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Tuesday, July 8, 2014

GUESSES TO EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL/PICTURES CLUES AT 9:57 PM EST, 8 JULY

GT: Christmas in July.......

RANGER4564: Right Now... Bank Codes Loaded Internationally Right Now 100% confirmed 

DIDDLY: Exo said on Batmans call right now  - that things look really good for tomorrow.  WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The only thing that can stop this - is our PTB  on this side of the world. 

TERRY D: Looks like Christmas!

J. HARV: The elves are very busy checking their list as the presents are wrapped and waiting. The banks screens showing numbers/codes are loaded int'lly right now...100% confirmed.
Stockings are hung with Peace..Hope.. Love and Merry Christmas. Clock is ticking closer to the hour

OMEGAMAN: it is all lining up, tomorrow, or thursday we'll be at the bank..

RECAPS OF EXOGEN, ARTHUR & FLASHING CC TONIGHT, 8 JULY

Diddly:Listening to the call with Flashing and Arthur and they are saying  should be this week for RV and no later than next week.  WOOOOHOOOOOO 

NANA7:Great call.  Flashing real time update....says rv will happen this week.  Super news!!


Arthur update from stagealpha cc tonight:


Marcia:His first info is: "Rate is between 86 cents and 4 dollars. Guru's do not have any idea of rate.". (Yet he knows it is .86 to 4.00).


"Nothing announced in Mosque in Iraq. No dancing in streets."

"Guru's make up excuses before they make up the lie so everyone believes them"

Hanging up now... This guy is a horrible speaker. Now I see why he said he doesn't do many calls.

EXOGEN ,ARTHUR & FLASHING CC NOTES, 8 JULY

Stage3Alpha:

Rainey G July 8, 2014 The replay for Arthur's call tonight is:

(559) 726-1299 access code 794705

nana7 July 8, 2014  Great call.  Flashing real time update....says rv will happen this week.  Super news!!
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Transcript of the “Batman CC tonight:  “BATMAN RETURNS!!!!!!”    (CC is still going on)

PARTY TIME: 9:00 PM EST

PARTY LINE:
   605-562-3140  PARTY PIN:  329559#

SLH1812:  Call notes up to 8:54 Central:


Exo speaking:
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  1. Maliki - in or out of Iraq? Info privileged at S3 (Kerry connection). Maliki now in London; purchased a soccer team, Exo said they know for a fact M did this. Kurdistan move was a bluff; Kurds control the oil. We know that's where the largest military base US...we knew that CBI was being moved to Kurdistan too. Tie in the fact that Sistani said we don't want Maliki, and look at how M was satying there in the middle and trying to create chaos...all this had everybody on the edge...when is the RV...etc.
  2. RV & GCR - we are looking for something to happen this week, but this is a fluid situation. Meeting changed to this Sunday
  3. WF - we already know what they did (friends & family exchanges)...SDLCs, VODs, Structures, loans, etc they have been leveraging SKRs etc. Most recent cash outs, funds were UNclawed, allowed to go through; trading platforms are on high alert; TRNs expected to start mass circulation in the next few days; All currencies are locked and loaded WW in the system; WF starting to put their bank codes in. F&F--it's wrong, but it's reality. They know we're watching them. Affiliations create first in lines; that's just the way the system. Encourage DL to ensure our points are heard. We will have capital, and we can make some big changes in the future. 
  4. We need to udnerstand the MCA accounts; bank on the wealth side of the bank; understand the structure of the different accounts; diversified currencies; we don't know what they're going to do and how they're going to do it. That's why you need to have a diversified portfolio, and use arbitrage.
Exogen(E)/Batman (B):

B: am I going to be in the bank tomorrow?

E: ha, I hear the branch breaking already! Everything is pretty much lined up, watch for the red suit on the website bc it's time to the bank immediately! Everything is pointing to us being at the end. M Being out of the way, don't see anything that can stop this except manufactured lies

B: what is the significance of bank--structure, international commerce etc.


E: we've been looking at that bank for quite some time...WACA??? bank. They told him to put all his dinar in a wooden box and they would take care of it. (Scam)


E: one other thing...yesterday, a ton of cargo ships were unloading, electronics. More container ships on the way, means that WTO must have happened in the back room too. They are literally telling everybody that they are ready to business internationally. Getting some conflicting info on the cards (some loaded, some not), but all info is showing ready to go.


B: right, all that cargo, they wouldn't let it come in if they couldn't get stuff in without tariffs (???)


E: When you're dealing with containers and ships with that much cargo...well, just now getting my credit squared away...I've been bankrupt...no checking account...now I call you up and I tell you I'm opening up a store, and I call you and ask you to send me a bunch of TVs for my business--now are you going to tell me you want the money up front or will you give me credit?? Now, let's multiply this picture by an entire country! You will begin to get the picture of why seeing the cargo ships is so important.


B: We can see things progressing at light speed now that all realize that M is outta there. Things will be happening very rapidly now, even more so over the next 24 hours.


E: Is Rene here?

R: No, Rene is not here, she's gone (laughter)


B: Rene, go ahead

E: Yes, explain why it's important of having a plan in place


R: I'm going to do what B's friend said he would do, the Canadian farmer: I have a plan, I'm going to exchange a few notes and then I'm going to sit back and watch what is happening. Things are fluid. You don't want to cash in things all at once, unless things are super high, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Most important is to be safe about things, then GET YOURSELF PROTECTED...because once we have this money we will all be targets. People talk. So just be careful. That's my warning, think about this. That's about it...we don't know what we're going to do yet, we have plan ABCDFG...it all depends on what the govt does when it's released.


B: Thank you Rene. I'm with you, we don't know what's going to unfold with govt or the banks. There are a lot of things they could put into play. Doesn't make a lot of sense to spend a lot of money or time before we know how things are going. We will probably get some more intel as the night goes. Right now, Batgirl (BG), are you with me tonight? We'll give her a minute.

E: Batman, I just did get some intel...don't go crazy. We're hearing that tomorrow just might be it...now don't everybody go crazy!

B: Amen to that Brother!

R: Is it BG's birthday?

B: It's midnight tonight! I planned it that way (hahaha)

B: I sent Maliki an email, I said to hold up till the 8th!


E: You should know Atlanta is the new Reno, but there are some people there now waiting to do SOMEthing, I just got that right now.


B: I had to take a call...BG, are you on now? They're having trouble getting in...they are muted. (noise, trying to open the line)

??: Get ready get ready get ready! So superfantastic, as another friend of mine would say.


E: Repeats that "this" could happen tomorrow. There are people waiting to do something right now that I can't get into the details right now... I don't see why this can't happen this week, I'll put it like that.


??: Do you know anything about Zimbabwe?


E:  Yes, we understand...well keep in mind it's fluid...Zim shuffle could possibly be a reality. No definitives in this investment. All we can plan for is what MAY take place...we don't know what they're going to do, but we've heard that there ARE going to be TWO movements


BG: Batman, can you hear me?
B: We're all here to wish you a happy birthday.

(Everybody singing, wishing BG happy birthday)

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Susan A. Exo: Said to not go crazy; but is hearing that tomorrow just MIGHT be it. Also, Atlanta is the new Reno. There are people right now....waiting to do something.

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EXO: what we're hearing with everything locked and loaded and ppl willing to do right now..based on platform and banking side..looking good


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G T July 8, 2014 Wow...Did you just hear what EXO say.......TOMORROW TOMORROW???

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Lady Smarz > G T July 8, YESSSSSSSSS.  TOMORROW MAY BE THE DAY.  YEESSSSSSSSSSSS

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Susan A. July 8, 2014 Modified it and said...this week.

I4U CHAT WITH WILDDUCK, 8 JULY

WILDDUCK] WCW ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING

 [ChildOfGod] WILDDUCK hi How've you been?

[WILDDUCK] ChildOfGod hi GREAT RUNNING FOR THE ROSES

[sananddan24] Wildduck hello where have you been hiding? We miss you!

[WILDDUCK] sananddan24 BEEN WORKING TRIANGUALTION TIME TO PUT ON THE TRACK SHOES

[Digs] "IF" Maliki was truly GONE/OUT OF IRAQ! It would be world wide news, just based on the way the News Agency's have been hyped up on Iraq these past few weeks.....
....
[WCW] Digs yes i agree

 [Digs] i highly doubt any "guru" has more news than Reuters, BBC, World Wide Media, etc., etc., etc.,

 [WILDDUCK] Digs OK GUESS YOU THINK WE DON'T HAVE MANAGED NEWS AND THATS WHY YOU GET FED PABLUM. 

BUT JUST FOR YOU I AM ABSOLUTLY POSITIVE ELVIS LEFT THE BUILDING AND NOW IT IS GAME ON


 [sananddan24] Digs if you noticed they have switch to Israel!

 [ChildOfGod] WILDDUCK We won't hear about it till after, way after, no?

 [WILDDUCK] Digs I WILL BET YOU DOLLARS TO DONUTS YOU ARE WRONG

 [Digs] WILDDUCK based on your track record, sure...

[WILDDUCK] Digs STATEMENTS LIKE THAT SHOW A HUGE LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD. BET YOU THINK THE ISIS IS RUNNING WILD IN IRAQ CAUSE YOU HEARD IT ON TV

 [WCW] WILDDUCK it would make me real happy if he was gone… cause this is the day i said he would 2 weeks a ago

[WILDDUCK] WCW YUP WELL GET REALLY, REALLY HAPPY CAUSE HE IS REALLY REALLY LONG GONE. ALREADY AT HIS NEW HOME

 [WCW] WILDDUCK well that s great just need rv to comfirm it

 [WILDDUCK] WCW WELL THERE YOU GO GUESSING RIGHT AGAIN

[WILDDUCK] GOTTA GO TO DINNER NOW. WILL TRY AND POP IN LATER

 [dilmus123] WILDDUCK thanks buddy

[ChildOfGod] WILDDUCK bye bye Enjoy!

TERRYK UPDATE: "WE ARE LOOKING AT A 48-72 OF THIS GOING DOWN", 8 JULY

[TERRYK] OK SHORT ANS SWEET

[TERRYK] WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL WHAT ONE OF THE SOURCES STATED
[TERRYK] IF - AND IF M IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY
[TERRYK] NOTHING TO BACK THAT UP AT THIS TIME THAT HE IS
[TERRYK] BUT IF HE IS WE ARE LOOKING AT A 48-72 OF THIS GOING DOWN
[TERRYK] IF HE IS IN COUNTRY WE ARE IN DEEP WATER WITHOUT A LIFE JACKET
[TERRYK] FOR NOW ALL INDICATIONS IS THAT HE IS OUT OF COUNTRY

TNT TWEET, 8 JULY

As the news reported Maliki is no longer the problem, he has been removed. There is nothing stopping you from getting paid. Tomorrow's call will be the most informative call we have ever had. Feel free to ask questions, they will be answered. #wearethepeople

STAGEALPHA CHAT WITH OMEGAMAN & CONDOR UPDATE, 8 JULY

Stage3Alpha:
[omegaman] July 8, 2014 historical bonds to go into play 7/14-7/20...

[omegaman] July 8, 2014 according to my intel: TRN will be LIVE in CHINA TONIGHT...

[Condor] July 8, 2014 I am in direct with the main paymaster for the Chinese government so I know a little of at least what he will say. Yes we are close. 100%!of their funds are in the bank and cleared by the UST and ready to disburse. When???? Don't know

omegaman July 8, 2014 at 5:12pm Thursday is paydirt
[2:09:42 PM] philip t.  : Tonight for admiral, tomorrow trns, and the next day gcr starts in hongkong

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 8 JULY

7-8-2014   Intel Guru Mnt Goat   Plan A was to try to get him [Maliki] to cooperate and transition and assist. He chose not to help.   They have already tried the easy way and so now what remained was execution of Plan B.  It has been activated and Maliki is now on his way to London to meet his family. He will not be allowed to return into Iraq. You may hear news contrary to what I have just told you about Maliki but believe me he is gone.  You may also be hearing rumors they may wait till August to hold a third session. This was only suggested and never officially scheduled.  Of course this is foolish since the next session that of July 13th  has already been scheduled and is now a matter of public record.  There is a very strong possibility they will not wait till July 13th now that Maliki is gone.

7-8-2014   Newshound Guru Shredd 
  Article:   "National Coalition: Sentan decision to postpone the parliament session unless the second to be held in the next week [Expanded] News Source: Ali AldhargamSection" Quote: "Iraqi National Coalition, vowed to appeal the decision to postpone the date of the second meeting with the Federal Court unless it is held in the next week."  Nice to see the urgency to meet next week. Let's see what the Federal Court decides.
7-8-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   [How long are you going to hold on before you decide to cash out your dinar?]  I am waiting for the 2014 IMF Article IV Consultation.  After review of that, I will decide.  The last statement form the IMF was later this year so I am expecting it sometime in July-Aug.

7-8-2014   Newshound Guru tlm724
   Article quote:   "After our consultations with stakeholders it was agreed to invite the ladies and gentlemen of the Council members to the meeting and the completion of the first session of the Council on 12 / August / 2014 eleven o'clock in the morning."    once again we see the Iraqi politicians at an impasse. The best thing would be for Maliki to step down and then they can fast track the whole political process. There is hope for a quick resolution.

7-8-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   Article quote:  "A parliamentary source revealed on Monday, the Presidency of the Council of Representatives decided to postpone the second session of the Parliament to the 12th of August next."    there are no guarantees of anything to do with this investments -- only that we are going to bring you the news and we are going to watch and see what happens.  they have been given a constitutional deadline to have it complete...they seem to be moving very fast in the advancements for the economy and have little desire to ever finish the political side of things -- economically they are moving fast and doing a lot ---  the political change they are having to complete is a stall in the road more than once -- but CBI has been working on a lot of changes in regulations and the move to lift the guardianship of the Warka bank and also extending many of the bank branches throughout the nation as well.

7-8-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
   Article:  "National Coalition will not attend tomorrow's session"   It appears that parliament has been postponed to August 12th.

KUE911 TIDBIT FROM TNT FORUM: MALIKI WAS PUT ON A PLANE FOR LONDON!!, 8 JULY

KUE911: My best friend has a contact in Iraq that is an intellegence contractor. He said Maliki was put on a plane for London this morning. He will not be allowed to return. whooohooo. Come on RV!!!!!

MNT. GOAT UPDATE: "PLAN B IS NOW IN EFFECT", 8 JULY

UU8631 – "Plan B is now in effect"

Hi Everyone,

I come to you today to give you a very brief update on the progress of rebuilding this new Iraq government  and how it all relates to our revaluation process of the IQD.

So what happened in this second session of parliament this week ?  I am going to tell you.

Today’s News

Today is now Tuesday July 8th already and we anxiously await to hear the results of today’s second session of Iraq parliament. Actually the results are in. We know that the success or failure of this session may determine the stability of their new government and thus how soon they complete the process to restructure their currency and complete the rollout to the international financial community.

So first in today’s news I need to explain to you why it was so important for Maliki to cause a stalling in the appointing of the speaker of the house. He is doing this stalling since he figures he can plan some scheme in the meantime but he needs time. He has already been warned not to interfere  but assist in the building of the new government. We all know he is doing just the opposite. He is being success so far in the stalling but it is all backfiring.
The other two presidency positions rely on having the speaker elected and seated first. That is why. So let’s look at Iraq's election timetable according to their constitution:

The Council of Representatives is required to elect a new speaker during its opening session.

They must choose a president within 30 days of electing a speaker.

They must nominate a new prime minister Within 15 days of the president's election,


In my last news letter I stated there was another plan in place to assure Maliki does not interfere any longer in the election process. He was already asked to leave the country and asked nicely. He serves no real purpose anymore but to stir up negativity and insurrection to the National Alliance that actually won the election by a huge majority of seats. He is doing nothing to assist in the crisis with the militants except to keep stirring up the honets nest even more.

Maliki did agree to resign and leave Iraq but then turned on the USA once again in a show of arrogance late last week. The very next day he broadcast an announcement that  in fact he would stay and try to correct the unconstitutional unbalances and irregularities in the election process. What unconstitutional unbalances and irregularities in the election process? Who is the real culprit?

Once again he used the State of Law votes from preliminary election results as his rallying point to justify his 3rd term and his need to put the new government together. He once again has found a way of twisting the truth to benefit his own needs. He has been largely ignored.

There was a plan to quietly escort him to a plane with a one way ticket to London, England (in other words deport him) if he continued his aggression and interference in the election process. As I stated in my 7/5 news later this is “plan B”. Plan A was to try to get him to cooperate and transition and assist. He chose not to help.   They have already tried the easy way and so now what remained was execution of Plan B.

It has been activated and Maliki is now on his way to London to meet his family. He will not be allowed to return into Iraq.

So how did he mess up this last session today to cause Plan B?
Directly he did nothing. What he did though was indirectly cause confusion in the minds of those trying to agree on a solid candidate for the speaker of the house. As I said previously just look at the hierarchy they must move through in seating these 3 presidencies. So he does not have to attack all 3 at once by merely the first one, the speaker. Like dominoes the others can’t also be seated since they rely on the speaker being seated first. Do you now understand his strategy?

So here is what happened. Najafi, who was running for speaker of the house once again, got blindsided when he was led to believe that if he resigned, Maliki would follow suit.  As we know, Maliki used him. Maliki did resign and even gave a resignation speech. Then just days later quickly made an announcement that he would never resign… ever.  He did this once he knew Najafi told the National Coalition nominating committee that he no longer wanted to run for speaker. Then to make matters worse, the National Coalition quickly shuffled candidates and put Jabouri in his place for his position without even notifying him about it. So at that point now Najafi and all the people that have served under him in parliament are understandably very mad and not agreeable to Jabouri or anybody else right now. Stalling once again. Good job Maliki  you screwed everyone again!

So we wait for things to finally settle down and get back to the business at hand – seat their government and do it in a non-sectarian way without the Maliki and his goons interfering.

You may hear news contrary to what I have just told you about Maliki but believe me he is gone. His fate is now in the world courts. He passed up an amnesty deal many times. He had been given many choices over the last couple months to step down and simply fade away. It was his decision to try to stick it out and continue to sabotage the election process. It is now his decision to have to go through all the payback coming to him.

I did not expect the three presidencies to be voted on in today’s session of parliament from everything I was hearing this weekend. As of Saturday it did look very promising but a call I received from Iraq on late Sunday told me what I just told you.

I would be very surprised if they even voted on a speaker with the Najafi incident still fresh on everyones mind. So there is no real progress from what I am hearing from today’s session.

The other two presidents ( the actual president and the prime minister) should follow very quickly but first they need to get the Speaker of the house seating. I do whole heartedly believe this will happen on July 13th session or an emergency session called prior to that date.  They will then have 30 days to seat the actual new president once the Speaker is seated but this will be done very quickly also.

You may also be hearing rumors they may wait till August to hold a third session. This was only suggested and never officially scheduled. See how dumb rumors spread? Of course this is foolish since the next session that of July 13th  has already been scheduled and is now a matter of public record.  There is a very strong possibility they will not wait till July 13th now that Maliki is gone.

Summary

Hopefully the game of chess continues no more. Checkmate on Malik
What will happen in this upcoming week?
Can they the “good” politicians find a way to settle their grievances.  Without Maliki in the picture, his goons too will become passive. So now he can no longer directly or indirectly influence the political process thus Iraq gets its fully seated, stable government and we get our RV announcement.

I still firmly believe that we will not see any revaluation of the IQD unless Iraq has a stable and functional government and thus has a political environment that it can advance in and thrive in.

Peace and Luv To Ya All,
Mnt Goat

OMEGAMAN UPDATE, 8 JULY

OMEGAMAN: historical bonds to go into play 7/14-7/20...

DINARDIVA: So no rv till 14th???
OMEGAMAN: according to my intel: TRN will be LIVE in CHINA TONIGHT.


Q WEALTH REPORT: HOW A MCA CAN HELP YOU DIVERSIFY OUT OF THE USD?, 8 JULY

7-8-14 Q Wealth Report: How a Multi-Currency Bank Account Can Help You Diversify Out of the Dollar?
Anyone looking for currency diversification strategies should consider a multi-currency bank account. Unfortunately this banking product is virtually unknown in North America and the UK, although it is commonplace in some European countries.

I say ‘unfortunately’, because this is one of the most simple and convenient tools for anybody looking to diversify out of the dollar. In this article, I’ll explain more about multi-currency accounts and how you can open one.

A multi-currency account is simply a bank account, with a single account number, in which you can hold balances in various different currencies. For example, you log in through internet banking and immediately you see a summary screen showing you have so many US dollars, so many Euros, so many Canadian dollars, so many British pounds etc.

Many banks allow you to hold a wide range of currencies, including more exotic currencies. Some European banks now even allow you to hold ounces or grams of gold in your account alongside national currencies.

Advantages to this are numerous:
For a start, it is clearly a very convenient tool for anyone who is serious about diversifying currency risk. Instead of having lots of different account numbers and logins, you keep everything on one convenient screen. At any time you can easily exchange your balance in one currency (or part of it) for another currency.

You can wire money in and out in different currencies, to and from anywhere in the world, without the need for currency conversions.  This type of account is therefore ideal if you frequently send and receive money internationally, perhaps dividend payments, or transfers related to an overseas property or family living abroad.

Banks normally permit you to go overdrawn in one particular currency, provided your overall ‘global’ balance is in the black.

You can have credit cards and checks linked to your main multi-currency account. Checks can be drawn in any currency. For credit cards, you normally have to choose one particular currency balance that will be debited.

Multi-currency accounts are a good, conservative way to hedge against currency risks or make profits with fluctuations. Unlike ‘forex trading’ your account is not leveraged, so there is not so much potential profit but there is also less potential for loss.

This is an easy version of forex trading – for people who don’t want to have their eye on currency rates every minute or even every day.

A multi-currency bank account also beats currency ETFs hands down. With currency ETFs you buy and sell back to your base currency, paying a brokerage fee each time. With multi-currency accounts you hold the actual currency on bank deposit, rather than stock in an ETF.

Anyone who is serious about diversifying outside the dollar needs a foreign bank account –and for many people a multi-currency bank account is the logical choice.

But what about the IRS’ Foreign Bank Account Reporting requirements?
Simply by opening a personal account like this, you will not affect your tax situation in any way, neither positive nor negative. US persons will be liable to declare foreign bank accounts to the IRS.

However, as outlined above, there are many extra benefits besides tax benefits. One of the greatest advantages, besides the currency diversification out of the dollar, is privacy. Privacy is a basic human right, which is unfortunately disappearing fast when it comes to financial services, where domestic investments are basically an open book these days.

Although you might be obliged to report your offshore multi-currency account to the IRS, private parties like credit rating agencies or lawyers who might want to sue you certainly won’t know anything about a private foreign bank account of this nature.

The multi-currency account was not designed as a sophisticated financial instrument. Rather it’s an accident of history, something that developed in smaller European countries like Switzerland, Luxembourg and Andorra where individuals commonly needed bank checking accounts in various currencies.

This was especially true in the old days before the euro when Europeans did business in many different national currencies. Not coincidentally, these countries now offer the best international financial services as well as good banking privacy.

However, in modern private banking terms, such an account can provide a basic transactional banking relationship with a foreign bank, onto which you can tag many much more sophisticated wealth management services: for example, foreign currency loans for investing in bond holdings or stock portfolios. Most banks offer such services.

Needless to say, corporations, trusts, foundations and the like can also open multi-currency accounts and in such cases there is an even greater privacy benefit, and in some cases, depending on individual circumstances, tax reporting requirements may also be legally sidestepped.

How, then, can you open a multi-currency account?
Quite a number of banks in some European countries offer multi-currency services by default, as soon as you open account. Unfortunately, especially for US citizens, it has become very difficult to find a foreign bank that will open an account.
It is undoubtedly best if you can travel to meet the bank and open the account.
Personal meetings and referrals from known and trusted parties still open a lot of doors that initial research might suggest are closed!
It is, however, possible even today to open a multi-currency bank account through the mail. Article Link –

DINAR IRAQ & DONG VIETNAM UPDATE: RECOMMENDATION TO INVEST IN VIETNAM, 8 JULY

VietNamNet Bridge – Legendary global investor Dr. Marc Faber has recommended Vietnam as a solid investment as he believes the country offers attractive opportunities in the long run.
As the keynote speaker at the Vietnam Investment Forum 2014, co-organised by Vietnam Investment Review, HVS Vietnam Securities Co. and Hong Kong-based Asia Frontier Capital (AFC), the investment guru focused on global macro-economic trends and geopolitical as well as financial trends. He also analysed the Vietnamese stock market.
“Vietnamese work hard and they have ambitions. Investors like countries with highly ambitious people,” said Faber, chairman of both Indochina Capital and the Dragon Capital-managed Vietnam Growth Fund. The investment guru has been involved in Vietnam since the early 1990s when Indochina Capital built their first project at the Furama Resort in Danang. After selling this resort, the firm then built the nearby luxury Nam Hai retreat. Indochina Capital are also investors in the Hyatt Hotel in Danang.
Faber also tipped the Vietnamese stocks as a good bet, citing their 8 per cent rise this year despite tensions in the East Sea. He added that they had out-performed the S&P 500 in the US and the Russell 2000. However, Faber remained down-to-earth about prospects claiming he thought a significant growth in value was unlikely, but there was little significant downside risk. Faber added the market was now as strong as it had been in 2012 and 2013 and as of April this year, it was one of the best performing markets in the world.
Faber and leading foreign and Vietnamese experts skirted around the issue of whether the world economy had entered the terminal phase of a gigantic credit and asset bubble. Instead, the Swiss analyst who publishes the widely-read monthly investment newsletter, The Gloom Boom & Doom Report, pointed out that universal problems affected both developed economies and emerging markets. He also stressed some of Vietnam’s strengths.
Vietnam has shown “stunning export performance,” Faber said. Since mid-2008, the export index of Vietnam has exceeded the average for emerging markets, and Vietnam’s export index now stood at about 270, almost double the emerging market average of 140.
Why Asian frontier markets?
Addressing about 500 attendees at the forum, Thomas Hugger, CEO of Asia Frontier Capital (AFC), said the first reason for increased interest in Asian frontier markets was the low correlation and diversification at attractive valuations.
Asian frontier markets offer attractive dividend yields and low price to earnings and price to book ratios, he said. “Asian frontier markets are attractively valued relative to emerging Asian countries.” For example, Vietnam’s VN Index as a frontier market has a dividend yield of 3.5 per cent. While among emerging markets, Thailand’s SET Index has a dividend yield of 3.2 per cent, Malaysia’s FBMKLCI Index scores 3.1 per cent, and India’s BSE SENSEX records a 1.4 per cent yield.
The second reason is the excellent upside potential due to high GDP growth. Hugger said a GDP growth of 6.4 per cent was expected in 2014 for the AFC frontier universe, consisting of Mongolia, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Iraq, Papua New Guinea, Bangladesh, Vietnam, the Maldives and Pakistan.
The third reason is favourable demographics. Compared to developed markets, the AFC frontier universe has a much younger population increasing at a faster rate. This supports future economic growth and consumption.
The shift in manufacturing from China is another reason. The combination of young workforces and low wages is attracting manufacturing to Asian frontier countries as wages in China increase and the workforce gets greater employment opportunities, Hugger explained. “Bangladesh and Vietnam are good examples of the shift of manufacturing from China to neighbouring countries.”
Increasing consumption is luring investors to the frontier markets, he added. “Asian frontier consumer stocks are undervalued and have the potential to catch up with comparable emerging market valuations.” For Vietnam, Mongolia and Sri Lanka, the dividend yields from consumer food products are 6.2 per cent, 0.6 per cent and 1.5 per cent, respectively.
Why Vietnam?
VinaCapital Group founder and CEO Don Lam said Vietnam was already a destination for foreign capital flows.
He said foreign direct investment (FDI) commitments to Vietnam remained unchanged. The Ministry of Planning and Investment (MPI) announced disbursed FDI reached $4.6 billion during January-May, up 0.4 per cent year-on-year.
As for portfolio investment, local participants in the Vietnamese equity markets drove the sell-off, said Lam. Foreign investors have been net buyers on the Ho Chi Minh Stock Exchange every day since April 18, the longest stretch of purchases since January, as valuations declined to a four-month low. They added about $108 million to their holdings even as the benchmark VN Index slumped 2.2 per cent.
The index has dropped 9 per cent from this year’s peak of 608 points on March 24. The gauge of Vietnam’s $52 billion stock market has a price-to-earnings ratio of 13.1, the lowest level on a weekly basis since January. That compares with a multiple of 14.8 for the MSCI Southeast Asia Index. But Lam noted that the VN Index was expected to reach 640 points for this year, up 10 per cent from February, and 27 per cent from December.
The VinaCapital CEO remarked that in an encouraging development for FDI inflows, the head of Samsung Global Strategy Group had announced that his company would make multi-billion dollar investments in Vietnam in areas other than cell phones and electronic equipment. It would diversify into the construction of thermal power plants, shipyards, airports, and petrochemical factories. Samsung was committed to making Vietnam its production hub in Asia with the capacity to supply half of global sales in cell phones.
“We project a GDP growth rate at 5.5-6 per cent for 2014,” Lam said.
New opportunities from stock market
State Securities Commission chairman Vu Bang said the number of investors in the Vietnamese stock market had increased from 3,000 accounts in 2000 to over 1.3 million accounts now, including 16,000 foreign investor accounts.
He added that Vietnam would issue a new law on securities in 2017 with a broader scope in line with international practice. All securities activities will be revised to make sure they were effectively linked with the financial market’s service sectors.
Vietnam is developing government, local and corporate bond markets, upgrading the government bond trading system via an online trading system and Bond Index, as well as connecting with Bloomberg. It is developing a corporate bond market via granting an issuance registration certificate prior to allowing the issuance of corporate bonds.
The country is also developing a standardised derivatives stock market. Bang said in the short term, derivative securities would be applied through the securities and bond indexes, but in the long term, all derivatives would be united with securities, goods and money under a single market.
Vietnam is building a shared set of indexes for the whole stock market including both stock exchanges in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, and also building a set of bond indexes.

TNT CHAT UPDATE: TALKING ABOUT MCA (MULTIPLE CURRENCY ACCOUNT), 8 JULY

F11F: Adept1 - but I just want to verify that MCA are actually out there - and if so has anyone confirmed that we can use them.repeat.... HI All - Can anyone confirm which banks have Multi-Currency Accounts (MCA's) that we can use? I'm looking for confirmations from anyone..

MH: ? ok listen to the call, looked in forum banking and general , even looked via search in forum...a caller brought up about going with brick currency and tranfering it to MCA..where is that at in the forum???? thank you in advance

ADEPT1:F1: Yes, MCAa are out there. Go call your larger banks.

F1:Adept1 - have you verified that?

ADEPT1: F1: MCAs have been around for ages. I don't need to verify it. If you have doubts, you can go verify the information! if you have been listening to the calls, you will have heard DC mention his own MCAs several times.

F1: Adept1 - I've searched on WF site and talked with Manager at a local WF and it's not easy to find - it mentions MCA's only

DAZ: YOU WILL NOT FIND MUCH INFO ON MCA'S AT THE MOMENT. THEY HAVE TYPICALLY BEEN USED FOR INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS APPLICATIONS AND TRADE...A COUPLE YEARS GO NEW REGS WERE PUT IN PLACE AND ADOPTED BY HE MAJOR BANKS TO MAKE THESE ACCTS AVAILABLE AT THE RETAIL LEVEL AS PART OF THEIR NEW RETAIL CURRENCY TRADE OPERATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I ASSUME ALL THAT POPS AT THE SAME TIME.

MH: A caller on yesterday's call mentioned advice he had heard to exchange directly into another currency - not dollars - and keep in an MCA; that way (in theory) no taxation, and if/when the dollar devalues, you will make more money when you do exchange into USD. Check the notes, which are posted.Daz thanks thought i may have missed something lol

F1: Daz thanks thought i may have missed something lol

MARKZ TWEET, 8 JULY

@originalmarkz: Where did Maliki go?........... ;)"

GUESSES TO EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL/ PICTURES CLUES AT 11:43 AM EST, 8 JULY

drh55:Maliki in London and has bought a Soccer team, confirmed
container shipments with products to Iraq mean Iraq is now accepted to the WTO!!

sunshine62: EXACTLY!!! Correct.

sean dwyer:Iraq has been admitted into the WTO?

bold n courageous: That's what it looks like, Iraq economy is going international...
Looks like Maliki is out of the picture and in London
What's confirmable is a football match.

springs: Iraq is now open to International trade.

IRAQIDINAR123 NEWS: POWER OF IRAQI DINAR, 8 JULY

Iraqi Dinar 123 News:- According to the governor of the Central Bank of Iraq said that the Iraqi Dinar is a very strong currency despite its political and social conditions. It is very important to keep the currency conditions under strict observation. The cash reserve support for the currency is 70 billion dollars which adds up to a lot when exchanged with the Iraqi dinar which is equal to 1200 dinars a dollar. The currency is strong but needs to be assisted properly to avoid the negative impacts of it on the country’s different sectors.
He further told that the reserves of the people of Iraq are not in Iraqi banks but in several other banks all across Europe. This issue causes problems with the country’s’ economy but the country comes out of its terrible financial conditions. Money laundering is a great problem which causes a lot of problems for Iraqis. It is expected that the country is being funded by the terrorist through money laundering.
The governor also said that the country holds strong relations with Middle East and European banks that majorly include the Central Bank of Abu Dhabi and the Abu Dhabi National Bank. These banks provide them with financial help for technical developments in the country.

OOMF CHAT WITH PAPAJACK UPDATE, 8 JULY

OOM&F:

[Papajack] Good Morning everybody, I spend a lot of time yesterday trying to get us some answers as to where we sit. I can only give you an opinion so I hope it helps. I will do my best to not get political.

[Papajack] First the RV is done and has been for quite some time, the world is ready, the banks are ready, everybody is ready except a group of criminals that believe we are too stupid to live on our own and should be treated as cattle.

In other words they think they own us and they have the system in place to make us nice little slaves. That is the system that the GOOD GUY's are fighting.

[Papajack] To put this into prosective we need to explain the BIG PICTURE, Religion, all religions have one thing in common, they all have a way for people to WORK their way to GOD. But TRUE CHRISTIANITY is not religion it is RELATIONSHIP and that is what sets us apart from the rest of the world. It's called GRACE!!!!
....
 [Papajack] So in order to look at this event in the right perspective we need to take a place above the storm so we can be proactive and not reactive.

[Papajack] Ever since Cain and Able there has been human conflict, the very name Satan actually means adversary. And he is alive and well on planet Earth. His time is short, he knows it and he has pulled out all the stops to drag as many souls to H&%% as he can.

[Papajack] This Global Reset will give many a chance to do good, be free, and level the playing field and that is what these criminal minions of Lucifer want to stop.

[Papajack] All of us alive today were born into this rigged system so it is not an easy thing to break. America was hijacked in 1871 when the US Corporation went into effect, it was passed the same way as Obamacare in the dark of the night along party lines and you had to do it before you can know what's in it. You all know the drill.

[Papajack] That being said let's look at where we sit today, You have to ask yourself is the current leadership just inept, and incompetent, or do they know what they are doing as the chains of oppression tighten around the throats of Americans. That I will leave up to all of you to answer but our blessing is being stalled by a vacuum of leadership that allowed the bad guys to gain ground again in Iraq.

 [Papajack] It's true Iraq has NOTHING to do with the RV, they are being used as a scapegoat for the Cabal to continue the shellgame.

As I have said before the battle is about the PETRODOLLAR and keeping the rigged system in place.

The KEY for us is the NEW ASSET BACKED SYSTEM GOING LIVE!!!!!!


So as much as I hate to say it all the delays are for our benefit. Otherwise our money would just be stolen again by the bad guy's.

[mrbiz] I just spoke to the assistant Manager at My local Chase Bank(in TX). She said she has seen the new Treasury bills. Iasked her if I could exhange $100.00 for a new Treasury bill. Again the answer was yes. So, I asked if they keep a supply on hand. She said right now they only keep a small supply. They can order a larger supply if necessary; although they woul have to order it. she was talking about ordering a large quantity of about $10K. They are limiting only $about $10K to each customer, She also said that for very large sums of cash ie; Over $10 or $20K they woul arrange for my security. IShe also said that they will noyt onlyEXCHANGE IT. tHEY WILL NOT BUY IT the Dong they will only exchange it, not buy it They will deposit the total amount into my account. They will wire transfer the total amount (without any hold) to an account I have at another bank! She said Chase will not exchange Dinar. (they do not buy or sell Dinar; however they will exchange Dong. I did not ask what the Dong exchange rate is now, but I assume it is very low. God bless ya'll....... biz

[Papajack] Thus GOOD vs EVIL, we can't just put a band aid on this.

The NEW TRN's right the currency WRONGS.

[Dreamer55] mrbiz Awesome!!! Confirmation!!

[Papajack] This will be a quick work when we do get it, we will see things like honor, integrity, and honesty again for a short time.

[Papajack] There are GOOD GUY'S working behind the scenes on our behalf and we will GET OUR BLESSING!!!! And yes there are reports of the TRN's showing up that just tells us how close we really are.
 
[Papajack] mrbiz is right.

[Papajack] Then you all need to be careful and protect it, like Abraham you will have to beat the birds off of your sacrifice. Blessings all.

CARDEN & PDDIDDY : MCA ACCOUNTS ( MULTI CURRENCY ACCOUNT), 8 JULY

BOOGIE BOOTS: Has anyone found a second tier or any bank for that matter that provides MCA (multi currency accounts)? Called Key Bank yesterday. They say online they have multi currency accounts but when I called they said you can only hold multi currencies within a trust. Even when you speak with someone in private banking it's mainly a deer in headlight response. Nobody seems to know anything about MCA non-interest bearing accounts. Any thoughts?

CARDEN: Use the phrase, "I am involved in currency trade." That's what these MCA (multi-currency accounts) are used for. The MCA (multiple currency accounts) are not found in any USA banks unless the bank was specifically established with an international focus, such as working across the border USA/MX or USA/Canada (http://www.tdbank.com/investments/private-client-group/private-clie...


(http://www.scotiabank.com/gls/en/index.html)  orUSA/China (EAST/WEST BANK There are banks that are branches of the internationally-based banks that facilitate this for business owners doing business in USA. The MCA (multiple currency accounts) that Exo has discussed with Wells Fargo is the only bank I have found that has this facility now. 

I would talk to WF... JMO


MIKE ZONAZ: About the 800 numbers...do we need them if we are going the MCA route? I don't think so but looking for you thoughts. Thanks

PDIDDY: Yes, from my info not every bank will have been trained in the rate & NDA signing process... so the 800#s will direct you to the closest institution that has been trained, will set an appt to get you in and out..

If you want to use the MCA plan then you'll just need to do a quick search to see if they offer it. I plan on using WF and I know they do... but I will be calling the specific branch prior to my appt to ensure they are well versed in using it and what I am planning to do.

STAGEALPHA CHAT WITH PDIDDY: SHORT Q & A, 8 JULY

J. DAN GREG: I have direct intel on this WF rumor, I assure you it is nothing more than a distraction started by someone that will profit from such false information.

NICK FLEMING: The International Branches of Wells Fargo are actually doing exchanges along with the World Bank. I know because I am in the middle of one such exchange. If you want to call me a liar that is your problem. Live with it

PDIDDY: See Nick... this is why I love you! I don't care what Gymrat says about you behind your back... youre my boy blue! Lol!


As do I, I do not see how one would profit off such a story if it were... instead of concentrating on the one piece of info you "feel" certain you have so that your negative position can be relevant, lets just focus on what I hope we can agree on (if you are as well informed as you say). That being, that this is over, the last obstacle was removed.. and we're about to cross this RV/GCR goal line.

DEENA HEWSON: Pdiddy are you sure that Wells Fargo really had  some "Friends and Family" cash out over the weekend? Have you spoke to anyone who did? ( I don't want a name of course.) But I would like to know if you have spoken to a person directly that cashed out. Not just heard that people did through your contacts. Because there is a guy J Dan Gregg who is swearing that nobody cashed out and that is was misinformation. He claims to have "inside information" on this. If you could answer this I would be very grateful!

PDIDDY: Gov VIPs and yes some WF F&F. However none of that matters because we're about to now... this will be an amazing day... the first many amazing days moving forward!

LUCKY7: so in your opinion, IF an RV happens today. Can I or a friend go to the bank and exchange one note to get my reserves? And would you, go to the dealer, wire from the dealer, get a check from the dealer?

PDIDDY: I would answer you this way.... if it were me....I would take the note you have to a bank that has MCAs.... open up an MCA acct by exchanging your dinar note into (Swiss/Aus/Yen etc). Wire funds to your financial institution holding your reserve and (if they offer this) have them convert it into the currency you have in your MCA and wire it into that acct thereby avoiding it being converted into USD at any point in that process... IMO (disclaimer Lol)

SEAN DWYER: Anyone have any confirmation yet the our good friend Nuri has been escorted to greener pastures?

PDIDDY:  Yes.... can't say any more... but the answer is yes

JEFF PEACOCK: "TakiyahSpears -Just heard on open mic call that Maliki has left Iraq!! And is on a plane headed to London!! Oh God thank you!! GO RV!!!"

PDIDDY: Almost dead on.......but better... He already landed...

TFSHERLOCK BANK EXPERIENCE FROM TNT FORUM, 8 JULY

Tfsherlock:At Wells Fargo Branch office at in Antelope, Ca.  In talking with the bank manager about foreign currency, I ask her if she could take a peek at the exchange rate for the Dong. She replied, "yes we can do that".  She kept staring at the screen
saying "something has to be wrong".  "My Wells Fargo Screen is showing 1.28 USD for one dong."  "That has to be wrong."  I said,

"No, it could very well be right".  She seemed  startled and went to the internet for other exchange information before I had a chance to have her print the information on the Wells Fargo Screen that showed the 1.28 USD for one dong. The internet screen showed the .00005
USD, I believe it was , for one Dong.  That is what the screen showed.  Another Screen showed .00004 USD, for one Dong. 

 I ask her to return to the screen that showed the 1.28 USD for one Dong.  When she attempted to get the Wells Fargo Screen back up, she had a problem.
She seemed very surprised.  I'm still shaking my head from this experience. 

 Please believe me, I think this happened to me for a reason.  

I'm a very skeptical person at times, besides being born and raised in Missouri, later moved to California, where I live today.  I'm finally beginning
to believe in this RV/GCR event. Take it for what it may be worth!

Dharr:Thanks for the bank story. We are getting ready to get off this amusement ride. Just remember the story about the first mouse, second mouse, third mouse. $1.28 will be a first mouse exchange rate. As Pam said, you have been educated, use it!