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Friday, January 3, 2014

TONY CC TODAY, PART. 1, 3 JAN

GOOD MORNING TNT
 
 
HAVE A SINUS CONDITION
DO THE BEST I CAN
 
MIGHT GO TO YOU EARLIER
SOME QUESTIONS
HERE WE GO
THIS IS THE SITUATION WE ARE IN
FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON
DC ISN'T HERE TODAY
 
BUT WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT
THEY ARE TRYING TO CLOSE ALL THE 
HOW TO SAY IT
NICELY
CLOSE THE HOLES OF INFO THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE SYSTEM AT THIS TIME
AND THEY THINK ITS TOO MUCH INFO ON THE BOARDS
BUT WHAT WE DID IS GOOD
LESS AND LESS 
 
TODAY IS JAN. 3, 2014,  10 ,  TNT
 
AND WHAT I WAS SAYING
IS CLOSE THE LEAKS IN THE SYSTEM
MEANS WE ARE GETTING EVER CLOSER
NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS
THOUGHT WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT THIS TODAY
THOUGHT WE'D BE IN VEGAS
CELEBRATING
AND HAVING A GOOD TIME
 
THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE RV IN IRAQ
IS ONE DEC.
AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DATE
IS 31 DEC.
WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE HISTORY BOOKS
WILL BE 31 DEC.
AND REASONS WE DON'T SEE IT
AND I'LL HAVE TO DECIDE DURING THE CONVERSATION
WHAT TO GIVE YOU OR NOT
 
BUT THE BIGGEST PART IS DEC. 31
AND WHY DON'T WE SEE IT
WHAT THEY DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN DC
IS 2 DIFF THINGS
AND THE REASON THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS 31 DEC.
IS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO RE DO THE CONTRACT DATES
THAT TOOK 10 YEARS TO PUT IN PLACE
 
AND THE REASON THAT THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH DOING IT
IS THAT SEVERAL COUNTRIES ACCEPTED THE RATE
TO MAKE IT INTERNATIONAL
THE US DIDN'T ACCEPT THE RATE
SEVERAL COUNTRIES DID
 
THE WTO IS COMPLETED, AUDIT COMPLETE
THE ANNOUNCEMENT JUST HASN'T BEEN MADE TO YOU
NOTHING NEW TO YOU KNOW
 
THINGS ARE BEING DONE
SO THE OFFICIAL ACTIVATION IN THE US - GOES ALONG
AND WE'LL SEE THE DOCUMENTS
 
SEVERAL COUNTRIES AT THE 3.44 RATE
AND DOING IT AT THEIR CBI'S
AND DOING IT FOR
WE CALLED HONG KONG OVER THE WEEKEND
IF THE RATE WAS LIVE,WE WERE GOING TO GO THERE
THE RATES ARE LIVE
FOR BIZ. PPL AND HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS
AND ONE OTHER THING
THEY COULD CASH THEM OUT, BUT NOT INDIVIDUALS
AS I SAY, THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT
SO THAT LETS US KNOW THAT CHINA IS DOING IT
 
GREAT BRITAIN , CANADA AND COUNTRIES CLOSE TO THE US
STILL ARE NOT TAKING IT LIVE
 
WHEN I WROTE THE BLAST YESTERDAY
AND HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND
YOU SHOULD
YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD A SUPER FANTASTIC MORNING
AND NEVER PLANNED THIS CALL
TH ATS THE PART I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN TALK
MAYBE WHY DC IS NOT HERE
 
WELL
HE'S IN A MEETING
DOC'S SIGNED, AND TYRING TO SEND CHRISTINE TO RENO AND NY
BUT EVERYONE IS SIGNED OFF ON THIS
MINOR SECURITY ISSUES LAST NIGHT
PPL WHO MADE SOME DECISIONS LAST NIGHT
PROLLY SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE
I USED TO BE A SCHOOL BUS DRIVER
IF IN DOUBT DON'T
ANY DOUBT AT ALL DON'T
BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT
BUT THINGS ARE ON A POSITIVE TRACK AS OF THIS MORNING
AND STILL THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE A GREAT GREAT WEEKEND

TONY CC TODAY, PART 2, 3 JAN

HERE IS THE ISSUE - I'M HOPING AN PRAYING ITS OVER TODAY - THAT'S MY VOTE - OR THIS WEEKEND
REGARDLESS
DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL LET ME TELL YOU THE DIFF. LEVELS
IT WON'T APPLY TO MOST OF YOU
OR YOU'LL FIND OUT DURING THE 20 MIN.
LOTS OF VARIATIONS TO THE NDA'S
NEW REQUIREMENTS & RESTRICTIONS
AND VARY STATE TO STATE
 
2 THINGS I'LL ASK YOU
DON'T GO INTO THE APPT - AND SAY TONY SAID
IT WON'T HELP YOU ONE BIT
DON'T SAY TONY SAID ANYTHING
AND THE OTHER THING
THE SAME - YOU GUYS THAT GET INFO FROM OTHER AGENCIES
AND THEY WERE YOU CONTACTS FOR YEARS
 
THE TONY SAYS…. DON'T
HOW DO YOU BENEFIT FROM THAT
THERE ARE DIFF. LEVELS OF INFO
THAT HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW YET
OR I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW
 
SORRY HAD TO GET IT OUT
 
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c-you never intend to do the call the next day, been for months, you are getting tire and sick
is there any validity to our powers to be working - mid month - in place
t- NO - never planned on doing this call - not that I didn't want to - this call wasn't happening - such a high level of readiness in the last 48 hours and the last 12 hours, except some ppl made a bad decision early this morning or we wouldn't be having this call and don't know how long to correct  that decision
 
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c- did rates fall or still holding
t- rates are still holding and going to be there, its part of the plan - raised the market rate from 5.86 to over 6.
t- your best option, don't know how to tell you without panic, who moved my cheese, it will move during the process,  if you got the worst of the worst its 6. and something
c- VNN 6 range in the contract rate
t- this morn. in Hong Kong the VNN was 1. 11  or something a little over a dollar
c-still feel we'll have a great weekend
t- much as I hate it, might have to do another call later this evening, sinus is killing me, and tell you this too, they didn't want me to do the call, but trying to restrict the flow of info, but not giving you everything, tells you something
c- hope to hear you tonight, even though you don't want to be here
 
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c- is CL still pushing out the rate live to other countries or is she waiting for the UST
t- OK, the rates are done and locked in, severe countries agreed to go International, there is a bunch of info, is today Monday, 
c- Friday
t- darn, lol
t- lots of things happened when I didn't give you the blow by blow, it gave them the time they needed to get things done, and came so close to the finish line - I would have done that months ago - they want to curb the info now, if that's what it takes, trying to do that too… my guys said, just do the call and give the info and don't do the questions
c- so is CL getting more countries to go w/ the rate
t- I'm am trying to be evasive, so there is a process going on and I don't want to explain the process, don't know what to tell you
c- the alleged investigations - another excuse
t- no, its getting done and they are negotiating and my understanding is that its coming to an end,  arrests made, retirements authorized and it is what it is, get of of jail free, the head of the UBS gold bullion was fired yesterday a part of this, Pres. and CEO of US Bank, misapplied funds, and believe me its ongoing right now
c- the rate became International on the 31st, is the 30 day running
t- it won't start running until its released to you and me
c- want to suggest that the UST can give you a new NDA so you can get info out to ppl during the process
t- first of all, I got a copy of the 20 page contract, and 2 NDAs already that shouldn't have come out that far, but they did and 13 versions out there right now, and know the highlights and there are things that I think you should know in advance, but its not my call…..
t- I know that they can't send it to all of you, diff. states have diff. versions and so you'll have to get it at the bank, and when we get the 800#s hope we can talk about it, so you are not blindsided
t- the NDA will apply to everyone that wants the contract rate and the contract rate should only be for, not judging, but for sophisticated investors or been here for a period of time and know the history and do with the money and understand the ramifications of signing the NDA and fully understand - those other 4.5 m. that haven't listened and have no clue and try to get that rate and read it - and not understand what they are doing and have their money taken back for doing something silly - actually a hindrance to them
c- will they be able to get the contract rate at the bank if they have a 25K note
t- no only at appts.
c- but at an apt. if they only have a 25 k note
t- yep they will
c- so even ppl with a ltd amt. of dinar should go to an appt. if they want the contract rate?
t- yep
 
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c- the Nettie pot
t- ty for all the suggestions
c- the only one that got into the site and after that it was already closed - I can give my family 800#s as well, 
t- absolutely
t- for anyone - give it to friends and family and relatives
t- when you give out the number, you have to explain the process and the NDA, if its some ppl that you want to get some money - its 6 per dinar, 
c- lot of ppl on the site and a newbie here and try not to listen to the others, but don't know Batman, and starting their own group and what is the benefit of that
t- don't know who the group person is, or getting paid and what I know is that the group in Reno under the Admiral is sanctioned by the US and a bunch of ppl that said they had groups and lost their dinar, and…. ( listen to the replay )
t- WF told me, that the group rate with them is the medium between the contract rate and the street rate, but all that changed along the way… but thanks to the group is what made them change
t- show me the restrictions when I sign up with your group, if I'm going into a group, that's what I want to know
t-what is my locked in rate, etc…
c- when I get my 800# - what am I part of - I'm part of your group - which is not a group
t- which number you call, the US or the China #, which ever you want, if the group pays you more, then goes w/ a group - they will ask your name, how much dinar you have and your email and zip code - I don't have a group
 
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c- when you go to cash out, can you cash out in hand and then come back w/ the reserves
t- they want all the money - every dime you can give them - they have a procedure for reserves set up - but not going to tell the ppl answering the calls till it goes live - i do know that the NDA SAYS -- RIGHT NOW --- THIS IS WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT ME TO DO THE CALL -- I DO KNOW THAT YOU WON'T BE ALLOWED TO USE THE MONEY THAT YOU GET FROM THE CONTRACT RATE TO PAY OFF YOUR RESERVES
c- even VNN
t- ANY MONEY YOU GET FROM THE CONTRACT RATE - YOU CAN'T USE IT TO PAY OFF THE RESERVES
c- I'll pay off my reserves from the reserve at Sterling w/ a contract rate, can I do that
T- I DON'T HAVE THE NDA IN FRONT OF ME - BUT DISCUSSED IT W/ PPL THAT DO, THERE ARE 13 VERSIONS, AND THERE IS ONE BANK PUTTING IN A POLICY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW FOR THE 2ND APPT.
c- my wife's birthday is today… RV on her birthday
2 DIFF. BANKS IN JORDAN WAS LETTING PPL GO IN AND CASH OUT, BUT YOUR WIFE COULD HAVE AS A JORDANIAN
c- her family has biz. there and talked to my brother in law last night and hope we do this here on her birthday
t- hoping I don't have to go to Hong Kong
c- rather fly to Hong Kong if I have to
 
 
PAM IS REALLY SICK TOO
CAN'T GET THE BOARD TO WORK
 
going to the next person
 
586
MICHIGAN
c- been waiting for 35 months on this and for 21 years before held back or cheated on all of those and lost my faith hope and confidence in all that are operating it.. and God allows his work at the end, and the loss of my mother, my dads health and my health and hope it turns out good
t- lot of ppl just like you and been in this a long time and gone thru it
c- 10-15 year plan to find and… land mines, and nuclear waste and not allowed to implement things in 20 years
t- think this will end up diff. for you,  we are so close to this guys,  and keep thinking today is Monday - but all we've heard is, it can't be stopped now, can't turn around, and again if what happened last night didn't happen, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now
c-my friend meets w/ Already Blessed father each week and listen to the calls and 
t- you know her
c- no, my friends know her father,  trying to do a good work
 
Pam- looking for another Michigan one
 
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c- tariff thing, charge you on the billing cycle and 30 days, but ? about the VNN, sounds like you need an appt. for the contract rate on that
t- for the contract rate, no appt. for the market rate
c- the same appt. will take both currency's
t- yes
c- odd question  5 K dinar note, misprint, but on the English side, right hand, printed over the print - ever see that or heard of it?
t- never looked at it that hard, no
t- go to the bank and ask them
t- if you don't think the bank or coin shop would know that, what makes you think I would lol
 
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c- ? about tiers, is this going the same way as the IQN, do we make appts. for the VNN do we let them know the reserves
t- under the new policy they want to know - so they know where to place you as a bank and the benefit will be as tiers
c- so based on how much we have and 
t- we should have cut off - you ask too much - they will assign you a bank based on what you have - someone w/ 5m is proly not being assigned to the same place as the person w/ 40M
t- everyone is going to get close to the same rate - close to - and there is a period of time on that - and they will use the tiers for other things and will tell you during the appt
c- will my rate be locked in once they know how much reserves i have
t- don't know, till they get the final briefing, 
t- LET ME TELL YOU THIS - SOME THINGS THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW TILL YOU WALK IN THE FRONT DOOR AND HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION RIGHT THEN - BENEFITS THEM - DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT - BE PREPARED AND KNOW YOU HAVE OPTIONS AND THOSE ON THE CALL I CARE ABOUT, DON'T KNOW THE OTHER 4 MILLION, AND THEY KNOW LESS THAN YOU KNOW AND THEY'LL GET THEM - AT THE LAST MIN - EVERYTHING I CAN TELL YOU  THAT WON'T CHANGE BETWEEN THEN AN THE TIME THAT YOU GET TO THE BANK - CAN'T CHANGE BUT THEY ACT LIKE THEY DON'T KNOW IT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE IT IN POSITION, BUT THERE WILL BE TOO MUCH CHAOS
c- bank procedures, you mentioned in the blast 
 
t- yeah, that's what we are talking about right now, be thoughtful and careful and how I try to make decisions, and know how to back myself down to know how to get there, and if it hits me blind, like you guys will get it, and do this and that, and be here 5 months down the road, is it logical….maybe say, let me read this and think about it for a minute and they might be pressuring you, but maybe have to give it serious thought, if you go to the appt. and don't do the exchange, you'll only get the market rate after that, and know that it might put more pressure on you, but giving you a heads up
 
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c- referenced the man that was on earlier… ty
 
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c- had reserves and they recently expired and if it goes thru, and I was to claim those reserves
t- how do you claim them if they expired
c- its only been a couple of days, would that work?
t- I don't know any exchanger that would do that
t- they are saying you can't go to an 800# and take the contract rate and pay off the reserves and get the contract rate again = and you can't pay the reserves off w/ the contract rate
PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS
T- HOPE NOT CONFUSES YOU MORE, NO BETTER WAIT TILL THE # COMES OUT - DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH AND THEN THEY SAY THEY HAVE TO FIX IT
c- my friends lost their reserves…
t- after reserves expire - don't think the exchangers let you get them, have to do new ones, not asking anyone to do a reserve, lets take away all the excuses
t- we'll talk about it after the #s are out
 
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c- puzzled on the NDA, we live in one state and plan to exchange in another state, do we have to sign 2 NDA's
t- I don't know and now you bought up something else
t- don't want them to think this is a problem and then they use this as an excuse to delay it and fix it… even now on this mornings call, lots of incompetence in DC -- ppl that shouldn't be authorized to do as far as a global event, 
c- if we are dealing w/ 2 currencies and we take the street rate from the VNN to pay off the dinar, will we get the street rate on all currencies
t- 2 diff. things
c- so we are not penalized by using one currency - so it won't affect the others value
t- my understanding is that one won't impact the other, as long as you don't use the contract rate to buy more dinar
to buy more dinar or PAY OFF RESERVES, YOU CAN'T USE THE CONTRACT RATE TO DO THOSE
c- so contract rate on VNN
t- so the contract rare on VNN is 6 and you won't get that till you go to your appt
and you can't use it to pay off your reserves
but if you were to go in and get the street rate
c- so if we use the street rate for the VNN to pay off the IQN
t- right
c- see you in Atlanta, some time next week
t- hope to be there tomorrow, but yeah, sometime next week,  if you have a way to pay off your reserves, most exchangers will let you pay off your reserves with a reserve and that's where it gets bottle necked, but if the UST says 5-7 days at the banks, how can one location pay all those ppl off the reserves at one time - think about it - everyone won't get their reserves at one time - be realistic - just not - no way that everyone will be able to pay off everyones reserves in 5-7 days - just be realistic
t- that's why they need an avenue for ppl - it will create chaos
 
ALRIGHT GUYS
CALL IT A DAY
PAM IS SICK AND HAS BEEN FOR A COUPLE DAYS
SHE HAS A COLD
AND ITS OK TO SEND HER GET WELLS
SHE LIVES BY THE LAKE
 
HOPING THAT THIS SITE WOULD BE GONE TODAY
AND WE'D MOVE TO THE OTHER SITE
AND UNFORTUNATELY IT STILL HAS TO BE PAID FOR
AND APPRECIATE ALL THE DONATIONS
WE HAVE A 100K PPL
AND 100 THAT PAY FOR THOSE PPL
AND DON'T UNDERSTAND IT
AND SOME GUY ON THE BOARDS SAID HE HAD 1000 PPL THAT SEND HIM 20
AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT
BUT WE APPRECIATE THOSE
HOPE WE AREN'T HERE ON MONDAY
BUT IF WE ARE
THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN
PAM RAY
 
PAM- THANK YOU FOR THE GET WELL WISHES
AND THANK EVERYONE FOR THE DONATIONS AND KEEP IT GOING
AND TONY HAS DONE AMAZING THINGS FOR US, HAPPY NEW YEAR
 
RAY
 
OK GUYS THIS IS IT, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU
DON'T BE SURPRISED IF I SEND OUT A BLAST
AND DON'T BE SURPRISED IF WE DO A CALL
DON[T' BE SURPRISED IF WE DON'T
OR DO BE
 
WITH THAT ENJOY THE DAY

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 3 JAN

1-3-2014   Intel Guru Nova   They must have a tariff law in place to become a member of the WTO.   A possible scenario is that the tariff law was enacted on Jan 2nd…but the financial structure was not open. The books for 2014 have not been opened yet, but with the tarrif law in place within a couple of days the financial system will be turned back on with a new rate...This is speculation based on the articles and what the CBI  GOE and WTO are saying and doing. They must tell the world what the new rate is or they cannot sell product to the world, or have trade, ect…I believe the CBI must show the new rate when they reopen. So many things hinge upon it and everything is pointing to it being released.   [post 3 of 3]

1-3-2014   Intel Guru Nova
   With the Tariff law enacted, the goods in Iraq must be repriced for the tariff.  If the rate is not revealed…it all becomes “Undone”.  The fact that the CBI did not transact business today and the ISX is closed is very telling. It is what we want to see.  IMO, the ISX must be down when the rate is changed because the valuation of the companies is in USD…trading takes place in IQD but the capital and valuation is in USD.  When the new rate comes out….the stocks, capital and corporate valuations must be reset to IQD for the new rate.  IMO, I do not believe the tariff can be enacted at 1166.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

1-3-2014   Intel Guru Nova
   I'd be very concerned and it would have been a “bad day today [Thursday]” if we have seen the tariff law implemented and the CBI holding an auction.  However that did NOT happen, which means that something really did “happen”!  The Tariff law went into effect today [Thursday] and the CBI did NOT hold an auction—The CBI did not transact any business today which means that’s something is changing, something is happening.  The Iraqi financial system was shut down and not transacting any business…IMO, the days are numbered how long they can continue to hide the rate. [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

1-3-2014   Newshound/Intel Guru Eagle1
   Reminding everybody about the Chap.7 agreement Shabibi signed to “Reinstate” the IQD…I feel it’s a Reinstatement and not a Revalue.  But, a deal may have been made with Kuwait to come out at $4.25 and Kuwait will RV the KWD to be a little higher...my sources opinion is he expects the IQD to come out within a few cents of Kuwaits KWD.  These are calculations based on the information in articles as well. [post 2 of 2]

1-3-2014   Newshound/Intel Guru Eagle1
   A friend at the WTO on the US Trade Delegation said that Iraq was inducted into the WTO on Sunday  but nothing will be released “publicly” until the currency reset goes live “shortly”.   Sources all agree that from what the CBI, BIS, WTO, IMF, GOI are saying it is very possible to see the new rate on Saturday/Sunday.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

1-3-2014   Intel Guru Delta
   [WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY IF THEY JUST ONLY DID ONE THING ON THE LIST THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A RATE?]  YES...BIG MISTAKE IF THEY DON'T CHANGE THE RATE, I WAS JUST WATCHING ON IRAQIA TV PEOPLE ARE UPSET ALREADY AT THE PORT OF BASRA, AND IT WAS THE FIRST DAY, SO IF THEY DON'T CHANGE THE RATE AND GIVE IRAQI POWER OF PURCHASE!!!   IT WILL BE A BIG PROBLEM ON THE WAY.

1-3-2013   Intel Guru TerryK
    I HAD FOUR SOURCES CALL ME YESTERDAY AND TO BE HONEST THEY WERE PRETTY HYPED.  WHAT IM BEING TOLD IS IT IS THE UST AND FEDS HOLDING THIS UP AS THEY ARE WAITING ON GOLD STANDARD THAT WAS TO COME INTO PLAY YESTERDAY.  DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DELAY IS NOW.

1-3-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
   WE ALSO KNOW THEY CAN'T SELL THE BONDS WITHOUT SOME VALUE PLACED ON THEM THAT IS BACKED BY EITHER THE IMF, WORLD BANK, OR UNITED NATIONS.   ...WITHOUT SOME AGENCY OR GOVERNMENT BACKING THEM,  ANYONE WOULD BE CRAZY TO INVEST IN THEM. THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS, ARE THE U N LEADERSHIP GOING TO PLACE IRAQ BACK UNDER SANCTIONS LIKE THEY SAID FOR NOT MEETING THEIR NEGOTIATED...DEADLINES THEY AGREED TO WHEN ASKING TO HAVE THE SANCTIONS LIFTED.   [post 2 of 2]

1-3-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
   WE DO KNOW THAT FOR A TARRIF TAX TO PRODUCE ANY CASH FLOW...THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A VALUE ON THE CURRENCY OR THE TAX WILL AMOUNT TO NEXT TO ZERO.  SAME IS ALSO TRUE FOR THE HCL LAW BEING IMPLEMENTED.  WITHOUT A VALUE ON THE CURRENCY THEY COULD NOT PAY THE PEOPLE THE 17% THEY ARE TO RECEIVE FROM OIL REVENUES.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

1-3-2014   Intel Guru Bluwolf
   Once we rv there is at least a 30 day exchange period, it has always been that way (for there are trillions around the world to be recollected)...