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Tuesday, September 2, 2014

DC TIDBIT, 3 SEPT

DC: Iraq officially released it to the IMF and BIS, and when they are done, they will release it internationally. The IMF and BIS got together because they work in conjunction.
The IMF is the facilitator, making sure all the paperwork it done and getting past any disagreements. The BIS is the technical side with the computer systems and technical/procedural notifications. So the BIS and IMF are attached at the hip, they agree and send it to the central banks around the world.

I got this from five different sources that this has been sent out around the world with a BIS/IMF hold.  So when they say “This is the time”, that is the 2-15 minute boom throughout the world.
We don’t have any timelines apart from the 2-15 minute deal.  Everyone is lined up.  There have been some politics, but they are behind us and hope to finish this up very quickly.

EXOGEN: WHERE ARE WE?, 3 SEPT

EXOGEN: WHERE ARE WE?

VINMAN:   I'm ready for the finish...it's been a long race :-)

SPRINGSCrossing the finish line. Bring on the big hook to hook me over that line.


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OMEGAMAN: IMF is waiting for the formal announcement of the GOI thursday....which is OUR WED...NITE...DIGNITARIES will be there THURS...for the ceremony...WED. NIGHT...is what we've ALL been waiting for...THE ANNOUNCEMENT...

DR. MARK: Per Exo clues a page earlier....IMF has approved.  Now its just the process for the BIS.  Clock is ticking down....

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GT: Additional Clues......

Call Centers are Tightening UP Loose ENDS .........Ready to Start Exchanging

Theirs a Detour Route......but are Getting Ready to Start (ASAP)!!

Big 4 Banks are READY to GO.......100% Confirmed (but are being Quiet)

Watch The Rates of Gold......(going in Reverse)

Iraq's Announcements..........for Thursday.

ADOPTEDSON: Exchange Centers are Tightening Down any Loose Pieces/Tools for Offsite Exchange Today!
They're taking a Detour and Getting Ready to Open Up.
The Big 4  Banks are being Quiet about It.
It's Confirmed 100%!
We're watching the price of Gold Fall.
Iraq's Announcements are Set for Thursday.

WILBUR GRODAN TIDBIT, 3 SEPT

Wilbur Grodan:Ag/Au shakeout as predicted by S3A member
USDX remains lofty at 82.97
Expecting head fake reversal tonight 
The real shift likely THURSDAY AM 0600GMT
This take jives with today's TNT call more or less

SEDNET1 POST FROM OOM&F, 2 SEPT

OOM&F:

[.SEDNET1] it is my understanding that Okie will simply announce the RV. The "rules & Regs" will be the sole responsibility of the various banks, and may very well differ from bank to bank. Since no one herein has had any advance knowledge of the "rules", It would be extremely difficult to teach anyone on a subject that there up to that point has never been a "rule book" for.

That said. I am also certain, that this whole process will not be very much different than a typical trip to the bank. The exchange will be made, One will get a deposit slip or slips, and then the new life begins.

There will not be any constraints on time or urgency imposed upon anyone. Emotions will be high, that I will acknowledge. Other than that? All the caro is being made up.

[soupkid]
 I want all of you to remember something. This has never happened on this scale before. Things will be fluid and we must be adaptable.

Be kind to the bankers and everyone else. It doesn't cost anything to be nice.

When you walk in with currency everyone of you will have the banking contacts. The banks want our business.


Don't make any quick decisions. Pray before you act. pause as long as it takes and listen for answers. Don't just jump into things. Opportunity will wait.

I hope everyone has been paying attention because when it happens the class room may be closed and only chat will remain.

We may not be allowed to continue teaching.

THE GRISTLE REPORT BY IKO WARD, 2 SEPT

Not much Gristle today, pretty straight forward. Between The Meat and Adept’s Notes it’s pretty much covered. Please feel free to add something I missed. 

There is, however, another issue that’s come up these past few days that people may want to weigh in on. I offer the following:

I used to live in an all-volunteer community. We operated a spiritual and personal-growth retreat. There were three hundred of us living under one roof and serving a membership of thirty thousand. We generated more than 10M per year in revenue yet no one got paid. We worked 24/7 in the name of selfless service. The model held for twenty-three years but finally collapsed. 

From those ashes came a stronger model, a healthier way of being, a place that upheld our core principals while coexisting with the realities of our place on the planet. As a family, simply put, we grew up. It wasn't easy.
TNT shares many of the group dynamics I experienced while there and is typical of an all-volunteer organization. Since no one gets paid, access to the leaders and “secret” information becomes the reward. The structure in such organizations is typical: a single, dynamic leader (Tony); an executive committee with access to all information (DC, Pam, Ray); a larger circle with some access and some power over the rank and file (The Mods) … but then it gets messy. Within the rank and file cliques begin to form. Leaders rise within these cliques. People fall in and out of favor. People vie for territory. Individuals cultivate their own cheer leading squads. Institutionalized hypocrisies develop. Snipers appear in the name of being misunderstood. Beneath the façade of community and love petty jealousies rise and fall. The fingers start pointing. It becomes an arena of those who get it, and those who don't. Finally, things get intolerable, mass exodus occurs, consultants are hired to “fix” the problems.
We here at TNT are so lucky. The RV will occur and we will disband just in the nick of time. We’ll throw huge celebrations and all go down heroes.
There is this theory called the 10-80-10 rule. 10% lead, 80% do their best to follow, 10% are trouble. The bizarre thing is it has to be this way, human nature dictates it so. It happens in virtually all organizations. Some people can be leaders in one group, followers in another, and idiots in yet a third – depends on why the group exists. Take any group, any goal, any society and you’ll find this to be true. My spiritual brothers and sisters, friends and colleagues, we only have a few more days; hold dear this shared experience. There are six million Dinarians. 10% are about to change the planet. 80% are about to help bring about that change. 10% will continue to struggle no matter how wealthy they become. That is how it will be, no matter how noble the intention. Those of you who are able must hold out your hand. Next time you think one of our members is an idiot, listen to what they are saying. There but for the grace of God… 
The real work is about to begin. Are you ready?
Say it.

Iko Ward

PIF UPDATE, 2 SEPT

HEY GUYS I STARTED OUT SAYING THIS MORNING THAT THIS WOULD BE A WILD RIDE AND IT HAS BEEN I AM GOING TO MAKE A FEW VERY GOOD POINTS HERE AND HOPEFULLY MOST OF THE CONFUSION OUT THERE WILL GO AWAY.

1)        I AM NOT SUE HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT TRADES AND STOCKS AND BANKING BUT JUST A WEE BIT OF COMMON SENSE AND THINGS WILL CLEAR RIGHT UP FOR YOU, I WILL POST LINKS TO THIS STATEMENT BELOW. NEVER EVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD ANY CENTRAL BANK ANNOUNCE THEY ARE CHANGING THEIR CURRENCY ON THIS DAY OR THAT DAY…NEVER…LEAVES TOO MUCH ROOM FOR MANIPULATION. JUST THINK ABOUT IT.

2)        LAST THURSDAY THE 28TH OF AUGUST  THE CBI PUT OUT A NOTICE FOR ALL THE MINISTRIES TO PLEASE START USING THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, THEY OFFERED HELP FOR ANYONE THAT WAS NOT FAMILIAR AND ENCOURAGED THE USE OF THE SYSTEM FOR THE SALARIES STATING THAT IT WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE. SO IN THE IRAQ WE KNOW THE BANKS WERE NOT GOING AROUND DOOR TO DOOR SHOWING MERCHANTS ANYTHING.

3)        IN THE IRAQ WE KNOW THERE IS NO DANCING AND CELEBRATING IN THE STREETS ANYWHERE. THE “MILITARY PARADE” WAS MOST PROBABLY THE MILITARY HEADING UP TO ARELI WHERE THEY WERE FIGHTING ALL WEEKEND TRYING TO BREAK THE SIEGE OF ISIS ON THAT TRIANGLE. THE PARENTS OF THE MASSACRED STUDENTS ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE DEMONSTRATING IN THE STREETS RIGHT NOW.
4)        THE UNITED SECURITY COUNCIL LET ME ASK YOU, HOW MANY OF YOU UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE? HERE PLEASE GO READ ABOUT THEM http://www.un.org/en/sc/  , I ASSURE YOU THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON IN IRAQ THAT HAS THE COUNCIL EXCITED. WE SAW ARTICLES TODAY WHERE THEY HAVE OUTLAWED DAASH, AND HAVE HAD EMERGENCY MEETINGS TO IMPOSE MORE SANCTIONS ON DAASH, AND ARTICLES WHERE THE COUNCIL IS SENDING DELEGATIONS TO IRAQ ON A 6 MONTH PROJECT TO SUMMARIZE THE GENOCIDE THAT TOOK PLACE, DOES THAT SOUND EXCITING TO ANYONE HERE?

5)        THEY GAVE IT TO THE BIS, OR TO THE IMF OR TO WHOEVER, MY GOSH THE STORY ALWAYS CHANGES…WHERE IS WALDO ANYWAY? IS THE WINDOW OPENED IS THE WINDOW CLOSED? GOOD GRIEF! NOW WE HAVE NEW PLAYERS? TURKI WHO IS CBI AND ADABI WHO IS GOI AND LE GARDE WHO IS IMF GET SERIOUS!!  NOW WE HEAR, AND THIS IS RICH, THAT THE RV IS DONE BUT OBAMA ASKED FOR IT TO BE HELD?? REALLY??? WHERE DOES IT END??

LISTEN FOLKS WE TOLD YOU IN THIS FORUM EARLY THIS MORNING THAT THINGS WOULD GET CRAZY OUT THERE TODAY AND THEY HAVE. OUR TEAM TALKS TO IRAQ EVERY DAY THERE WAS NO BLACK OUT OVER THE WEEKEND. OUR TEAM HAS FAMILY THAT OWN BANKS IN IRAQ, THEY WILL GET A MEMO AT THE LEAST WHEN THIS HAPPENS. THE QI CARDS ARE NOT LOADED AT 3.71 THAT IS JUST TOTALLY CRAZY BECAUSE THEY ARE IN COUNTRY WHERE A DINAR IS A DINAR IS A DINAR, JUST LIKE OUR DOLLAR IS. WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY BE LOADED WITH AN INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE RATE? WHY?

SO AS YOU SEE PLEASE USE JUST A LITTLE COMMON SENSE, KEEP IT REAL, THINGS WILL HAPPEN IN TIME AND NO ONE WILL GET A WINDOW OR A DOOR OR ANY OTHER NOTICE. THE RATE WILL CHANGE IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE AND THERE WILL NOT EVEN BE A NANO SECOND LAG TIME. IT WILL GO ACROSS THE GLOBE IN REAL TIME INSTANTANEOUSLY. THERE ARE NO FUTURE RATES SHOWING ON SCREENS ANYWHERE IN BANKING SYSTEMS. THINK ABOUT THE MANIPULATION IF THAT WERE TRUE. REMAIN GROUNDED, KEEP CHECKING HERE, AS SOON AS THE GOI IS ANNOUNCED WE WILL POST HERE FOR YOU.

KNOW THAT YOU ARE SOME OF THE FEW LEFT IN REALITY AND YOU ARE IN THE BEST PLACE. WE TRY TO KEEP IT REAL HERE ALWAYS.

HERE ARE A FEW LINKS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS RATE CHANGE WILL HAPPEN INSTANTLY
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/05/the-high-frequency-trading-lawsuit-that-has-wall-street-running-scared/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/17/us-sec-investigation-highfrequencytradin-idUSKBN0FM2TW20140717

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dydgO_7aw4E


Thank you

PIF

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 2 SEPT

Omegaman:WED. NIGHT...is what we've ALL been waiting for...THE ANNOUNCEMENT..

Kilo15: I have been waiting to resign from my post and just fly around and see family that I have not seen in years....Praying that this is going to finish strong for everyone in the next couple of days


OmegamanIT WILL BE...the next couple of days max...if my intel serves me correctly...this is the FIRST TIME THAT FOUR separate sources of intel corroborates each other..


Gt:Additional Clues......


Call Centers are Tightening UP Loose ENDS .........Ready to Start Exchanging

Theirs a Detour Route......but are Getting Ready to Start (ASAP)!!

Big 4 Banks are READY to GO.......100% Confirmed (but are being Quiet)

Watch The Rates of Gold......(going in Reverse)

Iraq's Announcements..........for Thursday.

Time to answer the Clues.....

Iraq is in celebration Mode

800#s are ready to be released 

RV Rates are on Admin Hold.....Ready!!! 

GOIs SEATED and have been READY To be announced to the World by PM Abadi (PM Abadi's Eeady to GET IT STARTED & Release The Cracken)!!! 

Heavy Pressure & Weight on IMF & BIS to Release the RV/GCR

Another 48 hr HOLD (is it because of BRETTON Woods Meeting......I'm personally not sure)??

Meetings going on right now regarding Release of RV / GCR

Seeing SNOW AGAIN....

Santa's HALF READY......

CBI's Doing some LAST MINUTE CLEANUP!!!

President Obama's Watching EVERYTHING......(BRETTON WOODS, Iraq, UKRAINE, CROOKS, etc)


Adoptedson:Exchange Centers are Tightening Down any Loose Pieces/Tools for Offsite Exchange Today!
They're taking a Detour and Getting Ready to Open Up.
The Big 4  Banks are being Quiet about It.
It's Confirmed 100%!
We're watching the price of Gold Fall.
Iraq's Announcements are Set for Thursday.

Jenni2:Has anyone seen an international rate for the IDR Indonesian Rupiah? What was the last rate quoted?

Susan A. Smith:I have heard both; $1.87 on S3O, and $1.08 throughout Dinarland.

Jajruth:Jenni...the last one I saw (about a week ago) it was $1.87, but no one's really gonna know until it goes.  :-)

Vinman:Dong over $2!

Lvegas: I heard thru someone working with Platform that $2:11 was street rate and much higher for contract rates.

VinmanThat is my understanding as well.

Jcpneves:Can I get contract rate living in Portugal, Europe?

MarciaContract rates are for US Citizens in the USA

EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL UPDATED, 2 SEPT

Vinman:Iraq is celebrating

800 numbers are ready!

Rates are already loaded and ready (on admin hold)

GOI has been seated and is complete (but not publicly announced globally yet)

Waiting for Bretton Woods meeting on 9/3 to 9/4 and IMF to release the GCR

Once again, another 48 hr international hold.

Meetings going on right now.

Abadi ready to get it started!

Santa is ready....

It's an exciting time

Clean up going on at CBI right now...new governor appointed.

Obama watching NATO meeting this week.

AdoptedSon:1-800 Numbers are Ready!
Rates are Loaded!
Meetings have been Completed.
Waiting for the IMF and BIS to Release pending transactions.
In 48 Hours the Nations of the World are going to be Flying High.
Abadi is ready to GET THIS PARTY STARTED!
The Snowfall is picking up!
Santa is giving the Thumbs Up Signal!
We're All very Excited!
A little bit of Clean Up by CBI before the big day.
Thank You Jesus! (My Improvisation)
Obama is watching the NATO Summit closely.

INTEL CLUES & IMAGES AT 3:49 PM EST, 2 SEPT

INTEL CLUES & IMAGES AT 3:49 PM EST:

Gt:FULL SHOT OF SANTA PLEASE EXO.......NO MORE HALF SHOTS!!!

Tired of the Teases..

Oi:The CBI cleaning up the details.
The BSI handled all technical matters and will signal to the IMF.  ?The IMF to signal release of RV and waiting for the  Bretton Woods meeting on the 4th with Obama present.

Dr. MARK:The crowd is cheering
800 numbers are ready
First Rates are loaded
IMF and BIS are ready to release the RV upon end of Bretton Woods meeting occurring right now
Plan to release in 48 hours!

DINAR IRAQ & DONG VIETNAM UPDATE: "HOW I AM HEARING THEY PLAN TO ROLL OUT THE NEW GOVERNMENT", 2 SEPT

DINAR IRAQ & DONG VIETNAM: This is how I am hearing they plan to roll out the new government. September 3, the remaining ministers will be sworn in. September 4, the official list of ministers will be released to the media and the people. They will announce that the government is “officially” completed.

 The ministers will officially start their jobs September 9 as Jubouri has stated the next official session of parliament is planned to begin on 9/9. There is a stack of bills needing to be passed and implemented such as HCL and Article 140.

 Parliament will not waist any time. On September 9 a bucket of laws is supposed to be brought before Parliament. Following these laws will be the budget law. Then when can we expect the RV? …I have been saying all along we wait for a formal (global) announcement to the public that the Iraq government is now fully formed. I do whole heartedly believe that the RV rollout will be completed just prior to or just after this announcement.

OMEGAMAN UPDATE: " WE ARE AT THE FINISH LINE", 2 SEPT

OMEGAMAN:we are AT THE FINISH LINE. SANTA'S comin to town..
 from my platform: The Gov't  is seated but no names have been announced yet and no public announcement as yet.  Have heard NLT Thursday
another of my trusted sources: Dignitaries are scheduled to be in iraq for thursday kickoff of rv gcr the lowerdenoms come out in 18 hours get ready we are near done
Hey OM, I Had a call over last night from a friend involved with one of the Prosperity Programs.
He said his paymaster indicated on a conf. call Monday night that their fund releases are scheduled for today. (TUESDAY)
We've been advised the funding for these is inter-dependent upon the other funding activity (Bonds-Platforms, etc.)
so ALL IN ALL, THINGS look exceedingly well for things to roll out from NOW until this weekend, or before...IMHO
OM

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 2 SEPT

9-2-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23     That said,  it is not a surprise to see Ismail's name as the CBI governor appointee. What this appointment should tell everyone is that the CARETAKER government is in it's last hours...And at this point we don't know if Parliament did or didn't confirm Ismail (but lets assume they did)...  Tomorrow Maliki will be in a debriefing as commander and chief... The signs are all positive...HCL, Budget, Article140, New CBI Governor, and within a few days a fully seated GOI... Everyone waited years for these events as the precursor to the RV...It's HERE!!   [post 2 of 2]

9-2-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23
   Article quote:  "the Council of Ministers decided during its regular day to approve the referral of Abdel Basset Turki head of the BSA on retirement for the end of his rule of law." The statement noted that "assigning tasks Ali Mohsen Ismail's central bank governor and the agency.  Moshen Ismail was the spoken replacement to Turki when Turki took the position as "temporary".  Ismail was the secretary of ministers...he introduced legislation to Parliament, he worked on the government budget...so he knows the providences, the laws, and their needs. All the reforms ran across Ismails desk...He is a perfect fit for the CBI at this stage, IMO.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-2-2014   Newshound Guru  wmawhite
    In addition to all of the CBI activity, did you know that Abbadi stated as soon as the GOI is seated that he will move forward immediately with the security and ECONOMIC reforms...economic? I wonder.  [sure seems to me that all of the signs are pointing to an impending RV!]  If you compare the activity of the CBI to previous years there is no comparison and now an incoming PM stating that he will move forward...it does sound promising...this continues to look good for very good reasons.

9-2-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23   ...protesters were able to get by green zone security and then get to the Parliament building and rush the doors...Swat and gold band security was called and members of Parliament were removed from he building...So today was to introduce the ministers to Parliament...and we had a security breach (Maliki.. IMO!!) 

9-2-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar
   Delay Update Post:   I just received a phone call that told me that Iraq has been asked to hold the RV for a few days. I can't go into the reasons but it could as much as another week before we see the RV.   The good news is that the ball is in Iraq's court and they may decide to not honor the hold.   I believe this is a selfish act and so do the Iraqi's. Somebody whom I can't name is playing politics with the RV for personal reasons.
  
9-2-2014   Intel Guru Mnt Goat
   So between now and then we wait to hear about the completion of the administration of the oaths of office and the ratification of these candidates by parliament. Then it is official. Then Abadi will make his announcement that we all desire. We know there are many meetings scheduled for this week. There is another  Bretton Woods meeting, there is the NATO session to vote on military support for Iraq and there is an Oil Summit also coming up this week.  The USA secretary of state John Kerry is heading to Iraq on Thursday too. Does he want to be there for some sort of announcement or is he just stopping in for tea?  [post 2 of 2]

9-2-2014   Intel Guru Mnt Goat
   Today is Tuesday 09/02 and finally we get an announcement of the distribution of the ministries per bloc/party/sec. Congratulations Iraq!  But this is still not exactly what we want and need to see as the fully formed and seated government announcement. But I truly believe it is coming this week.  The next step is for the prime minister is to present the names of all the new ministers to parliament and thus at this timeframe probably announce them to the world.  He will also announce that his government is “fully” formed or “completed” at this time. I believe this will occur with the next 2 days if not even today. This is so very close at hand.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-2-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday  
 [Please give a synopsis on hcl law?]    IT IS THE OIL AND GAS LAW THAT REGULATES THE ENTIRE SALE PRODUCTION AND MOVE OF ALL OIL OUT OF IRAQ AND SOME IT EVEN COVERS IN IRAQ AS WELL --- IT IS A HUGE %, IN THE 90`S AT THE TIME,  OF THEIR ENTIRE INCOME UNTIL THEY GET ROLLING IN TRADE --- SO ITS PASSING MEANS THEY ARE GOING BACK TO THE GLOBAL MARKET. WE LONG TIMERS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS HCL FOR SO MANY YEARS -- I THINK WE ARE NUMB.   I AM VERY EXCITED.  [post 2 of 2]

9-2-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   Article quote:  "...the new government gave the green light for the region to export its oil to be regulated by it under the terms of the new law for oil and gas."   THE NEW LAW FOR OIL AND GAS ---- THE HCL.  WITH THIS LAW THEY ARE ABLE TO ENTER THE GLOBAL MARKET FOR OIL... HUGE.   REMEMBER -- THE CITIZENS WILL BE GETTING OIL REVENUES... -- THE HCL IS PASSED.   HCL PASSED AND GOV NAMED BUT NOT VOTED OR ANNOUNCED --- ...THEY ARE SAYING THIS WEEK OR NEXT IN ONE REPORT FOR ANNOUNCEMENT AND THIS WEEK IN ANOTHER.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-2-2014   Newshound Guru  wmawhite  ...during the announcement of the reopening of the Rafidian Bank in London...they also announced that all Iraqi citizens living outside of Iraq will be paid via the Q-Card...how they going to do that?

9-2-2014   Newshound Guru Aggiedad77
   
Article:  "Miladinov Jubouri: Iraq is undergoing a delicate and needs international support"  Speaker of Parliament Jubouri is working with all political blocs attempting to overcome whatever obstacles are in the way of forming a new government and at the same time seeking international support for Iraq...this man seems to be keenly interested in getting a unified government formed so that Iraq can move forward...can he smell the IR perhaps.

9-2-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
   Article:   "Agenda for the meeting (11) Tuesday (2) September 2014"  Quote:  "The vote on the formation of the standing committees in the House of Representatives."   This is huge folks.  If they do what they say...this will swear in the new Economic Committee among others...this committee is what is going to push banking and economic reforms/laws through parliament.  So the sooner they get sworn in, the sooner they can get to work to implement what has been stalled for months.

EXOGEN UPDATE: WHERE WE ARE TODAY?, 2 SEPT

Gt:So According to Tony's Call this morning.....The IMF & BIS own the RV activation but a WORLD LEADER Asked for a delay to the "next window" (3 of them left.....Assuming for this week) because of the "GETTING BACK TO WORK FROM A 3 DAY WEEKEND" (give you ONE GUESS WHO "ACTSD" for this)!!! 

If this is the Case The IMF/BIS should say HECK NO to no more delays (Abadi has to be pissed)!!

My Friends using his QCard Overseas.....We MUST BE at the Finish Line (but where the HECK IS IT.....So we can Cross it)!!!

Kilo15: Something to happen in the next hour or two...On stand by

Exogen:YES PEOPLE ARE WATCHING CLOCKS RIGHT. And from what we have heard another window is about to approach for today

AKM IMRAN UPDATE: " TOMORROW WE SHOULD SEE OUR RV..", 2 SEPT

Akm Imran:Tomorrow we should see our RV providing that the document is/was signed last night and there is every reason to believe it was. The CBI needs this done and it has been waiting patiently since July 1st to introduce monetary change. The last word is that it is still holding in the high threes.

 My belief is it will be $3.71 and I have my reasons for this. Next week should be a glorious week for both us and the Iraqi's. I realize there are many that still don't understand what's going on or how they can do this. I also realize that if I miss the date by even one day, there are those that will call me a kook. It makes no difference to me. I want everyone to know how close this is to being finished.

TNT CC NOTES, 2 SEPT

TNT call notes 2-Sept-2014 – Special Call

Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  We are ready to go.  I am still at the Pastor Wilson’s studio. We’re having a great time.  Ray’s voice is back because he’s been hanging out late with the big boys. I got to meet some dinarians here, we had a great lunch and talked about Pam and DC… The surprising thing is that my wife is here with me, and I called Pam, and they said, “Oh, Pam really isn’t your wife!”  Some people actually believed that myth.
It is Tuesday, September 2, 2014.  We are an hour early (although it’s noon where I am).  We have 6,000 on one line and 14,000 on another.  That’s because Pam has another commitment, and also because we don’t usually have calls on Tuesday.
A lot of good things happened over in Iraq and we want to talk about that and why we are on this call instead of being at the bank.  We have an answer to that, or at least DC does.  DC?
DC:  I’m going to repeat this because I will give details that explain the situation, then we will have a little debate about the situation.  ALL THIS INFORMATION IS NOT SINGLE SOURCE;  we got it from many different places.  All the information comes from many different sides and angles, and we are putting it together.
Good old Iraq, after sunset on Friday they started building the sets for their celebrations.  Bankers and key trainers went to other banks, stores and mosques to walk everyone through the process all over again. 
Tony: Those key trainers were from the CBI and big Iraqi banks for their key customers, and they got together to teach the people of Iraq what was about to  happen. They went through it with the tellers, reception clerks, hotel folks, anyone who does a lot of business saying “here is what the change looks like, here are the lower denominations” and all the info they might need for the RV. They have been doing this for a while, and this was a refresher course, all weekend throughout the country.
Tony:  Why were they doing that exactly?
DC:  On Friday morning, they announced in the mosque that the government was complete and that the currency would be changing very soon.  They wanted the training to be complete so that no one would be taken advantage of.  Any more training stuff? 
Tony:  The bank memo told them it would happen in the next 48 hours, on Friday.
DC:  It did say that, they announced it in the mosques, the trainers went out, and they explained what the fill would be worth, etc.  There is nothing you can buy with the coins right now, but after the RV, 25 fill will be worth nearly a dollar. They reported back to the CBI, major banks and finance guys that everyone was trained and they were happy with the situation, and ready to go.
On Sunday morning, they had a military parade, and they talked about their success is freeing towns under siege. The main issue was that the currency is international, you can spend your dinar, and we are the richest country in the world, leading a massive financial revolution going forth.  This was on Sunday.  Calls were being blocked from the US with new blackouts, but there was a big resounding GREAT. 
Tony:  Can you talk about the letters?
DC:  On Sunday and early Monday, there were letters and calls of congratulation across the world, because it’s smart to buddy up with Iraq.   Those went out from a lot of different country, including the US, and they went to a lot of the higher level politicos in Iraq and elsewhere.  Because of that, during that time, there were a lot of calls interrupted from ordinary folks.  So that was going on all weekend, and Iraq anticipated that the fills and other coins would be ready to be distributed. Everyone is ready and trained, security is in place, and then what happened?!  It’s been quiet in Iraq, and everyone is asking what the heck is going on because it’s Tuesday and nothing has been released.  Obviously, the intent is that after it goes through we won’t care about another 48 hour delay, but Iraq is sitting on a bizarre edge because they have done all this stuff.
Security in Iraq:  a lot of successful targeted hits, the Iraqi and Kurdish military have been very successful along with special forces.  Almost all the ISIL stuff is now based in Syria, where their strongholds are.  We don’t get along with Syria and cannot go there to fight ISIL.  I think that’s all for Iraq.
Ukraine:  for those not following the news, Russia basically invaded Ukraine, and Putin as well as others has raised up the rhetoric quite a bit.  Ukraine thinks this is the start of a major war, and it’s a big issue.  How does this relate to the RV?  The same players are involved:  China, US, Russia, other countries.  That has been a distraction, a  horrible thing for Ukraine but useful for distracting people from Iraq.
UN Security Council are very excited, and they want Iraq to keep doing what they are doing.  In the US, the banks are geared up and have done various tests down to the lowest levels.  I think that is positive, that they are ready, prepared, etc.  This weekend, many folks tested their systems in many different regions and it was fine.  UST is on board and supportive of the situation, helping the banks get ready and letting the IMF do what they do.  The admin folks are preoccupied with many issues throughout the world, and who can blame them? 
There is a set of times given from a little while ago, where they are on a 2-15 pull time, meaning they can pull the trigger across the world.   There are very few who know the times.  We have passed one set of times, earlier today, and we have three other sets of times imminently.  It is extremely close. Can someone try to screw this up?  Sure. Are they trying to manipulate this, or convince people it’s the right time because it’s right for them?  Sure. These times are to be coordinated between Iraq, turkey and the CBI. The US and China and Britain are trying to convince people of the times they prefer, but everyone else is leaning on them to just let it go.
Tony:  Iraq has done everything they needed to do and released the process to the IMF and BIS, right?
DC: And they have accepted that Iraq has changed their deal and sent  it out the rest of the world.  “We agree again that they are ready to go and we fully support Iraq’s RV efforts.”
Tony:  Iraq officially released it to the IMF and BIS, and when they are done, they will release it internationally.
DC: The IMF and BIS got together because they work in conjunction.  The IMF is the facilitator, making sure all the paperwork it done and getting past any disagreements.  The BIS is the technical side with the computer systems and technical/procesdural notifications. So the BIS and IMF are attached at the hip, they agree and send it to the central banks around the world.  I got this from five different sources, that this has been sent out around the world with a BIS/IMF hold.  So when they say “This is the time”, that is the 2-15 minute boom throughout the world.
Tony:  The plan was for this to be released over the weekend. The banks were notified, and called in all their people.  Today was supposed to be the whole works.  Everybody was geared up for that process, even security, but…
DC: There was a phone call between a few world leaders saying “Hey, I know we had these four time slots, but because everyone is getting back to work after a long weekend, maybe we should wait…”  My understanding is that this was not under-handed but an overt discussion between a few folks. “Everyone knows we are ready, but please could we do it in one of these other spots because of this.”  Everyone did understand the reasoning and agreed to concentrate on these three other timelines.
Tony:  Three times last week, Iraq told its people publically that they are about to become rich. They aren’t looking too good by doing this.
DC:  Abadi is not a happy man doing this, but he understands most people will get over this pretty quickly, especially because the reasoning is sound over this last minor delay.  But they are ready, and Abadi doesn’t want to look like a moron.  They are at such a tight timeline now that there are very few ways this can get screwed up. By being open and honest about delays, they are playing a bit more straightforwardly with everyone. 
Tony:  The Qi cards are international, and being converted at the banks.  We know someone who took their card into a bank in US to get their balance, and it transferred over at a rate of $3.71.  We know people in Jordan and Turkey doing the same thing at the same rate.
DC:  Because they have been waiting for so long, our friends are champing at the bit for this to go through in Europe, Dubai and South America.  Those guys are ordering products and putting through investments.  All three of them had those transactions go through today, three guys who don’t know each other, in different parts of the world.
Tony:  Even though the rate is $3.71 on the card, we have confirmation from four different banks who were offering the same rate as each other, and slightly higher than the 3.71.  It is now sitting one level away from the streets.  It was on the street level but they turned it off. It was ready, prepared to go this weekend, and we know that by everything that occurred.  It just didn’t make it to us.  We were that close!
DC: Our understanding is that our part was just not completed, although it is international. They are spending money and everyday people are able to use their cards and bank accounts.  It is international, just the US doesn’t have it.
Tony: That should give everyone a clear picture of how close we are.  AT a moment’s notice, we are within 2-15 minutes, whenever it happens.  I know we are going to get some good questions here…
650 caller:  Is the rate live in other countries today?
DC:  The big answer is “it depends’.  We have folks conducting business outside Iraq with revalued funds, but the everyday Iraqi and the US citizens don’t have access to it yet.
Tony:  Hold on. If the everyday Iraqi is in another country, they can use their Qi cards and get access to it, just not walking up and down their own streets.
DC:  But they can spend money at the $3.71 in country.
Caller:  You expected it to go this weekend, and it seems suspect that it didn’t.  Any problems related to it being on Labor Day weekend could have been addressed months ago.  Knowing full well what this weekend was like, can you give us some more insight as to how/why this weekend was relevant?
Tony:  I need to tell you again why we are here:  to get the information and get everyone through this.  That’s what TNT dinar is all about. We created “wearethepeople” because we felt we were not being treated fairly, and we wanted to get the same things that the politicians and bankers and their friends+family got.  It was never our position to make the government force them to do something they are not ready to do.  WE are citizens, we can tell you that there is something going on without getting into trouble ourselves;  everyone is hinting that it’s for personal or political reasons, but… I’ve had calls already today to burn it all down, but that is not our reason to make them do the RV but when it does happen is for us to be treated fairly.   So we are not going to burn the house down. They made up an excuse, it was plausible, and the other countries allowed it, so…
DC: There are a lot of smart people in that room, and they are thinking the same as we are:  “Yeah, right”.  They know full well what is going on, and they had these other blocks of time worked out.  If it doesn’t cost you that much to let it go to the next time, what is there to gain by saying ‘no’ and smacking the other person in the face?  If everyone is playing fair, not doing anything slimy or stupid, then we are fine.  If it is slimy or stupid, then we’re done.  It was actually smart to give them that to keep the peace, because it didn’t change any of their plans.  Because there has been a nice change and positive support, they want to keep that up right at the end.
Tony: They are going to have to make the final decision or say “enough is enough”.  We cannot give the details; those five people in the room already know the details, and at some point they will know what they look like to the world.
Caller:  I appreciate that truthful answer, but my cheese keeps moving.  Are we still under Plan A?
DC: Because they did everything they are doing, yes.  I do believe they will execute until Plan A in those tight windows they talked about.  I also believe we have pushed past a lot of things people could get hooked on. If you were just trying to screw this up at every turn, there were many things that could have happened in the last ten days.  But they played ball and done what they said they would do.
Caller:  Is the bank update timing still in play?
Tony:  It doesn’t have to be at this time; the system is complete and ready to go on five minutes notices.  Everything has been signed and done, and hopefully this is the one last delay.  We don’t control it, and I don’t know how long they will let them do this.
DC:  My understanding is that the US is still being supportive on the technical and procedural fronts.  In the past there was interference, but now they are being supportive.  If they were going to do something stupid, they would have done it by now.  Actions speak louder than words, and their actions are supportive.
Everything is going ahead, full-fledged. These people have a very full plate in Ukraine, Asia and other places.  There are many different reasons to hold on a second.
Caller:  Do you have any update on the packages?
DC: Our understanding as of last Thursday is that the group of folks who didn’t want us to talk on the phone afterwards appear to have the day at least for now.  We will not be getting the packages ahead of time, and we will get one phone call.  How much we will understand about the process beforehand we do not know.  But everything could change in 24 hours…
909 caller:  I don’t understand about the Zim and dropping six zeros…?
DC:  How many zeros will they lop off the notes?  We have heard six, seven, eight or nine, all from very credible folks.  We understand there are two options for the Zim – either bring it out very high, with six zeros dropped off, or to bring it out in two stages.  At the moment we are hearing six zeros.
Caller:  [appreciation]
Next caller:  Considering all the various constraints you are operating under, I’ll ask you, Tony, what question you would pose to DC that he CAN answer, that hasn’t been asked so far…
Tony:  I have a question he CAN answer, but whether he WILL answer it… If you had a window of time when this will occur, when would that be?
DC:  I will be blunt, guys, I don’t know the times they have set.  The assumption is that it is extremely tight, otherwise why would you get everyone ramped up like this?
Caller:  When you were talking about a 2-15 minute window it could happen, at that point, past the two minute mark, will it go on regardless?
DC:  That’s a good question.  Our understanding is that they would trigger it.  If a country decides they are not ready, they can put a hold on it, but this is so quick in effect, the rest of the world will go and say, “to heck with it.”  At this level, they do know that a lot of the stupid moves have been behind the scenes and earlier in the process.  So to be a little more positive, by allowing everything to get to this point, you will accept the rate in this timeline.
Tony:  Looking at the big picture, many congratulatory letters have gone out. So a delay might be okay, but starting over is not.
DC:  Let’s say your friends and other folks have congratulated the country. What happens when the press or historians look back on this, see the timestamp to that letter is Sunday, and then that country says they don’t accept it on Monday.  That country would look like a big idiot and I hope no one is that big of an idiot.  So again, in a more positive light, everyone is playing ball and doing what they said they would do, and the delay was asked for in an open manner.
Caller:  So what did Abadi tell his people?
DC:  He told his people that it would be active on Sunday, it’s now Tuesday, and he has egg on his face, but not for very long.
Caller: Thanks, and I hope they allow you to make more post-RV calls!
[dropped call]
DC:  Everything looks great.  We don’t have any timelines apart from the 2-15 minute deal.  Everyone is lined up. There have been some politics, but they are behind us and hope to finish this up very quickly.
Tony:  There is a window and a timeline out there again, three option left that DC knows of.  It will be 2-15 minutes once it is activated.  The rates are on the bank screens and it is a higher rate than Iraq. It’s just a matter of when we go.  All the other currencies are ready, there are no rate changes there, and the only question is whether we are able to  do more calls once it is out the gate. It’s a short week;  we can do another call on Thursday if we need to.  Enjoy your day!