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Tuesday, February 4, 2014

BLUWOLF UPDATE, 4 FEB

02/04/14 Bluwolf: Be advised that all are scrambling to get this pushed forward as soon as possible, those sending messages to congress and elsewhere are in for a big surprise, there will not be any martyrs drawn from these antics, the global reset is about to be officially expose through all the media. To all those who are texting you will not delay this blessing. – Bluwolf

Bluwolf :These fools are trying to cause a Delay using a couple of renegades in congress, and this is just pathetic. But the good word is that they are scrambling for it to be out asap Like tonight-Bluwolf

GENERALS64 CHAT FROM MIG FORUM, 4 FEB

MIG:

[xyz] Thompson: Don't buy Iraqi currency     http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20140204/BIZ/302040003/Thompson-Don-t-buy-Iraqi-currency?nclick_check=1

[hardtorecall] generals64 I take it you saw what I was talking about?

[generals64] you guys/gals:....I read the clarionledger link and have been called numerous times from people in a panic. Now, if you bought dinar and you bought it with the intention of making instant profit....then you should probably NOT be in the invetment world. The story states that it is worthless.....No, it's worth (less) than you paid for it. you can sell it back ofr $800.00 to most traders. This is when Congressmen and politicos don't do their homework. You guys/Gals....do your own homework....I would appreciate someone sending this to recaps.

[generals64] The dinar is just like ANY OTHER war related investment....Check what The USA did to Japan and Germany...Check what Hitler did to all conquered countries. The first thing is Devalue the conquered country’s currency so they have control of the financial world. One of the big money guys (not sure who so I won't quote a name) said this".....You take the land and give me the currency and I will contol the country. You are more than welcome to look that one up.
(Ghost)  i.m.o just big boys trying to get small people like us to drop our iqd, before it rv's. Hello mcmc408 generals64 hardtorecall

 [generals64] I wish everyone would calm down and not panic....Read what Papa Bear has had posted as he is pretty close to right. You that really know me....I can get excited and quickly...hey "Ghost" you are 100% right. Don't give your dinar or VND to anyone and I mean anyone...And they bankers (the real ones) laughed at me when I asked about IQN and VNN

[generals64] I am Generals64 and I do own "Roscoe the Wonder Dog".....Who bit me real bad last night.......later

[generals64] I was trying to take Roscoe's Chew Bone away from him and I'm not as fast as i thought I was.

[generals64] if you read the story it states 23 million dollars was taken and so on. that was NOT Tony and his group.

[generals64] that was another group ...... That is why I have Always said "Don't give up your dinar even for the so-called SKR to anyone. there is a group out of Texas trying to create a "we'll get you more and in first" program.....Don't fall for that one either. If you are listed with our group your stuff is safe and we don't want you Dinar or any money.....

[mcmc408] generals64 we are like you and everyone just waiting for our email and instructions

[generals64] One of my friends got "hustled" out of some of his dinar.....We contacted the people he gave it to and we got it back. Sometimes you have to remind people of their past and then you sometimes have to remind them of the future if something is wrong...

[generals64] mcmc408 :...thanks for your faith in our group. We (Roscoe and I) wait like everyone else.....Don't fall for all the High rates either.......

[mcmc408] generals64 well one of these days we will get through this and all be happy campers

[generals64] Remember keep your friends close and your enemies closer....Why?.....So you know what is going on. If you think raising cane with government officials and Bankers is going to scare them them you need to buy a new shovel to dig your head out of the sand. This will happen when it happens and no sooner...

 [generals64] mcmc408 :...God has a Way and a Plan. You don't have to "Beg" him in your prayers and you don't have to yell as his hearing is as perfect as his plan.........I just thank him for the opportunity. Now, I am NOT (NOTICE NOT) quoting a rate but, I was excited when I was told it should go back to the original rate of $3.22......and so were the rest of you. One of my kids just joined the party....WileyMorgan tell em to be calm my friend

 [generals64] mcmc408 :...I get tickled when some of the people say I am going to do my own negotiating. OK......try that when getting some Euro and see how that works or even VND.....Don't work that way...

[generals64] doesn't work that way

[mcmc408] generals64 that is why I am in Generals/Studley group you all have it worked out for me to just get an appointment and go  the bank on time

[generals64] mcmc408 :....I have a friend who bought a NEW CORVETTE......BRAND NEW......He gave $79,000.00 for it....it is worth $61,000.00 the day after he bought it......Now why I say that is in comparison to the Mississippi Congressman talking about paying more than its worth. The friend knew up front the CORVETTE would depreciate in value the day he bought it yet he still paid the high price. Now, Dinar is around $1,250.00 per million and it will bring back about $800.00. If you can't afford to be involved then don't get involved but don't be calling and demanding a huge return. or, think about my friend do you think he can call General Motors and demand more for his Corvette just because it was a Corvette?....Nope doesn't work like that...

[mcmc408] generals64 it is all common sense

[generals64] however, the friend can put the car up and keep it in pristine condition and wait and it will eventually bring him a greater return. I talked to a friend yesterday who came home from Iraq (soldier) and had bought some in 2003. He put it up and it has revalued for more than he gave but he like the rest of us is waiting (patiently) for the IQDS to at least go back to its original value.

generals64] Now, I bought a 1965 Corvette in 1969 for $3,000.00..................Hmmmmm.....the guy I sold it to ($5,000.00) some time later just now sold it....for $78,000.00 dollars.....I know that's a far stretch for an investment but it still the same.....Just patiently wait or take a hit and invest in something else.

[generals64] hardtorecall :...i bought a complete (box and all) Ken Doll at a Garage sale for 25 cents.....I sold it for $300.00 I'd say that was a good return wouldn't you?....and, yes that is a true story

 [perky2] isgenerals64 generals64 yes

 [generals64] mcmc408 :...I piddle around in Salvation Army stores and Thrift stores looking for something to buy and sell. last week I bought a CUT CRYSTAL....(real thing) Salad Serving bowl for $1.00......Should I sell it for its value or just get an SKR?

[mcmc408] generals64 I would hold off for the real money

[generals64] mcmc408 :...my wife said she would give me an skr for it.....(Smal Kiss on the Right cheek)....

[mcmc408] generals64 lol

[generals64] mcmc408 :...I bought a Large (1875 stamped date) Steamer Camel Truck for $15.00.....OK, is it worth anything or not?....

[generals64] mcmc408 :...the trunk has a $500.00 value.....that's another comparison to the dinar and its true value.

[generals64] Fixed stain and leather worked it will bring about $3,200.00

[generals64] but, it's going to take time and investment to get there....and I know for sure my wife will give me another SKR for it

[mcmc408] generals64 she probably will do that lol

[generals64] mcmc408 :.....in 1932Ford Motor company came out with the car to change the world...It was valued at around $500.00. Now, a front grille is worth more than that. Restored takes time and patience and they bring huge money....that's why we all need to slow down and make it as comfortable as possible for ourselves. Once the dinar revalues that Mississippi Congressman will be trying to figure out who he got that call from for his re election campaign finances.

[generals64] mcmc408 :...last one here....a Major Department store closed here.....they had tens of thousands of Seasonal Displays in storage. they moved out....I bought 5 tractor trailer loads of Seasonal display objects for $100.00. I sold it for $6,000.00 dollars.....Plus the freight.....Was that a hoax?....nope a gamble that paid off....think about it.....

[generals64] well...looks like i better go no one talking but my pal mcmc.....Everything is progressing just the way it is supposed to. Don't let the "Hype" get the bet of you. Enjoy your life and the new friends you have acquired through all of this....I really have to go and drink some hot coffee Roscoe about killed me in that little jog I just took....Later...

MNT GOAT UPDATE: THE GAME OF HIDE AND SEEK CONTINUES, 4 FEB

UU1117 The Game of Hide and Seek Continues - mnt goat

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to come over and give all you fine dinar holders an update as to current news my team and I have found in recent investigations of the continued corruption within this RV process and what we can expect in the near future.

Yes – you heard correct, this is now a joint team effort as a special team of investigators has now been put together to seek the truth and report back to some very high government officials as what is now taking place. Documents, files and phone recordings are being saved as evidence. This is all factual and evidence is collected to substantiate all that is said.
I will also let you know I have full permission to tell you all that I know and that I have full authority for access to this information and that none of it is of the classified nature. It can however, be very sensitive to some people depending on which side of the fence you happen to work and operate on these days.

So far what the team has found will put shivers down the back of you neck. You may wonder how your government could ever be so corrupt and how they think they could ever possibly get away with such unethical, unmoral and corrupt practices.

Perhaps this was the cause of the global melt down in 2008 in the first place? If these practices are not stopped now and those responsible do not go to jail, then how can we expect this global reset ever to have any success?

These are also the very same people you voted into office and they appoint others to positions to do their dirty work. Then when the chips fall later they have alibis, patsies, and escape goats. This is standard routine in political business. It has now all spilled over into this GCR revaluation process.

I am not going to rehash what I said in my last news letters including UU1111 thru 1116, as I always expect that you will read them if you have not done so already. Again I will repeat I am not a revolutionary. I have a dual citizenship, including the USA and Germany, so I have as much at stake and concern for what is now going on in the USA as any reader of these news letters from the USA.

The USA is also the country that is now holding up the revaluation process, so why would I or anyone else living outside the USA not be concerned?

Today’s News

Many have asked so many times what is holding up this RV process up? 


I am reading some absolutely ridiculous posts showing that some intel providers are still chasing the same old budget and GOI issues as the hold up. I tell you Iraq is ready and have been for over 6 months now.

They await this announcement like all of us. By now most of us know what is holding it up. It is the UST.

 They have released the rates to the banks and they are active rates. They have given the private banks the permission to feast on the very high contract exchange rates and in the process they are making a ton of money. They are not going to release the rest of the process to roll this out to the general public until the following happens, I can guarantee you that:

1) the high contract rates are all expended,

2) or such political pressure is put on this corruption that they are forced to finally release some of the contract rates to the general public (and not just a selected few groups), I totally support TNT Tony’s efforts to expose this corrupton. I encourage everyone to follow directions in this step by step exposure process.

We also know that the exchanges between the politicians and now the favorite clients of the banks is keeping this RV from going to a global or international level.

We all should know also by now the real reason they are holding up the GCR rollout and that is to artificially keep the rates of the revaluing currencies very low (i.e. IQD at 1166) so that they can still buy the currencies at the low rates knowing they can turnaround the very same day and exchange them for the very high contract rates we are hearing about namely $32, $36 and $38.

Of course this is illegal since the rates have not yet gone international so how can they now legally exchange these currencies? It just does not makes good common banking practice to do this but then again they write the laws and they hold the power to rollout the RV.

Are you upset yet? Seems kind of like a conflict of interest to me? There are also political motivations for the current holdup but I assure you all agreements are in place and now these holdups are purely for greed….plain simple greed !

The IMF has given us assurance over and over again that they will step in and resolve these issues in the USA. We think they will come to our rescue and be our hero.

Ridiculous! I can assure you it is just posturing for the public to see and hear and no action will ever come of it. In fact if you want the truth they actually held it back even more since they granted yet another hal

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Ridiculous!  I can assure you it is just posturing for the public to see and hear and no action will ever come of it. In fact if you want the truth they actually held it back even more since they granted yet another half billion dollars in January to the contract pool. This new money was supposed to go to the general public and make up for the wrong done since the UST  used up all the high contract rates on the politicians and their families and friends in December. Again the banks are attempting to exhaust these rates prior to rolling this out international. Meanwhile the rest of the world again suffers and we all wait.

 If you hear they are now rolling these revalued rates out to the rest of the world without the USA, as I am now hearing they are doing, I have to tell you it is total nonsense and once again ridiculous.

 I laugh at this notion and can’t believe some people are so gullible to even begin to believe this stuff. Read my lips – the UST totally controls the process. They own the software and control it. It can only proceed if they complete running the software process downstream that rolls out all the needed files and rates to the global exchanges, as needed for this to go fully public. There is no other way.

No real action will ever result from the IMF also because the IMF is getting what it wants. They are getting much of their funds from the exchanged money in the form of secret, unaccountable deposits for secret projects. Remember the UN organization was the brain child of the US Government in the aftermath WWII. So essentially the US dictates most policy making to them anyhow. So why would the dog (IMF) bite off the hand that feeds them (US)? 

 So what are these secret projects of the IMF? Is this a conspiracy? Does the US also support these projects?

 This is the part of this news letter that gets real scary real fast. Some dinar conference calls seem to want to make us believe these projects are only humanitarian projects and for the benefit of mankind. They white wash over this area. This is a very important part of the RV process and it too is a reason why we have not yet seen the international rollout.

 But the fact is most of this money is going to fund secret projects towards goals of a plan for world dominance, to further build a one world governing power by 2021 or as it is more popularly called Agenda 21. It is an ideology thought up by the elite class and they totally believe it is for the benefit of all mankind since we are not capable of making decisions on our own. They will do it for us. They will do it in the name of saving the environment. Don’t believe me? Here it is right off the UN website

 http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/index.php?page=view&nr=23&

 “Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment.”

This ideology I speak of, as stated in the Agenda 21 plan, is part Marxists, Communists, Nazism  and extreme Socialism. They have budgets already spelled out and what they ultimately intend to do with much needed of this funding. They have been waiting for a long time for this funding phase and so are using the economic situation and thus the so called solution (the GCR) as a way to get  the major part of the  funding needed. They need to now kick start these programs in high gear. Remember when I told you in many of my past news letters. One in particular namely “Be Careful What You Ask For”. Go back and re-read this news letter and you will further understand what this is all about. You see it all related and you can’t separate these pieces from the puzzle or you will not get the total picture of what is really going on here with this global reset and currency revaluation process.

 Is this a conspiracy?

 Conspiracy defined- “a theory that explains an event or situation as the result of a secret plan by usually powerful people or groups” 

 Just find the link above in web browser and read the plan. Its all there. They are so bold   as to even put the plan right on the internet in front of our faces. They know we are all so very complacent people and like a bunch of sheep being led to the slaughter. Of course one day when all their structures are firmly in place we will have no avenue or means of resistance to the outcome of the plans full implementation.

 What do I mean by full implementation? 
First you have to ask yourself this – Do you trust the people in the government? Do you trust people who continually lie to you and do things without full disclosure and transparency?

 Why you might ask must they continually operate in this manner?

 Well if you knew all their plans and what the real intent behind the plans (this is the key point) you would not support the plan and probably take some action to stop it.

 Well we already saw the aftermath of 911 and the war on terrorism and how it has brought us so many new restrictive laws such as the Patriots Act, more stricter gun laws and search an seizure laws. Do we not have a constitutional right of free and uninhibited travel?  How quickly we give away these rights when afraid.

 We now see high levels of search and seizure going at the airports. You can look forward to this also spilling over someday to common checkpoints on roadways similar the truck weighing stations or boarder crossings.

 What are they really looking for? Are they really just getting us all used to accepting the process so it becomes normal?

 I am not telling you there are  not some very radical organizations causing pain and suffering around the world. But we must always take the time to stop and think about what is really going on when we have these events. We must ask ourselves is this coincidental? We must look at the timing of the event and then the aftermath. The same is not happening with this GCR. This is not what it appears. All in not gold if it glitters.

 No one once again is being held accountable for their actions for the corruption in the RV process and maybe this is the very essence of the problem with the financial systems all along.  Believe me I do not believe 5 million plus dinar holders  are going to forget very quickly what is now happening with this currency exchange process and corruption and how it now continues into the third straight month. Still nothing is being done to stop it as I write this new letter.

 Is there a reason for this? 
 There are many underlying reasons why this corruption has not yet been stopped. .

 To name a few:

 1) it’s secretly funding  the global government and Agenda 21 programs (as I have stated above and the UN is getting their funding so they really don’t care if we the general public do not get any of these contract rates. The funding was their objective and incentive for finding yet more of the money for the contract rates in January. They must legitimize these funds using the exchanges to do it much like the drug lords have to legitimize their standard of living but running phony front businesses in order to funnel their illegal money into their banks accounts.

 2) more donor funding for the 2016 presidential election campaign since pledges have to be almost certain or you will not be on the list to exchange with the high contract rates. If you should make it on the list it is only because they want to legitimize the process and say they had no favoritism late. These other groups are paying hefty spreads too since they do not know any better and the banks are taking them to the cleaners. It is a feast for all the bankers. .

 3) political favors owed from past administrations for support. Same old stuff.  You do me this favor and I’ll remember you later when I am in a position of influence and control. We can not clearly see who is giving the UST directions and why the banks are doing what they are doing. It is all controllable and could end in a second by one phone call.

 4) it is playing a part in the restructuring and redistribution of wealth as part of the Agenda 21 plan. Simply put they no longer want a strong middle class. Either you will be very poor or with the elite. The elite will control everything and poor will be the enslaved work bees.

 These reasons are also why the IQD became part of the GCR. The GCR was in realty just a smoke screen for these efforts. It was put together as joint effort of the US and the IMF.

 The real projects are of course the oil credits to China and the USA. These IMF payouts are just the aftermath and beneficiary projects. WE are not supposed to know about them too. I want everyone to Google the UN and learn about the organization.

On the surface it seems as though they are a democratically run organization. Were you ever asked to vote on what your country’s UN representative votes on?

 Did they even openly broadcast or advertise you this global plan for the year 2021 to you? Yet this plan will have and is having such devastating impacts on all our lives now and into the future. In reality is the UN a very closed organization making critical, long term global policies that effectively impact all our lives.  There are no legislations, no legislators and no real accountability for any of the funds they receive. They are simply a shadow governmental type organization at best.

 What do I mean when I say funding for future Agenda 21 projects?

 This plan calls for:

 1) creating massive debt in all countries. Why? They are doing this to get us to the breaking point where their new deal proposal will sound so good we will jump at them and beg for them to do something. What will they do?  The final implementation of their master plan – that of Total Control over every aspect of you life.  There is a new “world” constitution already written and waiting in the wings for full implementation. The day is near sine 2021 is the goal set for this event.

 2) more taxes  -part of the debt enslavement process

  3) forbidden private ownership of lands and homes (of any private property) – already see this with billions of dollars worth of home mortgages being bought up by the feds each year. The feds now essentially own all these properties and thus can kick you off them anytime they desire. The time will come when more people will have to cave into these new mortgage deals.  They need the mineral rights and lack of any obstructions from environmental groups to drill for oil or extract nuclear ore from the earth. This is the real agenda in Agenda 21.

 President Obama himself said recently (I do not quote) that he would encourage citizens to move back into the cities as a way to safeguard the environment from over crowding and resource degradation…to save it for future generations. This is right out of the Agenda 21 document. Can you see how they slowly are putting this ideology in place? One speech and one law at a time.

 4) a redistribution of wealth away from the middle class. – we can clearly see this movement since 1980’s and now even more clearly in the reluctance to allow the general public to share in these high contract rates as part of this GCR process.

 These are just a few of the future projects in stored for the world. Now can you see why our world is now in such a mess. It is not coincidental. They are intentionally doing this to us !  Having peace and prosperity is actually easy. Making war and intentionally destroying the economy is time consuming and has to be deliberate.

  So please, please remember this if nothing else from this news letter today. These events just don’t happen folks! They are all being orchestrated and perpetrated upon us slowly as the years role on. So slowly we don’t even know its happening unless we wake up and begin to connect the pieces to the puzzle. I have given you some more pieces today in this news letter. I hope you were listening.

One last note-

 Did you ever wonder why the UST (of the current US administration) does not want the general public to have these large sums of money.  Money from the revaluation of these currencies.  It would have a huge impact on the US and worlds economy. That is also what it was designed to do.  You now know the answer to these questions you all have been asking yourselves for so long. Now the only question left is this – WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT ?

Here are many of the benefits to us all if they would allow the RV process to work and finally go international and do it now. A golden age of prosperity has been prophesized and I believe this could be the time, if only the evil powers  would step aside or join us and step into the light with us

1)      if would eliminate much of the personal and national debt

2)      it could literally save many nations from their national debt crisis including the USA 

3)      Assist the poor and bring many out of poverty

4)      create tax revenue

5)      give the middle class more political clout

6)      kick start many more new private, small businesses

7)      create more jobs

8)      create more buying of private land and estates,

9)      allow more people to be educated

I will attempt to keep you all informed on any further developments coming out of these investigations.

Peace and Luv to Ya All,  Mnt Goat 

TNT NOTES UPDATE, 4 FEB

TNT Update 04-Feb-2014
Chitchat while Tony set up…
Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  It is February the 4th, 2014 – a day I never thought we would see on this call together.  I’ll start with good news:  call centers are in, exchange centers are expected to be in this evening.  There is a time this afternoon when the system is making an adjustment.  If it happens, it will be superfantastic.  We are all hoping that it happens.
We’re ready, the banks are ready, the Tier 2 banks are ready.  There is no reason for this NOT to happen unless somebody is preventing it from happening.  However, I want everyone to see the big picture and what is being done about it today to make this RV a reality. 
A lot of things were said and done today.  The banking sector – every day they are having meetings and they had a big one last night and another this morning.  It’s becoming clear that the bankers are being set up to take the fall for this with the public, when the investigation comes.  They did it, they knew we were out here, and they took advantage of a lot of people so that they could make more money.  They have been processing church groups.  One church group was sent all the way to Florida, they had them sign NDAs and then paid them 32 cents per dinar!  I know it’s happening because I personally was invited to go to Las Vegas last week, where they were offering people 20 cents – and people were exchanging!  It’s ridiculous.  I got another offer to go to Florida for $12.  [Pam said $7 with no NDA.]  We got another offer to be in this group or that group, and two things are happening:  most are church organizations who are being taken advantage of, and the other ones either involve a paymaster (where only one person gets paid into one account – which I would never do, that’s just crazy, and people are not seeing their money.  There are others with paymasters where you can ASK for your money – what?!  But they are still collecting the money.) 
Most cash outs have been with churches, where the pastor tells them to do it because it’s best fo the church and everybody gets some money.  I can see how people are being taken advantage of, and the banks know exactly what is going on even if they deny it afterwards.  Every document has to go through them, so the banks know.  So be intelligent and WAIT – even if it comes out at international rates, you will get more than this 20 cent nonsense.  Do not sign an NDA unless you understand it.
Pam:  Did you just get my email?  XX sent one as well.
Tony:  Let me go down the line here.  We talked earlier about the bank, the administration, UST and IMF all being part of this deal.  All are in collusion with each other, trying to paint a different picture than what is going on.  What I like is that they are now turning on each other, setting up the banks to be the fall guy.  They can fight amongst themselves, and the worst be left standing.  After all we heard, I am just giving you the information and you can make some decisions.  I now hear they are considered about you guys, because Twitter went up to #10 during the Superbowl and #3 yesterday worldwide.  Australia, NZ, Iraq have started to join in, because they are affected by what’s happening here because they don’t get the international rate unless it’s’ released here.
I need everybody to have some sort of FaceBook account tomorrow. It doesn’t have to be your real name.  Some idiot will say you are being tracked by all these Senators – nonsense.  There are 50 million FB accounts, and when we are ready to post it will go viral.  So be ready with Faceboook and with Twitter, so  we will be #1, and also get an Instagram.  Then we will do what we need to do just as they are doing what they feel they need to do.  There is nothing wrong with voicing our opinions with that things we know about.
The banks know they messed up, because they relied on other people they should not have relied on, and they now know that this will all be coming out and they will be in the soup. 
Our Twitter campaign:  you went through Twitter and calling your congressmen, etc.  We have received a public response where one of our Congressman is calling this a scam. Either they don’t have a clue, or they are trying to start a cover up in that direction.  We have all the notes and receipts, so we know it is happening.  There are also Senators, Congress, administration people saying we need an investigation about the dinar.  They are trying to take it in that direction for two reasons:  either it’s the team who wants to make the administration look bad, because they got phone calls and letters from us, OR they are trying to cover up by saying “Oh, we are already looking into this”.  Remember, there are a whole lot more of us than of them – not just the 200K on Twitter or five million on Facebook, but our ten friends as well.  Start looking for the articles in that direction. I don’t know who is who yet, just look for articles, whether it’s the ones attacking the administration or the ones with the cover ups. 
We warned them:  we don’t want to start this avalanche, but we do have to get ready for the next step.  That’s what is going on in DC and other places.  I don’t want to be involved in this, we just want a revaluation so we can exchange and go on.  The banks have got to be concerned because we can retaliate against them in a very personal way.  We outnumber all of their rich clients.  There are only 4,400 ultra-rich in the whole country out of 350 million!
What I’m getting from the IMF is that they want to separate the contract rate from the international release.  They know what happened in the US is wrong, and they want to make sure they are not include din that because they didn’t authorize that and said not to do it.  So the international release is separate from the contract rates.  They are trying to establish protocols for the dinar to come out this week in other countries.  Here is my issue:  How can you tell me that you need to change the protocols when for the last two months you’ve been saying the IMF wants this to go tomorrow, tonight, by Thursday?  How can you say all that but now you are saying you want to separate this, and fix that so that it is ready to go internationally.  The info sure changes real quick when you know it’s about to go public!  I got this information from the UST and agencies, and the IMF is getting everything funded, so now they are changing their approach to say that this has nothing to with the GCR?! 
Three zero notes are not to be devalued but requested back to Iraq;  if this had happened the way it was supposed to, that would have already happened.  The three zero note will still be of value, just like a $1,000 bill in the US:  they are just not used every day.
The call and exchange centers are supposed to be on standby today, but we don’t know.  These are the same systems we use every day, but suddenly there are problems with the CBI.  But they are saying it’s all fixed and they are ready to go again.  In Iraq they are announcing they will be international this week. 
I was informed there is a big meeting today with the UST.  They were advised that paying out all the contract rates they have done is completely ILLEGAL, and they are saying it’s a Ponzi scheme bigger than Bernie Madoff.  They (the banks) took a currency that is illegal in this country, that is not available in any US bank or on their screens, and they paid out in cash and SKRs and then used those useless pieces of paper and made loans on them.  Or they used people’s exchanges into the bank as collateral for loans.  The lawyers said that it is illegal to use this currency before it goes international.  The bankers and politicians did it because they thought they could get away with releasing this to their friends and families before anyone figured it out.  But now it is going public, and they are figuring out who to throw under the bus and how to cover it up so that the public won’t take it out on them. 
So now every day we are seeing bank people resigning and/or committing suicide as they attempt to cover this up.  I hate this, every time I get more information about it. However, there are good people in the banks who agree that we are not being treated right and who have documents and records of who did what.  There are people in the government who are saying “this is too much”.  They simply refuse to trust each other from now on, even people in the same party, because some have been paid and some have not.  Some of those who did get paid are saying they are not going to be part of this cover up but will do what they are supposed to do when the time is right.
The bankers, their greed continues, but they have no idea how big a political shoot-storm they are stepping into.  [Line went silent.] 
This kept growing and growing, and now they are trying to find a way to shut us out, or at least so that we cannot get more than the international rate.  They know about this now!  There are people who are willing to blow the whistle because they couldn’t exchange and they don’t want this to happen to the American people.  Also, plenty of people don’t like this administration and they will trun on it in a minute, quicker than any other administration in history, for whatever reason.  My only reason is for this RV, for the advantage of those who suffered to make this possible.  We are the ones who bought dinar, not the people who are family members and only bought it when the banks told them to, through their blind trust, which we DO know about!
If I disappear, I better see 50,000 people coming there to see me!  Pam, you sent me an email that doesn’t work.  [Pam:  I do have a bulletproof vest for you, so hang in there, dude!]
Australia;  In order to get the US contract rate, you have to be a US Citizen, or a resident for over six months with a work visa.  Here’s the good news:  the international rate will go up when all the hedge funds and such start being able to buy it.  If you want to play that hgame, you will realize a good return, at least $3.71, I think.  On the ISX, they were trading stocks at a rate that comes our to $3.71 per dinar.  I got your message, people in Oz, and I thank you for joining in with us.
On February 4, we opened up the forum to all 200K Twitter people.  We do have to pay for this site based on traffic, so it’s costing ten times as much.  As we are also setting up Facebook and Instagram as well as Twitter.  Those who can, PLEASE donate on the www.tntdinar.com site.  We were hoping this would be over, but I don’t know how much longer they will drag this out.  I’m hearing today, tomorrow, by the end of the week, but they are just not releasing it.  If they are sitting in DC lying to each other’s faces, saying it will be done but it’s still not done, why should we believe them.  We do know it’s on the bank screens and it can be pushed out at any time.
832, good morning!  Speak up, please!
Caller:  What countries have live rates right now where I can cash in?
Tony:  Any country will have the same restrictions the US does, that you be a citizen or have a work visa.  DC is not here, but if you send me a text… they have requirements.  We checked this out, and there are one or two countries who would exchange, but then we couldn’t get the money out of the country.
Caller:  Is the Zim still part of this deal?
Tony:  Our information it has been removed because they didn’t meet Basel III requirements.  They are now receiving currencies from five or six other countries.  We hear they will review Zim in June, so it is one to watch.
Caller:  This is for the President:  on November 4th, 2008, you said that to reclaim the American Dream… didn’t catch all this… you said YES, WE CAN.  Those words gave me hope, and now I am seeing those words taken away from me.  Mr. President, make it for their dinar.  We know it is NOT a scam, so they cannot use that as an excuse.  They cannot turn that phone call and saying that we are complaining about dinar being a scam.  We are complaining that they and their families got paid at a high rate, and we didn’t, that we suffered while they made millions.  Send that out on Twitter, and let them know that we have our Facebook accounts and we are ready.  Once we do it, it’s going to be an avalanche or wildfire, and people will lose their careers.  It is up to them. 
Let’s get ready, let’s get it up on Twitter, and we are just begun to fight is this is how they are going to treat the American people. They are not holding the rich people up, they are holding up their ordinary citizens.
573:  I called one of the local banks, and the lady said she’d heard something about the dinar a month ago and her bank says it is a scam.  We need a document or proof that we can show these people. 
Tony:  This is all I can tell you to do:  go to the banks and tellers and bank manages, and telling them to listen to the calls and reading the blogs.  People in the banks are saying “Oh, Tony the dinar guy!”  You need to go and tell them in the banks, and tell them about the dinar and the dong, and that it will change their lives.  Memos have gone to the Tier 2 banks, and they cannot get them back when the UST and the big banks try to pretend this isn’t happening.  Banks have meetings on Friday and Monday, and told their people they can no longer say this is a scam.  They cannot take all those call center and exchange employees and think they will all keep silent. There are too many people involved!  They will have to point to someone and say “We never authorized that memo or call in”, and the people they are pointing at will be standing up and testifhying in court against them.  No bank is too big to fail, and no person is too big to be prosecuted when they took billions from the American people and giving it to their friends.
I am listening to them trying to cover it up.  All I keep hearing is that they don’t want us to have the $32 rate they gave to their friends and family and we will just get the crumbs.
Caller:  What about the Senators in our states.. what if we post this on their Facebook pages?
Tony:  We will, when the time comes.  In the meantime, send your congress people emails and phone calls saying that this is REAL, and people have already exchanged their currencies and some of them are Senators and Congressmen.  We want written confirmation that the Congress people are saying they don’t know, because afterwards we can tell who is doing the cover up.  We know this is real;  we have been tracking this for ten years, with documentation.  Some people will ask you make a complaint that you were scammed;  we are not complaining about that, we are complaining that people have exchanged at contract rates and we have not!
Caller:  We are the people!
Tony:  And we have just begun to fight if that’s what it takes to do what’s right.
206:  the other day you said that you are not getting the 800 numbers.  Is that still true?
Tony:  I don’t know.  I hear the banks are mad because of what I’m doing, but they weren’t mad when I said what they asked me to say!  They are all eating lunch together and they know what is the truth.   I’m telling the truth, and there are citizens in this who continue to do what is right.  They say that the banks are mad at me and I’m off the list, but the good guys are not mad at me.  They need to start asking the questions “Are we really holding this up? “ rather than getting made at me.  Now we hear that over 100,000 have exchanged, and the latest ones are not getting contract rates, they are used being used to throw into the mix so they can lump it together when this goes public.  Nobody is going to fall for that.  There are lawyers who will expose that;  nobody is that dumb.
We have the biggest voice  in this, and eventually we are going to get it, put it up and discuss it.
Caller:  Let’s go slay the dragon;  it’s about time. 
Tony:   Yes, and we need to get this out on Twitter, on this call.  We are the people and we have just begun to fight. 
Next caller:  We are the people;  I send out my tweets all day long, doing the best I can for all of us.  Did you see the post on the forum, a gal said for those who want to cash out at a lower rate -- $5?  My dad introduced me to this and he died.  [Not following this gal.]  I think we all deserve the high rate, but I have friends who can’t afford to buy food and who are about to lose their homes.  AT this moment, I would absolutely take that five dollar rate if I could help my friends right now.
Tony:  If you are not going to give the people $32, give them something!  You know what that rate is, so why are you making the people suffer while they are waiting?  If they get their way, we will get nothing.  We’ve heard four different rates, and I’m telling you, I’m not taking the contract based on the current NDAs.  I’m not going to be beholden to them under any circumstances.  I'm fighting for the contract rate for YOU so that you can have options. Many people don’t want to be tracked for the next ten years, but you should have the same options, rate and NDA as they agreed to.  That is a whole other can of worms right there, which NDA people will have. 
Everyone will not get the 32, 28 or 22 dollars, but they should do the right thing and be fair.
Caller:  They need to be fair.  There is no way they can get away with those stupid excuses.  They are trying to get out of trouble…
Tony:  Some don’t want to do this at all.  It’s going to go international at some point.  But if they want to go to court over the $32, they can do that, but they ought to do something for the people.
They really ARE concerned about what we are doing.  For months they were unconcerned about our little blog site, but today we are being seen very differently, because whether we get paid or not, we know who the lead banks are and we can make their malfeasance public.  The currency is going to go international.  To NOT do the GCR is going to destroy multiple countries.  They are not going to be allowed to destroy those other countries because the US banks and administration are greedy.  They need to give us options.  They will have to give us 3.44 at least.  Iraq has to go international.
You know why Bernie Madoff went down?  Not because he took our money but because he took from the rich.  If he took our money, they wouldn’t even care.  It’s the fact he took money from the rich – and that is what is happening here.  It’s the people who bought the Iraqi bonds or money in Swiss bank accounts – they are already rich!  If we don’t get better than the international rate, this will be exposed internationally, and they will not put up with that.
214:  Do you think this is enough of a hot potato that they want to be done with it and release it?
Tony:  Politicians are urging them to do this, and every day they’ve been told it will be released yesterday afternoon and then this morning.  They are turning on each other in DC. First it was the politicians against the bankers, and now it’s the politicians against the politicians.  Everyone has documents about who authorized what and to whom;  they were instructed to shred documents and they are refusing.  They have the means to end this and I cannot believe that they haven’t.  I don’t want to be part of this corruption;  I just want them to release the RV so we can go on with life.  Politicians are saying this now as well!  Those top banks are not going to survive this scandal, because when it goes globally, no one will trust these bankers or world leaders.  They can’t see how to make this go away in 30 minutes?! That doesn’t make sense to me.
Caller:  Those church groups that have been cashed out, are they going to be in trouble?  Would you cash out early if it was offered?
Tony:  Yes, I would cash out, because it’s the banks that are doing wrong here.  They knew that they were doing something illegal with currency, and they thought it would never be exposed.  But it will be exposed, and their greed is all that is keeping us from the release.  After this call it’s going to be worse!  They are so arrogant they think they will get away with this.  But with Watergate, they said, “who will get us?”  But that is exactly what will happen, because the majority is like Snowden or Wikileaks, and these people will be exposed!
405, good morning!  225?
Caller:  it would be great on the site if there were a video we could send to people or that they could post inside a FB or Instagram that would give a brief explanation of what this is about and where we are.  That could explain quickly and easily what is happening, to explain it to every-body on Facebook and such.
Tony:  We have a guy who does videos on our site;  maybe he can return the calls into videos.  I do know that nine times out of ten, they will not take the time to watch or listen. However, if you are in a conversation with someone, they will listen to YOU talking about what you know, and what they need to do in order to get what you are planning to give them after the RV.  Do it with the people you planned to help, because these bankers are preventing that from happening because they are greedy!  If they are going to give us six, eight or ten dollars, then do it now.  Don’t keep paying out $32 to your clients and contact while you pay us nothing!
All we have to do is tell the story to a mass of people.  There are the people don’t like the administration or who think this is unfair – they will all jump on the story.  The people who are turning on each other will give up the names as well.  It’s already happening, but it will happen on a much larger scale.
We are at the end of our time.  We have over 200,000 listening, so we have a larger bill to pay this month, so we need some help.  Two hundred people have been supporting the site, and we need a lot more to help.
The call centers and exchange centers are staffed.  They say they are waiting for the word from the UST, and the UST say that the IMF can do it.  There are not issue apart from someone just pushing the button.  Iraq has been told they will go international by Friday;  they have been wrong-footed a few times, but they are making the announcement.  WE know the rates are at the bank today and they are cashing people out as we speak.  China is pressing the US to release it tonight because of the bond issues.  A congressman wants it released because otherwise we will expose this to the public.  They are saying they see the potential of what can happen, so we need to keep Twitter going, and be ready with Facebook and Instagram to go worldwide.  If other countries can support us, that would be great.  WE are the people and we are the ones paying the price worldwide.  I hope that we have a call later, so we can have our exchange and get on with our lives.
I will not be signing an NDA.  For a lot of you, that won’t matter, but it makes a difference to what I want to do.  I’ll discuss the pros and cons when we have more details.
Pam:  Get your Facebook accounts ready but don’t do anything until Tony says to go.  Meanwhile, do your tweets!
Ray?  Guys, hang in there.
DC was sick and not able to be with us today, but he says they are fighting with each other in Washington.   We’ll hopefully call later. 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 4 FEB

2-4-2014   Newshound/Intel Guru Bluedog    It seems that we are sitting in the last moments watching...IMO we should not care when the Parliament comes back and that its real strange that they passed the Pension Law today without reading the Budget...for the first reading...but who cares... that's not our goal... our goal is the international rate...we know that has to come first.   the Budget will come out soon enough to get these things done.   sure is a lot of side table meetings going on...this is a complex move for this Rich Nation....I think, IMO, we are Golden.

2-4-2014   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man
   TODAY WILL BE A DAY OF REVELATION TO MOST DINARIANS. TODAY YOU WILL HEAR AND KNOW THE TRUTH OF THE CORRUPTION, MANIPULATION AND DOWN RIGHT ILLEGALITY TRANSPIRING. TODAY SHOULD GIVE US NEW PERSPECTIVES AND A NEW DIRECTION TO FOLLOWUNTIL NOW WE(ALL OF US) HAVE BEEN PURPOSEFULLY FURNISHED INFORMATION THAT WAS FOR THE EXCLUSIVE BENEFIT OF FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND BANKS. TODAY THE TRUTH WILL BE EVIDENT. KEEP YOUR EARS AND EYES OPEN TO WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING THAT WAS EXPOSED TO ME THIS MORNING.  I WILL BE AT LIBERTY SOON I HOPE FOR THE EXPOSE' OF THE ACTIONS OF A FEW THAT WILL AFFECT US ALL.

2-4-2014   Newshound Guru Tlar
   Article:   "Washington warns Barzani of the Kurdistan Declaration of Independence"    Personal speculation - Never happen. Barzani is using this for muscle in his negotiations with Bagdad over the budget.  He is a realist and knows that war would surely pursue immediately...Barzani would never take that chance.  Kurdistan and Bagdad are attached at the hip both now and in the future.  Kurdistan and Bagdad will work this out soon and I think the budget is the key.  As long as Kurdistan gets what they think is their fair share they will be satisfied until the next problem.  I see this as a card being played to force the hand Maliki's government to come to terms on the budget and they are, IMO. 
2-4-2014  Newshound Guru Millionday
   
We see that the retirement law is done...Published in the official gazette and implemented this law from the date of 01.01.2014.  They published it to begin the beginning of the fiscal year as they are claiming that all is to be with the calendar year as well.   They will get back pay and begin with the calendar year -- wow hope that is the budget as well -- they said they have plenty of time with it being five days -- makes you wonder what is at the end of that time -- very interesting timeline they are stating.  Najafi had a closed door meeting and they postponed the budget yesterday to give five days for all to work out disagreements etc -- so in five days it will be back on table.   

2-4-2014   Intel Guru Jester
   A LOT GOING ON...MOST OF IT REALLY GOOD...THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TRACKING ALL OVER... AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USUALLY NOT THAT EXCITED ARE SORT OF WAVERING ON THEIR STANDARD ANSWERS... SOMETHING IS GOING ON... NOT SURE HOW CLOSE IT IS YET... BUT SOME OF THE RUMBLINGS ARE THAT WE ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER.

SWEETQUEEN & PAPABEAR CHAT: ANGELQUEST RECORDED CC, 4 FEB

[..SweetQueen] URGENT URGENT URGENT URGENT URGENT

AQ CALL FOR THE WHOLE REASON THE GCR IS BEING HELD UP.....

THIS IS THE RECORDED CALL FROM ANGELQUEST..... RECORDED NUMBER    530-881-1499 644902#


[Papa Bear] AQ -Congress refusing RV

[Papa Bear] 2010 accord and our Congress non agreement

[misskitty05] AQ: there must be an agreement among relevant countries with each signing on the dotted line before the GCR can move forward in her opinion

[mbillions] AQ The IMF is trying to get more power than what they need...

[Papa Bear] Very enlightening on stall of GCR

[Robertprofessor] Comes down to the US willing to give up its dominant voting position on the IMF.
[Papa Bear] mbillions We have the majority of power because we have most voting rights

[misskitty05] OKCRN yes.. she's saying all relevant countries must come to an agreement first before congress will move forward

[Papa Bear] 2010 accord not approved by Congress

[mbillions] Papa Bear I think she was saying that congress didn't approve payment for those voting rights... not sure.. .came in at the end...

[Papa Bear] mbillions Yep

[misskitty05] she said something about all other countries wanting to have an equal say. Right now, USA has a very significant say in what goes on... US not willing to give that up and that's why congress hasn't done what it needs to do to finalize this

[#2sister] mbillions what voting rights?

[mbillions] #2sister Within the IMF

[..SweetQueen] THIS IS FROM ANGELQUEST..... OKAY HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT ARTICLE........ THIS IS BLATANTLY TELLING US THEIR IS A VOTE FOR POWER IN THE WORLD GLOBAL GOING-ON...........OUR CONGRESS HAS REFUSED TO AGREE TO THE 2010 ACCORD PER THE IMF POWER....AT PRESENT WE DO HAVE SOME POWER AND REGARDLESS OF ALL GURUS TELLING YOU IT IS THE AMOUNT YOU GET THEY ARE WRONG THIS IS A BIGGER PICTURE THE VOTING POWER OF THE USA.............. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/05/opinion/the-imf-needs-a-reset.html?_r=2

[Robertprofessor] Somehow there must be a compromise agreement that satifisfies the USG and the rest of the world.

[Robertprofessor] The US has held the dominant position since Bretton Woods agreement that was made in NH (Washington Hotel) in 1944 because we were the country that was to emerge from WW2 with the strongest economy. According to AQ unless we give up our dominant voting position within the IMF, there will be no GCR.

[sooner84] Robertprofessor Sounds like that will drag this out a long time

sandytob] Robertprofessor sounds like a no win situation.

[Papa Bear] misskitty05 Because we have majority of voting rights

[misskitty05] Papa Bear yes

[Digs] Robertprofessor highly unlikley that we would give up Voting rights... IMHO

[sooner84] It sounds like the IMF is not able to push this whole thing through like they said they would do if the US doesn't.

[Robertprofessor] Whatever the final agreement will look like, I'm convinced that China and the US need each other equally. The voting power on the IMF board must reflect that in some fashion so both giants have what they need.

[#3sister] Robertprofessor How do you know its real? we have been lied to so many times its not funny

[Robertprofessor] #3sister Know what is real? What AQ said today? What Tony is saying? Or that this funny money will someday secure your financial future?

[Robertprofessor] #3sister I go to the most basic things about the investment for assurance: the dinar was artificially devalued as part of a war. That's normal in warfare. Also normal that in time the value of the currency is reinstated. Iraq has amazing wealth in the ground.

[Robertprofessor] #3sister What is not normal with Iraq's currency is that so many other things have been tied to it, which has caused the reinstatement or revaluation to take much longer than normal after a country has lost a war.
[Papa Bear] I say NICE JOB AQ. TY

OKIEOILMAN POST TODAY, 4 FEB

[..OKIEOILMAN] GOOD TUESDAY MORNING AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FREINDS. TODAY WILL BE A DAY OF REVELATION TO MOST DINARIANS. TODAY YOU WILL HEAR AND KNOW THE TRUTH OF THE CORRUPTION, MANIPULATION AND DOWN RIGHT ILLEGALITY TRANSPIRING. TODAY SHOULD GIVE US NEW PERSPECTIVES AND A NEW DIRECTION TO FOLLOW. UNTIL NOW WE(ALL OF US) HAVE BEEN PURPOSEFULLY FURNISHED INFORMATION THAT WAS FOR THE EXCLUSIVE BENEFIT OF FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND BANKS. TODAY THE TRUTH WILL BE EVIDENT. KEEP YOUR EARS AND EYES OPEN TO WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING THAT WAS EXPOSED TO ME THIS MORNING. I WILL BE AT LIBERTY SOON I HOPE FOR THE EXPOSE' OF THE ACTIONS OF A FEW THAT WILL AFFECT US ALL.--NOTICE------US TREASURY---BETTER RUN AND HIDE----NUFF SAID------BLESSINGS GALORE.
 
[..OKIEOILMAN] I WOULD IMAGINE THE US TREASURY HAS A NEW SONG THIS MORNING-----"WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU---BAD BOYS-BAD BOYS"

[..OKIEOILMAN] IF YOU AS INVESTORS ONLY KNEW A SCINTILLA OF TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAS AND IS PRESENTLY GOING ON POLITICALLY ----YOU WOULD "PUKE"

JCR CHAT FROM TNT FORUM, 4 FEB

JCR wrote: GUYS I AM ONLY TRYING TO HAVE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ALL IS NOT LOST AND THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH IN THIS...YOU DECIDE WHETHER TO BELIEVE ME OR NOT

JCR wrote: GUYS WE HAVE YOU ALL IN MIND AND WE ARE CLOSE...WE JUST WON'T SETTLE FOR ANYTHING SHORT OF WHATS FAIR

JCR Wrote: WE ARE HEARING THAT ALL IS ON TRACK AND INTERNATIONALLY READY

JCR wrote: I DON'T BLAME ANYONE FOR BEING UPSET OR CONFUSED...JUST KNOW THIS, WE ARE FIGHTING FOR YOU TOO! WE ARE TOGETHER IN THIS.

JCR - I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YESTERDAY BUT THERE WERE A FEW MINOR LAST MINUTE ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FIRST. WE ARE STILL LOOKING VERY GOOD BUT NEED TO KEEP THE PRESSURE UP. THIS WEEK LOOKS GREAT FOR US.

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 4 FEB

TNT:

Iko ward: The contract rates were always there, just never to be made public. Companies like Haliburton indented (and have) made billions off these "futures" on post dated projects

Trapdoor: @Iko. No. There was no intent or thought to contract rates when this was started. It was supposed to only be for the US and limited allies. Then, they came up with this GCR idea to pillow he the natural resources of Iraq under the guise of fixing the world economy.

Trapdoor: Again. It is all here. The Paris Club and who the original members are, United Nations Chapter 6 Chapter 7, WTO ascension, the Iraqi constitution and power-sharing agreement, Erbil agreement, IMF chapter 8. Article 140. Who owns the IMF, BIS, Fed, CBI and the world's central banks. The Marshall plan. The history of the German Mark, the Japanese yen, the Nigerian Naira, the Kuwaiti dinar, and the re-denomination of the Mexican peso. EO 13303. The Iraqi Development Project and the IDF.
Trapdoor: There is no holdup. It will happen when it does. That is how I get through this. Falling into the "any minute" trap will eat away at your belief that it will if you let yourself be disappointed every morning.

Gnosis: One view is that the real hand behind the delays is coming from the forces of "good" who are working behind the scenes to dismantle the old guard power elite so that when it does go live, they it doesn't just feed more of their ability to control. I'm not sure I believe this but it's a theory.

DebMc: I still do not understand how the U.S. can hold up a worldwide revaluation and who would let them do it? All the other countries I would think would ban together in protest or something.

WGarland65:  you would think someone would be ready to go to war with the US after all this global hold up

Bella Angael :seems there would be something ALL of these other countries would be doing about this

Bojik1956:  obviously there aren't enough good guys to override the power of the bad guys

JESTER CHAT, 4 FEB

[Jester]  WELL I THINK WE ARE ALL BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED RIGHT NOW... A LOT GOING ON... MOST OF IT REALLY GOOD...

[alfonse] Jester I detect optimism

[Jester] alfonse YOU DETECT CORRECTLY...

[alfonse] Jester So will this be 20 questions or will you be spilling the beans :)

[Jester] alfonse YOU GUYS USED TO BE A LOT BETTER AT PICKING UP THE HINTS.... HAHAHAHA

[Jester] NOW.... YOU GUYS KNOW I DO NOT DO RATE AND DATE...

[HeartLand] Jester we're out of practice man! Been off the hopium train for a while now and we no longer remember how it's done...but it's a wonderful thing to be that way

[msgwen] Jester Hi! Is your optimism based on something specific?
[Jester] msgwen WELL... NOTHING SPECIFIC I CAN TELL YOU... LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY... AS YOU ALL KNOW I MOSTLY QUIT LISTENING TO EVERYONE I WAS LISTENING TO BACK IN THE SUMMER AND WENT ON A SEARCH FOR REALITY... REMEMBER?

[HeartLand] Jester yes

[Jester] THEN WE FOUND A LOT OF REALITY AND I BACKED MYSELF INTO A CORNER BY GOING AGAINST WHAT NEARLY EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE WAS SAYING.. MAINLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT WHAT EVERYONE WILL LIKE TO HEAR...

[Jester] SO... NOW I HAVE THIS HUGE NET OF REALITY OUT THERE...

[Jester] AND THEY ARE GETTING PRETTY EXCITED...

[Truth] Jester Great news.

[Jester] LOT'S OF OTHER INDICATORS AS WELL... STOCK MARKET IS EDGY... THEY ARE HEARING RUMORS OF CURRENCY REVALUES AND THEY ARE WORRIED WHICH SIDE OF THE REVALUE THEY WILL BE ON IF THAT HAPPENS...

 [Jester] NOW THAT WOULD BE THE RESET IN MY OPINION... IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW YOUR RESET VALUES WILL BE COMPARING TO OTHERS THEN IS MAKES PEOPLE NERVOUS... ESPECIALLY IN COMPANIES THAT HAVE A LOT OF FORIEGN HOLDINGS OR OPERATIONS...

 [Pilgrim] Jester makes perfect sense

[Jester] Pilgrim THINK ABOUT IT... IF YOU INVEST IN A US COMPANY... A COMPANY THAT COMPANY HAD OUT OF THE COUNTRY OPERATIONS OR WHATEVER... IT WOULD MAKE YOU NERVOUS WHAT THE EXCHANGE RATE MIGHT BE ON SAID OPERATIONS IN THE FUTURE...

 [Jester] OF COURSE IT COULD GO THE POSITIVE DIRECTION IN MY OPINION... AND I THINK IT WILL.. BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF THEM WILL GO UP IN REALTION TO US... SO IT IS ALL GOOD...

[stripeS] Jester good, maybe that will bring them back to the US

[Jester] stripeS WHICH WILL BE PART OF THE REACTION AND THAT IS WHY I THINK IT IS GOOD... WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT STATEMENT...

Jester] BUT IT COULD CAUSE STOCK PRICES TO FLUCTUATE AND THAT MAKES PEOPLE NERVOUS...

[Jester] SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES RIGHT NOW...

[stripeS] My grandma always said that when you clean a room, it always gets messier before it gets cleaner

[Truth] stripeS good point.

[Truth] Jester by that you are not referring to those in government, huh? who is sitting on the sidelines?

[Betsy Ross] the bankers?

[Jester] Truth WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET...

[Pilgrim] the stock traders etc

[Truth] Jester So, those who invest in the stock market are sitting on the sidelines, huh? I was thinking the stock market would affect everyone.

[Jester] Truth WELL IT COULD IF IT CRASHES REALLY BAD BUT IT USUALLY JUST MESSES AROUND WITH THE PEOPLE IN IT... HAHAHAH

[alfonse] Someone brought the Art Cashen article in the other night. He is a big commentator on CNBC

 [alfonse] About "watchin" and a reval :)

[Jester] SAVVY INVESTORS WILL GO TO CASH OR CHANGES TO DIFFERENT KINDS OF INVESTMENTS IF THEY SEE A PROBLEM COMING USUALLY... THEY SIT OUT THE MESS IF THEY CAN...

[ljp] Jester I heard if the dollar is no longer the reserve currency , prices will go up 30 to 50 percent. what do you think?

[Jester] ljp I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE OVERBLOWN... LETS SAY THAT THE RESERVE CURRENCY CHANGES... TO A "UNIT"... IT DOES NOT REALLY MATTER WHAT THAT UNIT IS...

[Jester] IT IS THE UNIT THAT IS USED TO TRADE BETWEEN TWO CURRENCIES... THE COST OF THE UNIT IS DIFFERENT IN OTHER COUNTRIES...

[Pilgrim] Jester I think the peeps are all ears tonight

[Jester] THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR IS SET TO THINS AND THAT COMPARED TO OTHER CURRENCIES... THAT IS WHAT ESTABLISHES THE PRICE SOMETHING COSTS... NOT THE UNIT...

[Jester] OOPS... SET TO THIS AND THAT.. HIGHER AND LOWER...

[Jester] ljp DOES THAT HELP?

[Jester] WHAT YOU MUST HAVE FROM A RESERVE CURRENCY IS STABILITY... THAT IS WHY THE USD WAS ALWAYS USED... IT USED TO BE THE BRITISH POIND BEFORE THAT...

[Jester] SO COUNTRIES AND MAYBE EVEN BIG COMPANIES MAY HOLD LARGE RESERVES OF THE RESERVE CURRENCY TO USE FOR INTERNATIONAL TRADE...THAT WAY THEY DO NOT HAVE TO CONVERT THEIR CURRENCY IN ORDER TO TRANSACT INTERNATIONALLY...

[Jester] NOW... SINCE THE USD IS THE RESERVE CURRENCY RIGHT NOW THE PRICE OF THINGS WILL GO UP A BIT HERE... BECAUSE THE CONVERSION WILL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE TO USE SOMETHING ELSE...

 [Jester] ASSUMING IT IS REAPLACED COMPLETELY... I DON'T THINK I SEE THAT COMING... I THINK CANADA AND AUSTRALIA WERE ADDED BECAUSE OF TRADE BETWEEN THEM AND OTHER COUNTRIES... SO NOW THERE IS A CHOICE WHICH ONE IS BETTER TO USE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES..

[ljp] Jester, I did not see it replaced totally either

[Jester] LIKE AUSTRALIA DOES A LOT OF BUSINESS WITH CHINA... WHY SHOULD BOTH OF THEM HAVE TO USE THE USD TO TRANSACT LIKE THAT? SILLY REALLY... NOW THEY CAN USE THE AUSSIE DOLLAR...

[dinar chaser] Jester I see it as spreading the risk. They can keep the USD in there, as long as they have other currencies to balance things out.

[MotoXR] Jester Are they also tied of the Bully on the block (US) taking advantage of them?

 [Jester] MotoXR I THINK A FEW REASONS... THAT BEING ONE OF THEM... THE OTHER WHAT I JUST WROTE ABOVE... AND ANOTHER BEING IF THE US WAS TO COMPLETELY CRAP OUT THEN THERE IS SOMETHING IN PLACE TO TAKE UP THE SLACK... HAHAHAH

[Jester] AT THIS TIME I AM NOT INCLINED TO THINK WE ARE GOING THE HARD WAY...

 [Jester] I REALLY AM FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THINGS RIGHT NOW...

[lulu] Jester that would be awesome

[devinehealth] Jester praying your right

 [MotoXR] Jester, last question Will all that help turn off the Feds money printing machine?

 [Jester] MotoXR NOT NECESSARILY... THAT SI A TOTALLY DIFFERENT QUESTION ALTOGETHER...

[dinar chaser] Jester Feeling Pretty Good translates into what for us?

[dinar chaser] For the world?

[lulu] Jester I'm wondering if they do a reset are the same people in charge repackaging the old and selling it as new?

[Jester] lulu NOPE... I HAVE SAID THIS LIKE A BAZILLION TIMES... THEY DO NOT... DO NOT... DO NOT... HAVE CONTROL OF THE MONETARY SYSTEM IN ANYTHING LIKE THE MANNER THEY ALWAYS DID...

[lulu] Jester that is fantabulous

[RockyMtn] Jester Someone had asked if O will tow the line or have to go?

 [Jester] RockyMtn HARD TO SAY... I SAID A LONG TIME AGO HE WOULD HAVE TO CHOOSE WHICH HOUSE TO LIVE IN... THIS IS UNDETERMINED IN MY MIND AT THIS TIME.. BUT I DO NOT THINK HE WILL TURN COLORS... SO KICKING AND SCREAMING COMES TO MIND... AND IF HE DOES NOT CHANGE THEN I THINK IT WILL GET REALLY UGLY FOR HIM....

[RockyMtn] Liberty Does anyone have a vague timeline for the GCR, etc.? I know we don't do date/rate, but I'm thinking end of Feb. to mid March???

 [devinehealth] RockyMtn pray for a breakthrough that the trigger would have to be pulled.

[RockyMtn] devinehealth I have been - it just seems like many more things are happening in the news.

[RockyMtn] devinehealth The stock market went down 325 points again today, and it's off 7% for the year. 10% is considered a "correction."

[devinehealth] RockyMtn don't give up-- when the hand of God moves it could happen tonight

[alfonse] RockyMtn Here is an interesting link from last week
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101378155

[RockyMtn] Jester You said some great things tonight already, Jester! Anything else?

 [Jester] RockyMtn WELL... LET'S SEE.. YOU GUYS MISSED SOME OF MY HINTS... YOU ARE OUT OF PRACTICE...

[Jester] THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TRACKING ALL OVER... AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USUALLY NOT THAT EXCITED ARE SORT OF WAVERING ON THEIR STANDARD ANSWERS... SOMETHING IS GOING ON... NOT SURE HOW CLOSE IT IS YET... BUT SOME OF THE RUMBLINGS ARE THAT WE ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER... SO LETS LEAVE IT FOR THERE TONIGHT AND I WILL UPDATE YOU ALL AS MORE INFORMATION COMES IN...

[Jester] THANKS EVERYONE FOR COMING IN... NICE TO SEE YOU ALL... AND THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH STRIPES...

[RockyMtn] Jester It seems to me we are close, too - esp. with the stock market, the concern over "emerging currency markets," etc.

ModelWoman] Thank you Jester ....That gives us something to have sweet dreams tonight with