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Monday, July 7, 2014

GUESSES TO EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL , 8 JULY

Mr. Chen:Things/packages are being shipped or transferred electronically.
In Iraq right now, next parliament seating/meeting is 13.
Wells Fargo under pressure for Friends and Family exchanging for cash. Cat is out the bag on this one, supposed to be a secret.
J.harv:YES!! Cargo Ships have been loaded and en route to port. 

The Cargo is being unloaded dockside from the ship and containers are being unloaded. All are filled with electronics delivered to Iraq right now.
Next Parliamentary sitting is July 13th.
Wells Fargo is putting the pressure on for Friends and Family group to exchange... or WF is under pressure for F&F group  exchanging.The cat is out of the bag.

CONDOR INTEL, 8 JULY

CONDOR: Wells Fargo friends & family exchanged over this past week end with the public (us) to begin exchanging today (Monday). Maliki needs to resign & immediately afterwards it will go public & we can start exchanging.

 US dignitaries are in Iraq to convince M to step down. Iraq people are protesting in streets for M to resign & for their currency to revalue. 

If the public exchange must happen on a week end then the 13th would be a logical date. If it doesn't have to happen on a weekend then it could go at any minute.

 We were supposed to start exchanging on Monday after WF f & f. It is still Monday so do not give up . Could still happen today or tomorrow .

DINAR IRAQ & DONG VIETNAM UPDATE, 7 JULY

There is a lot of conflicting intel and articles regarding the confusing political and security situation in Iraq and how it all impacts where we are right now.

 From what we see, we can safely assume that they WILL NOT allow Maliki to continue as Prime Minister because they have made that perfectly clear.

 We can also assume that, based on Kerry’s personal visit and the urgency of his message for the acceleration of the forming of the government, that the PTB want this done sooner rather than later and that they are much further along in the process, politically, economically and security than we are being led to believe for obvious reasons that include keeping the wannabe dictator off balance for what is to come.

 So from this, we can safely assume that we are definitely in the end game process of the entire plan which culminates in the RI/RV of the Iraqi dinar.

PDIDDY TIDBIT, 7 JULY

7-7-14 PDiddy: Remember they were in the middle of releasing this when "M" popped his head up and started acting like a power hungry crazy-Ivan, reneging on the deal he had.... they (I believe) have gotten "M" neutralized and contained... so let the button be pushed baby!!!

Btw, having WF be half way thru their Friends and Fam exchange is AWESOME!

Because they can't take it back, you can't be half pregnant... that's the best sign that they can't pull this back and say "no exchange but VIPs". If "M" is out of the way, then we're there peeps!

I'm not stupid or ill-informed.... and I’m getting giddy like a kid right now... it's like NYs Eve waiting for the ball to drop.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 7 JULY

7-7-2014   Intel Guru TNT Tony    [via Adept1]   A lot of things are happening. Some...are saying the sky is falling, this will never happen... There have been holdups;  this should have gone last week and it didn’t, but that is not the end of the earth.  The rates and structures being set up now are for our benefit.   Senior delegates from the US are over there now, in Iraq right now to get it right so that this can go forward.  It could happen today, tomorrow;  everyone is expecting it at that time.  After the final agreements are in place, it will be anywhere from a few minutes to a couple of hours. 

7-7-2014   Intel Guru TerryK
    I'M HEARING TWO THINGS M [Maliki] IS GOING TO BE THE PUPPET PM YET THERE IS ANOTHER THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT TO BE SET.   KINDA SAME BULL AS LAST ELECTION.  A [ALLAWI] WON LAST TIME AND M [MALIKI] WAS PM.  ANOTHER WON THIS TIME AND M [MALIKI] TO BE PM.

7-7-2014   Intel Guru EXOGEN
   SO NEEDLESS TO SAY THERE IS MAJOR TROUBLE IN PARADISE SO MY PEOPLE CANNOT RULE OUT THAT THIS COULD DRAG ON PAST TOMORROW AS THEY ARE MEETING AGAIN AS WE SPEAK IN A DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW WHICH IS VERY MUCH EASIER SAID THAN DONE. WHAT THEY DO RULE OUT IS THAT IT WILL BE TILL AUGUST 12TH OR THEY WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN NOTIFIED TO CHANGE THEIR SECURITY PROTOCOLS ALREADY.   [post 2 of 2]

7-7-2014   Intel Guru EXOGEN   I HAVE SOME NEW CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE MAJOR DISAGREEMENT IN THE MAIN MEETING OF 2 MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD YESTERDAY.  ONE WAS HELD AT JAFAARI'S OFFICE...THE OTHER AT HAKIM'S RESIDENCE.  THE JAFAARI MEETING WENT RELATIVELY SMOOTH BUT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AT THE MORE IMPORTANT HAKIM MEETING.  SEVERAL BREAKDOWNS HAPPENED.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

7-7-2014   Newshound/Intel Guru Arthur
   There is a lot of conflicting intel and articles regarding the confusing political and security situation in Iraq and how it all impacts where we are right now.  From what we see, we can safely assume that they WILL NOT allow Maliki to continue as Prime Minister because they have made that perfectly clear. We can also assume that, based on Kerry's personal visit and the urgency of his message for the acceleration of the forming of the government, that the PTB want this done sooner rather than later and that they are much further along in the process, politically, economically and security than we are being led to believe for obvious reasons that include keeping the wannabe dictator off balance for what is to come. So from this, we can safely assume that we are definitely in the end game process of the entire plan which culminates in the RI/RV of the Iraqi dinar.

7-7-2014   Intel Guru Flashing
   ...Iraq is very close to reach that goal and we are just waiting for the release. The information i have received is promising and we should be very happy during the incoming days.  You have to look with special glasses all the information being provided by the press as of now. Why because of security concerns?  All the real information is classified and will not be released until they take care of the dictator...based on  my information it is about to be done...so be positive and have your plans ready. you are about to have a big surprise.

7-7-2014   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG
    I am thinking the world will not let Maliki continue endangering the bulk of the oil supplies and reserves of the WHOLE WORLD over his "power lust" - I don't see where they can... he's put the whole Middle East in jeopardy... and I don't see how they (everyone) will let him keep "Gerry Mandering" the whole process.

7-7-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   the kurdistan region has designed a currency of their own to go along with many statements that they may demand the right to be their own state.  Barzani has held a press conference stating that he is polling the citizens to see if they are for an individual state or against it -- this would of course imply it would be democratic.  the move to become a nation on the flip of a dime (no pun intended) is not a normal act ---- it would require many many laws and regulation changes and constitutional changes etc -- the earliest date i have seen it as being possible is 2017.  [This is posturing by Barzani? And this talk changes nothing w the CBI?]   i would say it changes nothing with iraq's economic reform and is meant to show how serious they are about Maliki.

7-7-2014   Intel Guru TerryK
   [what are you hearing?]  WE ARE TO SEE THIS ANYTIME.   I'M JUST A WAITING ON A CALL.

7-7-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
    The [longer] this continues the more damage is done.  And this is a setback.  In reality, If Maliki squats, and the violence escalates we could be looking at a year or more to restore what had been accomplished prior.   I wish there was better news..but this is not good news and we all need to be aware and should watch it closely as it is significant to our investment.  I am keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for the best!  [post 2 of 2]

7-7-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
    Article:  "Political blocs warns of blocking the formation of the government for "a long time" because of the insistence of Maliki confirms: Star is not the most likely candidate"    Maliki has set the stage...stating he will not give up the right to a 3rd term which is really saying.."I am not leaving no matter what"  unless toes up.  The reality is everyone...nobody wants to admit it, but this is a real bad situation...not only for Iraq but for us as investors...when these types of events happen (terrorists taking over a province) or Maliki (refusing to leave)...the end result is not only an escalation in violence but the destruction of years of hard work rebuilding the infrastructure. 

THE MEAT OF TODAY'S TNT CC BY DALLASDIVA, 7 JULY

  1. Everyone is very frustrated - Malaki is the reason -he is a loose cannon and is trying to keep his power by some clearly despotic means.
  2. He IS the hold up.  He was tolerated before July 1 by our country but NOW he is a severe problem.  Cannot be eliminated by drastic means in this situation.  They are trying to negotiate and deal with him to get him to leave peacefully.  At the end of every deal, he has backed out or out maneuvered the dealmakers including the last one from today.
  3. TNT notified on this last THURSDAY that the RV was scheduled for 4th of July weekend or soon thereafter (like now) but Maliki pulled a "Maliki" and caused this last delay (TODAY)
  4. There is a delegation there in Iraq right now from the USA eyeball to eyeball to "talk" to Maliki to get this resolved and finished once and for all.  His family has been "escorted to 'safety' " to get him to face reality - that he's OUT. 
  5. DC RECEIVED A CALL DURING THE CONFERENCE CALL SAYING THE MEETING WAS A SUCCESS AND WE SHOULD BE SEEING THIS ANY MOMENT, THEREFORE, THAT THIS SITUATION IS FELT TO BE COMPLETELY RESOLVED. 
  6. WF bank is trying to help select employees with a new program called "Friends and Family"group that started CE this last weekend - (friends and family of WF employees)!! The list of these people was created back in Feb and March.  TOO LATE TO GET ON THIS LIST NOW - DON'T CALL THE BANK ABOUT IT.
  7. At least 1,000 got paid out this weekend from some groups - but was stopped due to us not getting paid like was PLANNED  and employees called their friends and family and dinar sales skyrocketed.
  8. Now here in the USA, there is a lot of concern about too many people buying too much Dinar esp. on reserve from the WF Friends and Family group and this might directly affect their Rate - they don't want "trillionaires" 
  9. 800#'s therefore DID get disseminated but not authorized for general public - YET.
  10. Group rates are predetermined and are likely to be lower rather than higher. Tony still not a proponent of the Groups. 
~DallasDiva~

TNT CC NOTES, 7 JULY

TNT TONY CC (Notes by Adept1):

Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#


http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventID=57426420

http://ds1.downloadtech.net/cn1086/audio/17579794832101-001.mp3

Tony:   Good morning, TNT!  Today is Wednesday, July 7th, 2014.  We already have 24,000 people on the various call lines, and 6,000 or more on the internet.   We are here on a Monday again when we should not have been. I heard a lot of stuff over the weekend and the chat room was crazy, but it was a holiday.  Sometimes you have to go through it to get to it.

Today is a better day.  A lot of things are happening. Some gurus are saying the sky is falling, this will never happen, M is hanging on, etc.  That is why I sent out that tweet saying the sky is NOT falling.  This is still in development and will happen sooner rather than later. Everything happening in Iraq, everyone who wants you to believe this will never happen… they are not talking to anyone over there, they have no connections, they are just telling you something they read or saw on television. They are making it all about civil war and tanks and such in the various cities. They are focussed on the turmoil.

Go open a newspaper, or onto Google and read about the US.  In Chicago, there were seven people killed and 50 wounded – in one city!  That does count the other big cities, not even New Orleans which is like the wild, wild west. You didn’t wake up to that this morning.  That’s news, in just one location, but you get all excited when 19 people were killed in all of Iraq. Those idiots don’t get theatre when it is right in their face.  I could go to a 9th grade history class and explain it, and they would get it.  This is not the first time this has happened. They manufacture this when they want something to happen or a distraction.

There are definite positives. There have been holdups;  this should have gone last week and it didn’t, but that is not the end of the earth.  The rates and structures being set up now are for our benefit. I was upset, but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen until November or next year.  There’s a lot of information and things going on;  some is classified, and some is public. DC will tell you something of why I didn’t happen Thursday.

DD: It is absolutely driving us crazy that this didn’t happen Thursday.  Hang on, another call from Iraq.  We are all frustrated. :The easier explanation is that M pooped in our punchbowl.  It was scheduled to go on Thursday evening, all set up for the three-day weekend, everything was set up, and M didn’t get on the plane.  He got passive-aggressive and made everyone extremely nervous.  His parliamentary deal ended on the 14th of June and he’s still sticking around because he like power and he has a few people afraid of him and allowing him to keep power.  Everyone wants him to go away, but he keeps sowing up. They are afraid to make a move until he has physically left the country.  He is has been messing up the announcement of the new PM, and also trying to put relatives in power.  He is acting like he is PM, but there are two other candidates who will do a good job;  they have plenty of support, with 240-250;  all the ministerial positions have been set out and everyone has agreed to support them.   They are ready to go, and we are waiting on M to vacate the PM’s office. The whole world is waiting on one guy to do what he said he would do.  Quite simply, M can be such a hindrance to the stability of Iraq, if he continues to make trouble with ISIS and their generals. It’s not a very stable environment.  The US didn’t mind him causing issues before 1. July, especially those who wanted it to stall until then.  Now everyone wanted it to happen around 1. July and it’s now gotten out of hand. How do you deal with a guy like M?  You can’t just do bad things to a foreign citizen and former PM.  You can only offer deals like the one he’s supposed to be taking, with him and his family moving to London or Iran.  If that happens, we are home free in a few hours or a day.  He is such a destabilizing force, that really needs to happen. It’s like taking the bad apple out of the class, and letting the class settle down again.  That’s what is happening with M right now.  He was supposed to leave last night, and now today.  There are some motivating factors to getting out of politics.  M has outmanoeuvring everyone, and I will not under-estimate him until he’s gone.

Tony: They have made all kinds of deals since 1. April, and M has accepted a whole bunch of deals, and as it came time to execute that deal, he recorded announcements, and at the last minute he pulled back every time.  His guys started the uproar in Iraq, but it got out of hand with the guys from Syria.  He thought he could control it and be PM again. That happened time and again, waiting on him to do his announcement, up to Thursday, with everyone on high alert – even we were put on high alert – and it didn’t happen because M decided he was not ready to go.  This is the last offer, and to make sure he takes this one, they are moving his family to safety, so M knows that they are not joking and he had better do what he’s supposed to do.

There is a meeting going over to Iraq to make sure that all sides understand the agreement.  They are over there now, senior delegates from the US  at in Iraq right now to get it right so that this can go forward.  It could happen today, tomorrow;  everyone is expecting it at that time.  After the final agreements are in place, it will be anywhere from a few minutes to a couple of hours.  This will be the stabilizing factor, because rich people don’t fight.  They need this done quickly, with a new PM in place ruling Iraq as it should be.

This is why they have been scheduling it and then having to back off. On Thursday, people around the globe were put on high alert, ready to go, until he did what he did in the last hour. There have been meetings to set this up this week.

We have an issue giving you too much information, and so is the government and the banks, but the dealers love it. The closer we get, the more people are buying dinar or large reserves. They had issues with that over the weekend; they want people to have money but not trillionaires, so the fact that people are buying dinars at this rate is bothering them.  If too many people buy now, that may cause them to change the payout – you may be messing up all your reserves by doing that at this time.  That is being discussed today.

DC:  I think we have covered Iraq.  In the good old US of A – bottom line is that everyone Is ready and they are aggressively eager in getting this done NOW.  They have been less than supportive in the past, but now they want to get this done.  There are groups… but let me talk about plans to deal with the general public and the dinarians.  They have already cashed in some because of family or political connections over the winter.  We have at least 4.5 million folks left, and about 250-500 thousand are paying attention.  Those people, who Pam calls dinarians, are the big concern. The others will trickle in on their own timeline. The latest plan is to have the group help handle the situation. You’ve heard of the General’s group and the Admiral’s group, and now these are part of funnelling people through this process – how to get the NDAs, and how to get people receiving as much money as they can. The vast majority of us want people to get the most money.  A few don’t want that and we will let them sit in their own pool of pestilence.

There is also the ‘friend and family’ group concept.  WF is the prime selective bank in order to process this.  They are the main guys on the interface between the UST and the banks, and the one with the Bank of  Ireland to deal with tier 2 banks.  They have  group to reward the WF employees who have been beat up pretty badly, the ones who have been dragged through the mud on this.  So WF has created a friends+family (F+F) group for their employees and others, depending on rank, that they can bring in.  WF is trying to make up for the sacrifices they have made and also it’s a way of handling the groups.  Part of what they have been gearing up for is bringing F+F in first because they know how to follow directions.   We don’t want to make anyone mad but to shine light on what’s going on.  The F+F was supposed to start on the 4th through this weekend, expecting the RV to happen sometime before today.  So they would be in the first wave, because they are the most controllable and forgiving.

Tony:  Employees themselves still cannot have dinar, though.

DC:  Most employees have had to sign contracts about that, NOT to buy any more dinar.

Tony:  There are over 300 groups out there.  I have always told you that I would not be  part of a group, because many are crooked.  WF and UST know it and have targeted them for after the RV. Some have made you turn in your dinar with lies and promised about how you will get paid way before everyone else, and so on. There is at least one legitimate group, the Admiral’s group – I saw the contracts – there are some others out there who have removed or identified the leaders and people don’t even know they won’t get paid when it gets done.  They lied to you, they are making commissions off you, and some think they will made a trillion dollars off those commissions.  Some of these groups are for 50, 95 cents or for $1.50 and so on.  Some are being paid 6-7 dollars.  As a private citizen, when this goes to Forex, it is very likely to go over that 7 dollars, and anyone who takes these lower rates will be seriously pissed off. Some say that if they can get $3, they will be happy, but then don’t get mad later if it goes significantly higher.

All those people are already done, they gave up their dinar, and they don’t have to worry about them.  They are worried about US.  It’s about the first, second, and third mouse getting the cheese. WE expected the RV to be announced on Thursday night, Friday morning, getting the package and talking to you about it, and you would be in the bank today. That should have happened, and again Maliki pooped in tthe soup or whatever. He messed it up and now we don’t think this will happen until they resolve that situation. They could forcibly take M out, but that would cause other issues. They want him to walk away of his own will. It is time for this to happen, and one man cannot hold up the entire world because they want a smooth transition.  M still thinks a third term is possible, and they are not going to allow that, so they are over there now to show him reality. If they cannot convince M, they are going to convince everyone around M that it’s time.

DC:  Word is those talks are being successful.

Tony:  We are in a good space, and we want you to understand what is really going on.  As we were briefed, you should have been scheduling your appointments.  Some folks did go through, they were F+F related, and at least 1,000 went through. They stopped that process yesterday.

DC:  They were supposed to do tens of thousands per day, and they only did about one thousand. They paused that until they know what is going on, and they are concerned about it.  That’s what I got, my friend.

Tony:  Everyone is ready to go, geared up fro this weekend, with alerts and security and all the rest. Hopefully this time it will go all the way through.  The general concern we had this weekend was too many getting reserves or buying, and that may cause them to change the process again.  Who does this make sense to?  You are going to get people in, pay them thousands and millions, and you expect word not to get out?   Just between us, the 800 numbers are already out there, we just don’t have authorization to release them.  I do not understand these smart people who don’t seem to understand the general public.  They are so smart they don’t look at what the common people are going through. They are used to corporate;  they need some ordinary people to say “that’s never going to fly.  As soon as this gets out, there will be a firestorm!”  They get made because I get the phone calls afterwards, but the reality is that they screw up over and over again.

DC:  There are basic common sense questions we need to ask.

Tony:  They are saying that it would go over the weekend, but it didn’t go, so now where are we?  Let’s just get this thing done!  You guys who are not part of a group, it ain’t “all that”.  I won’t be able to talk about it afterwards, but you will see what happens.  It was there way of getting people done all at once.  There are groups who will only get 50 cents, and you will be pissed off, but at least you will be paid, I guess.

I’m good because we are only waiting on one thing to be done.  As DC said, it should be a couple of hours or a day at most.

662 caller:  So it’s once someone steps on that bug, right?  I don’t have my receipts;  is that going to be a problem?

Tony:  I’m not sure you will need them at a bank, because currency is currency.  I have all mine.

Caller:  Are all the denominations of dinar and dong accepted?


Tony:  Every one of them, so far as I know.

Caller:  Is the Zim still in the first basket?


Tony:  I don’t know. The price doubled last time I said something…

DC:  Yes, it’s in so far as we know.

Caller:  You said about Maliki being gone and new PM coming in;  does that have to happen first?


DC:  All it requires is for Maliki to settle.

Tony:  Up til now it was not a priority, but on Thursday, M did something that made it a priority.

DC:  M really pooped in the punch bowl, we got way out of whack, and everyone said M had to go.

Caller:  Why don’t we have the package yet, so we can be prepped?


Tony:  We don’t have it yet.  If they gave us the package and we were going over the package right now, what would you do?

Caller: What you’re saying people are doing too much of right now?


Tony: That’s right – they told their friends and family, they all started buying dinar, and they shut it down again.   I say, “Are you crazy?  Of course they are buying dinar!”  Who wouldn’t?

Caller:  My bank president told me to put “POD” or “pay on death” so that there are no problems if there is an accident or whatnot.


770 caller:  Do you know if the contract rates can be offered by Sterling?  How will they handle reserves?  Thousands will have this issue.


Tony:  No, they only do market rate;  the contract is not with them.  Their goal is to get everyone done in 72 hours.  If you cannot get to the bank within that time, I don’t know what the banks are going to do.  They were supposed to give you the contract rate if you tell them how much you have in reserves.  We were put on alert on Thursday, and so were many F+F people, so of course they went off to buy reserves.  Of course!  We are not going to be in that situation, so hopefully they will stick to t he original plan with our reserves.

Caller:  You’ve had Frank on the call before.   Do you know if they plan to change their reserve policy over a certain amount?  If it’s changed to something that is worth a tremendous amount of money in USD, that might change the plan…

Tony:  That is still their plan, so far as I know, that you pay off the reserves and they will ship it.

Caller:  Online it said that it might be better to convert not to USD but to a BRICS currency and then put it in an MCA, for various reasons.  Does that make it a non-taxable event?


Tony:  I don’t know.  I know Sterling will convert it, if you choose. Ask a tax attorney about the tax situation.  It sounds good to me.

DC:  In general, you will only get taxed when you bring it into dollars, and you can also use it to defer taxes. There are a million ways to skin that cat;  a tax attorney will know more about that.  Another idea is to simply buy gold with your dinar or dong, and then it is not a taxable event because you cannot spend gold.  Unfortunately, the UST caught up with that one and changed the law on this and other clever possibilities.


Tony:  They listen to these calls and change the law.  If you put these funds into a MCA and the dollar devalues, then you can make more money in another RV.

Caller:  I have no problem paying the taxes at all, with everyone working together to improve things.  Even if we have to pay 50% in taxes, that is still a windfall.

Tony:  It’s still better to have 50% than nothing.  Here in California, I’ll have to have 57%, but it is what it is.  In MLM I would hear, “I don’t want to make that much  money because I don’t’ want to pay the taxes.”  So you want to have nothing so you don’t have to pay taxes?  That doesn’t make sense to me.

832 caller:  Just a second, I’m completing my last reserve order…. <laughter>  If they are working on groups, why is TNT not considered a group to go through the system first, work out the kinks…
Tony:  I’ve always been against the groups because the way they were getting people to join the groups was using fear and threats.  I didn’t like the fact that these guys supposedly had a lot of dong and dinar, but they wanted the highest commission, and I don’t like that part. I didn’t want to be part of groups saying 50 cents is the most you can get, and everyone else won’t be paid for two years and such.  If I wanted to put together a group, it would have to be a minimum of ten dollars. So they were working on that because they were trying to just pay groups at that time, not the general public.  I was trying to protect you guys.  But when they came back and said they would exchange the public, so I stopped doing the group.  Those other groups would come in  at less than that rate.  We don’t have a group because I don’t want people coming back and saying “Now Tony is getting a commission”  and so on.

Caller: You have a group that is capable of getting through the process efficiently, that’s all.

Tony:  I told you guys a long time that if I were you, those groups wouldn’t even have your email address, because they will sell that list to others, and they you will have people sending you emails, phone calls, all the  rest. The worst were the groups asking you for your drivers license, passport and so on. That’s crazy, sending that to someone you met over the internet.

Caller:  The small powerful group that had been a challenge to us, are they now in support?


DC:   Yes, they are extremely active and frustrated.

Caller:  Is long-term capital gains classification, is that part of the tax rate consideration?


DC:  We don’t know.

Caller: Will there be an NDA on contract rates?


DC:  We understand that you will sign an NDA on anything over street rates.


Caller:  If you have more than 50 mil, is RayRen the man with the plan (trust and such)?


Tony: There are some limits and there are some structures being set up.

Caller:  Is there a back wall with the Maliki thing?


DC:  Because of M’s mess, Iraq is boiling, and that’s not a good state to be in for very long.  There is no way they will allow everything to go to hell right at the end just because of this smart despotic man.  Our understanding is that everyone’s patience has run out, and it’s time to take action.

Tony:  There is a small group of people in DC that was always in support of you/us being treated fairly when the RV happens.  The contingent that is ready for it to go today is the entire government, because it is past the 1st and it met all the requirements.  The only thing needed now is calm.  After what happened Thursday, they definitely don’t want M to have access to this kind of money.  On Iraqi television, they are protesting because they want their government announced and their currency revalued.  If that gets out of hand, that would work in our favour, because they would get rid of M even faster.

301 caller:  Are these F+F people those already with currency?  Or they are being instructed to buy currency?  I heard you say that the employees cannot purchase any more currency…


Tony:  I don’t know.

DC:  Some of the people in the call centers had to declare the amounts that they have.

Caller:  Are the people in the groups going to be offered the highest rate?


Tony:  No, they will get the rate they signed up for.  They may think they will get the highest rate, but they won’t.

813 caller:  If feels like we are going to be punished for these people who decided to call in last minute and put huge reserves on hold, and now they may change the plan for us.  We have endured all these calls for years, and now someone else did something and…

Tony:  It should not change for us;  it might change for them.   If they send appointments out for groups for (say )Thursday, and they went out and put in for reserves, that would be ludicrous.  We are not in that situation;  we will know right after it happens.  Maybe they stopped it for the F+F group.  The reality is that maybe they saw that they made a mistake there. That should not affect us.

Caller:  If M agrees to leave but does not leave after all, is there another plan in place?


Tony:  His family has been moved to safety;  maybe there will be water on the steps.

Caller:  On the Internet, it said that the Parliamentary meeting is postponed for a month.


DC:  The meeting has already occurred and they are in agreement.


Caller:  The RI was passed and then there should have been 2. July, what is happening there?

DC:  We are in the wild, wild rest as to how they are applying normal logic and laws.  This is a free-for-all and they are using all sorts of measures and justifications.

Tony:  We know the RI has already been signed off, and on June 17 it went international, trading behind the scenes. On 1. July, it was on ISX and it is official there.  The only thing we are not seeing is the general public being paid. Nothing needs to be done apart from M being removed or not threatening his people over there, being safe to carry on. The meeting happened this morning, and you have information that it was a success.


Caller:  I’m sure I speak for millions with the frustration with people losing their homes, and such.  What you guys do is so helpful, and I don’t want to sound ungrateful, but enough is enough.  This guy is a cancer and he needs to be cut out and put out  to sea.


Tony:  We are not officials and we can’t do anything….

DC:  … but we are extremely frustrated with the situation.

Tony:  On Thursday we were getting calls to get ready and we were ready with a call schedule and all the rest.  It’s on, it’s off, up and down, and we get frustrated.  We say “One guy can’t hold up the whole world” but apparently he is! There’s nothing we can do about that.

Caller:  Days or weeks?


DC:  Days or hours, in my opinion.


818 caller:  If feels like our chain is being pulled and we are being flushed down the toilet.  We had a back wall back in December.  What don’t I see or don’t I get here?


DC:  One, back walls don’t really exist. It’s too fluid a situation, and nobody has the authority to say it will get done by day X.  That’s not how this is working;  since many years, they have invited too many people to this party and some have a veto vote.  We have so many players, they constantly change the game because of their own political and personal agendas.  Everyone is now aligned to get this thing done, then M pooped in the punchbowl.  But if ‘gurus’ are saying it won’t happen until mid-September, they don’t know their head from a hole in the ground.  Anyone who says a specific back wall date does not understand what is going on. It’s changing on an day-to-day level, with geo-politics and major egos involved that all want to have their stamp on it.

Tony:  You weren’t supposed to be involved in this anyway. They had to adjust the plan because we found out. Everyone who was part of the plan to get paid was paid in December or January. We were never supposed to know about it!   Guys over there and politicos knew, and that was supposed to be the benefit.  You are not supposed to have all the information we’ve giving you.  We are sharing it with you because we have it and that’s our job.  We weren’t supposed to be here, and so we’ve change the plan.  We’ve added to their burden and they are still figuring out how to deal with us as we grow.  When they give people 72 hours notice, then it is really going to grow.  Those deadlines where someone saying they have changed the plan to, and this is the next date we are going to try to get it done.  M was supposed to go away in April, take credit for it and walk away.  Now we are in July and he’s still there.  That was not part of the plan either.  Now we are hours or days away according to the meeting that happened this morning.  [DC agreed.]

Caller:  My daughter is a senior VP at WF, and I didn’t get a call this weekend.  She knows I have dinar.  I’ve talked to them in SF and they know who I am.

Tony:  Are you saying it is not happening because you didn’t get a call?

DC:  The folks who got a call was because someone submitted you on a list for dinar in WF. Only the people involved in the dinar process were involved in a list back in March.

Caller:  She was not aware of it.


DC:  Some senior execs were told about the list and then told to shut up about it.  The folks in the call and exchange centers, and the execs in charge of handling this were told about the list and given the chance to make up for being messed around. So if you weren’t on that list, you weren’t getting calls last week.  It’s about verification that you are in that F+F list.

Tony: They were supposed to go at the same time as the general public, just getting notified a few days in advance. How can you call people and tell them they were going to be a millionaire, and not expect they will call everyone they know?  They were not under NDA at that point!  I don’t know who thought that plan up!

Caller:  My daughter was told in March that she was not allowed to buy any foreign currency at all.


Tony:  She could have bought any of them and stumbled on a lot of money.   You hear about the dinar and dong, but other currencies will revalue, too.  That’s not what they want, for people to stumble on currencies that will make them millionaires.  By the way, don’t call the bank asking to be on that list, or running to someone who works there – if you don’t know by now, then they didn’t know or you aren’t on their list.

202 caller:  You talked about some deal on Forex where people were given 20 or 30 days, and if it didn’t RV, they would still get the higher rate…?


Tony:  I don’t know.  I’ll have to look into that. Pam, could you put that on your list?  Thank you.

Caller:  [appreciation]  Hopefully this RV will happen and I can stop being a teacher and do other things.  A few weeks ago I lost my home;  I know people are frustrated, but we need to pull on our big-girl or big-boy pants.  We just have to be ready and it will happen.

Tony:  I’m sorry about your home.  At least we have a safety net and a future – we don’t know hen it is going to begin, and we have an opportunity that most Americans don’t have a clue about. Even when we lose, we are still winners. The best revenge is to live a good life.

Caller:  I completely agree.  What about the RI?


DC:  It happened, and that is what they are using to justify the groups.


Tony: They loaded their cards in Iraq, and they have let them know again that they have the strongest currency in the region, and how they have saved the world?


Caller:  Will the RI pop here in the US or it is the RV for us?  Could we cash out a little bit with the Ri?


Tony:  That’s why they are not announcing the RI separately.

Caller:  Why does M keep flip-flopping like this?

Tony:  It’s a chess match;  every move counters a move.  Up until checkmate, a different person has power.  When you get there, you change your strategy.  He thinks he has power, he asks for more, then he’s on the bottom again.

DC:  Maliki is a very bright man, but he also craves power.  With his background, that rules the way he governs.  He operates, thinks and acts like a guerrilla fighter.  He strikes, steps back, lets everyone else make their moves, then he strikes again. That is a stupid way to run a country, but that is how he does it, doing something fierce and unexpected, then holding aback to see the results.  That is very different from a person who is used to running a country and an economy.  Usually that takes a steady hand, but M has taken the opposite approach, and that has caused a great deal of unpredictability.  Nobody knows what is up or down.  He pays attention to what the US is doing.  For instance, when Obama’s approval rates were high, Maliki did whatever Obama told him to do.  Now that Obama’s ratings are lower, M pushes the US harder.  He overplays his hand a lot, and now he has done so many horrible things that he has to do. He was supposed to go by 14th July, and the parliamentary deadlines keep getting passed.  Now we are trying to get everyone back in line.  But Maliki is still acting like a guerrilla fighter.

Caller:  He is a smart man;  hopefully this last tactic will work.  If you were me, what question would you ask today?

DC:  I’m drawing a blank because we are putting it all out there.

Tony:  DC is giving us the information, even about this meeting this morning.  We would not have brought up that F+F thing but we were all getting calls.  That was their list, and we were all supposed to go to the bank together this morning.  Even today, many idiots will say that we are wrong and the information is wrong, but they don’t know everything.  We don’t know everything!  The government over there can do all sorts of things we may not like but we have to live with.   Put them on your ignore list, and let’s continue to laugh at them.  We are giving you what happened in the last 72 hours, which actually we knew on Wednesday evening.  We didn’t tell you because it was supposed to come, and if we had told you, everyone would go buy all the dinar they would buy, and then they would have stopped it anyway.  They would have said we cannot do it now because security is at risk and everyone is lined up at the bank. You guys can buy all the reserves you want;  that’s not their concern.  They were concerned with people being told they had a specific appointment time, and then going out and buying more serves.

Today you got more in-depth information upfront, and everyone listening knows we talked to someone this morning.  We knew would be an issue to be addressed on this call.

DC:  We are doing a very logical step-by-step process and the way it goes.

Tony:  This is coming to an end.  We can’t say an exact date or time, but we know we are that much closer.  You can’t get better than DC telling you he already got the results from the meeting.

Caller:  If it were a scam, why would you be on the phone three days per week?

Tony:  If you could spend a day doing your own research on how many times this has happened in the past… then you would know this is really real.  Do your own research;  talk to people in Iraq.  Find out for yourself instead of waiting for someone to hand you something.

Caller:  I tell my students we have to do our own research and then make a better educated decision.  There are a lot of emotions, but it will happen.


Tony:  That’s right.  It was supposed to be last week, this week it should happen.

Pam:  You forgot that this is the time of the month bills have to be paid.  If you appreciate what you are hearing and want it to continue, please help.  Go to www.tntdinar.com and make a donation.  You don’t have to be a member to donate.  There is a DONATE button right on the front page.  Was that a little blunt?

Tony:  That time of the month?  What?!  We thought this was done last month, hopefully this is now the last day. We’ll do or we won’t do it.  Anything else you want to say, Pam?

Pam:  Be nice to the Mods.  SoReadyForIt is back, so say hello to her.  You know more than you think you do, take your time, and make sure you have a team of professionals.

Ray:  It’s that time of the week.  Enjoy Marvellous Monday and look forward to Terrific Tuesday.

DC:  We are waiting for Maliki to depart the scene after he has done some rough stuff that caused frustration fro a lot of us.  We understand that meetings have occurred and everything else is geared up to take  place immediately after that… maybe a few hours after.

Tony:  The sky is not falling, the dinar is not coming to an end, and Iraq will not be overrun.  Some idiots are trying to get you to sell your dinar.  Remember, there were 7 deaths and 50 injuries in Chicago alone over the weekend, and the US is not coming to an end.  In Iraq, 19 people and some explosions, and everything thinks it’s civil war and this won’t happen for ten years.  They have been putting that in the news for a reason;  we are supposed to know better. At least four times in July alone, they have had everyone at their desks ready for this to go. They paid some people over the weekend in anticipation for paying you today!  Maliki messed it up Thursday night, but it is here, it is live, and we are just that close.  Hopefully we will get the packages and start the training once it is announced, because they just experienced what happened when they did that before.  They will not give us that information while the dealers are still selling.  Hopefully we will be back later today or tomorrow. We are in a good position;  we are just that close.  Enjoy your day! 

OMEGAMAN SHORT INTEL, 7 JULY

Omegaman:TRN'S to be announced TUESDAY...per my Platform Intel...here we go RV..

Prime:Sounds like your intel platform is different than Tony's & DC's.

STAGEALPHA CHAT: ZIM & ARBITRAGE--HOW TO PLAY IT?, 7 JULY

KUDU70: In the intel a couple of days ago at 5:51 clues suggested the following:
"Look for clues of the quiet plan for the Zimbabwe shuffle (removal of zeros).  Big difference in ROI between 6 or 8.  
Don't be fooled.  Overload on currency for arbitrage then diversify your assets ASAP."
Can someone give some thoughts to the games that can be played with the Zim by the PTB? How we should play the game to make the most for ourselves?  Are the clues of the Zim and arbitrage connected or just listed next to each other?  Thanks.

CARDEN: DEFINITION OF ARBITRAGE: the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset.

Consider the "lop" of ZIM. What if they lop 9 zeros and your ZIM returns hundred's of thousands versus millions of dollars - this is the difference in a nutshell. What would be an arbitrage move here? Well, clearly we've read that there will be a "second basket" (in 30 days or so) and the currencies we know about (IQD/VND/ZIM) are all also believed to rise/float. An example of arbitrage in this instance can be demonstrated as this: you started with a thousand or so USD and bought your currency. This currency sells for a large amount.

 Some portion is set aside for an arbitrage play. For instance, take the hundred's of thousands of dollars from ZIM and buy another currency such as PNG Kina. Or, take the millions from IQD and buy more ZIM (which is projected to be in the 2nd basket again). Etc., this is "arbitrage" of your currency.

MRT: A little bird told me that the Zim will start out sounding like a great ROI. But will even get better as time goes by. So don't jump the gun on this one. We'll have to see how it all plays out, but this is probably a good sleeper.  I wish I knew more about the Loas Kip. Cause I think it's a sleeper too. Keep that one on your radar.

SUNSHINE62: If you will follow those comments, they are all on that spot.

OMEGAMAN & SQWATCHY INTEL, 7 JULY

OMEGAMAN: according to one of my intel sources...800 numbers are shortly, within hours, to be given out.. PREPARE PEEPS, WE ARE OVER THE GOAL LINE...

SQWATCHY: Don't know about tomorrow...but you  wont be working Tuesday!!

EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL AT 12:26 PM EST, 7 JULY

WHAT REALLY TOOK PLACE IN IRAQ-DIRECT INTEL 12:26 PM EST TODAY

Posted by EXOGEN on July 7, 2014 at 12:26pm

OK....FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE GET TO THE INTEL, LET'S EXAMINE THIS ONE UNCORROBORATED ARTICLE ITSELF. THE FIRST THING YOU DO WHEN READING ANY IRAQ ARTICLE IS CHECK THE VALIDITY OF THE SOURCE.

 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ARTICLE, IT SAYS, "The MP said, who declined to be named."  WHENEVER YOU SEE THAT IT IS A RED FLAG OF SORTS OUT THE GATE.  IT ALSO SAYS, "an official statement in this regard will be issued shortly."  SO UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, ITS JUST AN UNOFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM AN MP.

THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE SOME NEW CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE MAJOR DISAGREEMENT IN THE MAIN MEETING OF 2 MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD YESTERDAY.
....
ONE WAS HELD AT JAFAARI'S OFFICE...THE OTHER AT HAKIM'S RESIDENCE.  THE JAFAARI MEETING WENT RELATIVELY SMOOTH BUT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AT THE MORE IMPORTANT HAKIM MEETING.

SEVERAL BREAKDOWNS HAPPENED.  APPARENTLY, NAJAFI GOT BLINDSIDED IN THIS WHOLE DEAL WHEN HE WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT IF HE RESIGNED, MALIKI WOULD FOLLOW SUIT.

AS WE KNOW, MALIKI JUST LAUGHED AT HIM AND QUICKLY MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT HE WOULD NEVER RESIGN EVER.  THEN TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, THE NATIONAL COALITION QUICKLY PUT JABOURI IN HIS PLACE FOR HIS POSITION WITHOUT EVEN NOTIFYING HIM ABOUT IT.

 AT THAT POINT NOW NAJAFI AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERVED UNDER HIM IN PARLIAMENT ARE UNDERSTANDABLY MAD AS HORNETS AND NOT AGREEABLE TO JABOURI OR ANYBODY ELSE RIGHT NOW.

THE SECOND PROBLEM WAS BARZANI'S PEOPLE AND HAKIM'S SUPREME COUNCIL NOT AGREEING ON WHO TO PUT UP FOR A CANDIDATE BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT THERE IS A DE FACTO AGREEMENT THAT THE PM HAS TO BE A SHIITE AND FURTHER THAT THE SADRIST AND OTHER BLOCS ARE AGREEING THAT IT WILL BE FROM THE SOL NAMELY THIS NAJM CHARACTER THAT IS MALIKI'S RIGHT HAND MAN.

SO NEEDLESS TO SAY THERE IS MAJOR TROUBLE IN PARADISE SO MY PEOPLE CANNOT RULE OUT THAT THIS COULD DRAG ON PAST TOMORROW AS THEY ARE MEETING AGAIN AS WE SPEAK IN A DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW WHICH IS VERY MUCH EASIER SAID THAN DONE.

WHAT THEY DO RULE OUT IS THAT IT WILL BE TILL AUGUST 12TH OR THEY WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN NOTIFIED TO CHANGE THEIR SECURITY PROTOCOLS ALREADY.
SO THE DAY IS YOUNG AND THE INTEL IS ONGOING AND FLUID. 

WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT BECOMES OFFICIAL AND ALSO SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF THE INSIDE INTEL FROM IRAQ BETWEEN NOW AND TOMORROW.

LINDA57 POST FROM TNT FORUM: ZEBRA01 INTEL CONFIRMED!!, 7 JULY

LINDA57:I'm just passing this along...I don't need dumb comments...it is what it is.
Take it or leave it...I prefer to at least HEAR these things cause MAYBE,
just MAYBE they are true!!! Anyone know who zebra01 is???
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zebra01 wrote:
I don't post much, but I wanted to share something with everyone.
A friend that I shared the dinar with called me last night and told
me a friend he shared with has a friend that is in a executive
position at Wells Fargo in Florida. She called him to tell him they
got their 1-800 numbers yesterday!
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UPDATE: zebra01 has CONFIRMED THIS INFO!! WOOO WHOOOO!!