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Sunday, September 21, 2014

EXOGEN EXPLANATION ABOUT THE FINAL S3A CC, 22 SEPT

Exogen:WHEN WE DO THIS CALL YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO BANKS TO EXCHANGE (IN REAL TIME) AND YOU WILL SEE A FULL SANTA CLAUS SUIT.......
AS WE HAVE STATED WHEN WE DO THIS CALL RATES WILL BE LIVE AND WE WILL GO OVER ALL POINTS ON THE FINAL S3A CONFERENCE CALL STRATEGY & PLANNING LIST......

S3A CHAT : EXOGEN INTEL UDPATE & WILBUR GRODAN INTEL, 22 SEPT

WILBUR GRODAN: IT COULD GO DOWN EARLY MONDAY IRAQ TIME THOUGH TUESDAY IS HISTORICALLY MORE LIKELY

WE ARE THAT CLOSE THIS TIME...TOAST IT UP!

ADOPTEDSON: Recent Clue Summary:

The dollar is going to $.86

The IMF is watching the changeover from the old FRN to the new USN.

The 1st Basket has been activated with Four Currencies.

The Algorithm is processing Rates of the Four as they are Loaded into the Platforms.

It's still snowing hard.

OMEGAMAN: looks like my 24-48 hour clue may be correct; tell it to the one who told me to shut the f up.

TSR: Willbur Grodan: Are you saying that price of gold and silver will drop after the release of RV? I was thinking that PM's are suppressed prior to RV and they will skyrocket right after RV. If the RV is released now, I am expecting Silver to shoot up to 22.50 area by Mon/Tue. Please give your opinion. Blessings

WILBUR GRODAN: You have it right
Ag up
USDX down
Sorry for the confusion

STEVEN R. DEAN: The world is set, everyone is watching from a distance. The programming is set to change from the old to the new kitties (currencies) that are now in the baskets. Program is loading NOW. The snow is coming down to make a path for Santa sleigh ride ..... <fill in time and date here> 

IKO WARD POST FROM TNT, 22 SEPT

IKO WARD: wrote 10:10 am edt 9/21 - Based on pilot jims post I would say the rollout has already begun. It started Friday night after Forèx closed. You don't get a hundred private wealth manages who can afford G5's to drop everything without cold hard numbers in place.

 For me, this is real Intel. What comes over the wire is always 50/50. You get the truth eventually, but nothing speaks louder than genuine power brokers doing concrete things with the Vice President present. Did you know most financial advisers are limited to how much they can individually manage? I've interviewed four guys to date and they can only take around ten million under advisement without moving to a parent company internal arrangement.

Still no change on Forèx  To be clear, we want Forex to stay at 0.000 until we get the 800. Once the new rates are on Forex all heck will break loose ast the banks. So hopefully, we will either have the 800 later today or Forex will remain at 0.000 when it opens today around 5PM EDT.

So, let's review. Aspen meeting, Forèx stalled, WF board down, Gurus high alert. Possibly end of day two of four day rollout.

SAM INTEL: " ALL BASKET CURRENCIES WILL BE UPDATED AND LIVE ON MONDAY", 22 SEPT

SAM:  In a nutshell....Besides the HK trading platform, the other bond platforms are also anticipating release codes on Monday as well....All bond brokers have been stating that today is the last day to get packages in to them to be included in their Buy-Sell cue – and will no longer accept any bond packages after Sunday.

Lending to this likelihood is the expectation that all Basket Currencies will be updated and live on Monday when the Market opens, including TRN’s.


China is highly motivated to effect the bond redemption process AND is ALL linked with the IQD-RV for the past 7 years....it’s actually a China-IMF law suit settlement of gold backed hundred year old historic Bondholders whose Chinese bonds in default finally coming to fruition!

(Brilliant news, Sam!  Can you divulge your source or your credentials?) Sure! Besides my Swiss sources (my bond portfolio legal mandates) which try hard to separate all the broker nonsense BS, rumors and gossip...and a high level UST official overseeing the intakes to PPP platforms in the US....this intel came early morning after midnight by an ex-White House attorney with access to information from sources in the Administration in the White House.

EXOGEN UPDATE: HIGH ALERT!!, 21 SEPT

9-21-14 EXOGEN: High Alert.
This is YOUR FIRST ALERT of a pending call.  There has NOT been a time scheduled, nor a number to call yet.... Not a false alarm at all.
WE ARE ON HIGH ALERT FOR THE FINAL CALL!
THIS IS INDEED THE FIRST TIME EVER THAT EXO HAS PUT OUT A HIGH ALERT CONCERNING THE FINAL S3A CONFERENCE CALL!

MISPLACEDBUCKEYE POST FROM OOMF: "RESET IN PROGRESS?", 21 SEPT

This is not a post from Okie, but from Okie Oilman site tonight.
MISPLACEDBUCKEYE Today at 6:30 pm

RESET IN PROGRESS?
FACT - THE WELLS FARGO CURRENCY BOARD HAS BEEN DOWN AND OFF LINE SINCE SATURDAY.

WHEN IT COMES BACK UP WITH THE RESET NUMBERS, ARE WE ON FOR THE BANKING EXCHANGING? HAS THE GREEN LIGHT HAS BEEN GIVEN? WE JUST WAIT AND SEE, BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE TAKING THEIR 'CURRENCY BOARD' DOWN TO RESET UNLESS MAJOR CHANGES WERE BEING MADE.

ALREADY BLESSED SHORT BLAST, 21 SEPT

ALREADY BLESSED WROTE:
IT HAS BEEN A GREAT AFTERNOON SO PLEASE ENJOY THE EVENING AS WELL ... NOTHING HAS CHANGED ... ALL IS STILL AWESOME!

EXOGEN SUNDAY UPDATED, 21 SEPT

VINMAN: Erbil salary payments scheduled for Tuesday. (hint, hint...this needs a real rate)
Champagne celebrations to begin soon.
Santa Clause is coming to town.
You are the future
Smiling faces are incognito but....they are smiling :-)

Barzani is happy.  Abadi gave the Kurds a green light to sell oil....you know what that means!
HCL being executed.

GT:  "Dinar Payment ......

Dinar has to have a Value

Before Tuesday!!!!"


Erbil salary payments due Tuesday (BUT YOU NEED A RATE.....Read Between The Lines)

Champagnes ON ICE.....READY TO "POP BOTTLES"

Santa's Comin' & The Snows Comin' DOWN


A Lot of SMILING FACES...."


The ISIS/ISIL Elimination has BEGUN !!!!

The focus is to BOMB THEM OUT!!

Start looking for these actions after 2:00 (not sure which Time Zone)
 
"You won't see a Change on Forex until AFTER the RV anyway (not simultaneous to the RV)!!!"
 
 Announced Actions After 2pm (not sure which Time Zone)
 

THETOPPIECE POST FROM TNT: Rupiah Question I Want To Purchase , 21 SEPT

THETOPPIECE: I am interested in purchasing the Rupiah.  However, I am not sure is there a certain year and  serial number series or denomination that I should ensure before purchasing?

AMBROSIA: I have checked several currency dealer sites and none of them give you the option to choose a year or series for the Indonesian Rupiah, so I would say no, there is not a year or series, or specific denomination to purchase. You might be thinking about the zim which we have been told that there is a series and year to be considered if purchasing that currency (zim).

Hope this helps. :)
          

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 21 SEPT

 
9-21-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23   Baghdad – the Parliament decided to continue to hold meetings to Thursday (9/25) and to resume after Eid al-Adha holiday, Wednesday 10/8 which will be about two weeks...THIS GIVES THEM 4 DAYS TO VOTE AND PASS PENDING LEGISLATION.

9-21-2014  
Intel/Newshound Guru  Poppy3   FROM EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD FROM GREAT SOURCES AND MANY OTHER FRIENDS SOURCES ITS A CONSENSUS THAT THE RV IS CLOSE TO HAPPENING AND THE PUSH HAS NOT STOPPED TO COMPLETE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TILL WE SEE THE FINAL NEEDS FINISHED.
9-21-2014   Intel Guru EXOGEN
    HCL + GOI = RV.  REMEMBER IT WILL BE MONDAY IN IRAQ IN A FEW HOURS.

9-21-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Articles:  "Parliamentary Energy: Snmrr law of oil and gas during the first legislative term of the parliament"   "Interim Financial: Strdna data this week will be put to the budget first reading"  "Urgent .. presidency of the parliament meets heads of blocs to determine the heads of parliamentary committees...they are moving forward.
9-21-2014   Intel/Newshound Gurus BGG & tman23
   From Cornell Law on the study of exchange rates/WTO...Currency Exchange Rates and International Trade Although complex to assess, there exist a clear linkage between currency exchange rates and international trade. Strong currency stimulus in one country has the potential of enhancing export opportunities for trading partners, because it increases private purchasing power and consumption of domestic consumers while making national exports more expensive. Conversely, a weak national exchange rate acts so as to encourage a country’s exports while discouraging the inflow of imports. [...in "laymens" terms...?]   It means Iraq is in not-such a good position and the rest of the world (aka - trading partners) would like to see them increase their currency value.
 

9-21-2014   Newshound Guru Aggiedad77
    I believe...that Abadi is about to acquiesce to the Kurds in a way that will unfold the HCL to their benefit and to the benefit of all Iraqi's...he will be seen and known as the great reconciler for Iraq very soon...he is working hard to bring Iraq into the INTERNATIONAL light...it grows brighter with each day.   Soon...Soon...Soon.

9-21-2014   Intel Guru Frank26
   IMO, The best pie is in the CBI.  In the GOI's Budget.   386 plus 10%.  WHAT am I looking for?  A seated GOI? Nope.  Got one.  A Budget? Nope.  Got one.  A couple of missing Ministers? Nope.  Got'em.  A control of ISIS/DASH?  Nope.  Got'em.   THEN WHAT...?   LAWS.  THE DADDY OF ALL LAWS FOR THE CITIZENS OF IRAQ!!!  HCL (Hydro-Carbon Law).  THE DAY You see the HCL... Nano seconds afterwards You WILL SEE THE IR  (International Rate)!!!   Much is going on with Their Oil right now. [See the possible "to do list" in the Dinar Guru Resource Bar on the left]

9-21-2014   Newshound Guru tlm724
    I am very excited about this...true power sharing of legislation and their is a very strong desire to get these critical laws done...Yes security is and always has been a huge concern but while that is being worked on it is so amazing to see the GOI forming before our eyes and paving the road towards unity and a better life for the people of Iraq and for us as well because with the passing of this legislation comes the stability the CBI seeks!


9-21-2014   Newshound Guru tlm724
   Article:  "Abadi: I will take tough decisions to resolve the dispute with the oil province and the latter demands a similar step"   so they all met and we hope that be a good omen for the understanding on many issues and resolve problems between the federal government and the province...including the agreement on oil...Abadi and the kurds know this has to be a compromise and yes it will be tough  but this olive branch to the kurds will do wonders for Iraq and its people! 

9-21-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   VOTING ON BUDGET...READY TO GO AND ECONOMIC LAWS FOR THE ECONOMIC REFORM -- CBI IS IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING SOMETHING...THEY ARE DISCUSSING IF IT IS THE RIGHT TIME FOR CBI TO REMOVE THE THREE ZEROS OR NOT AND THE VOTE ON THE LAST OF MINISTERS IS TO BE MONDAY.  KURDS AND IRAQ GETTING ALONG AND AGREEING -- IRAQ HAS AGREED TO PAY FOR STAFF OF KURDS AND FOR THEIR FORCES AND THE DISPLACED AND ALSO ABADI AND BARZANI MET AND RESOLVED ALL ISSUES ON ARTICLE 140 AND PAYMENTS AND ALL OIL ISSUES AS FAR AS SALES AND FUNDS.
 

MILLIONDAY TIDBIT: READERS DIGEST VERSION OF THE NEWS, 21 SEPT

Millionday: Readers Digest Version of the news:

millionday] VOTING ON BUDGET READY TO GO AND ECONOMIC LAWS FOR THE ECONOMIC REFORM –

CBI IS IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING SOMETHING THEY ARE DISCUSSING IF IT IS THE RIGHT TIME FOR CBI TO REMOVE THE THREE ZEROS OR NOT

THE VOTE ON THE LAST OF MINISTERS IS TO BE MONDAY

[millionday] KURDS AND IRAQ GETTING ALONG AND AGREEING –

IRAQ HAS AGREED TO PAY FOR STAFF OF KURDS AND FOR THEIR FORCES AND THE DISPLACED

AND ALSO ABADI AND BARZANI MET AND RESOLVED ALL ISSUES ON ARTICLE 140 AND PAYMENTS AND ALL OIL ISSUES AS FAR AS SALES AND FUNDS


[millionday] SEE EVERYONE TOMORROW AT 730 EST -- DONT MISS NEWS -- IT IS GONG SO FAST YOU DO NOT NEED TO MISS ANYTHING GOING ON AT ALL

TEXAS MOM & PAPAJACK TIDBIT, 21 SEPT

9-21-14 Texas Tom: According to my sources, who are definitely 'in the mix' on the sandbox side, both Ministers are seated and have been for quite some time now. And even though they are being used as part of the built in glitch, they are not the holdup whatsoever.


9-21-14 Papajack: IT WORKED!!!!!! Well it seems good news is afoot and unless the Cabal stops things again this should be a great week. Remember Samson and David, we may have to confront the same devils they had to deal with, ah the price of apathy!!!! Yahweh never said it would be easy, just glorious. Keep those prayers of exposure coming they are working all the way to the WH. Stay thirsty my friends.

EXOGEN POST: SUNDAY INTEL UPDATED, 21 SEPT

SUNDAY INTEL UPDATE!!!!

Posted by EXOGEN on September 21, 2014 at 9:00am

Guesses to Picture Intel:


EXOGEN September 21, 2014 at 9:47am

Forstmann Little & CompanyFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Type   Private ownership

Industry   Private equity

Founded   1978

Founders  Ted and Nick Forstmann andBrian Little

Headquarters  New York, New York, United States

Products:  Leveraged buyout, Growth capital

Forstmann, Little & Company was a private equity firm, specializing in leveraged buyouts (LBOs). At its peak in the late 1990s, Forstmann Little was among the largest private equity firms globally. Ultimately, the firm would suffer from the bursting of the internet and telecom bubbles, having invested heavily in technology and telecommunications companies.

History

Ted Forstmann was a golfing partner of Derald Ruttenberg at the Deepdale Country Club on Long Island. He arranged for Ruttenberg to meet Henry Kravis and Jerry Kohlberg of the start-up Kohlberg Kravis Roberts. Kravis and Kohlberg proposed what they called aleveraged buyout. After the two had left, Ruttenberg suggested that Forstmann could do the same himself. Ruttenberg arranged funding for Forstmann, who launched Forstmann Little & Company in 1978.[1] The company was founded by brothers Ted and Nick Forstmann, and Brian Little. With the deaths of Brian Little and Nicholas Forstmann in 2000 and 2001, respectively, Ted Forstmann was the chief partner. A third brother, J. Anthony Forstmann, is a limited partner in the firm.

Since its inception in 1978, the firm made more than 30 acquisitions and significant investments returning over $14 billion in profit for its investors.

Successful acquisitions include Gulfstream Aerospace, Topps Playing Cards, Dr Pepper, Stanadyne Inc., and General Instrument. The company has usually been successful in making a profit on such purchases, selling Gulfstream to General Dynamics, and General Instrument to Motorola. In the case of Gulfstream, Ted Forstmann took direct control of the financially ailing company's day-to-day operations to improve the company's attractiveness to a potential acquirer.

The company has also had some flops, such as McLeodUSA and XO Communications. In 2002 the State of Connecticut sued Forstmann, Little & Company to recover $125 million in losses associated with investments in these two telecom companies citing negligence and breach of contract.[2] While Forstmann settled the case for $15 million, the suit was considered a landmark launching a series of similar actions between private equity fund managers and public entity investors.[3]

One prominent episode in the life of the company was the 1988 bidding war for RJR Nabisco. Forstmann Little offered to acquire RJR Nabisco, but the management (chiefly F. Ross Johnson) instead chose Shearson Lehman Hutton. In the end, the board of directors chose Forstmann Little's arch-rival, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.. The episode was popularized in the book Barbarians at the Gate: The Fall of RJR Nabisco.

Other headline transactions the firm participated in include Revlon (1985), which resulted in the so-called Revlon Duty, and Citadel Broadcasting, of which Forstmann Little owns 27%, following a merger with ABC Radio in 2006. In 2004, Forstmann Little acquired IMG in a $750 million deal, and in 2005 bought 24 Hour Fitness for $1.6 billion

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Klempke > EXOGEN They organized the wealth management meeting in Aspen.

Louie67 > MEMOS SEND TO THE BANKS?

bookman oldstyle > EXOGEN From now on we can refer to Aspen, Colorado as One, One. If there is a G20 meeting going on at the time, of course. ;)

L Klempke > all vectors intersecting at this wealth management meeting.

bookman oldstyle > When "random" events line up so perfectly, one might even suspect it is by design. ;)

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RE: PilotJim Aspen Intel: 
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/big-wealth-management-meeting-in-aspen-posted-by-lt-at-stage3alpha

Ariel Toliver > Yes, I found it last night. And then I woke up 20 minutes ago to see the ''Sunday Intel'' and found it in pictorial form I just had to post it because it added even more proof to what I read in letter form was an amazing thing to see. I was like wowwwwwwwwwww! This is really happening.

EXOGEN > Ariel Toliver   YES IT IS REALLY HAPPENING!!!

Ariel Toliver > That's a good combination as it adds to the weight of relevancy when you have the details from a source totally independent of what you are already familiar with, along with one who has the pictorials to correlate it. So I think we can pretty much say we are all about to be very wealthy.

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 G T September 21, 2014 at 10:16am EXO's CLUES.....

At the Finish Line W/the UST

Memos are being Sent to Private Bankers & Wealth Managers

Meetings to discuss different Angles & Strategies discussed at the G20 Summit

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Eloisa :  Why would One Wealth Management Co. be getting the red carpet treatment from Washington?

Susan : > Eloisa Because of the stature of their clientele....

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Vinman The writing is on the wall.

At the finish line with the UST

Memos being delivered to the banks right now.

Forstmann holding a private wealth management meeting in Aspen this weekend

All these meetings and messaging are paralleling and intersecting each other these past 4 days (UN., UN Sec Council, Paris Club, G20, Forstmann)

You need to read between the lines.

S3A CHAT UPDATE WITH WILBUR GRODAN , 21 SEPT

Wilbur Grodan:TUESDAY 8AM IRAQ - THE HISTORICALLY MOST LIKELY ACTIVATION TIME
Gold producer ANV traded a 2.23MM share block at 1:06PM FRIDAY (after market)
Executed at a price of $3.72 per share making it an $8.3MM trade
This may be the biggest single trade in terms of shares in the stock's history
ANV has its HQ in RENO, NV

Gt: Dinar Payment ......

Dinar has to have a Value

Before Tuesday!!!!

Exogen:REMEMBER IT WILL BE MONDAY IN IRAQ IN A FEW HOURS.

Wilbur Grodan:IT COULD GO DOWN EARLY MONDAY IRAQ TIME THOUGH TUESDAY IS HISTORICALLY MORE LIKELY

WE ARE THAT CLOSE THIS TIME...TOAST IT UP!

FRANK26 UPDATE FROM KTFA, 21 SEPT

KTFA:

Frank I like pie also, but my favorite is 3.45 pecan pie for all of the 10% ……Hey Compadre, Thanks for all you do

Frank26: IMO .......... The best pie is in the CBI.

In the GOI's Budget. 386 plus 10%.

BTW .......... KTFA FAMILY .......... WHAT am I looking for?

A seated GOI?.......... Nope ......... Got one.

A Budget? .............. Nope ..........Got one.

A couple of missing Ministers?... Nope ... Got'em.
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A control of ISIS/DASH?........... Nope ... Got'em.

THEN WHAT FRANK26??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LAWS.

DADDY WANTS THE DADDY OF ALL LAWS FOR THE CITIZENS OF IRAQ!!!

HCL. (Hydro-Carbon Law?

For almost 3 months now .......... It is ALL my TEAMS and I seek.

KTFA FAMILY .......... THE DAY You see the HCL .......... Nano seconds afterwards You WILL SEE THE IR!!!

(International Rate)

Aloha to You and Yours ........... I talk too much...... KTFA, Frank

LIFETALK POST FROM S3A: CONFIRMATION OF ASPEN STORY, 21 SEPT

Lifetalk: My brother called the Aspen airport to verify the story. He told them he was flying in and wanted to know if their parking lot had room. They told him that yesterday it was packed full and many are leaving today. He called back a little later and asked if Biden was still there, they confirmed that he "was in the area but is now gone." Now to see the news article... Wow!"

IKO WARD POST FROM TNT, 21 SEPT

Iko Ward wrote 
4m ago
To be clear, we want Forex to stay at 0.000 until we get the 800. Once the new rates are on Forex all heck will break loose ast the banks. So hopefully, we will either hasve the 800 later today or Forex will remain at 0.000 when it opens today around 5PM EDT.

MILLIONDAY & NOVA TIDBIT, 21 SEPT

9-21-14 Millionday: VOTING ON BUDGET...READY TO GO AND ECONOMIC LAWS FOR THE ECONOMIC REFORM -- CBI IS IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING SOMETHING...THEY ARE DISCUSSING IF IT IS THE RIGHT TIME FOR CBI TO REMOVE THE THREE ZEROS OR NOT AND THE VOTE ON THE LAST OF MINISTERS IS TO BE MONDAY.  KURDS AND IRAQ GETTING ALONG AND AGREEING -- IRAQ HAS AGREED TO PAY FOR STAFF OF KURDS AND FOR THEIR FORCES AND THE DISPLACED AND ALSO ABADI AND BARZANI MET AND RESOLVED ALL ISSUES ON ARTICLE 140 AND PAYMENTS AND ALL OIL ISSUES AS FAR AS SALES AND FUNDS.

9-21-14 NOVA: There Is One BIG Difference Now.

Why Could They Hide Things?

In 2012 & 2013 The GOI Was Able To Use The USD.

Why Did The Old GOI Not Pass The Budget For 2014?

Because In 2014 The GOI Can Only Use The IQD Settle Its Accounts.

No Government In The World That Must Settle Accounts In Its Own Currency Is Able To Do So If It Does Not Have An International Currency.

Regardless Of The Exchange Rate.

The HCL Requires Many Thing, The Most Important Is For The Government To Have The Money To Fund IT. 

EXOGEN SUNDAY INTEL UPDATE, 21 SEPT

Vinman:The writing is on the wall.

At the finish line with the UST

Memos being delivered to the banks right now.

Forstmann holding a private wealth management meeting in Aspen this weekend

All these meetings and messaging are paralleling and intersecting each other these past 4 days (UN., UN Sec Council, Paris Club, G20, Forstmann)

You need to read between the lines.

Barzani is happy.  Abadi gave the Kurds a green light to sell oil....you know what that means!

HCL being executed.

Gt:At the Finish Line W/the UST

Memos are being Sent to Private Bankers & Wealth Managers

Meetings to discuss different Angles & Strategies discussed at the G20 Summit.

G20, UNSC, Paris Club, fortsmann, et al are Overlapping VERY Similar

READ BETWEEN THE LINES (you'll find the answers to the status of the RV)

We're Seeing SNOW AGAIN!!!

Barzani's Happy (must be about the Oil & The HCL Agreement.

Susan A. Smith: An optical illusion is being reflected. The UST is delivering memos. There is a Wealth Management meeting going on in Aspen. Parallel points are now intersecting. At the same time, the G20 has been occuring in Australia. Read between the lines.

Carol Bedingfield:Estimate the amended exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar to be used in technical and economical feasibility studies and for (1.134) dollar per dinar. This price should be approved for 3 years until re-appreciation by the competent authorities.

Does this mean we have a value of 1.134 to start with on the Iraqi dinar EXO?

http://www.mop.gov.iq/mop/index.jsp?sid=1&amp;id=308&amp;pi...

Tot;Here are some things that are not illusions. 1) GOI fully seated 2) Budget and HCL Completed (need rate) 3) UN accepted 4) WTO (need rate) 5) Paris Club order War bills must be Paid 6) G20 united 7) Indian law suit paid.  We are in great place and I see no way that Abadhi can continue without a rate in coming days.  Their next level of success is monetary reform.