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Monday, May 5, 2014

WENEEDIT POST FROM I4U FORUM: INTEL, 6 MAY

[weneedit] OK this is my intel. I work for FedEx my buddy also, He delivered dinars to this well of lady for the last few days and asked her are you new to this? she said no I knew about it for about 4 years. She has a friend in the Iraq Government who sai ok get into it now. They should release it after the election if final, makes no Diff. who wins. just sharing

TNT CONFERENCE CALL, PART.1, 5 MAY

TNT Call 5-May-2014 Notes

The call started at the usual time. I have omitted most of the chitchat.
Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  It is Monday May 5, 2014.  We were quiet over the weekend.
Clearly some people don’t understand, there is a lot of confusion out there. Some keep assuming you are getting the same information, which you are not. 
As TNT, we are one of four groups that they will give the information to explain things tot you and do the calls.  There are actually three groups, and DC and myself. WE have the inside information for the process and are setting up the phone calls and such.  We know parts we are not telling because they may change, and we have questions ourselves.  We made some phone calls this morning, so they can understand that the more information e have the smoother it can be.
We know things are going on behind closed doors from people involve din the process. I feel very good about it, and the RV can happen any moment. Decisions are being made as we speak.  We got calls this morning to put pressure and to threaten people with things we know we can do, but I’m not in threatening mode because I hear that they are trying to do the right things.  If they were doing the wrong things or trying to exclude as from the process, that would be different.  I want our government to do what they are doing, so long as it’s for the People and not for greed.  I am hearing some things I’d never thought I’d hear or be involved in, and many people would be surprised at.
There are some issues, and Mtn Goat gave us good information about the details, and I have both sides of that argument, too.  We have to look and do the best thing for ALL of us, not the one or two demanding this happen at 8am this morning or 10pm last night.  I cannot start a firestorm because people are mad this hasn’t been paid out. Others are not being paid out, and we are getting more than three dollars, which we were concerned about.  We are still here, and there is no point pressuring them when they are doing what we campaigned for. There are issues, and there are common sense arguments.  We were part of the problem – I gave you guys too much information on the process, the future of the US economy and the GCR.  Now they are trying to fix that, and if I look at it from their end, I understand that they had to make adjustments, and because the RI came out when it wasn’t supposed to.  They are making adjustments today because of the information we already have.  Most who are looking to do things in the future understand what I’m saying. They want to fix those issues now rather than the future.
We are still in a super-fantastic place.  It’s just A decision that needs to be made, and they have been meeting for the last four days, and it makes sense. If I told you what it is, they would scrap it and start over.  I could tell you my plan post-RV, and that is also part of the issue.  They can stand me doing that, but not 200K or four  million people doing that.  We knew that all along, and that’s why I told you that if I was too open, they would change the plan – shorten the time, the rates, whatever. There are some knuckleheads on our forum who clearly don’t get how a global plan works, and they are only concerned about their plan with their people.  That’s not how it works.
DC:  East to West… we are getting a similar but not identical deal to the last couple of days.  Frankly, things look immensely close, and we don’t want to risk putting out some information and then people use that as an excuse to delay this even longer.  That’s been the excuse several times in the past.  Everyone’s in lockdown, ready to go, and we’re not going to be the guys to mess that up.  Things are extremely geared up and looking immensely positive and we don’t’ want to mess it up. 
There ARE guys working against this, and by transgressing laws and agreements, they are crossing the line.  Politicians have some room to maneuver, but you still have to abide by laws.  We have been here before, yes, but there is progress and we got very close to the finish line.  ON Friday, someone took two-three steps back after our call. Therefore the info may sound the same but it is changing as well as to the players and what they are doing.
Tony:  We’re frustrated, but the banks are frustrated, too.  They are tired of getting all their people ready, bringing them lunch and dinner, and they have asked US to help put pressure on the decision-makers because they are tired.  They said we have the ability to do this, and certainly we know the laws and what’s going on.  I don’t want to threaten anyone… but DC might tell!  We are this close, nobody wants to cause a problem, and let’s just get this done!  They are trying to get it done – let’s just get it done! Everyone is ready, in position, certain banks have moved to our side because it’s now costing them money and upsetting their people.  So now everyone is saying “Just do it!” and we’re there.
DC:  East to West:  In Iraq the elections are being counted, still a couple days.  The folks who will probably be in power are negotiating for position.  They are acting with level heads, doing the right kind of agreements and deals, and that is a sign of democratic maturity that they are doing this.  They won’t announce anything until the final elections, but it’s looking good.  Parliament is calling for the budget and RI to be announced;  the two major blocs are in favor of the RI being done yesterday;  they are very ready.
In the US, the IMF and UST are on lockdown, getting ready to do some thing, reconfiguring last minute things that might have changed the plans.  We won’t know until the final things but it all looks very positive for us.  We are in the same position as Friday with everything ready to go at any second.  Everything has been done and we are waiting for execution now.
So… Tony and DC… we’ve been here are 1,000 times, so what is different?  Frankly, the indicators are subtle. The RI was declared nine days ago, and that is hard to ignore when you’ve already agreed to accept it. Everyone is pressuring them to accept, and the RI is the big factor.  Many of those fighting are now on the other side of the law, and their attorneys are advising them not to obstruct it.  The opponents are now backing off and also being watched closely.  Some have been told to their faces that they are being watched and recorded, and that info will be used against them if necessary.  If they try to break the rules, they will get disciplined.  The shenanigans will be straightened up.
Tony:  Up until now, they have been ducking the law, and from Friday they have been told that we are following the law.
DC: Correct, and they are running a pretty tight ship now.  They scattered before, but now they are getting the agreements done in a disciplined way.
Tony:  We have an RI.  Even thought people were told in advance, nobody believed them.  Reality is setting in.  They are doing this, and there has been no attempt to rescind it because it’s already been signed off.  So they are having to act on it.  Because we have to react to something that wasn’t in the formula, then we have to change the formula because something new was introduced. That is the argument or issue right now, how, when or where to do that in a way that is best for all, in the big picture.  I want to explain this so that sensible people will understand what is going on.
The Mtn Goat issue is that MG wrote that they will release the names and evidence if this is not released by Friday.  Some say they will go on Hannity or wherever. Hopefully it won’t be an issue by Friday.  I don’t mind what they do;  I hope they know exactly what is on the table and what they will be affecting if they do.  Otherwise, they will cause a whole lot of trouble.  I think we are at the best opportunity to get what we were trying to do.  We cannot control the exact moment, date and time, but we might influence it.  I want everyone to know we are in a great place.  Hopefully they will make that decision today.  It didn’t make sense before, so I understand.  It’s nothing against us, Senators, bankers or whomever making more money;  we don’t hear about them paying anyone out at this moment. [DC says there were a few tests, but not otherwise.]  We are in a great place, and I don’t know anything about Mtn Goat going public on Friday.
Without a doubt, are you confident in who Mtn Goat is, DC?
DC:  Yes, I am.  I do.  But I was told not to give out a gender.
Tony:  Everyone has the right to their opinion, and some of the info is absolutely right.  I’m not getting into an argument with him/her.  I think I’m doing the right thing, and I’m not compromising our position at all, but this is a global event that is not about us.  It’s not about our rate and how we get paid, but about what happens afterwards and how it can be manipulated.  I don’t want that, at least not on a global scale.
352 caller:  If Obama every loses J Kearney [?], you should take his position, Tony!  It bothers me that you see this as a chess game, because then the slickest guy wins… Are they slicker than we are? 
Tony:  Maliki is a pretty slick player;  he changed the whole board.
Caller:  When you talk about pressure, is that about the US or elsewhere?
Tony: In the US.  Giving credit where it is due, some people only look at their own positions, and others look at global events.  With China and their plan, I was talking with some lobbyists, going through some steps in the process, China looks at fifty years minimum, and more often one hundred year programs.  Other countries go want the immediate gain.  Then other people look at their country/economy and how that’s going to be affected, or the global economy.  God looks out for babies and idiots!  Some people on our own boards clearly don’t care what happens to our economy or the global reset --- they don’t think beyond their own bank accounts.  If DC and I only did that, we wouldn’t have these calls. If you want to have your money more than two years, then you have to see that it’s bigger than you, and you need to learn how to deal with the bigger picture.
Caller:  The BBC has said a few things, but not a peep on our side about this happening. Why is it not being discussed?  Should we be afraid or what?
Tony:  Our news is censored.  They did leak it out at 2.30am, so they could CYA and say that they made it public.  They don’t want more dinarians, so we are not going to see it in the news or talked about so that people can get a head start.  Common sense tells us that they are figuring out how to cut you off from the rest of this.  That’s their job, and our job is figuring out how to get us staying in. With five million dinarians, and maybe more in the dong, or the GCR, and if they move that like they are talking about… things have to change.  They don’t want to create or allow even more multi-millionaires, especially the idiots on the sites and the chaos they could cause.  So we are not the direct reason, but we are a factor in how they are looking at this.
DC:  We’re in this bizarre position where we matter when we do, and when we don’t there’s not much of a consideration. They don’t want us double-dipping… but they also don’t want us to stir up Twitter again and threaten to burn everything down.  It’s a costly moving deal, and frankly our calls will change based on the hour they are doing it.  If they were doing this Saturday morning, it would be in a different phase.  It looks like they are trying to get it done.  It’s more like Go than chess, really.  That is much more of a group sport, and this is as well.
Tony:  It is coming to an end. The countdown has begun, and it will come to light.
903 caller:  We ARE the people!
Tony:  Yes, we are, and we’ll always be the people, now and afterwards.
Caller:  There are many who don’t get on these calls because they have to work.  I hear them ask why hasn’t this come to pass…  Many are hurting financially and physically.
Tony:  I understand that we all need this ourselves, as individuals.  I understand there are groups who say we deserve this, and they are fighting to make sure we get this because of what we have gone through.  I cannot call the RV or I would have. The decisions about the rollout and what they are doing now… I agree with their positions and it’s what I would do.  As someone concerned about countries and economies, I would do it, but I’d make the decision instead of second-guessing this.  The good thing is that we are down to the last minute.  Decisions are being made over the weekend and today for the future.  We are done with this event – the RI caused that – it’s just about announcing it, and how do you do that?  It’s caused a bigger issue.  I don’t know how else to say it, because there are things I’m not supposed to tell you.  We are in a good position.
DC:  I am not going to be the idiot that someone will use to say “we have to stop this because these guys are able to game the system”.  I don’t have to identify the idiots; that may come out later.  I’m just going to hold my tongue.
Caller:  You said there was a glitch within the system?
DC:   No, there was a process decision that was stopped. There was a synchronization issue a while ago, but that was fixed.  I’ve got to get off for 15 minutes for a call.  We are not threatening anyone;  things are looking really good, and we are supporting the process.  We are very, very hopeful.  I’ll be back.
818 caller:  You keep telling us to go out and do our own research, and a lot of us do.  Then you told us about the BBC report.  No one can find that on the forum.  When and where was that?  Can you post something that will lead us to that story? 
Tony:  Let’s ask for help on the call.  Several people called me and said that at 2.30am they were watching television and MSNBC reported the recent BBC story.  Could those people go on the boards and post the dates and times on the forum?  I know that they planned to do it this way, two days before or after we already got it, about going back on the gold standard.  Things are happening in the early morning or they are being hidden from the public.  That’s the best I can tell you.  Because they put things out like that, like the UN putting out what Iraq required to re-instate their currency, I saw that with my own eyes, and then I couldn’t find a link for it anywhere.  But we know it happened.
Caller:  Can you tell us anything more about reserves, and the banks?
Tony: The story was not put out in public on the web, although it’s on record. Maybe that’s why you guys cannot find it!  I do know the banks have a plan, and I have seen variations.  When we get the packet, we’ll go over that plan for all the banks.  If for some reason they don’t, go to a bank that does!  Right now, it’s my understanding that the reserve plan will get you two visits (if you have reserves).
Caller:  From the last call, someone said there was an end date. Can you tell us that?
Tony:  We’ve had end dates and windows before, and ti always has gone past.  We understand that there is a date when something will happen, or before.  But our understanding is that they are following the law from this point, and anyone who does not  will be dealing with the law after that point.  I’ve gone before believing what I was told.  I do understand there is a date and that is why they are rushing to get this plan out.  They are making sure everyone knows what the law is, and forces are clearly at work here.  I just want to get it done and let’s get on with our lives. So I’m not going to tell you the date.
I tell everybody everything all the time, and if we have an issue/problem I’m definitely going to tell you that.  This is not our issue;  the formula has changed because of the RI, and they have to make some changes.  We need to look at the bigger picture…
731 caller:  My situation is that I live in a big, beautiful home, with a Mercedes and thousands in my bank account.  The good Lord has blessed me.  But I have friends, and a son who is a staffer with a highly ranked member of the Congress. I think some are in a much better position than I am, and they could help us.  I get upset at the idea that people are trying to cut us out.  There are evil-doers trying to stop or delay this… since Friday, DC said that we took two steps back. If we knew who these evil-doers were, maybe our friends could get in there and help us.
Tony:  Let me explain.  The reality is that the world is not perfect or fair, and neither is the government.  Right now, we have five million people involved where only fifty thousand were supposed to be involved – Congress, good old boy network, etc.  Out of those five million, there will be 10-20,000 billionaires in our country alone.  Most have over a million dinar, so they will be instant multi-millionaires, and if we get the highest rates, those with 100K will be millionaires.  If they all turn around, and if the dinar comes out first, then they will have heaps of money.  If they then go out and buy dong, they will be even richer.  The numbers will not sustain that.  The NDA was designed to stop us from going public, not from buying more currency.  So they had to change the rules for those with ten million or more.  If they let so many become billionaires, what does that do to the rest of the world?  That doesn’t work in our country, much less the rest of the world, especially if our citizens are the only ones to get the highest rates. They have to get the timing right…
Caller:  They were supposed to do this in December, and they still haven’t figured it out?
Tony:  I am on the dinarian side, to make sure we get what we were promised.  They didn’t expect the RI, but it changed the game.  It changed the formula. There are other issues than us to be considered!  I keep telling you this, but you aren’t hearing me…  As far as we are concerned, the rates are locked in, and we are in a great position. There are other things being considered that I don’t have anything to do with.

TNT CONFERENCE CALL, PART.2, 5 MAY

Part 2
303 caller:  This law you’re talking about with everything having to happen within ten days or whatever;  whose law is this?
Tony:  I don’t know, but I understand that they are all paying attention to it.  As it’s dealing with international currencies, I imagine it’s international law and they are bound to adhere to it.
Caller:  As dinarians, we do understand the global picture better than you give us credit for.  We do understand the benefits the world is going to reap.  It’s hard to concern yourself with all that when you are trying to put food on the table.  Both sides have mucked this up, and that is where the frustration comes in.
Tony:  Yes, some understand, it’s just the idiots on the board. We ourselves are in a great position.  I know who we have backing us in DC now, who and in which positions are backing up, I know the basic timeframe and the format, and I’m saying we are winning.  People who are complaining on the sites saying this call is the same as every other call, that is not true.  It is fluid, but people are coming to do final decisions and if we put all that out on the board, it’s going to affect the process.  Some people asked us to burn the house down.  After we talked about that on Thursday morning, we got a call that gave us the missing piece.  They told us the drop dead date, and what they are trying to get accomplished.  I’m not going to tell you that date but the count down has begun. 
DC:  Yes, we were on the half-inch line weeks ago, but we go knocked back.
Tony:  We were waiting for a decision, and I clearly told you that the RI has changed everything they are doing.
Caller:  They’ve had 12 years to think about this, and they didn’t consider that as a possibility?  Maliki is sneaky, surely they know that.  Are they going to keep  moving the cheese?  All we want to know is that there is a finality to this process.
Tony:  I’ve answered your question several times already.  I cannot demand they do something different;  I am not in the boardroom or meeting room.  I can tell you what’s happening this moment and what’s trying to be accomplished and that’s what I’ve told you.  They understand your level of frustration.  They are concerned about us, but we’re only one part of what they are concerned about.  They are also concerned about our economy and what’s going on in the world as a whole.
Caller:  [More of the same frustration]
Tony:  So what you’re saying is that we shouldn’t give you information?  I can see both sides because I’m getting all the information.  If they do something against us, then I’ll tell them it’s wrong. That’s not where we’re at.  We’re in a great position.  We’re ready to go as soon as they are ready to go.  However, I cannot guarantee that in today’s meeting another two countries won’t come in and say “we cannot do this or that”.  But things are changing in our favor, and we are closer than ever before to give you the 800 numbers.
404 caller:  There was a legal declaration of an RI that occurred on the 26th, correct?
Tony:  Was that the date?  Yes.
Caller:  And there is a time period under which that has to be shown to the world, right?  And now the rush seems to be about what to do with an RV or GCR?  If the RI is not honored, then there is a legal problem, is that correct?
DC:  You summed it up nicely.’
Tony:  But that doesn’t have anything to do with us.  They’re not trying to hurt us in any way.
Caller:  But it does have an impact on us.  The RI has to occur.
Tony:  That is what we are hearing.
919 caller:  You said last week that if the RI or RV was not announced by 1st May, that would be ‘not good’. 
Tony:  It has changed because the election results came out differently than we expected.
DC:  Maliki wanted to be the guy who declared the RI, and so he did, and it was a very good move by him.  What that did with the elections is that if he did NOT declare an RI before a legal time when it would be brought into question, it would be brought into a period interim government and that would delay it all again.  However, right now, they are handling themselves well.  They have a timeline and they are trying to get that done. Part is international pressure, and part is the maturity of the process.  Therein lies the issues they were worried about.  IF Maliki and the five power-brokers were not elected correctly, they would have to make change to get the power brokers on board. They also looked at what the US has done since June 27, they no longer trust us, and they felt there should be punitive damage.  Maliki acted on his own, with gumption, and he did a last-minute deal that locked everyone in.  Now all the countries accepted the RI, and the international community are locked into key deadlines.  They messed up one because they tried to adjust it again.  Now they are being very disciplined and keeping it within the law.
Caller:  It’s like having a gun control law that only affects law-abiding citizens while the criminals are free to do what they want.
DC:  The fact that many of those opposing this have been advised to stop fighting and call it a win.  Some delayers were doing it for stupid power politics;  others had humanitarian interests.  A lot said that they were not going to break any laws, so we are in a great place.
Callers:  There is phone etiquette. I’ve heard many cutting off Tony and DC.  We are not here to hear you, but to hear them, and if there is time, they will let you rebut at the end. Ask your question, close your mouth and let Tony and DC answer.
363 caller:  What are the rates and dates?  <laughter>  My actual question is about the RI itself.  There is international law;  can or will the US get past that or what?  Usually the US makes and goes by their own laws, sometimes making it up as they go. 
Tony:  Uh… DC will answer that in a minute.
DC:  I’m not an attorney.  My understanding is that the US is prepared to follow those rules.  TheUS has ignored rules before, for sure, but it’s their intention to follow these because they are big ones that people are not prepared to mess with.
Tony:  Since the weekend, people have been notified that they are being documented and recorded and watched.
DC:  Our allies are telling the US that they were supporting us before, but we are past that point.  We are way past the line and it needs to get done now.  The US is not stupid and it will not be left behind, and the rest of the world has told them to do it or be left behind.
Caller:  I keep hearing the 15th and the 30th are important dates for currencies.
Tony: Those are the usual dates for changing the UN operational rates. However, this can change any time.
615 caller:  I’m frustrated, too, like the earlier caller.  That’s why our country’s in the shape it’s in, and in debt.  Is there any chance of zeros getting lopped off the dinar or dong?
Tony:  NO.  Don’t worry about that.
Caller:  I’ve heard rumors of the dong not going to RV at all…
Tony:  That has been part of the discussion.
Caller:  Is Nashville an exchange city?
Tony:  I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure it will have some place to exchange.
DC: Nashville is definitely big enough;  some banks there are already well-briefed.
Caller:  The people stalling this in our government, why are they still involved in the process if they are knowingly stalling this?
DC:  Some are in elected positions and in powerful appointed positions.  They have some authority  in their specific tasks, and they have been using that in extreme cases. Why are they still fighting it?  That’s the big question.  Some have their own wants and needs, and some are doing it just because they can.  The law and history will judge them harshly because what is done in the dark will come out in the light.  Many others in government at all levels are pushing hard to get this done now.  Just these weasels have been blocking this, and we will let history judge them.  If they decide to throw this crap on us again, we will rethink our position then.
Tony:  I want everyone to understand that we are the people.  When we started this, we had people giving us information.  If that happens, we already have our contacts who are in the meetings, etc., and they will let us know right away.  I will then be the first to have a call and put it out on Facebook and Twitter. If we find those things are going on, we are prepared and ready to do that.  But right now we are working with who we need to in order to see this through.  We won’t start an uproar unless we can make a difference, and if we can, we’ll get that information.
Caller:  You said something about who they’re going to allow to be in future currency exchanges….
Tony:  They brought in new laws a year ago that you have to be qualified investors.  By M doing the RI the way he did, that changed the formula.  Could they still do it? Possibly.
Caller:  I’m behind you all the way, whatever you need.  Let’s get this done!
Tony:  When you look at reality, you cannot give five million people a million dollars and let them do this again.  The original plan took care of that, but the RI threw a wrinkle in that and they are now making decisions around that.  [DC agreed.]
830 caller:  I’m very grateful for what you are doing.  You don’t owe us anything, and you don’t have to answer to us.  People need to put on their big-boy pants and not give their frustrations out on the call.   DC said he’s going to go with the best rate out there.  I don’t get how I can shop that rate with only one appointment.
DC:  Our understanding is that we will be given a choice (while the choices last) of different rates with their pros and cons.  I’ll look at that, see what the best results are after taxes, and I’ll go with taxes.
Caller:  After this RV, there is supposed to be a ten-day window… is that right?
DC:  I think we are too close to talk about that.
Caller:  If the RI happens, the contract rate still comes into play, right?  How does that really work?  Does the RV has to happen first?
DC:  We understand the contract rates are still there although there may be some adjustments in the name, rate and procedure.  A higher rate will be offered. 
Caller:  Tony, you say this will come to an end one way or another?  What’s the other?
Tony:  We are trying not to upset the apple cart, there are some people who wanted us to do that today.  They are sending me message right now. If we found that was the truth, I could do another call this afternoon, and I think they are aware of that.  We’re going to rely on the guys who made things happen for us, who put us in our position. DC said half of them want us to burn it down and half are saying it’s okay, just do what you’re doing.  Every country signed off on the RI.  CL said the US and the IMF have agreed a rate.  The call I was on just before this call said there is something happening in our monetary system.  It’s all going our way. If one person continues to hold it up, we still have the power to change that. Because of this wrinkle they did not expect, the law is taking over from now.  We’re in a good position, and hopefully this is happening now.
Caller:  I think you are doing the right thing by sitting back and letting it take its course, because otherwise they might change the plan again.
Tony:  We are so close to a final decision being made and we don’t’ want to stop that. If it doesn’t get made, we have some choices then.
302 caller:  We really appreciate all you and DC and the team do for us.  Our frustration is for our country.  They should have had a contingency plan.  Also, if the VND doesn’t go, then we are not getting all we want.  And if they have a concern about moving millionaires to billionaires, why weren’t they concerned when they exchanged people earlier?  All we want to do is go out and help the people around us.
Tony:  When they exchanged people before, they still thought it would be an RV, most people didn’t know about the dong or other currencies, plus they planned on dinar and dong going together, so there couldn’t be any double-dipping.  Because they had control, they never imagined Maliki would ever call the RI. He sensed something was off, and he made his surprising move to take care of himself and his country.  No matter what, that money now has value, and from M’s perspective, he did what was right. The US tried to control this up to the last minute, and it didn’t work out like that.  With the RI, the other currencies were not included, so they have to work out a new plan to deal with those currencies and those of us who hold those currencies.  There are options and they have to see how they affect our economy and the global economy.  Will it work out for us?  Yes, even though it upsets some others.  It will work out for us, but we don’t’ make the call for the global economy.
DC: Eventually the entire system will be revalued, and we don’t know if that will be now, soon, separately or together.  Will they do it now?  Or play catch up later?
Caller:  With all that they’ve been doing and all the excuses, will they ever allow us to let us go?  They could have prevented a lot of this happening if they hadn’t played all these games.
Tony: You’re right!  Al lot of this could have been prevented if they had released it in December, or when they said they would, on April 1st.  Now they have some really hard decisions to make.  As far as we are concerned, the RI is there, the rates are there and the opportunity, and they just have to figure out when it happens.  We got way more in depth than we should have in this call… I don’t know the final decision;  I know the options on the table but not the ones they are going to take.  They’ll choose one of three options and we’ll go as soon as they choose, or the clock will run out and that will make the choice for them.  So, one way or another…
I really need everyone to understand where we are, without crossing the line.  I don’t think we’ve done that.  I want you to know how close we really are, that they are working on a formula on how to fix all this.  In Iraq, they have already agreed to share power.  They cannot stop the RI because it happened before the elections completed. Maliki is still in the loop and that’s smoothing things over there. The banks are tired of stressing ou their people and they don’t’ want to do it any more, so that puts pressure on them.  We know what’s going on, what laws are in place and which have been broken.  All the information is coming to us, and everything should be done the right way. We’re just laying the information for everyone.
One side wants to burn it down; t he other side just wants to get this done, and let the government deal with their malefactors later.  I just want to get this done, the sooner the better. If there comes a time, I know and DC knows how to bring out the truth and let the chips fall where they may.  Right now we’re in a great place.
DC:  Key points – most folks are all frustrated, and so are we.  When I find out certain details of what people have been doing, I’m supremely pissed.  But we don’t want to shoot ourselves in the foot.  People want to take care of themselves, but karma will bite them in the butt in so many ways, especially for those stopping this at an international scale.  Everyone gets what they deserve in the end.  History is going to rip them a new one, so let them handle that, and be concerned about yourself and your families.  This is really close, and we’re not going to screw it up to be vengeful.  We work 40-50 hours per week on this, just to help all of you.  It’s our intention to help for a week or two afterwards and then have a nice life and move on.  Get over the resentment and move on.
Pam:  We know this is the most awesome thing in the world and we’re ready!
Ray:  Let’s bring it on!
DC:  Why is the RI not showing on the CBI?  I am  not allowed to answer that.
Tony:  Even though we do this for free, I do have to pay for it.  A couple hundred people are paying for over 32,000 people on the call lines right now, and that cannot go on.  I’ve done my fair share, so has everyone else. Hopefully it will be over and down with.  Hopefully we will do one more call, and it will be over with.  They need to make a decision.  Both sides have heard this call, because I got the texts.  They know what we’re saying, and hopefully this is coming to an end.
Thank you, transcribers – I know we went long.  Everybody have a great day!

NETDANIA SHOWING TODAY: 1 VND = $0.47 / 1 VND= $0.34 EUR, 5 MAY

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 5 MAY

5-5-2014   Intel Guru WILDDUCK   ...THE RI DID OCCUR...THEY FIXED THE GLITCH PROBLEM...THE RI WAS RECOGNIZED AROUND THE WORLD LAST WEEK AND ONE OF MY VERY GOOD PROVIDERS...TEXTED ME THAT IT RI IN SPAIN TODAY. IT IS NOW A TRADABLE CURRENCY AND 10 DAYS FROM THE EVENT SO GOING TO BE REAL HARD TO NOT SEE IT NOW.   IMO TIMING OF THE EVENT SO WE SHALL SEE WHAT THE WIND UP IS AS THE DAY ROLLS.  [is the range of ri 3.00?]   IMO PLUS APPRECIATION...THE 3.22 IS THE LAST GOOD NUMBER WHEN THEY CRUSHED DURING THE WAR, SO THAT IS THE START RATE.

5-5-2014   Intel Guru Mnt Goat
    From everything I am hearing I fully expect to see the final completion of the process this week and all of us be at the banks and exchanged.

5-5-2014   Intel Guru Delta
   FROM IRAQIA TV:  CBI WILL TAKE NEW MEASURES BY MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR TO INTRODUCE NEW CURRENCY (LDS) AND DELETE THE ZEROS.

5-5-2014   Intel Guru MarkZ
   ...I feel more than confident that this is our month no matter what.

5-5-2014   Newshound Guru Shredd
    for me, the part of the current picture that is unknown for how long it will continue is the usage of the USD but it makes sense we don't know this because knowing the plan around the usage of the USD would tell us the plan of the dinar denominationally speaking, the Iraqi economy needs reliable and practical currency notes and for now, Iraq continues to be a dual currency country something the IMF wants them to get out of.  I really look at all of these preparations as fact that a monetary change is coming soon.  [part 2 of 2]

5-5-2014   Newshound Guru Shredd
    [Shredd how does a country grow the gdp last year to around 13% and still have a rate at 1166?]   that is the nature of a managed float, it's not reflective of what the rate can and should be...it's all about timing to CBI.  [does that mean they can...keep the rate at 1166 for a long time?]  they have to mitigate counterfeiting, ensure banking laws are in place, launch the removal of the large notes, release the mid and (eventually) the smalls, they need to be fully compliant with the IMF...technically, sure but it's quite obvious they have been building and planning otherwise...if the plan was to stay at 1166 for a while longer, the CBI would be releasing new 000 notes but tons of articles are saying the middle notes.[post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

5-5-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru American Contractor
   The official election results will not be published before the 25th of May.  Iraq political groups will attempt to publish results however, it is the Iraq Electoral Commission who has the final say.

5-5-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
   Article:  "Commission: We will announce the preliminary results of the elections after the "25" of May Pretty clearly stated after the 25th.  Sit tight and relax.

WILDDUCK TIDBITS, 5 MAY

5-5-14 WILDDUCK: SO YOU RI, AKA REINSTATE YOU CURRENCY…. WHY, BECAUSE THEY CAN. YOU ESCAPE THE LOOPING “GET READY TO GET READY" THEY HAVE BEEN IN.   PLUS MALIKI LEAVES HIS FAMILY NAME A LEGACY OF THE GUY WHO GOT IT DONIUM.

THE RI WAS RECOGNIZED AROUND THE WORLD LAST WEEK AND ONE OF MY VERY GOOD PROVIDERS JUST TEXTED ME THAT IT RI IN SPAIN TODAY. IT IS NOW A TRADABLE CURRENCY AND 10 DAYS FROM THE EVENT SO GOING TO BE REAL HARD TO NOT SEE IT NOW. IMO, TIMING OF THE EVENT SO WE SHALL SEE WHAT THE WIND UP IS AS THE DAY ROLLS.

NORTHANGELX POST FROM TNT FORUM: GREAT BANK STORY, 5 MAY

 I rarely post, but have a great personal happening recently. I talked with a friend from out of state on the phone who I hadn't talked to in a while. After talking for a bit, I started to change the conversation to the coming GCR and if he knew anything about it. He said no and for the next hour I poured out most of what I learned from the last year and a half. He sounded excited and told his girlfriend about it. She then went to their local airport currency exchange center since it was a Sunday evening, but they were out of Dinar and Dong. 

The following day they were able to get some at a regular currency exchange center at their local mall. About a week later, I called him back to see how things were and he said he had been dying to know if this was really FOR REAL(skepticism had set in), so he said he had marched down to a MAJOR BANK where a friend of his family worked as manager. He said he marched into his office, shut the door and said," Tell me, man to man, to my face, is this Dinar thing for real, no lies.??" The bank manager then informed him, " It is for real, I already exchanged, made a ton of money and am about to retire!   JUST A LITTLE HAPPENING TO KEEP YOUR FAITH ROLLING, COME RV!!!!!  GOD BLESS, USE THIS MONEY WISELY, TIME IS SHORT

TNT TWEET, 5 MAY

TNT Tony ‏@THE_TNT_TEAMGood morning TNT. Sorry for the late notice, the call is delayed. We are receiving updated info at this time.#wearethepeople

TNT Tony @THE_TNT_TEAM: Todays call will be delayed. DC is receiving updated info at this time. Call will be at 11:30pst/2:30est the linkhttp://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventID=54974397

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I4U CHAT WITH WILDDUCK, 5 MAY

[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 DONIUM

[misskitty05] WILDDUCK I've heard that before .... when will we get to BAMKIUM?

[thrive] Doneium bankium

[thrive] WILDDUCK Macarena time

[misskitty05] WILDDUCK did anything positive happen over the weekend?

[sandytob] WILDDUCK Donium is when you have your deposit slip in your hand! Good to see you.

[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 LID ON THE JAR IS SCREWED ON TIGHT AND NOT MY JOB TO OPEN, HOWEVER THE RI DID OCCUR SO THE BIG T CALL FRIDAY WAS ACCURATE THEN TRIANGULATED.
....
THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE SHOW HAVE NOT LOST CONTROL. THE PANDA EXPRESS WAS TALKING GCR WHEN ALL WERE ON IRAQ AND THE ADMIRAL. WELL THIS IS GOING DOWN JUST THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO,,,, I LIKE IT WHEN NO LEAKS OCCURING

[misskitty05] WILDDUCK excellent ... ty

[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 YUP THEY FIXED THE GLITCH PROBLEM ….YOU GO TO THE BACK OF THE BUS AND THE SYSTEM ROLLS ON WITH OUT YOU. SO IF YOUR A COUNTRY ….I RECIEVED A CALL FROM A TOTAL DIFFERNT DIRECTION FRIDAY THAT BACKED THIS UP

[ChildOfGod] WILDDUCK Does your crystal ball see this happening by month's end? Just your opinion. Ty

WILDDUCK] ChildOfGod THE CYRSTAL BALL IS PRETTY SMOGGY HOW EVER THE EIGHTBALL LOOKING GOOD, BUT HOW COULD IT WAIT TILL END OF MONTH. DO YOU KNOW WHAT AND RI RI RI RI RI RI RI IS

[kenbo] WILDDUCK that sounds good. I am way past ready to get about the rest of my life

[KajunRedBull] RI--Re Instatement.. yes I do have somewhat of an understanding but would appreciate some history from you!

 [misskitty05] WILDDUCK can you confirm that there are certain timelines a country must follow if they wish to RV after an RI?

[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 WELL YOU HAVE IT REALLY CONFUSED IMO. THE RI DOES NOT NEED AN RV, HOWEVER FORCING THE ISSURE TO A GCR, YOU SKIPPED A STEP BLOW …A HUGE HOLE IN THE SIDE OF THE BOX THAT HAD YOUR COUNTRY TRAPPED SO IT COULD NOT JUMP START THE BIG DEAL AS IT WAS DESIGNED AS THE PIVOTOL CURRENCY

[thrive] misskitty05 5 gold stars

rofl [Lvn42day] WILDDUCK I, for one; would like to hear your explanation of an RI and what it means to those holding dinar.

[WILDDUCK] Lvn42day A PAYDAY

[Lvn42day] WILDDUCK I like that answer.

[lovely] WILDDUCK is the range of ri 3.00

[WILDDUCK] Lvn42day ME TOO,

[WILDDUCK] lovely IMO PLUS APPRECIATON

[checkmaker] WILDDUCK so... where are we at today and its relevancy to the process being completed?

[Lvn42day] WILDDUCK If I compile your answers, I can say ...... a payday before the end of the month?

[WILDDUCK] OK OK OK SO YOU RI AKA REINSTATE YOU CURRENCY…. WHY , BECAUSE THEY CAN,. YOU ESCAPE THE LOOPING “GET READY TO GET READY “ THEY HAVE BEEN IN.   PLUS MALIKI LEAVES HIS FAMILY NAME A LEGACY OF THE GUY WHO GOT IT DONIUM….

THE RI WAS RECOGNIZED AROUND THE WORLD LAST WEEK AND ONE OF MY VERY GOOD PROVIDERS JUST TEXTED ME THAT IT RI IN SPAIN TODAY. IT IS NOW A TRADABLE CURRECNY AND 10 DAYS FROM THE EVENT SO GOING TO BE REAL HARD TO NOT SEE IT NOW. IMO TIMING OF THE EVENT SO WE SHALL SEE WHAT THE WIND UP IS AS THE DAY ROLLS

[sonnayhwh] Wow. Wish I lived in Spain.. .

[cowtown333] so nola is not here and noone has stepped in? fine i will..... hey WILDDUCK DATE _________________ and RATE ___________________ roflmao

[WILDDUCK] NOT MY JOB TO DO DATE AND RATE THE 3.22 IS THE LAST GOOD NUMBER WHEN THEY CRUSHED DURING THE WAR, SO THAT IS THE START RATE.

[SGD3] WILDDUCK Is this the 10th day? or is it close?

[terrib] SGD3 tomorrow 10th day according to other intel?

[montana2] Thought today was the 10th day. IDK. What do I know anyway.

[checkmaker] WILDDUCK - what questions are we NOT asking, that we should? If that makes sense?

[WILDDUCK] checkmaker IMO YOU PEOPLE SHOULD WHO AT THE LOW NUMBER WHO ARE GOING TO BE MULTI MULTI MILLIONAIRS NEED TO NOT PUT YOUR FAITH POST PAYDAY IN WEBSITES GURUS AND DO WHAT WEALTHY PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS DONE-HIRE A VERY BIG LAW FIRM LIKE 100 PLUS ATTORNEYS PUT THEM ON A BIG RETAINER AND NOW THEY HAVE YOUR FAMILY AND ONLY YOUR FAMILYS AGENDA .

IMO LEVERAGE A CURRENCY IF YOU NEED MORE TO HIT YOUR NUMBER YOU WANT BE SATISFIED. LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE THE TOP 1% OF ALL INCOME EARNERS IN US MADE $344,000. IN ONE YEAR SO TAKE YOUR TOTAL HAUL FROM THE EXCHANGE DIVIDE BY 20,30,50 YEARS LEFT ON YOU LIFE EXPETENCY AND IF YOUR DOLLAR AVERAGE IS NORTH OF THE $344,000.00

AFTER TAXES YOU CAN BUY ALL THE HELP GUIDANCE AND ADVICE FROM EXPERT YOU CONTROL AND HAVE THEY HAVE ALLIGENCE TO YOUR WALLET.

SO START THINKING LIKE A WEALTY PEOPLE THINK BEFORE ITS TO LATE. IMO

[terrib] WILDDUCK ty great advice

[SGD3] I understand wht your saying WILDDUCK and once I buy my small house and cars, I have a figure in mind for the next 20 yrs of living...Once this is over, I'm hiring professionals and saying goodbye to this computer..

[misskitty05] WILDDUCK IYO what's a typical annual retainer for a big lawfirm or accounting firm?

[WILDDUCK] MISSKITTY KIND OF DEPENDS.   COULD RANGE FROM 10,000 TO A COUPLE HUNDERD THOUSAND. IF ON THE TURN YOU HAVE 50 MILLON OR BETTER THEN YOU NEED SET UP A FAMLIY OFFICE ….GOOGLE IT, LOTS OF GOOD INFO. AND TRUSTS- IMO WYOMING IS THE ONLY STATE YOU WANT TO HAVE A TRUST IN.

[fiddlehead] WILDDUCK WILDDUCK Hi,, I like what info you are giving us, could you continue with your thought regarding groups

WILDDUCK] fiddlehead ASK QUESTION AS THE GROUP THING IS NOT GOING TO BRING THE BACON AND YOU NEED TO WAKE UP AND GET SERIOUS ABOUT THE REAL WORLD AND THINKING FOR YOUR SELVES. THE SHARKS ARE IN THE POOL AND ARE WAY HUNGRY

[fiddlehead] WILDDUCK WILDDUCK thks for info, my plan is to listen and walk if not to my liking. The most is not always the best choice

[lovely] WILDDUCK do u recomend being involved in a group?

WILDDUCK] lovely NO BUT THAT IS ME. THERE ARE LEGIT GROUPS AUTHORIZED BY THE UST. IF YOUR IN ONE YOU WILL KNOW.

[lovely] WILDDUCK thanks this is a stupid question how will i know?

 [WILDDUCK] lovely WHO HAVE YOU SIGNED UP WITH

[lovely] tnt-general-bgg

 [WILDDUCK] lovely …GOOD TO GO

[lovely] great thanks so much

[WILDDUCK] lovely HE IS VERY VERY WELL INFORMED
[WILDDUCK] KEEP YOUR HEAD SQUARE ON YOUR SHOULDERS

WHO IS RIGHT WILL SORT IT SELF OUT SOON ENOUGH,

STAY CALM AND CARRY ON.

[alohadinar] WILDDUCK Well said, Mahalo

MOUNTAIN GOAT UPDAT : "WHERE WE ARE TODAY", 5 MAY

Hi Everyone,

To all who have been following our Maibaum event I will give you an update.

Our event was very successful this past weekend and we concluded   our annual fest on Sunday night with  music and dancing. We had 125 Kinder assist and learn the traditions and over 2,500 attendees overall. Many guests arrived on Thursday and Friday and we began the ceremony early on Saturday morning beginning with the parade to the center of the village then to erect our pole.

What a wonderful time had by all !  If you never experienced this event I encourage you to investigate more, travel over to Germany and come to visit for awhile next mid spring.  The Alpine regions of Bavaria are teaming with new life this time of the year. God has surely blessed this land with its beautiful mountains.

Today’s News
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If you have been following my recent last couple news letters you know that there are some unethical and now illegal dealings going on with this IQD international rollout process.

The USA has control over the final steps to the process. As I have stated the controllers of this process simply do not want to end the continued bonanza of billions of dollars being made each and every time they stall the process once again. It is not easy to give up the goose that is laying the golden eggs……lol….

I know for a fact that the process ran last Wednesday night and encountered a technical snag. Once I got notification of this stoppage, once again I waited for the excuse.

I could hardly believe what I was hearing and the cause was so obvious that one has to believe it was intentional and sabotage.

All this was once again documented and those responsible placed in our files. So by Friday the fix was in place the process running again. I truly expected to see the process completed and done by late Sunday or early Monday morning. but here we sit Monday morning and no status as of yet. I am now attempting to get an accurate status. .

From everything I am hearing I fully expect to see the final completion of the process this week and all of us be at the banks and exchanged.

If this is not concluded by the end of the week, I am informed that my organization has no choice but to move forward with all of the documentation and files of the shenanigans and political posturing that has been reflected in the rollout process so far.

All those responsible for these actions will also be listed.
We have already contacted the news media and full disclosure and transparency of these files to the general public will be done.

We will then let the public, meaning you 5 million dinar holders and the rest of the concerned citizens of the USA and the world, decide the next course of action. 

 So my office now waits in anticipation to see just what will  transpire this week. We are not to be so hasty as to overlook the obvious in the matter.

The evidence will demonstrate who has been holding up this RV process and why. You will be very surprised when you see the files and the dirty tactics that have been used.

 What amazes me is the notion of stalling for so long (now since December 2013) that I thought the USA wanted Iraq to be democratized government and build their county to a free capitalistic economy.

So just how do these people who are stalling the rollout process think this can happen without an international currency? Just how long do they  think they can stall before the cork is let off the bottle and this sensitive information comes gushing out to the general public? The time is almost here.

Iraq Elections Update

First let me say that if you are an investor in the dinar currency and you actually believe this guy is good for Iraq then you need to study his past tactics and performance as a leader, a humanitarian, and a patriot.

Yes – I can agree that he is a brilliant politician but if he can not and does not want to form a government for the people by the people then what good is he as a leader for this newly formed democray?

 For those of you that still believe that Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki still has a chance of hanging on to his position for a third term, think again. The preliminary results of the elections are done and in any provinces that could have made a significant difference one way or the other the ballot counting is done.

The results show that Maliki’s State of Law coalition has not won the majority that will give him a third term in office. As I have stated in my last news letters that I stake my bet on the citizens party and the alliances put together by Ammar Al-Hakim (head of the Islamic supreme council) and influential Shi’a cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr to run the next government.

This is a very good thing just so you know just in case you have not been following Iraq politics over the last 2 years.

 So how long will it take to form a new government?

I believe it will not take months but only a matter of weeks to form a new government (once the final votes are counted). This is contrary thinking to the rhetoric you may hear about it taking months from the news media.

Most of these journalists  know very little about the real political happenings in Iraq and who the true future leaders of Iraq are.   These men have spend countless hours putting together this new alliances and strategizing ways to bring the country together to form the new government. This new government will be  based on a true political majority because it is a way out of the worsening crisis which faces the government, and a way out of the political crisis and difficulties which face the current parliament.

 We will now finally see the Federation Council enacted, something that Maliki has not supported and ignored for over four years. In spite of his objections this council has been established and is about ready to take center stage in the political process.

 Summary

I wanted to keep today’s news letter brief and to give you a quick update.

I believe we have been seeing progress in the international rollout. The new rates are calculated and being sent down to the banks and exchanges. This takes time to complete and for some reason was started later than expected.

There has also  been more tactics to stall the process along the way and time will tell what comes next. Either way this rollout will conclude very soon.

I surely hope this week will bring Iraq the conclusion of their monetary reform project as it links up to the rest of the civilized financial world

I fully and firmly believe we all will see a sudden news media broadcasts  on the  forming of the new Iraq government. Finally we will see this happen. We have waited now for 4 long years for this event.

Other announcements will soon follow concerning final implementation of  necessary laws we have all been watching play out.  All the key players will be standing around shaking hands and smiling for the cameras.

I do believe Maliki will not be in this photo since I do not believe he has the guts to admit defeat and shake hands in transition with the new prime minister in front of the world.
My concern now is - What will he do in his transition?  Can we expect hell to break lose on the Iraq people as punishment for his defeat?

I believe this transition will not be an easy one and he may cause yet more damage before it is all over.  .

Peace and Luv To Ya All,

Mnt Goat

SAGER POST, 5 MAY

5-5-14 Sager: If we take "the middle of the year" in a literal sense, 365 (days) / 2 = 182.5. If we go to http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/partners/fepp/julian-calendar.pdf we can see that the 182nd day is July 1. So if what Iraqia TV is saying is true...

Then imo this means that the CBI WILL TAKE NEW MEASURES BY JULY 1 THIS YEAR TO INTRODUCE NEW CURRENCY (LDS) AND DELETE THE ZEROS

DELTA UPDATE, 5 MAY

DELTA:FRANKIE FRANKIE….FROM IRAQIA TV:
CBI WILL TAKE NEW MEASURES BY MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR TO INTRODUCE NEW CURRENCY(LDS) AND DELETE THE ZEROS.