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Tuesday, September 30, 2014

KTFA CC NOTES, 30 SEPT

9-30-14 KTFA (Notes by BulldogFord65): Tuesday Night CC.

The first part is a Bible Study and the second part is Iraq/Dinar Intel.

https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=OTQCw/jqKIy

Approx. 103  Minutes long.

IQD update
• Please do not call Frank with questions about what other websites are saying

• Next week is a holiday in Iraq for one week, and in Frank’s opinion, he believes we will see the GOI either right before the holiday or right after; in Frank’s opinion, he believes we will see the ministers soon; in Frank’s opinion, he believes Abadi is being held back for a purpose

• The Kurds are being paid, and even though they say they are using bank loans, how can the banks have any liquidity on a program rate?

• The GOI will be out during the holiday, so they will not be talking, however that is an opportunity for the CBI to talk; watch and listen to the CBI

• The Finance Committee has been asking why the 000’s have not been lifted?

Because they are not in control

• The GOI is going on vacation on Saturday, Oct 4 and will return on Thursday, Oct 9 now, listen and watch for the CBI to talk while the GOI is out;

when the GOI returns, in Frank’s opinion they will proceed with the MR

• Abadi is working on reform of 27 laws, and these must be finished before we can see an IR; he has until the end of 2014 to accomplish this, but we will see when the GOI returns on Oct 9 how long he takes; some of these pertain to the Erbil agreement

• The budget is being audited now, and this is why we saw Barzani run to Baghdad; is the HCL being added to the budget?? To see the Kurds working with, agreeing with and cooperating with Baghdad is very telling, there has not been unity before, and now the Kurds are very happy and conciliatory with Baghdad, no fighting

• Headlines sound like a plan to vote on the budget after the GOI returns, however, articles also state that with or without the budget, the MR (Monetary Reform) will move forward
• Article that the Kurds will be paid with the advancement of the budget; all of things are good for our investment

• Who is in control of the MR? USA; who is making USA happy? The Kurds; who is in charge of the budget? Likely Kurds and Baghdad

• Article states that Abadi is waiting for financials to come to him, and also states that salaries will be paid before Eid; according to the COM, the payments to the Kurds is coming out of the 2014 budget, and the 2014 budget can only deal in IQD, they cannot use USD or other currency

• The disputes between the Kurds and Baghdad are settled in Frank’s opinion because he believes the Kurds have seen the budget and know it is very good for them

• On Sept 7, the GOI announced to the citizens that the new government was formed and seated, and it was announced in a legal way, and also told the UN so they could form a legal coalition to fight against ISIS and Daash in Syria

• The MR is white hot, and the holiday break is a way to cool it down to accomplish what needs to be finished

• M appears to have been silence, and ran to Babel to hide, his coup attempt was thwarted, and we have not heard from him since

• The advance opening of the budget to the Kurds is precursor to full opening and we’re seeing cracks in the wall of protection of the budget – insurgents are neutralized, road between Baghdad and Kirkut open, rations being shipped, etc – all that was brought forward last night

• Can the 2014 budget still contain a program rate of 1166? If it does, how could they be paying salaries?

• Chpt 7 has been lifted, USA has thousands of troops on the ground in Iraq, the banking system is reformed, the currency is being reformed, all is moving forward

• The USD is being manipulated and has reached .86 which makes it 1:1 with the IQD; yes it fluctuates, but is being held at .86; like the game of chess, there are strata of moves that lead to the end game, not possible to win in a single move, there are many complex moves to accomplish the end game, to position – manipulate -- the USD to the right value at the right time; 0.86 = “check,” just waiting on “check mate”

• Historically, when gold, gas and oil go up, the USD goes down; and when gold, gas and oil go down, the USD goes up; we are now we are seeing the opposite – gold, gas and oil are up and so is the dollar; it appears there is manipulation going on

• Frank played a recording from Delta: all good news in Iraq right now, the 2 remaining ministers (interior and defense) need to be named, 50/50 chance that we’ll see it before the holiday; Kurds look happy and building trust and confidence with Baghdad; finance committee, COM all asking why the 000 have not been deleted; in Delta’s opinion if we don’t see anything before the holiday, the second week of Oct after they come back from holiday will be very interesting

• Frank ended the call with prayer and Andy lifted the prayer with the shofar horn blast

EXOGEN UPDATE: GUESSES TO NEW PICTURE INTEL, 30 SEPT

9-30-14 Stage3Alpha: Guesses to NEW Picture Intel:G T: About Ready to be Seated!!!

RVs Being Hidden......And the Foxes Are in Place to pounce!!!

Make sure you have ALL PLANS READY (There planning a MAZE Of Options)!!! Watch for the "Money Traps"

Be Aware if all the free fall with the Markets In the Future

It Could look like Financial World War 3

Like Fights at the "OK Corral" (good vs bad......Rich vs NOT SO RICH)

We're On MINUTE BY MINUTE WATCH!!!

McFadden & Whitehead are CRANKIN' IT UP......AIN'T NO STOPPIN' US NOW!!!

We're On The Groove.

S3A CHAT: ZIMBABWE CURRENCY, 30 SEPT

9-30-14 Stage3Alpha: INTERESTING OBSERVATION # 1 FOR TONIGHT ZIMBABWE CURRENCY:
http://www.likeforex.com/currency-converter/zimbabwe-dollar-zwl_usd-us-dollar.htm/1
INTERESTING OBSERVATION # 2 FOR TONIGHT (ZIMBABWE CURRENCY):
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/

POPPY3 TIDBIT, 30 SEPT

Poppy3: THE NEXT 48 HOUR OR LESS SHOULD SHOW UP WHAT THEY HAVE COMPLETED AND IF ALL IS COMPLETE THEN THE RATE CHANGE SHOULD FOLLOW VERY QUICKLY AFTERWORDS.

LILY TIDBIT: HE IS EXCHANGING AT CHASE IN DALLAS, 30 SEPT

9-30-14 Lily: My son-in-law's friend called him yesterday (Monday) to tell him to bring two forms of ID and his list with amounts of certified checks to his appointment. 

He is exchanging at Chase in DALLAS, where he has no account. It is one of the exchange centers.

She told him the ones doing the exchanges have been through three training sessions and are expecting the exchanges to begin very shortly, so our family is in expectation and waiting patiently. This is one of the large Chase in Dallas. They are an exchange center. They were given a Delarue machine last spring for it.

GT UPDATE FROM S3A: MY CONTRACTOR FRIEND, 30 SEPT

Gt:I Just Got off the Phone with My Contractor Friend (2PM West Coast Time.....11PM Germany Time)
He's been told by his Iraqi Contact(s) theirs reports in a Specific Region(S).....Q Cards ARE LIVE W/REVALUED RATES!!!
He will call me back with more information once he receives it !!!!
HOPEFULLY MORE TO COME LATER TODAY!!!

IQD LAND BANK STORY CIRCULATING TODAY, 30 SEPT

  I posted earlier today but I will post again. My son in laws friend called him yesterday (Monday) to tell him to bring two forms of ID and his list with amounts of certified checks to his sppt. 

Saila wrote Part 2. He is exchanging at Chase in DALLAS Where he has no acct. it is one of the exchange centers 

 Part 3. She told him the ones doing the exchanges have been through three training sessions and are expecting the exchanges to begin very shortly,So our family is in expectation and waiting patiently.

WILDDUCK CHAT, 30 SEPT

9-30-14 WILDDUCK (Chat):

[ByGrace] Sho' is quiet in here.... lol

[WILDDUCK] THEN LETS MAKE SOME NOISE

[misskitty05] WILDDUCK hello and :bighug: where have you been?

[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 SITTING ON THE SIDE LINES GATHERING INFORMATION AND WATCHING HISTORY ROLL OUT IN REAL TIME

[misskitty05] WILDDUCK sure is taking a long time to roll lol

[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 WELL LIKE I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THERE IS NO GCR FOR DUMMIES BOOK DOWN AT BARNES AND NOBEL. THEY ONLY HAVE ONE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT.

REMEMBER THERE IS A WINNER AND A LOSER IN THIS STRUGGLE AND IF YOU LOSING YOU STILL WANT TO TRY AND STOP THEM FROM MAKING A TOUCH DOWN AS LONG AS POSSIBLE

[alohadinar] WILDDUCK Aloha, seems like we just might be getting close!

[misskitty05] WILDDUCK yes it seems that the defense has been working overtime!

[WILDDUCK] alohadinar THAT IS CORRECT, I BELIEVE WE ARE VERY CLOSE, REMEMBER YEARS BACK I SAID THIS WILL LIMP INTO VIEW... NOT A BIG TADAH

[misskitty05] I'm just hoping I'm going to see this in my lifetime roflmao
[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 WELL WE CAN ONLY HOPE YOUR SHIP COMES IN BEFORE YOUR PIER COLLAPES roflmao
[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 MY UNDERSTANDING NOW IS TO THE POINT OF GETTING ON BOARD FOR THE FINISH. GETS TO A TIPPING POINT WHERE ALL NEED TO GO, BIG NEWS TODAY YUAN TRADING WITH THE EURO. SO THE EU DOES NOT NEED TO USE DOLLARS THERE ANYMORE. THAT IS HUGE.
[misskitty05] WILDDUCK don't understand the yuan issue. Wasn't the EU always able to trade with China?
[spades] WildDuck so the accelerator on the dumping of the dollar begins huh?
[WILDDUCK] spades THAT IS CORRECT AND THAT SHOULD BE A HUGE INDICATOR THAT THERE IS PROGRESSION FOR THE TURN
[highhopes] WILDDUCK Do you think the TRN's are about to make an appearance so the GCR can show up soon?
[WILDDUCK] highhopes WELL THAT IS A GNARLY SUBJECT, IMO WE ARE ALL SET THERE JUST HIDING BEHIND THE VEIL. THE BASIL THREE WENT INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST
[highhopes] WILDDUCK Id like to take a pair of scissors to that d#$% Veil!!
misskitty05] highhopes : me too!!!
[dudenocoins] WILDDUCK The yuan will be a regional currency and will trade with other regional currencies ..... Soon to join the SDR basket.
[WILDDUCK] dudenocoins THEY HAVE THERE OWN BANK AND LOOK A LIKE IMF WHY DO THEY NEED SDR'S OR THE IMF
[dudenocoins] WILDDUCK That is my point - they are establishing the second IMF... There will be a third IMF
[WILDDUCK] dudenocoins IT IS GOING TO BE A BRAVE NEW WORLD FOR SURE
[highhopes] WILDDUCK If the Brics nations implement the GCR without the USA....Will we still be able to exchange at the street or international rate? IYO ? Some people are saying we US dinarians would be left out if that happened.
[WILDDUCK] highhopes AT THIS TIME I THINK WE HAVE PASSED THAT CRISIS POINT AND ALL ARE ON BOARD FOR THE BIG FINISH
[highhopes] WILDDUCK That’s great news- Thanks so much
[highhopes] WILDDUCK I couldnt beleive our Gov. would be that stupid...( well I could- but didnt want to) lol
[dudenocoins] WILDDUCK yes it will but it will take 5 to 10 years yet.. just can't change it all overnight....
[misskitty05] BigDog-OH so are we saying that before today all or most EU trading with China was done in dollars but now can be done directly?
[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 CORRECT
[misskitty05] WILDDUCK ok ... ty ... I didn't understand that point
[BigDog-OH] misskitty05 I think it opens up another option for them in trading
[WILDDUCK] misskitty05 THE RESERVE DOLLAR IS TOAST THE YUAN IS HEADED TO RESERVE STATUS FAST. IMO UNDER BASIL III MANY COUNTRIES WILL SETTLE DIRECT WITH EACH OTHER AND AVOID THE MIDDLE MAN AND ADD ON COSTS.
IT WAS A GOOD GIG FOR THE OWNERS OF THE DOLLAR. THOSE DAYS ARE BEHIND NOW AS WE HEAD INTO A NEW FUTURE OF TRADE AND THE WORLD CURRENCIES ARE EQUALIZED TO THERE TRUE VALUE. AKA GCR
[spades] Wild duck I concur. If this thing pops soon I will investing a portion in it.
[Duguid] WILDDUCK : So....." Any Second Now " ? Thank you !
WILDDUCK] Duguid I CONCUR WITH YOU
[WILDDUCK] Duguid EVEN A BLIND DOG CAN FIND THE FOOD DISH
[WILDDUCK] WELL TIME TO GO NOW, HAVE A GREAT DAY AND KNOW THAT THE EARTH ROTATES VERY FAST BUT YOU DO NOT FEEL IT, SO LIKE THE RV /GCR JUST BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SEE IT OR FEEL IT DOES NOT MEAN HUGE STRIDES ARE NOT TAKING PLACE.
IMO WE ARE VERY CLOSE AND YOU CAN TELL BY THE LACK OF REAL NEWS.
THE LACK OF LEAKS AND GROOVY STUFF TO CHEW ON SHOULD SPEAK VOLUMES TO YOU ABOUT HOW CLOSE TO THE FINISH LINE WE ARE.
REMEMBER THIS IS A WORLD EVENT NOT JUST IRAQ.
ALL THE PIECES HAVE TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. THERE IS ONLY ONE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT.
THERE IS NO DO OVER.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 30 SEPT

9-30-2014   Intel Guru DC   [via Already Blessed]   ...PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE GAZETTE IS PHYSICALLY LOCATED IN THE LAW LIBRARY IN BAGHDAD AND HAS NOT BEEN ONLINE FOR A FEW YEARS.   HE WAS SURPRISED AND CONFUSED AS TO HOW THEY COULD PUBLISH ASPECTS OF THIS WITHOUT THIS BEING AN RV.  HE THEN WENT TO THE CBI PEOPLE AND ASKED THEM HOW IT COULD BE PUBLISHED IN THE GAZETTE AND NOT HAVE A  RV…"IS THIS ACCURATE!” AND THEY SAID, “YES, IT IS ACCURATE BUT WE JUST HAVEN’T  DONE THE RV YET.”  IT WAS ALSO RUNNING ON ALL THEIR TV SHOWS.  [reference Guru DC post 9-29-2014]

9-30-2014   Newshound Guru Lojak   b  Once that vote is concluded positively, a whole chain of events will start.  The Kurds will then show up in Parliament and support Abadi for his choice of security ministers--because they have 60 votes, which will put Abadi in the drivers seat on any vote he needs.  And of course, Iraq doesnt have 4.5 billion laying around, they will need to quickly Rv the currency to pay not only the back salary, but they need to pay their own army, retirement salary, blah blah.  Abadi NEEDS the Kurds to get things done.   [post 2 of 2]

9-30-2014   Newshound Guru Lojak   ...let me explain the goings on, so some on here can be up to speed.  There are two Kurds on the Council of Ministers (the cabinet) that were voted on in Parliament --but actually have not been sworn in and havent participated in the cabinet activities as of yet.  The kurds want their money, as least a written assurance they will have it soon--then they will participate in the cabinet.  The articles yesterday suggesting that they had the support to get a large chunk of money ( some say 4.5 billion) in back salary were the start to what we need.  One assumes based on the one MP from Kurdistan that Abadi has the support to get this done in the Cabinet meeting today.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-30-2014   Intel Guru Frank26  [via BulldogFord65]  the budget is in the house and IMO, they still need to read it, and may take a couple of weeks to pass the budget, however we have seen oil tankers leave so perhaps they are already operating under the budget but it is not yet visible; perhaps in the next couple of weeks we will see more of the budget;  there may be a domino effect set off by the budget; many items depend on what is it...it’s very possible that the budget does not contain the program rate, which would explain why it’s being guarded so closely.  MR [Monetary Reform] is moving forward.  IMO, we may see the seated GOI soon.  10/1 is “super hot, brilliant hot” for seeing the GOI emerge and possibly begin to reveal some of the budget through 10/10; if the budget is not revealed by 10/10, we look to 19th – 20th all of 2014; these dates are time frame studies to watch the GOI, budget, laws, MR.

9-30-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23  Forget the budget...First they need to seat the Kurd ministers and as of now, Kurds request that Shaways to be moved from Finance Minister to Deputy PM and Zabari from Deputy PM to FM... such action takes a Parliament hearing...Abadi an Jabouri are discussing a special Parliament session which would seat the security ministers before Eid...And then the discussion if a quorum could be reached...Those expecting a RV this week will be disappointed once again...But 10/7 to 10/9 is a window to keep an eye on.

9-30-2014   Newshound/Intel  Eagle1   [via BulldogFord65]    IMO, everything is where we want it to be.

9-30-2014   Intel Guru Frank26   There is an internet rumor that the rate is in the Gazette – NO, it is not.  [the Gazette is a real law library of the judicial arm of the GOI, the real website did not have a rate published...]

9-30-2014   Intel Guru EXOGEN   October 1st we are looking for a number of things. 1. Bills to be paid  2. Approved Budget  3. The process of salaries in motion  4. LIVE RATE.

BLUEEYEDGODDESSS & MILLIONDAY TIDBIT, 30 SEPT

9-30-14 BlueEyedGoddess: If they RV on Oct 1, it could still take 72 hrs to get to the bank, if the private groups get to go first……..just my take, and probably wrong.

9-30-14 Millionday: THE RATE RIGHT NOW IS 1166 – THAT’S ALL. IT DOESNT MATTER IF 18 BACK ROOM MEETINGS GO ON AND THEY INVITE ALL THEIR FRIENDS -- THE ONLY ONE THAT CHANGES THE RATE IS CBI – PERIOD. UNDERSTAND IF THE RATE IS NOT ON CBI -- IT HAS NOT CHANGED -- NO IF ANDS OR BUTTS.

WE HAD NEWS THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A NEW SITE -- COULD IT BE ON THAT SITE? SEE I READ MINDS ---- NO WE WILL KNOW PERIOD.

THE RATE IS THE SAME BUT NOT THE SITUATION AT ALL -- EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED WHILE YOU WERE ASLEEP OR AT WORK.  EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED SO GET COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THIS NEWSTIME IS HISTORICAL.

AS I SAID LAST NIGHT --- AN EMERGENCY MEETING WILL HAPPEN BEFORE HOLIDAY – THE KURDS HAVE JOINED THE GOV AND HAVE 4 MORE POSITIONS -- THEY WANTED 5 – THE MEETING IS TO ANNOUNCE THE ENTIRE MINISTRY - THE BUDGET IS GOING TO PARL TOMORROW --- AND THEY FINISHED IT.

THE KURDS AND FEDERAL HAVE AGREED ON GOV AND THEY HAVE JOINED OFFICIALLY AND THE WAGES WILL BE THERE BEFORE HOLDIAYS WITHIN TWO DAYS THEY SAID.

YES THE KURDS ARE NOW PART OF THE UNIFIED GOV AND THEY AGREED ON OIL AND HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY WILL GET 8 MONTHS OF BACK PAY THAT WILL BEGIN WITHIN TWO DAYS.

I UNDERSTAND ---- THE REALITY RATE AND CORRECT VALUE FOR ALL OF THE STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK AGREEMENTS AND ALL MONEY MOVED SHOULD BE AT THE REALITY RATE OR THEY WILL WASTE WHAT THEY HAVE PRINTED AND IT ISNT CHEAP.

(Any news on the budget?) YES IT IS TO BE DONE OR AT LEAST BEFORE PARLIAMENT TOMORROW THEIR TIME.

THE TARIFFS ARE READY TO GO YES AND THE BASKET WITH ALL THE LAWS WE LOOKED AT HAD IN IT IF YOU REMEMBER THE VISAS FOR VISITORS – IT IS RECORDED IN THE GAZETTE SO THE TARRIFFS AND THE FREE PORTS ECT AND ALL CUSTOMS ARE READY.

THE GOVERNMENT IS JOINED WITH THE KURDS AND THE FEDERAL GOV AND THEY HAVE MOVED FORWARD AND AGREED WITH ALL OIL ISSUES AND ALSO THE KURDS AND MINISTERS WILL MEET IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO TO TELL THE LAST TWO MINISTERS AND ALL.

THE PAY TO THE KURDS WILL BE FOR TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS AND THE REST OF THE 8 MONTHS BACK PAY AFTER THE HOLIDAY.

THE BUDGET IS TOMORROW AND ABADI HAS CALLED FOR AN EMERGENCY MEETING FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE GOV ANNOUNCEMENT.

S3A CHAT UPDATE, 30 SEPT

Stage3Alpha:

TUESDAY INTEL UPDATE
  Posted by EXOGEN on September 30, 2014 at 5:25am

Gonna retire Good morning!  USD is at 86.00 right now!

BaNDiTo.RoX  Good morning guy's.. Now I'm going back to bed. 86.06

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/dxy

Davidachek
 > What number does it need to get to?

Sunshine62
 > Davidachek  86


Davidachek >  Thx Sunshine. I guess we're there then, eh?

Sunshine62 > Davidachek  Looks very excellent

BlueEyedGoddess
 If they RV on Oct 1, it could still take 72 hrs to get to the bank, if the private groups get to go first……..

just my take, and probably wrong.


Guesses to Picture Intel:

G T September 30, 2014 at 9:20am

Early Clues (I'm on the West Coast EXO....Let us Wake Up First ) LOL

Here we go......

USD Index Rising (Last Check $.86)

Abadi & Barzani are at the Negotiation Table (HCL).....Getting Paid

Follow The Gold & Oil Prices (Follow The Clues)

Parliament is Voting on The BUDGET TODAY/TONIGHT in Iraq!!!

Hippie Chick
 So they are voting on the budget today. Its 6:15 there. So they are either in process of the vote. OR have voted and we are awaiting word. IMHO

Vinman > Hippie Chick  Those guys work past midnight so I suspect they will be meeting all day.

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 30 SEPT

TNT:

Already Blessed :OKAY GUYS....I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH DC FOR A FEW MINUTES AND HE REITERATED SO THAT MIGHT HELP CLARIFY FOR OUR MEMBERS….AND PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE GAZETTE IS PHYSICALLY LOCATED IN THE LAW LIBRARY IN BAGHDAD AND HAS NOT BEEN ONLINE FOR A FEW YEARS.

Already Blessed: 
 AS DC SAID YESTERDAY, HE WAS SURPRISED AND CONFUSED AS TO HOW THEY COULD PUBLISH ASPECTS OF THIS WITHOUT THIS BEING AN RV.

HE THEN WENT TO THE CBI PEOPLE AND ASKED THEM HOW IT COULD BE PUBLISHED IN THE GAZETTE AND NOT HAVE A RV…”IS THIS ACCURATE!” AND THEY SAID, “YES, IT IS ACCURATE BUT WE JUST HAVEN’T  DONE THE RV YET.”

 IT WAS ALSO RUNNING ON ALL THEIR RV SHOWS.

Already Blessed :THAT WAS ALL ON THE CALL YESTERDAY BUT MAYBE RESTATING IT WILL HELP SOME?   

ALREADYBLESSED :
  TONY AND DC GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION…THEY EVEN ITEMIZED THE MULTIPLE VERIFICATIONS AND THEN OFFERED THEIR OPINIONS AND DEDUCTION OF WHAT THEIR CONCLUSIONS WOULD BE BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN INFORMATION THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD ENLIGHTEN US. IF YOU REQUIRE PROOF THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE RV AT WHICH TIME, NONE OF US WILL CARE ANYMORE.

DAZ:
 THE IRAQ GAZETTE IS AKIN TO THE US GOV FEDERAL REGISTER.

MARKZ TWEET, 30 SEPT

MarkZ Tweet@originalmarkz: Ok so the weekend wasn't what I had hoped for... Things were happening though and I am 'ok' with the progress.

EAGLE1 & FRANK26 TIDBIT, 30 SEPT

9-30-14 Eagle1: IMO, everything is where we want it to be. 


9-30-14 Frank26: There is an internet rumor that the rate is in the Gazette – NO, it is not. [The Gazette is a real law library of the judicial arm of the GOI, the real website did not have a rate published...]. 

DAVE SCHMIDT: Special Report and Follow Up, 30 SEPT

EXOGEN UPDATE: TUESDAY INTEL, 30 SEPT

SARAH MACCLUNE: Okay EXO...12,5,8,3,29,15....less than or equal to a 72 hour window, less than or equal to a 12 hour window or the winning lottery numbers for this evening?

VINMAN: 12 Hours!

RICK W: Ok, I'll give it a shot, since Vinman must be sleeping...lol. Don't shoot me if I'm way off base here.

Clues:

Less than or equal to 72 hours.

US dollar Index over $0.86 and rising....good sign.

Abadi and Barazani? Are back and forth bargaining on the HCL but are rising up?together, to unify? ( still friends clue) (that's a tough one.)

Look for oil and PM prices to flow one way (down) and not stop.

That's all I've got....

VINMAN: :-)  You're close!  It's 12 hrs.  And watch gold and oil prices collapse and the dollar index stay above .86.  Barzani is trading Abadi oil revenues for a seat at the table.  The GCR is incognito right now but can't be stopped


RICK W: Hey Vinman! Lol....wasn't trying to take over, honest! Lol

I gave it a shot anyway....

But Exo implied it wasn't 12 hours, when he stated "there's more than 1 number there", which is why I went with 72.

So there you have it.

Thanks Vman

VINMAN: Ah....well we will have to wait and see how many hours it turns out to be.  72 would be Thursday evening.

Sunshine62: Good morning Everyone! Hope you enjoyed our first live ONLINE chat. It was enjoyable for us and we desperately tried to answer as many questions as we could in that very short hour

If yours did not get answered, do not be disheartened. You will soon be wealthy and will hire your own team of professionals who will be available to you 24/7. Have a terrific Tuesday

John Owens:Hey does anyone know if the zim will exchange at the same time as thevnd and the iqn ?. I herd it might be delayed.

Sunshine62:
Yes it will be exchanged at the same time. We have not heard of any delay


Vinman: Kurds getting a seat at the table for sharing in oil revenue


EV LOCKE: Sunshine will the 10 trill zim note be exchangeable ? Only I have a few :-)

SUNCHINE62: EV, we have heard only the 50t and 100t. 
To be safe, you might want to think about grabbing one of those, if you don't have any. Just a suggestion

OZARK76 POST FROM TNT: I FOUND A SOURCE THAT MATCHES TONY'S REGARDING THE PUBLISHED RATES, 30 SEPT

OZARK76: I located this page... for what it is worth.
It is verbatim what Tony published in his Blast with the rates from the "Gazette".
http://tinyurl.com/ns8wsap

KTFA CC NOTES MONDAY NIGHT, 30 SEPT

IQD update

• Please do not call Frank with questions about what other websites are saying

• From Frank’s blue post: “M has bud” = Ministers have the budget; “Baz in Bag” = Barzani in Baghdad; “bud in house” = budget in House; this is Frank’s manner of communicating with his teams, and the short-hand is to get the communication out quickly, and also to guard it

• From My Ladies email, the budget is in the house, and in Frank’s opinion they still need to read it, and may take a couple of weeks to pass the budget, however we have seen oil tankers leave so perhaps they are already operating under the budget but it is not yet visible; in Frank’s opinion, perhaps in the next couple of weeks we will see more of the budget; the MR is moving forward

• In Frank’s opinion, he believes we may see the seated GOI soon


• In Frank’s opinion, there may be a domino effect set off by the budget;

many items depend on what is in the budget,

it’s very possible that the budget does not contain the program rate, which would explain why it’s being guarded so closely

• My Ladies did several beautiful compilations on the 9/28 thread that show a progression of the MR


• Frank gave new time study file numbers: 10-1-10-19-20-14; 10/1 is “super hot, brilliant hot” for seeing the GOI emerge and possibly begin to reveal some of the budget through 10/10; if the budget is not revealed by 10/10, we look to 19th – 20th all of 2014; these dates are time frame studies to watch the GOI, budget, laws, MR

• There is news of payments being made, and Rafidain and Rasheed banks are talking; the monetary reform of the IQD is restructuring the banking practices of Iraq; since the budget and MR need to be guarded closely,

if the banks are actually speaking, it would lead one to possibly conclude that the GOI is seated and operating, the budget is done and it very well financed; could it be well-financed at the program rate?


No; in Frank and his teams’ opinion, the budget is well-financed with oil, and that will likely cause the budget to be revealed

• There is an internet rumor that the rate is in the Gazette – NO, it is not

• It’s possible the Kurds went to Baghdad for an audit of the budget as they are getting set to pay people

• Frank asked that we watch Baghdad; just watch

• Yesterday the USD reached 85.8; the inverse of 85.8 is 1166, making the IQD 1:1 with the USD; it appears things are being manipulated as the USD is not truly at 85.8 in value; perhaps it was a successful test??

• Pay attention to other currencies; post 332 discusses the IDR being undervalued, post 333 discusses CNY to grow; watch for other currency indicators

• Post 338 by Walkingstick talks about doing the Marshall Plan in Iraq, as was done in Japan, Germany, SA, KW

• ITeam called with an update of M trying to cause problems, he was given the chance to be a VP, and he came out stating that no one wants Abadi to be PM; when some people got stirred up, he went on TV and called for the people to support the gov’t and cease protesting –

he created a crisis so that he could come in and make it appear that he solved the problem; this time the people see what he is doing and don’t want to play his game, and so M ran and left town; this may be the last time that M does this, he’s running out of options and may be dealt with;

the last time that M did this, Abadi came back from NYC and released 4 generals and released M’s son as a commander, weakening M’s power

• There are bad guys in Iraq that blame the USA for breeding bad guys – something to watch

• The price of oil and gas are being manipulated

• Eagle1’s message is that everything is where we want it to be, in his opinion


• ITeam statement: we cannot have an RV of the IQD without having an RI first

My Ladies joined the call at this point

• My Ladies refuted the internet guru claim that a rate appeared in the Gazette today – NO, it did not; the Gazette is a real law library of the judicial arm of the GOI, the real website did not have a rate published; there was a blog calling itself or having gazette in the name, it’s a blog, it’s not official, and has nothing to do with the GOI

• The road from Kirkut to Baghdad is now open, and there are many large trucks carrying rations in and out; it would not be wise to do this if ISIS and Daash were around, so one might infer that they are not a problem

• Salaries are to be paid before Eid, and claim it was financed by a bank loan, however, where did the bank get the liquidity?? My Ladies opinion is that the budget has been worked up since early this year, and they are operating on a “shadow rate” but that cannot go on for too long, and reality must be applied

• There were hundreds of thousands of pilgrims on the roads of Iraq for Mohammed’s birthday; again, if insurgents were a threat, how could they be on the road?

• The Kurds came to Baghdad yesterday, and when we look at the timing, Abadi’s in his first month, and has to wind up the budget, HCL, etc in the next 3 days before the holiday; the ministry of labor is paying 3 months-worth of salaries AND giving an increase in salary; how can this be happening at a program rate?

• There is a trade show in Iraq at the end of October and it was announced that they do not need a broker to to represent them; this suggests that they expect to be international by that time; the name of the show is “Iraqi Baghdad Trade Show and the World”

• My Ladies put a link to the Rasheed Bank on the forum discussing the Qi card, along with salary payment and check cashing through the card – how can it be done without liquidity??

• Frank asked all to be cautious where we get our information, if information is coming from another site, call them and ask them about it – do not call Frank; take all information, even KTFA information to God in prayer

• Frank ended the call with prayer, and Andy lifted the prayer with the shofar horn blast

Monday Night Conference Call.  Approx. 147  Minutes long.  The first part is Business Promo Night and the second part is Dinar/Iraq intel.

https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=OTQCw/jqYS

ALREADY BLESSED UPDATE, 30 SEPT

 Already Blessedw00t.gif wrote:JAYBIRD - FRANK26 TONIGHT - There is a trade show in Iraq at the end of October and it was announced that they do not need a broker to to represent them; this suggests that they expect to be international by that time; the name of the show is “Iraqi Baghdad Trade Show and the World”

Monday, September 29, 2014

TERRYK TIDBIT, 30 SEPT

9-30-14 TerryK: I'M HEARING THAT WE STAND A GREAT CHANCE AT THIS TOMORROW NIGHT...

BANKING NIGHT. THERE IS TALK OF A LOWER RATE.  THE SAME RATE THAT KUWAIT HAS CURRENTLY. THIS WILL FLUSH OUT TRILLIONS OF DINAR. 

KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN IRAQ AND KUWAIT. .50 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 3.50 PLUS

S3A CHAT : Q & A, 30 SEPT

STAGE3ALPHA LIVE Q & A CHAT WITH EXO, RENE, CARDEN, SUNSHINE62 & INCOGNITO

AGOGHG  Ok...so what is the real scoop with the 800 #'s...are they a trap?

Sunshine62 > AGOGHG The 800#s will certainly be a beautiful way to notify what is called Dinarland.  From these, you will be able to make an appointment with an exchange center (or bank)...and all will be done in an orderly fashion.We have never considered 800# to be a trap.

LVegas
 If we are given an 800#, are we then consider calling from a group? As sure the general public does not get these 800#'s. Do we need 800#'s for VND's, or when see Santa Suit, go to the bank?

Incognito > LVegas Dinarland is considered a group. If you have a 800 number, you are in the Dinarland group.


Jana What is the latest info on the ZIM, is it in or out , 6 or 9?

Incognito > Jana  The ZIM is still in and it cannot be lopped more than 6 zeros per law

Sunshine62
 > Jana The last we heard, the ZIM is in the basket with a 6 zero lop.
Keep your eye on this currency however.  Be sure you receive the correct rate/zeros lopped when you go to exchange

MrT So in the past, we discussed on a conference call exchanging into other currencies at the time of exchange. As per conversations with Sterling, at least with those that you can talk to, they said that they would only exchange into USD. As per your knowledge, do you believe that by going to WF, we will be able to exchange directly into an MCA?

EXOGEN >
 MrT You do not EXCHANGE into an MCA account. An MCA account is for portfolio diversification and leverage. Currency can be parked into an MCA and NOT exchanged. This is a leveraged hedge against USD devaluation , but interestingly the USD is increasing in value. The MCA accounts at many banks are now only on the Wealth side of the bank

Sunshine62
 > MrT It is indeed true that if you exchange with Sterling, they will only exchange into the USD....You will need to locate a bank that handles those accounts, as not all do have them.

T.O.T Millionday posted that Kurds where competing for and now have been given 4 seats.  Was this a delay for the announcement?

EXOGEN > T.O.T That is part of the plan. Keep in mind Kurdistan has all of the oil and the USA is opening up 3 military bases and the weapons are safe and secure in Kurdistan. Remember they have to have a government that represents all of the people

Kenpoist79 How should a multi currency account be setup?

Rene >
 Kenpoist79 Please check with your bank -- each bank has different specifications.  Ask YOUR banker the DIFFERENCE for YOU between Multi and Multiple currency accounts.  Ask for the reason why each account would be beneficial for you.

LVegas I do not own a lot of VND's, so want to make sure I get the best rates possible. Will I be able to get a contract rate? Would I need to sign an NDA? And do I have to leave a percentage in the bank (WF)?

EXOGEN
 > LVegas Keep in mind that banks are in the business of making money. At this point there are no definitive answers like will I do this or that as there are no rules. You have to structure your plan based on what you need to NET, not base it on RATES.
Sunshine62 > LVegas This is certainly a great question!  You will absolutely take your time to read the contract to see what your bank is using as a stipulation for giving you that rate.  I am sure it will vary.  We do not know at this time, if that would mean leaving a percentage in the bank.

FD Do you think rates will come out high and go down or reverse? Exchange some and wait for later?

Rene > FD Waiting would not be a great idea.  Remember,  there could be a chance of NEW currency and the currency in your hands 'could' become obsolete.  (We have NO idea when!  Market will drive rates,  but also remember--the GCR is for parity between ALL the worlds' currencies.  Don't let GREED ruin it for you.

Kenpoist79 How should a multi currency account be setup?

EXOGEN > Kenpoist79  Understand the difference in the 2 accounts.

1. Multi Currency Account

2. Multiple Currency Account

Each of these work differently

Condor Is October 1st a drop-dead back wall date for Iraq? Have heard this mentioned. What's your opinion, if you don't mind? Thanks !!!!

Sunshine62 >
 Condor Condor, we are quickly approaching that date and I would not be at all concerned should we NOT meet that.  There may be 1 or 2 loose ends they are tying up for OUR benefit (such as the banking side for instance). I only use that as an example as we do not forsee anything at this moment.

 Janet > Question...at time of exchange...can we take our foreign currency and with that buy other foreign currency... there fore avoiding taxes? Thanks...

Incognito >
 Janet No, it would be exchanged into USD.

Sylvia    Does anyone know anything about the generals64 group?

Rene > Sylvia  We understand it is now called The WF Group.  You will get an email with some notification of what to do......that is what we know at this time.

Sylvia   Rene will they be one of the groups to go first?

Sunshine62 > Sylvia I'm not Rene, but questions are coming fast and furious so we are grabbing them as fast as we can.  It was first thought the WF group would be "first" but at this point and time, we are not sure....

pebbles Thanks everyone for what you are doing, my question is will the CBI put the international rate up on Oct 1 so everyone can see it.

Sunshine62 > pebbles We highly doubt that.  There has always been the knowledge there are 2 sites, and there may be a time lapse before we see the new site actually show the international rate.

Steph:  What is the best way to find a great tax attorney? A team of advisers? If the system is truly changing, then how do we know if the  professionals will be knowledgeable on the new system?

EXOGEN > steph There are online resources you can use and make sure you have your list of Interview Questions structured and already know the answers you are looking for before you ask the questions

Sunshine62 > steph Great questions.  Personally, I would think it would come in the way of referrals from people you know and trust and already have a reputable team they are using....ASK questions!  Take your time and use only people you feel comfortable with.  Find out their track record from clients they already have.

efren  Based on your opinion rene and exo what date you think the rv will come to exchange to the banks?

Rene > efren we are hoping as soon as possible!!!!  How about YOU???

BlueEyedGoddess Is it even remotely possible that this is all an elaborate scheme to sell currency that is never going to be worth more than we paid for it, making only the currency dealers wealthy?

EXOGEN >
 BlueEyedGoddess  NO

Osso
 Exo what are the chances of an RV in the next 48hrs?

EXOGEN >
 Osso We are looking for this to happen sooner than later

Edward are you ever going to do a live conference call with intel?

EXOGEN >
 Edward yes

Sunshine62 >
 Edward Not the same type of call that you are hearing from the other gurus.  At this time, the next conference call will be immediately after you see the full santa suit here on this site indicating that it is time to go to the banks

AJM0603
 Hello Exo & Mods: are you still hearing a 6 zero lop on the Zim?
Also, do you think in your gut that this RV will be announced no later than Oct 1st?
Thks!

EXOGEN > AJM0603 Yes we are hearing 6 zero lop on the ZIM. October 1st we are looking for a number of things.

1. Bills to be paid

2. Approved Budget

3. The process of salaries in motion

4. LIVE RATE

Note: Keep in mind the CBI is an Independent body like the Federal Reserve

Springs Is there any confirmed groups cashing out right now?
Rene > Springs not to our knowledge
Philip
 is there a problem putting money in the banks knowing that they have a derrative problem
Sunshine62
 > Philip I would certainly give that some long, hard consideration!  Why not move it into a bank that has no or low derivatives so that your money is safe?
LVegas Do we know yet if #1) have to pay fee to the bank to do our exchange? #2) Pay a Capital Gains tax, whether short-term or long-term? #3) Pay high Federal Tax on our exchange? And rumor was out there all we had was a possible 14% exchange fee/exchange tax and that was it.


Sunshine62 > LVegas #1.  Depends on the rate/contract you accept and what may be attached to that.

#2.  Do not know, be sure to consult a tax attorney immediately after exchange

#3.  That is still a rumor

jumping4joy can you explain the wealth side of banking

Sunshine62
 > jumping4joy There is the public side (tellers) and the wealth side and Private side of the bank

You definately want to build a relationship with the wealth managers and private bankers in your bank as each may be able to assist you.

They are also accustomed to dealing with wealthy clients and what is required for accounts, perks, etc. etc.

Mark Everyone speaks of WF Bank... What about other banks to exchange...How about BBVA Compass????
Will different banks offer different rates??
How would the bank know that we are part of the S3A group??

EXOGEN > Mark You need to interview your banks based on things like derivatives exposure, products and services, rating and rankings

Margaret Hello everyone….I'm so glad to get a response from my question.
What do you think the VNDONG will reval at, do you assume or know if
this will actually take place at the same time as the Dinar reval.
Now that all the smoke and mirrors has been exposed, why are we still playing this waiting game?

Sunshine62 > Margaret The Dinar and Dong will reval at the same time.  We are hearing rates as high as 2+ but we will not ever be sure until we actually see the live rates.

Adanais Do you expect American and Canadian Banks to exchange at the same time?

Incognito > Adanais Each country will strategize and come up with the best plan for their banks and people.

Bold n Courageous Will the Zim be just as exchangeable as the dong and dinar at the exchange centers or could there be complications?

Sunshine62 > Bold n Courageous We are hearing that WF will be exchanging the ZIM, and possibly Chase.  There will not be complications at all...and it is even possible that all the BIG4 will exchange the ZIM.

tweetabird do you think that the report in the Gazette regarding rate being $3.58 is real?

Carden > tweetabird The "Gazette blog" is already in question. The debate continues...

steph I know there is much misinformation out there. How much do we need to worry about the USD devaluing? I know I want to do a MCA, but how do I know what currencies to do? I want stable currencies. US will not be home base 100% of the time.

Rene >
 steph There will be other choices, (EXO has showed you many on the site). please note we are NOT investment professionals so it is best to do your homework and be conservative until the financial reforms shake out.

steph > Rene SYes I understand you are not investment professionals :) and thank you for all you do. So we shouldn't be concerned about a collapse immediately and just take our time to invest wisely? Again, it's hard because it's hard to know what is out there to scare us and what is out there that is truth. It isn't like we have anything to reflect on. Thank you again!

Carden > steph GLOBAL CURRENCY REFORMATION HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.... that's why every answer anyone gives anywhere can change in a second. the only "REAL SOLID INTEL" will come once the GCR/RV finally occurs and the rules are made known.

Jana Can we use foreign banks that have branches here in the US to do exchanges at?

Sunshine62 > Jana Not all banks will be exchanging the dinar dong, zim, and rupiah.  This is why we suggest NOT calling the banks (as most banks are saying NO we are NOT)....and with the 800# you will be directed to banks who are participating in this currency exchange.

gum leaf Is it important at exchange to say VNN or VND?

Rene > gum leaf We hear it is important,  you have that knowledge -- might as well use it!

gg4 When it comes to paying off my bills, is it best to get cashiers checks made out to each payee requiring the checks to be mailed or can I just get a lump sum check amount to deposit into my regular household checking acct and pay my bills the way I normally have via online banking. Is there a paper trail needed or do I need to keep my checks under 10K. Thank you for your time and effort.

Sunshine62 > gg4 It seems to be that would be your preference, and also the manner in which you want to pay off your creditors....We highly discourage having a huge amount in the account you are using online banking so please consider that as well.  Keep you online account as a "working account" and not a "holding account"    You would not have to keep your checks under 10K..

J. L. Glover Is it true that the people who I gave 1,000, 10,000 & 25,000 notes (& gift letter) ONLY get the street or international rate? NO chance of a contract rate?Do they need to call the 1-800 # or can they just walk into any bank with their one or two notes?

Sunshine62 > J. L. GloverNo, they are free to exchange at whatever rate they desire, just like you. THey may also use the 800#....this is more advisable than just walking into a bank as you will not be using the public side of the bank, and neither will they. (as in tellers)

Edward does October 1,have a big significance to this event?

Incognito > Edward October 1 is the beginning of the fiscal year for most countries

Adanais Is publishing the rate in the Official Iraki Gazette means that we could go to the bank and ask for exchange at that rate?

Sunshine62 > That is certainly not OUR signal at all.  We are looking for live rates from different directions and the Official Iraqi Gazette, is just that - for Iraq only.

Robert L.  How soon after RV do we go to the bank for Dong?    Still hearing 2 plus for rate?

Incognito > Robert You will exchange all currencies at the same time

EXOGEN > Robert Should take place simultaneously, unless other plan executed

Ron Burgundy Can the USA be bypassed?   Can they keep a US citizen from exchanging?

EXOGEN > Ron Burgundy Yes the USA can be bypassed.Yes there are ways to block rates from showing in the USA

dinardiva EXO-- Something great happened yesterday that brought us closer can you tell us what that was?

EXOGEN > dinardiva The World Bank did what they needed to do

Olewiseone > EXOGEN GREAT! What did they do???

EXOGEN >
 Olewiseone executed