, advised that those in the system are part  of a registered platform and after the initial round, no other HB will be redeemed by the process.

I guess take it as confirmed and partially unconfirmed.

ARTHUR POST, 23 OCT

[Arthur] The so-called Balassa-Samuelson effect (BS) is an economic hypothesis that implies that countries with rapidly expanding economies should tend to have more rapidly appreciating exchange rates which is common sense any 4 year old child should realize will naturally occur with Iraq's ongoing economic and political reform progression as it would any other emerging economy.... but has less than zero to do with the revaluation process of the Iraqi Dinar.

 To believe it did implies a total misunderstanding of the history of the IQD.

In 1959 the IQD was pegged to the USD at the rate of 1 dinar= 2.8 dollars, and settled at US$3.22 where it remained until the Gulf War.

The current rate of 1166 is not the economic reality rate of Iraq, but is a post Sadaam era "program rate" used by the IMF after UN sanctions were imposed to monitor Iraq's rebuilding efforts and therefore was not caused or engendered by the economic reality or potential of the Iraqi economic outlook.
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So therefore just as there was no reverse Balaasa-Samuelson effect that caused a gradual decrease of the IQD exchange rate, but was engendered by a sudden action caused by the worsening political and economic reality of the Gulf War era, so we can expect a similar reverse action based on the current political and economic reality within Iraq.

We are now awaiting the final sovereignty to be granted internationally based on the efficiency of the newly formed, fully inclusive GOI to ratify, open and fully implement a nationwide budget which will abruptly usher the new revalued IQD on to the global scene.

SUNNY POST FROM TNT : TONY CC CLIFF NOTES, 22 OCT

This is highlights of Tony's CC.

Tony said everything was done and in place for the RV to happen but he does not expect it before Friday afternoon or evening.  Tony was asked not to do the call on Monday.  DC was not on today’s call.

TNT has bills to pay.  Tony understands people are hurting and can only do what they can and said that people on the boards (sharing information) contribute.  If you can contribute go to www.tntdinar.com, click on the “red” donate button on the home page and follow instructions.

RUMOR:  Admirals group exchanged last weekend. - Tony said he doesn't know of anyone in the Admirals group that has.

Tony quotes:  "Be ridiculous if it came out at $1.00"  . . . "If . . . anyone . . . lost house, car - hold onto your dinar.  It's your lifeline!  Make sure you hold on to that."

Parliament:  over the weekend they finalized negotiations/agreements with other countries regarding security, fraud and money laundering.  Tony referred to what Mnt Goat said on Monday and said “we can’t say things others can, because we are the people.”
HCL – done and signed.  Published in the paper last week.
UN Article 8 Compliant was announced last Monday.
ISX Exchange returns live with upgrades on Fri. The new rate is not needed to go live, but without the new rate, it cannot go international.

ISIS:  expect other countries to also do air strikes.
NEW 10K & 25K Iraq Notes for in country.   They need these for major purchases as they do not write checks like we do.  They will use the large bills while they get used to using the Qu cards.  You can google to see a picture of the new Iraq large notes.

Dropping the zero’s  In-country ONLY.  The old 10K & 25K notes will become $10 & $25 notes.  This does not affect us.
1st Basket – it’s changed again!!!  Keeps shifting – will now include other currencies.  Tony did not say which currencies.
Rate:  An RI would be higher than $1.00  Other countries showing at more than three dollars.  Announcing on TV and in the mosques Iraq will be the “richest country in the region.”  Tony: at $1.00?
Timing:  Was scheduled last Fri and Tony feels it will not go before this Friday afternoon or evening.
US Banking Procedures:  Tony said they are simple and straight forward and we would like but he has been asked not to discuss till needed.  He did say, "you can keep control of your currency."
Keep Dinar separate from other currencies:  the dinar will be tracked by the UST and other currencies will be tracked by the Federal Reserve.
Tony’s NDA started out at 5 pages, then climbed to 31, then 41 and is now at 44 pages.
Okie:  Tony would very much like to give the honor of announcing the RV to Okie and he has said this multiple times over the last year.  Today he said he's been asked not to do that.  He did not say who asked him not too . . .
Tony played SUPPOSE in which he made an outline of the US pulling out it's troops so Iraq could grow and would not return unless asked.  That the US knew Maliki was a dictator and that it was time to "sink or swim" for them.  SUPPOSE the US wanted it to get so bad, unbearable, that the Iraqi citizen demanded change.  SUPPOSE the new GOI is now asking the US to come in and the US is saying they want to see the laws passed that had been delayed for years.  SUPPOSE this happens so when the US goes in this time they are seen as an ally to the Iraqi citizen, removing a common enemy and giving them security and protection.  Tony ended with, "it could have just happened that way."

FOR THE HISTORY OF THIS EVENT:  If you received a response from a public official, politician, please make a copy and send to Tony at:  Tony Renfrow,  9580 Oak Avenue Parkway #7, Folsom CA, 95630.

CLOSING STATEMENTS:  

Pam:  Hang in there.  Remember to contact your professionals as soon as possible. . . Be careful who you trust.  People try to control.  Be careful who you trust.

Ray:  Enjoy Wednesday.  Pam’s already said the cautious part.

Tony:  Guys, some information not supposed to give you until the time .  Think of all the things I have told you about exchange procedures, about giving your dinar to people, what you should expect from people you already have gave your dinar too, about people out there who are planning their future to be your future.

There are things you should talk about; question each other;  What are certain . . . exchange situations.  Not cash out situations.   Exchange situations, EXCHANGE SITUATIONS!!!  EXCHANGE SITUATIONS!!!

Be fully aware of and be looking out for . . .  If your new go on the forum . . . and look for the “key” things I’ve told you over the years to look out for during that process.  It is definitely rearing its head.  Certain people to look out for during the process and right now who are advising you.  I don’t care what anyone tells you . . . we are all in this together and it’s going to happen together.  No groups, individuals or anything else getting paid and you get paid three month later, a year later or any of that nonsense that has come up again cause it’s nonsense.  If it was fact the banks wouldn't be preparing for you right now..

I know who the banks are preparing for and the entire exchange procedure. . .We have gone through that with them. They are preparing for you and me.  Not just preparing for groups.  Or certain groups.  There are a whole lot of groups are not even going through.  They just think they are going through.  . . . We are that close.  Everything is good.  I think it’s going to be good.  Be a smooth transition.  . . . Chance for everyone to fulfill all their dreams.

I’m hoping with all hope they let this go thru today, . . . but I don’t look for it until Friday. afternoon.  Enjoy your day.  Miss DC.  He would have given us more input and we would not have had info I gave you without him.  He’s a critical part of what we do.

I'm done.   If I missed something, it's been a bit of a hectic day for me, so please let me know so I can throw it in the mix above.  Remember "who you are and what you do" makes a difference.  The currents of life are similar to the currents in the water.  Even a pebble thrown in causes ripples.  Blessings to all. - Sunny

EXOGEN UPDATE: WEDNESDAY INTEL, 22 OCT

Vinman:Dong is busting out.

Watch the next 72 hrs.

Zim is a coin toss and is up in the air.

Asian markets open at 7:00PM EDT tonight?  Something big going to happen? :-)

Jumping4joy:what does the first and middle clues mean?

Thanks Vinman for all you do

Vinman:The VNN is trading overnight at about $2.05 and is visible on Netdania so it is not being hidden anymore.  As for 72 hrs....we shall see if that is the trigger pull.

Exogen:THE BANKSTERS WANTED 3 DIFFERENT RATES SIMULTANEOUSLY

Gt:New Afternoon Clues 

The Banksters, World Banks & The Fed Reserve Have been putting their DEBT ON THE BACK OF THE PUBLIC/CUSTOMERS WITH THEIR OLD TRICKS

They've Been "CAUGHT with their hands in THE COOKIE JAR"

These Actions Are About to Change!'


Bankers (Sociopaths) are Getting ANGRY....


The VNN Looking for it to BUST OUT (of This L 7 SQUARE)....


The ZIM is A "COIN FLIP" (Will it Revalue or Not in this First Basket)

Look to go Live (VNN) in About 72 Hours

AND AGAIN.......We Got Snow (sick of that Snow)!!!

RV/GCR TIDBIT , 22 OCT

RV/GCR:Iraq Rv'd 10/20/2014...if your in a group get ready as they may be starting calls tonight for schedules as they want this privates done before the thursday announcement....rupiah 9 dollars IQD 4 vnn 2.57 zim .15??????unconfirmed looking for confirmation on any of this...any takers

I4U CHAT UPDATE, 22 OCT

I4U:

[abbababy] WILDDUCK GM You usually have info so, do you have more current info. TY

[WILDDUCK] abbababy YUP NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN AND THE LOCKS HAVE BEEN CHANGED.

THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN STALLED , RESTARTED AND HEADING FOR CONCLUSION.

STAGE 3 DOING A GOOD JOB LEAKING AND I THINK WE WILL ALL BE JUST FINE AND HAVE NO RUSH TO GET IN AND GET THE BEST THE BANKS HAVE TO OFFER.

MY ADVICE TODAY IS STAY CALM AND CARRY ON. THINGS SHOULD GET NOISY LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING . THIS IS AN EDUCATED GUESS.
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[misskitty05] (Per TNT Call)  T: Some groups are not going thru. They just think they are going thru ... they are going to be surprised. THat's it for today ...

[misskitty05] End of call

[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 THIS HE HAS CORRECT DUE TO THE NEW SHERIFF

[musiccitylady] wildduck Groups?

[misskitty05] WILDDUCK the group thing?

[WILDDUCK] musiccitylady AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID I DO NOT THINK YOU WILL NEED A GROUP WHICH IS A NEW DADDY, YOU JUST NEED YOU …AND YOUR GOING TO BE FINE IMO.

SO MUCH BANDINI HAS BEEN SPREAD ON THIS WHOLE DEAL THAT YOU’RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED ABOUT HOW SIMPLE AND SMOOTH THIS WILL GO. ONCE AGAIN IMO

[musiccitylady] WILDDUCK I beleive you are correct'

[lovely] WILDDUCK do u think we will need to sign a NDA?

[WILDDUCK] lovely DO NOT KNOW YET

HIJACK POST FROM TNT: JUST RECEIVED A CALL, 22 OCT

HIJACK: I just received a call from a friend who deals with traders and he said his friend who does bonds said via a 3 page email what Tony & DC have been saying that in Iraq everything was done(everyone seated, in gazette, Govt ready to go to do business).    This friend of mine doesn't get on dinar calls, but he knows that i do. 

TNT CC NOTES, 22 OCT

10-22-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):

Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#

http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=61466925
Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  Today is Wednesday, October 22, 2014.  We were asked not to do a call on Monday because things were ‘sensitive’.  We’ll talk about a whole lot of things before DC gets here!

Everyone who submitted their personal testimonies and letters, we have printed that out tand made some books, and we will pass those along to some folks in Washington DC as a gift from TNT, to let them know what you guys went through.   It’s like two bibles stacked up together, once we had it bound – it looks really good.  They will be part of history, included with the notes and documents.  There is one more thing I want to do, and that is for anyone who actually wrote to politicians, physical letters that were not posted online, we would love to include any responses you received from different politicians.  Many cannot scan or copy them, please send them to.

Tony Renfrow, PO Box 9580 Oak Avenue Parkway #7, Folsom CA, 95630.
If you could make a copy and sent it to that PO Box, I can bind them into these books as Section 2.  The more responses, the more complete picture we will have.  We will post that address on the first page of the TNT website so non-members will have access.  Send them to Tony Renfrow, not TNT, okay?

Also, we do have bills to pay – they called me this morning – so anyone who can donate, that would be really helpful.  Hopefully this is the last time we have to ask.  I was hoping the RV would hit by then.  It should have happened last night, the night before, and it should happen tonight!

In Iraq, Parliament met yesterday and today, and everyone anticipated the RV hitting before then so they wouldn’t have to answer to Parliament.  Monday we were asked not to do a call, and then I got calls and texts asking why others were saying things and we were not.  People make stuff up!  Or they take our information and repost it.  We have the largest audience and influence on the internet for dinar, and the government knows that.  You know that if I’m not doing a call, I have been asked not to do a call – because thignsi were really sensitive and they didn’t want anyone to screw it up. First I was asked to delay the call, and then just postpose it so we wouldn’t have to worry about timing.  Everyone was on pins and needles expecting the RV on Monday afternoon.  It didn’t happen, because of some other things we talked about.  It had nothing to do with ministers, HCL, but other deals being worked in the background that have to do with Iraq, but not the RV.  The RV is being held hostage, or being held as a negotiating tool – as are we.  The governments are trying to accomplish something – let me tell you a story.  I discussed this with some people, and they say I give the government too much credit.

Back when the soldiers were leaving Iraq according to prior administration’s agreement, some said that the President should have negotiated to keep some there.  Maybe he should, but maybe there was a different scenario:  that Iraq was saying they have total control and they don’t need us.  So we listened to Iraq saying it could swim, and we agreed that they need to grow up and do the right things.  We left and left the situation in the hands of their PM at that time. Then we saw that he was a bigger crook than we thought, and now that we see Iraq is a sovereign nation, he was turning into a dictator. They wanted us gone, and we left.

The PM did a power grab, taking all the money, and then we had to figure out how to get this knucklehead out that we put in, without getting everyone there mad that we were still controlling their leadership.  They have to do it on their own, and we let them create a situation (which they did) and we let it get out of control (which we could have fixed in a minute) until the people themselves said, “Enough is enough – these people have to go”.  They have to change their own mindset in order to get this done.  (This is only my vision and opinion, what I see has occurred.  There is no secret info in all this, no documents.)

So now we are at the point where this would-be dictator has created something that is out of control. He cannot call it back and we are not going to deal with it until they ask us to come back and help.  By this time, the government is asking for our help, not just in the air but on the ground.  Initially they were told to lay down their arms, but now it has gone over the top, and they are asking the US to come in help on the ground. We have agreed to do that, but only if they do everything the former PM promised in his eight years, but Iraq has to do it in eight weeks – laws, government, ministries, and all.  Then the Iraqis will welcome our troops back in because instead of being enemies, we will be helping against a common enemy.

What then?  Our  own soldiers are on the ground, giving Iraqis peace of mind, removing a common enemy and providing security for Iraq AND all those with this currency and interested in investing in Iraq.  This could have been designed that way or it could have just happened that way.  But two years ago I said to Pam, “We’re leaving Iraq, but I’ll bet you will be invited back” and now we are.  There is air power over Iraq, Turkey is now engaged, and there are other things we will see in the near future.  That’s another picture of why and how we are where we are today…

It should have gone on Monday, and Iraq asked for 24-48 hours to finalize some agreements with other countries.  It had nothing to do with the RV, but with security, fraud, money-laundering, etc. They wanted to finalize those before this happened, so everyone knows where they stand. Some of what Mtn Goat said was true, but this is more in depth.  Others can say certain things that we cannot because “we are the people”;  when they were trying to take it all away from us, we had that twitter campaign.  Out of respect for the people who rescued that situation, if they ask me NOT to do this or that, or tell that other thing, I comply.  This morning I asked, because DC is not here, but he is having phone problems, so if I say too much, they will call me.

This could and should go at any moment.  My personal opinion is that it will go on Friday. There is nothing stopping the RV, it’s all these side deals.  As soon as those are done, it could go any moment.  I just like the weekend plan;  it makes sense based on how they want to process us.

On Monday, they started putting out NEW 10,000 and 20,000 dinar notes.  They have new designs with new security features, etc. Those OLD notes will go from 10,000 to 10 dinar;  the NEW ones will be at the new rates.  They issued them so that ISIL won’t have the new rates, and so that people can buy large items (and they don’t believe in credit cards yet). Those who have large cash transactions will have access to these new 10K and 25K notes – not the average citizens.  They have to ask for these higher notes until people get used to the Qi cards and seeing numbers on screens rather than cash in hand. These new notes do not affect our currency at all;  we will still exchange at new rates, and a 25K note will still be worth 25,000 dinar. Those new notes are for in-country purposes ONLY, so everyone can relax on that issue.

Bank procedures:  they have got that worked out and we have been given more information but have been asked not to talk about that until the RV is announced.  It is simple, you will really like it, and it will go quickly. The rates are still there, the currencies are there, and they are still projected to come out in a basket together.

318 caller:  This is my first time on the call.  I have a couple of questions.  Do all the dinar/ dong people know that this is about to RV?


Tony:  They do not, and the powers don’t want them to.

Caller:  You said that we can open a fresh account with the bank we intend to exchange with, and you also told us not to mix the different currencies.  So does it matter that we opened an account with cash?


Tony:  This is what I would do. Someone from the UST told me we should not mingle the dinar exchange with the other currencies, because dinar is being tracked by the UST and other currencies are tracked by the Fed.  I would open an account right now for 25 dollars, and then take out the 25 dollars.  Then I would put my money in that empty account. Down the road, I can move that money around, but to start with, use a new account with zero balance.  Having that account set up in advance will make the whole transaction so much smoother for you.

Caller:  Will you be able to have Okie on the call you make to us?

Tony: I  don’t know.  I want to give Okie the opportunity to make that RV announcement, because he has been honest and fair and telling people what he knows when he knows it. There are people who don’t want me to do that, but I’ll see if I can get around that.  I will also make a tweet and do a call, but they will try to control that situation, so I don’t know.

Caller:  I was hoping DC would be here today so I could tell him that I live next door in Louisiana.  I’m not going to Texas until this Ebola thing is over.  [Tony: It is over.]


303 caller:  I put a post in the forum on the 20th entitled “No good deed goes unpunished” and I would like to make sure you read that.


Tony:  I did see it.  I don’t know who will get the contract rate and who will not.  It will be a percentage of the people.  I don’t know how they decide who gets it, but I do have people monitoring that, so that the contract rate does get out.  You can trust that my NDA started at five pages like everyone else.  Then it went to 31 pages, and now it’s 44 pages. 


 I’m agreeing to stuff that is crazy, BUT they are also agreeing to some stuff in exchange.  If they don’t live up to their part, I don’t’ have to live up to mine. The people who stood up and made sure that we are included will still be there, and they will make sure the right things are done.  I have faith that they will do the right thing, and pray that they will so that I can do the right thing, too.

Caller:  Thanks for that and for those who have been covering our backs.  Also, when does Iraq stop selling at the old rate?


Tony:  In different parts of the country they are still using five different rates, and it’s chaos because no one knows what they are doing until this comes out. It’s crazy, with different prices. CBI is to go before Parliament to explain why they haven’t yet activated the RV, and they do NOT want to say it’s because of some other country’s issue.


  There are people in the GOI who have been blind to all this, and the CBI really doesn’t want to have to answer certain questions. Having said that, some of these issues are really important to Iraq and its future stability – nothing to do with money.

Caller:  I understand and yet we are also investors who want a resolution.  I know you are keeping a balance for us and I appreciate that.

828 caller:  DC has said several times he is exchanging on two trips for security reasons;  how can we do that if we’re only allowed one appointment?


Tony:  You have only one first appointment, and of course you’ll have to have another appointment to bring in your reserves.  It’s interesting that DC can do that – he’s a little scary, eh?  I’m not concerned about security myself because I’m not telling anyone what time or place my appointment is taking place.

Caller:  If we get there and don’t like the rate, what do we do then?


Tony:  We don’t know yet.  I would walk into another bank, tell them what I want to do, they would give me the 800 number for that bank and I’d make another appointment.  That is what I would do.

Caller:  The first basket – what are they saying now?

Tony:  They are saying “several currencies”, but it does keep shifting.  They may change it tomorrow and ask, “Why did you say that on the call?”  Because you didn’t tell me not to!

719 caller:  Where do we stand the dollar:dollar rate?  You explained the logic behind that, but where is it now?


Tony:  Even if it does RI [rather than RV], the rate is higher than a dollar.  The RV pretty much has to be $3.58 or thereabouts.  Even if it starts at a dollar, Iraq is being told in the media and mosques that they will be the richest in the region, and Kuwait has just raised their rate.  Even if for some reason it came out at a dollar, how many minutes do you think that would last in the market?  That is the scenario for the first mouse, and you don’t want to be the first mouse.

Caller:  You told us to have a plan if it does come out at a dollar.


Tony:  The US is still showing at a dollar, because we are negotiating.  Every other country shows it at more than three dollars.  So…

Caller:  How much longer can this go on?  We would love to send you all the money you need for the forum, but people are drained at this point.


Tony:  While that is the rate it shows right now, that does not mean it will come out that way. I t doesn’t mean the process itself hasn’t already started, with really good things taking place in the background that are moving us closer and closer. It just means that we need to finalize this part of this before the global explosion. They are doing this like a parent says to a child, “We are doing this for your sake.”  There are things in cyberspace that Iraq has no clue about, how it’s been manipulated, how there has been fraud and insider trading. 


 They don’t have experience of that, and they have to understand and be protected from it before this RV hits the streets and the markets.  Otherwise, IRAQ could lose hundreds and millions if there are not protective blocks in place before this happens.  Otherwise, investors will not feel safe, and Iraq itself will collapse in ten months.  The banks have been given a date and time to look for this, and we’ll see if they keep to that.  But there are so many things going on behind the scenes.

Caller: So it’s not the US but Iraq trying to shore up what has been done?


Tony:  It was the US last week, and now Iraq is taking a little time to understand.  Abadi said that over 100 billion dollars is missing from the last eight years, and he said, “We cannot do that again!”  So there are people who have to be replaced and other security measures put in place.

Caller:  Will we see this before 1. November?


Tony:  Yes, I do, and I think it will come out on Friday afternoon or evening.  And I don’t think that it will come out dollar:dollar because of some things I know that I cannot tell you. Even if it did come out at a dollar, that wouldn’t last five minutes.  The hedge funds would buy up every dinar they could find and their holdings would triple overnight.  Hell, I’d do that myself.  It just doesn’t make sense.

Caller:  Since everyone will have the money at some point, we would all be happy to pay for RayRen’s seminar at any of the four events.  I would certainly sit and listen to him – he’s entertaining!  I couldn’t go to the Denver one because I couldn’t afford it.


Tony:  I think he’s entertaining!  I hope we will do the events, and WF will give their class at each of them.  Ray says he still wants to hold his events post-RV because that is his passion.  So we’ll see.

Caller:  How can we give back to TNT if the forum goes down after the RV?


Tony:  Fewer than a thousand people have donated to the TNT forum, and after the RV I will be setting up a foundation to help kids, so anyone who wants to donate to that, it would be great!

404 caller [yet again]:  Is going to happen this year or next year?  [meaning Islamic year]


Tony: Everything is place for this to happen right now!  Everything has been voted on, all the ministers and deputy ministers are in place, they changed the bank laws, they announced in Iraq that everyone would be on the new rate from 1. October, and today they said they are Article 8 compliant. There is nothing for them to wait for.  They have passed out the new notes and the lower denominations from the banks to the fields. They are absolutely trying to get this done right now.


 The ISIL situation went out of control by the person who brought it in.  Now there is a new plan once everyone has met their requirements and agreements.  It was supposed to go Monday, they asked for 48 hours, and today is Wednesday.  It could go any moment;  I just think it will be dragged out until Friday.  But the information is scrolling across the bottom of the television right now, so they are keeping their people informed.  We’ll see what happens when CBI comes out of Parliament.

Caller:  You said that fines were involved – is that actually happening?  I mean, have people or institutions been fined, and where does that money end up?

Tony:  I am told that they were actually being assessed, but don’t know who was being fined or where that money is going.

Caller:  Now that they are issuing those new bills and we have the older variety, does that mean we need to exchange within a 30-day period?  Have they gone back to that?


Tony:  That was going to be the exchange time for the higher contract rates.  For international rates, we were told we’d have up to two years.  DC thought perhaps they put that time limit in to encourage people to exchange right away.  Over there, with the new notes, they may not care any more because those with the old notes will not get as much for them.

650 caller:  [I gave fair warning that I would not listen to or transcribe this guy ever again.]

Tony:  Admiral’s group has not exchanged so far as I know.  In Iraq, they are trying to get people to exchange the old notes for the lower denominations, but people are waiting until they can get the new rates.  In Iraq, there are also coins available, although I don’t have pictures at this point.  If you put pictures on the internet, they are tagged and they can track where the pictures were taken.  So it’s not safe for those with the pictures.

There are people in this country who have already been paid – both international and contract rates, and rates below international.  Some have got 100% of their money and some only 20%.  Everyone here will get international rates with no problems.  I just got updated bank procedures of how this is going to work, here in the US.  They have been trained and they plan on you coming into the banks here to exchange.

609 caller:  Don’t they have to make this rate before ISX goes live internationally, right?


Tony:  In my opinion only, it will not come in before Friday.  And they can make it live without the new rate, it just won’t go internationally posted.  The lop is going to happen in-country ONLY, so stop worrying about things that do not affect us.

Caller: What’s the issue with the HCL?


Tony: There is no issue!  It was published officially last week!  The Kurds wanted 17.75%, Maliki said no, Abadi said 17%, and the Kurds agreed and signed. And now the CBI is front of Parliament like a Congressional committee to explain why the RV has not yet been released. They said today/tomorrow, but I have heard of other things being negotiated on the side that will make it easier and more straightforward if they are done before rather than afterwards.

423 caller:  I want to ask about the Kiesha’s Funds – how can I get involved with that, when it’s ready?  I have donated a couple of time, and would like to donate through that fund once you get it started…


Tony:  I don’t know.  I haven’t seen the NDA.  It’s ridiculous to even think of an NDA that long. It may not have anything to do with the foundation.  I appreciate your wanting to get involved and I was talking with someone last night about making it nationwide.  I’d love for it to be like a franchise so anyone can duplicate it to help the kids.  My first target is to help kids ‘aged out’ of the system with nowhere to go.  Even if we get restricted, I hope it’s just about dinar, and you should be able to Google “Kiesha’s Kids” and find out.

617 caller:  Are all banks going to have the contract rates?  I read only three…

Tony:  All of them should have access to it, even tier 2 banks.

Caller:  Can we sign up for the events now, or do we have to register post-RV?


Tony:  Once we get clearance, I’ll put it up and people can sign up again.

Caller:  I don’t see when everyone cannot donate ten bucks…

Tony:  I would appreciate that, but people can only do what they can do.  From the start, only a few have carried everyone.  I don’t want people to feel pressured, but if people can help, that would be great. Those who don’t have money but who help out on the boards, we all appreciate that as well.  That’s what this is about:  those who helped with info and supported us through the #wearethepeople campaign and are supporting us still.

Caller:  You will send out the information even if it’s the middle of the night, right?


Tony:  I still want to call Okie first, if I can, but otherwise I will send out the information just as soon as I get it… through tweets, blasts, calls, whatever means possible.  As soon as they say GO, they are ready for people to start calling!  Also, I just got a text from someone, and he Googled the new 25,000 dinar, and he texted me a picture.  So it is out there for everyone to see.

954 caller:  [Appreciation]  Your calls are an education for the kids they cannot get in schools!  I cannot stall my foreclosure any longer;  God willing, this will come in before that date.  My hair is almost white over all this!


Tony:  You evidently haven’t seen my picture, have you!  I hope and pray you get to save your house.  I hope it happens this weekend and turns your world around. For those who have lost your house/car, etc., still hold onto your dinar, because that is your lifeline.  I hate to hear people have sold their dinar to pay the light bill because then they have no hope for the future.  If there is any way, hold onto your dinar and prepare.  Sometimes you have to experience the pain to feel the joy.

Caller:  I have sold everything else, but not my dinar.  It’s never entered my mind because this is what will change my life and my family’s lives.  I’ve given dinar to each of my kids and to friends in need.  I’m paying it forward, keeping the bare minimum to keep the roof over my head and paying the rest forward and being grateful I can help other people.


417 caller:  You said last week that if it came in at a dollar, you would cash in.  Then you said that if it came in at $3, you would have to have a lot of courage… explain?

Tony:  If it came in at a dollar, I would cash some in to have money in my pocket and then use the rest to triple my money.  You know it’s going to be within 20 cents of the Kuwaiti rate, so you know it’s going to go up at least that far!   If it came in at $3 or over, then I would have to ask myself if I want to buy more and watch it go up. Is that really how I want to spend my time, watching the markets and the forex and then jumping on a buy order, maybe in the middle of the night?  If you don’t know how to do forex, that’s a pain.  On the other hand, Kuwait went briefly up to $10-12 – if you had the courage or nerves to wait for that moment to sell at the peak. If you don’t have the time and confidence to watch for that, then I wouldn’t do it.

Caller:  It really looks like it could happen at any time.  How confident are YOU on that happening within the next 72 hours?

Tony:  I said Friday because it makes sense – the rate is stabilized because it’s not moving on Forex, and all the banks will offer the same rates.  That makes sense to me.  Is it scheduled for before the weekend?  Yes, but it was for last week as well. They are able to do it, but it’s a question of how fast they can get these other side issues sorted out before the release.


  On Monday, everyone in Washington was all excited, but when it came to those making the final decision, they said, “Nope, there are things that are not ready that you don’t know about.”  So it could go before Friday… the weekend plan makes sense to me, but they do a lot of things that don’t make sense to me. Sometimes these people are looking at a global perspective and we are looking at a local perspective and they don’t always match.  I get calls starting at 4.30am to 11.30 last night, and I have to put all that together as best I can to share it with you.

Caller:  [Appreciation]  I hope to meet you and pick up some of your courage!
Tony:  That courage comes with a bullet-proof vest, and Pam’s buying me a tank!

That’s probably enough because DC’s not here.  Pam?

Pam:  Hang in there.  Contact your professionals!  Take care of yourself first, and be careful who you trust!

Ray:  Enjoy “Wealth-seeking Wednesday”!

Tony:  Some info I’m not supposed to give you until the time, but think about all I have told you about exchange procedures, giving your dinar to people…[call cut off]  what to expect from people who are out there just to plan your future to be their future.  The banks are preparing for all of us, not just groups.  There are a whole lot of groups that aren’t even going through, they just think they are – in for a surprise.  We are that close, and everything is good.  I think it will be a smooth transition.  We are all in this together. 


They are talking about release today, but as I said, in my opinion it will be Friday.  It was a pleasure to do this call without DC! <joke>  DC is key to the information I’ve been giving you, and we appreciate having him on the call.  He tried to get in but couldn’t today. So… enjoy your day!

DAVE SCHMIDT UPDATE: Oct 22nd, Live Q&A with the Ambassador

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 22 OCT

10-22-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday   THEY WILL NOT LET US KNOW AHEAD OF TIME -- THAT WAS STATED BY SHABIBI -- IN FACT HE STATED THAT IT WILL JUST APPEAR.  [So our first indication will be in Gazette before cbi?] OUR FIRST THING WILL BE THE HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT AND THE CHANGE IN ISX FOREX AND CBI AND EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE -- NO ONE PLACE TO LOOK -- IT WILL BE ALL DONE AT ONCE.  I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE RATE WILL BE BUT I DO KNOW THEY ARE AN OIL PRODUCING COUNTRY AND HISTORY SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE HAD A HIGHER VALUE THAN THE US IN FACT ALWAYS UNTIL SANCTIONS -- MANY PEOPLE HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE RATE BUT THE THING IS -- NO ONE WILL KNOW UNTIL IT IS SET.   [post 2 of 2]

10-22-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   ...CBI HAS BEEN CALLED TO PARLIAMENT AND PARLIAMENT HAS IN THE VERY RECENT PAST STATED THEY WANT CBI TO MOVE FORWARD NOW FOR IRAQ.  THE ISLAMIC BANKS WHICH IRAQ BANKS ARE RUNNING UNDER ISLAMIC BANKING -- HAVE STATED THAT THEY ARE READY TO OPEN TO THE GLOBE IRAQ AND ITS BANKING WORLD.  THAT WOULD OF COURSE INCLUDE THE REALITY OF THE IRAQI DINAR IN ORDER TO DO BANKING.   IRAQ HAS STATED MORE THAN ONCE THAT THEY ARE EXPECTED TO CREATE A GLOBAL IMPACT...I BELIEVE THAT A REALITY RATE WILL BE SET AND WILL BE HELD AT A LOW 2% FLOAT AND WILL LATER BE ALLOWED TO GROW WITH THEIR MARKET -- THIS IS MY OPINION SO WE DONT KNOW UNTIL IT IS SET.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

10-22-2014   Newshound Guru Adam Montana
   Article Quote:  "Office of the Prime Minister, Dr. Mahdi Keywords in an interview for " morning "about the government's determination to resolve the federal budget for the current year 2014 next week"    The Budget is slated for next week... Lots of noise about this right now, and for good reason - after such a phenomenal start to Abadi's reign as PM, the budget has once again proven to be a tough one. However, I don't see this Budget being the same as previous ones. YES, it's taking longer than we wanted to get published, but there is a good chance that it's being delayed in order to coordinate with the HCL. If that's what is happening, we're all going to be VERY happy it was delayed a bit!

10-22-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
   Article:  "A parliamentary committee: Working delete zeros from the Iraqi currency begins next year to reduce inflation"  Quote:  "that the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency will be working by next year," This sentence implies that this is a process rather than an event...   Here is the IMF statement on Iraq..."In the medium term, staff encouraged the authorities to consider creating the conditions which would make possible a move to a more flexible exchange rate policy. Such flexibility could allow a predictable and gradual appreciation of the nominal exchange rate, triggered by strong oil revenues and the Balassa-Samuelson effect, to accommodate a possible real exchange rate appreciation while keeping domestic inflation low.”

10-22-2014   Intel Guru Frank26
   [via Bulldogford65]    Articles...referring to the three 0’s to be deleted from the currency in 5 years...the article states the three 0’s are being deleted from the currency, not from the rate;  The three 0 notes will coexist for at least 5 years with the new currency; understand the difference in lifting the three 0’s from the rate vs lifting the three 0’s from the currency – the articles refer to lifting the zeros from the currency...


10-22-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   
 THERE WILL BE THREE RATES ACCORDING TO TALKS WITH REGIONAL BANK PRESIDENT OVER A YEAR AGO AND HE WAS IN CHARGE OF 15 MAJOR BRANCHES OF THE BANKS. HE SAYS THERE WILL BE A CBI RATE,  THEN THERE WILL BE A US BANK RATE AND SAME FOR ALL AND ONLY SLIGHTLY 1 TO 2 % MORE THAN CBI,  THEN THERE WILL BE A UST RATE AND THAT WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE TO THE BANKS.   IT WILL BE FROM 1 TO 8% MORE THAN THE BANK RATE YOU AND I WILL RECEIVE. THIS IS WHERE THE BANKS WILL MAKE MILLIONS AGAIN PROVIDING RECOVERY FOR MANY OF THEM.   [post 2 of 2]

10-22-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   ...BACK WHEN THE PARIS AGREEMENT WAS MADE MANY OF ALL THE COUNTRIES, USA, CHINA, VN, FRANCE AND MANY MANY MORE ALL AGREED AND FORGAVE LARGE % OF WHAT THEY WHERE OWED. THEY THEN AFTER FORGIVING LARGE AMOUNTS, SOME REPORTED AS MUCH AS 60% OF DEBT, THEY TOOK DINAR FOR THE BALANCE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WOULD CASH IN POST A RATE CHANGE...THEY WERE NOT PLANNING OR EXPECTING A ONE TO ONE RATE...THEY KNEW THE PREVIOUS VALUE OR MORE. THIS IS ANOTHER AND PERHAPS THE BEST ARGUMENT THAT THE RATE WILL BE VERY GOOD FOR ALL OF US.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

10-22-2014   Newshound Gurus Bondlady & tlm724
  Article quote:    "the committee is trying to formulate a new law has the consent of all the political blocs to be passed and voted on during the current parliamentary session"   ...ALL the things you/ we have waiting for are right on the doorstep! I am just so excited about the forthcoming days!   I'll say this, the kurds were sworn in, new HCL law in the works, Erbril agreements all about to be finalized too.

ADAM MONTANA TIDBIT, 22 OCT

10-22-14 Adam Montana: Article Quote: "Office of the Prime Minister, Dr. Mahdi Keywords in an interview for " morning "about the government's determination to resolve the federal budget for the current year 2014 next weekThe Budget is slated for next week... Lots of noise about this right now, and for good reason - after such a phenomenal start to Abadi's reign as PM, the budget has once again proven to be a tough one.

However, I don't see this Budget being the same as previous ones.
 YES, it's taking longer than we wanted to get published, but there is a good chance that it's being delayed in order to coordinate with the HCL. If that's what is happening, we're all going to be VERY happy it was delayed a bit! 

OMEGAMAN TIDBIT, 22 OCT

OMEGAMAN: unconfirmed report that TRN's are trading and system activation is live...more later...


KTFA CHAT UPDATE, 22 OCT

Frank26:  Some of You found me coy by giving more info AFTER the prayers last night.

Trust me ........ I knew what I was doing. But it is NOW important for You to KNOW that the 4 I gave You last night are LOADED WITH SECURITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.Currency
2.GOI
3.CBI
4.Borders

This security situation in the country is LINKED to THE MR !!!!   (Monetary Reform)

BECAUSE it is NOW established at a USA LEVEL and DADDY'S demands ............. So now that there is stability in the security situation of these FOUR it will only accelerate the implementation of this LAVA FLOW project and return Iraq to the purchasing POWER VALUE of their currency within the country.

Hey CBI ............ And I RIGHT or WRONG??? ( )

PS .......... Articles will exaggerate ISIS/DASH to counter this info.   KTFA,   Frank
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moneytalks1 : HI Frank and family, Great news and timing!!! High today so fa is 85.74..it has gone up like crazy in the last few days. Looks like a 1-1 situation.

US Dollar Currency Index (.DXY :Exchange)
Real Time Stock Quote | Source: Exchange
85.69 USD Last Trade
0.38 (+0.45%)

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Frank26:   Hmmm....... Indeed.......... Just as we said two weeks ago when it finally hit 86 .......... That it would stay that way .......... Until needed.

Still maintaining and holding it's position............ Indeed.

KTFA,   Frank


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Sager :Their next year is only a few days away:  LINK

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Moneytalks1:  Hi Sager,I have been thinking about this for a few days. How do we know with a certainty that "next year" is not their year and could be Jan.1,15?

Even though it doesn't say '15. IN my heart with all the evidence, i am sure it will happen before Nov.1 but i just want to be certain that when they say "next year", they don't mean next year as in jan.15.

It would be great if we had real proof instead of guessing,

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Sager: 
 There's no way of knowing really. Time will tell

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bravesfan »  IMO - before we start jumping to 2015 and believing this/these articles that mention that can we FINISH October.

*Franks timeline is Oct 19-31 retro to Oct 1st

*Iteam said they are sticking with October as the month and that is the plan and if Iraq doesn't do it then they don't know what they are doing

*ISX is down from 19-26

*Islamic New Year starts Friday

*Borders are super secure

*The dollar has been UP for a few weeks now

IMO - I'm sticking with Frank & his Teams - I've heard the CCs and read the notes - and if they are wrong then I will move to November or 2015 or whatever the next time frame study is, but I'm not giving up on this blessing happening in October till October is over.

TNT CHAT UPDATE WITH FOX INTEL, 22 OCT

TNT Chat:
fox wrote
1m ago
woman on OMC says the WORD IS OUT among tellers at the bank (WFB) - bank personnel very excited - heard on radio that "thing that is about to take place will change the world

JCR TWEET, 22 OCT

JC ‏@JCR3758 54m54 minutes ago

The public exchange is scheduled before end of month. No hype, get really. Plan with what you have and be thankful. #wearethepeople

JC ‏@JCR3758 28m28 minutes ago
 Caution: Any last minute large purchases of currency could cause your funds to be frozen and investigated. IMHO be grateful #wearethepeople

JC ‏@JCR3758 1h1 hour ago
 Stay grounded. The process is not immediate as in today. Gov obligations and special programs first. Then public release. #wearethepeople


JC ‏@JCR3758 1h1 hour ago
 The status is now finally at the point where they have to release an Intl RI/RV (really) now. Rollout process started. #wearethepeople