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Saturday, April 12, 2014

NETDANIA IS SHOWING THE DONG AT $.47 CENTS: HERE IS DISPLAYED, 12 APRIL


MORE UPDATE FROM STAGE3OMEGA FORUM, 12 APRIL

Stage3Omega:

Can we exchange our dong now at .47 cents exo?

Posted by galpearl    NatDania.com dong at .47 cents says Exo.

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Dwight:  IMHO until the currency exchange Dealers change their rates  your Dong shall exchange at what they will pay you for it ! Other wise they would go broke real fast !  

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Sqwatchy > April 12, 2014 at 1:31pm I believe Exo is talking on back screens of Net Dania, on the servive thru the subscription packages.....

Im guessing, because It is nowehere yet to be seen on any PUBLIC viewing website links.....private only trading platforms you have to belong too. 

But, if he is indeed correct, why would he lie to us.....he is seeing it there, in time, when public released, it will show on the screen that we can publicaly pull up...

Must be getting close!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 12 APRIL

4-12-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar   The CBI is ready to delete the zeros and introduce the smalls as they have told us in December and again in January.  I personally think they have the date picked.  We will get no more leads or heads up because that can be disastrous to both the plan and their banking system...  We know this is very serious business the closer they get and the CBI has to be very careful about what they disclose to the public, leaning always now on hidding their true intentions.   So again we wait to find the truth.

4-12-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
   let me say the buying of the gold and the customs and the reserves and  also the printing of the currency and the addition of the coins and also the development bank of the world bank and the economic meeting in the US now, we have multiple positive things going on right now -- there is no way to ignore the very positive things that are going on.

4-12-2014   Intel Guru Jester
   THIS IS NOT BEING HELD UP LIKE YOU THINK...IT IS A PLAN...A PLAN DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE A REASON IT IS BEING HELD UP... BECAUSE IT ISN'T... I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU... NOTHING IS HOLDING IT UP... IT ISN'T READY YET...STOP LOOKING FOR REASONS IT IS NOT HAPPENING.  [Jester do you think it will happen in the next 6 months are we in to next yr now?]   WELL I CERTAINLY WILL BE SURPRISED IF IT GOES OUT THAT FAR... RIGHT NOW I AM IN THE 90-120 DAYS CAMP.

4-12-2014   Intel Guru Frank26
   
 [With the Kurds language on the new currency and the lower denoms, Iraq/Kurds has to be off the terrorist list to go international. IMO, this is one of the last things that need to be done before the release. I hope this means all systems go AoP.]  IMO, Your post is spot on.   As we do not know the date nor rate neither do we know the final check list that is also so illusive.  Indeed...This removal is significant...Even though it was unknown to us. IMO, This is of value with the progress. 

4-12-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
  new news early today from Washington CONNECTION.   No later than Tuesday.   Sources excited on phone said I could share.   KEEP IN MIND THESE PREDICTIONS AND SOURCES HAVE BEEN WRONG BEFORE HOWEVER THEY REALLY SOUNDED SURE AND...EXCITEMENT IN THEIR VOICE.  NO RATE OR SPECIFIC DATE JUST THAT IT WILL HAPPEN NO LATER THAN TUESDAY.   QUESTION WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS BEING PLANTED INFORMATION ONLY THING IS AT THIS TIME I SEE NO REASON FOR THERE BEING PLANTED INFO LIKE IN THE PAST WHEN THERE COULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL REASONS FOR PLANTED INFORMATION. TIME WILL TELL.

4-12-2014   Newshound Guru Aggiedad77
   Article:   "Central Bank distributes Iraqi funds abroad between different banks"   The CBI is taking measures to protect its money abroad by distributing its funds into a number of different banks...this comes as a result of the US ceasing their protective measures for Iraqi funds on May 22, 2014.

4-12-2014   Intel Guru EXOGEN
   THE DONG IS NOW TRADING AT 47 CENTS IF YOU KNOW HOW TO ADJUST YOUR NETDANIA SETTINGS.
   [Who told you that Dong is now trading at $.47? Are we suppose to believe that while it's still showing to be worthless?]  NOBODY HAS TO TELL ME ANYTHING ITS LIVE PUBLIC INFORMATION ON NETDANIA TRADING CHARTS IF YOU KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW THEM- PUBLIC INFORMATION.

4-12-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
     there are a lot of people that say when we see the federal council that is when we will see the reality rate  --  the reason is this -- the federal council -- is what makes all of the laws in their country internationally accepted.  [When is Fed Council supposed to implemented?]  it is signed with the UN now...the ceremony was done today [Friday] -- so it is done.   [the federal council being a reality what does that do to our timing?]  some people say that this is what we were waiting on but i dont know the date.  [post 2 of 2]

4-12-2014   Newshound Guru Millionday
  
 CBI is here in Washington and having a meeting with the US -- World Bank- IMF and economic leaders from all over the globe...they are saying that all results of how they are going to activate the entire economic reform will be done within two days (couple) so we would think the banking reforms, monetary policy, banking regulations...they didn't not specifically say the rv but they would have to throw in reality value in there as well somewhere for it to work correctly.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

4-12-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar
   Strategically it is a smart move to get these notes printed and distributed before they drop three zeros otherwise the currency is still vulnerable.  Once they drop three zeros the value of these notes will soar and...Iran would definitely switch to counterfeiting these notes because of value.  Its a must do for the CBI.  It goes along with the plan to delete three zeros and is absolutely a necessary evil first step.  [post 2 of 2]

4-12-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar
    The plan all along said they were going to leave the 250, 500 and 1000 notes to circulate with the new smalls.  These are crossover notes.  ...the CBI has determined strategically that they must first print and distribute the new uncounterfeitable notes (250-1000 while they still have no value.  Its a very smart move.  They must do this before they introduce the new smalls or at the very least these notes must be ready at the same time they introduce the smalls.  If they brought out the smalls before they re-printed these notes, Iran would be counterfeiting the old 250, 500 and the 1000 notes before the week was up.  So the CBI is re-printing these notes to make sure that doesn't happen.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

4-12-2014   Newshound Guru Adam Montana
      
[could the RV holdup be due to a soon-to-be "world financial reset"?]    I don't think so - any "GCR" that might happen will be completely independent of Iraq's exchange rate.

4-12-2014   Intel Guru TNT To
ny   ...the DFI funds were released on Monday.  The DFI were not to be released until after the RV.  You can’t get any plainer than that...The bond sales did go through, the rate was $3.71;  how can you sell bonds and ship cargo without an international currency? The bonds and the rates on their cards are both $3.71, so how people can think it will be less than $2 is beyond me.  I’m...excited and feeling really good about where we are.  This is about to be over. Iraqi elections started today, and everybody we talked to wanted it done by today.  The fact of the matter is that nobody is arguing, fussing or fighting.  It could show up in the next three minutes, three hours or three days. We are all just waiting.

4-12-2014   Intel Guru TerryK
   I GOT A CALL TONIGHT.  THIS SOURCE TOLD ME TO SIT TIGHT. WATCH WHAT HAPPENS SATURDAY.  4 BANKS NOTIFIED OF RATE CHANGES TODAY [FRIDAY].  THEY DID NOT SAY WHEN THEY WILL GO INTO EFFECT BUT I WOULD SAY THIS - THANK THE LORD FOR YOUR BLESSINGS.  IT’S HERE PEEPS. THEY WOULD NOT TELL ME THE RATE BUT THE LETTERS (EMAILS) HIT TWO BANK CONTACTS THAT I CALLED...SO I KNOW TWO OF THE 4 GOT THE EMAILS.  

JESTER POST, 12 APRIL

THIS IS NOT BEING HELD UP LIKE YOU THINK...IT IS A PLAN...A PLAN DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE A REASON IT IS BEING HELD UP... BECAUSE IT ISN'T... I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU... NOTHING IS HOLDING IT UP... IT ISN'T READY YET...STOP LOOKING FOR REASONS IT IS NOT HAPPENING.  [Jester do you think it will happen in the next 6 months are we in to next yr now?]  WELL I CERTAINLY WILL BE SURPRISED IF IT GOES OUT THAT FAR... RIGHT NOW I AM IN THE 90-120 DAYS CAMP.

POPPY3 POST; "RV NO LATER THAT TUESDAY", 12 APRIL

4-12-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3  new news early today from Washington CONNECTION.   No later than Tuesday.   Sources excited on phone said I could share.   KEEP IN MIND THESE PREDICTIONS AND SOURCES HAVE BEEN WRONG BEFORE HOWEVER THEY REALLY SOUNDED SURE AND...EXCITEMENT IN THEIR VOICE.  NO RATE OR SPECIFIC DATE JUST THAT IT WILL HAPPEN NO LATER THAN TUESDAY.   QUESTION WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS BEING PLANTED INFORMATION ONLY THING IS AT THIS TIME I SEE NO REASON FOR THERE BEING PLANTED INFO LIKE IN THE PAST WHEN THERE COULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL REASONS FOR PLANTED INFORMATION. TIME WILL TELL.

EXOGEN UPDATE ABOUT ZIMBABWE ARTICLE, 12 APRIL

Stage3Alapha:

EXOGEN April 12, 2014  ZIMBABWE HAS TONS OF NATURAL RESOURCES TO BACK THEIR CURRENCY. 

ALSO THE DONG IS NOW TRADING AT 47 CENTS IF YOU KNOW HOW TO ADJUST YOUR NETDAMIA SETTINGS. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE WRONG SCREENS.
 link for see the Dong at $.47 cents

THE RUPIAH, DONG, AND ZIM ARE BETTER SPECULATIVE INVESTMENTS THAN THE IQD. THE DISTRACTION WAS TO FUNNEL PEOPLE TO THE IQD WHEN THE OTHER CURRENCIES ARE BETTER ROI'S


Army guy :  Who told you that Dong is now trading at $.47? Are we suppose to believe that while it's still showing to be worthless? 

EXOGEN :  NOBODY HAS TO TELL ME ANYTHING ITS LIVE PUBLIC INFORMATION ON NETDAMIA TRADING CHARTS IF YOU KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW THEM- PUBLIC INFORMATION 
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Robert M:  It's weird. If you plug in vnd/usd it shows $.47, but of you plug in usd/vnd it show the old rates. I've seen this on two stock apps. Also, went to my Chase bank yesterday when I saw it and they still have the old exchange rate on their screens.

mark b:  April 12, 2014 ... I saw .000047

Richard :  April 12, 2014    If you go to Netdania and enter 1,000,000 VND to convert to USD, you get exactly $47.

As I recall, we payed ~ $85 to purchase the million VND. If anything, the value has gone down.  IMO


Sunshine62 : In the previous post, Exo suggested you have to know how to read the netdamia screen. So maybe he could explain how to read it so that we can see the .47????

Sqwatchy > I believe Exo is talking on back screens of Net Dania, on the servive thru the subscription packages.....Im guessing, because It is nowehere yet to be seen on any PUBLIC viewing website links.....private only trading platforms you have to belong too.

But, if he is indeed correct, why would he lie to us.....he is seeing it there, in time, when public released, it will show on the screen that we can publicaly pull up...Must be getting close!

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Jana : EXO, this is great news for the country! How will the affect those that hold ZIM?

Sunshine62  Well it does depend on which notes they being back. They have so many! Dealers have been selling the 2008AA notes as gag gifts or souvenirs (their words) and they are so super cheap
Lets see today what this news does to their pricing

Sqwatchy > Sunshine62 : my dealer raised the price $12  more for $600 trillion, now $65 USD
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Stage3Alpha:

Rico Suave April 12, 2014 at 10:38am 


If the old Zim currency is being brought back and the current largest denomination is 100 trillion, it looks very promising if the largest note being printed is 10 Million.  That means they are lopping off 7 zeros from the notes. Whatever value is given to each Zimbabwe dollar after the lop gives you the final value of each note.This is wonderful indeed if they are bringing the 2008 AA notes back.  That is my interpretation anyway.

Sqwatchy > Rico Suave April 12, 2014 at 10:47am 

I said that a few days ago.,. Inside IMF source said lopping of 7 zero's, and then $.37 rate on the USD. I recall being scalded...saying the zero removal had to be done in three's...lol....well...look who may be right after all. 

It will not be made public or reinstatement until the soonest of June 2014, after the next IMF review is scheduled. They are working on foreign investment, to purchase some Bonds, in an order to fund the government, reduce some debt to investors, and support bringing back their currency again.  

If they get their ducks in a row...they could make it happen, and all us Zim speculators, will have hit the motherload...10 times that of the dinar..

Sqwatchy >  1 Zim is $.37USD come June 2014

wendy :   wow, everyone country needs $ , we can't even get anyone to RV/GCR ?  Go figure!

TNT CHAT ABOUT ZIMBABWE ARTICLE TODAY, 12 APRIL

TNT:

T6475W: FYI: Chinese contacts from the bond market say Obama is the one holding this up That's straight from bond dealers today, through a friend who works in that market...the Chinese have been trying to push it through this week and the can is getting kicked by our administration which includes some people that will be losing their (old) power grip as you can imagine

About Zim Article today: 


Zlynn:   ...Zim dollar notes were printed in October and November 2013, a senior official at Fidelity Printers and Refineries said. They were all high-denomination notes, with the biggest being $10-million."
The Zim currency advised to purchase here and other sites was the 100 trillion dollar banknote printed in 2008. This currency series was made obsolete in 2008. Based on this article, since I have the 100 trillion banknotes, I have the wrong currency to exchange.

Cookndrive:  Maybe not the wrong currency. Remember they might put out hints and misinformation prior to RV.

Mountain Mole:  The only way that they would use the old notes would be if the current gov. officials have plenty of them. If or when this currency RVS and it will based on this country having great undeveloped natural resources they would not use the old notes. They would turn on the press and introduce new notes. China would help them due to them in the country now assisting them with development.

Franklin 54:  It has ALWAYS been my position that they could NOT let the Zim slip 6 months, as WE would kill it.  Better to first quell demand by saying 'not now, later', then sneaking it out the back door at the same time as the big two (among the 200).

  AND with the largest bill being 10 Mil, looks to me like the 6 zero lop (not the 9) is on the table.  Didn't do the math - but seems about right.  Lock n load!!!

K Boom:  I will read this as a potential public news disclosure of the CYA variety that Tony spoke of on yesterday's call; i.e. "It was all out there in public. We didn't hide the news from anyone." (if you knew what to look for...if you knew who to listen to..if you happened to be watching cable news at 2:35 AM on a Monday....etc) 

For our purpose- Public Implementation- this is a good thing. Thanks for the article! I hope this is that FINAL piece needed to release the completed RV to the public.

PREACHER53 POST FROM I4U CHAT, 12 APRIL

From Last Night:

[preacher53]: from what I'm hearing maybe tonight or in the morning.. we shall see

T6475W POST FROM TNT FORUM, 12 APRIL

FYI, Chinese contacts from the bond market say Obama is the one holding this up. That's straight from bond dealers today, through a friend who works in that market ... the Chinese have been trying to push it through this week and the can is getting kicked by our administration which includes some people that will be losing their (old) power grip as you can imagine.

PRESS RELEASE: THE RETURN OF THE ZIMBABWE DOLLAR.."THE MONEY PRESSES ARE COMING OUT", 12 APRIL

PRESS RELEASE: THE RETURN OF THE ZIMBABWE DOLLAR......."THE MONEY PRESSES ARE COMING ON"

Posted by EXOGEN on April 12, 2014 at 9:42am 

Africa   Return of the Zim dollar?

11 Apr 2014 00:00 Kennedy Maposa

Facing serious funding problems, the Zimbabwean government may switch on the money presses again.

The Zimbabwean government is seriously contemplating bringing back the country's troubled Zimbabwe dollar, impeccable sources in the banking sector and the government have told the Mail & Guardian.

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The move is being considered to rescue the embattled government from a funding crisis precipitated by a liquidity crunch that now threatens to undermine government operations. But it could spin the economy out of control and trigger a crisis.

Zimbabwe abandoned its currency in 2009 after it reached unmanageable levels of inflation.

The M&G this week spoke to a banker and two top civil servants, who confirmed the plans to reintroduce the currency. They said the government, which has been unable to pay civil servants' salary increments, overdue by four months, is seriously underfunded and it is considering bringing back the Zimbabwe dollar as "an easier way out".

Some Zim dollar notes were printed in October and November 2013, a senior official at Fidelity Printers and Refineries said. They were all high-denomination notes, with the biggest being $10-million.

Discussions
"Everyone involved in the printing was asked to sign confidentiality assurances, but I can tell you we had some notes printed in November. The Zimbabwe dollar is coming back," the source said.

Another source working for the government said the issue has been discussed by some of President Robert Mugabe's lieutenants. The source could not say whether they included Finance Minister Patrick Chinamasa.

"At the moment, I don't think it has come to a point where it can be publicly discussed, even within the ruling party's politburo. It's a sensitive issue," the source said.

A central bank official declined to deny or confirm the plans, asking only: "Would it be a bad idea bringing it back?"

Financial situation

Another government source said the government's financial situation has become so dire that it now finds itself in arrears with the compulsory pension fund, the National Social Security Authority and the public service pensions and health insurer PSMAS, which it owes more than $6-million for 2013 alone.

"The government has been deducting NSSA and pension contributions for civil servants, but has not been remitting them. There are arrears for the agreed salary levels, which have been promised for the end of April, but current revenue levels will not sustain these," the government source said. He said Mugabe's government had initially hoped to raise money from the alluvial diamonds being mined in Chiadzwa, but these appear to have been depleted.

The mining of conglomerate diamonds will require a major investment, which the government and its mining partners in Chiadzwa do not have, he said.

"The Zim dollar will, therefore, be a quick solution but the tragedy is that it's a seriously short-term plan. But who has a clue about raising cash to get the economy working? It's getting desperate," he said.

'Multicurrency regime'

Chinamasa's cellphone was not answered when comment was sought. But in the past, he has repeatedly said that the Zimbabwe government is not considering bringing back the Zimbabwe dollar. He told captains of industry in December that the question had begun to annoy him.

"The multicurrency system will remain for the next five years. I do not want to continue being asked that question. It is going to be a multi­currency regime," he said.

The acting governor of the reserve bank, Charity Dhliwayo, also ruled out the return of the Zimbabwe dollar. In her monetary policy statement issued in December, she increased the number of currencies that can be used as legal tender, bringing the total to seven. Zimbabwe uses the United States dollar, the South African rand, the Botswana pula, the Japanese yen, the Chinese yuan, the British pound and the Australian dollar.

Mugabe himself has not closed the door on the possibility of bringing it back. Speaking during campaigning last July, he said that he had been working privately with former reserve bank governor Gideon Gono to bring it back, backed by gold reserves.

http://mg.co.za/article/2014-04-11-return-of-the-zim-dollar&views=1&mobi=true