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Monday, September 15, 2014

DC TIDBIT, 15 SEPT

9-15-14 DC: Television was given detailed specific locations on banks that are prepped and ready for this...There have been detailed instructions since Thursday on the TV, radio and internet. Even this morning, they said the economic reform is coming very soon or immediately. The celebrations did not occur.

However, Parliament did meet on Sunday, and did the formal seating of the Ministers for the Interior and Defense, plus passing laws to make sure all goes smoothly for the RV.
Across the world, bankers, security, etc., go serious, bringing people in and being fully prepared, because the CBI told them to be ready.

The CBI still says they are not waiting on anything political. Everyone is at a ready state since yesterday afternoon.

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 15 SEPT

Stage3Alpha:

RE: Poppy3 Earlier Today  ...THREE SOURCES ALL IN AGREEMENT AND I ASSURE YOU  NOT ONE KNOWS THE OTHER.
THIS TIMING THING RELIES ON ABADI GETTING SOME THINGS DONE SO ALL WE CAN DO IS MAINTAIN FAITH AND PRAY HE KEEPS PUSHING AS HE HAS  BEEN TO FULLFILL HIS SEATING OF THE GOV/ AND VOTES THAT MUST BE CARRIED OUT.  IF HE DOES ALL THE SOURCES THINK, THE PLANNED RELEASE OF A NEW RATE WILL HAPPEN AS EARLY AS TUESDAY EVENING INTO WEDNESDAY EVENING. EITHER WAY IT SOUNDS VERY GOOD


wilbur grodan Poppy3 intel is consistent
<60 to go    WEDNESDAY show looking strong now

gena  wilbur i think poppy3 is right on i was thinking tuesday and wednesday myself

wilbur grodan September 15, 2014 at 9:36pm   Au creeping higher
USDX creeping lower

Tomorrow may see small moves in the same vein

WEDNESDAY looks like a BIG DAY

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G T  More Clues......Look Out For Janet Yellen!!

She may attempt to THROW A WRENCH in the RV ROLLOUT!!!

EXOGEN > G T NO WE ARE WAITING FOR HER TO START YELLEN

kam306  Exo! I thought you said it was live in two other places yesterday !

EXOGEN > kam306 CLOSE TO 6 PLACES

Christian Da Silva >Seems like, you guys should start a list of all the gurus that have put stuff out there that was incorrect.

EXOGEN > Christian Da Silva September 15, 2014 at 5:53pm EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WRONG

EXOGEN >  BUT BANK SCREENS WITH RATES ON THEM DO NOT LIE

Ron Burgundy > Rates are not live in Malaysia - Total BS LMAO

EXOGEN > Ron Burgundy $3.71

KTFA CC NOTES, 15 SEPT

Hot off the press before it spreads around dinarland.
Here's the playback
IQD update 

• Please do not call Frank with questions about what other websites are saying
• In Frank’s opinion, we are seeing the MR right before our eyes, some can see it, some cannot; the IQD is a speculative investment, don’t invest more than you are able to lose, or so much that you are hurting; Frank showed 2 articles based on the same information that are totally opposite; do not become discouraged, take it to the Lord in prayer, stay strong

• Frank brought on member My Ladies who spoke of signs of the MR – telling the citizens they will be paid, salaries will increase, Visa cards, opening of Rafidain and Rashid banks, Paris Club paid, Iraq obtaining a credit rating, selling bonds, etc.; there is a long list of indicators of the MR

• Frank requested Walkingstick to pull together several articles, go back through and read the articles, pay close attention to what the CBI is saying
• My Ladies referred to a quote by Abadi who said that he is going to fix the financial side first, and speed up the process, then develop the private sector – without a rate, how can the private sector be developed? Laws are being implemented; there is a cascade of articles one after the other talking about the MR

• Frank again asked that we go back and look at the compilations by Walkingstick; there are many things that are obvious, others that are confusing, others that cannot be discussed yet (needs more study), and other things in the media that are childish; so, pay attention to the CBI, look at what they are saying

• I Team report is that security is getting much better, it is much better; ISIS is being managed; Fox News reporting that Great Britain is not participating in the coalition, but I Team confirms they most certainly are part of it; this past weekend, Australia and Germany rained down on ISIS; there are 50 countries in the coalition, and they are raining down on ISIS; drones are grounded and F-16’s are in the air; the GOI and CBI have new leaders, there is unity and stability; the citizens are being taught about the Visa cards and ATM’s, they are being educated to go electronic; 

as of Saturday, Dr S was still in Baghdad but he may have moved on by now; many officials from the USA are in Iraq and in control; I Team believes Dr S is done as he was being very prominent, he brought the CBI up to code, and now he is not in the forefront; MOF, gov of CBI, PM of GOI are all put in their positions by USA; be careful of media reports, many are false, but not so much mis-information as information that has not been updated; I Team believes that we will see the GOI act with incredible speed; “still smells like pudding”

• In Frank’s opinion, the GOI is seated based on reports from I Team, Delta’s team, and what they are doing

• Oct 1 is the middle of the year for the IMF budget, Oct 1 is the beginning of the new fiscal year; it’s an interesting time

Delta came on the call at this point
• Delta agrees with what Frank has presented; regarding the new GOI, all but 2 positions have been seated (interior and defense ministers not seated yet); each minister has been vetted and approved by the USA, so if the USA is controlling the selections, we can also believe the USA is in charge of the MR; the 2 ministers are to be seated tomorrow, and the GOI will have the full international support

• SA is very powerful because of their money, and some have believed that they were behind ISIS and Daash because SA wanted M out; ISIS and Daash are now being run out of Iraq

• A long time ago, Turki said he wanted the deletion of the 000’s in middle of 2014, but CBI governor does not have the power to lift the zeros; why have we not seen it yet? M was making deals for currency swaps, making deals with BRICS nations, etc, which was bad for the US$; it’s all about money

• Tomorrow should see the last 2 ministers seated, then we should see more things happening with salaries, cards, etc; when the time is right with stability, compliance, the 000’s will be lifted; there are a lot of great things happening, should see more happening on Tuesday; the emergency meeting in France also shows the international support for Iraq – do we see this with any other ME nation? No

• Frank said Iraq has something the whole world wants, so they are all leaning in to help and support – look how many have swooped in at the last minute to get in on the coalition

• Delta cited an article that new currency being introduced by the end of this month, and currency samples have been sent to banks, with hope to implement by end of this month

• Frank said everything is just waiting on the rate: HCL, lower denoms, salaries, etc….; Delta said all just waiting on the USA to go ahead with the release of the rate; Delta said we know they are ready, just need to have the stability and now Daash and ISIS are being eliminated; good economy is borne out of stability, look at other ME nations, like UAE

• Delta said that Iraq does need a credit rating; Frank and Delta believe that Sept will be time to ensure the stability, and October will possibly be time to enact, in their opinion; no one knows the date or rate, can happen anytime, and it may take some time

• Frank said that many laws need to be passed before we can see the rate, and the GOI working with speed, no longer dragging their feet

• Delta said that there is no way this can fail, and the rate will
 come out when it’s sure that it cannot fail; things are happening the way we want to see them going; the safety and security for the Iraqi people is increasing 

• Frank ended the call with prayer, and Andy lifted the prayer with the shofar horn blast

PASTOR JOHN POST: INTEL FROM IRAQ, 15 SEPT

9-15-14 Pastor John: JUST RECEIVED A CALL FROM OUR CONTACT IN IRAQ.  PEOPLE ARE ENCOURAGED THAT THE NEW PRIME MINISTER AND PARLIAMENT ARE MOVING QUITE QUICKLY ON SETTING ALL THEIR MINISTERS IN PLACE.  PARLIAMENT IS LOOKING FORWARD TO BRING THEIR NEW ECONOMY TO THE FOREFRONT.

EVERYONE IS ANTICIPATING THE ANNOUNCEMENTS COMING FORTH WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

THE PEOPLE ARE PREPARING THEIR CELEBRATION SHORTLY AND ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.  THEY ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEW GOVERNMENT AND ARE EAGER TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR NEW CURRENCY REVALUE.

WE ARE NOT TO LET MISINFORMATION THROUGH INTEL PROVIDERS OR NEWS MEDIA TO WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN IRAQ.

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 15 SEPT

Wilbur Grodan:Poppy3 intel is consistent <60 to go 
WEDNESDAY show looking strong now

Exogen Direct Intel Clues:

Gt:More Clues......

(According To Clues).....Janet is YELLIN the Dinar RVs live in Malaysia (private or public.....TBD)

Looks Like PUBLIC IS CONFIRMED (According to Clues)

ISIS FUNDING comes from Oil Sales (which could be the end of the Petro Dollar)

THIS STATEMENTS NOT FROM A CLUE......it's about time for The CBI & Iraq to STOP SCREWING AROUND!!! Their going to be behind the "8 Ball" in their Battle with ISIS without this RV!!!!


Vinman:One agreement and contract left to sign between the US and England
The Queen is begging for the RV to occur prior to Scotland voting for independance
Confirmed
ISIS is going out of business and back into hiding
Were back on track with Plan A
It's beginning to snow once again after another delay
and Santa's hat has reappeared.
Clues are Yellen (Yelling/Screaming) that Dinar is live in Malaysia

POPPY3 UPDATE: THE PLANNED RELEASE OF A NEW RATE WILL HAPPEN AS EARLY AS TUESDAY EVENING INTO WEDNESDAY EVENING, 15 SEPT

Poppy3  ...THREE SOURCES ALL IN AGREEMENT AND I ASSURE YOU  NOT ONE KNOWS THE OTHER.

THIS TIMING THING RELIES ON ABADI GETTING SOME THINGS DONE SO ALL WE CAN DO IS

MAINTAIN FAITH AND PRAY HE KEEPS PUSHING AS HE HAS  BEEN TO FULLFILL HIS SEATING OF THE GOV/ AND VOTES THAT MUST BE CARRIED OUT.

 IF HE DOES ALL THE SOURCES THINK, THE PLANNED RELEASE OF A NEW RATE WILL HAPPEN AS EARLY AS TUESDAY EVENING INTO WEDNESDAY EVENING.

EITHER WAY IT SOUNDS VERY GOOD

EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL UPDATE, 15 SEPT

Vinman:One agreement and contract left to sign between the US and England
The Queen is begging for the RV to occur prior to Scotland voting for independance
ISIS is going out of business and back into hiding
Were back on track with Plan A
It's beginning to snow once again after another delay
and Santa's hat has reappeared.
Gt:MORE CLUES.....
A Hole in One
UK & Scotland Contract with Paris Club's Complete
Paris Club have Signed Contract with EVERY COUNTRY Waiting to Live With the RV (erasing Debts/Debt Negotiation)
Safety Net has been out into place for the UK
Theirs begging being done To avoid the Executioner
& Release the RV 
ISIS is SOON To Be out of business 
Time to get Dressed & get back on Track preparing for Santas Arrival

Exogen:SNOW JUST STARTED BACK AFTER YET ANOTHER DELAY,

Mr chen:economic change is back on track
santa is coming

TONY CC CLIFF NOTES BY SUNNY, 15 SEPT

This will be the highlights of Tony's call in chronological order.  As the call, progresses I will update/edit this - Sunny
  • CBI went silent Fri. night and then resumed on Sunday evening.  Announced they are going ahead with the currency change and NOT waiting on anything political.  ME banks were re-notified of the coming currency revalue.  
  • Over the weekend, there were ads, banners, announcement on TV preparing Iraqi citizen for currency change.  Notices of price changes in the markets.  
  • DC - They had phone calls, emisarry's reps, from banks saying the same thing, we are NOT waiting on anyone -- that's when they ran the ads, etc... that brings us to today--- it is in IRAQs hands.  It has been in Iraq's hands since Aug. 28th.  Re-iterated it is CBI's decision.
  • Celebrations were NOT held on Sat.  This is the 6th time the people have been told to expect the RV and the frustration is building. Tony reiterated this is a dangerous situation as they are "playing with fire." No one knows where/when the match is.  DC - disappointed by so many people for so long, they could snap.
  • Tony said we know the rate over the weekend went to the teller level.  It was not $1.09.  Tony later in call: "It was over $3.00" "It could have been $4."
Tony wondered with all this going on, CBI, IRAQ saying not holding it up for political reasons but it still does not happen, then what is the reason it does not show.
DC:  To be perfectly blunt, we don't know what we are waiting on.  The fact it did not go Sat., just pissed a lot of people off.  Diplomats complaining.
Some Congressional Dem's told DC they "want this now," delaying it is BS and they "need the RV so bad" because:
  • Presidents ratings are lowest ever.  Even after his speech last week the polls did not budge on his ability to lead/manage.  His base, women, young people, latino's, is eroding alarmingly.
  • In spite of being told the economy has recovered, many Americans have not gone back to work or have low paying jobs.
Tony's favorite subject - 3-D printing back in the news.  He said they printed a car out that runs at 40 mph with a price tag of $10K.  Tony says 3-D printing is the next "golden opportunity."  That you will see FEDEX, UPS, Staples, etc. all with 3-D printers and whole businesses will start up around 3-D printing.
Groups will probably go first because they are organized.  
TAXES:  DC, "The tax rate is in the docs. . . the tariff thing. . . I don't know if that will count or if that will pass the IRS."
Tony's End of Call Summary: It's all good, they finalized everything - economic reform done and 2 last ministers.  We were expecting it prior to Wed.  It should be seen no later than Wednesday and seen in the Gazette by then.
DC:  "If it goes past Wednesday, it's a major issue."

TNT CC NOTES, 15 SEPT

T= Tony        DC= DC Guy        C= Caller


T- Good afternoon, TNT. It's Monday, Sept. 15, 2014. We never expected to be here, especially on Friday. I wanted this to be a totally different call. But we have up to date info as to what occured this morning. And we have both east and west to bring us up to date. Let's go from Friday. It was a great, great weekend.

DC - On Friday the CBI and everybody put in written form and phone calls, as well as personally with banks in the ME that they're not waiting for any political moves. They repeated that again then went silent from Friday afternoon on to a lot of folks. Meanwhile, the TV shows there were incredibly detailed with instructions on how to exchange, check your prices when you buy things now, make sure you pay the right price, etc. This has been going on since Thursday on TV, radio and internet. We have many confirmations of that this morning. They're scrolling banners about the economic reforms.

DC - The everyday Iraqi is highly worried this is another "screw you" moment by the GOI. It's starting to cause issues since they prepped everybody for celebrations on Friday. They're feeling frustrated and jaded now. This is causing complications with fighting with ISIS.

T - On Friday we had a timeframe and everybody in the world thought it would be right before Forex closed. CBI went quiet on Friday and didn't come back until last night. They went in detail on TV about the exchange procedures, etc. and that's what they've been doing for the last 4 days. Plus, on Saturday morning they announced in the mosques that "today is the day all Iraqis have been waiting for." They took this as a pre-announcement.

DC - So you can imagine they are very frustrated because they're still seeing very detailed instructions on TV, radio, etc. and finance ministers are coming on giving instructions, saying it's really, really close. Needless to say, the celebrations did not occur. But Parliament did meet on Sunday and formally seated the Interior and Defense Ministers. These were not necessarily needed but nice to have.

T - Abadi is doing this to show an all-inclusive GOI. They did a formal vote and signed off on economic reforms, and announced it was sent to the Gazette for publication. All this happened on Sunday night.

DC - Right. Abadi continues to do a good job. On the streets everybody is frustrated and comparing him to Maliki (because of the delays). They're highly worried and concerned. ISIS is still an issue and this isn't the type of frustration they need to be dealing with.

T - They're seeing this on TV everyday, publicly announcing they're not waiting on the US approval on anything. Yet, they're getting these people overly-excited for the 5th or 6th time. It's a dangerous play because they don't know how they will react when it actually does happen. It could explode at any moment and they say "you're no different from Maliki."

DC - Everybody is aware of that. Intelligence and Law Enforcement guys are putting the pressure on them to get this done. The CBI came back and said on Sunday night that they know this is serious even though they hadn't heard back from them since Friday night. So, CBI came back Sunday night and said "let's get ramped back up." Across the world the banks got ready because CBI specifically said they're not waiting on anything political.

DC - Tensions are rising. Bankers had many meetings yesterday and mid-level and high-level guys got dragged in on Sunday. They are quite ready. Law enforcement did the same thing, as did Intelligence Agencies. Everybody got ready and CBI reminded them they will not wait on anything.

T - Thursday night the same thing happened - bankers were called in. Security meetings were held Friday morning in preparation for weekend exchanges. Then CBI went dark. Then everybody went home until Sunday when they were called to get ready again after yesterday's events.

DC - Across the world there were some exchanges used primarily as tests. Everything worked. In terms of us waiting on a specific event, I personally do not know of any. But everyone of my folks tend to believe we are just waiting on the CBI. They've given no guidelines or windows and nations are trying to influence the CBI on them. The USA and UK are trying to influence those windows, but respectfully they remind them it's the CBI's decision.

T - We know the rate has gone as far down as the teller level. And it's not $1.09. That was B.S. going around over the weekend. The other thing is you (DC) were very generous with the "test" statement. We can talk about exchange procedures today, what-if scenarios, etc. while we're just waiting for the CBI. You can ask DC about the next phase and what he would do.

T - I also want to talk about "3D-Printing" and the great opportunity it will present. Over the weekend we saw the 1st automobile made with 3-D Printing that goes up to 40 mph. It may be where the future is.

Q&A begins…

C - Are we in Plan A or B? DC - We are not in either A nor B. Plan A was to keep the US honest, to put it in Iraq's hands. Because of some diplomacy by the US, Iraq was told to get their Parliament completed and they used this to do some cleanup. Our understanding is that was done last Monday and then some folks in town a week ago created some issues and they had to clean those up as well. So that gave more time (24-48 hours). That's when the CBI stepped in and decided it's their time to call and they aren't waiting on anybody. That's when they started running the TV ads. It's very much in Iraq's hands and has been since August 28.

C - Are there any hindrances you see that could blind-side us? DC - Honestly, no. There are some crazy things and people who want to make issues but at this point no one is listening to them. Due to ISIS issues they have been flatly rejected. I don't see a realist option other than begging and pleading on their part to delay it.

T - They've been talking to their people about exchange procedures for 4-5 days now and it's probably because of the different languages. They were giving examples of the price changes and adjustments. They are holding it back for what reason we do not know. Could they be saying one thing and something else is happening in the back? Yes.

DC - The pricing issue is causing a good deal of problems now because a lot of merchants started changing their prices when the ads starting running. That's causing problems.

C - I guess I need to go back and read "Creature from Jekyll Island" again after this weekend. I read over the weekend the US and UK were holding things up. I feel like I took 3 steps backwards this weekend. T - Let's say the CBI has all the power right now. Everybody, including the USA, has signed off on everything. Even the IMF/BIS has signed off. Let's say the US, UK, China, whoever, says "we know you have the power because we gave it to you and that's what your people want to see." But in the back room, they say "let me sweeten this deal up to wait until Friday." So what they were doing up front is now being done behind closed doors.

T - How long will it last? We don't know. But a brand new government is telling their people it's done yet nothing is happening. That's bad for the fight against ISIS, with 1/3 of the country occupied. You can't un-light a match and the longer it lasts the more out of control it becomes.

DC - What are we waiting on? We really don't know. We know we're waiting for the CBI to trigger it. They're playing some pretty serious poker with some guys who play way. But it's not something to drag out longer. The fact it didn't go on Saturday really pee pee some people off. Diplomats are ticked off and don't want this. The CBI, even last night, came back out reminding everybody they're in control, but we already know that. Frankly we're having a hard time figuring out what they're trying to say.

(*They're playing some pretty serious poker with some guys who play really well.)

 C – Is there a new symbol for the rupiah? DC / T - I don't know.

 C - Iraq has been such a puppet for the USA for a long time. Now they say "you have to wait on us" and reminding us they are a sovereign state. Sounds like they want to stick it to us a little. That pressure might be a powder keg. T - I firmly believe they are not trying to stick it to us. They want it to look like a confident new capable GOI. It's okay to delay it for a short period of time, but they can only do that for so long for so many times. That's the danger we're looking at and we know they're playing with fire right now. They've been telling their people to get ready, but what are they waiting for?

C - With Iraq having the power to push the button, how does it make sense that we can "test" or exchange? DC - We're being generous with that phrase "testing the system". They are doing some exchanges now basically as tests, or under the guise as being tests. Are there a ton of them? No. China and others are honoring their contracts. That's fine as long as it gets done quickly. The point is they are representing it as something that is working great. We know it's working very well. Once they start pushing some boundaries then we have another situation on our hands.

C - Are those "tests" being exchanged at int'l rates or contract rates? DC - I do not know the exact rates.DC - Is Iraq sovereign 100% in the world's eyes and are they full members in the WTO? T - I believe they are sovereign but they are relying on the USA as a partner. DC - WTO ascension is a process they are in the midst of. They have been a member of the WTO and now they are fixing aspects to regain that membership. We will find out about all the ascension things after the fact.

C - Are we still supposed to refer to them as "IQN" and "VND"? T - Yes.

C - Is there a contract rate for the VND and if so is there something we need to do to get it? T - I'm hearing the contract rate won't be available for the general public but they will have to make it available just to avoid the hellfire that will come afterwards.

C - Okie said he knew weeks ago this wouldn't happen before 9/15. Have you or DC heard this as well? T - A week ago some people said that. Others have said the 20th. But that doesn't take away from what we're hearing. And that doesn't take away from the broadcasts, memos, world leaders showing up for celebrations, calling in bankers, security, etc. for something that won't happen for another 10-20 days? That doesn't make sense.

C - Have there been any updates about Admiral's Group exchanging before the rest of us? Tariffs or taxes on the exchange? DC - Are the groups going in front? Our understanding is that, as an organizing principle, they already have a group with all the docs and info they need. So if I was going to start something, I'd go first with the organized group before the general public. The groups are only ready to be processed in certain locations. If you're behind one of those groups it may slow things down a bit.

DC - Yes, I've read those docs and there is a tariff/treaty deal in there and they can change their minds. The code name is under 1031 Tax Code. For example, if I sell property I can exchange it into another property to defer the tax liability on your balance sheet. Am I doing that? No. The rates have changed a great deal. The Admiral's Group is well-organized. My understanding is they've had some issues in the past with people trying to change things. But the tax rate is in the docs as a tariff they will treat as a life-time exchange. Not sure if that will make it thru the IRS. I'm not a tax attorney.

DC - There are some groups it will be a nightmare to be part of. I haven't studied all of them, but some stuff does not smell right at all.

C - In your opinion, do you think Abadi might take the offer from the USA to delay until November or beyond? T - First of all, they made an offer and it was declined already. They (not the US), might be slow-rolling him to get somethings approved, etc. to get little things done one at a time. If I need 60 days, I'm not asking for 60 days. I'm asking for 3 days, 10 days, etc. at a time. The mistake in all of this is the fact that he's advertised it to his people for 5 days in a row and the last time they did this there were riots in the streets. They're playing with fire.

DC - It's a legitimate concern. My opinion is NO because Abadi has been asked several times, he has listened to their arguments respectfully, and said it was this type of thing that got Maliki in trouble. He knows what happened to calm everybody down last August (2013). He knows his people have a great expectation of him. Iraqis have been disappointed for so long it could backfire. This could blow up in all our faces bigger than you could imagine. The whole world is reading between the lines and knows they can't ask for anything more.

 DC - I've got both Repub and Dem friends. I have a nice long conversation with a Dem this morning who said they (the Dems) need this RV so badly. They are looking at the mid-terms. POTUS has the lowest ratings ever. Core constituency is eroding massively (singles, Latinos, etc.), they are losing support in a major way. Can POTUS fund-raise? Yes, but he's facing a wall. The immigration delay really hurt them. The economic stuff still will not look good to the general public. Even after POTUS' speech, they came back and told him it didn't budge the polls on the ME situation. All the Dems are saying "give us this darn thing now" so they can get their core supporters excited again. They are saying they need this money NOW and not to wait for elections. Is there still a person who wants to delay until January? Yes. But why did the Boss (POTUS) sign off on it in August? Why did Abadi say "no thank-you?" Why are they refusing to take the US's phone calls? Why are they running ads? Because they believe this is getting done NOW

C - Has it RV'd in other countries? DC - There have been "onesie's and twosies" here and there because some got the memo from the CBI and moved ahead in the last 6 days. I do not doubt some exchanged. T - You have to remember this was scheduled for Friday evening. And Saturday morning they made a pre-announcement in the mosques. Some jumped the gun. There aren't lines of people.

C - If this doesn't happen in the next few days, what's your opinion will happen? T - They're playing with fire. Rates are changing throughout the region with prices being adjusted already. If it takes too long it will p*ss people off. DC - Remember, you're dealing with a bunch of Sunnis. You keep poking them with a stick they get PO'd. And remember, ISIS is paying these

C - If the bank person won't let you look at the monitor, what would you do to look at the contract rate? DC - If they're not going to be that honest with you then leave and go to another bank. What I understand is the banks are highly motivated to get you the highest rate possible because they get a 2% spread of what they give you.

C - Someone said the NDA mentions it being an "investment" instead of "currency exchange." If that happens what do we do? Can we cross if off and write it in? DC - I'm not an attorney. The verbiage addresses the tax liability. We're just going to be cattle going thru a chute. They want us in, 20 minutes in and out. The bankers are worried about 5-6 million people. T - Today would be a good day to get that legal advice. Don't wait until you're at the table.

C - At the initial exchange can we request a cashier's check to pay bills? DC - The 1st appointment is to get you in and out for the exchange. After that appointment, you can go back and get cashier's checks. T - Remember, it may take 24 hours before they'll allow you to draw on the deposit. DC - And don't mix the funds until the tax laws are settled. There may be an issue about co-mingled funds.

C - Would you buy dong right now if you could and hold it until a later date? T - Yes, I would. I'm not telling anyone to buy anything you can't afford. DC - We are not financial advisors but that's one I would buy. And I would not hold it - get the highest rate possible and get out.

C - When I go in for my initial appointment and the contract rate is no longer available, and they offer the int'l rate, how do I get another appointment if we only get one appointment from the 800#s? T - I would go to my appointment and if they don't have the rate I want, I would go back to the exchangers (dealers) and watch their rates online. If you don't have the ability to watch it go up and down, don't do that. It's much like an IPO - it will cycle up and down. Sterling, for example, will lock you in and then let you change the rate (per Frank). That's you're real security blanket right there.

C - But if I haven't purchased from Sterling will they do business with me? T - He said he'll do business with people who do business with him. But you can try.

C - Is the int'l rate fixed or does it become a market rate? T - The market rate will be on Forex and Sterling will pay market rate.

C - What was that rate you said was at the teller screens? T - It was over $3. It could've been $4 but I'm telling you it was over $3.

C - Will the rates be published online? DC - They're trying to avoid that. They're going to offer you A, B or C. Pick one. One reason we wanted to help you is because there will be lots of questions about taxes, capital gains, etc. We are continually pushing for an educational campaign to help alleviate those problems and anxiety. Everyone will be confused and there will be issues. So we hope that somebody will have an educational plan for those going thru the process.

C - My questions involve Plan A or Plan B. Plan A was a full revaluation in a period of time with Plan B where someone outside the USA was to take control of it and it would be a lot more messy. Is that off the table now? T - The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Before it was a different administration with a different goal. Iraq had the power and authority to hold it off before ISIS came about and now that issue affects everyone. On the surface they are saying "right now" but they have had 5 days to do it. So either they are in charge and are just stringing their people along, or they're not in control like they say they are.

DC - Our understanding is that they can choose to pull the trigger when they want to and that's why they haven't gone back to Plan B, unless the US forces them the issue and nails them to the wall.

C - So, let's get to Iraq. If the CBI is in control that concerns me. The worse thing I could see happen is the one who was in charge got moved out and a new guy put in. DC - I had no confidence in Maliki whatsoever. He consistently lied, so the US told him he was not the one to let it happen. The POTUS went on TV many times to say that Iraq needed to be stable and we would support a stable GOI. Abadi is highly motivated to get it done. The world is not going to put up with another Maliki who plays games with his own people. I like the fact they are still running the ads and programs on TV, promising his people he would do it. And then you have ISIS fully funded in your house. You don't have a lot of options. They need the money. And remember, other countries are involved in this around the world. China needs Iraq extremely bad. They have a huge demand they can't meet. The rest of the world is invested. ISIS is beheading people from around the world. Then your own ME partners are concerned ISIS is killing and raping their citizens. So, they have to do something and if it's not an RV they better come up with a good excuse.

T - Abadi could be saying I already told the whole world, "I can give you a bit of time, but NOT a lot of time, its NOT that I don't want to help you, but I CAN'T You cannot get mad at me, the public is waiting!”

 C - I'm more concerned with the CBI delaying this, not Abadi, when we saw private exchanges, F&F, etc. It sounds like certain people got paid off. DC - The new guy can be replaced and he knows it. He may be able to arrange a nice place in Dubai or Seychelles, but it'll only be for a few days. T - The fact they brought him in doesn't mean anything because it was already decided before he got there. There has to be something else going on in the backroom. He is limited in the backroom. But I think it's still all good.

T (to DC) - How long can he keep the infomercials going without backing it up, knowing everything has to be in the Gazette by Wednesday? DC - Much past Wednesday there will be major issues. But even if they turn off the infomercials, the people are not idiots. They will remember what they heard. It would be another nail in the coffin and that's the general opinion of people in the streets and all the guys I talked to.

DC (to Tony) - What's you gut feeling how this will play out? T - Past this week it will be a problem It's real serious when you're in the mosque at 5:30AM telling them it's happening. They not only lose credibility but they will be giving power back to the people in the streets. I don't think they want to leave the opportunity open to strike that match. I think they are smarter than that.

DC - For 4-5 days it's been on TV this is going any moment. They prepped everybody for celebrations that didn't happen. Prices are changing throughout the ME now. CBI clearly stated many times it's up to them and to stay ready. They said that again last night to the banks worldwide. Everyone in Iraq is ready. T - Everything is good. We have from several sources that Parliament met and finalized everything including the final 2 ministers and the economic reforms. They said we should see this no later than Wednesday, when it will be in the Gazette by then. Hopefully Wednesday's call will be a better call. I am sure there will be more info on internet today - it always comes after our call - Enjoy the rest of your day. END OF CALL.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 15 SEPT

9-15-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   ...THREE SOURCES ALL IN AGREEMENT AND I ASSURE YOU NOT ON KNOWS THE OTHER. THIS TIMING THING RELIES ON ABADI GETTING SOME THINGS DONE SO ALL WE CAN DO IS MAINTAIN FAITH AND PRAY HE KEEPS PUSHING AS HE HAS BEEN TO FULLFILL HIS SEATING OF THE GOV/ AND VOTES THAT MUST BE CARRIED OUT.   IF HE DOES ALL THE SOURCES THINK, THE PLANNED RELEASE OF A NEW RATE WILL HAPPEN AS EARLY AS TUESDAY EVENING INTO WEDNESDAY EVENING. EITHER WAY IT SOUND VERY GOOD...

9-15-2014   Newshound Guru tlm724
   Article:  "Citizen: Badr without points .. and Chalabi and David are two candidates for the National Coalition"   ...the next few hours will see a resolution of the National Alliance to nominate candidates for the security ministries and bring them to Parliament to vote on them.

9-15-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday    MINISTERS...IT SEEMS THAT THEY WILL BE VOTED ON TUESDAY IN ORDER TO ONCE AGAIN MEET THE DEADLINE GIVEN FOR ABADI -- HE IS GREAT IN MEETING DEADLINES.  THEY ARE MAKING IT CLEAR THAT HE IS VERY SERIOUS ABOUT HAVING THEM FILLED BY TUESDAY.   HE HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY WILL NOT REMAIN BY PROXY AS THEY WERE IN THE LAST GOVERNMENT.  A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST -- I HAVE NO WORRIES AT ALL IN WHAT TO EXPECT AND AM SO ENCOURAGED THAT THE COUNTRY WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE GLOBE AND TO A MARKET ECONOMY AS WELL.


9-15-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
   NEVER...ONE OFFICIAL THING TO BACK UP A FLOAT AND IT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED OVER AND OVER AND OVER THEY WANT A FIXED MODERATE RATE FOR 24 TO 36 MONTHS TO FURTHER STABILIZE AND GROW THEIR ECONOMY. 

OOMF CHAT WITH PAPAJACK, 15 SEPT

OOM&F:

[Papajack] Good Morning:  by all appearances we are coming to the conclusion of our great adventure.

The question is will it be plan A or plan B as some are saying.

I for one never expected the bad guys to play nice so plan B works for me.

Actually plan B is more honest in a way, just exchange for the same rate everywhere, no NDA's or secret handshakes etc.

As I have said all along the key is the TRN's going live. I can't explain how evil the Cabal is any more than I have, so be on your toes as these guys don't have any rules and don't play fair.

To them all is smoke and mirrors by nature.

I pray with all that is in me the New Republic replaces the US Corporation fraud or the Cabal will just steal your money from you, that's what they do. Stay thirsty my friends.

[BURNS] PAPAJACK, THANKS FOR THE DIRECTION...I have been afraid that the NDA will change the tax status on the Dinars??? I don't know which way to lean...

Papajack] BURNS Under the current tax system your taxes go to the Cabal… if they are gone which we all hope, why would there be any taxes as it would only refund them? I'm told there will be a 15% consumption tax in the New Republic.

[Papajack] You can't put New Wine in Old Wineskins.

[BURNS] papajack...Thanks for that info... Please keep mentioning those thoughts so we don't get covered up with the advice to hook up with Tax Lawyers and CPA's in the crisis mode...

 [Papajack] BURNS while they know the old, they will still have to reeducate thenselves first. I'm told the FED will go as soon as the FRN's are out of circulation replaced with TRN's.

[Papajack] The RV was never meant for us, it was only for the Cabal operatives but they got exposed and our Father let us in on it. They are still mad it leaked out.

 [Papajack] Can you say WEALTH TRANSFER?

[Papajack] I'm sure the population of Eygpt didn't just get up one morning and say let's go throw all our gold at Israel as they leave town. It is the same thing here.

[Papajack] Kinda lets you know who really is in control

RAFAPAL POST: GLOBAL RESET & IRAQI DINAR RV STARTING..!!, 15 SEPT

VANCOUVER, BC – In this ExopoliticsTV interview from Madrid with Alfred Lambremont Webre, Spanish journalist and author Rafael Palacios (“Rafapal”) reveals startling developments pointing to the start of the global currency reset, imminent revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar, and with it the linked end to the Federal Reserve-backed U.S. dollar and return to the U.S. Treasury Dollar and the emergence of the new BRICS currency as well as the ultimate emergence of the Wanta Gold (collateral accounts), held in trust for the benefit of humanity and a new era of prosperity for humanity.
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¡EL NUEVO DINAR YA COTIZA ENTRE LOS ACTIVOS MANEJADOS POR REUTERS!; ¡EL RESETEO GLOBAL HA COMENZADO!
[Translation}: The New Dinar is among the active currencies reported by Reuters! The global reset has begun!
Caveat about the video, those who have difficulty listening to Spanish inflections may have a challenge with this one. The main “news” starts at around 25 minutes, but there is helpful information throughout.

BESTBUY POST FROM TNT: XE SHOWS 1 IQD= $3.48 USD, 15 SEPT


BESTBUY: Malaysia XE.com shows 1IQD=$3.4868USD WoooooHoooooooo!!!!

 

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 15 SEPT

Stage3Alpha:

EXOGEN HOPE FOR THE BEST BUT PLAN FOR THE WORST AND YOU WILL BE OK

EXOGEN PLAN FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING!!!!

RSR > Anyone - can we just get a starting point with a description of
WHAT IS Plan B please.....and the differences to Plan A

Chicago September 14, 2014 at 10:53pm

Plan "A" would have been a nice, quiet transition.

Plan "B" means ALL the dirty laundry will be aired - either way...we win.


According to ZAP, the TRN's are being released TOMORROW, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is proceeded by the final demise of the "markets".
Asia is leading the way, and is in negative territory - right now.
I'd like to see this all go out with a BANG, rather than a limp...

Olewiseone September 14, 2014 at 10:48pm I'm going to take a stab at this Plan A/Plan B thing Exo is putting out.

Plan A was the cabal plan, which if we were to exchange under that plan we would be sleeping with one eye open every night.

Plan B is the Global Financial Reset GFR plan, where we are receiving new asset backed currency for our exchanges and putting our money in banks that are now operating under the new software system. All of which goes live tomorrow, September 15th. Now I ask you, "Which plan would you prefer to be doing your exchanges under?" I'm going for Plan B. I like feeling safe and secure, not strung out like we have been for the past year. Hope I'm right!!! 

jcpneves Are there any news about the RV of Dong?

Mr. Chen > jcpneves once the dinar goes live internationally for the public the dong, rupiah, zim and other currencies should be revalued/adjusted.

Sunshine62 > Mr. Chen True, they are all in the same basket but we are only told of the dinar in this instance

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EXOGEN Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and six Gulf states including rich rivals Saudi Arabia and Qatar agree to join coalition to fight radical Sunni militants.

Pole R. Bear > EXOGEN So it sounds like to me that those who have joined the coalition are those that get to exchange? And this helps pay for their share of the war?

Mr. Chen > Pole R. Bear yes they might be exchanging already to get the rate live so they will get paid with money that is worth something not money that is worth nothing.

POPPY3 TIDBIT, 15 SEPT

Poppy3 :TWO MORE DAYS TILL SCHEDULED ANNOUNCEMENT.   HOPE FOR ONCE THEY CAN STICK TO A SCHEDULE. 

[you're taking this a little more seriously than usual I'm encouraged.] 

THESE SOURCES ARE A LOT MORE SERIOUS THAN EVER BEFORE SO YES I AM OVER OPTIMISTIC AT THIS TIME IN THE 11 YEAR INVESTMENT.

I WISH I COULD SHARE ALL THE PEOPLE I HAVE GOTTEN THIS SAME INFORMATION FROM...YOU GUYS WOULD BE IN THE STREETS DANCING...

STEVE POST FROM TNT: ANOTHER BRIEF UPDATE FROM THE UK, 15 SEPT

Hi everyone,biggrin.gif

Just thought that I would give you a quick update from across the 'pond' as my last one was several weeks ago.
As you all know this is intel because it is my personal experience & not anything from a friend or a friend's friend.
I went into one of my banks this morning at 09.45hrs (which is 04.45hrs EST or 01.45hrs Tony time in California) & enquired to the current exchange rate for the Dinar. The answer was that it is still illegal to trade outside Iraq & nothing has changed as yet.frustrated.gif The Dinar is still showing as £0.0000 on the screens of both of my banks because I checked up on my other one a little while later.
Now you have to remember we do not have any private banks of the sort you quaintly put as 'Mom & Pop' banks, as all our banks are national & run by 3 or 4 main groups.
So we are still waiting on the international release because when it goes public in one place it will be public worldwide at the same time & not, as some people are afraid off, going country to country piecemeal.
I'm looking forward to the CC later today as I always listen to the recording over here in the UK.
Good luck to you all & keep positive.worship.gif
Steve winner.gif