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Friday, January 31, 2014

SCORPIO CHAT FROM MIG FORUM, 31 JAN

MIG:

[scorpio] Watch Out, A Currency Reset Is Coming… World Bank BOMBSHELL: The Dollar Is Collapsing ECONOMIES Read more at   http://investmentwatchblog.com/watch-out-a-currency-reset-is-coming/#zzrZw5Fir8xWa9mY.99

[scorpio] Why This Harvard Economist Is Pulling All His Money From Bank Of America    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-31/why-harvard-economist-pulling-all-his-money-bank-america

COLORADO PM POST FROM TNT FORUM, 31 JAN

Yes, I heard this directly from a fellow in Texas earlier this afternoon. He told me he received a call from a family member who is working with some bankers to put a Group deal together for about 30 friends and family members. I'm hoping more details will be forthcoming.
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By the way, none of us should be surprised to hear of the recent corrupted banking practices that Tony and DC have told us about.  In their fiat-based monetary system, banks create wealth for themselves by making loans against Customer Deposits. In actuality, the money gets loaned out over and over again, as the money is recycled back through the economy, without any new wealth added to the economy - but that's more than I want to get into here.
The more long term customer deposits a bank has, the more loans they can make, and the more profits they can make. If they can wrap up the lion's share of the dinar's contract rates with their wealthiest clients - those who don't need the money and will therefore likely reinvest their money in the banks' long term investment programs, the banks win by having a lot more money, in the form of deposits, that they can count on to make loans against.

In contrast, the large banks managing the RV can't count on the rank and file dinar holders to deposit their funds with them, as many will be paying off debt (banks lose - loss of exiting loans), giving money to churches and charities (Banks lose opportunities to their build bank reserves via customer deposits)  and buying houses, cars and toys with cash (Banks lose - no new loans), or taking the money to their personal banks (Again, the large banks lose opportunity to build their Bank Reserves). Ergo, the bankers would not see as much of the Contract Rate funds from the currency exchange as they do by controlling it.
Now it sounds like some banks are outright trying to steal our dinar funds by charging outrageous fees and spreads. Dinar holders cash in at 59 cents, while the banks cash their client's dinar in at street rate of ~$3.71.  What a good deal that is for the bankers! Not so much for their clients.
Again, I'm not saying this to just parrot what Tony claimed in his call today. I actually spoke to the fellow in Texas who's family has put together a group of 30 friends and family to sell their dinar - but, the bank is only guaranteeing them 59 cents per dinar.  I'm still trying to get more details, and hopefully I'll have them shortly.If I do, I'll come back and update this post.

DAZ POST, 31 JAN

1-31-14 Daz: WE WILL GET PAID. IT WILL HAVE TO GET A LOT WEIRDER FOR THAT NOT TO HAPPEN. THE CURRENCY IS VALID, WE BOUGHT IT LEGALLY...WE'LL EXCHANGE IT LEGALLY. THE CURRENCY IS LEGIT, I HAD A LAWFUL RIGHT TO BUY AND OWN IT AND, I WILL HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS TO EXCHANGE IT. THEIR IS NO PUBLICLY AVAILABLE PUBLICATION OR NOTICE STATING THE IQD WILL EXPIRE AT ANY DESIGNATED TIME. THE ONLY KNOWN TIME RESTRICTION APPLIES SOLELY TO THE ISSUED CONTRACT RATE FOR THE OPTION IDENTIFIED AS IQN. 

MILLIONDAY CHAT, PART 1, 31 JAN

Post From Dinar Updates By Rudie Part 1
Comments may be made at the end of Part 2  Thank You

Millionday Roundtable 1/31/14


    [millionday] i wanted to bring this last time we met to explain but remember when they said that bonds were going on the market and of course metals  - this gives a quick update as to what it means

    [millionday] , Dr. appearance of Mohammed Saleh: that the announcement of the Iraqi Central Bank intention to sell gold coins to the public would pave the way for the re-emergence of banks mortgages in order to serve the Iraqi economy.

was the central bank, and in consultation with the Committee on Economic Affairs, has decided recently coined a variety of alloys pure gold weights ranging between (5 g and 1 kg).

announced immediate measures contracted to import them and then sell them through the banking system, as this procedure represents a monetary policy tools. origins sober
     [millionday] yes roundtable is when we chat too at the end and you can bring some reports you have -- a roundtable of questions really

    [millionday] Saleh said in a statement (morning) that this measure comes to the purpose of diversification means savings for citizens and the provision of large quantities of gold from the origins of solid and reliable sold to dealers in gold, investors and segments of society, wishing the Iraqi dinar.

economist said: that this step has been the study of economic feasibility, by the Central Bank for the purpose of selling gold coins and cash and other foreign currencies as well as treasury transfers to the public soon.

    [millionday] see think of that as well -- gold dealers -- so an established market there as well --

    [millionday] so after this came out they announced that it was time to set all the tools and regulations they had to get ready for selling and buying foreign currency

    [millionday] and explained that this measure would contribute to the return of banks mortgages that accept mortgages Almkhclat gold for the money you borrow citizen to walk its affairs from buying houses or cars or other,

 He pointed out that the current safeguards required by the banks is a mortgage has contributed significantly to the decline in the proportion of credit to very low levels as measured by rates of credit for other Arab countries. ,

and pointed out that a central bank that would raise the proportion of credit (loans granted by banks to citizens ), which amounts to 5 percent, a very small percentage of Ataatmashy with liquidity in government banks.

    [millionday] so this will also help with mortgages and fund banking as well  so loans -- meaning an active economy  - thats what we want and they are moving forward so this is happy days to see this

    [millionday] He added that the citizen has absolute confidence in dealing with the government, which means that he trusts gold imported by being assured and the origins of global best of the items imported traders at the moment,

and thus this procedure will enhance the chances of increasing credit including reflect positively on improving the situation of citizens living and the national economy in general.

pointed out that there are a lot of people have the amounts of gold and do not have a property underscores the need to return the banks mortgages Trahan gold in return for cash for periods certain interest rate agreed upon by the two sides,

adding that the measure will move also wheel of the national economy towards the construction and reconstruction and moving a lot of sectors of the economy

    [millionday] there was a time when people wanted gold instead of dinar -- cant really blame them -- i think all countries have had that time in their history many times - so they need to make understand that some will be imported gold from the globe as well --

    millionday] this is full of info on where they are going -- which is great but it all leads to one place -- liquidity for banks   that is what we like  smile  brb with more

    [slh5282] Millionday, when do loans start? Are they going to sell their own gold reserves?

    [millionday] they are saying to be prepared the beginning of this month --- we should see it then if they are on time -- but this is iraq smile

    [slh5282] Millionday, does that mean Feb

    [Danalivin4HIM] can they possibly do all of this without an increase in the value of the dinar?

    [millionday] yes they are trying to have everything prepared for feb

    [slh5282] Millionday, thank you

    [millionday] i have a hard time seeing how but we shall see

    Danalivin4HIM] millionday thank you

    [slh5282] Are they selling their gold or bring additional volume in to the country?

    [millionday] i am sure that globally it would be a good move to sell them gold with their currency raising in value

    [millionday] yw all the time

    [millionday] slh5282 both

    [millionday] brb with more

    [slh5282] ok thank you I will stop now

    [millionday] kind of doesnt make sense when countries do that but it keeps activity going and is playing the market -- investing

    [millionday] no need roundtable is for questions hun -- feel free to talk -- we like participation

    [scuffy] It's February for them in two hours time.

    [slh5282] I would think if they raise their currency then if you are buying $1200/oz. gold then say it is 3-1 for discussion the cost of 400 iqn. not a bad buy

    [theinn] What are they buying the gold with, dinar or US$

    [rcbegan] Hypothetically, if gold was $1,000 oz, priced on the global market in USD, they would need 1,166,000 dinars to purchase an oz of gold, or if they sold an oz of gold, they would receive 1,166,000 dinars in return.

    [slh5282] theinn, if they buy with Dinar they need to raise the value but why buy with dinar now and have a huge lay out of cash for gold that is $1200 which would be about 1 milliion IQN rather than raise the value of their money

    [millionday] right it makes no sense to me

    [millionday] Stressed the religious authority, Grand Ayatollah Sheikh Bashir al-Najafi, Wednesday, the importance of proper planning for the management of great wealth in the country, and expressed his frustration at the persistence of poverty and deprivation, despite the wealth of the many and large.

 Said Sheikh Ali al-Najafi, director of the Office of the reference Najafi for "time", that "the reference Najafi received a delegation from the people of the province of Basra

    [millionday] gold is a set global market -- the pricing is set throughout the globe  -- so to sell and buy on the stock market as announced on wed -- makes much more sense

    [rcbegan] Help Gurus - if the Dinar goes from 1166 to 1 USD to sa 1.16Dinars to 1 USD what are the mechanics within Iraqs financial system to support the increase in Dinar value??

    [millionday] the entire monetary policy

    [slh5282] millionday, if the price is set then they would be smart to buy futures rather than actual product and hold until the contract is complete and either sell or buy

    [millionday] the budget is supported by private and gov sectors

    [slh5282] and if the market is like most through out the world futures only require a 10% cash out lay but you better have reserves just in case

    [millionday] they are going to a market economy so the reality of what the value of the dinar is will support the value as it does in all countries that have a reality rate

    [millionday] it is calculated through their gdp -- revenues of market and investments -- capital gains etc etc -- so the value will be supported by the reality of economy of the country and therefore grow as well

    rcbegan] Millionday what % of the Iraq economy is oil sales which is based on the USD, it seems that the oil sales should support some of the reserve needed??

    [carpet] Do you have any idea what the really rate would be I mean a Guess

    millionday] rcbegan yes but cbi transfers it to dinar for them and the usd is a reserve currency

    [millionday] rcbegan the oil sale were put in the budget at 96% i think right at it ---

    [slh5282] rcbegan, the majority of the current income for the country is OIL is that correct Millionday

    [slh5282] 96%

    [millionday] they wrote the budget at reality  -- we wondered how they were going to do it and that came out wed

    [slh5282] so is the budget based at 1166 or another number?

    [millionday] yes thats correct right now but not the goal

    [slh5282] which is the reality rate

    [millionday] when they open to a market economy they are planning on diversification - they call this budget the reality budget so i would say not to enter the market economy -- 1166 is an imposed rate --- not reality - that is why we invested  smile

    [slh5282] Millionday, so that will open them up for the WTO as well correct?

    [millionday] reality and diversification is demanded by the wto

    [millionday] correct

    [rcbegan] I thought the budget was based on the Dinar at 1.16 based on the USD??

    [millionday] rcbegan noone knows what the rate is hun

    [millionday] Karbala called Supreme religious authority, on Friday, to overcome all the obstacles to the extradition of nationals electronic cards for the elections,

while noting that the fate of Iraq and where to go is unknown, demanded sorting between those who want the best for Iraq and those who want to ruin him.

He ÇáßŃČáÇĆí in a Friday sermon from kindergarten Husseiniya in Karbala, attended by "tomorrow Press", "The experience of electronic card is good but you need to educate to understand the citizen's way of receiving,

 and there are those who do not know where I went their data and when it goes to the polling stations to query it Egged no conclusive answer," calling to "overcome all obstacles to the delivery of those cards to citizens." and

    festool] If Iraq is to be basil compliant , their currency has to be asset backed . In other words they already know what they have in the ground . According to some #'s I have seen they could potentially support a 3+ range

    [millionday] festool they have said they are going to be gold backed

    [festool] Millionday exactly

    [j10000] millionday Wasn't there an article you brought in awhile ago that stated iraq owns tons of gold. or am I dreaming?

    [millionday] here we go  -  here is more of the stock market plans

    [millionday] Iraq is seeking to become its market for securities and increasingly important source of capital for national companies by expanding the base of traded companies and ask them to sell their shares in which he urged more companies limited openness and switch to joint-stock companies.

 And knows the stock market as a place which is supervised by hand economic official, and contains an electronic system whereby a meeting of buyers and sellers for the type of securities or financial asset specific,

and enable investors from trading stocks and bonds within either through intermediaries or companies operating in this area and rises or falls in value securities and financial assets, according to the sale and purchase offers.

    [j10000] 30 tons...sorry darn computer

    [millionday] j10000 oh they own huge gold

    [millionday] And includes the Iraqi market for securities Iraq Stock Exchange, which symbolizes his short ISX 74 joint stock company listed on the stock exchange sectors are major banks and industrial services, insurance, agriculture, hotels and communications company represented by one of the mobile telecommunications

    [millionday] and it will expand – smile  huge market potential  huge

MILLIONDAY CHAT, PART 2, 31 JAN

[millionday] It is noted that there is worldwide interest in the stock exchange through the transfer of trading sessions directly on economic sites, including Web sites that encourage foreign investment in the stock market and stocks Iraq where they consider evidence of actual activity to the movement of the labor market in the country.

And calls for an academic economist to the expansion of businesses and the transition from limited to contribute because it would live up to the performance of competitors in addition to the direct transformation of state-owned enterprises into joint stock companies through the sale of shares in the form of a gradual process in order to facilitate the transition to a market economy.
     [millionday] i love seeing the words transition to a market economy – smile - that is the report and plan of the what they expect from their market

    [allanlantrip1975] millionday with all the news youve brought us,and by the way your the greatest,can you make a guess when this might happen

    [millionday] i can say they seem to be in a rush to get it transitioned to a market economy and following it with the wto in the back of our heads makes it seem to be very close

    [swan2013] millionday I LIKE THE WORD CLOSE !!!*

    [millionday] a market economy is run on supply and demand

    [rudie] allanlantrip1975 flattery with a trick question!! hmmm! nice try!

    [allanlantrip1975] like this month maybe

    [millionday] rudie lol

    [allanlantrip1975] and thank you

    [rudie] millionday* lol

    [millionday] i know pretty good huh

    [millionday] allanlantrip1975 lol

    [millionday] rudie lol

    [rudie] allanlantrip1975 allanlantrip1975 jk* *lol

    [millionday] let me check if anything else came out brb

    slh5282] Millionday, that is stepping out on a limb there for you.* *

    [allanlantrip1975] well i tried* *

    [slh5282] She will never give a specific rate or a specific date

    [millionday] House of Representatives to raise its regular Thursday, which was scheduled on the agenda to discuss its financial budget of the country for the year 2014 to Saturday.

And raising the head of the Council Osama Algeevi session after the disruption of the quorum required for the number of members present as a result of the Kurdish province of Representatives for the hearing and who are opposed to the draft budget as approved by the Council of Ministers.

    [millionday] The MP said the coalition of state law, Ihsan al-Awadi's "Twilight News" that the Kurdish deputies boycotted the session today as a result of the inclusion of the discussion of the draft budget on the agenda. He added that the quorum required for the number of members present disturbed, prompting the head of the Council to adjourn the meeting to next Saturday.

The Kurds seek to export oil from the fields directly to Turkey via a new pipeline completed late last year, but Baghdad refuses to this endeavor and says it only right owner in the management of oil wealth.

    [millionday] here comes agenda

    [millionday] First, read verses from the Koran.

Second: The vote on the draft labor law. ( Committee for Labor and Social Affairs , the Committee on the institutions of civil society). (Article 157). (The remaining 134 items).

Third: The final report of the parliamentary sub-committee responsible for monitoring the project and the Ministry of Education No. (1.2) and on the subject of re-building mud schools and ramshackle.

Fourth: the first reading of the proposed law to amend the Criminal Procedure Code No. (23) for the year 1971. (Legal Committee). (3 items).

    [millionday] note -- the schools are being funded to go to a much more modern look  - mud schools are so outdated

    [millionday] Fifth: the first reading of a bill to preserve the documents. ( Legal Committee , the Committee on Culture and Information). (Article 15).

Sixth: The second reading of the draft law regulating the work of counselors. ( Legal Committee ). (Article 5).

Seventh: the second reading of the proposed law to honor scientists, writers, artists and scholars State Prize). (Committee on Culture and Information, Commission of Higher Education and Scientific Research , Commission of Awqaf and Religious Affairs). (Article 14).

    [millionday] Eighth: the second reading of the draft law of the First Amendment to the law on compensation for those affected by the military operations and the mistakes of military and terrorist operations No. (20) of 2009. (For security and defense committee, the Finance Committee , the Committee of Martyrs and victims and political prisoners , the Legal Committee ). (Article 18).

IX: the second reading of a bill establishing civil federal health institutions. (Committee on Health and the Environment, Legal Committee ). (Article 19).

Tenth: The second reading of the draft law on passports. ( Legal Committee , the Commission on Security and Defence ). (Article 22).

    [millionday] victim disbursement – huge  - passports and we know that work visas have already been addressed

    [millionday] they used to only be able to stay days -- impossible to set up a business in that amount of time and also the one stop shop will come from the news of the e-government

    [millionday] Eleventh: the second reading of the draft law amending the Law on Judicial Fees No. (114) for the year 1981. ( Finance Committee , Legal Committee ). (Article 31). Begins the session time: ten in the morning.

    [millionday] know they are working tonight as well on the budget i have something else on the budget

    [pamie27] millionday millionday I have been in this for 8 years and I listen and read all this and wooooosh right over my head... this is all good news if it all goes through right?

    [millionday] yes all very good news  - the reach to a market economy means the currency will be internationally recognized – smile  - in an egg shell

    [larrykn] millionday if the do the first reading of the budget tomorrow how much longer before they do the second reading

    [millionday] the first reading has been done imo --  hold on have some new news coming in -- dont go anywhere  - so sorry getting something sent to me  - here -- is this is this in the mean time

    [millionday] Deputy Chairman of the Kurdistan Alliance bloc MP Muhsin Al-Saadoun, said Thursday that the current budget is imminent and will be passed in acceptable form serves all components of the Iraqi people.

Sadoun said at a press conference attended by deputies of the coalition of Kurdistan: Kurdistan Alliance held a meeting this morning to discuss the budget on all sides,

Stressing that the Kurds with the approval of the budget to serve Iraqi citizens, Adding that a Committee was formed starting Saturday talks with other blocs about all the points specific budget,

 rejecting at the same time the scenario last year once again, the theme of the budget does not want them to be within the campaign.

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    [millionday] ok hold on i have it and am checking it – verifying  brb

    [DBJJ] millionday So, this is why it's not on the parliament agenda. They've formed a committee of the blocs to review before bringing it back?

    [millionday] no it is on the agenda  - they do have blocks though but they have it on the agenda as well

    [millionday] brb let me check this

    [slh5282] rcbegan, you are only looking at the gold, that does not include the oil, the diamond mines, silver, ag products, there is a large amount of capabilities that is not being looked at but just OIL

    [slh5282] THe isx is turning some large profits on it own. the mobile communication in the mid-east is becoming a large player in the market as well

    [millionday] lets look at this

    [rcbegan] slh5282 I was only responding to MDs comment on Iraq wanting to be a gold based economy??

    [millionday] slh5282 oh yes and it will boom

    [millionday] gold backed -- i have heard that they may have to use some oil as well -- but hard backed with international compliance standards

    [slh5282] millionday, the other thing that no one is counting is the large cash reserves that is including NOW the DFI $$

    [millionday] not glad

    [millionday] slh5282 right --

    [millionday] smile

    [millionday] Primary objective of the central bank is working to achieve price stability in local and foreign currency exchange rate, not the distribution of money to the merchants by their banks as imagined by many who have given the impression that the so-called auction is a commercial operation, not monetary policy.

The stability of prices, no, it simply requires that corresponds to supply all the demand, and in the field of foreign currency that corresponds to the width of each foreign currency demand, and in the light of that achieved a certain exchange rate can be changed depending on the circumstances of inflation mainly.

This means that you must satisfy demand for foreign currency in full (after confirming that the central bank has received a certificate banks gap in its operations from money laundering,

and that there are no irregularities banking prevent the bank concerned from entering the auction of foreign currency), and meet the demand in full will prevent the creation of market

    [millionday] so they were using the auction as a tool and now the set of prices for the dinar and the products etc -- that is the tool they are most involved and excited about -- foreign currency pricing to establish their reserves in a reality rate and amount

    [millionday] with the reserves they have -- the rate of that foreign currency is important to be set  as another avenue to what is happening and why  smile

    [millionday] Another exchange, and thus ensure the stability of the exchange rate and lack of pluralism. This method, which satisfy the demand and what it means for the currency flow, does not involve smuggling or wastage of the coin.

 It also does not fall into neglect because it essentially has been dinar and dollar swap that insatiable demand.

 The ability that we have to satisfy all the demand derived from the large reserves that we have built in the Central Bank over the years.

Were it not for this reserve we were forced to reduce the dinar exchange rate and change all the time, and this is what leads to the loss of the exchange rate and stability.

It may be asked some foreign currency from banks too big and the result of large deposits of Iraqi dinars.

We assume that failure to meet this demand will lead to a jolt in prices and create another market, so the information about the details of this request must be submitted, after the mission is to lead the market or currency auction, to the circle of money laundering

    [millionday] note -- they must change the rate --- in a hurry

    [Danalivin4HIM] That I understand* *

    [rudie] AMEN

    [millionday] Gave us the large size of the reserve sufficient flexibility to use monetary policy to fight inflation, which had reached about 50% in 2004, we started to raise the dinar against the dollar in the year to encourage outflows, Kalastairadat and others, and therefore reduced the pressure on the internal market.

At the same time we raised interest rates to move funds into the financial market of the real market. If the reserve is the one who ensures the stability of the exchange rate, but this should not being disposed to these purposes.

    [millionday] so this is to move to the real market -- the globe  smile

    [millionday] they are in fear of another market being established and the pride they have in their currency out weighs ours -- it is a pride thing there like their flag and anthem -- this is an embarrassment the value of their currency --

    [millionday] they are working on getting their stock market out to the world -- the first product needed by that is the dinar and at a value that makes sense – reality  -- by real calculations

    [millionday] see the rate is just a n imposed rate -- means nothing -- they can not call it the value of their currency -- it has to make sense by what they have in revenues , resources, gdp etc

    [larrykn] and that is why I think they want a higher rate so they don't look bad to other countries

    Domino] millionday Do you have any idea what the value of Iraq is in USD?

    [millionday] larrykn it is part of it -- in the region it is a joke

    [millionday] no i dont know 

KMONEY POST FROM TNT FORUM: VIETNAMESE DONG AT $.41 CENTS, 31 JAN

My friend just called Wells Fargo in North Carolina and ask about the dongs contract rate,told the contract rate was not available ,but we could exchange At 41 cent ,told him to wait to get the international rate,I am in Los Angeles ,I callEd travelx,and you can get dong for 64 dollars per million ,so iam going to call some banks and see what happens 

TNT CALL TODAY, 31 JAN

TNT Call 31-Jan-2014
This the worst call I’ve ever had to make.  I shouldn’t be on this call, I should be on a beach somewhere.  But here we are:  the rich getting richer while we still wait.
This is going to be a two-part call, longer than usual call because I will expose you to the reality of the UST, IMF and the banking so everyone understands what is happening. Before that, all the call centers are fully manned and the exchange centers are manned.  They are being told that this is happening today.  Now you know!  And I’m going to tell you a whole lot of other things that will make decisions easier for you.
Many Tier 2 and 3 banks have been notified that over 100 currencies will be revalued on Monday.  We’ve called a few and they say that they should be exchanging on Monday. Because the memo has gone out bankwide, there have been bank meetings to let them know that this is REAL.  They briefed them that 80+ currencies have already revalued, and are now waiting for this to go public.
Twice yesterday they were told that the 800 numbers will be out and to wait for the phones to ring. I hope it really does go through, but I wish I could be more confident. They are being told from upper management that this is it, and that it’s going to happen today.  That is what happened yesterday, and they didn’t send people home until 1am.  Then they called them back in today. They gave them a time later today when this should be done, and it’s not midnight.
A lot of people said “This is positive stuff”, but we’ve heard it all before, and we know what’s going on above their heads, and it’s not today.
On the positive side, everything is ready and there is no excuse.  The system is working;  it’s at the bank level, and yesterday over 25,000 people were paid out!  They were paying different groups of people, charging them 26% for some groups.  I’m supposed to get copies of their NDAs this evening.  I’ve read it and they’ve asked to explain certain parts to them.
I’ve got to tell you something:  this is a hard call for me to make, because I so believe in our government and way of life, and in our administration.  I can’t believe the things that I’m hearing.  These cannot be the people I voted for – they cannot be this corrupt.  When you are supposed to support your people and then let this go on for two months.  And it’s not by accident – it was planned for three to four years.
The three people that can change this at any given time, and all of them have the opportunity to do this and none have done it, so they must be in collusion.  The Tier 2 and 3 banks have no idea how they have been abused and marginalized.  They are now figuring it out, from the calls we have got from them.  They are figuring out that they were left out of this game completely, just like us.
The IMF has said that they support the American people, but they haven’t got it done.  Our own government has sat back and watched this happen (or made this happen).  For the last two years, we’ve been getting great inside information, before it becomes public.  Our understanding is that we’ve been getting it because we’re less full of shoot than everyone else.  As the other agencies got involved and supported us, I kept hearing that there are at least 11 agencies that listen in on this call and my private phone calls.  That’s okay;  I don’t mind.  They’ll be listening to my calls for the rest of my life, because I'm not ashamed of anything I’m doing.  They are all agreed that we are doing the right thing, exposing the right things, and supporting the right people – you guys.  So there is a really, really hard for me, to say what I’m about to say, because I have so much respect for the people who I’m going to talk about.  But they are not giving us any choice.
We’ve got all the good info from these guys, and we are getting this next piece from those same guys.  They like that we are supporting the right people;  I’ve had so many calls from agencies saying that “we’ve got your back”.  I know we are being used.  We’ve been used before to keep everyone involved and with good information.  We get no benefit from this.  I didn’t want to do this, but got asked to do this, and feel a sense of responsibility that you get some of the right information.  There are people out there giving you the wrong information because they don’t know anything, or for their own purposes.  I am trying to make sure no one can take advantage of good honest people.
These groups are being charged 26%, and as soon as I get the NDA I will go through it and try and give it to you guys.   I have sympathy that didn’t understand what they are doing by accepting what they did.  Some are going to have second thoughts, but…
The question is:  Why does the IMF keep saying they are going to do something, and they are not doing anything?  They still want that high rate so they can get their worldwide programs paid for.   Well, they said they are being paid for.  The cash outs that have been done – where is that money going?  Through the investigations, we’ll be able to tell who was right and who was wrong.  There is a long explanation, and some will get it right away and some will not.
My understanding is that money is being moved right now into accounts in and out – third party accounts – moved around the world, not always being recorded.  I don’t know that because I don’t have the books, but that is the information we’ve been getting in this process. There is a reason they are doing it.  I am just passing on information about why this is being done the way it is.  As long as those pet projects, then okay, I have to make it look like we are doing the right thing (whether it is right or not).
I’m looking at this – does it make sense?  I don’t really know.  I am just giving you all an overview.  They are passing along documents saying this is what’s going on and we can prove it when it comes time. So the answer to that question is that the IMF is being paid to do it this way so that they can fund their projects.  They will accept the blame (the IMF) because no one can sue or indict them.  They cannot be forced to do investigations or indictments, but they always seem to forget that the public is there.  Once this hits the streets, you can’t put that milk back in the bottle. Once the people know about this, they will know that you are the ones abusing them.
There are certain people in the administration still trying to block this, right now.  They don’t want us to have the contract rate.  Actually, at one point they didn’t want us to be involved at all, because this wasn’t for us, but for the inner circle – the ones who go paid in December.  Everybody knows that.
So what happened in December was all supposed to happen and then it was supposed to go away.  We weren’t supposed to know!   So how do we legally do away with the contract rate after paying the inner circle?  That is still the question in this administration group that is blocking this.  We voted these people into office to have a change and equality, and it sickens me to hear what we are hearing and seeing t—that it’s going on and they are still trying to cover it up.  We heard it was about protecting the world and our economy, and now we find out it’s about supporting your friends and campaign donors, and nobody else.  This is about the Democrats and some Republicans, and I hate to say that.  There is a bunch of Republicans who want us to make this public because they believe that the administration cannot deal with one more scandal.  I’m a Democrat and I support the government and administration, and this is making me sick.
Guys, we will have a turn, and I don’t care if we have to do one state or district at a time. There are five million dinarians who have ten people each they would have given money to.  We can make a change and take the initiative to get this done.  So that’s another part:  the administration.  There are people in the government who are saying “I didn’t know anything about this.”  I need you to call all your senators and congressmen, and send an email TODAY so that no one can say “I didn’t know”.  If each one gets hundreds of calls or emails, there is no way they wouldn’t have shown their bosses.  So we have to protect ourselves here.  We need to tweet and call and email, so there is no way they can say they didn’t  know about it.  Next we’ll start on FB, and we know that will go viral.  They are already defecting and turning on each other, saying, “You said they would never investigate this”, but all that is wrong.  We all hoped the right thing would be done so there wouldn’t have to be an investigation.  But they are still trying to stop this while covering themselves.  I was happy that the exchange centers are powering up, but we have heard that they have been that ready, three minutes away from this happening before it got shut down.  But they are turning on each other now.  A lot of people will lose jobs, resignations, pensions and they will end up in jail if this goes to the streets, and they are all looking for someone to blame.
 AS with the real estate crash, everyone will look at the banks, because they are part of what is going on.  In the last few weeks, they realized that they are being set up to take the blame!  Senators and Reps are lining their pockets with trust accounts so they don’t have to report it to the IRS.  But if there is an investigation, they will be exposed by people will not let them get away with it.  We wanted to avoid this, but I guess they want us to do it.
A third part is from the banking system.  They were being told who to cash out, who not to cash out, and at what rates.  They were just following orders, and they are still doing it today!  People are exchanging right now, and the banks are “just following orders”.  That is not an excuse that works in the military.  Years ago, a group of soldiers came across a village, and someone gave them orders to shoot all the unarmed villagers, like dogs in the street.  Afterwards, their defense was that they were following orders.  You are not just a soldier, you are also a human being that knows what is morally right.  So if the bankers use that as their excuse, the public is not going to go with that.  That doesn’t work.  We are the unarmed old men and women, the children who got gunned down. We are the ones going hungry and being killed.  They know it’s wrong, but their answer is that the administration told them to do this. 
Now they are wanting to protect themselves.  Even the banks are saying ‘enough is enough’.  They didn’t mind shooting down the first few villages, but now they are uncomfortable shooting down the blind, crippled and crazy, which is how they see us.  They know what is about to happen to them – the CEOs and such that took part in all this. They think they are in the grey area.  Banks are doing this for the money, and they say the money is going to these other programs.  Now even the banks are saying it’s not right with the left hand while they pocket millions of fees with the other hands.  If you know it’s wrong, stop doing it!  If you know they are doing something crooked, expose them!  The banks send the memos to the lower level banks, saying Get ready for Monday.  The banks told their own employees that it is as scam because they have already done exchanges and 100 countries have revalued.  Their people are not idiots – they are going out and buying it!  Dinar, dong and Zim are going to go through the roof.  It’s going to spread like wildfire now that the banks are acknowledging it to their own employees.  Now it’s going from five million to ten to however many…  They go from 10% knowing about it to 50% employees walking out because they are mad at the banks for lying to them for the last ten years. 
I don’t think people just for my own benefit but to come on this call and talk about it. That way no on can say they didn’t know.  The tables are turning right now.  I said two weeks ago that they don’t care who they throw in front of the bus, saying “He told them to shred that document;  He didn’t tell me that they did this and that”.  We have the documents, recordings of the calls, and all the rest.  They cannot say they didn’t know!  The banks know that the government is only there for a certain term and they are more protected.  The banks are the easier target.  We the people get to decided which banks get be be Tier 1, 2 or 3 banks;  we get to decide which banks to use for our deposit.  We get to decide what day we take all our money out and put it into banks that actually help and support us.
I was happy yesterday that it looked like we were getting on with this.  I never wanted to do this call.  WE don’t want to release this over the weekend because it’s too easy to hide on the weekend.  The banks are doing what they want to do, and we have to do the same because we are on the losing end here.  They have accomplished what they wanted to accomplish and now it’s just about greed.  We could help the world with this!  We could be helping ourselves and others;   we could be our own stimulus plan. The only explanation that makes sense is people being greedy and wanting more.
We are hearing things are primed to go but we don’t know if it will go.  They are playing this game with their own people so that they will buy it, so that we will buy it.  They think that his is it, all excited, and then they get sent home all depressed.  This is not about all bankers;  they are being lied to just as we are.  It’s at the bank level.  Just do it!  Now the banks are putting it out to the other banks, and say they are exposed it to cover their own butts.  They don’t want this to go public until next week sometimes, and it’s not Monday!  I don’t want to believe this, but every day they keep proving they are right – they are dragging this out. Even though they are telling everyone this is the very last day… Well, that is the fifth time they have said that!  I keep thinking they cannot lie to people at this level, but they lie to them every day.
When we were going through basic training and tech school, even at spring training, they always say:  Look at the man to your left, look at the man to your right;  when it comes to the time, one of them will not be there.  So…
210, good morning!
Caller:  Any idea why they’d push this thing to Wednesday or whenever?
Tony:  Or Thursday or Friday… next sometime.  I don’t want to tell you the reasons because you really be mad and go public ten minutes from now.  I don’t want to go until we have no other choice.  We are hearing this afternoon, and I’ve told you things I’ve been hearing all week.  I hope they do this right because I don’t want to be involved in politics. One side wants us to do one thing, and the other wants us to do something else. I am a democrat, and I would hate to do something like that. I don’t want to be involved with the banking industry either.  Just let me exchange my money and get on with my life.  As I told my intel team, though, I don’t know what else to do.  These people supported us and our intel, and I have to support them and do what’s right. Somebody said, “Can’t you get the people to accept three dollars?” and I asked, “Do you really thing that is right thing to do when they’ve used up the first trillion, didn’t do the right thing, and you want to convince the people to take three dollars?”  I have to live with me.  I know people should have the opportunity to get more than $3. 
If they do put this scenario together, trying to say the IMF forced them limit us to $3, using us as a bargaining chip to get a certain rate, and then they were abused…  Somebody will have something to say.  When the 80% go broke in two years, I know they will come back and say “I should have had more”.  These people making this decision are not thinking this through.  This could be done in thirty minutes, and it could all be over without investigations, people pointing fingers, people going to jail.  They just keep playing with fire here.  Once you strike a match and set the woods ablaze, that’s not easy to put out!
Caller:  This thing was set up and we weren’t supposed to know about it.  Our government lost control of the GCR, and now they are trying to get back in control.  I wish they would just do the right thing.  What if we do just end up with three dollars?
Tony:  We take the $3, and we show what we can do – what changes we can make in the economy, the banking system, and the government.
Is there a plan of action?  Yes, there is a plan of action before and even after, fi that’s what we have to do.  We do it step by step, because there are timing issues.  I just want to live my life like everyone else.   We do NOT want people to expose this in the newspapers and such until I tell you the moment is right.  I do NOT want you sign any petitions at whitehouse.gov.  Tony didn’t put that up or ask you to sign it.  If Tony wants you to do something, it will be on a Tony call or blast or tweet.  If you didn’t hear Tony say that, then Tony didn’t ask you to do this.  When we do it, it’s going to be very public, not a petition that someone can throw in a drawer somewhere.  This process isn’t like that, and we don't need people to get burnt out.  That is not how I would do it, so stop that right now!
Next caller:  I’m a little discouraged.  My question:  Who were you told was going to give you the 800 numbers?   It would answer a lot of questions…
Tony:  Well, they were going to give us the 880 numbers, the got made at us because the calls changed.  Well, they changed because the information and the process changed. I’m still trying to make the process as smooth as possible.  Only one person can give out the 800 numbers.
Caller: You mentioned a small group blocking this;  are they screwing us out of a higher rate, or to screw us out of everything?
Tony:  My understanding is both.  My question is:  Why wouldn’t you want to go into the economy?  Maybe they only want one side to have money, or maybe because they think some people won’t use it wisely.  Money doesn’t make you smart.  But the positive outweighs the negative in that thinking.  Many people have NOT exchanged yet, and possibly that is because they won’t agree to what these other people signed or agreed to.  If they can take it away from them, then can take it away from us.  But there are too many people who are willing to stand up for the people when it becomes time.  Others are willing to accept the clawback because what they will get afterwards will be better.  Let’s just get this done and get on with our lives.  That’s what I want.
Caller:  The bankers and politicians are going this together?
Tony:  The bankers are certainly part of it.  They are now saying “we know this was wrong;  this is just too much greedy.  They told us to do it, but now we are going too far and crossing the line;  now we know we are being set up and will be blamed when it hits the public.”  Yes, the bankers did it;  they were told to do a certain amount and they did it, even though it was wrong.  They don’t mind taking the investigations but not the jail time when their bank goes from Tier 1 to Tier 4, and they see moving out every day.  Their boards will blame the people who allowed them.
Caller:  One name comes to my mind when I think of this situation:  Bernie Madoff.  It’s greed, they just don’t care, and they sould be ashamed of themselves.
Tony:  Google money, google the banking system, and you’ll see that the banks are doing the same thing as Bernie Madoff – every day.  The only difference is that the banks were authorized to do it and Bernie Madoff was not authorized.  If we go to the bank and tried to take out all our money, we’d find that it’s not there.
334?  716, good morning!
Caller:  No so superfantastic now…
Tony:  I want to be, and the news was so good yesterday.  Everyone was so ready to be done and get on with their jobs.  The bank employees were ready for us to come in and exchange.  I know what time they are bringing in like they did before, and yet I’m getting information that they are still trying to block it.  I am so tired of this!
Caller:  If that money is clawed back, where does it go?
Tony:  I don’t know.  I imagine the money will got to the government somewhere and we’ll never see it.
Caller:  Do you remember that movie with people being ‘mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more’?  This small crowd of people blocking this:  put them in solitary confinement until it’s done.
Tony:  They say they are doing it in our interests, and I could believe that up to the beginning  of December.  That’s not the case now.  But at a certain point, as this gets exposed and how this is affecting their family because bankers and politicians lined their pockets… It doesn’t have to be us exposing it, it could be someone running against them. But once it starts unraveling, they will realize that they could have done the right thing and avoided all this.
Caller:  I hope we don’t forget in November what went on now.
407:  What are your recommendations on spreads and fees when we exchange?
Tony:  Only nine weeks?  You cannot get much newer than that.  I think any fees are too much to pay!  They are going to have your money and make interest on it every day.  You put your deposits in their bank, and based on those deposits, they can loan eight dollars for every dollar in their accounts.  They just created eight more dollars out of your dollar, charging them interest, and they are making 10% or 12% off your money to make money.  That is how it works.  They make money off your money and then charge you fees. You’re going to charge me a fee to deposit 20 million in your bank?  I’m sure I can find a Tier 2 bank that won’t.
973:  Thank you for all you are doing, and pray for your protection, in Jesus’ Name.
Tony:  I was smoking a cigar with a friend yesterday, and we were discussing this.  My friend said “You know they are going to come after you, find some way to retaliate.”  I asked him and I’ll ask you:  What else would you have me do?  What else can I do at this point?  It was the right thing to do when they were feeding me that information and now it’s not the right thing to do?  Okay, I’ll watch out, but I don’t have any choice at this point.  These guys have supported me for three year, they have listened to every word, and now that the officials don’t want them to hear these things, I should turn and walk away?  A lot of their own people say that they’ve got our back and they support us.  I’m not making the decisions about what to do and not do for the American people.  I’m must telling people the real information.
I really didn’t want to have this call today.  There is good information with the rates, the call centers and such, that I thought we would be able to discuss.  But today I got a lot of negative stuff I thought we were already past.  They are already turning on either other and getting their ‘protection package’ in line.  We are not bringing to the public – they are the ones playing with fire. On my side, they are warning me that Tony is  a four-letter word with some people, but some are glad that I am doing the right thing.  I get to listen to both side. 
[missed a bit] You don’t know who is trying to help us get through this.  So please don’t think you know what to do and when.  Get READY, don’t go public.  Send calls, emails and letters to your Congress people and bankers, with time stamps.  If you go off half-****ed, you will look silly and there will be no one to back you up.  We don’t need your threads telling people to sign petitions or talk to reporters, and delete them if you already have.  Those do not help anything!
760:  Wish everything was on track;  we’ve been in this for seven years.  Do you think they are trying to block us getting anything?
Tony:  I can’t answer that until we get to the bank?  I am getting info that there are people in meetings to block us still, but I also get info that they’ll not be able to pull that off.
Caller:   Is it their purpose to get more for themselves?
Tony:  I can’t really answer that.  If they tell us they used up the trillion paying out their friends, neighbors and relatives, then you can draw your own conclusions.  Now the banks are realizing that they are being set up to take the fall, so hopefully they will take action to open this up.  They cannot have it both ways, saying they know it’s wrong but still taking the money.
Caller:  We have to stop listening to what politicians say and watch what they do. We have to fix this, so we cannot quit tweeting.  We have to go forward and do what needs to be done.  I believe it will be effective and we do have a voice if we stay together.
Tony:  We are trying to do this the right way, and there is a WAY to do it, not helter-skelter with everyone sending in their own view to the news, etc.  That is not the right way to do it.  You do have power, and ‘there’s money in the ghetto’.  They can be as poor as they want to be, but if there is something they really want, they find the money.  That’s where trends are set:  music, clothing, all kinds of trends.  WE ARE THE GHETTO in this situation.  If you look at Forbes’ richest 400, it ends at a billion.  There are 350 million of us, and our money all moving out of a bank will have more effect than their billions. We do have power when we act together. 
I like that the banks are now positioning themselves to tell the truth, and politicians who are speaking up for us.  In the end, they have the money but we have the power, because WE are the people!
[Had to stop here as I have an appointment with my banker…]

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 31 JAN

1-31-2014   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   I have good sources that say there are at least 5 or 6 plans that have been discussed. I am not so sure they have decided on an end result yet.  I heard different numbers  from $1, $1.25 to $1.50 that is entirely believable as an entry place and  it could be really low.    I have talked to some very good economists and if it comes out in that very low range it's not going to be very long, 3, 4, 5 maybe 6 weeks, before it's up to a pretty good number.  Personally I think no matter what it comes out at in 6 months to a year after some political realignment we might see the natural value of the dinar where it should be, probably $2.85 to 3.45 on the high side.

1-31-2014   Intel Guru Bluwolf
   We are within moments in seeing our prize possession take its valor. There will not be any lack of monies for all banks have covered all three tier factors and you will be dealt with exactly and at the same level as the tier before you.   This International Release will appear as planned...The lapse of these next two weeks will be the pinnacle point of this Global Reset being officialized in its entirety through the media...the reset already happened and the media is leaking it slowly.

1-31-2014   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
   Unfortunately, we have no say in the process or the timeframe.  Iraq needs to find a way to pass laws for economic reform, budget, etc.  so the country can move forward.  I am hoping that Maliki will be gone in April and someone new will have more success in uniting all political/tribal parties.  Otherwise, all the efforts by these various economists, agencies etc. seem to fall on deaf ears.   It has to be very frustrating for the IMF, WB, IIER etc.

1-31-2014  Newshound Guru Enorrste
    I read today that the CBI has stated that they plan to have the banking restructured in Iraq by the end of 2014.  This may be a hint that they are going to hold off until the end of the year with any major change in the exchange rate regime.  We can always hope that they will feel confident enough prior to the end of the year to get the ball rolling, but when I read the statement I got a queezy feeling in my stomach.  Patience, friends.  All we can do is wait.  At least we know for certain that our goal is "in the cards" and timing is now the only question.  Let's just be cautiously hopeful that the timing is sooner than the end of this year.

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 31 JAN

TNT:

BeachFrontJames:  Bank related intel says This coming Monday for the last of tier one rates to be paid, public RV Tuesday. This is solid source via WF banker

SirTitus: If public RV on Monday...release the numbers now and get the appointments made starting monday...make sense. Why wait....another day of not have billions is bad banking business

Roger:  i think it is interesting to read as many sources as possible. Seems to me they are all lining up with the same info. that is a good thing.

Debs :Did anyone catch the breaking news earlier on CNBC IMF stating immediate action needs to be taken….It was a verbal breaking news report that the IMF sees the need for immediate action to stop the downward spiral of the world economy I have looked for a link on it but last I looked it hadn't been updated

randyful : deb i missed that but i did hear them say markets COULD be reacting to urgent news this weekend

NESARA UPDATE: RV ANNOUNCED, 31 JAN

RV ANNOUNCED

RV RELEASE ANNOUNCED TONIGHT ON CNBC – MAINSTREAM MEDIA
Info came from 4 separate credible sources - link will be posted when available.

HOLDER IN CHARGE OF NSA

RUMOR – LAST NIGHT 1/29/14, OBAMA SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER PUTTING HOLDER IN CHARGE OF NSA.

BLUWOLF POST, 31 JAN

01/31/14 Bluwolf: We are within moments in seeing our prize possession take its valor. There will not be any lack of monies for all banks have covered all three tier factors and you will be dealt with exactly and at the same level as the tier before you.

Your lives and your world will change drastically as of today, abundance of wealth falls like snow from the heavens covering all the globe, many if not all who have been damping our world economy are now no more, government control is the new norm lobbyist seek into hiding, cabal wealth has no more power over we the people. Big pharma and all the rest will be standing down.

This International Release will appear as planned, if you pertain to a group you shall not have any problems. Wells Fargo is still the UST and Chinese Clearance House all who exchange there should not have any hassels whatsoever for they will be treated with respect and professionalism.

The lapse of these next two weeks will be the pinnacle point of this Global Reset being officialized in its entirety through the media

One thought for you… the reset already happened and the media is leaking it slowly. As the new awakening hits the souls of those including I who are part of our Lord Jehová's army I declare health and wealth to all in the land of our God, may no evil man dare to interfere ever again and may the positive power of My Savor Jesus reign forever more.

Elyon Shala Na'maste. Bluwolf